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Yep. On first listen, I hated the redundancy of the chorus but it got into my head. 1 million listens later it's on any new Favorite playlist that I create.
I got my girlfriend pregnant in high school and being from a small town she that she desperately wanted to leave, she decided it was best to get an abortion. The nearest one was 5 hours away and on our way there this song came on. I’d never even heard of the band but I’ll never forget my girlfriend breaking down crying during it. Something about the song touched her in a way she told me to pull over. After a long talk she decided to keep him. My son just turned 15 last month. This is the only song from this band that I know but I absolutely love it. Great video btw.
Inspirational story for sure! You should tell Karen O about this, maybe write her a letter. I think she’d like it. I’m a big YYYs fan and I know Karen’s a very sweet, genuine and caring person and would like it.
stella Kero Kero Bonito would be a suggestion for something new. Carly Tae Jepsen is well written pop that specializes in heartbreak. Otherwise, I don’t know your taste in music. I would have recommended Kendrick Lamar or Juice WRLD.
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I have honestly been ignoring this channels videos in my feed based solely on it being called Trash Theory. WTF do I know. Great video. As well as the Fugazi one I watched yesterday
@@brekezek I saw them live and on "Gold Lion" Karen would have even thrashed Freddie Mercury. The only live shows I've seen better than that were the early Bunnymen.
@@craigg5410 you know what, imma take a listen right now! Been working on EDM (hardtrance/acid) all day and I think bloc party will be a breath of fresh air. Edit,: yeah I like it. Especially the part from 00;00 to 01:40. That part of the song reminds me of a lot of songs I can't quite place at the moment. I think it vaguely reminded me of steet spirit from Radiohead? Also one song of Isis. But I tend to mix up all their songs as they are all great 😁 I think it is this drop, about 7 minutes in, that I got reminded to by the blocy part intro ua-cam.com/video/ZfLNSL7ceZI/v-deo.html Totally worth listening to the full 9 minutes by the way. Well at least If you are open to post-metal. I don't know how they do it but almost all melodies/harmonies they write get to me. They know exactly what to hear or something
post-punk/garage rock revival of the early 00s was the last glorious hurrah of rock music before retiring as a 'legacy genre' (like classical music or jazz)
Maps drove me to buy Fever to Tell in 2004. I had the fortune to see the Yeah Yeah Yeah's in 2006 or 2007. Karen O had the best stage presence of anyone I've ever seen.
Maps is one of those songs that pierces my soul and can never get it out of my head. It gives me the same feeling as Brody Dalle singing The Distillers song "The Hunger". Its a tortured moment of honesty shared among strangers, showing ones heart to the world.
“Maps” may have been one of the last times I heard a song for the first time while watching the music video. That is an experience I definitely miss, and I can remember this one in particular having a huge impact on me. I was their target demographic when this came out, and it hit me right in the gut. So cool to have this context and the story behind the song. Thank you 🙏.
great documentary. Karen in that teary moment remains, for me, the eternal archetype of heartbreak. Every time I watch it I am dropped to my emotional knees for those moments of her unrequited need, spilling out amidst the tumultuous backdrop of guitar and drums, much like how the rest of one's life becomes a mere blur when the heart aches so utterly for that specific "other".
That album still holds up, and yeah I think you nailed it with your description of their "trashy bangers". Yeah Yeah Yeahs when I first heard them were this breath of fresh air, some of the most punk rock people I'd heard in a long time. I probably wouldn't feel quite that way again until Death Grips and Sleaford Mods honestly.
@@joelmonteiro1419 I honestly think their entire discography is flawless. I love the glossy synthpop evolution on Its Blitz. Mosquito is not as good but there are some great tracks on there too
Death Grips is a much needed breath of fresh air. I didn't know you could do hip-hop and punk like that - hell I didn't know one could do MUSIC like that!!
Showing my age. I will never forget the first time I saw the video on MTV when I was in 7th grade, and my love for Yeah Yeah Yeahs only grew from there. It's Blitz is the soundtrack to my college years.
YYY’’s could shift from crunching, dirty guitars/screaming lyrics about masturbation, to heartbreaking ballads or dance. They did it so effortlessly and yet they always sounded authentically “them”, like they made every song on their own terms. Three musical geniuses in one band. God I love them.
I remember when Rolling Stone was struggling to come up with a term for this new horizon of sound and substance, the Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, etc., along with Death Cab for Cutie and the Shins and bands that were “post-Emo”. This was around 2004 - and the writer simply called it “Seth Cohen Music”, referring to the breakout character from The OC, a “geek” whose musical taste was actually setting real-life trends. I will never forget that. It was such a strange choice, almost a cop-out, in trying to capture that varied but similarly appealing early 2000s sound with one title.
I remember being 11 in 2001 and feeling this post punk revival like a breath of fresh air to the pop music offer there was around at the time. It shaped me and my musical taste.
Genre-labels on early 2000's indie-rock are useless. But garage rock is a subgenre/mix of punk, noise-rock, blues, and everything in between, thus making it post-punk. The reason these bands are called post-punk is because they were formed after the days of punk but were heavily inspired by punk without sounding like it. That's what post-punk is, a voluntary diversion from the standard punk formula.
Oh thank god someone else noticed this, I thought I was going crazy. I'm not sure homeboy knows what post-punk is. Although, Interpol definitely sounds post-punk at times.
