Thanks for the 100 likes on the video and thanks for watching :) Ive been reading a lot of your comments and honestly, i cant believe i havent played Diablo 1 yet. So im considering doing just that and making a video about it. But i also see a lot of people talking about Grim Dawn. Which game should i make my next video about first? Diablo 1 or Grim Dawn? 🤔
The team that made D2 were nerds that grew up reading classic fantasy literature and playing tabletop RPGs. The team that made D4 grew up on Tumblr and watching reality shows
HAHAHA OMG, you absolutely nailed it. These people focused way too much on D3 and on how the game LOOKS, and not nearly enough on mechanics and how the game PLAYS.
@@Vohtwomax I know it's popular to rag on D3, but mechanically that game is really good. It suffered a lot due to other issues, auction house/no ladder on launch/no pvp/bad story/itemization but mechanics wise how it felt to control your character it was always solid. I still prefer D2 overall because it has best itemization of any diablo games, but mechanics wise i would say 3 is better.
@@123dmytro123 No no no, D3 was mechanically awful. I'm not sure you quite know what "mechanics" means. Mechanics is not how your character controls, that is COMBAT. Mechanics is the underlying math that runs the game. I will ask one question of you: Can you wear sword and shield on a Sorceress in D3? No. Ergo, the core mechanics are not as good as D2. You just admitted that the itemization was far better and the items are part of the core mechanics. Skills were not as good, itemization was not as good, crafting was not as good (although there were PARTS of the crafting system that worked). The combat was fun, yes, I agree, and that's what I was hoping for D4 was a marriaage of the MECHANICS of D2 but the "feel" (how it plays) of D3.
👏👏👏👏 @@123dmytro123 D2R release showed how the playerbase just still loves the game.. It still has it's playability after 20+ years.. it brought back old players.. The only downside is the cross-platform split between PC and console users.. Which is weird.. to not have the foresight for that.. as "an issue".. 🤷 blizzard.
They said they wanted to do it like d2 but truly didn’t. And now they think “we tried that and players didn’t like it”. It was nothing like d2 except “dark” graphics-wise. But they still lost the essence of what made d2 good.
Glad to see someone truly get what d2 does right and what many other modern arpgs fail to achieve. I feel d3(while fun in its own way) buried what made d2 so great and kinda laid track for something else. Nowdays, everything is about end game systems and i feel the characters journey has been lost. I never feel i accomplish anything in modern arpgs compared to d2. D2 gives you a sence of fulfillment when all is said and done.
Skip the campaign in D4 an throw my character in a meaningless open world was on big factor that kills D4 for me. I love it to bring my character through the campaign and the Atlas in Poe.
@@interstellartravel Not true at all. Reaper of Souls saved that game and made it playable! Right now I feel Ros is running circles around VoH. Hell I'm even thinking of going back to it.
@@interstellartravel weirdly enough I have amazing memories playing d3 with my friends. Somehow I have totally never played d2 even though i am old enough to could have played it and also always had a pc in our house. I was just playing different games amd none of my friends played it.
Yo me too! The way D2 handles damage is what really makes it for me. In D4 everything just focuses crit strike, shako, tyr's might, and banished lord's talisman. In D2 you have to do different things to get the damage to work out for different classes. Different builds tend to require much different gear as most of the best stats come from gear rather than character abilities, and paragon boards.
D2 is the GOAT. They started out claiming 4 was in the spirit of D2 and it's just degenerated into D3.5, but somehow even worse than D3. PoE2 is bringing me that D2 feeling, and I hope they pull it off
There's a saying in the business realm - you can put in 20% effort to get 80% of the result. The other 80% effort only takes you from 80-100% result. Blizzard seems to have found a way to put in 80% of the effort for only 20% of the result.
you got it right when you said " Diablo 4 is just kinda boring..." Diablo 2 will always be great, Hell, even Diablo 3 is way better than Diablo 4. Great games are a rare thing in current day.
I have played d2, d3 and d4 a lot. D2 about 5000 hours, d3 around 4000 h, d4 around 3000 h, all builds all classes. In the end, i must say, d2 and PD2 is the best. Amaizing game.
Thats next on my list to play on my streams! I have played it before, a long time ago but only got through the campaign once. Hopefully can get the DLCs sometime and enjoy the full experience, but great game!
Same here. Always loved D2 and never quite quit playing d2r. Even tried d4 for a few months, but it just felt underwhelming. Guess I'll do the d2r seasons until the end of times!
Runewords are in d4 in the form of crafting mythics. You can either farm uber bosses for mythics or craft a specific one with runes and resplendent sparks.
Idk I think D2 runewords are just greatly overpowered stat sticks. I’m not seeing what’s interesting about having 30 affixes on one piece of gear. It also completely destroys other options/variety. D2 is just equip best runewords. Do baal runs. Amazing.
Honestly d4 would have been significantly better if the devs stuck with a direction. They claim they wanted to make a game closer to d2, and the gear and leveling grind are definitely closer to d2. Yet the player speed and damage is far closer to d3. And those two philosophies and fan bases directly clash with each other. If they chose a direction snd stuck with it, there wouldn't be this weird middle ground thay just comes off as okay with no depth. Its sad bc d4 had promise and still does, but without them commuting to a style it will never realize its promise.
While I did play D2 (and the original Diablo) 25 years ago plus, I also have recently returned to my happy place which is Diablo II. Specifically, I'm onboard with the Project Diablo 2 conversion for the original D2 (not remastered). My favorite thing in PD2 is the use of loot filtering and I highly recommend the experience. I guess some people really appreciate the updated graphics of the remastered addition; but I have nostalgia for the way it looked when it first came out.
1:33 I never understood these religious parents that didn't allow their kids to play Diablo, the game's main quest is literally killing the Devil, Diablo. What more holy driven quest do they want? My mother is a really religious woman but I managed to play both Diablo I and II, she didn't aprove them, but I got green light at least haha
Vessel felt like they forgot to put the second half of the story. Give Mephisto boss battle and give us actual Mephisto instead of following around the girl...
