I always wanted to hire a sovereign citizen, then pay them in jellybeans, explaining that this is the currency of my country. The only problem is that sovcits don't have actual jobs. 😂
Why do judges put up with this? She should have been stopped and told that everything coming out of her mouth is nonsense with no basis in law or reality. There is no trust. There is no special appearance. There is no all caps name or corporate fiction. If she won't answer with her name, 15 days in jail for contempt and keep repeating until she can act right.
It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that you think you have a good scam, when you don't, and believe everyone around you is going to fall for it. Its like pretending you have an invisibility belt and thinking that no one is going to see you.
If you go to the website, when you buy the tier 2 SovCit package it comes with a bonus tin foil hat and a 50% off coupon for the book: "Why the Earth is Really Flat".
Soverign Citizen garbage talk is always hard to listen to because most people know it is B.S. !! Defendent obviously has Not paid and has illegally sent Fraudulent Checks for payment so should be penalized for these crimes!
@@willer3399 Or the document itself is a forgery but whatever, any charges apply are going to be felonies. The judge may have been allowing her to ramble for the collection of evidence.
One of the goofy things about SovCits is that they believe their pseudo-legalese has relevance and has legal weight. They'd have better results if they recited familiar nursery rhymes in court. Its guaranteed that the court is not going to recognize the defendant's monopoly money as being "legal tender".
She is a grifter! I bet $1k that they won’t get their $… needs to be in jail for fraud!!!! These thieves NEED to be put in jail for MAJOR FRAUD!!! Common thief!!!!
she should have been arrested and charged immediately for wire fraud , without all this time wasting , that should have been automatic, plus the judge should have shut down her "attorney in fact " nonsense straight away. This criminal should be in prison.
@@willer3399except that she did not present an actual check, just an endorsement that is to allow a transfer of funds from her (probably non existent) "bond."
I may be remembering incorrectly but isn't knowingly writing and using a bad check illegal? Not just illegal but, penalties increased based on the hight of the dollar amount? If they wanted to, she could easily spend some time locked up.
Wow - where do sovcits get this insanely complex and meaningless information about magical bonds and trusts filled with money? If one SovCit buys a car from another SovCit, will the seller accept the buyers bond as form of payment?
It comes from what is called the Redemptionist Movement. The redemption movement is an offshoot of the Posse Comitatus, an American far right organization which was established in 1969 by leaders of the white supremacist Christian Identity sect. The Posse's beliefs were rooted in antisemitism and they saw income tax, debt-based currency and debt collection as tools of Jewish control of the United States. It found an audience among farmers who were hit by an agricultural recession during the 1970s and 1980s. Yes according to SovCits, the Federal Government is responsible for all debts (not just its own) and will settle any of your debts, if you make a claim in the proper way. And that 'proper way' can include the colour of ink you use :)
WHY do Courts put up with such foolishness? I understand she'll eventually spend time in jail for contempt and then stop appearing in Court and flee the District and it'll all start again when she's found but today, now today, she needs to go to jail. And on her way out the door to jail she needs to be corrected on every single crap phrase she threw out.
I've never been comfortable with the distinction between criminal and civil law. Here, it would be useful for the court to jail someone who refuses to pay a judgment. She should be held, charged for each day she fails to pay up, any resources garnished. It's a flaw of our system that "civil" criminals can dodge accountability and punishment.
Well what happened? Was she arrested? Did she pay up?? Does any one know? I tried finding it but I don’t find any outcome. Let me know if anyone has better luck finding the outcome. Tyvm😊
We don't have to look any further. All you had to hear was that her "check" bounced. Along with the nonsensical babble and useless UCC citation, her argument went over like a fart in church.
In fact she made a very good case (made up of a load of nonsense of course) that her documents were payment. Of course the reality is, they were not payment, no funds were transferred. So simply put, no payment was made, the result should be that payment must be made.
@@zedeyejoe Buddy, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Much like her ridiculous effort to sue the IRS, everything she puts onto paper and that comes out of her mouth is completely incoherent gibberish. She is a certifiable lunatic.