@@TurtleGamers1 Garage rock predates punk by a decade (and some say is a form of proto-punk). It was a mid-60s genre (look into the _fantastic_ Nuggets comp for great examples). There was a genuine garage rock revival that started around 98'-99' mainly centered around Detroit. It had nothing to do with label marketing (for once). Post-punk refers to bands of the late 70s/early 80s that broke away from punk's austere "three chords and the truth" ethos. Bands like Joy Division, Mission of Burma, Wire, Gang of Four, The Birthday Party, etc. Bands like The White Stripes, The Hives, The Strokes, etc., definitely do NOT sound like post-punk bands. They sound like the old garage rock bands.
@@LividImp Maybe I was being too blunt by including The White Stripes, they're probably the garagiest of those bands. But you can't deny the post-punk of Joy Division in the cool, kinda groovy basslines and clean and tight drums, to the lightly overdriven and bright guitars. Is This It? is kind of an amalgamation of the genres up until that point. The Strokes sound like a happier Joy Division to me. Interpol is where you hear the post-punk the clearest.
Welp, she softly sang to me, playfully, with her arms around my neck, "wait, they don't love you like I love you", back in 2008, so Karen succeeded in giving us a love song, a soundtrack to star-crossed romance, to me a moment I will remember I hope forever.
I don't remember how I found this song when I was 14 in love with my best friend, I would cry everyday to it coming to terms with my sexuality and all that
Maps truly is a timeless song. As time goes on and the main decade to nostalgia-fy in media becomes the 2000's. I hope Maps gets the Stranger Things season 4 "Running Up That Hill" treatment in some popular show that's centered around 2000's nostalgia. That'd be so cool. Really glad for the "fluke" of MTV playing Maps, being a kid getting ready for school in the morning and having MTV music videos playing in the background February 2003 is how i discovered YYY. As a hardcore Yeah Yeah Yeahs fan, it's amazing some of the details in this i didn't know at the time. Like the "The Other Side of Mt. Heart Attack" song which i stumbled upon on my own at the time being a belated response to Maps. Or that Maps was, basically, fully formed from the very first demo. I knew about the Since You Been Gone taking "inspiration" from Maps, but never knew about the Black Eyed Peas and Beyonce sampling and lyrically referencing Maps either. Great breakdown on Maps.
Maps seems like the kind of song that in 10-15 more years will be featured in a huge rom-com and will see more success on the charts as people discover it again.
I love this song I used to listen to it all the time in high school & now my 3 year old son & I jam to it together...I ask him “what song do you want?” He says “They don’t love you like I love you momma” ❤️ 🎵🎶
Man Yeah Yeah Yeahs is among my top bands of all time. Here are just a few great songs you should check out: Gold Lion Heads Will Roll Zero Sacrilege Runaway Cheated Hearts Date with the Night Turn Into Skeletons Cheated Hearts Dull Life Kiss, Kiss Phenomena Down Boy Faces Soft Shock
Thanks for video. I remember the times when it was great luck to encounter such video on tv, but now with your videos i finally got what i was in lack of.
It's a common error to think that Dr. Luke and Max Martin were listening to the song Maps when writing "Since U Been Gone" in reality, the song inspiration came from "Barely Legal." by The Strokes. Also there is no direct quote of them saying they were inspired by Maps. You erroneously direct quote them to Maps. The entire actual quote is "We were listening to alternative and indie music and talking about some song - I don’t remember what it was. I said, “Ah, I love this song,” and Max was like, “If they would just write a damn pop chorus on it!” It was driving him nuts, because that indie song was sort of on six, going to seven, going to eight, the chorus comes … and it goes back down to five. It drove him crazy. And when he said that, it was like, lightbulb. “Why don’t we do that, but put a big chorus on it?” It worked." Barely Legal is tthe song that does not go anymore. It lacks the "big pop chorus" they allude to in their quote. They actually never reference Yeah Yeah Yeah, but reference more The Stokes in their interviews. "Barely Legal" guitars are almost too identical to "Since U Been Gone".ua-cam.com/video/XOl3NWxE6ss/v-deo.html. Lastly Maps actually has a more pop chorus build up towards the end that brings a sort of resolution to the song. Barely Legals lacks that effect, (solo not withstanding). Read this for more information. www.stereogum.com/1850735/first-impressions-of-earth-turns-10/franchises/the-anniversary/ Great video though - big fan of YYY's and Maps as the ultimate indie alt/garage rock love song of the early 2000's. I think Death Cab later took home the gravy with "Soul Meets Body" and "I Will Follow You Into the Dark". slightly different genre's/bands, of course.
Maps is one of my favorite songs. Yeah Yeah Yeahs one of my top five bands. I remember walking through my living room and Maps came on the TV, I saw the rawness of the song and of Karen O. It hit me in such a visceral way. The weight of her sorrow was palpable. It has haunted me ever since. Art Star was the very example of myself of that area. How could you not love them? Karen O is every bit the woman we needed on the stage.
Surreptitious Writings I question everything in this video. Starting with this song remains more relevant than other songs. Then the clips of the songs sounding the same. Influences vs people that inspire. ... and while Wikipedia calls it post punk revival, no one called it that back then. They just called it garage rock or indie. I feel like, yeah, of course maps was written in 5 minutes... the guitarist had been working on it for a while and she added like 2 sentences. I haven’t listened to them in a while, but I just remember them being really repetitive. I also think it’s a huge stretch that mashups created a market for pop songs that sounded like bands that were popular at the time. That’s how pop music works. Some music happens, the cool kids like it, big record labels make a version. Maps was a hit. It’s not on radio stations around here anymore. Is it good? Yes. Did it change my life? no.
