Zuma sings controversial song at Mandela funeral

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  • Опубліковано 14 гру 2013
  • Khehla Shubane explains the controversy surrounding the song sung by Pres. Jacob Zuma at the funeral of Nelson Mandela.

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  • @CrispyHulk1
    @CrispyHulk1 7 років тому +574

    This is not controversial. This is a piece of history which should never be forgotten.

    • @tovarischkarno4390
      @tovarischkarno4390 5 років тому +10

      By that standard the confederate flag is too

    • @olamidearibisala
      @olamidearibisala 5 років тому +4

      Never to be forgotten

    • @asoiafreview
      @asoiafreview 5 років тому +7

      Why do you whites always want to deny documented history

    • @onatawane4403
      @onatawane4403 4 роки тому

      @Mark Longkutoy why are you lying,Satan?Sies!

    • @sbulelengxingolo9389
      @sbulelengxingolo9389 2 роки тому

      They kept slaves and killed people lol
      This is our cry for our land that was taken by white men

  • @tsheposekonya3108
    @tsheposekonya3108 3 роки тому +71

    It’s amazing how the truth is seen as Controversial ..... these days 🤣

  • @nmsibiya8536
    @nmsibiya8536 4 роки тому +80

    Years later, I as a South African watch this video and appreciate this gentleman's view point, this song is a very symbolic and represents a myriad of historical factors, and for this reason and many others should be past from one generation to the next.
    Viva!!

  • @TheRealMntungwaKhumalo
    @TheRealMntungwaKhumalo 9 років тому +269

    It's crazy that two black people think this song is controversial...

    • @azureeingvildhjllundbeck8746
      @azureeingvildhjllundbeck8746 9 років тому +2

      ***** seriously if you don't like why you comment for nothing ? You acting like a kid... You are probably a very sad men with no life...Troll. Bye

    • @queenofthewhores
      @queenofthewhores 4 роки тому +1

      Isha Sesay is what some black Americans would call a bed wench. Married a white man, not surprised.

    • @teddynjabulo2435
      @teddynjabulo2435 4 роки тому +5

      It's moronic to be honest.

    • @trueconservative6288
      @trueconservative6288 4 роки тому +25

      Prayerful song for people crying for their land...how the f is that controversial. SERIOUSLY!!!

    • @trueconservative6288
      @trueconservative6288 4 роки тому +1

      Azuree Ingvild Hjøllund Beck thank God the world has moved on. No offence but FUCK OFF

  • @lehlohonolothoabala9454
    @lehlohonolothoabala9454 4 роки тому +334

    Let’s forget those who think this song is controversial let’s focus on how the former President lead this song. No one in politics sings like the former President, honorable Jacob Zuma 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔

  • @ernestmathebula5609
    @ernestmathebula5609 8 років тому +94

    This reporter is misinformed.

    • @deanking6105
      @deanking6105 4 роки тому +1

      Ernest Mathebula but she is a coconut, she is black or African on the outside in the inside she is white, the oppressive kind. So, anything that speaks of black or African emancipation is will be scary and controversial for her.

    • @KaydeneJ
      @KaydeneJ Місяць тому

      Or protecting her job.

  • @olamidearibisala
    @olamidearibisala 5 років тому +68

    Am Nigerian and I love this song and can relate to it

    • @Rboy23
      @Rboy23 21 день тому

      Omo naija

  • @mvuzol.ngqentsu4579
    @mvuzol.ngqentsu4579 8 років тому +265

    There's nothing controversial on this song.

    • @user-oi6gr8xw9h
      @user-oi6gr8xw9h 8 років тому +1

      Black people back to Africa.

    • @lukasbartl7740
      @lukasbartl7740 5 років тому +2

      @Bantze Hotep And do you know why they don't want to go back? Because they were born there, lived there their whole lives like their ancestors that have been there for hundreds of years. It has nothing to do with your false argument that Europe is a bad place to live in. South Africa is a less developed country than all of the Central and Western European countries, including the post-communist ones. I would even argue that most of the Eastern European countries are doing better than SA as well. We have milions of black Africans living in different European countries. Why is that? Because they know they are much better off here than in any African country, SA included. I have nothing againts them living here peacefully, provided they don't cause any trouble and are willing to submit to our values and ways of life. And if I am to be honest, they really have no real right to be here, they were not born here, their ancestors have never lived here for hundreds of years, they are only here because of our benevolence. Why can't you show the same kind of benevolence to you white neighbours, when they have a lot bigger claim on the country than African people living here ever had as far as living in Europe is concerned. Last thing you should consider, you in fact don't want the white farmers to leave your country, unless of course you don't want to starve to death, and I believe you don't.

    • @lukasbartl7740
      @lukasbartl7740 5 років тому +2

      @Bantze Hotep I dont think the lands which they now own has originally been in the hands of black African people in the first place.

    • @awesomewilsononline225
      @awesomewilsononline225 3 роки тому +5

      @@lukasbartl7740 it belonged to who land police?

    • @phumelelomthimude8082
      @phumelelomthimude8082 2 роки тому +3

      @@lukasbartl7740 wow really, ignorance in this 😑

  • @sielfriedtcleophaszebbygow2475
    @sielfriedtcleophaszebbygow2475 Рік тому +106

    This song is not controversial, it is a song of pain - This song is for us, those who felt the injustices of the past.

    • @leigh4326
      @leigh4326 Рік тому +4

      Yes comrade ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

    • @Rvh1
      @Rvh1 Рік тому

      You mean the songs of terrorists

    • @jhonklan3794
      @jhonklan3794 11 місяців тому +1

      get over it.