I enjoyed your perspective, very similar to my own as when I was young seeing Diablo on store shelves I knew better than to ask my mom to by me "Demon" the game.
I started playing diablo 2 over 20 years ago and just started playing it again because it re released. I remembered hacking the crap out of characters using diabolic and other character editors and taking them onto open bnet and testing them out against other hacked characters. This time around im just playing to play.
I just feel stupid actually. I really don't know why i felt blizzard care about their diablo franchise after so many years gone. Probably since the launch only 10-20 People working on the game, they dont want to invest any more, because the money is still flowing with the lowest investment as possible. If they would really care, they could answer why d4 skill system is the most tedious among all the arpgs came into existence last 15 year. Or why the gearing is soo fucking bad even after loot reborn in season 4. There are couple elements i like in this game but it's really not enough. I really like the heartseeker rogue, but if i want to push pit there is no other option besides the only 1 build you can follow, otherwise you gonna stuck around pit 70-80. Also after 6 seasons, i just feel legendary aspects starts to become even more useless than before. I made a chain lightning sorceress and only 2 item was not unique or mythic. I had only room for 2 aspect. Whats the matter to have 200 aspect if you can't even use them
Diablo is the one that started it all not Diablo 2. I played all of them. I had that game on my ps1 and loved it. Then I played D2 on pc a few years off and on afterwards. Got into D3 late. Really enjoyed the last couple seasons before the release of D4 because the devs implemented most of what the community has been asking for years. Then I played D2R and loved that as well. When D4 came out, I stuck with it through all the changes. Devs really didn’t have a clear direction of where to go with it. Got the expansion. Had fun with it but again no clear direction of what to do with it. That’s what happens when the one in charge is more interested in what corporate wants instead of what players want. Had my fill of the games. Thanks for the video.
I play Diablo 2 Resurrected instead of Diablo 4 because i am sick of that whole balancing stuff. That annoys the sh*t out of me. AND you can only play it online. If they ever shut off the servers you aren't able to play it anymore.
Project Diablo 2 is the best alternate timeline for diablo if development never stopped. Playing it now in on 144fps HDR with quality of life features and new runewords and best drop rates is a Godsend. on D2R there is D2R remodded or D2R Reinmagined mods with similar quality of life or soulstones in the later that lets you summon other classes to level up.
You know what really gripes my ass about D4, and it's necessarily that it isn't very good. What really gets me is that it COULD HAVE been good. If you go back through the devs logs, it actually started off really promising, and somewhere along the way, it went waaaaaay off the rails. They had interesting ideas for Runewords, itemization, skills/builds, and even the open world. D4, to me, is a tragic story of developers who have no business touching a franchise like this and completely squander what could have been. And, while I say this, there is still hope that it'll turn around, but I'm not holding my breath. The amount of fundamental changes that would have to be implemented is, quite frankly, astonishing. Dear Blizzard, if you read this, I have some ideas for ya. They are not the quick or easy fix, but they would be steps in the right direction. I find it very telling that a 20 y/o/ game is far better designed than a 2 year game, and that people still much prefer D2. As for anyone who has read this whole thing and is having fun with D4, good for you. But OBJECTIVE quality is not mutually exclusive to SUBJECTIVE enjoyment. Keep having fun.
I'm playing sacred gold. They dont make games like this anymore. Were the combat is less fast and its more of an adventure or a role playing game with a world to explore and with a lot of emphasis on the gearing and the stat increases Its the game d4 tried to be but made in 2004 in Germany by some dudes lols.
So this video popped up on my feed and I had to take a look. It was well made, so congrats! From one aspiring content creator to another. However, and I don't want you to take this in a bad way, but it's not really anything that I haven't heard before. People seem to have a very nostalgic look about d2 while ignoring a lot of its flaws, while they rarely give the same benefit to other Diablo games. This is coming from a hardcore Diablo fan that has played and loved every single Diablo game, no exceptions. If you're interested in maybe a bit more in-depth opinion, and maybe an opportunity to have your view challenged, I'd be happy to make a sort of reaction with my opinion on it. Either way, thankfully there is game out there for everyone :)
The only thing that diablo4 had going for it was the race to the top 1000 hardcore statue. I placed in the 700s and haven’t touched the game since. It wasn’t fun, at all.
The itemization issue: d2. A shako drops, youre getting a shako. We know the stats of it. How good it is on multiple classes.. and we can USE it on multiple classes.. D3: (possibly d4, 🤷 havent played it) A shako drops and its fkn worthless for any build. 😂 That is a main reason why D3 had gabage itemization and The RMAH showed how crap everyones drops were.. because they werent even selling. They ended up removing the whole money aspect.... Meanwhile these D2R shops operate online, basically unhindered... Alot of stuff thats uh... "Noticable"
Diablo 4 misses the most important things that make a good arpg - loot is boring, leveling is boring and insignificant, combat is cool but at the end game is just flashing exploding screens of numbers and effects
Agree with everything above. I put in a LOT of time into D4, always hoping it would get better. It didn't. I also want to mention that leveling up your gear, i.e. masterworking, is the new pain point. If you have a job and a life outside of this game, you can forget about min-maxing your character, which by the way, is a joy to do in D2(R). In D4, a meticulously farmed cache of materials over several days evaporates in minutes into the maw of RNG/masterworking. It's like putting every one of your hard-earned paychecks into a slot machine, with approximately the same results. Eventually your family leaves you. I am looking forward to PoE2. If the promise is real, that is where my time and money is going next. Time to rid myself of this gambling habit, that I did not know I had before I touched D4.
Feels so good to see another youtuber showing the problems with Diablo 4. For a company that already made such D2 to make these mistakes on D4 i think it's sad... and money focused... I hope they will listen to the community and make the game more fun and variable. Until POE 2 come out, i'm on last epoch or something else
They announced runewords for D4 years before it came out and they decided it needed more time to cook, and this is what they served? I didn't buy Vessel of Hatred either. I'm playing modded Diablo and Diablo 2 until Path of Exile 2 comes out.
