kickstarter backer for the switch here - absolutely heartbreaking to see the game released in this state for us! that said i’m so grateful for you josh for releasing videos like this because it tells me to do something different with my afternoon! i’ll wait for a patch or two before tackling this game…
@@JoshGamingGarden You can contact Nintendo for a refund on broken/unplayable or not as described games BTW, if you didn't know. It's not an option in the eshop but you can message them.
I truly hope Sun Haven devs will see this. I was so incredibly excited to play this game on the switch with my husband. I am so incredibly disappointed, but I am so grateful for your video, Josh! ❤
Bad layout, bad quality checks, bad returns...I miss how the 3ds one worked so much every day (I say no returns but I'm pretty sure that person who had their fish accidentally make purchases got one? Or at least I hope so, I feel like exceptions can be made for things like that despite policy)
"a bit" is doing some dang heavy lifting here, even without the No Refunds Ever For Any Reason policy it's frankly shameful Nintendo thinks it's okay as any sort of storefront. 😬
@BJGvideos There's a UA-cam channel (the name escapes s me atm but looking up "fish plays pokemon should work" where someone managed to get a setup going that let's their pet fish play pokemom. They were doing a scarlet/violet run when they'd managed to hit the home button and pull up the eshop before adding funds with the credit info on it
i mean for people who really know whats going on and accoding to reviews they did not credit their artists in the credits and use AI for translations which results in awful translations so im not surprised. They hate artists all around and are way more greedy than most non publisher indie games with cozy games
Got called toxic by Pixel Sprout Studios Stans and now, I wonder where those people are now that the switch port has released in this state. Always a red flag when a team releases DLC or Micro transactions before critical functions for a game/QA. I’m glad I’m not alone in this, it really is sad because there is a foundation of a great game, but it is just marred by bad business practices and bugs. 😢
@ yup, they refer to it as ‘DLC’ but it is a combination of cosmetics, pets, and mounts. All of which could have been included in the game (especially with the low amount of pets available in game).
Sadly I'm not surprised at all. The game is also still buggy on pc and controls on steam deck are clunky. The devs sadly feel a bit sketchy cuz they keep releasing paid cosmetics but don't focus on fixing the obvious problems. It's sad cuz the game is so cute and promising 😞
I bought this game on the switch yesterday, and it's crazy that my gameplay experience has been almost identical. Which is really sad, since I've never played or watched anything on it before, just heard positive things! Like literally down to the crash in the opening and then not being able to move for a couple seconds when you come back, my 2nd crash was when I went to Lucia's house, no huge assets on my end but instead the floor was just entirely white, and it crashed when I left. And then I also crashed the first time going to dragons meet like?? 3 crashes in almost all the exact same ways...they definitely have to fix it
If so many people are having these same issues, I wonder how much playtesting they did... 🤔 I know they are working on a patch now, so hopefully at least the crashes should get resolved.
I loved Sun Haven when it was still in early access and played a few dozen hours. Then it "released" and they immediately churned out so many cosmetic DLCs and it gave me such a bad taste in my mouth that I dropped the game completely. Especially after the reports of endless bugs, the lack of updating the game to have a coherent style between characters and just adding more content without fixing the old. It's really disappointing to see how they don't even credit their overworked employees, but not surprising. The awful switch port is just the cherry on top.
"If you're listening to this video as a background..." That's me! LMAO! Thanks for the heads up. I always enjoy listening and watching your reviews! 😆💕
Ugh… I feel for my switch friends. I waited so long to play this and finally picked up a steam deck this last summer. I just don’t understand why games are released in this state.
Because publishers know most people won't refund a broken game. They'll wait for a patch and end up keeping the game so long they'll be outside of their refund window.
@@planescaped While the Switch is underpowered a lot of the problems from games ultimately come down to the devs not optimizing. Look at something like Mortal Combat 1 which was just dumped onto the system as compared to a game like Dave the Diver which took a bit longer to release on Switch but ran smoothly on the system
Money. The longer the game has to be worked on the more money is spent. So companies, punlishers, or devs release the game to make money and patch it later.
Been on the fence about getting this game on switch.. It's so sad how many games seem to be an awful experience on this console. Thanks for the review. :((
not nearly as egregious as this, but omw Paleo Pines runs absolutely *atrocious* on switch, when it should be like, the best suited handheld game for cold nights in bed. 😭
There is absolutely NO REASON why the game should run poorly on the switch, other than really crappy coding. It should not be taxing on the system whatsoever. As someone who's been playing the game since it came out, it does annoy me that the development team spent more time on an irritating new company animation logo than fix some really irritating bugs or roll out some QOL updates.
I'd refer you to BeatEmUps video on the Estore. The whole thing sucks, so it's hardly surprising there's no QA on it. Even when it comes to filtering out, uh, "Adult content" games, even if you make a child's account, they still make it through regular, and you'd think a company obsessed with it's image and family content as Nintendo would stop that, but they haven't bothered.
That's not true, everything must go through submission. I guess the submission process is lacking in quality though. The crashes should have resulted in a failure.@@Alfredopizzaluver151
@@Alfredopizzaluver151 Considering there are still no refunds across the board on Switch, one would assume they have to have somebody vetting the games. They're just doing it very badly I guess.
@@planescapedEvery game has to go through cert and Nintendo is more thorough and tedious than other publishers. So, for shovelware and AI corn to continually fill up the eShop, there is clearly something terribly wrong with Nintendo's cert process.
1:12 - I have never seen that screen so much in my life before playing this game on Switch. I too was salivating for a Switch port...and it could not have possibly been worse. So disappointed that this was allowed to be shoved out of the oven. I used to work at Microsoft Game Studios as well as 2K, and this stuff would not have gotten through 2 seconds of Certification. I guess that's what passes for playable for some developers nowadays...
Sun Haven has been on my wishlist on Steam for years and years. But I never have gotten it, because every time I look at the reviews, people are complaining about them not fixing essential, long standing problems. Based on that, I HIGHLY doubt multiplayer will ever come out for the Switch. If somehow it does, I expect that it will be riddled with problems as well.
Great. I paid for this game years ago for the Switch version on Kickstarter. I bought 2 keys one for me and one for a friend so we could play multiplayer together. I'm still waiting on my keys for the game.
not gonna lie, after the shady stuff around the lying and lack of credits and price difference, it feels like they took one look at the eShop "No Refunds Ever For Any Reason" policy and went "heck yeah!" and this is why we use steam, everyone. heck, even other consoles will refund if the game is broken enough, and I can't see that mess and constant crashing not being enough of an example to get one. except then Nintendo might have to refund their own buggy tech demos masquerading as entries in building-dollar game series.