    • @klyk69
      @klyk69 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@jhonklan3794when the last Boer is returned to the Netherlands

  • @jimmyngwira6513
    @jimmyngwira6513 10 років тому +70

    i dont see anything wrong with the song. i understand each and every verse.

  • @zeebit5
    @zeebit5 3 роки тому +133

    I love the song and I love Zuma for leading it properly.✊

    • @josephjjenkins1549
      @josephjjenkins1549 2 роки тому +1

      What did he and the ANC due significantly to improve the lives of BLACK South Africans? He looked out for Indians. I'm referring to Zuma, not Madiba.

  • @kholofelomaloma
    @kholofelomaloma 10 років тому +83

    Our president is a good singer... Just listen to his voice

    • @Uhu21
      @Uhu21 2 роки тому

      😂😂

  • @ntandoyenkosishamase7523
    @ntandoyenkosishamase7523 3 роки тому +121

    Point of correction , " His Excellency The President of the Republic of South Africa leads the congregation into revolutionary song at the funeral service of Nelson Mandela"

  • @bobbyshabangu
    @bobbyshabangu 9 років тому +336

    Just in case you don't know what the song says let me translate it:
    We, the black nation
    We are lamenting for our land.
    Our Land which was seized by the Whites
    Chorus:
    We say, Let them leave our Land x3
    Verse2
    The children of Africa are mourning,
    Mourning for their land.
    Their Land which was seized by the Whites.

    • @gkr2243
      @gkr2243 9 років тому +10

      Thanks brother

    • @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977
      @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977 9 років тому +7

      bobby shabangu When whites firstly came into SA they just made refuelling stations, nothing more, they didn't seize anything, then they started to seize uninhabited lands, and then, shamefully, they taken most of your lands. It is not the same.

    • @bobbyshabangu
      @bobbyshabangu 9 років тому +44

      ***** When I grew up I used to read in a history class that Dr David Livingston discovered the Victoria falls. I knew something was wrong with statement but I didn't know how to prove it until my grandfather told me that Livingston didn't discover a thing. He was the first European to see the Victoria falls not discover. In fact when the white man came he rewrote my history, introduced boarders then gave me the bible and told me that the lands where my cattle were grazing were unhibited and they belong to him now.

    • @Mazwi
      @Mazwi 9 років тому +3

      ***** but who thought you our history ?

    • @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977
      @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977 9 років тому

      Mazwi Mnguni Books and personal researches of both "sides" trying to make history theirs.

  • @tebohomaditsi5536
    @tebohomaditsi5536 3 роки тому +20

    This song means a lot to us black 🖤 South African...

    • @realballa08
      @realballa08 10 місяців тому

      What’s the name of the song?

    • @7Bullseyes
      @7Bullseyes 6 місяців тому

      Absolutely beautiful, I can hear it in my soul

    • @Rboy23
      @Rboy23 21 день тому

      @@realballa08thina sizwe

  • @OKUHLEMZINYATHI100
    @OKUHLEMZINYATHI100 8 років тому +90

    Anyone comment about the wonderful choir backing up the president. Aint they just wonderful?

  • @caimaccoinnich9594
    @caimaccoinnich9594 3 роки тому +9

    This song literally mourns how colonists stole black African land! How's that controversial?

  • @khamisahchao530
    @khamisahchao530 6 років тому +36

    I love south Africans natural beauty an their love of their culture and their pride as Africans, i can say they are Africans who are proud to be Africans, long live their spirits

  • @carolyn3797
    @carolyn3797 8 років тому +108

    even though I'm from West Africa I have always loved this song, Mandela & biko

    • @josephjjenkins1549
      @josephjjenkins1549 8 років тому +8

      +Fredericka Rowland x I am African-Native American. This is my first time hearing this song. It is inspiring. RESPECT.

    • @markhenley3097
      @markhenley3097 7 років тому +1

      Fredericka Rowland West Africa? As in South West Africa (Namibia)?

    • @carolyn3797
      @carolyn3797 7 років тому +2

      Prins van Oranje no freetown, sierra leone

    • @farmdog3566
      @farmdog3566 6 років тому

      Fredericka Rowland He was my neighbour and a selfish sellout. I know him personally and not through T.V as many.

    • @olamidearibisala
      @olamidearibisala 5 років тому +2

      Am Nigerian and I love this song and can relate to it

  • @OheneAdusi
    @OheneAdusi 2 роки тому +30

    I wish my country Ghana once had a president that can sing like this!
    Dear South Africans, no matter the wrong Mr Zuma did, I believe he still has some outstanding positive records that can't be overlooked.
    "To forgive is divine and to err is human."
    No one is perfect!
    Peace be unto Africa!

    • @josephjjenkins1549
      @josephjjenkins1549 2 роки тому +3

      You had the Father of independence, President Keame Nkrumah, may he continue his Heavenly RIP 🙏🏾🤲🏾👏🏾! He was a visionary. Xuma was a thief. And the ANC has not improved the lives of everday BLACK South Africans. I hope Julius Malema will one day be president, InshaAllah 🙏🏾🤲🏾.

    • @leigh4326
      @leigh4326 Рік тому +4

      You are right Mr. President Zuma was the best president of the people NOT of the West but for the people. He did so much more than former Presidents Mandela & Mbeki combined. Only critical thinkers acknowledge this. I’m not even Zulu but than man was my President ✊🏾

    • @nicholasmavumengwana6621
      @nicholasmavumengwana6621 10 місяців тому

      If President Zuma was not born is just a waste of "NINE WASTED YEARS " He was the by being push by hiden Tribalism and opportunists if you are you are DULL and EMBECILE minded nothing you can see...