Sovereign Citizens believe that a secret bank account is created for every citizen at birth as part of the process used by the U.S. government to use its citizens as collateral. So she made up a piece of paper, fake homemade check, on the fake account. It's crazy.
Sovereign citizens obviously fit the definition of being insane as they try the same schtick over and over and never let failure in the courts deter the next attempt to use the sovereign citizen script. Think of the benefit a sovereign citizen would gain if they used the same energy gainfully employed and contributing to society.
She will. Some judges just sign the order after the hearing so as to avoid wasting any more time in court. The plaintiff’s attorney knows he won the day.
@@hollytooker507 Did you not watch the motion hearing? She did make the obvious decision, his motion was granted and she indicated she would sign his proposed order.
What's wrong with that judge ???? Can't she that the court is getting duped ??? If thr check didn't clear , than payment hasn't been made. It's that simple. But no , twice she sent a check and both times it bounced . What more does that judge need ??? I guess simple is over the judges head...
What are some of you people talking about? Each side is allowed to present their argument no matter how dumb. There was only one motion heard during the hearing. The judge stated she would sign his proposed order, his motion was granted. She allowed her to babble in rebuttal, and nothing of what she separately filed will be given anything more than a cursory speed-read, it's all irrelevant.
Funny you should say that, first commenter. She indeed has previously attempted to sue the IRS because she refuses to pay her taxes. The judges referred to her stuff as frivolous, incoherent, and batshit crazy. Well, technically the Court did not use the phrase "batshit crazy," but you get my point.
@SiberianHusky666 i found it However, any future submission by Ms. ---------------- Advancing a frivolous or groundless position will result in the imposition of a penalty up to $25,000.
She presented a good argument. She has documents proving that her payment was accepted. But she pushed her claim into fraud by suggesting that the attorney cover the cost. She nows that her "payments" hold no value to the bank. How long will she get to drag this out?
She didn’t present a good argument at all. Her argument is that the payment she tendered was not a check but a negotiable instrument based on an account that exist with the IRS that doesn’t actually exist. Her argument is that she has some phantom account with the government based on her Social Security number that has money, and she made a fake negotiable instrument and sent it to them thinking they would accept it.
Having enormous respect for courts, I hesitate to say this, but I have to suspect the judge was confused by the "attorney in fact." Worse, though, is that she is going to review orders, when what she really wants is memoranda of law or pleadings which would make the respective arguments clear. If she does not rule against the "attorney in fact," she will be appealed, reversed, and I think potentially sanctioned. She hasn't done very well here.
I believe she wanted to know what the defendant thought that meant, rather than being ignorant of the term. She isn’t going to rule in favor of the “attorney in fact.” That term isn’t often used, and it is meaningless in this situation. She can’t be an attorney in fact and represent herself in the same matter.
videos like this are nerve-wracking, because occasionally you'll get some clueless boomer judge who's been on the bench since WW2 and who hears this ridiculous hornswoggle and goes _"gosh, idk, mebbe dey gotta point dere"_ and decides in favor of the sovcit 🤦🤦
@@isaned Sov Cits are not liberal, they are anything but liberal! They dont even live by U.S. laws or policies. They want no part of the U.S. Government, except for some old outdated laws that they like to try to point out. They also sometimes try to use Maritime Law. Either way, its all just made up BS lol.
Can't wait to hear about her criminal indictment
She sounds extremely serious about her gibberish.
@@db7266 She's got that main character syndrome thing down to a science
I always wanted to hire a sovereign citizen, then pay them in jellybeans, explaining that this is the currency of my country.
The only problem is that sovcits don't have actual jobs. 😂
Why do judges put up with this? She should have been stopped and told that everything coming out of her mouth is nonsense with no basis in law or reality. There is no trust. There is no special appearance. There is no all caps name or corporate fiction. If she won't answer with her name, 15 days in jail for contempt and keep repeating until she can act right.
Appeal potential.
@@covrtdesign5279 Exactly. Gotta cross the "t"s and dot the "i"s. Inside, judge is probably trying not to laugh.
Check fraud is a felony. Time for new charges.
Arrest her ass for fraud.