There was so much going on at that time that would filter through the decade. Electro clash. Blog house (downloading indie dance songs on blogs), french touch, the strokes. For me it was always about the Faint. They were the indie dance band that brought it all together and nobody knows much about them these days. They galvanized the underground american scene like no other. I think I saw them 4-5 times in basements and clubs. Everyone was trying to mix electronic, punk, and rock. I remember Karen-O was kind of short hand for every girl who wanted to connect with the scene but I didn't care much for their songs other than the remixes. Maps was just kind of an afterthought for me, as I didn't care much for love songs, or the Liars lol. Beautiful time to be young and stupid.
there's a ton of emotion in their music but it's subtle, because that's how julian is. he isn't ostentatious in that kind of way so naturally his lyrics or the way he expresses his emotion will be in between the lines. ppl love to hate on the strokes for being the 'fad band' or the band that was cool "just because" and lacks substance. but generally it's because those ppl aren't really paying attention.
@Luke Robinett i'm serious, i couldn't tell you what i heard that made me write that comment but i wrote it and there it is lol *shrugs* must've been in a fugue state haha
When I first heard the Yeah Yeah Yeahs in the early 2000's and that the lead singer was Karen O, I believed that she was the daughter of Wendy O of the Plasmatics. It was delusional and wishful, but had a beauty to it. When I found out that she wasn't, it was kind of like when you had a favourite song which had fantastic lyrics and then you learned that your hearing of the lyrics was wrong and that the actual lyrics were less meaningful than the lyrics you heard. Anyway, any reminder that Wendy O existed can't be a bad thing and I'm sure that Karen wouldn't be displeased that there was a feeling of similarity.
In the video I notice you mention the strokes a lot in "paving the way" for the yeah yeah yeahs. It would be cool to see video about the strokes and how they accomplished that.
I first heard Maps on a playlist my first middle crush made me, it damn near brings tears to my eyes every single time I hear it now. The yeah yeah yeahs are one of those bands that are a time machine for me, always taking me right back to where I was in life when I fell in love with them.
I never noticed that Clarkson's Since U Been Gone was heavy influenced by Maps, but it makes sense now that I love both songs. Thanks for blowing my mind on a casual friday afternoon.
Wildest thing is that maps came out around 16 years ago! The time certainly flies, but a classic is a classic. I love this band and I still play "It's Blitz" to this day. I wish I could have seen them live. Fever to Tell should get more attention so I'm glad this video highlights one of its biggest hits. Thanks this was a great video.
I was 38 when this song came out after being into alt in the mid to late 80’s and when I first heard it it gave me goose bumps and brought me back to the mid 80’s style of alt..... great song.
I had no idea the other side of mt heart attack was a response to maps. I love both of those songs. They broke my heart at different points in my life. I’m stunned... but it fits.
Wow. Never noticed the comparison between Since You've Been Gone and Maps but now that you pointed it out I'll never be able to unhear it. Great video and perfect song.
I think I have played Maps over and over again for nearly an hour multiple times. It causes your heart to transcend reality. So much so its perception bending. All the loves you will never have.
Certainly wouldn’t call this Post Punk, more garage indie, wouldn’t say The White Stripes are indie but However, there’s certainly a true post punk revival happening right now with the likes of IDLES, Shame, Fontaines DC, Savages, Just Mustard, The Murder Capital, Girl Band. Check them out
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I can see why you say that, because there is some overlap in the sound of each band, but Interpol (and I'm a big interpol fan) has never had drumming as interesting or quite as tight and perfect as Brian Chase's, and Karen O's lyrics on the song are plain and easily relatable and understandable. Paul Banks lyrics are always sort of opaque and tough to pin down as far as a meaning goes.
@@imsgoalie1 I'm sorry but Sam fogarino is one of the best and most underated drummers of all time time. He has simply gotten better over the years. And Paul's lyrics were amazing on their first 3 albums
this song has always been so special to me. I played “fever to tell” and their self-titled until they were worn out. thank you for doing a video on it because I never knew the back story. if you don’t get chills when you hear that intro then I don’t fuck with you.
I wasn't a fan of this whole period of music but a good friend said listen to Yeah Yeah Yeahs. I was reluctant but enjoyed them from the start of my first taste of Fever to Tell. When Maps came on I realised I was listening to something miles above and beyond anything that had been written in years.
I remember I was at a house party and myself and my band had played a gig at it. We stayed up all night and when it was getting bright in the morning we were watching MTV on Maps came on. I remember being mesmerized and it was like a trance stance watching it (mainly the lack of sleep haha). That started my love affairs with YYY and they're one of my favourite bands since.
And now their new album is a goddamn masterpiece. Between them and indie sleaze in general, the meet me in the bathroom days are finally returning. Fuck, I miss that time
I remember hearing this when it came out when I was 17 and started getting into more alternative music. I fell in love with it the 1st time I heard it and still love it to this day. I heard this live last August in London and it was truly magical ❤
I remember a scene from The Wedding Singer where Adam Sandler talks about a song where you, the listener, say, 'I wonder what that guy (in this case lady) was feeling'. This is that song. There is so much desperation to keep her love that it just grabs you by the soul.
Yesterday I saw the yeah yeah yeahs for first time and it’s was mind blowing! One of my favorite shows in my hole life. I sang, cried, danced. Im 36 years and I’m so happy again
I remember always doing the singing part to this song when me and my cousins played Rockband and thinking to myself whoever wrote this song was very hurt inside.
Haven't even started the video I know it's such a great song I love it I play it for my girls all my songs they started to love and makes me happy as they become teens to have all this older forgotten classics in their lives and they have been through my journey. Thank you for maps love it will always
Solid video but I think it's hard to agree that "Maps" survived the early aughts better than "Seven Nation Army," which is now played at almost every pro sports game.
