Why So Few Americans Live In Kentucky As Compared To Tennessee
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Kentucky and Tennessee are two states with a similar history, culture, and geography. But despite these similarities, Tennessee has handily outpaced Kentucky in terms of population over the last few decades. Even today, Tennessee has been growing at a rapid rate while Kentucky's growth is relatively flat. So why is there such a population difference between two states that are otherwise so similar?
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As someone that lives in Kentucky I think a lot of the population difference is because of how many people own 100s of acres of land in kentucky that haven’t been able to be developed. Love living in Kentucky!!
Good. If you are lucky those people won’t sell out because when they do tons of houses pop up, new complaints about age old things from outsiders so you get new laws and more bs and your once peaceful life is just like big city be
When I attended university of Kentucky college of agriculture over 20 years ago the average farm size in Kentucky was 50 acres due to our heavy reliance on tobacco. So I don’t think there’s that many large holdings . Where I live it has been serval 10 to 15 acre lots divided all along a road. I now on 100 acres, but that is on nine tracks of land in total.
@@iTzKevinFTW i know the people in the county I live in dont tend to sell out. all us got the mind set of "this is my dirt" justin moore
@@CooterELee I dont hate the idea of land getting divide into smaller lots, as long as they stay within the family/people that want to raise there families in KY on land like so many previous generations.
I love living in Kentucky too!
As someone who lives in KY and works in Nashville, I don’t want KY to grow like TN.
Nashville has lost all its culture over the last couple of decades and has become an expensive commercial cesspool.
Nashville has become pretty gross.
I went a year or two ago to Nashville. I expected honky tonks and great not known good country music. To my disappointment. All I heard was rap everywhere I went. Shame.
Sadly Nashville is a huge refugee hub and "they" do cause changes that most don't like. Bowling Green KY is also a hub and is becoming more and more foreign. Certain walmart there, more foreigners than citizens.
Y'all are looking in the wrong places. Stay out of the bars and take in some of the museums. I highly recommend the Frist museum in the old post office.
Lol can't go anywhere without a NIMBY complaining about change.
I live in Ky -if our population doesn’t go up, I’m good with that!
It is slowly bUT surely
Same!
Im on the way
Yeah, and then the cost of everything will go up since you will have to pay people more to do jobs like nursing assistants, etc. since there will be a shortage people. God, do you not think of the long term?
Oh it’s going up especially Louisville metro area surrounding counties
Living in Eastern Tennessee, I feel so fortunate. Lots of jobs, and so many outdoor recreational opportunities. Now, when I visit Eastern Kentucky, it's a totally different story. Dont get me wrong. Eastern Kentucky is beautiful, but the economic situation is absolutely depressing.
"State of Franklin" !!! ;-)
Western and central kentucky is much better than eastern ky
And after living in western KY and Eastern TN my entire life, I'm sitting here contemplating moving to Eastern KY because all these people from out of state are flooding in and ruining my everything I love. I'd much rather move to Eastern KY where things are much simpler and a whole lot quieter.
I live in EKY and most of the people don’t want change or growth. We are a weird bunch of people lol
I live in eastern Kentucky and the situation makes no sense. Jobs around here are low paying but rent is still sky high for anything other than a 1 bedroom apartment. I’m lucky to have a remote job from Louisville that keeps me afloat but Kentucky in general is screwed on housing unless your in the west end of Louisville that has a ridiculous crime rate
I think it has more to do with no state tax in Tennessee.
Yes! I’ve lived in both states. Tennessee has a much better tax system. No tax on groceries in ky but they make up for it in many other places.
I'm in Florida no state tax..But that's nothing to party about they get the money in other ways
No Kentucky boring & lame
@@615bandup2 that’s the way we like it.
@@615bandup2that’s the way we like it so people like you stay away.
As a Kentuckian - Stay out lol traffic is already bad enough we have enough people here.
Agree. When Ohio drivers come down 71 and 75 its gets worse. lol
Louisville (including the traffic) reminds me of Nashville from the 1980s and 90s. Better days, to be sure.
Nashville has tons more people than it did 20 years ago, but the infrastructure is largely the same. Not a great combo.
Our traffic is nothing compared to any other larger metro and surrounding suburbs.
I agree but Nashville has too many here now and Kentucky can have them
@@rodneystewart8958 We don't want them. Lol
The population boom is destroying Tennessee
It has taken the wonderful place that I love so much and turned into one giant traffic snarl full of people from somewhere else
Our culture is gone especially in Nashville
I miss the great state of Tennessee so much
Californians
I felt this
Nashville traffic is impossible. The valleys restrict the building of roads to accommodate the residents of the large city it has become. Mass transit would help, but the people don't want to pay. The area has become a culture in a Petri dish which is out of food and begun to feed on itself.
It is sad to see. The eastern side of Tennessee has still kept its rural sense as I have observed traveling south on 75.
Your culture isn’t Nashville you not even from Nashville how that’s your culture
I live in East Tennessee. It's actually quite chaotic now, compared to how it used to be. I kinda want to go back to nobody knowing what state Tennessee even is... Roads are flooded with traffic, traffic that these said roads are unable to handle, there's no way for me to move out of my parents' house, because these apartment complexes that have been under Construction have all been snatched up in under a week, and it seems that only the rich people from cali and NY can survive here anymore. I am a native born Tennesseean and i cannot survive here anymore.
But i do not want to give up.... This is my home state and it is so beautiful..... I will stay here for as long as i live.
I agree with you 1000000% … Don’t lose hope. We need to plant lots of trees; pick up litter; push our cities & counties to have better planning; hope that Trump deports 10 millions illegals beginning next year; and hopefully some of these people will eventually return to their home states.
Cali and New York people overcrowded Florida too.
I feel the same way man I live in middle Tennessee towards the bottom and it’s just becoming awful. I love this area and the rural areas and hope to buy a bunch of land but it is way too expensive now like it’s ridiculous. There is someone selling 13 acres in the middle of nowhere for 400k with no improvements and that’s just the least of it. Everyone moving here is forcing so much development to just creep and creep that one day all of i65 will just be apartment complexes and cookie cutter subdivisions which I hate. I’m going to have to move somewhere more rural and cheaper which I hate honestly, maybe I’ll looks at northwest tn where it’s extremely rural still but for now I’m stuck in my parents house
Yeah, the Yanks destroyed Florida and are now moving to do the same thing to TN. SMH
I live in eastern Tennessee, more east than Knoxville, and it’s still nice here. I like my small town. There’s not much reason for anyone to move here so I think I’m safe.
