One clarification: The price for the Camera Module 3 is still $25-not $35 as stated in the video-at least for the standard versions. The wide-angle versions of both the normal and NoIR camera modules are $35.
just got an email about this camera!, very cool. thanks for the video. Its a bit more expensive here in sweden, equal to 46 USD. (33 for the V2). Have a V3 on order :) ships 18th january. edit: actually found it for 33 USD here in Sweden now.. ah well :D
You gave me a spook, it's 34 USD in my country and I was dumbfounded. Of course it's $25 and with import tariff it ends up being $34. Thanks for the first impressions, hope you're doing well Jeff.
I'd be interested in seeing this case being expanded to the idea of holding an internal battery. I have a couple of unused Raspberry Pis and as a amateur hobbyist photograph, this looks like a fun and cool idea.
Great to see you back up and about again, hope the recovery is going well. For the price that's pretty good performance in my book. It would be nice if they also offered a more expensive version with better lenses for people who want / need it but it seems that's pretty much covered by other offerings anyway.
Great video Jeff! It really shows how much camera tech has improved, 25$ can get you quite far At the same time it shows how much is happening in software nowadays where it's never just one picture taken but several stitched together for sharpness better lighting and exposure, aided by a bunch of machine learning in the image processing stage I really hope we can get an open source camera software at some point that's at least close to the quality of modern cameras because the idea of a DIY camera you can actually modify yourself is awesome.
I was playing around with CHDK running on an old point and shoot camera at one point. This allows saving raw images and manual control + scripting in models that normally don't allow this. Even on this older style camera, the raw image was a grainy, distorted mess compared to the jpg image processed by the camera.
Hey Jeff. Thanks for all of your videos. I love the content and as a fellow STL guy, I love all of the STL love. As a matter of fact, I used to be responsible for the inspection/maintenance for that railroad bridge, back when I worked for that railroad. Keep it up!
You did not suffer enough in hospital -> let's throw pi camera module in your general direction :) Great video. I wonder how much better the lens/sensor in the phone really is and how much is software "magic".
Haha exactly. I was 50/50 on making a video on this since I'm at the tail end of the most annoying part of recovery... but I got a ton of energy in the past week so decided to knock it out and see how it goes! Going to get some sleep now, though. They launch these things at 2 a.m. my time lol
Hey Jeff, could you please make a video to test it the various pi camera modules can be used to build a digital microscope for electronic repairs? Thanks. Phishing lines optional. 😉
Use a piSugar for power. It works really well on a Superman Lego radio I made. Add a shutdown button to power down and power up (Howchoo has a good script for that). And can you add a cheap flash? Also, does it take the pictures in RAW or JPG? It would be good to just have it take RAW images that can be processed in post.
So glad you are up and running. Love your humor and your joy of life. And every time you show one of your projects it makes me feel I cooperated with them (even when I never ever would build one) Thank you!
there are a few special drivers for that screen that gives it better framerate, people have developed it for portable arcade builds where frame-rate is needed for games, might help your viewfinder experiance
I've built a few Pi-based cameras that stream over LAN and are powered by PoE, so it's not wireless, but it's a single cable installation which suits me fine, and the screen I used was connected via the DSI port which made the preview video butter smooth. I also used the HQ camera because I wanted interchangeable lenses, but overall it was a very satisfying build.
@dtebarrett I did something like this but used the arducam module as it was the only autofocus maodule at the time (last year). But tl;dr mjpeg-streamer was the route I took. But considering the picamera2 python library now used by the pi means you can build a very simple python webserver to stream images. If you use mjpeg-streamer route you still need something like stunnel4 to ensure encrypted streams over ssl, but the python server route should have options to use ssl direct.
Honest question. Why do people do this instead of just getting something like a Wyze camera and flashing open source firmware on it? The quality is 100x better and it's cheaper. I'm a nerd that loves this stuff to, but some things are just way more work then they are worth....unless I'm missing something?
@@dtebarrett Im using the UV4L streaming server. Initially I used VLC bit found that the latency was unacceptable. But UV4L is quite good. Not perfect, but it allows a HTML configuration page and latency is minimal so its useful.