I have 112 hours on the steam version too and did really like the game, there's so much good there and it's truly fun with a friend. The pixel art is wonderful and it has good unique features. But after the initial enjoyment it really started sinking in how scewed the priorities are for the development of this game. A major update bringing 25 new DLC packs and really no actual new content aside from gameplay tweaks is an absolute joke about greed when the game is still quite buggy even on PC, does not have proper controller support and the switch port ends up shipping out in this state. I feel truly bad for anyone who's only option is on the switch, but hey at least it doesnt have the absolute bloat of cosmetic DLC to tempt anyone to waste more.
With minor bugs I can live but crashes are an absolute no go! Had several playing Potion Permit on the Switch and it just gives me anxiety thinking it might crash at any moment and make me lose my progress
Thank you as always for the honest review! I dropped this game when the DLCs started rolling in, but i was genuinely hoping to be able to pick it back up later, because there were fun bits. I'll check again in a year or so lol!
I'm so confused how they can charge more than 20 bucks for games like this. Like yeah I'm sure it can be hard for indie developers to port to Switch but at least have the game function. After seeing how crappy this port is, I dunno if I want to try the PC version either. They are out of their minds releasing this in this state.
i'm glad i saw your video before i grabbed it on switch! i hope this will be fixed soon. i feel really bad for everyone who has been waiting for it to release on the switch. it seems like a lot of my favorite cozy games on steam are cursed when it comes to the switch port (looking at you my time series and coral island)
I was a KS backer for the switch, during COVID I asked if I could switch my keys to Steam and they refused. Now I find out the two copies I bought that are trapped on switch may never get multiplayer. So I basically got scammed
Cassette Beasts is another pixel game on Switch and while the game is really good - the load times are frequent and jarring. Not as long as this but yea - other games you would expect would be easy to run are causing problems. It crashes too but not nearly as often as this does.
@@Nesdude42 I play CB on my computer, I think it's just like that. The game needs to load areas pretty frequently and it usually takes a few seconds. Love the game though.
Before you even laid out all the problems with the Switch version, all that DLC for the game on Steam was a huge red flag for the kind of people behind the game.
9:46 funny that an ad about cat food popped up just before your Kitty glitch segment. Thanks very much for making this video, I also have over 100 hours on this game in PC and was going to buy it for me and my sister to play since she doesn't have a good PC for Steam, very disappointed that we can't play this for a while longer.
i am really thankful for all the honest reviews... makes me avoid a lot of spendings that would have led me to be disappointed. A lot of disappointing games are releasing rn... it's so bad
Thank you for this video! I’ve been looking forward to SH coming to the switch, but now I know to wait until some of these issues are fixed. The constant crashes and the controllers not working properly is not acceptable for a game consumers have to pay $30+ for.
nintendo not allowing refunds is exactly why i will never buy another game on switch without watching at least 5 review videos first. they really allow anything in their shop. steam is a lot better when it comes to refunds
I waited for this game over a year for the switch as I'm not a pc player. It's so bitter sweet because sun haven has so many things i like. I wish they put in resources to fix the game.
That much lag in such a simple character creator? Daaaaang. I'd been low-key waiting for the Switch port to drop for ages but was already hesitant after reading about the troubled development and horrid controller support, so I'm not surprised by how sketch this seems. Guess I'll be waiting further to see if it ever gets patched up, but I won't be holding my breath.
These types of bugs and visual things happened early on for me on steam aswell after 36 or so hours of playing my house disappeared and I could no longer save basically ruining all of my progress. Idk if it's fixed now but that took it out of me wanting to play it again ;(
what's with the running theme of the console ports of these farm sims being complete disasters?? first sunnyside (which is at least in a better state than this and isn't even the fault of the devs, it's their publisher's fault) and now this 💀
@@AlexDayz some people experienced massive stuttering and lag issues, and some didn't - I personally never did, but because a good portion of people did have issues with RF5 on the Switch, that's kind of what it has been known for since release
I've been behind on games but have been wanting to give Luma Island or Sun Haven a try due to the multiplayer possibilities and with the Steam Fall Sale going on. I'm really glad I watched this video before following through. I would have loved to support an indie developer but the Switch release and things you mentioned about the studio's past decisions of the PC version are making me question it. I might just check out Luma Island or another life sim instead.
I’m a kickstarter backer and the lack of communication and overall product we’ve gotten is really disappointing. Same thing with Coral Island. I will never be backing any games ever again after this experience 😢
@@midgenya9479 Was it just cancelled so they can wait for the Switch 2? Or is it cancelled for any version of the Switch? Cause I can understand the first option so they don't have to potentially re-optimize the game a second time and presumably the Switch 2 will run the game better. The second option would be really disappointing though.
@@annienunyabiz6627 No their switch port was supposed to be done by the publisher (their pc programmer can't even get the pc version right and it's riddled with bugs dating back since EA....) but their publisher went bankrupt so now they can't port it to switch anymore. While this isn't exactly their fault, I still don't like the way they handled it. Instead of hiring some people to port they just decided to fk their switch backers over. lol.
The only games I back are from Pathea- The My Time At series. They are pretty good on their promises. It may take longer to get stuff done but they do everything they set out to do 100%. I have been disappointed with Coral Island as well.
I do love the game but it s so overwhelming it also makes no sense as to why they didn't give the player an option for pointy ears even if you are an elf,then they announced 25 dlcs
Jesus christ just when I didn't think this studio could get any worse they just. keep. going!! Every patch, every update is some new awful thing and this is just. I don't know I've run out of words for this absolute circus of a studio I can barely believe this
As someone who plays primarily on steam deck, I can see now it wasn't just me struggling with the built in controller support they provide now. I realize the only thing making it more 'playable' for me is being able to remap actions/templates and even then its still a bit wonkey. Overall I have been enjoying the game (Steam version) for the past year or so, having bought it at early access and having to take a long break from it since it seemed so bare bones and missed core features. I came back to it several months later and was pleasantly surprised with the updates, but the amount of DLC (and the pricing for it) really gave me some warning signs. I was actually excited to maybe have this running on switch now, but good to know its not worth it at this point. That 40 dollar price tag was def a shocker too!
Aww bummer! I was so hyped to play Sun Haven on switch! Thank you for your informed video. I hope it causes waves and the developers will get things resolved quickly. Cheers and best wishes!
I tried the PC version and I would have loved to give it back. I really think it's clunky and more flavour text than actually a good rounded experience.
Oh WOW Josh! Thank you so much for a comprehensive, honest review! Luckily I quit using my switch when I realized ALL games are better on the pc. I now own a PC and a Steam Deck and I never use my Switch except for when I play a Nintendo specific game that I couldn’t play otherwise. I’m so grateful that you have put this out there for those players who only have a Switch! Shame on that company for putting this out in this horrendous state. 🤦🏻♀
I love Sun Haven, but I only play it on PC (haven't tried it on switch). I don't know how big the development team is, but I hope they take feedback positively and strive to imporve their work. I understand that creating a game takes time and can be stressful for developers, but I hope this game keeps evolving. I really like the graphic style and overall gameplay.