    • @Bommogo
      @Bommogo 6 місяців тому

      Zuma only did wrong in the eyes of white people

  • @louismbara
    @louismbara 10 років тому +46

    Nothing is controversial about this song, it actually is what Tata Mandela would have loved. it is has substantial significance to the history and heritage of Black traditional chiefs (as Mandela was one of them), the political struggle and the greater masses at large. We cannot be expected to bow to the feelings of arrogant Afrikaners who cannot accept the realities of the scourge underwhich black people in Africa at large had to go through. this song is part of the political culture and social identity of the South Africans, both black and white, who understand its context and the meaning of conserving the heritage and social identity of our country.

  • @deonmagabane611
    @deonmagabane611 4 роки тому +19

    Never has there been a time where this song is more relevant

  • @perfectntuli9242
    @perfectntuli9242 3 роки тому +30

    2021 I'm still watching this ❤️. we once had a real President

    • @josephjjenkins1549
      @josephjjenkins1549 2 роки тому

      Disagree. What did Zuma do for struggling BLACK South Africans? I'll wait.

    • @perfectntuli9242
      @perfectntuli9242 2 роки тому +4

      Built houses , bridges, schools, universities, hospitals, fought labour brokers. He wasn't perfect yes but the masses weren't forgotten like Ramaphosa who only care about investors etc.

  • @OlayinkaAwofodu
    @OlayinkaAwofodu 10 років тому +15

    Even some Black Americans still sing "Anti-Slavery" song.

  • @MrDlm44
    @MrDlm44 9 років тому +116

    I had known this song from the film Amandla! and do not understand how it could be "controversial." It says "our children cry because white people took our land; may it be returned to the people." It is a remembrance of WHY there was a struggle in the first place. It is obviously in the style of a prayer hymn, a prayer that one day all things will be straightened out as they should be. This is the same as "We shall overcome" and the Christian prayer for the Kingdom of God on earth.

    • @tiagoserafim7739
      @tiagoserafim7739 8 років тому +1

      +Dennis Maher Please think a bit. You must choose a side. You must choose if ppl do own land, or do not. If they do ppl actually should have the same rights being white black yeloow or blue stripes. If they not own land then every thing is to everyone. If you say.
      This is the same question for international borders. Is just a human concept. It actually dont exist. We humans invented it. But you must see that no one does anything about it even if they are black or white leaders.
      Are we so much different then? Probably not. You have the same right to claim for what it's yours as other ppl. Many africans fleed from africa to europe along the years. This music has no logic to me. There are africans all around the world. Should they go all back do africa? We white ppl have to fleed from europe because of white persecution to other white ppl. Not trying to play the victim role here. We are all victims of our own shit.
      The ppl holding guns and power should be vanished from earth. They are the real problem. All other's are just poor innocents that try to do their living the best they can. These hate isnt good for humanity. There is plenty of room on Earth for all of us without killing eachother. I doubt there is room for anyone if we keep on fighting.

    • @martinarmenta835
      @martinarmenta835 6 років тому +3

      i think they confuse the song with the "kill the boer one"

    • @dumisanid8733
      @dumisanid8733 6 років тому +1

      True Mr Dennis, thanks for speaking the truth

    • @sowhat305
      @sowhat305 6 років тому

      Thank you sir

    • @babblesab1
      @babblesab1 6 років тому

      So when are we gonna song the song of how the black tribes stole the land from the native Khoi when the black tribes came from Middle Africa

  • @sanza9088
    @sanza9088 8 років тому +9

    Thanks JZ for singing the Song.

  • @sanza9088
    @sanza9088 8 років тому +15

    Rub anyone the wrong? It is my pain that I sing about. The Matter is not resolved!!! Why must I pretend to be a gentleman when I know I am being ransacked. It is time to defend and fight...

  • @Sabelo8708
    @Sabelo8708 10 років тому +28

    Controversial?? This song is very relevant considering what Mandela stood for. Its a very very powerful prayer..This woman does not even listen to what Mr Shubane says

    • @nthabisengngoasheng
      @nthabisengngoasheng 10 років тому

      and Mr Shubane referring to the message as an irritation to white folk that black people must consider stopping.... irritation? That's what I feel when I drive through old money neighborhoods on my less positive days.

    • @wernerempire
      @wernerempire 10 років тому

      nthabiseng ngoasheng
      I have heard that the San people sometimes feel a bit irritated when they go through the areas that migrating Bantu tribes violently took from them. But I guess we we don't talk about that right Nthabiseng? So much nicer to sit on a moral high horse and see yourself as a victim who's ancestors never wronged anyone.

    • @nthabisengngoasheng
      @nthabisengngoasheng 10 років тому +2

      wernerempire that could be some kind of trump card you just pulled. if it weren't for that I do not condone any inhumane methods of "conquering" that our less empathetic counterparts may have used... and if it weren't for what history relates to Me, that the San are very much a part of My bloodline. I am of African descent through and through. We have our history, and we have our own things to atone for. Just like Europe has its own history, and its own things to atone for. Until you see africans colonising europe on its home ground and pointing fingers about any European tribes that were conquered in the rise of your particular ones in a bid to make themselves feel like a small part of the problem: you really would do well to accept your descendant's deeds on this continent without looking to find a way to say: but you did this to those other Africans. It was our land then, we didn't share it nicely like we should have amongst ourselves. It is our land now, you included, because of the grace of some great men and women who have made it so despite their experiences. This new understanding we have, does Not wipe away the past. The people shall sing what is meaningful to them.