@@isaackvasager9957 I cannot say why other people do this, but I would wager it's probably for the same reasons I like doing it, and it's for the joy of making it yourself and solving the technical problems that come with it. By buying a ready-made camera most of those problems are solved for you and all the fun of working it out yourself is gone. I agree, a camera from a reputable manufacturer will be 10 times better and likely more reliable, but there will be no love in it. My Pi camera looks like a Soviet cold war monstrosity, but I love it because I made it.
Not too bad for a DIY-like camera. The wide angle depends on the lens and if I know it correctly, the picture post-processing is built-in in the iPhone's software, so probably it could be improved more with better code (open-source of course :) ).
Jeff, you seem to be doing so well. Appear strong and energetic. What a nice surprise and answer to many prayers. Keep up the great work. Love the videos.
It's not clear if you're using raw iphone images for comparison. This makes a difference as the iPhone has a lot of post-processing after it takes a photo, so it might not be considered a fair comparison.
Great video, I love the Pikon camera housing! Have a look at the HyperPixel 4.0 as a display alternative, it’s a 4” IPS display with capacitive touch - I bought one a while back for a project that I never got around to finishing.
I'll second the HyperPixel 4.0. It's a nice looking screen that uses the Pi's header pins instead of SPI. For what it's worth, my project runs an MQTT broker but is also unfinished!
I don't think it'd work too well in regards of collecting heat via radiation and convection if you leave it inside your vehicle in the sun or a hot day in the shade. It would probably thermal throttle or outright die unless you blast it with cold air from the front windscreen defroster. Otherwise it'd be a somewhat decent DIY to test granted you'd have to figure a power solution that either taps into the hot line on your battery or have a internal "ups" backup for limited runtime when the ignition is off.
i hope they keep developing the interface and making it easier for translator interfaces to be imposed between the camera and the connection so we can get modules that let the pi talk to professional, full frame sensors so parts of old DSLRs with dead controller boards can get a new lease on life
The issue is phone cameras do their magic with AI and various image enhancement algorithms, that manufacturers have improved with a decade of experience. The way I see it, this is a great value camera module, all things considered. You could probably build a webcam that's way better than any cheap 1080p webcam with it. I think people working on Linux for smartphones and specifically those working on the camera apps could take advantage of this module and start developing better algorithms for stabilization, instantaneous photo processing, etc.
I think its just not the software or module that makes the difference, Chips are also custom designed to process raw images and videoes.Together it creates much superior results.
"Like our SPONSOR!". For a minute there, I thought I'd entered the Twilight Zone and this was LTT. Seriously though, great video and very timely - got a notification this morning about the release of the Camera Module 3 and was on the fence about buying. I think I'll wait for now. It's also really great to see you back and looking so well, Jeff.
This would be amazing for long time lapse photography, for example a plant growing. Professionals in this field connect the grow lights with the camera, having them on during day cycle, then toggled on/off for photos at night. Pi would be great for this!
Suggestion for the tripod socket: instead of making a 1/4-20 thread receptacle (which is Whitworth, by the way, not standard UNC form), use a inexpensive off-the-shelf metal adapter to a larger size that will work better in the 3D plastic. Such as a 3/8 to 1/4 tripod adapter, or 1/2 to 1/4, etc. Or even a flat metal plate adapter screwed onto the base of the plastic body.
This may get me to try and get streaming rtsp from a pi to try and record to Blue Iris again. I tried it in the past with an original noir module and wasn't impressed versus a cheap $30 1080 camera with poe.
I'd like to see some experiments with this: 1) Comparisons of this with the HQ camera. 2) Modding the lens to be higher quality. 3) Running Android on the Pi and using the Google Pixel camera app. That may possibly result in better software processing that would compare with the iPhone more.
I agree with everyone else... It's great to see you back! I may have to see if I can find one at Microcenter just to take a stab at designing a case. Looks like a great project!
Great vid Jeff. You have given me a steer for a project that I have in building a cctv system. Unfortunately still waiting for rpi's to be available in the uk :(
This new camera should be perfect for my OctoPrint setup. The old Pi camera couldn't seem to quite focus close enough, so everything was always slightly out of focus, and turning the dial manually to get the best focus is frustratingly difficult. I repeatedly tried to get better focus, but the best I could manage was a slightly out of focus picture, which was still good enough to usually figure out when my print has failed, a few layers after it's happened, not the moment it happens (which I could easily tell in person) The Pi camera was dirt cheap, so I can't really complain about the performance, but I would've paid a little more for something like this. The HQ camera however was just too much trouble, and more than I needed.