For me it’s the itemization, d4 items are so bland and the lack of trading makes online meaningless to me. D2 has a bot problem because the items are desirable, there will always be people trying to cheat when you are allowed to trade freely and there is a high demand for something. They made D4 itemization/trading worse for the sake of trying to get rid of bots at the expense of gutting the better and harder to maintain system. Of course there will be less bots when no one gives a shit about items and trading.
I do agree with you on rune words that they aren't as rewording as in D2, and some other things like boss fighting. But overall i have to say that D4 is a good mix of D1-D3 especially now after the expansion, Where the items you are picking up and use does matter even if the weapon you are picking up maybe only gives you 20 extra to strength and dmg . Is there room for improvement yes and the devs know that and have made the room bigger, thanks to the first patch before season 1 that nerfed everything and all the other patches, if u search for d4 demo blizzcon 2019 you will se that, they are trying to fullfil what they said there but in a way so they can expand the games life span even after expansion 5🤔 it's not that hard to see 🤔 They don't want D4 to Die after 5 expansions, and I honestly don't think that they want to make the game be in its top state com expansion 5 I think that they will hit that before and I think they are pretty close because they have in a way confirmed it, " the game is in a state where we want it so we can continue building on it to improve it" And bugs every game have bugs. Some more than others, but I have to say that the D4 team is doing a good job to ensure that we can play, and they get a lot of shit for it and that i can't understand. It's an online based game and it makes sense that there are bugs Is it a better game than D3 yes, is it better than D2 but it's on its way up to be beside D2 and it has the potential, is it better than D1 well in my eyes it's like comparing D2 and D3 they are totally different games, but that said D4 has more of D1 than D3 in a way because the items progress and other implementations , but I do hope to see Leoric make a comeback, and of course we will get to fight Diablo. Overall D2 is the emperor of aprg And for me D4 is second, I have played all Diablo games yes I played D1 on a computer back in 97 I'm that old, I haven't played Poe I have tried it, for me it was a mix of Titan Quest and D2 and it didn't work for me, and I have played sacred 1 that is a great game, I haven't played sacred 2 I haven't played the last epoch but I will when they release it to Ps5
Im still waiting for fangs if asterkarn expansion for grimdawn. Over 5 years and theyre coming out with a third dlc. Nice surprise. Playing some PoE and morrowind in the meantime.
I think I'm in a toxic relationship with D4.. i gave her so many chances and she failed me every single time 😂 the problem is that i hope this game will be great at some point and the moment never comes. Today new bug discovered - antivenin potion gives 15k% hp instead of 15% - it's absolutely huge buff to the hp and all overpower builds. But you'd never guess what happened - after changing difficulties i lost few of my items which included 4ga starless 😂 and now I know they will hotfix this new bug the moment i finish my new 150 pit necro build so im not starting.. 😂 such an indie game
I played through all the D4 seasons but did not buy the overpriced p2w expansion. Ultimately I realized the game is just bland and recently uninstalled. I bought and played through D2R when it came out, but then moved on to New World since that was the plan. Recently I decided to try out Project Diablo 2 and I'm really enjoying it due to all the QoL upgrades. I don't mind the legacy graphics, just can't beat the gameplay/environment and sound/music. D2 feels and sounds so much darker than D4 or D3, despite the developers saying they wanted to make D4 darker, they failed big time. In D2 monsters will literally rush out of the darkness at you, better be on your toes!
diablo 2 is great man. the modding community is amazing also. Project diablo 2, eastern sun resurrected, d2 reimagined. once you get done on single player/bnet migrate over to the modded community and treat yoself.
Team Diablo 2 - here is another one 😁 Diablo 4 dont know what it was what it is and not what it will be.... its patchwork only. Blizzard has no love for the franchise. The Skillsystem isnt good, the items arent good.... They told us D4 should be more like D2.. but where are charms, jewels, set, cubing usefull white blur or yellow items... ok i should stoo here or i will summon the evils 😂
lol yeah they added "runewords" but they dont really change the items at all, just an effect. really weird decision especially since a lot of people just run jewels instead anyways since its competing for gear sockets.
dont look at max roll for d2 bro they arnt 100% in the loop so look threw guides from guys who played alot.. u can look up some of my vid on builds but really u are better of using the most op skilles for your norm to hell run and then swap to throw later on when u have a bit of gear :D great vid tho :D
i use all resources as guidelines for builds. Obviously what they say isnt 100% and i know Throw Barbarian is great....but only with gear. Im starting FRESH on ladder so its been rough lol
Diablo 4 is 🔥🔥🔥. Diablo 3 was the first game in the series I've played. My 2 sons and I played a moderate amount of the game. We had fun. I got a Series X and picked up Diablo 4. I didn't play it much until season 4. That season is the first time I've maxed out a character, the necromancer. Season 5 was shortened due to the expansion coming out so I skipped. I'm a single father to 3 kids, my 2 year old daughters mom died when she was a baby, and they all live with me so I don't have much time to play. I created a Spiritborn 3 days after the expansion dropped and it's been a blast. It's way overpowered and I love tweaking the build without assistance from guides. I doubt I will have time to max the character out due to being a parent, but that once again is the goal. Next season I'll try either a barbarian or sorcerer. I'm loving this game and will support it to the end. If anyone reading this can tell me what makes POE special let me know. I've barely heard anything about it and would like to know more. Also, if anyone reading this can sell me on Diablo 2 I'd appreciate it. Basically if I liked Diablo 3 and 4 would I like 2. Thank you
because 4 will be a cash grab for life its obvs lol D4 is a good game but for me persnaly it is a big let down just because of the seasons pass and chosmetics WE used to won those by simply playing now they capitalize on it! that's it! no solo leaderboards! only a week BS Boards!
it definitely feels like VoH at least was a cash grab based on how they handled the story content. I bet next expac theyll give us the class everyone wanted (Paladin) and then also give us the climactic story moment we've all been waiting for....for another $40 lol
The cash shop pissed me off from the start, but I still stuck with it and played through all the seasons. The overpriced p2w expansion was the last straw though, still played the base game to torment 3 this season before finally uninstalling.