We moved to KY 14 years ago and have never looked back. Cost of living is much less in the south part of the state and in any agricultural area. My taxes on a good sized home and 18 acres is less than $500 a year. We love it here!
Sssshhhh!
My taxes on 14 acres of steep, unusable forest and the 1945 built 400sq ft Brick facade home is over 2 K. and I'm in one of the poorest counties, smack dab in the middle of the Appalachian Mountains. I bought it 3 years ago. 14 years ago property was a LOT cheaper than 3 years ago and thus much cheaper taxes.
Yep, moved to south central KY in 2014, buying 70 acres (beautifully rural, half crop land/half woods ) for the same price as the 1/4 acre lot for my house in suburban Atlanta. Taxes way lower, people way nicer, quality of life better than the ATL...and on top of that the wildcats took down the vols last week, which was sweet. :-)
Damn. I pay $5000/year on 3 acres and average three bed home. That’s property and school…….
You really should keep your mouth shut, unless you want a bunch of california weirdos moving here and jacking up your taxes!!
Kentucky's Golden Triangle (Louisville to Lexington to Northern KY) is where the action is economically, basically the Bluegrass region. You could add Elizabethtown to that as well.
Automotive is number 1 industry in Kentucky and Tennessee.
Don't forget UPS and Amazon now.
Bull crap
Kentucky also has the largest farm and ranch equipment maker. Tarter Gate. Look it up.
Tourism plays a massive part in TN. Financially Louisville has become an utter fail. Metro area is very short on law enforcement. Louisville can’t get its children bussed to school. Crime is rising. Liberal policies are destroying Louisville.
@@user-if4rj3hr1j 2 Ford plants in Louisville (pick-up truck and SUV), largest Toyota factory in US at Georgetown, Corvette plant in Bowling Green and dozens of other companies that make parts and pre-assembled components for auto plants in other states. Largest electric battery factory in America being built in Elizabethtown. Take away automotive and all you have is bourbon, horses and farming in KY.
I'm from Florida but graduated from EKU, both parents are buried in Kentucky and I am leaving Florida and retiring to Kentucky. It is a great place to live
EKU grad also!!
EKU here also
I've lived 15 minutes away from EKU most of my life, and many of my friends go there now. It truly is a beautiful and prosperous place to live, assuming you're financially stable at least.
@@scrappybadger4369 I'm from Berea myself
I’m in Florida as well. I want land in Kentucky. My moms family is from Appalachia
I think more people are discovering KY right now due to the high rents, real estate in TN now, especially middle TN. My niece bought a house on the cheap there. Kentucky is really beautiful. I would love to see it continue to be Ag focused.
Youre 34th in population growth. So no.
As someone that moved to KY 20 years ago.... it was a big shock to the system with how racist and backwards many ppl can be in some areas of KY
@@jammier6483 I couldn’t care less
@@rosscoursey4979 Of course you couldn't you practice situational ethics.
I live in southeast TN but am house hunting in West Kentucky because of housing cost. Can't buy a shack here for under 200K.
One of my ancestors traveled with Daniel and Squire Boone from Pennsylvania to Kentucky.
Bought about 400 acres, had Squire Boone to survey it. What history doesn't tell you is that both of them sucked at land surveying.
Squire and Daniel both lost a lot of money from lawsuits and ended up leaving Kentucky. My family has been here ever since.
I grew up in Kentucky and everything is named Daniel Boone this and Boone that and I never knew he ran out of kentucky because he sucked at his job. Amazing.
My ancestors came West even before Boone. Not Daniel, Pat.
George Washington surveyed a lot of Virginia. Now I’m curious if he sucked or not.
I wonder if that's part of the reason for the tradition of crazy boundary marks. A client had inherited property in Kentucky. One boundary mark just set a stone at the edge of the woods. Certainly different from the normal markings in my state. I heard someone had a boundary mark as the middle of a river in West Virginia. But even that can be identified well! Even if it shifts a bit. But woods expand over time.
Squire Boone was also a lay minister and performed the wedding ceremony for my great-great-great-grandfather and his Native American bride in Eastern Kentucky.
As a Western Kentucky homeowner, let me just say that I love living in a mid-rural area. "Town" is a mere 22 miles away. There's a country GP down the road. And you can't throw a rock without hitting a Bar-B-Que joint, a Baptist church, or a Dollar General store. Not to mention the smaller communities with slowly growing commerce that brings whatever you need closer to home. You might laugh, but there are four Wal-Mart supercenters each within a 30 minute drive. Lexington and Louisville are like another state to Western Kentuckians. Nashville and St. Louis are both just a day-drive away. There is something here for everyone. From fine dining to fishing, from shopping to camping and hiking. It's all "just down the road a bit". There is no reason to live anywhere else.
Where in western kentucky do you reside? I live 30 miles outside owensboro, and everything you've described is fairly accurate
@@NicoTheGreat5 I dunno where he / she is at, but that almost sounds like Paducah-area (reference to old nuclear processing plant west of town?), but I'm not sure about the 4th Wal-Mart, maybe Paducah (2), Murray, and Benton or Mayfield? LBL a bit to the east, Ohio River, interesting Wildlife Management Areas, and a bit north in S. IL, the Shawnee National Forest and a bunch of medium and small lakes. (S. IL great if you like rural areas & nature, but horrible taxes & IL Gov't...)
Shhhhhh..... No it's not. It's awful. Don't come here. Go to Tennesee!
Most what claims to be "Baptist" is just a Hebrews chapter 12 "bastard". The east side of KY offers the crasmaniac pentecoastals.....
Stop it! Keep it a secret!
Both are beautiful states. I don't see having a lower population as a bad thing.
I agree. I see it as a blessing 🙏❤️
Kentucky and Tenn. has a lot of small farms. They both have a large cattle population per acre. Good water resources. If it hits the fan either state is a good option. Both fall into the category of "The patron state of shootin stuff".