So apparently the devs made an announcement that they’re aware of the issues, it just will take longer to fix on the switch due to Nintendo’s policies. So we should get a fix on this soon
sadly the devs got a track record of bad bugs sience a long while ago nothing they ever cook coomes out right at the start and it still kina werid to this day
Sun Haven fans are very hostile on Reddit. When I said I was not supporting a game that had launched sooooo many DLCs, I was being attacked with a ton of dislikes. LOL
After struggling with the wait time for switch games and how the games always come out on steam first, I eventually invested into getting the Steam Deck and I do not regret it. I was originally a switch customer for Sun Haven, but after the deck purchase, I got my game switched for Steam and it was great. Now, seeing how bad the switch version was, I am relieved with my choice.
I was really excited to play this game, especially since I like games that are exactly like this so like Stardew valley, Roots of Pacha and Potion Permit so I bought it as soon as I could, and it just constantly does that glitch and shuts down on me like every 15 to 20 minutes for me so it’ll shut down when I’m in the middle of a day and just it frustrates me at this point so I’m gonna stop playing it until the update the game and all the clunky interface glitches it has drives me crazy. I really hope they fix it soon
I wast just watching your full live stream playing it. I played Sun Haven until the fall of the first year, and I remember on Steam the beginning of the game is also quite boring because it's slow, but then it gets really cool when you gather enough mana to move around the scenario faster. I didn't find a way to get a mount cheaply, and I didn't feel motivated to look for it because there's so much information and stores with different things spread around the initial map that it's overwhelming. I really like how the NPCs have several different dialogues and even ask you questions, it increases the immersion a lot this time, but I had to play in English because the translation is impossible to understand sometimes. There was a controversy about them asking the players themselves to translate for free instead of using all the money they made with all those DLCs to hire real translators. Seriously, they sell the game with all those translations but most of them are very difficult to understand. Aside from that, for me, this game has almost infinite content. I highly recommend it to anyone who has a lot of time to spare because at the beginning everything is very slow, but it gets a lot better over time.
Since I can only play this game on switch i got it despite the crashes and I'm really enjoying it so far. At first I was relying on the auto save but when it crashed i lost a whole days progress. So now I just save and exit about every 30 min and haven't had a problem. Also when I do that it teleports me back home if I'm far away at night :)
Oh gosh. Im shocked by this.. i love this game. Im so sorry to my switch only players. I didnt know of most these issues. I love this game so i hope things get better.
sad noises. :C I had been hoping that the switch port would mean improvements to the controller system. Apparently not. A lot of the issues you experienced with the controls are issues that are present in the pc/steam version on controller already. And it's really sad to see that they didn't make any improvements to the system when porting it to a controller only console. Although, the most recent patch did update to allow for using certain items in the hotbar that were previously not working, such as skill books. But only some of them. Fished up treasure boxes still aren't working, lol. But the switch didn't get that patch update lol. But also, the janky targeting of tiles several squares away from your character, instead of the one right in front of you and the fiddly menu controls have been an issue for a long time. also, the graphical errors have been a thing too. I've not experienced anything quite so egregious as your Kitty situation. But I've had certain textures in the game replaced with other textures randomly. Such as the grass on my nelvari farm being replaced with random other textures. Usually blobs. sometimes housing items. Sometimes Snackoon Plushies (that was weird). I've also had several ground/plant textures shift off center from their location, and thus create a weird wrap around situation where half of them is cut off on the right but circles back around to the left. Like Claude's shrubs outside his house. Their back half is shift way over to the right, and cuts off abruptly, but their heads are coming in from the left side, with an empty space in between. I've had this happen with a couple of character sprites also. THAT was hella weird. And the white-square flashing has been a thing. The recent update was supposed to fix that, but I feel like I've been seeing it more since the patch actually. and it's really sad that they're treating the game this way. I like this game a lot. I've got nearly 200 hours in and I'm still having a good time. But it could be better if I didn't feel like I was fighting with the controls or needing to reset my game -- and sometimes validate my game files -- to fix the graphic errors. and it doesn't feel good that there's hundreds of dollars of cash dlc but they can't fix basic control issues.
Honestly I was worried how it would run on Switch because while it's a pixel art game, there's three farms, so many towns, and loaded with content to the point where it might as well be like a 3d port to the Switch lol. At least it looks decent on Switch, it will take a long time before it runs decent on Switch I think. The price tag seems to be a future phys release thing because $40 is normal indie phys game cost otherwise I feel like it should have been $25-30. I remember the controller for steam deck a few months ago were still kinda scuffed, not sure if they ever fixed that but it amazes me how long controller support was neglected for this type of game
Josh! Thanks so much for making a video about this! I was about to buy this on my Switch instead of my Mac, but thanks to you, I dodged a bullet and will get it on my computer once I make space 😅 tysm!!
Ironically this game is not perfectly optimized on PC too despite being a pixel game (I think they didn’t hear of the trick of limited moving sprites vs background image making it easier for the game to load), so porting it to Switch really must have been a tall order, especially if those responsible for the port aren’t well compensated. And I wonder if since the premiere of Swich 2 is soon, was the port made with it in mind rather than the old Switch? This kind of happened with the 3DS where games made specifically for New 3DS ran pretty poorly on the normal 3DS. Such a shame either way though, this game is great, even despite the shady devs.
It saddens me deeply to see how this has gone for Sun Haven, and honestly so much else since I last played. I put in a ton of hours on PC and fell absolutely in love with it, but since completing the game and moving on to other titles I haven't heard great things. Namely the complaints about DLC this and DLC that, which I only recently actually looked into and was shocked by (it reminded/reminds me of games like TheHunter: Call of the Wild and House Flipper, Sims, etc, where DLC after DLC is the name of the game). Now this? This is unacceptably bad. The unwillingness to add credits is also suspect to me. I really hope they do end up coming around towards the right path/right side of things, because the game itself is wonderful when done right. For now, though, what a bittersweet opinion I must hold.
I was so looking forward to playing this on the switch. Ended up crashing on me twice after I had almost completed a full day. Hopefully they patch soon because I really enjoyed the game.
A bit heartbreaking, been waiting for this game on switch for years. Purchased it yesterday and its unplayable in its current condition. Every time the game crashes, you lose 20mins of progress.
Honestly I am not surprised at all. The steam version already has issues that I doubt are ever getting fixed because the paid dlc has been deemed more important. The game not having credits is scummy as well.