Its the Democrats fault for why AAA games suck and are greedy. Blizzard is owned by Microsoft now. Its only a matter of time before Fallout 5 is set in Transylvania with a Male character who transitions into a female to become a Lesbian Vampare is wearing a Pip Boy. sigh.... I might not be called a pip boy anymore. The best part of Diablo 4 is when there was no Diablo.
Personally I play both d2r and d3 I'll never touch d4 for specific reasons, on top of that plus reviews from actual gamers say about the game and imo.....the game sucks.
i think everyone should *try* D4 just to see if/why they dont enjoy it before having an opinion about the game but yeah its hard to find the reasonability to buy it based off reviews from actual players
Stay a while and listen Still. To this day. EPIC And the soundtrack is BEYOND EPIC! Glad I was part of this generation to experience everything - as it happened ! And sorry if I did not said/write it correctly but English is not my language.
Im still playing d2 ladders, im still gonna play d4 and im gonna play poe2 also... How about we start enjoying and celebrate that theres a lot of games to play instead of shitting on other games and divide the arpg community in mindless hate and toxicity?
@@FatalisReigns Dude your whole video is a yapping shitfest, go play diablo 2 all you want but this permanent state of ''disappointment'' will only bring more toxicity like op said.
such a bad take. Imagine thinking that some boring raw 20 stats on one item are better than an actually interesting and thought out gear mechanics in the form of gaining an ability from a different class + damage bonus.. Also, the criticism about D4's world can be also applied to D2. D2 has EMPTY, lifeles world with no activities besides killing mobs.
I feel like the clunkiness is made up for in better everything else. These days it seems like so much importance is put into graphics that everything else is secondary.
ehh set items kinda ruined diablo 3 so i get why they didnt add them. however, if they just had them as niche leveling or farming items like most of the d2 ones, id be okay with that. Problem is when set items are more powerful than uniques.
Both D3 and Diablo 4 are shitty, expensive, boring games! D1 and D2 - D2R are the best! Also i like throw barb a lot too! I'm looking forward to PoE 2 and then Titan Quest 2 and No rest for the wicked.
Thanks for the 100 likes on the video and thanks for watching :) Ive been reading a lot of your comments and honestly, i cant believe i havent played Diablo 1 yet. So im considering doing just that and making a video about it. But i also see a lot of people talking about Grim Dawn. Which game should i make my next video about first? Diablo 1 or Grim Dawn? 🤔
Diablo 1 is fun and shorter but very addicting! It is slower though
The team that made D2 were nerds that grew up reading classic fantasy literature and playing tabletop RPGs.
The team that made D4 grew up on Tumblr and watching reality shows
HAHAHA OMG, you absolutely nailed it. These people focused way too much on D3 and on how the game LOOKS, and not nearly enough on mechanics and how the game PLAYS.
@@Vohtwomax I know it's popular to rag on D3, but mechanically that game is really good. It suffered a lot due to other issues, auction house/no ladder on launch/no pvp/bad story/itemization but mechanics wise how it felt to control your character it was always solid.
I still prefer D2 overall because it has best itemization of any diablo games, but mechanics wise i would say 3 is better.
@@123dmytro123 No no no, D3 was mechanically awful. I'm not sure you quite know what "mechanics" means. Mechanics is not how your character controls, that is COMBAT. Mechanics is the underlying math that runs the game. I will ask one question of you: Can you wear sword and shield on a Sorceress in D3? No. Ergo, the core mechanics are not as good as D2. You just admitted that the itemization was far better and the items are part of the core mechanics. Skills were not as good, itemization was not as good, crafting was not as good (although there were PARTS of the crafting system that worked).
The combat was fun, yes, I agree, and that's what I was hoping for D4 was a marriaage of the MECHANICS of D2 but the "feel" (how it plays) of D3.
@@123dmytro123 I also need to say that I have enjoyed my fair share of D3. I will still play it, on occasion.
👏👏👏👏 @@123dmytro123
D2R release showed how the playerbase just still loves the game..
It still has it's playability after 20+ years.. it brought back old players..
The only downside is the cross-platform split between PC and console users..
Which is weird.. to not have the foresight for that.. as "an issue".. 🤷 blizzard.
They have destroyed D4, they wanted to make it like d2 but d2 did it better, now they wanna make it like d3 but d3 did it better, its just awful
They said they wanted to do it like d2 but truly didn’t. And now they think “we tried that and players didn’t like it”. It was nothing like d2 except “dark” graphics-wise. But they still lost the essence of what made d2 good.
d2 was never the goal of d4? lol theres nothing similar.
@@JFTB-i8y whoooooosh
Apart dark themes and gore it's not even close to Diablo 2
@@EdouardPicard0224 whoooosh
this entire video could have been 1 second : "It's just better."
Glad to see someone truly get what d2 does right and what many other modern arpgs fail to achieve. I feel d3(while fun in its own way) buried what made d2 so great and kinda laid track for something else. Nowdays, everything is about end game systems and i feel the characters journey has been lost. I never feel i accomplish anything in modern arpgs compared to d2. D2 gives you a sence of fulfillment when all is said and done.
D3 was ass, then the expansion released and made it worse.
Skip the campaign in D4 an throw my character in a meaningless open world was on big factor that kills D4 for me.
I love it to bring my character through the campaign and the Atlas in Poe.
@@interstellartravel Not true at all. Reaper of Souls saved that game and made it playable! Right now I feel Ros is running circles around VoH. Hell I'm even thinking of going back to it.