Seven Nation Army also has the edge by becoming something of a meme, so even when general society stops playing it unironically there will still be countless people revisiting it in the same way that All Star and old Linkin Park are being experienced now.
@Black Pill Rock does similar things too, but HipHop has its origins with sampling because the DJs would play the records of classics at the time. Back in the 80s - 90s you had to really know music to get the best samples. Nowadays its more accessible as a genre for production which is why Rock isn't as big any more.
I feel like any discussion of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs is owed at least a head-nod to Athens, Georgia legends Pylon. Their first album, debuting in 1980, is extremely similar to what the Yeah Yeah Yeahs would later bring to the mainstream.
I was 22 when I first heard MAPS! I was not in love, and it touched me. I'm 38 and still listen to Maps at least 3 times per week!! Great song, and performance!!!
in the early 2000s my friend said "Hey I heard there's a free show downtown, want to go? Never heard of the bands but sounds fun" and it was TV on The Radio opening for the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Amazing show and I've been hooked on both bands ever since
Hey so what are your favourite tracks from the "New Rock Revolution"?
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What a Waster- The Libertines
Interpol - PDA
music when the lights go out - libertines
Maps was and still is one of my favorite songs ever created
Yeah, pretty amazing.
Same tbh ngl
Here here!
Same. It never gets old.
Yep. On first listen, I hated the redundancy of the chorus but it got into my head. 1 million listens later it's on any new Favorite playlist that I create.
Karen O spit beer on me. It was my first show. I totaled a car on the way there. Good times.
That's a great story. I got a similar one with Mindless Self Indulgence before they played a rodeo bar in the midwest. Yeah talk about odd setting
“A” car? Not in fact “your” car? I need more details....
Nice
On the way there? That is dedication.
@@embunchofnumbers lol. Good catch.
Aww, man. My childhood right here. 32-year-old here. The early 2000s were fucking magical for someone in love with rock 'n' roll.
I'm with you on this one, 30 here. But damn, MAPS still hurts where I don't want to remember
only underground music any good. the 80's were great, the 90's few good bands and the 2000s few good bands. the wokeness ruined every thing
45 year old. This was the death of garage
@@KaleighCee wow you libtards always come up with the race thing, just stupid you are
I got my girlfriend pregnant in high school and being from a small town she that she desperately wanted to leave, she decided it was best to get an abortion. The nearest one was 5 hours away and on our way there this song came on. I’d never even heard of the band but I’ll never forget my girlfriend breaking down crying during it. Something about the song touched her in a way she told me to pull over. After a long talk she decided to keep him. My son just turned 15 last month. This is the only song from this band that I know but I absolutely love it. Great video btw.
Wow, what a story. Did you guys stay together?
What an amazing, beautiful story! Thanks for sharing!
Inspirational story for sure! You should tell Karen O about this, maybe write her a letter. I think she’d like it. I’m a big YYYs fan and I know Karen’s a very sweet, genuine and caring person and would like it.
We need to know if you called him "Angus".
Woohoo!!! That's awesome I'm glad you guys didn't go thru with it for the sake of the child
I always have a soft spot in my heart for this song.
I always have a soft song in my spot for this heart.
or a soft "shock" *wink wink*
Her music has always represented my teenage face since the day I hear her music low key had a crush per her lol
God, I miss the early 2000s music scene.
Like early 90s music and early 80s...
Stella, same here!
20 years later, we're going to be talking about the days of 2010s music.
martypython probably! But 90% of the music I listen to nowadays is old. Any suggestions?
stella Kero Kero Bonito would be a suggestion for something new. Carly Tae Jepsen is well written pop that specializes in heartbreak. Otherwise, I don’t know your taste in music. I would have recommended Kendrick Lamar or Juice WRLD.
I got goosebumps when he quoted her talking about crying over her boyfriend in the video for maps.
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I have honestly been ignoring this channels videos in my feed based solely on it being called Trash Theory.
WTF do I know. Great video. As well as the Fugazi one I watched yesterday
“Iggy Pop for shy nerds who want to get loose.” 😂
As a (former?) shy nerd I really liked it, but I liked Iggy Pop too
@@brekezek I saw them live and on "Gold Lion" Karen would have even thrashed Freddie Mercury. The only live shows I've seen better than that were the early Bunnymen.
That quote makes me feel so very seen.
Lol
My fave from this time was Bloc Party " like eating glass".
fantastic song agreed. best Bloc Party for me is still "Sunday". I LOVE YOU IN THE MOOOORNIIIIING
I only know helicopter but love that song
Bloc Party is sooo good I wish I could’ve seen them live.
This modern love is their best song. Saw them live shortly after that album. They had tonnes of energy I loved it.
@@craigg5410 you know what, imma take a listen right now! Been working on EDM (hardtrance/acid) all day and I think bloc party will be a breath of fresh air.
Edit,: yeah I like it. Especially the part from 00;00 to 01:40. That part of the song reminds me of a lot of songs I can't quite place at the moment. I think it vaguely reminded me of steet spirit from Radiohead? Also one song of Isis. But I tend to mix up all their songs as they are all great 😁
I think it is this drop, about 7 minutes in, that I got reminded to by the blocy part intro ua-cam.com/video/ZfLNSL7ceZI/v-deo.html
Totally worth listening to the full 9 minutes by the way. Well at least If you are open to post-metal.