It seems like every game that comes first on steam is a complete mess on the switch port, i dunno why, its sad because the switch is a good handheld but if everything is bugged i stick to steam and use my steamdeck.
... Thanks for the warning! Your videos are always so in-depth and answer a lot of questions I have without me having to ask them. I too am sad and really hope they manage to patch everything. This is a really fun game! But for now, I'll just stick to the PC version. When I hear things have improved I'll probably buy this version eventually. Especially (or exclusively) if they come out with multiplayer for it! Great video as always, thank you again.
100$ for DLC?! BRO... no i am not gonna support that hell no. i am glad you made this video, also the commenter who mentioned how these people are extremely shady, they need to be checked out by the police, that is not normal thing for customers/members for the games group to even state ☠️. furthermore... i will wait for a patch if it ever releases and if they even respond to the legit bug issues instead of sniffing money like doped up people on a feeding frenzy.. does that make sense? lol but yea .... this is sad i honestly wanted to fully try it out because my laptop couldnt run it but after waiting for so long.. its gross..this is not right.
You don't HAVE to buy the dlc. They are just cosmetic items you can buy if you want something extra fancy and they don't affect gameplay at all. There's nothing wrong with them releasing dlc for if you want to support them and also get some cool looking items in return. You are not meant to buy them all. Just the packs that suit your style.
@fiercediva135 that still does not change the fact that they shouldn't be a thing, it should be free since people supported /bought these peoples game already which i disagree with this being titled as dlc when it looks more aggressively like. microtransaction, now, if it were a normal dlc pack than fine sure but if it gets to this level its greedy and microtransaction territory. the last time i played my 3ds games to ps4 ones as well. cosmetics weren't seen as charged dlc rather free cosmetics to thank the customers for buying the developers game. I already know that there were dlc where they pushed cosmetics as payment back than, and again that is not dlc, there just mixing microtransaction tactic into dlc to make it into there own area of definition of what dlc is.. these greedy people are really trying to ruin the definition of dlc and it has always been a non supported corporate tactic they do. What real dlc is, its new stuff being added into a video games for example iceborn dlc from monster hunter world thats a legit dlc. thats worth the money not this.
@@PowerpuffSpiceGirlTechnically things like Iceborne would be an expansion. DLC (Downloadable content) is an accurate term for cosmetic packs, the issue is everyone just calls all add-on content DLC these days whether it's small or big. Microtransactions tend to refer to things you can buy in the game itself with real money. Even though the externally bought cosmetic packs are essentially the same thing.
@@JakXT Okay.. but its considered dlc..i have no idea where you got your information from but its inaccurate. an expansion is dlc... 🫠... no it isn't it has never been, because if that were the case than the dlc that i have had for my consoles would be strictly, going based off your own opinion here, cosmetics only. Which is wrong because microtransaction are that 100% of the time, bringing in items stuff that shouldn't be microtransaction at all nor sold seperately at all, into microtransaction when it should have been in the game to begin with your wrong. no, itis not smh ☠️ you cannot compare dlc an expansion that is new to the game itself whether it be; story, new chapters and quests, new dialogue for the character as well, custences that is essentially what dlcs bring in alot of content just like dark souls does to microtransaction... please dont blur the real definition of two things that are clearly different from each other. dlc is not microtransaction.
I originally played it at launch but after getting my saves wiped clean after every crash or reboot I had to uninstall which is a shame too because I can see the potential for it. I only played on Steam so I had no idea that the switch port would come out.
I really wanted to get this game, I really loved the art style because it reminded me of Gaia Online, it was on my wishlist for so long, and when they finally had a sale I was ready and willing to buy it on the spot. But something in the back of my mind was shouting at me to not purchase it. I looked at the reviews but they didn't seem too bad, but after sitting on it for awhile and then coming back to see all of those useless dlc packs and how the game kept getting even more broken with each update and how they haven't addressed the blaring glitches that haven't been fixed, really caused a downcast on the excitement I had for this game.
As much as I like Sun Haven the development team behind the game has been sketchy FOR YEARS. Sorry to the Switch only players.
It's such a shame because the game does seem fun
I m so fisappointed. I wanted to get it since months.
Yeah, it sucks. The game is SO fun. One of my favs but they really are sketch
It seems weird it runs so badly when it's a 2D game and Unity is usually used for Switch development.
Sketchy why 👀👀 I played sun haven on steam but havent touched it since last year, seems fine over there?
kickstarter backer for the switch here - absolutely heartbreaking to see the game released in this state for us! that said i’m so grateful for you josh for releasing videos like this because it tells me to do something different with my afternoon! i’ll wait for a patch or two before tackling this game…
Hey I worked on this game! Really funny video. What a mess of a release. thanks for bringing up the credits issue
I hope you get credited for your hard work soon! That is so odd. 😭
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You can contact Nintendo for a refund on broken/unplayable or not as described games BTW, if you didn't know. It's not an option in the eshop but you can message them.
I truly hope Sun Haven devs will see this. I was so incredibly excited to play this game on the switch with my husband. I am so incredibly disappointed, but I am so grateful for your video, Josh! ❤
There are working on a pach as we speak.
Sun haven devs are swapped like every month, even if they see it by the time theyre fired they wont be able to do anything about it
The eShop is a bit anti-consumer. I wish it would get the same return options as Steam, since so many games launch on the Switch in a terrible state.
Bad layout, bad quality checks, bad returns...I miss how the 3ds one worked so much every day
(I say no returns but I'm pretty sure that person who had their fish accidentally make purchases got one? Or at least I hope so, I feel like exceptions can be made for things like that despite policy)
It’s a shame cause it’s not like the switch can’t handle these things either. Not saying steam doesn’t have its issues but the lack of QC is rough
"a bit" is doing some dang heavy lifting here, even without the No Refunds Ever For Any Reason policy it's frankly shameful Nintendo thinks it's okay as any sort of storefront. 😬
@@silvermoon3717 wait how does a fish...
@BJGvideos There's a UA-cam channel (the name escapes s me atm but looking up "fish plays pokemon should work" where someone managed to get a setup going that let's their pet fish play pokemom. They were doing a scarlet/violet run when they'd managed to hit the home button and pull up the eshop before adding funds with the credit info on it
i mean for people who really know whats going on and accoding to reviews they did not credit their artists in the credits and use AI for translations which results in awful translations so im not surprised. They hate artists all around and are way more greedy than most non publisher indie games with cozy games
Yeah, it is weird that they keep releasing cosmetics DLC instead fixing bug, updating and adding new things in game.
Oh you were not kidding that it was worth giving the video my full attention for that Kitty segment.