She needs charged with federal charges for using fraudulent documents
Order the defendant to get the money out of the magical bond account and put it into US funds in a bank and then transfer the US funds to the court.
"i don't want to get into semantics here..."
...SAID THE 👏 _SOVEREIGN_ 👏 *_CITIZEN_*
It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that you think you have a good scam, when you don't, and believe everyone around you is going to fall for it. Its like pretending you have an invisibility belt and thinking that no one is going to see you.
She must have bought the tier 2 sovcit package, tier 1 only covers traffic
If you go to the website, when you buy the tier 2 SovCit package it comes with a bonus tin foil hat and a 50% off coupon for the book: "Why the Earth is Really Flat".
The courts waste way too much time with these dunderheads.
Soverign Citizen garbage talk is always hard to listen to because most people know it is B.S. !! Defendent obviously has Not paid and has illegally sent Fraudulent Checks for payment so should be penalized for these crimes!
Until the cash is in the payees account, it is not paid. The judge should refer this case to the D.A. for fraud and forgery charges.
as I said , that should have been an immediate and automatic course of action, . Hard to explain why this even went to court .
It’s not forgery unless she signed someone else’s name.
@@willer3399 Or the document itself is a forgery but whatever, any charges apply are going to be felonies. The judge may have been allowing her to ramble for the collection of evidence.
This is criminal. A million dollar fraud can get her a very long prison sentence.
These people actually think they have a trust fund that they can't access or find but they are sure the court can find it and access it
That was some fancy tap-dancing by the defendant. Sophistic, specious color of law bs.
I always like to see the defendant & their facial expressions 😂. Damn
One of the goofy things about SovCits is that they believe their pseudo-legalese has relevance and has legal weight. They'd have better results if they recited familiar nursery rhymes in court. Its guaranteed that the court is not going to recognize the defendant's monopoly money as being "legal tender".
She is a grifter! I bet $1k that they won’t get their $… needs to be in jail for fraud!!!! These thieves NEED to be put in jail for MAJOR FRAUD!!! Common thief!!!!
She said she''s not allowed to give anyone legal advice, that was the only truthful thing she said.
she should have been arrested and charged immediately for wire fraud , without all this time wasting , that should have been automatic, plus the judge should have shut down her "attorney in fact " nonsense straight away. This criminal should be in prison.
Especially, with that amount of money. We’re not talking about a hot check for a pack of cigarettes.
Since she didn’t attempt a wire transfer, it wasn’t wire fraud, it was check fraud. I agree she should be prosecuted.
@@willer3399except that she did not present an actual check, just an endorsement that is to allow a transfer of funds from her (probably non existent) "bond."
The additional charge should be "negotiating a worthless instrument" (send a phony, worthless "check").
that's just straight up fraud.
When they try talk smart, they sound dumber
I’ll give her her due. It actually sounds pretty good. However: I don’t see how she can believe that actual lawyers can see it’s all BS.
She sounded stupid AF.
Because they are lawyers, not accountants.
I may be remembering incorrectly but isn't knowingly writing and using a bad check illegal? Not just illegal but, penalties increased based on the hight of the dollar amount? If they wanted to, she could easily spend some time locked up.
Wow - where do sovcits get this insanely complex and meaningless information about magical bonds and trusts filled with money? If one SovCit buys a car from another SovCit, will the seller accept the buyers bond as form of payment?
It comes from what is called the Redemptionist Movement. The redemption movement is an offshoot of the Posse Comitatus, an American far right organization which was established in 1969 by leaders of the white supremacist Christian Identity sect. The Posse's beliefs were rooted in antisemitism and they saw income tax, debt-based currency and debt collection as tools of Jewish control of the United States. It found an audience among farmers who were hit by an agricultural recession during the 1970s and 1980s.
Yes according to SovCits, the Federal Government is responsible for all debts (not just its own) and will settle any of your debts, if you make a claim in the proper way. And that 'proper way' can include the colour of ink you use :)
WHY do Courts put up with such foolishness? I understand she'll eventually spend time in jail for contempt and then stop appearing in Court and flee the District and it'll all start again when she's found but today, now today, she needs to go to jail. And on her way out the door to jail she needs to be corrected on every single crap phrase she threw out.