I don't know how they do it but almost all melodies/harmonies they write get to me. They know exactly what to hear or something
Loved this video! I genuinely feel like Maps is one of the best songs of our generation. Yeah yeah yeahs are such a good (kind of underrated) band
Love the drumming in it. It's definitely a memorable track for that generation of music.
This song is timeless heard this in middle school and even now it still gets me
post-punk/garage rock revival of the early 00s was the last glorious hurrah of rock music before retiring as a 'legacy genre' (like classical music or jazz)
Please someone talk about the amazingness of Metric
PLEASE
Yeeeess
NEED
@@kirundist105 according to them, it wasn't that great, but probably it was at least to the outsiders
YES they deserve it
Maps drove me to buy Fever to Tell in 2004. I had the fortune to see the Yeah Yeah Yeah's in 2006 or 2007. Karen O had the best stage presence of anyone I've ever seen.
Yeah dude. She was one of the last amazing rock n roll frontwomen
Maps is one of those songs that pierces my soul and can never get it out of my head. It gives me the same feeling as Brody Dalle singing The Distillers song "The Hunger". Its a tortured moment of honesty shared among strangers, showing ones heart to the world.
Great reference ! Brody dalle with “The hunger “👌🏻
Totally! I just saw The Distillers for the first time ever a few months ago, and HOLY SHIT that song hits me hard.
Yup...this
I was just listening to The Distillers and this video was recommended. I loved both those bands.
Although Beat My Heart Out was my favorite from The Distillers around that time. I loved all 3 of their albums.
God I miss this era. Love all these bands especially Yeah Yeah Yeahs!
God, I missed that era... fuck
Jenn, me too!!
Oh. My. God. The drums in that demo version, I'm listening to that after, jesus.
“Maps” may have been one of the last times I heard a song for the first time while watching the music video. That is an experience I definitely miss, and I can remember this one in particular having a huge impact on me. I was their target demographic when this came out, and it hit me right in the gut.
So cool to have this context and the story behind the song. Thank you 🙏.
great documentary. Karen in that teary moment remains, for me, the eternal archetype of heartbreak. Every time I watch it I am dropped to my emotional knees for those moments of her unrequited need, spilling out amidst the tumultuous backdrop of guitar and drums, much like how the rest of one's life becomes a mere blur when the heart aches so utterly for that specific "other".
I remember coming home from middle school and watching these music videos on fuse tv...ahh the glory days.
That album still holds up, and yeah I think you nailed it with your description of their "trashy bangers". Yeah Yeah Yeahs when I first heard them were this breath of fresh air, some of the most punk rock people I'd heard in a long time. I probably wouldn't feel quite that way again until Death Grips and Sleaford Mods honestly.
Perfect album imo. Y Control is amazing and any obvious single, even more than Pin. Their second album and the following EP are also super good.
@@joelmonteiro1419 I honestly think their entire discography is flawless. I love the glossy synthpop evolution on Its Blitz. Mosquito is not as good but there are some great tracks on there too
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Fever to Tell and Gossip’s _Movement_ contained raw, banging tracks and were two of the best records to come out in 2003.
Now I have something new to listen to, thank you. I've not heard Movement before.
Death Grips is a much needed breath of fresh air. I didn't know you could do hip-hop and punk like that - hell I didn't know one could do MUSIC like that!!
Showing my age. I will never forget the first time I saw the video on MTV when I was in 7th grade, and my love for Yeah Yeah Yeahs only grew from there. It's Blitz is the soundtrack to my college years.
Maps was the first song I could play on expert drums in Rockband.
YESSSS
It was the one song everyone would cringe at when it came up on the set list. The slow whiny emo vibe was a great way to kill the mood at the party.
YYY’’s could shift from crunching, dirty guitars/screaming lyrics about masturbation, to heartbreaking ballads or dance. They did it so effortlessly and yet they always sounded authentically “them”, like they made every song on their own terms. Three musical geniuses in one band. God I love them.
I remember when Rolling Stone was struggling to come up with a term for this new horizon of sound and substance, the Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, etc., along with Death Cab for Cutie and the Shins and bands that were “post-Emo”. This was around 2004 - and the writer simply called it “Seth Cohen Music”, referring to the breakout character from The OC, a “geek” whose musical taste was actually setting real-life trends. I will never forget that. It was such a strange choice, almost a cop-out, in trying to capture that varied but similarly appealing early 2000s sound with one title.
I remember being 11 in 2001 and feeling this post punk revival like a breath of fresh air to the pop music offer there was around at the time. It shaped me and my musical taste.
Ok boomer
Hang on there.
"Do you remember the post punk revival?"
Shows garage rock bands.
Yeah these are all garage rock revival bands.
Genre-labels on early 2000's indie-rock are useless. But garage rock is a subgenre/mix of punk, noise-rock, blues, and everything in between, thus making it post-punk. The reason these bands are called post-punk is because they were formed after the days of punk but were heavily inspired by punk without sounding like it. That's what post-punk is, a voluntary diversion from the standard punk formula.
Oh thank god someone else noticed this, I thought I was going crazy. I'm not sure homeboy knows what post-punk is. Although, Interpol definitely sounds post-punk at times.
@@TurtleGamers1 Garage rock predates punk by a decade (and some say is a form of proto-punk). It was a mid-60s genre (look into the _fantastic_ Nuggets comp for great examples). There was a genuine garage rock revival that started around 98'-99' mainly centered around Detroit. It had nothing to do with label marketing (for once). Post-punk refers to bands of the late 70s/early 80s that broke away from punk's austere "three chords and the truth" ethos. Bands like Joy Division, Mission of Burma, Wire, Gang of Four, The Birthday Party, etc. Bands like The White Stripes, The Hives, The Strokes, etc., definitely do NOT sound like post-punk bands. They sound like the old garage rock bands.