Got called toxic by Pixel Sprout Studios Stans and now, I wonder where those people are now that the switch port has released in this state. Always a red flag when a team releases DLC or Micro transactions before critical functions for a game/QA. I’m glad I’m not alone in this, it really is sad because there is a foundation of a great game, but it is just marred by bad business practices and bugs. 😢
There's micro transactions in this game?!
@ yup, they refer to it as ‘DLC’ but it is a combination of cosmetics, pets, and mounts. All of which could have been included in the game (especially with the low amount of pets available in game).
Sadly I'm not surprised at all. The game is also still buggy on pc and controls on steam deck are clunky. The devs sadly feel a bit sketchy cuz they keep releasing paid cosmetics but don't focus on fixing the obvious problems. It's sad cuz the game is so cute and promising 😞
I bought this game on the switch yesterday, and it's crazy that my gameplay experience has been almost identical. Which is really sad, since I've never played or watched anything on it before, just heard positive things! Like literally down to the crash in the opening and then not being able to move for a couple seconds when you come back, my 2nd crash was when I went to Lucia's house, no huge assets on my end but instead the floor was just entirely white, and it crashed when I left. And then I also crashed the first time going to dragons meet like?? 3 crashes in almost all the exact same ways...they definitely have to fix it
If so many people are having these same issues, I wonder how much playtesting they did... 🤔 I know they are working on a patch now, so hopefully at least the crashes should get resolved.
You can contact Nintendo and ask for a refund if you're dissatisfied. Tell them game performance is crap and you can't play it on the switch.
As a switch backer from 2021, I have no words...
I got it defended the dev and title for benefit of the doubt. This legit shows I should never have done either.
fields of mistria rise up
The developers of this game are predatory and dishonest.
I loved Sun Haven when it was still in early access and played a few dozen hours. Then it "released" and they immediately churned out so many cosmetic DLCs and it gave me such a bad taste in my mouth that I dropped the game completely. Especially after the reports of endless bugs, the lack of updating the game to have a coherent style between characters and just adding more content without fixing the old. It's really disappointing to see how they don't even credit their overworked employees, but not surprising. The awful switch port is just the cherry on top.
"If you're listening to this video as a background..." That's me! LMAO! Thanks for the heads up. I always enjoy listening and watching your reviews! 😆💕
This video came at the right time because I had full intention of getting Sun Haven for the switch later this week. bless you for the video!
Ugh… I feel for my switch friends. I waited so long to play this and finally picked up a steam deck this last summer. I just don’t understand why games are released in this state.
I am so glad I gave in and got a steam deck, really don't know why I stuck with the switch for as long as I did.
Because publishers know most people won't refund a broken game. They'll wait for a patch and end up keeping the game so long they'll be outside of their refund window.
@@FREDERICKEUSEBIO-d3q No refunds on switch.
Typical "good guy" Nintendo.
@@planescaped While the Switch is underpowered a lot of the problems from games ultimately come down to the devs not optimizing. Look at something like Mortal Combat 1 which was just dumped onto the system as compared to a game like Dave the Diver which took a bit longer to release on Switch but ran smoothly on the system
Money. The longer the game has to be worked on the more money is spent. So companies, punlishers, or devs release the game to make money and patch it later.
I was so frustrated by the delay for EU regions. Turns out that was a blessing in disguise!
Really disappointing that this version is so bad, but enjoyed your review. xD "We all need a crash every now and then." SAME.
Been on the fence about getting this game on switch.. It's so sad how many games seem to be an awful experience on this console. Thanks for the review. :((
not nearly as egregious as this, but omw Paleo Pines runs absolutely *atrocious* on switch, when it should be like, the best suited handheld game for cold nights in bed. 😭
There is absolutely NO REASON why the game should run poorly on the switch, other than really crappy coding. It should not be taxing on the system whatsoever.
As someone who's been playing the game since it came out, it does annoy me that the development team spent more time on an irritating new company animation logo than fix some really irritating bugs or roll out some QOL updates.
Yikes... I don't know how this passed initial quality control to even make it onto the switch store.
I'd refer you to BeatEmUps video on the Estore.
The whole thing sucks, so it's hardly surprising there's no QA on it.
Even when it comes to filtering out, uh, "Adult content" games, even if you make a child's account, they still make it through regular, and you'd think a company obsessed with it's image and family content as Nintendo would stop that, but they haven't bothered.
That’s cause there is no control? The eshop lets buggy, crappy games in all the time.
That's not true, everything must go through submission. I guess the submission process is lacking in quality though. The crashes should have resulted in a failure.@@Alfredopizzaluver151
@@Alfredopizzaluver151 Considering there are still no refunds across the board on Switch, one would assume they have to have somebody vetting the games.
They're just doing it very badly I guess.
@@planescapedEvery game has to go through cert and Nintendo is more thorough and tedious than other publishers. So, for shovelware and AI corn to continually fill up the eShop, there is clearly something terribly wrong with Nintendo's cert process.
" Those zooms are really struggling " had me dying LMAOOO
Love that you recorded your trip to Glitch City!
Everyone, please don’t buy this game until they properly credit those who worked on this!
WOW....they did NOT test it at all. The final product is a perfect showing that they did not even play test it.
it's so ridiculous that games will price higher on switch AND they don't run properly. i gave up on the switch and bought a steam deck. zero regrets.
1:12 - I have never seen that screen so much in my life before playing this game on Switch. I too was salivating for a Switch port...and it could not have possibly been worse. So disappointed that this was allowed to be shoved out of the oven. I used to work at Microsoft Game Studios as well as 2K, and this stuff would not have gotten through 2 seconds of Certification. I guess that's what passes for playable for some developers nowadays...
Sun Haven has been on my wishlist on Steam for years and years. But I never have gotten it, because every time I look at the reviews, people are complaining about them not fixing essential, long standing problems. Based on that, I HIGHLY doubt multiplayer will ever come out for the Switch. If somehow it does, I expect that it will be riddled with problems as well.
Great. I paid for this game years ago for the Switch version on Kickstarter. I bought 2 keys one for me and one for a friend so we could play multiplayer together. I'm still waiting on my keys for the game.
not gonna lie, after the shady stuff around the lying and lack of credits and price difference, it feels like they took one look at the eShop "No Refunds Ever For Any Reason" policy and went "heck yeah!"
and this is why we use steam, everyone. heck, even other consoles will refund if the game is broken enough, and I can't see that mess and constant crashing not being enough of an example to get one. except then Nintendo might have to refund their own buggy tech demos masquerading as entries in building-dollar game series.
You can get a refund on switch if the game is broken enough. People got refunds when scarlet and violet arrived broken.
Next up! Pixel Sprout Studios copyright takedowns Josh's Gaming Garden video on Sun Haven to suppress negative reviews! More at 11.
With how much DLC they're making you'd assume they'd be making enough bank to hire more devs to push more content updates.
