they claim they rework guns for realisn yet for the mp7, which was specifically designed to have deep piercing ammunition, gets its penetration reduced
The funniest part about this update is that StyLis devs are "all about realism", however : Saiga-12 Auto Conversion : 500 rpm CLOSED BOLT! (more accuracy, less rpm) USAS-12 (Gun designed specifically for full auto fire) : 450 rpm OPEN BOLT! (more rpm, less accuracy)
The small stuff like assist count as kill thing should have been added like 6 years ago and instead of pushing huge changes they should instead have all updates.
@@zoingusbloingus3defend another fucking company, stylis doesnt care about you unless you fit their perfect picture of a retard sitting in the back of the map with an lmg larping as if its tarkov
@@zoingusbloingus3yup… but they do a horrible job at balancing, when they need something they nerf it into the ground. Is that balanced if it’s so bad it’s unusable all the time? Or they’ll just barely need it so it’s still really good. That’s NOT balancing
Big brain Stylis moment thinking that the AK12BR is an LMG now, and not a battle rifle. 👏 Seriously, what are you thinking?! Stop changing guns for realism. The AK12BR is NOT a real gun, stop trying to make it what it isn't. Also the Saiga-12 nerfs could be seen as justified because it was hands-down the best shotgun in the game, but at the same time, not really since it's now just a worse USAS-12 (which was arguably the worst shotgun before).
@@michael_gaseosa Yeah, Spas is cracked, but it's also really high ranked, so it's a lot harder to be mad about someone using it than some random shitter saving credits from rank 0-25 and pre-buying the Saiga.
These changes are way too significant. There is no reason to change everything about a gun when you want to nerf it. The saiga and the g18c nerf does anger me. I am excited to see what the rework of the AK12BR will look like though. :)
9:24 "you can no longer run the intervention with marksman kit without having horrible fire rate" uhhh you're forgetting that the intervention already shoots at 33 rpm with the marksman kit instead of 45 like it should because the devs dont care about fixing it (yet they care enough to nerf the gun 👍)
On October 10 I made a year without playing PF (rank 154), and I expected to see so much more! Not in terms of quantity, but of quality. They changed so many things that didn't need a single change...
Strider yelling out about changes for the sake of realism ruining the game while simultaneously complaining how the AP changes "don't make any sense" is peak hypocrisy lol. It's obvious that they're trying to balance AP and HP around making them do opposite effects on your multipliers, which I think makes perfect sense considering they've been hovering over "kinda-opposites-but-not-exactly" for so long. So I'm glad they're finally just full sending it on that design.
This is true, but HP head multi should've been left alone, as it was the only common ammo type to provide a head multi. The damage ranges not being changed by HP isn't a big deal, but the head multi was seriously viable.
@@cloudy1502 That much is understandable. I think it's fair to not be happy when things are made worse for no reason whatsoever, and that HP was perfectly fine where it already was; I'm just mostly pointing out Strider's constant hypocrisy and whining over trivial things that ultimately don't matter.
The problem with the game is that the devs want to change the game as it is, the problem is, this game has been around now for almost 10 years, if they wanted to make fundamental changes like they keep trying to make, they shouldve done so 7, 6, even 5 years ago, i cant even say this is the same game it was 2 years ago, and im not sure if thats for better or worse
While your criticism is valid, I am also tired of seeing people in all games go like “oh game so bad now” I just get tired of unconstructive negativity repeated over and over and over again (it bothers me)
The 762 on the aug a2 having a torso multi was one of the main reasons it was so good. 4 hit kill all ranges with little to bo recoil at 750 RPM is quite powerful. Glad it's getting balanced.
It was already bad in stock form imo, game doesn’t want register my hits and does minimal damage when too far away which is not so far Spas-12 is top tier shotgun
I feel ya. I litteraly just got the saiga not even 3 days ago, got it all kitted out from 2 VERY lucky unboxes, and now all that shit is worthless. A shell of what it is. Like fucking thanks, i couldve had around 5k in credits but now i have this gutted weapon
Horrible update full stop. These gun changes are ridiculous. Why the hell are they stomping fan favourite guns into the ground for? If you want to neef the gun, sure, need the gun. Don't outright make it unusable. Goodbye saiga and goodbye g18c. Devs are getting dumb
The M16A1 firing like that would be cool, especially cause it technically can do that if they really wanna go the “realism” route, cause it’d be the same system as the M231. (I believe it’s called FPW?)