@@LividImp Maybe I was being too blunt by including The White Stripes, they're probably the garagiest of those bands. But you can't deny the post-punk of Joy Division in the cool, kinda groovy basslines and clean and tight drums, to the lightly overdriven and bright guitars. Is This It? is kind of an amalgamation of the genres up until that point. The Strokes sound like a happier Joy Division to me. Interpol is where you hear the post-punk the clearest.
Maps is still near and dear to me.
So many great tracks. First heard “Maps” on a flight from California to Japan. It’s been in my playlists for almost 20 years.
"... for shy nerds who want to get loose"
Welp, she softly sang to me, playfully, with her arms around my neck, "wait, they don't love you like I love you", back in 2008, so Karen succeeded in giving us a love song, a soundtrack to star-crossed romance, to me a moment I will remember I hope forever.
I don't remember how I found this song when I was 14 in love with my best friend, I would cry everyday to it coming to terms with my sexuality and all that
Maps truly is a timeless song. As time goes on and the main decade to nostalgia-fy in media becomes the 2000's. I hope Maps gets the Stranger Things season 4 "Running Up That Hill" treatment in some popular show that's centered around 2000's nostalgia. That'd be so cool. Really glad for the "fluke" of MTV playing Maps, being a kid getting ready for school in the morning and having MTV music videos playing in the background February 2003 is how i discovered YYY. As a hardcore Yeah Yeah Yeahs fan, it's amazing some of the details in this i didn't know at the time. Like the "The Other Side of Mt. Heart Attack" song which i stumbled upon on my own at the time being a belated response to Maps. Or that Maps was, basically, fully formed from the very first demo. I knew about the Since You Been Gone taking "inspiration" from Maps, but never knew about the Black Eyed Peas and Beyonce sampling and lyrically referencing Maps either. Great breakdown on Maps.
Was in tears when I saw Karen perform on The Oscars. They've come so far ❤
Harvey Cryst Moon Song
When?
I'm still so bitter about The Moon Song not winning Best Original Song. 😒
Maps seems like the kind of song that in 10-15 more years will be featured in a huge rom-com and will see more success on the charts as people discover it again.
I was like 9 when maps came out. I’ve honestly never been the same since. That songs brings back so much nostalgia.
Haven't been the same since you were 9. That's just called aging.
I post random comments Well yeah obviously haha. I meant it more as a sort of awakening maybe? I don’t know, it’s kind of an alien ting to explain
I love this song I used to listen to it all the time in high school & now my 3 year old son & I jam to it together...I ask him “what song do you want?” He says “They don’t love you like I love you momma” ❤️ 🎵🎶
Man Yeah Yeah Yeahs is among my top bands of all time. Here are just a few great songs you should check out:
Gold Lion
Heads Will Roll
Zero
Sacrilege
Runaway
Cheated Hearts
Date with the Night
Turn Into
Skeletons
Cheated Hearts
Dull Life
Kiss, Kiss
Phenomena
Down Boy
Faces
Soft Shock
Thanks for video. I remember the times when it was great luck to encounter such video on tv, but now with your videos i finally got what i was in lack of.
It's a common error to think that Dr. Luke and Max Martin were listening to the song Maps when writing "Since U Been Gone" in reality, the song inspiration came from "Barely Legal." by The Strokes. Also there is no direct quote of them saying they were inspired by Maps. You erroneously direct quote them to Maps.
The entire actual quote is
"We were listening to alternative and indie music and talking about some song - I don’t remember what it was. I said, “Ah, I love this song,” and Max was like, “If they would just write a damn pop chorus on it!” It was driving him nuts, because that indie song was sort of on six, going to seven, going to eight, the chorus comes … and it goes back down to five. It drove him crazy. And when he said that, it was like, lightbulb. “Why don’t we do that, but put a big chorus on it?” It worked."
Barely Legal is tthe song that does not go anymore. It lacks the "big pop chorus" they allude to in their quote. They actually never reference Yeah Yeah Yeah, but reference more The Stokes in their interviews. "Barely Legal" guitars are almost too identical to "Since U Been Gone".ua-cam.com/video/XOl3NWxE6ss/v-deo.html. Lastly Maps actually has a more pop chorus build up towards the end that brings a sort of resolution to the song. Barely Legals lacks that effect, (solo not withstanding).
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Great video though - big fan of YYY's and Maps as the ultimate indie alt/garage rock love song of the early 2000's. I think Death Cab later took home the gravy with "Soul Meets Body" and "I Will Follow You Into the Dark". slightly different genre's/bands, of course.
@Luke Robinett Agreed - those breakdowns are pretty spot on though!
Maps is one of my favorite songs. Yeah Yeah Yeahs one of my top five bands. I remember walking through my living room and Maps came on the TV, I saw the rawness of the song and of Karen O. It hit me in such a visceral way. The weight of her sorrow was palpable. It has haunted me ever since. Art Star was the very example of myself of that area. How could you not love them? Karen O is every bit the woman we needed on the stage.
I had just discovered this song on Spotify a few days ago, and I totally love it. I'm new to this post-punk revival btw
this song is from the early 2000s and they are not post punk. this video is fucking dumb.