    • @wernerempire
      @wernerempire 10 років тому

      Appreciate your opposing inhumane means of conquering. I also agree each group has its own sins to atone for. It seems that in South Africa however we talk and act as if only one group (whites) have anything to atone for. You are a rare person that is willing to admit that black people may ever have done anything wrong. This means many people put themselves on a moral pedestal and don't feel the need for introspection. With regards to your other point. The rise of a pan-African or pan-European identity is a relatively recent phenomenon. Africans and Europeans had tribal identities for a very long time. The rise of the nation state is relatively recent (19th century) as is the concept of a pan- Eurpean identity. So the real issue we are talking about is tribes and or nation states taking land from each other for self enrichment. In that sense what difference is there between a war between the Franks and the Goths and the Zulus and the Xhosa's. Or the Dutch and the Xhosa's. Only the location and the colour of the skins differ. Essentially one group is dispossessing another. Do you consider the Berbers of North Africa to be African? If so the invasion of Spain by Tariq ibn Ziyad from North Africa, started an occupation that lasted 7 centuries. Have people from North Africa apologised for that? In the 16th - 18th century, Africans enslaved 1.5 million White Europeans in the Barbary Slave Trade. African Muslims raided up the coastlines of Europe, as far as Iceland, kidnapping and enslaving White European Christians. The men were galley slaves, and the women were sex slaves. My ancestors came here in 1672, and yet you say that I may only be here or call myself African because of the 'grace' of certain African leaders. These are the same leaders who never appologised for their violence against and dispossesion of non-Bantu/Nguni Africans. Does the same apply to black Africans who emigrate to Europe or America? How do you feel about Asians immigrating here. Are they also only allowed to call themselves South African because of the 'grace' of a black African? You seem like a reasonable person, but I still get the impression that at the end of the day you are still saying Africa for the ethnic black Nguni/Bantu only. All others whites, San, Khoi-Khoi, Asian - are not really wanted or accepted here.

    • @Thegreatest342
      @Thegreatest342 8 місяців тому

      ​@@wernerempireso are you telling me the san were closer to the white colonizers who exterminated them.
      Than the tswanas and the sothos who look almost identical to the san.
      You white colonizers must stop the games and the lies.

  • @colbynpretoria
    @colbynpretoria 9 років тому +27

    I love this song.

  • @escargot8854
    @escargot8854 3 роки тому +12

    Still listening in 2021. Great job leading the country in a song that highlights the truth of the past. You honor Mendela by rubbing the comfortable people the wrong way

  • @thinker1164
    @thinker1164 4 роки тому +14

    Puppets we see you!
    What's controversial about this song?

  • @tiyiselaMpuzana
    @tiyiselaMpuzana 10 років тому +30

    This is a protest song of a people who were crying for their land. The sad reality is that the message of this song still resonates with some of us today. The land that was stolen from black people has still not been restored back to its rightful owners. There can never be true reconciliation without redress of past imbalances. The enforcement of a collective amnesia on the majority of the people will not work. No matter how long it takes, the land shall be returned to its rightful owners.

  • @daryltaylor7984
    @daryltaylor7984 10 років тому +9

    Leave it to CNN International to start some isht. This song was spontaneously sung by supporters outside of the court after the verdict sentencing Nelson Mandela to life in prison was read. It is historical and absolutely appropriate for this gathering.

    • @wernerempire
      @wernerempire 10 років тому

      Do you know any sad, historically appropriate songs mourning the dispossession of the San by the Bantu tribes Daryl?

    • @marilyn3876
      @marilyn3876 10 років тому

      wernerempire Maybe you would be the best candidate to compose some songs for them Mr Hero. Let it be known that not all white people were evil during Colonisation and Apartheid and in the same breath not all black people have forgiven white people. Finish en klaar! People need to vent, to let out, to let it go! Not at some fast tracked speed that suits the government! Saying Im sorry will not bring back missing family members or limbs! This is what I think about the San vs the 'Bantu'.... All over Africa clans had a way of gaining land and making their armies bigger, by conquering their neighbours' land, women and etc... It was a family thing! Call it black on black violence if you like... But everyone knew how it happened and everyone was willing to fight and protect their land, until the last breath... Then the mess came in their ships and ruined it for everyone! Why couldnt they do it in their own lands? You will forever be bothered by black people because your soul knows what your home is like and where it is and yet you want to recreate it here in Africa, no bhuti go home. Where your elders lie. Khumbulekhaya! Your anger will dissolve. STop playing victim where whites are concerned but Mr Hero for the San people. I am sure that they are more than capable of speaking up. Like us.

    • @wernerempire
      @wernerempire 10 років тому

      So black on black genocide is cool with you. Just as long as it's not the whites doing it. Interesting. No wonder Africa will never be rid of black dictators like Idi Amin and Robert Mugabe oppressing their own people. It's because folks like you think that black on black oppression is a family thing which is just cool. I would urge you to reconsider. Please hold black tyrants to the same standards of accountability you demand from whites.

    • @Thegreatest342
      @Thegreatest342 8 місяців тому

      ​@@wernerempiregive me evidence mr white man.
      Because I never see actual san people spreading hatred on black south africans.
      Only white and coloured colonizers who want to divide and conquer.
      Black south Africans share a similar Capoid ancestor with the khoi and san.
      They are our brothers and sisters.

  • @Mntungwa77
    @Mntungwa77 8 років тому +17

    Love the song very much! Let's sing these songs to keep remembering where we come from, lest we forget!!!

  • @87spiral
    @87spiral 10 років тому +87

    This song forces people of every race to acknowledge the atrocities committed in the recent past and it is for this reason, that this mournful harrowing song is abhorred by most, because it forces us to face the moments which history would have us forget. But true reconciliation can only be achieved through reflection.
    Stop being so angry all the time, God bless you all.