There's a few LCD screens for the pi that use DSI which gives better performance than the ones that plug into the GPIO headers which typically use SPI if memory serves. You can also squeeze a little bit more performance out of SPI of you do frame buffer copying. Idk if the old frame buffer tricks still work or not though.
They do, on better drivers, but the one Waveshare ships didn't have the right tweaks. It might be possible to fix it though, I just haven't had the time to dig deeper.
@@JeffGeerling If memory serves I had to trick the pi into thinking that HDMI was connected and then copy that frame over to SPI. Found someone doing it github. Idk if that helps. Good luck. Cool stuff.
@@cprogrck Yeah I saw a few instances of that but couldn't get any other drivers for the same screen to compile on the custom image I was testing with. Hopefully we can get that solved!
I was quite disappointed with the Pi HQ camera for webcam use. Like movements are not smooth at all, it demands a lot of light despite its big sensor size. Anyone having similar experiences? I assumed its due to a rather basic video(image) post-processing? E.G by using Zoom with all its filters, its performing decent. Currently not up-to-date, has there been any major developments in the Pi community in the past 1.5 years? (I ended up using showmewebcam out of convenience, despite the security concerns)
Well it's not everyday that I see a UA-camr with such a quality video just a few miles from where I live... LOL. Appreciate the content, looking into this for a project!
I'd love to learn more about the projects you do for your daughter, that's really adorable. It could be just a community post if you don't think it is worth a whole video
Hey Jeff, thanks for making the video. This new camera is quite amazing, especially for that price. I was wondering if one could use it to build a diy dashcam. Also most actual dashcams dont seem that great. Maybe you would like to do a video on that?
Man this makes me think of the dashcam video Linus Tech Tips did. they found many dashcams have the same or similar sensors. I'd love to see a collab between you two to build a better open source dashcam.
I would like to see someone build an open source dashcam with multiple cameras with different focal lengths. One camera for license plates and another for general video. etc.
you used to ssh in some Yi cameras back in the day and gopro has custom firmware that lets you do a lot of weird stuff. I used to be a developer for CHDK & Magic Lantern, we have created wonders, 10 YEARS ago.
I will use the Arducam HD version or something like that. Don't know the name at the moment but it is basically exactly the same as the Pi HQ Cam with the sole difference being that it has 4 lanes of CSI-2 instead of 2 lanes. Meaning I can record 4k video. Problem the RPi4 doesn't have a 4 Lan csi-2 interface, so I will have to use the CM4 which does. Also the RPi can't encode 4k H265 so I want to connect an FPGA via PCIe which encodes it in H.265 or maybe AV1.
I so far haven't found any way of encoding H.265 (or especially AV1) in a reasonable/performant way on the Pi. So far the GPU features for that are also locked behind drivers that don't like the Pi CM4's funky PCIe bus... but maybe we'll get that working someday!
The GPU for the BCM2711, as per the RPi datasheet, seems to only be able to do H.265(4k60 decode) and H.264(1080p60 decode, 1080p30 encode) so the most optimal path would be using what the hardware supports OOB, otherwise a dedicated accelerator will have to be used to encode/decode same or better codecs. Though do be wary of doing hardware accelerated encoding as it may increase the size of the resulting file by a ludicrous amount that would quickly fill up whatever storage medium you intend to use. So if you manage to develop or find such a solution, please do share it :D
too bad its not that easy hooking up camera modules from old smartphones to the pi and making driver for it. high end camera modules from 1..2 year old smartphones are pretty cheap on the used replacement part marked, 10...20 bucks for even the really good ones. i allways wondered back then why no one ever used the nokia 808 40mp camera sensor, it was way ahead of everything else when it came out and long after it was discontinued. i mean its csi and i2c for setup, figure out pinout, sniff setup datastream. unless they decrypt their communications between soc and camera module i wonder why theres no projects around. in my head, i think it cant be too hard. but knowing from failed projects, you can spent months with it and may not get anything out of it.
The pleasures of DIY projects, the freedom for do whatever you want with the project, replace parts or even change the software; but on the other side.... sometimes is a pain in the.......
Thanks! If you make another video, a comparison I'd really be interested in isn't this camera vs. smartphones or other camera options, but rather this camera vs the pi camera v2 -- for those of us with v2's that wonder about upgrading, etc.