I have 112 hours on the steam version too and did really like the game, there's so much good there and it's truly fun with a friend. The pixel art is wonderful and it has good unique features. But after the initial enjoyment it really started sinking in how scewed the priorities are for the development of this game. A major update bringing 25 new DLC packs and really no actual new content aside from gameplay tweaks is an absolute joke about greed when the game is still quite buggy even on PC, does not have proper controller support and the switch port ends up shipping out in this state.
I feel truly bad for anyone who's only option is on the switch, but hey at least it doesnt have the absolute bloat of cosmetic DLC to tempt anyone to waste more.
Was so excited but so many DLC is a red flag
Straight up cash grab from the devs.
With minor bugs I can live but crashes are an absolute no go! Had several playing Potion Permit on the Switch and it just gives me anxiety thinking it might crash at any moment and make me lose my progress
Thank you as always for the honest review! I dropped this game when the DLCs started rolling in, but i was genuinely hoping to be able to pick it back up later, because there were fun bits. I'll check again in a year or so lol!
I'm so confused how they can charge more than 20 bucks for games like this. Like yeah I'm sure it can be hard for indie developers to port to Switch but at least have the game function. After seeing how crappy this port is, I dunno if I want to try the PC version either. They are out of their minds releasing this in this state.
i'm glad i saw your video before i grabbed it on switch! i hope this will be fixed soon. i feel really bad for everyone who has been waiting for it to release on the switch. it seems like a lot of my favorite cozy games on steam are cursed when it comes to the switch port (looking at you my time series and coral island)
I was a KS backer for the switch, during COVID I asked if I could switch my keys to Steam and they refused. Now I find out the two copies I bought that are trapped on switch may never get multiplayer. So I basically got scammed
I know the Switch isn’t a power house but it ought to be able to run a pixel game.
oh believe me it's not the switch's fault!
This is definitely not the switches fault LMAO. The switch sucks but it's not THAT bad. This is beyond pure laziness
Cassette Beasts is another pixel game on Switch and while the game is really good - the load times are frequent and jarring. Not as long as this but yea - other games you would expect would be easy to run are causing problems. It crashes too but not nearly as often as this does.
@@Nesdude42 I play CB on my computer, I think it's just like that. The game needs to load areas pretty frequently and it usually takes a few seconds. Love the game though.
The switch doesn’t suck. It was never ment to be a power house of a console.
Before you even laid out all the problems with the Switch version, all that DLC for the game on Steam was a huge red flag for the kind of people behind the game.
9:46 funny that an ad about cat food popped up just before your Kitty glitch segment. Thanks very much for making this video, I also have over 100 hours on this game in PC and was going to buy it for me and my sister to play since she doesn't have a good PC for Steam, very disappointed that we can't play this for a while longer.
maybe it was a blessing in disguise coral island cancelled their plan to port to the switch lol
Why?
i am really thankful for all the honest reviews... makes me avoid a lot of spendings that would have led me to be disappointed. A lot of disappointing games are releasing rn... it's so bad
9:31 I was listening to the video in the background... And what a surprise when i looked 💀
Thank you for this video! I’ve been looking forward to SH coming to the switch, but now I know to wait until some of these issues are fixed. The constant crashes and the controllers not working properly is not acceptable for a game consumers have to pay $30+ for.
nintendo not allowing refunds is exactly why i will never buy another game on switch without watching at least 5 review videos first. they really allow anything in their shop. steam is a lot better when it comes to refunds
I waited for this game over a year for the switch as I'm not a pc player. It's so bitter sweet because sun haven has so many things i like. I wish they put in resources to fix the game.
Ending the video with the Switch crash made me giggle
That much lag in such a simple character creator? Daaaaang. I'd been low-key waiting for the Switch port to drop for ages but was already hesitant after reading about the troubled development and horrid controller support, so I'm not surprised by how sketch this seems. Guess I'll be waiting further to see if it ever gets patched up, but I won't be holding my breath.
These types of bugs and visual things happened early on for me on steam aswell after 36 or so hours of playing my house disappeared and I could no longer save basically ruining all of my progress. Idk if it's fixed now but that took it out of me wanting to play it again ;(
what's with the running theme of the console ports of these farm sims being complete disasters?? first sunnyside (which is at least in a better state than this and isn't even the fault of the devs, it's their publisher's fault) and now this 💀
Don't forget the release of Rune Factory 5 on the Switch...
@@Mechonyo Rune Factory 5 runs fine on Switch though?
@@AlexDayz some people experienced massive stuttering and lag issues, and some didn't - I personally never did, but because a good portion of people did have issues with RF5 on the Switch, that's kind of what it has been known for since release
-you can't refund on switch- what huh who said that
I've been behind on games but have been wanting to give Luma Island or Sun Haven a try due to the multiplayer possibilities and with the Steam Fall Sale going on. I'm really glad I watched this video before following through. I would have loved to support an indie developer but the Switch release and things you mentioned about the studio's past decisions of the PC version are making me question it. I might just check out Luma Island or another life sim instead.
I quite enjoyed Luma Island for the few hours I played of it. It’s very unique! 😊
I’m a kickstarter backer and the lack of communication and overall product we’ve gotten is really disappointing. Same thing with Coral Island. I will never be backing any games ever again after this experience 😢
What's going on with Coral Island? I haven't heard any drama with that game
@@signofthecrimes1534 The switch port was cancelled, for now at least. But yeah🤕
@@midgenya9479 Was it just cancelled so they can wait for the Switch 2? Or is it cancelled for any version of the Switch? Cause I can understand the first option so they don't have to potentially re-optimize the game a second time and presumably the Switch 2 will run the game better. The second option would be really disappointing though.
@@annienunyabiz6627 No their switch port was supposed to be done by the publisher (their pc programmer can't even get the pc version right and it's riddled with bugs dating back since EA....) but their publisher went bankrupt so now they can't port it to switch anymore. While this isn't exactly their fault, I still don't like the way they handled it. Instead of hiring some people to port they just decided to fk their switch backers over. lol.
The only games I back are from Pathea- The My Time At series. They are pretty good on their promises. It may take longer to get stuff done but they do everything they set out to do 100%.
I have been disappointed with Coral Island as well.
I do love the game but it s so overwhelming it also makes no sense as to why they didn't give the player an option for pointy ears even if you are an elf,then they announced 25 dlcs
Jesus christ just when I didn't think this studio could get any worse they just. keep. going!! Every patch, every update is some new awful thing and this is just. I don't know I've run out of words for this absolute circus of a studio I can barely believe this
Good review. Was considering but I'm gonna wait for updates. 👍
Time to put this back in the oven. I was excited to see this in the Nintendo shop but I’m so glad I came across your video before I got it.