    • @wernerempire
      @wernerempire 10 років тому

      Mosuwe, although I agree with the sentiment of your message, I wonder why bantu people in South Africa have never apologized to the San people for violently driving them of their land. Surely that would be the decent thing to do even though it happened long ago? Could it be that be people prefer to view themselves as victims rather than perpetrators, as it gives them the moral high ground? I think all of us,black and white in SA have been guilty of that.

    • @87spiral
      @87spiral 10 років тому +3

      Weenerempire, First of all you've given me flashbacks with the use of the word "Bantu" direct translation humans or people.
      Which is all that black people in this country have ever sought to be Human,
      But an elitist minority (Divine law setting them as Guardians of a land allotted to them by Birthright and Conquest) sought to strip us not only of land and natural resources but our dignity, our Humanity.
      Secondly your theory is that since everybody is wrong, there is no victim and therefore no crime?
      The sad reality is that S.A has had its Truth and Reconciliation Committees, which goes to prove that it is easier to forgive than it is to forget.

    • @wernerempire
      @wernerempire 10 років тому +1

      No Mosuwe I think you have misunderstood my point. I never said there were no crimes or victims. What I am saying is that your and my ancestors have taken land from other people.
      If there are crimes then we are all guilty and should stop pointing fingers at others as if they are the ONLY guilty ones and we are perfect and innocent. This is what I feel many black people tend to do. Because they have predominantly been victims in relatively recent history, they think they are incapable of such behaviour, and even think that they could never do such things themselves. This leaves them with a false sense of their own lack of historical guilt, as well as their current capability for doing wrong. Just look at the corrupt behaviour of most African leaders in the AU at the expense of their own people. Yet they never get held to account, because 'blacks can only be victims'. Not perpetrators.
      This is the history of mankind. People acting in their own selfish interest. The reality is that South Africa was not your land when your Nguni ancestors arrived here many centuries ago, just as it was not my ancestors land when they arrived in the 1650's. Both our ancestors TOOK land. The acts are morally equivalent, just seperated by time. Yesterday the head of the San and Khoikhoi organisation in South Africa filed a claim with the government to claim ALL of South African land. What are you going to say to him?
      Lastly when my distant ancestor left Europe in 1670 to come to SA, it was because Holland was overpopulated. His driving force was economic. He would likely never have seen a black person before, so I doubt he was wringing his hands with glee at the chance to go and humiliate some black people in Africa. Rather he was desperate for a job. (the same kinds of forces of economics and warfare that caused your Nguni ancestors to be forced to migrate South). When he arrived here he worked as a gardener.... hardly a rich man.
      Am I saying all this to say whites never did anything wrong?Absolutey not. What I am simply asking for, is an acknowledgement that black people are capable of, and have historically done similar things.

    • @dumisanid8733
      @dumisanid8733 6 років тому +6

      Thats absolute rubbish. Dont come and use your divide and conquer techniques that have been long used by your ancestors to enslave the entire world. The Khoi people have lived in the western parts of southern Africa. There is no evidence of them living the the KZN and Mpumalanga. Lets not forget that the Khoi people are Africans. unlike settlers who came and killed their way into being oppressors

    • @thabanindlovu3682
      @thabanindlovu3682 4 роки тому +1

      The commentors are to turnish President Zuma's image but Madiba is happy wherever he is because Zuma sang the song that made him to be arrested.
      Mandela was not alone when drafting the TRC and reconciliation.

  • @TheButhelezis
    @TheButhelezis 6 років тому +13

    Listened to the song 5 times already,i'm yet to hear controversy in the song,nc nc nc nc now every Tom, Dick, and Harry happens to have a say about our Country

  • @takalaniphungela3436
    @takalaniphungela3436 6 років тому +5

    This song is not controversial, he's just stating the plain truth

  • @geraldinparagasen6098
    @geraldinparagasen6098 2 роки тому +7

    A remembered moment of history the song of choice was appropriate as Mandela was a reflection of the past and present South Africa 🇿🇦. Thank you Mr President Jacob Zuma

  • @eberhard1991
    @eberhard1991 8 років тому +111

    People this are not controversial songs as you say. This are historical songs. They tell us about our struggle and fight for democracy. You only complain when it's done in Africa. Recently Oxford University, a prestigious school taught by renown intellects refuse to remove the statue of Rhode. Why? because they believe it's part of their history. So we will sing our liberation struggle songs where some people feel offended or not.

    • @PharmD2be1
      @PharmD2be1 7 років тому +4

      +STU is the land not Africans? Are we not the true inhabitants of the land? So, you'd be mad if Native Americans sung this song in the US too. Such ignorance. Never discovering always taking.

    • @greenleader758
      @greenleader758 6 років тому

      then can i sing Die Stem?

    • @salemthorup9536
      @salemthorup9536 6 років тому

      Kanyanga Eberhard, the song would be less controversial if Zuma had not sung about shooting and killing white people. Also, there are thousands being murdered for their skin color.

    • @greenleader758
      @greenleader758 6 років тому

      the stem isnt controversial either

    • @zivanaimaposa5618
      @zivanaimaposa5618 6 років тому

      Thank you

  • @SAOnPoint
    @SAOnPoint 3 роки тому +3

    This song is more like a prayer song to us black people....Please leave black people alone

  • @tlhalefangsenne8884
    @tlhalefangsenne8884 6 місяців тому +2

    Controversial for who, indeed the land must be left alone, it indeed belongs to no man alone ...

  • @phikondzamela2992
    @phikondzamela2992 6 років тому +4

    OH! A global icon, Hero of the nation, He made himself a ransom for South Africa to be a better place. No patriot that we can compare with him.