the ak12br class change is quite literally the most baffling change i think ive ever seen in the history of the game's updates. it's not like there's an oversaturated amount of battle rifles either. and you can't claim realism for a gun that is entirely fictional
I feel kinda bad for the AUG A2 7.62mm nerf but that shi was hella broken, since discoverd how broken it was i farmed like 7k kill on it on about 6 months lol (im a casual player and got a decent level on shooter games) so you would imagine
I quit phantom forces after the september update but I keep watching your videos to see if stylis grows some wrinkles on that smooth brain of theirs and it just keeps getting worse.
The one main thing they need to fix or remove is the so called aim assist for controller bring back thr old controller system made gameplay alot better
Use this very good low recoil setup in the Test place: AK-9: Coyote Sight ARS Suppressor Hera CQR Grip Green Laser Armor Piercing It's a 3 shot kill to almost 100 studs and other than that 4 shot kill, and has a strong headshot multiplier.
Definitely add the 1200 rpm Ramp up as a separate attachment, if they’re trying to be more realistic, the M16A1 shouldn’t be able to ramp up by default
in real life the m16 actually would ramp up as it fired, its because of the direct impingement system for the gun, as well as the ammo type selected back in vietnam
I really don’t think stylis understands how ballistics work. For realisms sake, hollow point should buff your damage, Multis, and should maybe MAYBE increase min damage range. Hollow point should have 0 pen, loads of damage, and good Multis. Armour piercing should have loads of pen on most guns, lower your damage and lower your Multis because of over penetration. Stylis says the armour in the character models does nothing, so why does AP not reduce damage and Multis? As for the other changes I think overall interesting and somewhat realistic, but I am so god damn happy to see assist kills FINALLY count for weapon kills. I have been wanting this change since 2017.
Listen I get nerfing the saiga 12 was a great idea, even I mained it at one point. But the fact that they made it almost downright awful is INSANE. Going back to the E Gun guys wish me luck
Changing things for "realism" while nerfing the MP7's penetration (it's literally made to penetrate armour btw) and overnerfing things is wild, it was better than back when everything was getting nerfed and all the assault rifles were the same thing but damn bro calm down
if we want this game to be truly realistic, i have a small list of changes: ak107 no recoil mp7 p90 and pp2k need to have 2 studs of pen (p90 maybe 2.3) all shotguns have no spread until maybe 100 studs all full auto guns aside from ak107 109 the pdw category and the mgv need to have the most atrocious recoil ever all lmgs need to implement the ntw bipod mechanic most of the ar-15 family guns need a ramp up boxy buster damage nerf to 1 to body and 2 headshot gun jamming needs to be added remove all movement tech entirely add artillery drone strikes, airstrikes and naval and air combat add a more dramatic suppression effect all secondaries have spread all .50 cals lower velocity all 9mm guns lower velocity saiga 12 full auto should be around 750 rpm spotting should be removed change the player models to be more realistic depictions of people all guns should 1 shot head bleed mechanic should be added movement speed should be nerfed add raytracing to every map delete all melees that wouldnt exist irl (chosen one, noobslayer etc)
bro. The m16a1 is my favorite rifle and it’s alright for mid range. Why did they make the fire rate so high? How am I supposed to get decent ranged kills with it now? I hope you’re right on this being a mistake since it also would make it stupid op in cqc.
All this complaining in the comments about wanting the old AK12BR meanwhile in the post in the stylis discord at the end THEY LITERALLY SAY "And for anyone missing the old AK-12BR before the recent reworks or the current 12.7x55 conversion, we have a plan for you too. So please give us a bit of time and patience there." like can you people not look at this stuff yourself? and either way im personally kinda interested to see how this upcoming ak12br and svk12 thing is gonna play out
AK12BR rework sounds kind of stupid. I think the whole idea of pursuing realism in every single gun is kinda stupid especially since the rework is basically just a new gun (sounds like the AK109 with 5.56 rn but with a drum mag). I feel like they could have just give the RPK12 a conversion and that would be better than just removing the AK12BR. Im not the biggest fan of these fake guns (especially since there are so many real guns that should be added COUGH M1 GARAND COUGH) but this change just seems questionable. Like removing the entire identity of the weapon for the sake of realism (RIP my beautiful MG3) at the expense of having a unique and fun gun just feels like poor game design. Phantom Forces is not going to be fully realistic in everything (otherwise half the movement mechanics wouldn't exist, granted Stylis has tried to kill those as well), so don't try to remove fun weapons and shit from the game for realism's sake.