Yesir 😂 TN baby
Why does Tennessee look like a shredded piece of toilet paper holding a pile of Kentucky 😭
@@DonariaRegia We hope more people notice and choose to stay out. Spread the word.
@@C-Culper4874 Too bad because we're coming, not to stay but to drop off the worst people we can find after telling them you invited them and trespassing is legal.
If it hits the fan we will not be allowing just anyone into the state regardless of what the government says.
Had to take Tennessee history in grade school. Biggest factor by far is the TVA project. As a result, Kentucky completely missed the baby boomer generation growth and fell behind. In 1945, their populations were almost identical. Then from the 70's on they have had similar population growth curves.
The TVA is also what made my hometown of Huntsville, AL relevant. What was once a rural town/very small city is now the fastest growing city in Alabama and one of the biggest tech hubs in the world.
Kentucky has the TVA but all of their lakes are in dry counties. That didn’t help a bit
@@darylb5564 Historically dry counties, but it hasn't been that way in many years. Calloway has been wet for a decade, for example.
Without the government energy prices would be higher in TN and surrounding areas.
The other government agencies help keep the prices down as well. WAPA, SWPA, BPA, and SEPA (this agency is unique).
@@darylb5564I think that has changed big time!
Kentucky is such a beautiful state...very woodsy, alot of mountains.
Don't forget the Louisville Slugger. The baseball bat.
I was born in eastern Kentucky, moved to Lexington (central Kentucky) for college and stayed here. I have lived in Kentucky for 63 years. I always enjoyed hiking, camping, rock climbing, mountain biking and white water kayaking. I've noticed many cars from Ohio and Indiana in our national forests and state parks. I was never interested in going for a Sunday drive but I bought a small adventure motorcycle for my 60th birthday and was pleasantly surprised to realize that I could let the GPS avoid interstates and all of the rides were good. If I also avoided larger secondary roads and forced it to route me on back roads trough forests and farms, the rides were all very good to excellent. Kentucky is a beautiful state. We also have some gorgeous skies - clouds and sunsets. Most people don't think of that when they think of Kentucky. Relatives visit from Texas and I drive them through horse farms and they're gawking at the verdant beauty of Kentucky.
We moved from Chicago to Kentucky 10 years ago. Love it !
Sounds like a beautiful state. Might move there.
But very poor and far from having the best healthcare system
Great video and more in depth history lesson, loved it and reading some of your followers comments.
As a Kentuckian who’s lived in western and central Kentucky. The sweet spot of the state is between Louisville and Lexington. Western Kentucky is hardly thought of in central kentucky and eastern Kentucky is just too rural. Lots of people I work with come from hazard, pikeville or Harlan. Truthfully Nashville has such a big reach that most of western Kentucky follows their local newscasts. Just a geography thing. Nashville has done more for western Kentucky then Louisville, Lexington or Frankfort
I live in western KY and Louisville is 2 hours 45 minutes away whereas Nashville is only 2 hours. End up going to Nashville twice as often as Louisville.
No y’all just like Tennessee more has nothing to do with Nashville , Nashville does nothing for Kentucky not even Kentucky why yall cities dont go hard for yall that’s weird it’s crazy yall have to drive to another state just for better job & everything else that’s crazy im from Nashville that’s crazy if I had to drive to Huntsville for better job , I don’t get why our news cover southern Kentucky when it not even Tennessee yall cities should be helping yall it not Tennessee or Nashville job to help yall
I live in West KY, and Nashville is usually the quickest place to see a doctor without waiting years. All the specialists and dentists in our area get tied up for an unreasonably long time between your appointments, it's often easier to just go out of state and pay cash. I've also moved there several times for work when there were simply no jobs in my hometown.
This is true. I live in Jackson Purchase and Nashville is only an hour and a half away.
@@rw9495 that’s crazy how Kentucky don’t help yall you shouldn’t have to go to another state & city for medical dental health care that’s crazy , everybody use Tennessee for everything just like Mississippi people have to go to Memphis for a job or health care that’s crazy how Tennessee gotta help everybody
As a PLS (Professional Land Surveyor), I very much enjoyed and appreciated your simplified explanation of the border “jog” between Kentucky and Tennessee. There are a few more details that could be stated, but those are best to be reserved for a more detailed explanation which few would care about, other than hard core historians.
You accurately hit the nail on the head though!
I love your channel and thankful for your presentations.
everybody should watch "Harlan County, USA", a 1976 documentary about a Kentucky coal workers strike
It's sad that Kentucky and West Virginia voters turned against both unions (for safety and wages) and modern industry.
That's one of the greatest documentaries ever made. It can be seen on YT, and I agree, everyone should watch it.
@@mairhart That's the issue... low-educated voters... They hated Hillary but she told them the truth...coal is dying. But they loved the lie that Trump told them that they could continue with coal jobs into the 21st century. They need to diversify and that is via education. The union is great but can only protect you with an industry that's growing. Do you remember that coal company that polluted the drinking water in West Virginia? They couldn't use the faucets for over a month...but they were only concerned with their coal mining jobs. My friend visited a school in Morgantown WVa and talked to the students about education and finishing high school and going to college. They said, they didn't care, they just wanted to get their red cap. Go to mining school and go into the mines like their parents...
Cast Iron Filter is a great band from Harland County
You'll never leave Harlan alive...
Really excellent informative video. Thanks!
I was in basic training in Fort Knox in early 1996. There was a soldier in my platoon from Kentucky who specifically joined the army to see the world.
His first permanent duty station after basic?
Yup.
Fort Knox.
Hoosier here. I did almost the same thing. I joined the Army in 2003 and I got stationed at Ft. Campbell, KY, about seven hours from where I was born. I got to see Iraq a couple of times, but I don't count that as seeing the world.
@@shammes95 I was fortunate to be in the army between complexities.
Lol. 🙂
@@shammes95 Another fun fact I found out when I was stationed in Ft. Campbell a while back. The vast majority of the base is in Tennessee. But because the Post Office for the base is located on the smaller Kentucky side, it's considered in "Kentucky" rather than Tennessee.
He should have joined the Navy. I got to see a good portion of the world. And I’ll never forget it.