@@interstellartravel weirdly enough I have amazing memories playing d3 with my friends. Somehow I have totally never played d2 even though i am old enough to could have played it and also always had a pc in our house. I was just playing different games amd none of my friends played it.
Yo me too! The way D2 handles damage is what really makes it for me. In D4 everything just focuses crit strike, shako, tyr's might, and banished lord's talisman. In D2 you have to do different things to get the damage to work out for different classes. Different builds tend to require much different gear as most of the best stats come from gear rather than character abilities, and paragon boards.
I nearly wet myself the first time Shako or a high rune dropped in D2. in D4 there is no such feeling.
D2 is the GOAT. They started out claiming 4 was in the spirit of D2 and it's just degenerated into D3.5, but somehow even worse than D3. PoE2 is bringing me that D2 feeling, and I hope they pull it off
theres a reason why i dont buy diablo 4 even though i have money. its just not cool enough to waste money on.
There's a saying in the business realm - you can put in 20% effort to get 80% of the result. The other 80% effort only takes you from 80-100% result. Blizzard seems to have found a way to put in 80% of the effort for only 20% of the result.
you got it right when you said " Diablo 4 is just kinda boring..." Diablo 2 will always be great, Hell, even Diablo 3 is way better than Diablo 4. Great games are a rare thing in current day.
Diablo 3 is by far the worst in the series.
@@interstellartravel that may have been true at D3's launch. have you tried it lately?
@@nicklemieux9816 D3 was better at launch than the expansion.
@@interstellartravel Don't think I've heard anyone say that. care to explain?
I played D4 for the first time during the free trial few weeks back. I leveled a necromancer to lvl 25, got bored, went back to D2.
I have played d2, d3 and d4 a lot. D2 about 5000 hours, d3 around 4000 h, d4 around 3000 h, all builds all classes. In the end, i must say, d2 and PD2 is the best. Amaizing game.
Sorry noob here, what is PD2?
@crunchyman5330 project diablo 2... But i must say Poe 2 looks amaizing 🙂
Grim Dawn is the legacy that Diablo 2 left us.
Thats next on my list to play on my streams! I have played it before, a long time ago but only got through the campaign once. Hopefully can get the DLCs sometime and enjoy the full experience, but great game!
Facts Grim Dawn is one of the best arpgs I’ve ever played! Hit for a week straight while having covid this year
Same here. Always loved D2 and never quite quit playing d2r. Even tried d4 for a few months, but it just felt underwhelming. Guess I'll do the d2r seasons until the end of times!
Runewords are in d4 in the form of crafting mythics. You can either farm uber bosses for mythics or craft a specific one with runes and resplendent sparks.
i didnt say they werent in the game, but the way they are in the game is terrible and boring
Ive been playing D2 on and off since 2003. Just got D2R. Ill keep playing until im dead.
Idk I think D2 runewords are just greatly overpowered stat sticks. I’m not seeing what’s interesting about having 30 affixes on one piece of gear. It also completely destroys other options/variety. D2 is just equip best runewords. Do baal runs. Amazing.
Honestly d4 would have been significantly better if the devs stuck with a direction. They claim they wanted to make a game closer to d2, and the gear and leveling grind are definitely closer to d2. Yet the player speed and damage is far closer to d3. And those two philosophies and fan bases directly clash with each other. If they chose a direction snd stuck with it, there wouldn't be this weird middle ground thay just comes off as okay with no depth. Its sad bc d4 had promise and still does, but without them commuting to a style it will never realize its promise.
I blame d3 streamers for the change in direction. I’m with you, it started off well but then devs lost their balls and the game fell apart
While I did play D2 (and the original Diablo) 25 years ago plus, I also have recently returned to my happy place which is Diablo II. Specifically, I'm onboard with the Project Diablo 2 conversion for the original D2 (not remastered). My favorite thing in PD2 is the use of loot filtering and I highly recommend the experience. I guess some people really appreciate the updated graphics of the remastered addition; but I have nostalgia for the way it looked when it first came out.
1:33 I never understood these religious parents that didn't allow their kids to play Diablo, the game's main quest is literally killing the Devil, Diablo. What more holy driven quest do they want? My mother is a really religious woman but I managed to play both Diablo I and II, she didn't aprove them, but I got green light at least haha
right now is even a better time to play D2R. It's the 22 nights of terror event, everyday there's a special buff, super fun
D4 is just basically d3.5 btw, i wouldnt say d2 is the best arpg but is always fun for me every ladder reset to see what i can achieve and get.
Vessel felt like they forgot to put the second half of the story.
Give Mephisto boss battle and give us actual Mephisto instead of following around the girl...
I enjoyed your perspective, very similar to my own as when I was young seeing Diablo on store shelves I knew better than to ask my mom to by me "Demon" the game.
I started playing diablo 2 over 20 years ago and just started playing it again because it re released. I remembered hacking the crap out of characters using diabolic and other character editors and taking them onto open bnet and testing them out against other hacked characters. This time around im just playing to play.
I just feel stupid actually. I really don't know why i felt blizzard care about their diablo franchise after so many years gone.
Probably since the launch only 10-20 People working on the game, they dont want to invest any more, because the money is still flowing with the lowest investment as possible.
If they would really care, they could answer why d4 skill system is the most tedious among all the arpgs came into existence last 15 year.
Or why the gearing is soo fucking bad even after loot reborn in season 4.
There are couple elements i like in this game but it's really not enough.
I really like the heartseeker rogue, but if i want to push pit there is no other option besides the only 1 build you can follow, otherwise you gonna stuck around pit 70-80.
Also after 6 seasons, i just feel legendary aspects starts to become even more useless than before. I made a chain lightning sorceress and only 2 item was not unique or mythic. I had only room for 2 aspect. Whats the matter to have 200 aspect if you can't even use them
The music, the play, the ambiance, the graphics, the story, the item catalogue …nothing comes close.
Imagine if Bliz put renewed effort into D2?