SMASH LIKE! COMMENT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THESE CHANGES! is the saiga 12 bad now? should the m16a1 stay like this?
they should revert 380 acp for rama into 10 round magazine but higher damage
So whats the gun thats good now after this update?
they claim they rework guns for realisn yet for the mp7, which was specifically designed to have deep piercing ammunition, gets its penetration reduced
I cant imagine worring about realism in a game where players run at mach10 and double jump and snap aim like they have aimbot
@@mq-r3apz291also do wonder weapons ingame exist IRL? 😂
@@mq-r3apz291realism in LEGO GAME
@@trongnghiaphi2957the ak12br, ak12u, ak12c don't even exist irl
if anything, realism it self is unfair lol
Nerfing Super AP is so random if anything it should probably be buffed
i agree
i needed a buff so this is incredibly confusing why they wanted to nerf it more
Stylis doing a smooth brain move making the ak12br more "realistic" in a game you can get instakilled by a literal nerf gun
The funniest part about this update is that StyLis devs are "all about realism", however :
Saiga-12 Auto Conversion :
500 rpm
CLOSED BOLT! (more accuracy, less rpm)
USAS-12 (Gun designed specifically for full auto fire) :
450 rpm
OPEN BOLT! (more rpm, less accuracy)
so thats what they done to my boy beowulf
They made the Saiga less fun anymore..
The small stuff like assist count as kill thing should have been added like 6 years ago and instead of pushing huge changes they should instead have all updates.
The biggest problem with this game is that they Nerf things in like six different ways at once, do them one or two at a time if needed
so true, if they did smaller buffs and nerfs they'd be able to more easily gauge what is a good move and what isn't
theyre called balances not nerfs
@@zoingusbloingus3 same thing with stylis
@@zoingusbloingus3defend another fucking company, stylis doesnt care about you unless you fit their perfect picture of a retard sitting in the back of the map with an lmg larping as if its tarkov
@@zoingusbloingus3yup… but they do a horrible job at balancing, when they need something they nerf it into the ground. Is that balanced if it’s so bad it’s unusable all the time? Or they’ll just barely need it so it’s still really good. That’s NOT balancing
classic Stylis, "one step forward, five steps back"
more like 15 steps back
Big brain Stylis moment thinking that the AK12BR is an LMG now, and not a battle rifle. 👏
Seriously, what are you thinking?! Stop changing guns for realism. The AK12BR is NOT a real gun, stop trying to make it what it isn't.
Also the Saiga-12 nerfs could be seen as justified because it was hands-down the best shotgun in the game, but at the same time, not really since it's now just a worse USAS-12 (which was arguably the worst shotgun before).
the spas was better than the saiga cuz it could use flechette with no downsides
@@michael_gaseosa Yeah, Spas is cracked, but it's also really high ranked, so it's a lot harder to be mad about someone using it than some random shitter saving credits from rank 0-25 and pre-buying the Saiga.
the ak12br is literally not a real gun they can do whatever they want with it
doesnt BR stand for battle rifle???
@@danishdude_ “BR” stands for “Balanced Recoil”
8 years of balancing methods stagnation
These changes are way too significant. There is no reason to change everything about a gun when you want to nerf it. The saiga and the g18c nerf does anger me. I am excited to see what the rework of the AK12BR will look like though. :)
9:24 "you can no longer run the intervention with marksman kit without having horrible fire rate"
uhhh you're forgetting that the intervention already shoots at 33 rpm with the marksman kit instead of 45 like it should because the devs dont care about fixing it (yet they care enough to nerf the gun 👍)
yeah it probably didnt even change lol
assist count as kill not counting as a kill is the most goofy ah thing in pf i swear
On October 10 I made a year without playing PF (rank 154), and I expected to see so much more! Not in terms of quantity, but of quality. They changed so many things that didn't need a single change...
2:33 aight.. time to return back to sangvis AR raifu *(throws AUG A2 7.62 Conv Meta gun)*
Strider yelling out about changes for the sake of realism ruining the game while simultaneously complaining how the AP changes "don't make any sense" is peak hypocrisy lol.