Fascinating video. I live in Lexington Kentucky. Outside of here and Louisville, it gets rural quickly outside city limits. Much of Kentucky unpopulated. Bluegrass region is beautiful on horse farms
Kentucky is a hidden gem. I’ve lived in several states but always end up coming home to Kentucky. I’m about 15 minutes from the Tennessee border in south east ky.
In Kentucky we have to pay taxes on our vehicles every year. In Tennessee they only have to pay a flat rate for registration every year for tags, Kentuckians have to pay a usage tax every year that based on the value of your vehicle could be hundreds of dollars per year for several years.
When I left Arizona in 1996, we were paying $835 a month for rent plus 9% tax. The house was 1100 square feet. Today in Kentucky my house is 1600 ft appraised at $175,000 and my house payment (not rent) is $600 a month.
Kentucky is cheaper in so many ways but wages are quite low to match
It's way past time we Kentuckians start protesting car tag taxes and the huge fee. Half of my car and house taxes go to Warren county schools which is ridiculous . They don't need new schools constantly other counties and cities don't get new facilities they remodel and use what they have. Principals don't need to make 6 figures. Jefferson County schools has hundreds (I think, looked up data before but forgot) of employees making over 100000 a year.
That is wild! Sounds like CA! The flat fee in TN is so cheap lol. We were blown away with how cheap the registration and tags were. Got ourselves some fancy license plates bc it was so cheap lol.
@@francestaylor9156 a lot of people around where I live have property they own or lease around one of the lakes in Tennessee and since they have an address there they’re able to tag there vehicles there and do it much cheaper.
@@AlaninUSA66 KY taxes the people to death and thing is people here don't have a lot of money. Getting blood from a stone
As someone who lives in Kentucky you were close, we have 6 regions not 5. What we were taught in school is there isn't a Cumberland Plateau region but rather the Eastern Coal Fields and the Knobs (which incircle part of the Bluegrass Region). I am originally from the Western Coal Fields, but currently live In the Jackson Purchase where the border with Tennessee drops down in a little town called Murray, home of the Murray State Racers. Go Racers! Great video!
The last time I was in the state, the Knobs were still there. One of them's even named for relatives!
Had hoped my daughter would go there for college. Covid shutdown had other plans though. We loved watching the murray marching band. Beautiful town.
Ironically, Tennessee has a ski resort, but not Kentucky.
Totally different topography. Kentucky is mostly plateau in the east, with deep gorges.
No, Tennessee doesn't have a State Income Tax.
Arizona has three ski resorts. It's about altitude as much as it is about latitude - Tennessee has mountains in the east that are about 2500 ft higher than anywhere in Kentucky.
There is nothing ironic about that.
Ober Gatlinburg hardly qualifies as a ski resort! Lol
lived in Owensboro, Ky for a year. it was dirt cheap to live and i do miss living near the river
I rode through Owensboro for the first time, last August, since 2010 or so. It has grown a bit.
The development on the riverfront was very nice to see.
I grew up there. It was a great place to grow up in the 70s to 90s.
@@mr1nyc its really grown business wise its still mostly a place to raise a family. i do miss it though
Dirt cheap for a reason 🤣
Everytime I here Owensboro...I hear Moonlight Barbecue...
Good show. Nicely done. Hope you can make several videos in Ireland. Please talk about golf there.
Missed one factor that helped the state in general and Nashville in particular that being I-40 which is the major east west highway for the US.
Add in I-65 and I-24 they make the city a major transportation hub.
I liked this video. I have lived in Kentucky for 30 years now, and traveled a lot in Tennessee too. It is interesting to see the differences. Our flood control projects were 3-4 decades after TN's TVA flood control projects. That had never occurred to me before.
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As a proud Kentucky resident, we have been lucky to have a lower population, we are the Blue Grass and Bourbon State, and our rural communities have strong ties to the land, which is one reason so much land is not being sold to developers who want to put housing and commercial development on the land, Kentucky was once called The Dark and Bloody Ground by the Native American Indian Tribes that have their roots in Kentucky, many people in Kentucky can trace their roots back to at least one of the many tribes that once roamed the land for its abundant wildlife that they hunted to feed the tribes throughout the winter, tribes from other states would also come into Kain tuckee in order to hunt and fish in the many rivers that all flowed into the mighty Ohio River.
It’s important to know that Eastern Tennessee is and has done way better than Western part
The east and middle. I know I live in west TN. Population basically the same as it was in 2000.
@@harryballsak1123 lower humidity and demographics
I don't know that I'd say way better. There still some petty primitive pockets in middle and east Tennessee.
West Tennessee is fine.
@@jr642 Please as someone who has lived here since 1993 I beg to differ
@@harryballsak1123 if we’re judging based on who has lived where the longest then I win.
I’ve lived in Nashville, Memphis and rural west Tennessee. West Tennessee is fine. I don’t know exactly what you think it’s missing….mountains ?
I live in the Lexington area, born in northern Kentucky. I’ve lived in Florida, New Jersey and Connecticut, plus I’ve worked all over the U.S. and Europe. I’ve seen lots of nice places, but Kentucky’s home and where I want to be.
As a person that works in a DMV setting in KY, I see floods of TN citizens jumping ship for KY on a daily basis. The biggest reason, cost of living increases. Everything cost more in TN. Other popular transplants include CA, OH, and VA, with an honorable mention going to AZ.
We have had 7 families from ny and 2 from California move to our little neighborhood here in Western ky. They are adjusting. Lol.
Louisville's true identity. Crime, drugs, bourbon, and horse racing. I live here
West sides a mess, middle is for degenerate gamblers. Fun city lol
me too, and i love it!
The crime and drugs are due to being so close to Indiana!!!!
I luv it 502 South Louisville!!!
@kaohsiung99 please elaborate cuz I would highly disagree
My grandma lived in KY, near Greensburg, right outside of a little town called Summersville. It has the blinking yellow light at the 4 corner main intersection. Got to love the back country roads that were paved over old cow paths.
Summersville is also known for its drive in theater which is only open in the summer time.
Hey Geoff, I just watched this Tennessee/Kentucky video. It was great! You missed one really interesting fact though. In Lake County TN, the most northwesterly county, there is a piece of Kentucky that is only accessible from Tennessee.