Surreptitious Writings I question everything in this video. Starting with this song remains more relevant than other songs. Then the clips of the songs sounding the same. Influences vs people that inspire. ... and while Wikipedia calls it post punk revival, no one called it that back then. They just called it garage rock or indie. I feel like, yeah, of course maps was written in 5 minutes... the guitarist had been working on it for a while and she added like 2 sentences. I haven’t listened to them in a while, but I just remember them being really repetitive. I also think it’s a huge stretch that mashups created a market for pop songs that sounded like bands that were popular at the time. That’s how pop music works. Some music happens, the cool kids like it, big record labels make a version. Maps was a hit. It’s not on radio stations around here anymore. Is it good? Yes. Did it change my life? no.
There was so much going on at that time that would filter through the decade. Electro clash. Blog house (downloading indie dance songs on blogs), french touch, the strokes. For me it was always about the Faint. They were the indie dance band that brought it all together and nobody knows much about them these days. They galvanized the underground american scene like no other. I think I saw them 4-5 times in basements and clubs. Everyone was trying to mix electronic, punk, and rock. I remember Karen-O was kind of short hand for every girl who wanted to connect with the scene but I didn't care much for their songs other than the remixes. Maps was just kind of an afterthought for me, as I didn't care much for love songs, or the Liars lol. Beautiful time to be young and stupid.
Wait what? The Strokes did put emotions into their music. Under Control, Trying Your Luck and Is this it all sound emotional to me.
there's a ton of emotion in their music but it's subtle, because that's how julian is. he isn't ostentatious in that kind of way so naturally his lyrics or the way he expresses his emotion will be in between the lines. ppl love to hate on the strokes for being the 'fad band' or the band that was cool "just because" and lacks substance. but generally it's because those ppl aren't really paying attention.
Yeah that non sequitur bugged me as well.
Take it or leave it
Under Control is incredible, I get swept up in different emotions every time I hear it
@Luke Robinett i'm serious, i couldn't tell you what i heard that made me write that comment but i wrote it and there it is lol *shrugs* must've been in a fugue state haha
When I first heard the Yeah Yeah Yeahs in the early 2000's and that the lead singer was Karen O, I believed that she was the daughter of Wendy O of the Plasmatics. It was delusional and wishful, but had a beauty to it. When I found out that she wasn't, it was kind of like when you had a favourite song which had fantastic lyrics and then you learned that your hearing of the lyrics was wrong and that the actual lyrics were less meaningful than the lyrics you heard. Anyway, any reminder that Wendy O existed can't be a bad thing and I'm sure that Karen wouldn't be displeased that there was a feeling of similarity.
In the video I notice you mention the strokes a lot in "paving the way" for the yeah yeah yeahs. It would be cool to see video about the strokes and how they accomplished that.
Take a look at the book "Meet Me in the Bathroom" by Lizzy Goodman and it'll have what you're looking for
It's well documented
John Peel. No video required. :-)
The Strokes did fuck all.
John Casablancas paid for his son to have a band. At least they put out a couple good albums.
I first heard Maps on a playlist my first middle crush made me, it damn near brings tears to my eyes every single time I hear it now. The yeah yeah yeahs are one of those bands that are a time machine for me, always taking me right back to where I was in life when I fell in love with them.
I never noticed that Clarkson's Since U Been Gone was heavy influenced by Maps, but it makes sense now that I love both songs. Thanks for blowing my mind on a casual friday afternoon.
Wildest thing is that maps came out around 16 years ago! The time certainly flies, but a classic is a classic. I love this band and I still play "It's Blitz" to this day. I wish I could have seen them live. Fever to Tell should get more attention so I'm glad this video highlights one of its biggest hits. Thanks this was a great video.
The Strokes are still the coolest thing to me lolllll.
I think its important to note that Maps was a staple on the Guitar Hero and Rock Band video games which where peaking at this time.
I truly love this song!.... a great video, well thought through, researched, and presentation!
The song makes so little sense that it touches you emotionally through cognitive dissonance and intensity. It is pure romance.
So much of Fever to Tell vocals sound like rockabilly and early country music. Surprised no one ever makes that connection.
Didn't realize it was about Angus from Liars. This music era was so great and now I feel so old, lol
my dad basically raised me on the yeah yeah yeah's and it's so interesting to hear people talk about this music i sort of grew up listening to
I can totally see the Jeff Mangum influences now that you mention she had said that.
I was 38 when this song came out after being into alt in the mid to late 80’s and when I first heard it it gave me goose bumps and brought me back to the mid 80’s style of alt..... great song.
I had no idea the other side of mt heart attack was a response to maps. I love both of those songs. They broke my heart at different points in my life. I’m stunned... but it fits.
OMG, I love this song but I knew so little about it. Thank you so much for this video essay!
"Do you remember the post punk revival?" (plays all the bands that got me into music.) "ye"
I swear with every new video you put it i’m becoming more convinced you made this channel specifically for my music tastes, haha. So good, dude.
Wow. Never noticed the comparison between Since You've Been Gone and Maps but now that you pointed it out I'll never be able to unhear it. Great video and perfect song.
I think I have played Maps over and over again for nearly an hour multiple times. It causes your heart to transcend reality. So much so its perception bending. All the loves you will never have.
My era of rock music!
Probably my favorite era of rock as far as mainstream rock goes... too good. 80's goth is pretty high up there too though.
Luke Robinett You must be 39?
I absolutely adore the yeah yeah yeahs, soft shock and maps ❤
Certainly wouldn’t call this Post Punk, more garage indie, wouldn’t say The White Stripes are indie but
However, there’s certainly a true post punk revival happening right now with the likes of IDLES, Shame, Fontaines DC, Savages, Just Mustard, The Murder Capital, Girl Band. Check them out
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Maps sounds like it could be on Turn On the Bright Lights
I don't think so, they are very very different. I'm not sure Interpol would be considered "art" rock.