It's obvious that they're trying to balance AP and HP around making them do opposite effects on your multipliers, which I think makes perfect sense considering they've been hovering over "kinda-opposites-but-not-exactly" for so long. So I'm glad they're finally just full sending it on that design.
This is true, but HP head multi should've been left alone, as it was the only common ammo type to provide a head multi. The damage ranges not being changed by HP isn't a big deal, but the head multi was seriously viable.
@@cloudy1502 That much is understandable. I think it's fair to not be happy when things are made worse for no reason whatsoever, and that HP was perfectly fine where it already was; I'm just mostly pointing out Strider's constant hypocrisy and whining over trivial things that ultimately don't matter.
Strider: ***demolishing ppl with the nerfed saiga*** yeah this gun is the worst shotgun in the game
why defend stylis? They fucking suck and dont care about a single player unless theyre buddy buddy with lito
honestly ap should just have a straight damage nerf but make your penetration go up by around 250% or so
The problem with the game is that the devs want to change the game as it is, the problem is, this game has been around now for almost 10 years, if they wanted to make fundamental changes like they keep trying to make, they shouldve done so 7, 6, even 5 years ago, i cant even say this is the same game it was 2 years ago, and im not sure if thats for better or worse
5:28 Bro got obliterated, REDUCED TO ATOMS, not even atoms... QUARKS.
I feel like phantom forces is just going the wrong direction... Man, I miss the old days.
While your criticism is valid, I am also tired of seeing people in all games go like “oh game so bad now” I just get tired of unconstructive negativity repeated over and over and over again (it bothers me)
@@grand_nic7686 would you consider bf2042 a good game?
@@grand_nic7686me too man its so goddamn annoying 😊
the af2011-a1 has more torso damage than headshot damage with armour piercing. WHAT!?
The 762 on the aug a2 having a torso multi was one of the main reasons it was so good. 4 hit kill all ranges with little to bo recoil at 750 RPM is quite powerful. Glad it's getting balanced.
Finally an m16a1 update :D one of my favourite weapon
i hate the hp nerf it was truly unnecessary i never saw anyone complain about that
So wait. They are removing the m16a1 ramp up? The one thing that made it uniqe.
Bruuuuhhh.
Hopefully it stays as an ammo type.
I hate how they just completely killed saiga 12 man
My first 1000 kill weapon holy shit
It was already bad in stock form imo, game doesn’t want register my hits and does minimal damage when too far away which is not so far
Spas-12 is top tier shotgun
DESERVED
Everytime I grind a gun it gets nerfed 1 weeks later LMAO
I feel ya. I litteraly just got the saiga not even 3 days ago, got it all kitted out from 2 VERY lucky unboxes, and now all that shit is worthless. A shell of what it is. Like fucking thanks, i couldve had around 5k in credits but now i have this gutted weapon
we get the intervention remod but at what cost 😔(that massive decrease in rpm is so annoying)
Horrible update full stop. These gun changes are ridiculous. Why the hell are they stomping fan favourite guns into the ground for? If you want to neef the gun, sure, need the gun. Don't outright make it unusable. Goodbye saiga and goodbye g18c. Devs are getting dumb
unusable is a strong strong word😭
You wouldnt notice a thing
@@Terrek_ new saiga really does feel unusable tbh
Yea why the g18 is was perfect to run with my snipers
o7 Saiga Birdshot meta which makes this gun very fun to use💀
my killcount will feinally go up
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The M16A1 firing like that would be cool, especially cause it technically can do that if they really wanna go the “realism” route, cause it’d be the same system as the M231. (I believe it’s called FPW?)
yeah firing port weapon
Assist count as kill counted for quests I always wondered why it wasn’t for attachments
Double yellow laser actually works very well with rpk-74
I love like how you said th3y cant nerf one thing at a time. EVERYTIME they nerf a gun, it will be like 5 nerfs while receiving 1 buff
1:00 i thought the entire purpose of the AK12*BR* was to be a fuckin battle rifle? Why do we need another RPK12?