There is a part of North Carolina that is only accessible by land from Virginia.
Are you referring to the infamous "Kentucky Bend"?
If so, I plan to drive through it when I visit Illinois next month, which will be when the next solar eclipse happens!
Yes! The Kentucky Bend. I'm from Kentucky and have never been to that part of the state. I would like to visit that area one day 👍
There are also SEVERAL pieces of Tennessee only accessible by Arkansas
@Thedaleb1 Down near Bracey VA and Warren NC, there is also a place in VA that is only accessible through NC. It was caused when Lake Gaston was built. There used to be a marina there called Nocarva because the property was in 2 states. There are also several homes on the VA side. In Halifax County VA, there is a farm that is only accessible via NC. The state line cuts the property in half.
Lower taxes in Tenn. I have lived in both states.
Agree. Lived in both as well.
Kentucky taxes are not much higher, compared to the rest of the nation.
The "low taxes create growth" myth doesn't hold up. Minnesota raised taxes on corporations in recent years and has far higher economic growth than any other midwestern state, and the highest economic confidence of all 50 states, according to one study. Illinois and Wisconsin cut taxes in the '90s and 2000s and their economies have been disasters.
@@brianarbenz1329 Absolutely. Low taxes DESTROYED Kansas.
@@mairhart Kentucky has State and County income taxes. Kentucky taxes your vehicle as property. Kentucky has way too many counties for its size.
Chattanooga also was an early investor in Municipal Gigabit Broadband which was provided by EPB (Electric Power Board). This provided low cost internet to the Chattanooga Metro area. It also attracted lots of tech startups. Chattanooga was a blueprint from municipal broadband after they got up and running. My parents live there and get their broadband and TV from EPB and it costs a fraction of what I pay in Atlanta, plus all the support jobs are filled locally.
I lived in CA 4 yrs ago and paid $88 for high speed internet & phone service. Moved to KY and internet alone was $116
‘Tennesse ain’t Kentucky cause you ain’t here to love me’. 🎶 Damn I gotta go listen to that song now. Thanks bro.
Weirdly enough, there's technically only one mountain in Kentucky, Black/Pine Mountain. The ruggedness is from dense ridge lines packed in tight.
What I was told is, that back in the 60s and 70s, before they cut roads through the hills and ridges, it would take all day to drive a 70 miles, in eastern Kentucky. It's still isolated when you get away from the major roads.
Yes. As a kid , my family drove thru those mountain places to visit family. Early 60s. It was a long slow trip ,sometimes on the edge of mountains on almost single lane roads.
And that's how most people there like it.
I moved my family to KY from So Cal 20 years ago. Thankfully got far enough away from CA that other CA escapees haven't ruined the state yet. Can't say that about AZ, NV, OR, or WA. Seeing the same thing happen to TX, and TN (Nashville especially) is not that far behind. Whenever anyone asks about KY, I just tell 'em we are all barefoot and toothless so they don't want to move here.
Gr8 info MrGeoff
At one time Louisville considered a large airport, but local politicians and landowners could not agree on a location. So Atlanta enlarged its airport first. And reaped the benefits.
Although Atlanta is obviously a larger airport, we do have the largest UPS hub on earth in Louisville. Still a great industry which many Kentuckians benefit from. They’ll even pay for your college!
@@andycockrum1212 Yes...but we could've and should've gotten BOTH. I'm from Louisville and I live in Atlanta now. I knew an executive at UPS and I asked, when UPS moved their HQ to Atlanta from Connecticut why didn't Louisville get the HQ. Their answer was, "Brainpower." Louisville didn't and still doesn't have enough college graduates. Major corporations look at college matriculation rates when they decide where they want to locate. Nashville and Atlanta have large college-educated populations. Louisville is growing but still behind. Weak politicians should have forced Standiford Field to expand back in the 70s and when they saw the end of industrialization coming they should have started pushing education. They were too reliant on all those factories and when they started closing one by one in conjunction with the decline of coal and the death of big tobacco...they were left holding the bag. Manufacturing is coming back...but not at the same salaries they had in the 60's and 70's they are inching there...but the state has to diversify its economy with more knowledge-based jobs.
Don’t see how an airport in Atlanta, Georgia would drastically affect Louisville, Kentucky, especially since Atlanta is on the other side of the Appalachian Mountains. If anything, Memphis, Tennessee would have a larger impact being on the same side of the Appalachian Mountains, along the Mississippi River, and centrally located in the United States.
@@ceasetheday87They also have the busiest cargo hub in the world with Fed Ex
atlanta is a 9 hour drive. No overlap.
I live in KY and Kentucky's biggest problem with growth is that the higher ups only focus on the bluegrass region. Tennessee has at least one "big" city in each part of the state, (ie Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville, Chattanooga). The leaders of KY only really focus on the bluegrass region because it has Louisville, Frankfort, and Lexington and not really anything more. If the government would put some effort into bringing more jobs in eastern KY like eastern TN has done, it would be just as beneficial. As for western KY, there are a lot of mid sized cities that have a lot of potential, such as Bowling Green, Paducah, and Owensboro, but the government doesn't seem to be too interested in them :/
In kentucky everything is all about corrupt politics
Unless you repeal the Jones act Paducah has no potential. Look at their population trend. It will be Cairo, Ill in 100 years.
Most Kentuckians do not want growth!! Caliyankees have destroyed Tennessee we do not want here!!!
Is it possible that you aren't considering how resistant to change Kentuckians are? All those things you said have been tried, and shut down by the citizens. They don't want or like change and don't want to better themselves?
Excellent video. Thanks, Geoff! Liked, subscribed, commented :)
I live in KY Bowling Green to be exact m, which is the 3rd largest city. It has gotten so crazy here with how rapid our town has developed and grown in the last 5-10 years. We’re in a great location though, where you can drive about 30 minutes and be in an area of nothing but fields as far as you can see, or go the opposite route 30-45 minutes and be in downtown Nashville.
As a Tennesseean, I can say the real answer.
The Californians.
If you live in Southern Ky or Middle TN you know that this is correct answer hahaha
Also as someone who lives in TN they seriously need to fuck off. They voted for the BS policies that destroyed CA we do not need them voting for the same BS here. Find a different state to destroy.