One clarification: The price for the Camera Module 3 is still $25-not $35 as stated in the video-at least for the standard versions. The wide-angle versions of both the normal and NoIR camera modules are $35.
good to see you're up and about. :-) :-) continue to get well and sending you lots of positive thoughts. :D
just got an email about this camera!, very cool. thanks for the video. Its a bit more expensive here in sweden, equal to 46 USD. (33 for the V2). Have a V3 on order :) ships 18th january. edit: actually found it for 33 USD here in Sweden now.. ah well :D
Your video about blowing red shirt Jeff, last year???
Um is that what you really meant?
You gave me a spook, it's 34 USD in my country and I was dumbfounded. Of course it's $25 and with import tariff it ends up being $34. Thanks for the first impressions, hope you're doing well Jeff.
9:15 you Now ! Jeff have found a market gap its small but can be good.
The camera module is decent. A bit of post-processing in the form of tonemapping should bring a massive improvement. Definitely usable.
Wonder if any of the Buster vs Bullseye stuff will prevent Raw output, DNG's from the new module would make post work easier.
@Karl with a K Sure, but can you run Raspbian on it?
I hope you’re feeling well Jeff and continue to be on the mend. Your dedication to pushing out content is pretty amazing.
me too, it may pre-recorded, before hand ? just set publish on a set day?
I'd be interested in seeing this case being expanded to the idea of holding an internal battery.
I have a couple of unused Raspberry Pis and as a amateur hobbyist photograph, this looks like a fun and cool idea.
it would be great if u could ship one😅
@@tarun4.6 was just about to comment the same
Glad to see you out of the hospital man. Don't push yourself and take it easy for a while.
I had no idea a new pi cam was being released. Thanks for the heads up and honest look!
Hope you are feeling better!
I love that LTT-style transition to the sponsor! Keep up the great work, Jeff!
Great video Jeff - loved the comparison with the iPhone lens!
Thanks, and I loved the PIKON case you made ;)
Glad to see your doing well Jeff.
Great to see you back up and about again, hope the recovery is going well. For the price that's pretty good performance in my book. It would be nice if they also offered a more expensive version with better lenses for people who want / need it but it seems that's pretty much covered by other offerings anyway.
Great video Jeff!
It really shows how much camera tech has improved, 25$ can get you quite far
At the same time it shows how much is happening in software nowadays where it's never just one picture taken but several stitched together for sharpness better lighting and exposure, aided by a bunch of machine learning in the image processing stage
I really hope we can get an open source camera software at some point that's at least close to the quality of modern cameras because the idea of a DIY camera you can actually modify yourself is awesome.
I was playing around with CHDK running on an old point and shoot camera at one point. This allows saving raw images and manual control + scripting in models that normally don't allow this. Even on this older style camera, the raw image was a grainy, distorted mess compared to the jpg image processed by the camera.
Blowing Red Shirt Jeff? 🤨🤨🤨
Hey, what happens in St. Louis, stays in St. Louis. 🤣🤣🤣
Hey Jeff. Thanks for all of your videos. I love the content and as a fellow STL guy, I love all of the STL love. As a matter of fact, I used to be responsible for the inspection/maintenance for that railroad bridge, back when I worked for that railroad. Keep it up!
You did not suffer enough in hospital -> let's throw pi camera module in your general direction :)
Great video. I wonder how much better the lens/sensor in the phone really is and how much is software "magic".
Haha exactly. I was 50/50 on making a video on this since I'm at the tail end of the most annoying part of recovery... but I got a ton of energy in the past week so decided to knock it out and see how it goes!
Going to get some sleep now, though. They launch these things at 2 a.m. my time lol
Next step : open source firearm DNA encoded with a raspberry Pi
That's crazy good AF (Auto Focus) for the price!
That sponsorship segway at the end really got me and was so entertaining!
Hey Jeff, could you please make a video to test it the various pi camera modules can be used to build a digital microscope for electronic repairs? Thanks.
Phishing lines optional. 😉
That's one project I've considered building, this module focuses close enough it might be the best option!
Use a piSugar for power. It works really well on a Superman Lego radio I made. Add a shutdown button to power down and power up (Howchoo has a good script for that). And can you add a cheap flash? Also, does it take the pictures in RAW or JPG? It would be good to just have it take RAW images that can be processed in post.
"Just like this video's sponsor!" -- now THAT is a great segue
Happy to see you doing well! My motionEye setup was eagerly waiting for something like this to be out!