BR as in Balanced Recoil, not battle rifle
@@Terrek_ ok
The SVK-12 was in the game in like 2015
the ak12br class change is quite literally the most baffling change i think ive ever seen in the history of the game's updates. it's not like there's an oversaturated amount of battle rifles either. and you can't claim realism for a gun that is entirely fictional
1500 rpm M16A1? Very realistic
I feel kinda bad for the AUG A2 7.62mm nerf but that shi was hella broken, since discoverd how broken it was i farmed like 7k kill on it on about 6 months lol (im a casual player and got a decent level on shooter games) so you would imagine
they need to both buff and nerf guns at the same time to actually balance the game they cant just keep gutting guns because people do good with them
i miss my old ak12br with no camera shake and burst
Bro just alt aim with a VCOG 6x on all snipers, gives free marksman kit. Its particularly good with almost all the bolt action sniper rifles.
They made lasers visible too
I only want my k1a to get its 40 round mag back when it gets eqpd with remington...
I quit phantom forces after the september update but I keep watching your videos to see if stylis grows some wrinkles on that smooth brain of theirs and it just keeps getting worse.
if they are going for realism mp7 should have at least 1.5 studs of pen bc of the special ap rounds it has
This is the last straw bruhs... I give up on PF turning back on the "rEaLiSm" thing
If i wanted "Realism" i would play Deadline. This is so stupid
Realism would quite literally never work in PF, they'd have to make a new game altogether
@@Hostesd Yeah like, what realism is there in a ROBLOX GAME???
The one main thing they need to fix or remove is the so called aim assist for controller bring back thr old controller system made gameplay alot better
Why is my baby AK12BR getting changed so much 😭
stylis hates its players
They should add that an high streak increase XP for kills
2 streak= 120 XP for kill
4 streak= 140 XP for kill
6 streak= 160 XP for kill
next they’ll revert the akm damage and keep its new recoil 🙏
Use this very good low recoil setup in the Test place:
AK-9:
Coyote Sight
ARS Suppressor
Hera CQR Grip
Green Laser
Armor Piercing
It's a 3 shot kill to almost 100 studs and other than that 4 shot kill, and has a strong headshot multiplier.
i really liked the AK 12 as it was a BR but as a LMG i just hate it so i play the Beowulf with SOCOM and i love it
I already saw the intervention as slow for a sniper but now i just have to ask. Wont the remington be better after that update?
Definitely add the 1200 rpm Ramp up as a separate attachment, if they’re trying to be more realistic, the M16A1 shouldn’t be able to ramp up by default
in real life the m16 actually would ramp up as it fired, its because of the direct impingement system for the gun, as well as the ammo type selected back in vietnam
@@admama_ source?
the g18c has been defeaten now its the era of the g switches
them changing stuff for realism is just not good tbh, no value to the game
lito has stated that he is willing to sacrifice the playerbase and any "fun" mechanics for the sake of realism
I really don’t think stylis understands how ballistics work. For realisms sake, hollow point should buff your damage, Multis, and should maybe MAYBE increase min damage range. Hollow point should have 0 pen, loads of damage, and good Multis. Armour piercing should have loads of pen on most guns, lower your damage and lower your Multis because of over penetration. Stylis says the armour in the character models does nothing, so why does AP not reduce damage and Multis? As for the other changes I think overall interesting and somewhat realistic, but I am so god damn happy to see assist kills FINALLY count for weapon kills. I have been wanting this change since 2017.
saiga is great lmao. i ahve fun with it. i like the fast reload and new recoil.
my poor baby ak12br. the new update made the recoil poopy imo and i miss the old ak12br
They made the Saiga from fun to be nearly unusable..
If stylus don’t buff the r700 imma crashout
Listen I get nerfing the saiga 12 was a great idea, even I mained it at one point. But the fact that they made it almost downright awful is INSANE. Going back to the E Gun guys wish me luck
Are all your previous assist count kills going to add on your guns once the update is live?