Don't envy you that one. 😂
What’s wrong with the people from California?
@aliciarebecca Nothing personally, its just a joke around here that all the Californians moving to TN are "overcrowding" and "ruining" the state.
(Especially the housing prices)
Kentuckians like our rural culture just as is. Most people who visit here, like the landscape, but find trying to live outside of a city too foreign to them. Kentucky has only two cities which most non criminals are vacating. Also, even most people not from these parts, would even consider living in them. Those two cities are Louisville and Lexington. So why would someone not consider living in them? Louisville has turned in to the crime and murder culture of our state. It's not even a very big city, so not much space to live there without being subjected to it. TRUTH. Now, Lexington is more rural and not as dangerous. But .... it has very few job opportunities. That leaves "rural" Kentucky, which most people are not able to identify with us good ole' boys and girls, (THE CULTURE SHOCK) .... and honestly, we like it like that. All changes we have seen happen in our state, have never been for the better. Just look at Louisville. Used to a safe, clean, low crime city. Now? Disgusting. We country types in the rural areas are happy, self defended, and want to stay that way. Come visit, but politely go home. ;) A country boy will survive. If you don't appreciate that attitude, that is precisely why people don't like us, and we take no insult.
Agreed. Visit and go home. We work and go home and work some more. Huntin fishin god fearing people that self protect our own.
Totally Agree with u on Louisville as I live here ....thinking of going back to my hometown (Berea) or close to it. Louisville has gotten very bad and is surpassing other high crime areas. 😳
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I love Kentucky I committed a crime when I was 18 got eight years for because Kentucky is hard on criminals but once I got out, I never committed another crime. I love Kentucky with all my heart will never leave.
You sound like you worked it out and became a good fit, so ... welcome to the good ol' grounds of gitt'n er done. 😉@@kingxxmeatkingxxmeat9071
Great job on pronunciation, pennyroyal and Louisville often identify outsiders but you nailed them both.
Lived in Tennessee my entire life. And over those 37 years it's insane how much my town/city has grown, especially since the year 2000 and then again after COVID. It's went from like 40k ppl in my town and the surrounding areas it's the hub for, to 150k as of the 2020 census, and I know it's more now. Nashville which is about 80ish miles from me has also grown a crazy amount in the same time and so has it's surrounding cities like Murfreesboro.
You should have added a blurb about the Madrid Bend. It looks like it's supposed to be part of TN but is part of KY for some reason.
It's because the river changed course after an earthquake, cutting off a chunk of land from the rest of the state.
To add to @blisterbrain the Ohio River also has changed course with parts of Kentucky on accessible through Ohio or Indiana. As parts of Tennessee are in Arkansas.
The New Madid Quake was one of the biggest to hit the US it is said the Mississippi even flowed backwards because of it.
@@GhostRider-sc9vu Yes. Accounts of it are truly terrifying, it seemed like Armageddon, and the tremors and aftershocks were brutal and continued for a long time. So many people wound up fleeing that the area was basically depopulated. They just couldn't take it.
It will happen again someday, too. We can only hope not soon, because there's a lot more people there now, and nothing is really built to withstand quakes unlike in California or Japan.
1:10 The whole north border of Tennessee is 425 miles I guess, but only about 325 of it is shared with Kentucky and 100 miles with Virginia.
"only"? that's 76%
Myself Im currently living Kentucky… my dad was originally from Alaska, my momma was from West Virginia. Definitely enjoying the country side where I’m located in Adair county.
Hello awesome videos.
Can you please think about making a video of Singapore? My second home to Chicago. Thank you.
Usually Tennessee keeps its roads better paved and we put high speed internet all over the state to include all the rural area to have high speed cable access. Kentucky struggles having internet outside cell phone or sat unless in a city (Or a metro area like Bowling Green/ Hopkinsville, etc) I often drive from East of Knoxville to Paducah, Kentucky Both states have cruddy roads right now and Nashville is growing too fast to maintain the infrastructure growth to adequate speeds, imo.
Depends on where you are. My rural phone cooperative in KY has had high-speed internet with fiber to every home in four counties since the early 2010s.
We are an hour outside bg and hoptown and we have had fiber internet for years.
Last spring I visited Ky and the Mammoth Cave national park. Nice people and great place to vacation
That is a great location in Kentucky.
Both lovely states and a lot of insightful comments from TN and KY residents
Most people I know in TN wish the population would stop growing. Crime rate has gone up in my surrounding area, and many parts of the state are not as affordable to live in as they once were.
Coming from New England we initially considered Kentucky, but after lots of research ultimately decided on NE Tennessee. Very happy here.
Being your from New England 🤮 this Kentuckian is happy about that too!..Thank Y'all so much! 😊
A few things that you didn't mention but are probably some of the most important factors:
1: Post Civil War, KY was treated poorly by both southern and northern states for their failure to pick a side. Both sides pushed economic policies and actions that would leave KY benefiting less.
2. During the early years of industrialization, KY's main means for shipping goods where by train. The main line ran from Louisville to Nashville. Once in one of those two cities, good could then be loaded onto boats and moved out. However, their were limited tain lines running from eastern KY which made getting goods to the L&N a logistical nightmare. Eastern TN had the advantage of being able to use the Cumberland and Tennessee Rivers as transportation corridors. The eventual creation of the TVA and their locks and dams would dramatically increase their productivity and leaving KY behind.
I live in kentucky, and I love it here. I travel all over the country for work, and I haven't found a single place I'd rather be.
I'm in urban Northern Kentucky and not many do move here overall, but I have noticed a decent amount of Nashville natives moving here the last couple years while that area has been growing so much.
The TVA created electricity. Electricity helped create two major industries that helped to win WW2. Oak Ridge National Lab which made the plutonium for the first Atomic bonds, and The Aluminum factors in Alcoa, just south of Knoxville. Yes, the city is named after Alcoa Aluminum which was one of the largest employers in the region for years.