  • @nontuthuzelombo1923
    @nontuthuzelombo1923 2 місяці тому +1

    It will never be controversial to all of us South who knows South African History .It is a reminder and the lesson to all who want to know the story of Blacks during the colonization.

  • @edwardsangomakhumalo2915
    @edwardsangomakhumalo2915 3 роки тому +7

    Controversial or not.....we'll continue singing it

  • @normanmkhulisi680
    @normanmkhulisi680 5 місяців тому +1

    Surely President Msholozi you've been purposed and you have envisioned for the return of black man's land and truly you will prophesy that till your last breath as a Pan Africanist.
    Salute Baba, surely some of your works go ahead of you and some follow behind you.

  • @senzie303
    @senzie303 7 років тому +3

    The comment made by the female anchor about the song being inappropriate annoys me to the high heavens. Wanting reconciliation and inclusiveness doesn't mean that we need to act like everything is okay, hold hands and sing kumbaya. We might be free from apartheid rule but we are still oppressed economically...we are still on the back foot. Of course WE WANT OUR LAND BACK.

  • @matomehlako5965
    @matomehlako5965 9 років тому +6

    What a humble song by my president 👌👍

  • @LowellBDennyIII
    @LowellBDennyIII 8 років тому +23

    I want to learn this song. I must learn this song. I want to learn the song for itself, but if it irritates white settlers and refuses to accept land theft by whites of African lands: I am OBLIGED to learn it. The revolution has not been concluded.
    These CNN commentators can rot

    • @tryingmybest206
      @tryingmybest206 8 років тому

      +Lowell Denny Hey I'm white and for me it's totally okay. It's just about the history. Nobody actually thinks it should be the case today.

    • @tryingmybest206
      @tryingmybest206 8 років тому

      ***** Yeah that's just some of them. Not all black people work together or are the same brah.

    • @tryingmybest206
      @tryingmybest206 8 років тому

      ***** Lol I never said the murders or White genocide was okay. Just that not every black person does it

    • @tryingmybest206
      @tryingmybest206 8 років тому

      ***** Neither side is in te right, Let's just forget about the past and move on as equals.

    • @tryingmybest206
      @tryingmybest206 8 років тому

      lala lova And which side is that?

  • @braxmh9559
    @braxmh9559 7 років тому +5

    Nothing controversial about this song at all. It remains relevant as long as long as land remains in those thugs.

  • @daryltaylor7984
    @daryltaylor7984 10 років тому +7

    I disagree with Mr. Shubane, who seems to suggest that in the next reconciliation, Black South Africans should stop singing the song because it irritates Afrikkaners. Tough. Apartheid did a lot more than irritate Blacks and Coloreds - it killed thousands of them in the name of racial superiority.

  • @phililemchunu607
    @phililemchunu607 10 років тому +35

    This is a very powerful song! And yes it is sung when a freedom fighter is being laid to rest. I am 110% Zulu. And I will gladly translate the song you'll
    The song is called "Thina Sizwe"/ us as the nation (the black nation to be precise)
    Thina sizwe esim'nyama( we as the black nation), sikhalela izwe lethu( we cry or weep for our country or land), elathathwa abamhlophe (that was taken from us by the white oppressors...
    Mabaw'yeke umhlaba wethu- (they must leave our country or land alone)!............................
    how is this song controversial?? The lyrics are only facts, vele the truth hurts!

    • @graceandpeace4414
      @graceandpeace4414 6 років тому

      philile mchunu Thank you for translating. I've heard the song before,but being an American black, didn't know the words. Beautiful truth!

    • @graceandpeace4414
      @graceandpeace4414 6 років тому +2

      philile mchunu also, unfortunately many people still do not understand European colonialism and imperialism and its effect it is still having today.

    • @dumisanid8733
      @dumisanid8733 6 років тому

      Dont even bother translating for them. Why should we learn their langauges while they dont learn ours

  • @fullmetalprism5249
    @fullmetalprism5249 6 років тому +7

    Damn Juma - what a voice😀

  • @nipho91
    @nipho91 10 років тому +6

    Zuma talks LEFT but walks RIGHT.

    • @sowhat305
      @sowhat305 6 років тому

      nipho91 The whole bloody ANC

  • @nkosininkosi2614
    @nkosininkosi2614 4 роки тому +4

    Indeed this is a great song and must remembered. It is not contravention

  • @sphemakh
    @sphemakh 10 років тому +6

    Oh come on people, there is nothing inapropriate in president Zuma singing this song. He is singing it in memory of his comrad, its not intended to offend anyone but as a reminder of what Rolihlahla Mandela and others like him rescued us from. This idea that black people must refrain from saying things that will rubb people the wrong way is just stupid. Reconciliation is not about forgerting the past. We have forgiven, but we will not forget; these songs are part of the very fabric of our journey to freedom, if anyone is offended by them its too bad.

    • @sphemakh
      @sphemakh 10 років тому

      Anthony VersterI don't give a shit what you call us. That's a reflection on you, not on black people. The song doesn't advocate violence, its actually a call to the apartheid government to stop the violence and treat everyone the same. If you think democracy is a shitty plan, then you have a serious problem. We already spent spent 300 years in subjugation, shame on us if we still avoid doing things because we don't want to offend some white supremacist idoiots.

    • @OKUHLEMZINYATHI100
      @OKUHLEMZINYATHI100 10 років тому +1

      Anthony Verster but at the end of the day 80% of african land is still on EUROPIAN hands.....so that is ok with you???