As someone who plays primarily on steam deck, I can see now it wasn't just me struggling with the built in controller support they provide now. I realize the only thing making it more 'playable' for me is being able to remap actions/templates and even then its still a bit wonkey. Overall I have been enjoying the game (Steam version) for the past year or so, having bought it at early access and having to take a long break from it since it seemed so bare bones and missed core features. I came back to it several months later and was pleasantly surprised with the updates, but the amount of DLC (and the pricing for it) really gave me some warning signs. I was actually excited to maybe have this running on switch now, but good to know its not worth it at this point. That 40 dollar price tag was def a shocker too!
Aww bummer! I was so hyped to play Sun Haven on switch! Thank you for your informed video. I hope it causes waves and the developers will get things resolved quickly. Cheers and best wishes!
I tried the PC version and I would have loved to give it back. I really think it's clunky and more flavour text than actually a good rounded experience.
Oh no no no….
Oh WOW Josh! Thank you so much for a comprehensive, honest review! Luckily I quit using my switch when I realized ALL games are better on the pc. I now own a PC and a Steam Deck and I never use my Switch except for when I play a Nintendo specific game that I couldn’t play otherwise. I’m so grateful that you have put this out there for those players who only have a Switch! Shame on that company for putting this out in this horrendous state. 🤦🏻♀
Noooo I'm devastated! I was really looking forward to it....
I love Sun Haven, but I only play it on PC (haven't tried it on switch). I don't know how big the development team is, but I hope they take feedback positively and strive to imporve their work. I understand that creating a game takes time and can be stressful for developers, but I hope this game keeps evolving. I really like the graphic style and overall gameplay.
Just start playing on pc and it is genuinely such a fun game with a cozy laidback atmosphere~ i am SO relieved i didnt play it on switch instead 😅
The crash sound at the very end! 😭
I have the game on pc and have been waiting for it to come to switch for so long ughhhh
So apparently the devs made an announcement that they’re aware of the issues, it just will take longer to fix on the switch due to Nintendo’s policies. So we should get a fix on this soon
sadly the devs got a track record of bad bugs sience a long while ago nothing they ever cook coomes out right at the start and it still kina werid to this day
Putting the blame for this on Nintendo is wiiiiild. Let me guess, they never worked with anything but steam in the past?
@@lengarion that seems to be the case.
Thanks for the review. I'll wait for updates or a sale since I'm still playing wylde flowers for the 2nd time.
Sun Haven fans are very hostile on Reddit. When I said I was not supporting a game that had launched sooooo many DLCs, I was being attacked with a ton of dislikes. LOL
After struggling with the wait time for switch games and how the games always come out on steam first, I eventually invested into getting the Steam Deck and I do not regret it. I was originally a switch customer for Sun Haven, but after the deck purchase, I got my game switched for Steam and it was great. Now, seeing how bad the switch version was, I am relieved with my choice.
I lowkey expected the port to be bad because of the track record they have on the pc version but lmao. They REALLY didn't give a sh*t huh....
I was really excited to play this game, especially since I like games that are exactly like this so like Stardew valley, Roots of Pacha and Potion Permit so I bought it as soon as I could, and it just constantly does that glitch and shuts down on me like every 15 to 20 minutes for me so it’ll shut down when I’m in the middle of a day and just it frustrates me at this point so I’m gonna stop playing it until the update the game and all the clunky interface glitches it has drives me crazy. I really hope they fix it soon
I wast just watching your full live stream playing it. I played Sun Haven until the fall of the first year, and I remember on Steam the beginning of the game is also quite boring because it's slow, but then it gets really cool when you gather enough mana to move around the scenario faster.
I didn't find a way to get a mount cheaply, and I didn't feel motivated to look for it because there's so much information and stores with different things spread around the initial map that it's overwhelming.
I really like how the NPCs have several different dialogues and even ask you questions, it increases the immersion a lot this time, but I had to play in English because the translation is impossible to understand sometimes. There was a controversy about them asking the players themselves to translate for free instead of using all the money they made with all those DLCs to hire real translators. Seriously, they sell the game with all those translations but most of them are very difficult to understand.
Aside from that, for me, this game has almost infinite content. I highly recommend it to anyone who has a lot of time to spare because at the beginning everything is very slow, but it gets a lot better over time.
what a bummer, really hope they get this fixed soon
Since I can only play this game on switch i got it despite the crashes and I'm really enjoying it so far. At first I was relying on the auto save but when it crashed i lost a whole days progress. So now I just save and exit about every 30 min and haven't had a problem. Also when I do that it teleports me back home if I'm far away at night :)
Im just going to stick with moonstone island and stardew valley. So many good games out there that dont crash.
Oh gosh. Im shocked by this.. i love this game. Im so sorry to my switch only players. I didnt know of most these issues. I love this game so i hope things get better.
sad noises. :C
I had been hoping that the switch port would mean improvements to the controller system. Apparently not.
A lot of the issues you experienced with the controls are issues that are present in the pc/steam version on controller already. And it's really sad to see that they didn't make any improvements to the system when porting it to a controller only console.
Although, the most recent patch did update to allow for using certain items in the hotbar that were previously not working, such as skill books. But only some of them. Fished up treasure boxes still aren't working, lol. But the switch didn't get that patch update lol.
But also, the janky targeting of tiles several squares away from your character, instead of the one right in front of you and the fiddly menu controls have been an issue for a long time.
also, the graphical errors have been a thing too. I've not experienced anything quite so egregious as your Kitty situation. But I've had certain textures in the game replaced with other textures randomly. Such as the grass on my nelvari farm being replaced with random other textures. Usually blobs. sometimes housing items. Sometimes Snackoon Plushies (that was weird). I've also had several ground/plant textures shift off center from their location, and thus create a weird wrap around situation where half of them is cut off on the right but circles back around to the left. Like Claude's shrubs outside his house. Their back half is shift way over to the right, and cuts off abruptly, but their heads are coming in from the left side, with an empty space in between. I've had this happen with a couple of character sprites also. THAT was hella weird.
And the white-square flashing has been a thing. The recent update was supposed to fix that, but I feel like I've been seeing it more since the patch actually.
and it's really sad that they're treating the game this way. I like this game a lot. I've got nearly 200 hours in and I'm still having a good time. But it could be better if I didn't feel like I was fighting with the controls or needing to reset my game -- and sometimes validate my game files -- to fix the graphic errors. and it doesn't feel good that there's hundreds of dollars of cash dlc but they can't fix basic control issues.