Born and raised in East Tennessee and couldnt be more proud of it. That being said, if I was forced to move out of state, Eastern KY would be first place I would look for a home cause the people and geography are so much like me and like home. My ancestral lines trace back thru E.TN, E. KY, W.NC, N. Ga. SW VA. and N. Al. We've got our issues as a region, but I wouldn't live anywhere else but the Appalachia region of America. I know I got off main topic lol 🤷🏻
Atlanta had a boom where many companies set up shop there. Now they're moving out of Atlanta and moving to Memphis, TN. Give it a few more years and those same companies in Memphis will find another place to move.
Being a life long TN native. The growth and influx in transplants has made me want to leave my home state more and more. Its beginning to be unrecognizable from what it was even 20years ago and it breaks my heart
That's true! Where I grew up people waved at each other. Not anymore. I've always lived in small towns. Right now I'm waiting for the economy to improve so I can find a new home. Hopefully still in Tennessee. I've lived in mostly in middle Tennessee. I'm living in a tiny house now. I was living in Silver Point. Californians are moving there. Same thing happened. No more waving, not knowing your neighbors. Sad!
Agree, transplants move here supposedly because they like the area and then first thing they do is try to make things like where they moved from.Less waving n knowing neighbors n more rules controlling others lives and stress!
Plus gentrification. I want TN to get an income tax now becasue that’s what making all these people come here like sharks to take advantage of lower average income states.
Same with Asheville
I'm a native here in North Georgia, and I feel exactly the same...go in a store, you don't know hardly anybody anymore, hear everyone speaking with accents that are distinctly NOT southern, or Appalachian, insane amounts of traffic, infrastructure won't keep up with it, all the billboards plastered with the faces of smiling real estate agents, and land/house prices so high locals have no hope of buying anymore, and those who already owned can't afford the property taxes anymore...
Nashville (and Austin, TX) have been going through the massive growth period of being an "in" place to move to for a while now. Both unrecognizable from the towns they were 20 years ago. Atlanta, Denver, and Phoenix went through kind of the same surge of growth in recent decades. But these things go through cycles, eventually home prices push people further out until another metro area starts to look good. And as commuters in Denver know, being the popular place to relocate to is not always a positive.
It's DEFINITELY not a positive.
It’s ruined south Florida.
For some reason I've always found it hard to believe that Johnny Depp is from Kentucky.
He should make a film with George Clooney and Jennifer Lawrence.
@@SJPace1776 - Sadly, too late to include Harry Dean Stanton.
If you're traveling through Cynthiana Kentucky, stop by the Walking Dead mural. The creator Robert Kirkman is from Cynthiana.
@@Liberty4Ever and Jim Varney. RIP
@@harryballsak1123 - And crazy Ashley Judd.
That's the thing about Kentucky....people leave.
Anyone with brains looks talent Et cetera Doesn't hang around ky..
no 1 wins the lottery and moves to Kentucky. The people that enjoy the most are the old money rich people that run everything.
Living my whole life in these two states, I found this video very interesting and well done. Historically, one aspect not touched on though was the “great migratjon” from eastern KY to the north (in my grandmother’s generation) for out of work miners looking for jobs in the factories, lots ended up in Chicago, Cincinnati, etc. Then subsequent hits to the mining industry caused the eastern KY population to dwindle. As mentioned in the video, there is not as much diversification of industry in most areas of KY. That coupled with less interstate access and poor internet/communication capabilities in some areas, it’s hard to fairly compare eastern KY to eastern TN.
Been a lifelong Memphian but have family in Kentucky so i go visit often I really love both states
Some years ago I had a dream where I moved to Kentucky with some friends. Don't really know why. I remember that I went out of the house and starting walking beside a river that went through the neighborhood
Out of the Army, I wanted to move to Louisville so badly. I am actually glad that plan didn't work out for me.
The Volunteer State have a lot of major metro areas to stay in such as Nashville, Chattanooga, Memphis, and Knoxville, just to name a few and many major cities in Tennessee are very connected. Kentucky have a few major metro areas with high population like Louisville, Lexington, and the suburbs in NKY near Cincy.
Gee, you are repeting what he said in the video. ka-DOINK!
@@jazzcatt, tell you what. It's interesting to know why Tennessee is growing that fast unlike Kentucky. Tennessee is safer than Kentucky. The only best places to live in Kentucky is NKY and Lexington. Avoid Louisville. In Tennessee, avoid Memphis a lot and also avoid Chattanooga. Stay in the suburbs of Nashville.
@@CrystalClearWith8BEIs Chattanooga that bad?
@@ChristopherX30 Not nearly as bad as Memphis, but it's not great.
@@CrystalClearWith8BETennessee is way more dangerous than Kentucky huh? Tennessee rank 3rd in murder rate & crime
Doing puzzle maps of the USA as a little kid I always thought that Kentucky and and Tennessee when stacked on eacjhlooked like a killer wale breaching with its mouth open.
Good stuff Geoff. Taxes definitely seem to play a role, as does the broad Tennessee Valley in East Tennessee.
Without it the state populations would likely be similar as East Tennessee would be similar geographically to eastern Kentucky.
I’ll take either one over NY.
The yanks ruin every state they flee too
Same, ny sucks
I left NY for TN in 1995. NY political figures and elitists force their notion of superiority on the South and rest of nation but they are the ones who are arrogant bigots with poor economic policy.
Same
Tennessee: we're full. Scram.
Not west TN, if anything the population has fallen. Not that it's worth living there
@@harryballsak1123 We have enough migrants. And Nashville has become a miserable place to go.
@@harryballsak1123 Memphis area has exploded. Jackson area is exploding.
@@jr642 define "exploding" I live an hour from Jackson. Madison County TN pop 2010 - 98,294; 2020 - 98,823. Shelby County TN oop 2010 - 927,644; 2020 - 929,744. That's "exploding?"
@@jr642 My joke reply "If Memphis did explode, it would be no loss as it is the largest city in Mississippi" was censored. The algorithm has no sense of humor.
I live in a small town in Kentucky. In ways it feels much bigger, because there's not any other bigger towns near by for people to do business in. But it's still small. However, if i want to go to the city, St. Louis, Nashville, and Cincinnati are all very short car rides away. I love it here.
I really enjoyed this presentation. I grew up in Kentucky and visited most of Tennessee. Both great states to visit. It's a different pace of life in Western Kentucky.
I also grew up in West KY and have never found another place quite like it. If it weren't for work I would move my family to the lakes.