I've never been comfortable with the distinction between criminal and civil law. Here, it would be useful for the court to jail someone who refuses to pay a judgment. She should be held, charged for each day she fails to pay up, any resources garnished. It's a flaw of our system that "civil" criminals can dodge accountability and punishment.
Why were they awarded almost $1,000,000? I want to see that court case.
If I were the judge I would have her take her negotiable instrument and convert it into cash and deposit that cash with the court.
"Pop-Cans-MONEY! Office-SUBMARINE!"~Kids In The Hall.
I'm hoping she will be prosecuted for writing 2 million dollar fraudulent checks? Please put her behind in jail.
The definition of money is money.😮😮😮😅😅😅😅
Where does she get this nonsense from? Paid an internet site for it??
11:53 "I don't want to get into semantics here..." My sister in Christ, your whole straw man argument is based on semantic wrangling 😂
Yep. And brilliant, isn’t she.
You wrote a bogus check, a rubber draft, a scam instrument.
Sending phoney cheques to court. There might be wiser strategies.
I’m embarrassed that a seemingly intelligent woman could say what she did with seriousness
There's a major difference between intelligence and mania.
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Another "Secret Squirrel" account ....for over a MILLION $$$$.
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Thats OK, every SovCit has 'billions' in their secret account, according to them.
The part that bothers me the most is the end where she thinks she has a chance
That's the part that made me laugh. She's the ONLY one, both in court and on the internet, who thought she had a chance! 😂
Interesting, she is saying it was legal tender, but it was not, because there was no value in her tender, therfore she still owes the money
$970 THOUSAND?!?
Some of her prison psychiatrists charged by the hour.
@@SiberianHusky666 LOL
Wow! Talk about word salad!
Hey...she sent a check... what more do you want🤪
Is she claiming that since the court gave her a receipt for her bad check that makes it good ? I must be misunderstanding her .
No, that’s her exact argument! Sov Cits love to use this one, old standard in their playbook.
Sovereign Citizen scam
Well what happened? Was she arrested? Did she pay up?? Does any one know? I tried finding it but I don’t find any outcome. Let me know if anyone has better luck finding the outcome. Tyvm😊
We don't have to look any further. All you had to hear was that her "check" bounced. Along with the nonsensical babble and useless UCC citation, her argument went over like a fart in church.
In fact she made a very good case (made up of a load of nonsense of course) that her documents were payment. Of course the reality is, they were not payment, no funds were transferred. So simply put, no payment was made, the result should be that payment must be made.
@@zedeyejoe Buddy, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Much like her ridiculous effort to sue the IRS, everything she puts onto paper and that comes out of her mouth is completely incoherent gibberish. She is a certifiable lunatic.
Why isn't a receipt sent on clearance of the check?
I get how low a bar this is, but I'm just amazed she knows how to properly pronounce the word _"beneficiary"_ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What a weirdo 😂
What in holy heck it this weirdo " attorney " saying ???????????? Gibberish and delusion.
Sovereign Citizens believe that a secret bank account is created for every citizen at birth as part of the process used by the U.S. government to use its citizens as collateral. So she made up a piece of paper, fake homemade check, on the fake account. It's crazy.
Sovereign citizens obviously fit the definition of being insane as they try the same schtick over and over and never let failure in the courts deter the next attempt to use the sovereign citizen script. Think of the benefit a sovereign citizen would gain if they used the same energy gainfully employed and contributing to society.
I wonder where is trust and bond stuff is.
$978,000?? $1,350,000??? YEESH!!
So she didn’t actually pay the amount due (now with interest it’s more) so what’s to decide? Why didn’t the judge make the obvious decision?
She will. Some judges just sign the order after the hearing so as to avoid wasting any more time in court. The plaintiff’s attorney knows he won the day.
@@hollytooker507 Did you not watch the motion hearing? She did make the obvious decision, his motion was granted and she indicated she would sign his proposed order.
What's wrong with that judge ???? Can't she that the court is getting duped ???