Diablo is the one that started it all not Diablo 2. I played all of them. I had that game on my ps1 and loved it. Then I played D2 on pc a few years off and on afterwards. Got into D3 late. Really enjoyed the last couple seasons before the release of D4 because the devs implemented most of what the community has been asking for years. Then I played D2R and loved that as well. When D4 came out, I stuck with it through all the changes. Devs really didn’t have a clear direction of where to go with it. Got the expansion. Had fun with it but again no clear direction of what to do with it. That’s what happens when the one in charge is more interested in what corporate wants instead of what players want. Had my fill of the games. Thanks for the video.
I play Diablo 2 Resurrected instead of Diablo 4 because i am sick of that whole balancing stuff. That annoys the sh*t out of me. AND you can only play it online. If they ever shut off the servers you aren't able to play it anymore.
Project Diablo 2 is the best alternate timeline for diablo if development never stopped. Playing it now in on 144fps HDR with quality of life features and new runewords and best drop rates is a Godsend. on D2R there is D2R remodded or D2R Reinmagined mods with similar quality of life or soulstones in the later that lets you summon other classes to level up.
I asked myself the same question.
I dont even like the arpg these days, but d2r has something about it...
good vid.
You know what really gripes my ass about D4, and it's necessarily that it isn't very good. What really gets me is that it COULD HAVE been good. If you go back through the devs logs, it actually started off really promising, and somewhere along the way, it went waaaaaay off the rails. They had interesting ideas for Runewords, itemization, skills/builds, and even the open world. D4, to me, is a tragic story of developers who have no business touching a franchise like this and completely squander what could have been.
And, while I say this, there is still hope that it'll turn around, but I'm not holding my breath. The amount of fundamental changes that would have to be implemented is, quite frankly, astonishing. Dear Blizzard, if you read this, I have some ideas for ya. They are not the quick or easy fix, but they would be steps in the right direction.
I find it very telling that a 20 y/o/ game is far better designed than a 2 year game, and that people still much prefer D2.
As for anyone who has read this whole thing and is having fun with D4, good for you. But OBJECTIVE quality is not mutually exclusive to SUBJECTIVE enjoyment. Keep having fun.
I'm playing sacred gold.
They dont make games like this anymore.
Were the combat is less fast and its more of an adventure or a role playing game with a world to explore and with a lot of emphasis on the gearing and the stat increases
Its the game d4 tried to be but made in 2004 in Germany by some dudes lols.
So this video popped up on my feed and I had to take a look. It was well made, so congrats! From one aspiring content creator to another. However, and I don't want you to take this in a bad way, but it's not really anything that I haven't heard before. People seem to have a very nostalgic look about d2 while ignoring a lot of its flaws, while they rarely give the same benefit to other Diablo games.
This is coming from a hardcore Diablo fan that has played and loved every single Diablo game, no exceptions.
If you're interested in maybe a bit more in-depth opinion, and maybe an opportunity to have your view challenged, I'd be happy to make a sort of reaction with my opinion on it. Either way, thankfully there is game out there for everyone :)
The only thing that diablo4 had going for it was the race to the top 1000 hardcore statue. I placed in the 700s and haven’t touched the game since. It wasn’t fun, at all.
The itemization issue: d2. A shako drops, youre getting a shako. We know the stats of it. How good it is on multiple classes.. and we can USE it on multiple classes..
D3: (possibly d4, 🤷 havent played it)
A shako drops and its fkn worthless for any build.
😂
That is a main reason why D3 had gabage itemization and The RMAH showed how crap everyones drops were.. because they werent even selling. They ended up removing the whole money aspect....
Meanwhile these D2R shops operate online, basically unhindered...
Alot of stuff thats uh... "Noticable"
Diablo 4 misses the most important things that make a good arpg - loot is boring, leveling is boring and insignificant, combat is cool but at the end game is just flashing exploding screens of numbers and effects
Just like D2 damn
Agree with everything above. I put in a LOT of time into D4, always hoping it would get better. It didn't.
I also want to mention that leveling up your gear, i.e. masterworking, is the new pain point. If you have a job and a life outside of this game, you can forget about min-maxing your character, which by the way, is a joy to do in D2(R).
In D4, a meticulously farmed cache of materials over several days evaporates in minutes into the maw of RNG/masterworking. It's like putting every one of your hard-earned paychecks into a slot machine, with approximately the same results. Eventually your family leaves you.
I am looking forward to PoE2. If the promise is real, that is where my time and money is going next. Time to rid myself of this gambling habit, that I did not know I had before I touched D4.
just like every single diablo game..... ppl one shotting mobs.
You should also try sacred series, quite gfx dated yes but still a gem to play 😊
Feels so good to see another youtuber showing the problems with Diablo 4. For a company that already made such D2 to make these mistakes on D4 i think it's sad... and money focused... I hope they will listen to the community and make the game more fun and variable. Until POE 2 come out, i'm on last epoch or something else
They announced runewords for D4 years before it came out and they decided it needed more time to cook, and this is what they served? I didn't buy Vessel of Hatred either. I'm playing modded Diablo and Diablo 2 until Path of Exile 2 comes out.
I play d4 but also I always go back to d2 or pd2 or d2r mainly because of offline play with mods.
I was excited for D3 because of D2. After d3, i was not excited for d4
Diablo3 started it all for me I didn’t have a PC back in the 90s when I was a kid lol 😂
For me it’s the itemization, d4 items are so bland and the lack of trading makes online meaningless to me. D2 has a bot problem because the items are desirable, there will always be people trying to cheat when you are allowed to trade freely and there is a high demand for something. They made D4 itemization/trading worse for the sake of trying to get rid of bots at the expense of gutting the better and harder to maintain system. Of course there will be less bots when no one gives a shit about items and trading.
My problem is I run out of characters in D2R after a few seasons. I have a few mules full of runes already. It’s a headache to clean up stash
Worst 70 bucks I've spent in a while
I have been playing it since 2001 till now.