Most likely not but I hope it does since ill get a lot of attachments from thousands of assists
There is some horrible misses here like why do they have to overnerf everything
Changing things for "realism" while nerfing the MP7's penetration (it's literally made to penetrate armour btw) and overnerfing things is wild, it was better than back when everything was getting nerfed and all the assault rifles were the same thing but damn bro calm down
if we want this game to be truly realistic, i have a small list of changes:
ak107 no recoil
mp7 p90 and pp2k need to have 2 studs of pen (p90 maybe 2.3)
all shotguns have no spread until maybe 100 studs
all full auto guns aside from ak107 109 the pdw category and the mgv need to have the most atrocious recoil ever
all lmgs need to implement the ntw bipod mechanic
most of the ar-15 family guns need a ramp up
boxy buster damage nerf to 1 to body and 2 headshot
gun jamming needs to be added
remove all movement tech entirely
add artillery drone strikes, airstrikes and naval and air combat
add a more dramatic suppression effect
all secondaries have spread
all .50 cals lower velocity
all 9mm guns lower velocity
saiga 12 full auto should be around 750 rpm
spotting should be removed
change the player models to be more realistic depictions of people
all guns should 1 shot head
bleed mechanic should be added
movement speed should be nerfed
add raytracing to every map
delete all melees that wouldnt exist irl (chosen one, noobslayer etc)
@@admama_ literally no one asked ill be real, your depth of realism does not align with what stylis is thinking you bum
As an m16a1 main, I approve this buff
dude every single gun thats getting nerfed is a gun that i liked
The Devs should listen more to their community. Horrid changes man, they tweaked the right weapons but they over did it.
bro. The m16a1 is my favorite rifle and it’s alright for mid range. Why did they make the fire rate so high? How am I supposed to get decent ranged kills with it now? I hope you’re right on this being a mistake since it also would make it stupid op in cqc.
next update they should remove the can cannon, its waaay too unrealistic for a game like fanum forces
POV: you were in a Strider video
i hope they dont remove the 50 cal conversion from ak12br
The 12.5mm is bigger than the .50 calibre yk
@@UnFrikiMas0001 ok
Stylis trying to make every gun and conversion as useless as possible so everyone uses the ZIP ratshot
What's funny is I started trying to play the game again a few days ago after a year or so just to find out it sucks now
they could have kept with the rpk74 and the aug a2 7.62 nerf, they dont have to go this far jesus
They want to make the game towards "realism" - and yet they decided to make everything unrealistic
Whats the build with the m16a1 looks like its good
They are killing this game
why did they reduce so many things about the g18c i use it and now its getting nerfed nooo.
Oil up when?
i still love phantom forces but i refuse to play it ever since they banned cases in my country 😭
god dammit they had to nerfed 5 of my favourite guns
curse you stylis
The RPK74 got shit on bro
Oh yeah guys wake up strider posted
rama getting nerfed again oh the pain
THEY FINALLY NERFED AUG a2 thankful god
so whats the best gun in the game rn?
the old m16a1 is finally back, my favourite gun is back 😊
Why is the M16A1 a glorified Vector????
All this complaining in the comments about wanting the old AK12BR meanwhile in the post in the stylis discord at the end THEY LITERALLY SAY "And for anyone missing the old AK-12BR before the recent reworks or the current 12.7x55 conversion, we have a plan for you too. So please give us a bit of time and patience there." like can you people not look at this stuff yourself? and either way im personally kinda interested to see how this upcoming ak12br and svk12 thing is gonna play out
RAMA nerf weird, noone used it anyways and it wasn't overpowered either.
i just pre bought aug a2 like 1 hour ago
AK12BR rework sounds kind of stupid. I think the whole idea of pursuing realism in every single gun is kinda stupid especially since the rework is basically just a new gun (sounds like the AK109 with 5.56 rn but with a drum mag). I feel like they could have just give the RPK12 a conversion and that would be better than just removing the AK12BR. Im not the biggest fan of these fake guns (especially since there are so many real guns that should be added COUGH M1 GARAND COUGH) but this change just seems questionable. Like removing the entire identity of the weapon for the sake of realism (RIP my beautiful MG3) at the expense of having a unique and fun gun just feels like poor game design. Phantom Forces is not going to be fully realistic in everything (otherwise half the movement mechanics wouldn't exist, granted Stylis has tried to kill those as well), so don't try to remove fun weapons and shit from the game for realism's sake.
yeah i just realized the lmg category now has 2 ak12 variants lmao
WHEN IS THE FIX COMING????
WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO MY AK12BR 😭 WHY STYLIS, THE REST OF THE CHANGES IS OKAY, BUT REALLY?!
do not clickbait me is the intervention getting nerfed?
nice i can finally get attachments
THEY NERFED THE SAIGA-12?
NAH.
Aug a2 still good especially the recoil 😂