If thr check didn't clear , than payment hasn't been made. It's that simple.
But no , twice she sent a check and both times it bounced . What more does that judge need ???
I guess simple is over the judges head...
Yes. I don’t why she just didn’t issue her ruling and be done with it.
The judge absolutely got it. Do you really think a judge, who knows the law, bought any of that "attorney in fact's" nonsense?
@@SandraLily2 perhaps , but she did in fact allow the criminal to continue without shutting her down and charging her,
What are some of you people talking about? Each side is allowed to present their argument no matter how dumb. There was only one motion heard during the hearing. The judge stated she would sign his proposed order, his motion was granted. She allowed her to babble in rebuttal, and nothing of what she separately filed will be given anything more than a cursory speed-read, it's all irrelevant.
A complete word salad meaning nothing.
Thanks for this. Would love to see follow up
I'll post if there is any
It's not the first time she's been in court ..
The verbals are on point, but bolloxs ..
she may have fought the IRS before...
She is absolutely brilliant. She should really become an attorney for real.
@@annamarielewis7078You're joking.
Funny you should say that, first commenter. She indeed has previously attempted to sue the IRS because she refuses to pay her taxes. The judges referred to her stuff as frivolous, incoherent, and batshit crazy. Well, technically the Court did not use the phrase "batshit crazy," but you get my point.
@SiberianHusky666 i found it
However, any future submission by Ms. ---------------- Advancing a frivolous or groundless position will result in the imposition of a penalty up to $25,000.
What happened??
Was she ordered to pay?
$900,000+ payment due to the plaintiff? That’s a lot of money - what is the payment for?
Must be a house.
@@crazy-88sI actually think it was a payment due to a lost case, if I heard the testimony correctly?
@@lawrences.7897 She lost a debt case against a realtor ..
no conclusion is a waste of time
She presented a good argument. She has documents proving that her payment was accepted. But she pushed her claim into fraud by suggesting that the attorney cover the cost. She nows that her "payments" hold no value to the bank.
How long will she get to drag this out?
She didn’t present a good argument at all. Her argument is that the payment she tendered was not a check but a negotiable instrument based on an account that exist with the IRS that doesn’t actually exist. Her argument is that she has some phantom account with the government based on her Social Security number that has money, and she made a fake negotiable instrument and sent it to them thinking they would accept it.
Her argument was jibberish.
woah woah she was ordered to pay nearly $1,000,000? 😮
WTF
Having enormous respect for courts, I hesitate to say this, but I have to suspect the judge was confused by the "attorney in fact." Worse, though, is that she is going to review orders, when what she really wants is memoranda of law or pleadings which would make the respective arguments clear. If she does not rule against the "attorney in fact," she will be appealed, reversed, and I think potentially sanctioned. She hasn't done very well here.
I believe she wanted to know what the defendant thought that meant, rather than being ignorant of the term.
She isn’t going to rule in favor of the “attorney in fact.” That term isn’t often used, and it is meaningless in this situation. She can’t be an attorney in fact and represent herself in the same matter.
she wasn't confused, she's sharp, she'll sign the correct order, she just didn't want to hear her blab any longer
What happened, did she pay?
No. The lunatic also tried to sue the IRS because they're after her, too.
of course she didn't pay, if there's an update I'll post it, it just happened a few days ago
videos like this are nerve-wracking, because occasionally you'll get some clueless boomer judge who's been on the bench since WW2 and who hears this ridiculous hornswoggle and goes _"gosh, idk, mebbe dey gotta point dere"_ and decides in favor of the sovcit 🤦🤦
@@42words Umm...that has literally never happened.
If she’s in Oregon, she can just go about her business. Not enough attorneys here to do anything at all.😖
And they know that. The liberals know this and they just keep doing it.
@@isaned Sov Cits are not liberal, they are anything but liberal! They dont even live by U.S. laws or policies. They want no part of the U.S. Government, except for some old outdated laws that they like to try to point out. They also sometimes try to use Maritime Law. Either way, its all just made up BS lol.
Does anyone know any of the case information on this and any outcome or if it is still an open and current case?