Diablo 2 is the base game of diablo for me. The seasons changes the meta big time
I do agree with you on rune words that they aren't as rewording as in D2, and some other things like boss fighting.
But overall i have to say that D4 is a good mix of D1-D3 especially now after the expansion,
Where the items you are picking up and use does matter even if the weapon you are picking up maybe only gives you 20 extra to strength and dmg .
Is there room for improvement yes and the devs know that and have made the room bigger, thanks to the first patch before season 1 that nerfed everything and all the other patches, if u search for d4 demo blizzcon 2019 you will se that, they are trying to fullfil what they said there but in a way so they can expand the games life span even after expansion 5🤔 it's not that hard to see 🤔
They don't want D4 to Die after 5 expansions, and I honestly don't think that they want to make the game be in its top state com expansion 5 I think that they will hit that before and I think they are pretty close because they have in a way confirmed it, " the game is in a state where we want it so we can continue building on it to improve it"
And bugs every game have bugs.
Some more than others, but I have to say that the D4 team is doing a good job to ensure that we can play, and they get a lot of shit for it and that i can't understand. It's an online based game and it makes sense that there are bugs
Is it a better game than D3 yes, is it better than D2 but it's on its way up to be beside D2 and it has the potential, is it better than D1 well in my eyes it's like comparing D2 and D3 they are totally different games, but that said D4 has more of D1 than D3 in a way because the items progress and other implementations , but I do hope to see Leoric make a comeback, and of course we will get to fight Diablo.
Overall D2 is the emperor of aprg
And for me D4 is second, I have played all Diablo games yes I played D1 on a computer back in 97 I'm that old, I haven't played Poe I have tried it, for me it was a mix of Titan Quest and D2 and it didn't work for me, and I have played sacred 1 that is a great game, I haven't played sacred 2
I haven't played the last epoch but I will when they release it to Ps5
I don‘t know if it‘s better, but I enjoy Diablo 4 this season. I am playing Necromancer, which is very fun. Not OP.
Yo estoy actualmente jugando Project Diablo 2 y D4 metido en un cajón....
Im still waiting for fangs if asterkarn expansion for grimdawn. Over 5 years and theyre coming out with a third dlc. Nice surprise. Playing some PoE and morrowind in the meantime.
D2r just need qol changes. Stacking filters and minions stays between new games.
Even D3 is way better than D4
I think I'm in a toxic relationship with D4.. i gave her so many chances and she failed me every single time 😂 the problem is that i hope this game will be great at some point and the moment never comes. Today new bug discovered - antivenin potion gives 15k% hp instead of 15% - it's absolutely huge buff to the hp and all overpower builds. But you'd never guess what happened - after changing difficulties i lost few of my items which included 4ga starless 😂 and now I know they will hotfix this new bug the moment i finish my new 150 pit necro build so im not starting.. 😂 such an indie game
They turned d4 into poe with its zoomy visual mess qnd now Poe slows combat down lol
I highly recommend you check out Project Diablo 2. You will never go back once you do.
Really don't get it why d4 is rated higher than d2r on ps5.
Boomer nostalgia goggles
@PrimalDirective me? No. D2r is the better game that's a fact.
Imma be real. I don't think you understand the D4 runes 💀
alright explain what i dont understand then
why. because the god damn ever-fixed memory leak prevents from playing d4 more than a hour.
lol i thought i was the only one with this issue. i cant believe Blizz still hasnt fixed it
D4 has been nerfed into utter trash
I just started playing d2r after getting bored of d4 so far d2r is just as good as d4 but way more grindy
I played through all the D4 seasons but did not buy the overpriced p2w expansion. Ultimately I realized the game is just bland and recently uninstalled.
I bought and played through D2R when it came out, but then moved on to New World since that was the plan.
Recently I decided to try out Project Diablo 2 and I'm really enjoying it due to all the QoL upgrades. I don't mind the legacy graphics, just can't beat the gameplay/environment and sound/music.
D2 feels and sounds so much darker than D4 or D3, despite the developers saying they wanted to make D4 darker, they failed big time. In D2 monsters will literally rush out of the darkness at you, better be on your toes!
Because DII is peak Diablo.
Subbed. D2 was undoubtedly greatest arpg that ever existed and PoE2 aims to surpass that. I think it may even have a throw barb 😉
You still sane!
That is the rune system in d4 now? Underwhelming wow
diablo 2 is great man. the modding community is amazing also. Project diablo 2, eastern sun resurrected, d2 reimagined. once you get done on single player/bnet migrate over to the modded community and treat yoself.
Team Diablo 2 - here is another one 😁
Diablo 4 dont know what it was what it is and not what it will be.... its patchwork only.
Blizzard has no love for the franchise.
The Skillsystem isnt good, the items arent good....
They told us D4 should be more like D2.. but where are charms, jewels, set, cubing usefull white blur or yellow items...
ok i should stoo here or i will summon the evils 😂
Just tell the truth Diablo 4 is 2 hard for you.
@@Łesiek1989No officer Sir ! Its too easy Sir ! What should be hard in this game Sir ? No i dont do sth. illegal Sir.
@@thorbenmeyer152 Torment 4 is not that ez bruh
@@thorbenmeyer152 u know taking build from maxroll and sites like that is like a cheat xd
@@Łesiek1989 Get max armor, max resistence and the right aspects... Up ur glyph to 50 easy T4
Project diablo 2 is the real deal.
D4 < D2R < PD2
So they added runes but not the runewords ? Are you kidding me ? 😂
lol yeah they added "runewords" but they dont really change the items at all, just an effect. really weird decision especially since a lot of people just run jewels instead anyways since its competing for gear sockets.