    • @vusikhayanonkwelo6733
      @vusikhayanonkwelo6733 10 років тому

      Anthony Verster You are so CLUELESS. You must notice that all the African leaders who took care of black people's interest after the struggle against the White man always end up being called dictators, bad rulers and all that negative stuff. In reality, white people still possess the wealth and resources they stole during Colonisation and in the South African context, during colonisation and Apartheid. Therefore, when black governments get into power, they have to adress the imbalance of wealth by taking back the land, nationalising the mines, health, education and sometimes agriculture. When this happens, white people hate it and the so called powers of the world do everything in their power to make it look like we cannot rule ourselves. So the failing of African economies is not because black leaders cannot rule, it is because they genuinely take care of the black man's interests which is something America,and Britain HATE very much.

  • @vladmirrronald5497
    @vladmirrronald5497 3 роки тому +2

    So even people who are oppressed feel that a song that tells the reality of the Black people is controversial.... shit we are loosing the intellectual battle.

  • @nanamalik9052
    @nanamalik9052 5 років тому +2

    Mistep?That young lady doesn't know what those Africans have been through.Sing on,folks.

  • @stacy6447
    @stacy6447 10 років тому +4

    I don't know why people offended by this song. Its time to take back what is rightfully there's. I salute the Great Ledgend Mr Nelson Mandela " Its seems impossible until it is done and it is done"

    • @wernerempire
      @wernerempire 10 років тому

      Great Ann! So you're saying the San should take back the land from white and bantu people. I'm with you girl!

  • @simangalisomzimela9662
    @simangalisomzimela9662 3 роки тому +2

    controversial to who? suddenly the truth becomes controversial

  • @PresleyDlamini
    @PresleyDlamini 7 років тому +1

    If I could I'd throw a middle finger @ this reporter😡

  • @junehelafine
    @junehelafine 7 років тому +4

    This is no where a song like this is inappropriate for this occasion. May they be reminded that Mandela lived this era and that was a perfect song to sing at the time. Get over yourselves people of ignorance.

  • @tondanimathada3093
    @tondanimathada3093 3 місяці тому +1

    How about the controversy of a black men having to pay more money for land in urban areas while the takers are having it at less cost n less interest rate?

  • @philapjncwane6315
    @philapjncwane6315 9 років тому +11

    We are the sons of the soil, #HumbleAfrican

    • @michaelrose93
      @michaelrose93 9 років тому +1

      +Phila PJ Ncwane < Makes sense, I always wondered where the color came from.

    • @DJbassrevolution
      @DJbassrevolution 8 років тому

      +Phila PJ Ncwane Actually in South Africa at least wouldn't that be white people? Boer, Farmer, person of the land

    • @michaelrose93
      @michaelrose93 8 років тому

      Rhandza Mangwane South Africa would still be populated by barefoot, hut dwelling Zulus if the Whites hadn't shown up. If you get rid of them all, your infrastructure will collapse. Zimbabwe tried it, they went from being "the breadbasket of Africa," down to subsistence level farming. Now, they're begging the Whites to return. qz.com/458137/mugabe-is-asking-back-the-white-farmers-he-chased-away/

    • @michaelrose93
      @michaelrose93 8 років тому

      Rhandza Mangwane There's no mention of China in the Torah either, so? Africa didn't teach the West much, nor did Africans develop the modern technologies we depend on. If Africans ruled the world, we'd still be in the Stone Age. Barefoot hut dwellers.

    • @theMusoni
      @theMusoni 8 років тому

      ***** you must be slow or illiterate, wait you're probably both. The technology you depend on is a recent thing, non of it existed in 23 B.C. The Torah carries history beyond 2000 B.C. The study of the oldest wonder of the world is Egyptology which has given your people careers as Egyptologists, they spend all their lives studying what our ancestors built; can be found in the Torah as well.
      Besides the African slaves were responsible for most of the innovations which were credited to their captors. It's basic son, the captor of the golden goose owns the golden egg the golden goose egg lays.
      You answer me this; why did the Europeans who invaded the US and took the land of the Native Americans not make those Native Americans their slaves. Why did they specifically go to West Africa, where the great Timbuktu was situated where the great Mansa Musa was, the home of civilization?

  • @vusasivedlamini3617
    @vusasivedlamini3617 2 роки тому +2

    There can never be any compromise until the land is returned. If somebody breaks into your house,comes back and apologize, the best way to start that apology is to return the stolen goods then we talk about reconciliation. In fact there was never any genuine reconciliation without the subject of land reforms being at the core of those discussions.

  • @stacy6447
    @stacy6447 10 років тому +15

    Best song for 2013 and beyond

  • @rakagal
    @rakagal 10 років тому +5

    Please the name of the song???? i really want to download it

  • @qedabeda3349
    @qedabeda3349 10 років тому +2

    Ngiyalithanda lelihubo(Love this hymn)

  • @evenoliankosi4720
    @evenoliankosi4720 2 роки тому +1

    WTF did this guy just say 😆 I can't believe he just said that 🤮 the audacity 🤢 I'm shocked 🤞 I didn't know this guy until this interview and that's all I'll ever know him of 💩

  • @numbaONEhustla1
    @numbaONEhustla1 2 роки тому

    It causes irritation to the land thieves not to natives.

  • @shayansk9
    @shayansk9 3 роки тому +1

    Controversial?! Get outta here! It's a song to move mountains.

  • @kwandangubo3666
    @kwandangubo3666 6 місяців тому +1

    We love you msholozi✊🏻

  • @mcphersonmgondwe80
    @mcphersonmgondwe80 8 років тому +6

    This was beautiful!!