Ehhhh I don’t know about that
@@i.cant.sleep.anymore Interpol definitely influenced alot of bands with the release of totbl. XXX, killers etc. You simply can't deny that
I can see why you say that, because there is some overlap in the sound of each band, but Interpol (and I'm a big interpol fan) has never had drumming as interesting or quite as tight and perfect as Brian Chase's, and Karen O's lyrics on the song are plain and easily relatable and understandable. Paul Banks lyrics are always sort of opaque and tough to pin down as far as a meaning goes.
@@imsgoalie1 I'm sorry but Sam fogarino is one of the best and most underated drummers of all time time. He has simply gotten better over the years. And Paul's lyrics were amazing on their first 3 albums
this song has always been so special to me. I played “fever to tell” and their self-titled until they were worn out. thank you for doing a video on it because I never knew the back story. if you don’t get chills when you hear that intro then I don’t fuck with you.
Shirley Manson has a podcast and she invited Karen O to talk about the song...this video kind of capture what she said for 20 minutes.
I wasn't a fan of this whole period of music but a good friend said listen to Yeah Yeah Yeahs. I was reluctant but enjoyed them from the start of my first taste of Fever to Tell. When Maps came on I realised I was listening to something miles above and beyond anything that had been written in years.
As a 14 year old Mexican kid who wore ecko and listened to Jay z , I did not know what to do with myself after I first heard maps
I remember I was at a house party and myself and my band had played a gig at it. We stayed up all night and when it was getting bright in the morning we were watching MTV on Maps came on. I remember being mesmerized and it was like a trance stance watching it (mainly the lack of sleep haha). That started my love affairs with YYY and they're one of my favourite bands since.
Wow love this description, thank you so much for sharing!
And now their new album is a goddamn masterpiece. Between them and indie sleaze in general, the meet me in the bathroom days are finally returning. Fuck, I miss that time
You dropped the "F" bomb!!! 😯
@@porflepopnecker4376 you feelin okay, kid?
I remember hearing this when it came out when I was 17 and started getting into more alternative music. I fell in love with it the 1st time I heard it and still love it to this day. I heard this live last August in London and it was truly magical ❤
Fun fact: if you turn the captions on at 12:19, he calls Dr. Luke a "shithead". Thanks for speaking the truth, mate.
I remember a scene from The Wedding Singer where Adam Sandler talks about a song where you, the listener, say, 'I wonder what that guy (in this case lady) was feeling'. This is that song. There is so much desperation to keep her love that it just grabs you by the soul.
Post punk revival there was a great music scene!! They're would be great look
a vídeo about this scene
Yesterday I saw the yeah yeah yeahs for first time and it’s was mind blowing! One of my favorite shows in my hole life. I sang, cried, danced. Im 36 years and I’m so happy again
I remember always doing the singing part to this song when me and my cousins played Rockband and thinking to myself whoever wrote this song was very hurt inside.
I'll always remember the day my boyfriend and I went to a Yeah Yeah Yeahs concert and Maps came on, it was such a great moment with a great song.
I would love to see what you could do about Nine Inch Nails, Ash. Love your work.
Haven't even started the video I know it's such a great song I love it I play it for my girls all my songs they started to love and makes me happy as they become teens to have all this older forgotten classics in their lives and they have been through my journey. Thank you for maps love it will always
I dont know HOW I missed that Maps sound in Meet Me Halfway
I love your videos 💖 I always feel like crying afterwards, I get so excited about the human aspect you give to this videos. Love your reflexions 💖
Solid video but I think it's hard to agree that "Maps" survived the early aughts better than "Seven Nation Army," which is now played at almost every pro sports game.
Maps is better, to be clear, but saying it outsurvived SNA is a stretch
Seven Nation Army also has the edge by becoming something of a meme, so even when general society stops playing it unironically there will still be countless people revisiting it in the same way that All Star and old Linkin Park are being experienced now.
INTERPOL MENTIONED ‼️🔥
Please do a bit about The Libertines. X
I'm 55, and I discovered this song just a few months ago. It's amazing...
So good it was lifted by Beyoncé for “Hold Up”
Diplo and Ezra Koenig lifted it and sold it off to her. She couldn't even get it herself
Black Pill lmao just like rock musicians stealing music from old blues men
@Black Pill Rock does similar things too, but HipHop has its origins with sampling because the DJs would play the records of classics at the time. Back in the 80s - 90s you had to really know music to get the best samples. Nowadays its more accessible as a genre for production which is why Rock isn't as big any more.
I LOVE your conclusion. Cool is nice for the moment but fades with time. True, deep emotions are timeless. ❤️
favorite music channel. Please do something on the Hold Steady / Craig Finn
Dance by ESG is also just fucking BOSS! I could listen to that on repeat for the rest of my life & never get tired!! Fuckin' awesome!
I feel like any discussion of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs is owed at least a head-nod to Athens, Georgia legends Pylon. Their first album, debuting in 1980, is extremely similar to what the Yeah Yeah Yeahs would later bring to the mainstream.
I was 22 when I first heard MAPS! I was not in love, and it touched me. I'm 38 and still listen to Maps at least 3 times per week!! Great song, and performance!!!
Love it! Can you get into Franz Ferdinand and The Bravery next?
The bravery, were chancers
in the early 2000s my friend said "Hey I heard there's a free show downtown, want to go? Never heard of the bands but sounds fun" and it was TV on The Radio opening for the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Amazing show and I've been hooked on both bands ever since