@FatalisReigns damn that's incredible. They really can't make anything right ! So boring...
dont look at max roll for d2 bro they arnt 100% in the loop so look threw guides from guys who played alot.. u can look up some of my vid on builds but really u are better of using the most op skilles for your norm to hell run and then swap to throw later on when u have a bit of gear :D great vid tho :D
btw i got 6500 hour on d2r haha :D and 16+ years on d2 :D
i use all resources as guidelines for builds. Obviously what they say isnt 100% and i know Throw Barbarian is great....but only with gear. Im starting FRESH on ladder so its been rough lol
Well one is the best arpg ever and the other one is just another one
wait for poe 2
Diablo 4 is 🔥🔥🔥. Diablo 3 was the first game in the series I've played. My 2 sons and I played a moderate amount of the game. We had fun. I got a Series X and picked up Diablo 4. I didn't play it much until season 4. That season is the first time I've maxed out a character, the necromancer. Season 5 was shortened due to the expansion coming out so I skipped. I'm a single father to 3 kids, my 2 year old daughters mom died when she was a baby, and they all live with me so I don't have much time to play. I created a Spiritborn 3 days after the expansion dropped and it's been a blast. It's way overpowered and I love tweaking the build without assistance from guides. I doubt I will have time to max the character out due to being a parent, but that once again is the goal. Next season I'll try either a barbarian or sorcerer. I'm loving this game and will support it to the end. If anyone reading this can tell me what makes POE special let me know. I've barely heard anything about it and would like to know more. Also, if anyone reading this can sell me on Diablo 2 I'd appreciate it. Basically if I liked Diablo 3 and 4 would I like 2. Thank you
im not surprised that literally *every* single time i hear someone praise D4, they *coincidentally* have never played diablo 1 or 2.
Because Diablo 2 is a masterpiece from old times and D4 sucks. That is all you had to say.
D4 is too arcade style… D2R is perfect, well, near perfect. 👌🏼
because 4 will be a cash grab for life its obvs lol D4 is a good game but for me persnaly it is a big let down just because of the seasons pass and chosmetics WE used to won those by simply playing now they capitalize on it! that's it! no solo leaderboards! only a week BS Boards!
it definitely feels like VoH at least was a cash grab based on how they handled the story content. I bet next expac theyll give us the class everyone wanted (Paladin) and then also give us the climactic story moment we've all been waiting for....for another $40 lol
The cash shop pissed me off from the start, but I still stuck with it and played through all the seasons. The overpriced p2w expansion was the last straw though, still played the base game to torment 3 this season before finally uninstalling.
D2 LOD is the best game ever made
Why? Because obviously your brain functions?!
Its the Democrats fault for why AAA games suck and are greedy. Blizzard is owned by Microsoft now. Its only a matter of time before Fallout 5 is set in Transylvania with a Male character who transitions into a female to become a Lesbian Vampare is wearing a Pip Boy. sigh.... I might not be called a pip boy anymore.
The best part of Diablo 4 is when there was no Diablo.
D4 writing went woke for the expansion. It’s trash.
Personally I play both d2r and d3 I'll never touch d4 for specific reasons, on top of that plus reviews from actual gamers say about the game and imo.....the game sucks.
i think everyone should *try* D4 just to see if/why they dont enjoy it before having an opinion about the game but yeah its hard to find the reasonability to buy it based off reviews from actual players
Blizzard is no longer the same, its now just talentless fools making trash games
POE music ftw
Be...because it's better. 😐
Try Project Diablo 2, you would love it
Pd2 and Poe seem to be the only arpgs that do it for me in terms of replay ability and grind enjoyment
Whenever I make a new character in Diablo 2 I find myself thinking "damn this game is good" somewhere in the Cold Plains.
D2 is great d4 is Shit .
So makes sense .
10y later: “why I’m playing Diablo 4 instead of Diablo 6”
10 years later people would still play D2R and compare it to D6
D4 sucks keep D2 alive!
Stay a while and listen
Still. To this day.
EPIC
And the soundtrack is BEYOND EPIC!
Glad I was part of this generation to experience everything - as it happened !
And sorry if I did not said/write it correctly but English is not my language.
Im still playing d2 ladders, im still gonna play d4 and im gonna play poe2 also... How about we start enjoying and celebrate that theres a lot of games to play instead of shitting on other games and divide the arpg community in mindless hate and toxicity?
did i shit on it once in this video? i just said im disappointed and hope they can do better. take your overreaction somewhere else
@@FatalisReigns Dude your whole video is a yapping shitfest, go play diablo 2 all you want but this permanent state of ''disappointment'' will only bring more toxicity like op said.
@@Knufffii cool if you think that but thats not what the video says at all. take your negativity elsewhere
such a bad take. Imagine thinking that some boring raw 20 stats on one item are better than an actually interesting and thought out gear mechanics in the form of gaining an ability from a different class + damage bonus.. Also, the criticism about D4's world can be also applied to D2. D2 has EMPTY, lifeles world with no activities besides killing mobs.
D2 feels clunky at this time and age. Move on. D4 is fine for having some no brain fun. Best arpg probably PoE.
i mean thats with any old game, doesnt mean we cant appreciate them for what they are.
I feel like the clunkiness is made up for in better everything else. These days it seems like so much importance is put into graphics that everything else is secondary.
mmmmmmm its the better game--- how do you know it--¿¿? they are giving D4 free access-- nobody wants to playit even for free.
Still no set items. 🤦🏼♂️ woke ruined everything
ehh set items kinda ruined diablo 3 so i get why they didnt add them. however, if they just had them as niche leveling or farming items like most of the d2 ones, id be okay with that. Problem is when set items are more powerful than uniques.
@ I wouldn’t have played D3 if it didn’t have set items and hardly anyone else would’ve either. You’re alone in thinking this.
@@Sakufighter thats definitely not true, a lot of people said they dont like set items in d3 lol
Both D3 and Diablo 4 are shitty, expensive, boring games! D1 and D2 - D2R are the best! Also i like throw barb a lot too! I'm looking forward to PoE 2 and then Titan Quest 2 and No rest for the wicked.