I live in Virginia. I'm a IBEW Electrician. Property is cheaper and they have a good living of standard in Kentucky. I know so many Indianapolis elections that are members of IBEW local 369. Yes, I know because I've lived in Elizabethtown Kentucky for 10 months.
How’s the cost of Gas, food, commodities in Kentucky vs Virginia? We live in Virginia btw
As a born, bred & still resident East Tennessean, I can answer this w 2 reasons pretty much. The first being that Tennessee has no state income tax. The second reason is a bit more complicated w plenty of smaller nuanced reasons behind its being one of the 2 main reasons & it’s Nashville. The home of the country music industry that has turned its back on the actual authentic country that made it Music City in the first place.
Edit: How dare you say Tennessee is “a little bit North”! I don’t believe I’ve ever felt more personally offended by something said in a UA-cam video. I’ve been all over this country & much more than I’ve done that, I’ve been all over this state & while there are some noticeable differences between the 3 regions, none of them are so vast that anywhere within them could anyone, within reason, say it felt northern there. 🤦🏻♀️
Tennessee has a 9% sales tax, Kentucky has 6%, we get a lot of people from TN doing their shopping in KY for the cheaper tax
Love it here in Kentucky. I love that I can count my neighbors on one hand as we are in a rural farming community.
Kentucky's problem is corruption in its largest city as well as a lack of transportation infrastructure in that same city. Bc of the corruption...
Yeah, I mentioned all of that. Nobody wants to talk about that though.
Big cities are always cess pits. Doesn't matter what state.
Yeah cause only corruption is in Kentucky.
It's also known as blue state. Not friendly to businesses. It's beautiful land.
KY is a red state. Our legislature has a Republican supermajority.
My family has owned a fairly large track of land on Lake Cumberland In Kentucky since the 1800's. In which people from out of state are trying to buy constantly. Do yourself a favor You'll hate it here stay away. Huge fresh water reservoirs everywhere, low property taxes, friendly people, fairly mild winters, mountains, rivers, lower than most of the country in the cost of living, The home of bourbon and the thoroughbred, awesome college basketball.... Like I said ,You'll hate it here please stay away..LOL!
As a life-long Kentuckian who has many friends in Tennessee, I can say without reservation that I am glad most Tenesseans don't live in our beloved Commonwealth.
Lived in paducah 21 years and it has grown!! New houses being built everywhere. New businesses sprouting up as well and a brand new huge elementary school as well.. yes we are growing ! But i still like that hometown feeling it still has!! And hope to keep it that way.. oh cost of living is cheaper than St louis but traffic can be crazy lol !! I can drive 10 minutes and im in the country... its just beautiful here ..
I'm a Oregonian, but I love both of these states, they actually remind me the most of the PWN from every other state I've been to.
Just weeks away from Thunder over Louisville
To be extremely pedantic. The footage you showed at 5:18 was actually a north Carolina town: Lake Junaleska. Not a Tennessee community
This whole channel is pedantic
It does say "great Smoky Mountains" tho and that looks exactly like a few places in TN
It is quite literally on the other side of a 20 foot river. 😂
I thought that looked like Junaleska too.
Love your channel. I am a geography nerd 10:59 . Ill keep watching.
True. I own 355 acres in these beautiful rolling hills of Kentucky. Love it here. Love Tennessee too. Both states are great. Nashville is getting crowded tho
It's hard to build on the side of a hill.
In which state? Tennessee has more mountains and just as many hills as Kentucky. The only areas of both states that don't have as many hills is the western areas.
@@jeremiahallyn4603 he says in the video that Tennessee has wider valleys than Kentucky.
There's a Country music song in there somewhere.
"It's hard to build a thrill/ On the side of this Kentucky hill."
In many small Kentucky towns, the valley is barely wide enough for a road. The buildings back up against the base of the mountains, and many of the buildings (and yes, trailers) have tall stilts on the side facing the road. Many of these one road towns in eastern Kentucky are always dirty with the grime of coal trucks and lumber trucks driving through town nonstop. There is usually a convenience store that will make you a Hunt Brothers pizza.
I grew up in southeast Kentucky and my mom still lives there. The mountains there are called the Cumberland mountains, basically the foothills of the Appalachians. Every few hundred feet of those mountains you come to a flat and those flats are where people build their homes. My mom’s house is at about 1600 feet in elevation. She’s at the last flat however that’s suitable for a house and yard.
Me and my husband went for a weekend getaway to Louisville KY. We were shocked by all the drug dealers downtown. They all were on every corner. Sometimes riding bikes, or hover boards. All of them were white and had backpacks on. Lots of homeless people going back and forth, conversing with the people with backpacks. Then junkies rolling around on the ground holding their stomachs. You know what else was strange. City leaders or council members walking right by it all. Smiling and welcoming people, literally walking over fetanayl addicted people on the street. Not one cop showed up to arrest all those drug dealers with backpacks on. Me and my hubby were so sad that this was allowed to happen. I mean the city representatives pretended it didn't exist. That to me, isn't caring for others or promoting a friendly, safe city environment. We won't be back.
If you go to Kentucky, don’t go to Louisville. It is the worst place in the state by far. I live 50 miles away from it and it’s perfect here.
Almost every major city in the country is like that unfortunately
Where were you at? I am from Louisville, but I live in Atlanta and I have not seen that when I go home to visit in Louisville or in Atlanta. If you want to see homelessness, come to Atlanta. I can't recall seeing open-air drug deals in Louisville, but I have in Atlanta.
As a lifelong Kentuckian, I am embarrassed by Louisville. It has had its share of problems but it has developed big city problems to a much greater extent in the last several years. I was born in eastern Kentucky and moved to Lexington to attend college in 1978 and have been here since that time. Lexington is starting to get its share of big city problems now as well, but not nearly to the extent of Louisville, Cincinnati, Atlanta, etc. I avoid Louisville. I recommend you do too.
Louisville just keeps getting worse. I've watched it decline my whole life.
I live in Oak Ridge. TN 20 minutes from Knox Ville. I retired down here and its been great,
I've lived in Lexington since the 1990s but my home town is Brevard NC, which is in Transylvania county....and Lexington has a Transylvania University...that blew my mind when I first moved here.