Honestly I was worried how it would run on Switch because while it's a pixel art game, there's three farms, so many towns, and loaded with content to the point where it might as well be like a 3d port to the Switch lol. At least it looks decent on Switch, it will take a long time before it runs decent on Switch I think. The price tag seems to be a future phys release thing because $40 is normal indie phys game cost otherwise I feel like it should have been $25-30. I remember the controller for steam deck a few months ago were still kinda scuffed, not sure if they ever fixed that but it amazes me how long controller support was neglected for this type of game
i've had tons of fun with sun haven but i have a bunch of weird quirks in my play style just to prevent crashes
Josh! Thanks so much for making a video about this! I was about to buy this on my Switch instead of my Mac, but thanks to you, I dodged a bullet and will get it on my computer once I make space 😅 tysm!!
Ironically this game is not perfectly optimized on PC too despite being a pixel game (I think they didn’t hear of the trick of limited moving sprites vs background image making it easier for the game to load), so porting it to Switch really must have been a tall order, especially if those responsible for the port aren’t well compensated. And I wonder if since the premiere of Swich 2 is soon, was the port made with it in mind rather than the old Switch? This kind of happened with the 3DS where games made specifically for New 3DS ran pretty poorly on the normal 3DS.
Such a shame either way though, this game is great, even despite the shady devs.
It saddens me deeply to see how this has gone for Sun Haven, and honestly so much else since I last played. I put in a ton of hours on PC and fell absolutely in love with it, but since completing the game and moving on to other titles I haven't heard great things. Namely the complaints about DLC this and DLC that, which I only recently actually looked into and was shocked by (it reminded/reminds me of games like TheHunter: Call of the Wild and House Flipper, Sims, etc, where DLC after DLC is the name of the game). Now this? This is unacceptably bad. The unwillingness to add credits is also suspect to me. I really hope they do end up coming around towards the right path/right side of things, because the game itself is wonderful when done right. For now, though, what a bittersweet opinion I must hold.
I was so looking forward to playing this on the switch. Ended up crashing on me twice after I had almost completed a full day. Hopefully they patch soon because I really enjoyed the game.
If updates make this better, I would love to know. At least this game seems better then orange season.
A bit heartbreaking, been waiting for this game on switch for years. Purchased it yesterday and its unplayable in its current condition. Every time the game crashes, you lose 20mins of progress.
The crash screen in the final second of the video sent me lmao
Honestly I am not surprised at all. The steam version already has issues that I doubt are ever getting fixed because the paid dlc has been deemed more important. The game not having credits is scummy as well.
It seems like every game that comes first on steam is a complete mess on the switch port, i dunno why, its sad because the switch is a good handheld but if everything is bugged i stick to steam and use my steamdeck.
... Thanks for the warning! Your videos are always so in-depth and answer a lot of questions I have without me having to ask them. I too am sad and really hope they manage to patch everything. This is a really fun game! But for now, I'll just stick to the PC version.
When I hear things have improved I'll probably buy this version eventually. Especially (or exclusively) if they come out with multiplayer for it! Great video as always, thank you again.
100$ for DLC?! BRO... no i am not gonna support that hell no. i am glad you made this video, also the commenter who mentioned how these people are extremely shady, they need to be checked out by the police, that is not normal thing for customers/members for the games group to even state ☠️.
furthermore... i will wait for a patch if it ever releases and if they even respond to the legit bug issues instead of sniffing money like doped up people on a feeding frenzy.. does that make sense? lol but yea
.... this is sad i honestly wanted to fully try it out because my laptop couldnt run it but after waiting for so long.. its gross..this is not right.
You don't HAVE to buy the dlc. They are just cosmetic items you can buy if you want something extra fancy and they don't affect gameplay at all. There's nothing wrong with them releasing dlc for if you want to support them and also get some cool looking items in return. You are not meant to buy them all. Just the packs that suit your style.
@fiercediva135 that still does not change the fact that they shouldn't be a thing, it should be free since people supported /bought these peoples game already which i disagree with this being titled as dlc when it looks more aggressively like. microtransaction, now, if it were a normal dlc pack than fine sure but if it gets to this level its greedy and microtransaction territory.
the last time i played my 3ds games to ps4 ones as well. cosmetics weren't seen as charged dlc rather free cosmetics to thank the customers for buying the developers game. I already know that there were dlc where they pushed cosmetics as payment back than, and again that is not dlc, there just mixing microtransaction tactic into dlc to make it into there own area of definition of what dlc is.. these greedy people are really trying to ruin the definition of dlc and it has always been a non supported corporate tactic they do.
What real dlc is, its new stuff being added into a video games for example iceborn dlc from monster hunter world thats a legit dlc. thats worth the money not this.
@@PowerpuffSpiceGirlTechnically things like Iceborne would be an expansion.
DLC (Downloadable content) is an accurate term for cosmetic packs, the issue is everyone just calls all add-on content DLC these days whether it's small or big.
Microtransactions tend to refer to things you can buy in the game itself with real money. Even though the externally bought cosmetic packs are essentially the same thing.
@@JakXT Okay.. but its considered dlc..i have no idea where you got your information from but its inaccurate. an expansion is dlc... 🫠...
no it isn't it has never been, because if that were the case than the dlc that i have had for my consoles would be strictly, going based off your own opinion here, cosmetics only. Which is wrong because microtransaction are that 100% of the time, bringing in items stuff that shouldn't be microtransaction at all nor sold seperately at all, into microtransaction when it should have been in the game to begin with
your wrong.
no, itis not smh ☠️ you cannot compare dlc an expansion that is new to the game itself whether it be; story, new chapters and quests, new dialogue for the character as well, custences that is essentially what dlcs bring in alot of content just like dark souls does to microtransaction...
please dont blur the real definition of two things that are clearly different from each other. dlc is not microtransaction.
@@JakXTExpansions are a specific type of DownLoadable Content.
Or to put it another way, squares and rectangles.
I originally played it at launch but after getting my saves wiped clean after every crash or reboot I had to uninstall which is a shame too because I can see the potential for it. I only played on Steam so I had no idea that the switch port would come out.
Was just about this thank you for this! I only have switch so finding good indie games is hard most are on steam
I heard that Sun Havens patch fixed a lot of the issues for a lot of people! I’d love to see an updated review :)
I really appreciate your honest opinion Josh.
The ending 😂
They have literally just ported over the bad controller support from steam to switch. Such a shame because I LOVE this game so much!
I really wanted to get this game, I really loved the art style because it reminded me of Gaia Online, it was on my wishlist for so long, and when they finally had a sale I was ready and willing to buy it on the spot. But something in the back of my mind was shouting at me to not purchase it. I looked at the reviews but they didn't seem too bad, but after sitting on it for awhile and then coming back to see all of those useless dlc packs and how the game kept getting even more broken with each update and how they haven't addressed the blaring glitches that haven't been fixed, really caused a downcast on the excitement I had for this game.