  • @user-fb5vj7ko1l
    @user-fb5vj7ko1l Місяць тому

    Every time I hear this song,I get very emotional 😢. It reminds me of the 1976 happenings in Soweto where I almost died in the violence against the imposing of Maths in Afrikaans teaching.
    I will never forget those days😢

  • @sibusisokunene5609
    @sibusisokunene5609 10 років тому +1

    yah, the impact of apartheid will never be forgetten

    • @anthonyverster4246
      @anthonyverster4246 10 років тому

      That's why your country is going down the drain and all their Parliament!

  • @lonwabotembani6420
    @lonwabotembani6420 Рік тому

    The only President that is humble enough to sing.

  • @nduduzodlamuka9364
    @nduduzodlamuka9364 2 роки тому +1

    Everything is unfolding now ☹️

  • @uduakukekpe6758
    @uduakukekpe6758 8 років тому +2

    Real RESPECT for the man.

  • @CSA_18
    @CSA_18 8 місяців тому +2

    We still want our Land from the boers

  • @lungisani8113
    @lungisani8113 2 роки тому +1

    How and why is this controversial???

  • @vuyisilejuqula4287
    @vuyisilejuqula4287 7 місяців тому

    What is controversial about saying; " We are crying for out land that was taken by others".
    He'll with stealing being called controversial....😢

  • @williammchizambande8874
    @williammchizambande8874 9 років тому

    I don't know any other president who sings better than this!

  • @tactical-masterclass9408
    @tactical-masterclass9408 4 роки тому +1

    The song unites us and is not controversial at all. We must remind each other that many of us are landless because of apartheid and colonialism. When we sing "Shosholoza" to cheer the springboks, they forget exactly what the song is about and pretend it's our 2nd national anthem. Izwe Lethu!

  • @musdef15
    @musdef15 10 років тому +10

    What's wrong with this song???

    • @AfircaUhuru777
      @AfircaUhuru777 10 років тому +4

      Absolutely nothing.

    • @phoenixrising427
      @phoenixrising427 10 років тому +1

      AfircaUhuru777 still stuck in the dark comrade?

    • @AfircaUhuru777
      @AfircaUhuru777 10 років тому +1

      phoenixrising427 If knowing our history and having an intimate understanding of its effects to be able to come up with solutions for the future even beyond my own lifetime is being stuck in the dark, then i am not only stuck i am entrenched. Question, if that is being in the dark, what would being in the light be?

    • @tiagoserafim7739
      @tiagoserafim7739 8 років тому

      +Musa Zwane What's wrong with your heads?

    • @phoenixrising427
      @phoenixrising427 8 років тому

      are you so ignorant?

  • @uhmmserrs5430
    @uhmmserrs5430 Рік тому

    This is our National Anthem✊🏽

  • @bashirfaraah8579
    @bashirfaraah8579 3 роки тому

    I'm wonder if he knew he will be in jail

  • @nhlanhlamsweli5055
    @nhlanhlamsweli5055 6 років тому +1

    CNN please leave Zuma alone

  • @butimotloung9785
    @butimotloung9785 10 років тому +3

    What is controverseas about the song? Zuma is stating a historical truth: Africans want their land that was taken by whites. The only problem is that he is just singing and has no intention and political will to restore the land to its rightful owners. This has been the ANC's position since 1994. The song is sung to fool those who are ignorant of the ANC's commitment to the continued dispossession of Africans.

    • @wernerempire
      @wernerempire 10 років тому +1

      Buti I absolutely agree with you. Maybe you can write a song for us in which the president sings about how sad he is about the land that bantu people violently took from the San when they arrived here from further up in Africa. But I never hear black people talk about that. I wonder why?

    • @OKUHLEMZINYATHI100
      @OKUHLEMZINYATHI100 10 років тому

      wernerempire there is no such thing

  • @homeofserenityandscenery1312
    @homeofserenityandscenery1312 Місяць тому

    Not controversial at all. This is a perfect representation of the life of Mandela

  • @romeovanstaden8503
    @romeovanstaden8503 Місяць тому

    ❤proudly south African

  • @phumelela5971
    @phumelela5971 2 роки тому +1

    On of the Best moments in our lifetime

  • @eped2556
    @eped2556 3 роки тому +3

    He sang it very well. Zuma is a good singer

  • @nonkululekomkhwanazi6002
    @nonkululekomkhwanazi6002 3 роки тому +3

    Ain’t nothing controversial about this song coz it’s the truth

  • @sicelomusi5019
    @sicelomusi5019 8 місяців тому

    Arguably one of the most prolific moments of his presidency.

  • @luzukomaneli9768
    @luzukomaneli9768 3 роки тому +1

    No leadership would have sang this song. President Zuma was very brave to sing it in this gathering...

  • @LKemp-lr1ky
    @LKemp-lr1ky 6 років тому +2

    They sure can sing!!

  • @thulanincobela5878
    @thulanincobela5878 6 місяців тому

    I still would like to be enlightened as to what’s controversial about this song???

  • @phikondzamela2992
    @phikondzamela2992 6 років тому

    oh! the son of soil, thank you tata, South Africa lost, icon, Patriot and our hero, you remind us back.

  • @angelicalulu9853
    @angelicalulu9853 4 роки тому +1

    Are these people even from South Africa? What rubs me up the wrong way is when people from other nations assume to know the problems of our country. Judging by the fact that South Africa is the most unequal country in THE WORLD, there absolutely is no need for compromise from black people, saying things that rub people up the wrong way makes them uncomfortable and therefore encourages conversation and change... Never compromise your freedom black child

  • @therealbongamkhize
    @therealbongamkhize 3 місяці тому

    It’s not controversial. It’s South African history.

  • @sandilekheswa5332
    @sandilekheswa5332 10 років тому +2

    There is nothing controversial about this song.