So glad you are up and running. Love your humor and your joy of life. And every time you show one of your projects it makes me feel I cooperated with them (even when I never ever would build one) Thank you!
there are a few special drivers for that screen that gives it better framerate, people have developed it for portable arcade builds where frame-rate is needed for games, might help your viewfinder experiance
I'd like to see it compare to the previous camera modules. Comparing it to any phone camera is not fair because all the post processing they do.
A comparison raspberry camera with the two cameras from arducam would be very interesting.
Hats off to you man for being consistent after being in such dark place ...
Respect from India 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I've built a few Pi-based cameras that stream over LAN and are powered by PoE, so it's not wireless, but it's a single cable installation which suits me fine, and the screen I used was connected via the DSI port which made the preview video butter smooth. I also used the HQ camera because I wanted interchangeable lenses, but overall it was a very satisfying build.
How did you set it up to stream over LAN?
@dtebarrett I did something like this but used the arducam module as it was the only autofocus maodule at the time (last year).
But tl;dr mjpeg-streamer was the route I took. But considering the picamera2 python library now used by the pi means you can build a very simple python webserver to stream images.
If you use mjpeg-streamer route you still need something like stunnel4 to ensure encrypted streams over ssl, but the python server route should have options to use ssl direct.
Honest question. Why do people do this instead of just getting something like a Wyze camera and flashing open source firmware on it? The quality is 100x better and it's cheaper. I'm a nerd that loves this stuff to, but some things are just way more work then they are worth....unless I'm missing something?
@@dtebarrett Im using the UV4L streaming server. Initially I used VLC bit found that the latency was unacceptable. But UV4L is quite good. Not perfect, but it allows a HTML configuration page and latency is minimal so its useful.
@@isaackvasager9957 I cannot say why other people do this, but I would wager it's probably for the same reasons I like doing it, and it's for the joy of making it yourself and solving the technical problems that come with it. By buying a ready-made camera most of those problems are solved for you and all the fun of working it out yourself is gone. I agree, a camera from a reputable manufacturer will be 10 times better and likely more reliable, but there will be no love in it. My Pi camera looks like a Soviet cold war monstrosity, but I love it because I made it.
Not too bad for a DIY-like camera. The wide angle depends on the lens and if I know it correctly, the picture post-processing is built-in in the iPhone's software, so probably it could be improved more with better code (open-source of course :) ).
I tried to find the website for Until Next Time I'm Jeff Geerling enterprises, sponsor of this video, but Google was unhelpful.
Jeff, you seem to be doing so well. Appear strong and energetic. What a nice surprise and answer to many prayers. Keep up the great work. Love the videos.
It's not clear if you're using raw iphone images for comparison. This makes a difference as the iPhone has a lot of post-processing after it takes a photo, so it might not be considered a fair comparison.
Ooh perfect for my robot. Been wanting to upgrade the camera that isn't as big as the HQ camera
Yeah, these are great for being super tiny and lightweight for robotics!
i came here for robot comments, was nor disappointed
Great video, I love the Pikon camera housing! Have a look at the HyperPixel 4.0 as a display alternative, it’s a 4” IPS display with capacitive touch - I bought one a while back for a project that I never got around to finishing.
Hey, you're that guy!
heh, "bought one for a project I never got around to finishing" is the story of our lives!
I'll second the HyperPixel 4.0. It's a nice looking screen that uses the Pi's header pins instead of SPI.
For what it's worth, my project runs an MQTT broker but is also unfinished!
Hello! Fancy seeing you here!
Pidashcam? Would be interested to see how it does in low light conditions
I don't think it'd work too well in regards of collecting heat via radiation and convection if you leave it inside your vehicle in the sun or a hot day in the shade. It would probably thermal throttle or outright die unless you blast it with cold air from the front windscreen defroster. Otherwise it'd be a somewhat decent DIY to test granted you'd have to figure a power solution that either taps into the hot line on your battery or have a internal "ups" backup for limited runtime when the ignition is off.
i hope they keep developing the interface and making it easier for translator interfaces to be imposed between the camera and the connection so we can get modules that let the pi talk to professional, full frame sensors so parts of old DSLRs with dead controller boards can get a new lease on life
The issue is phone cameras do their magic with AI and various image enhancement algorithms, that manufacturers have improved with a decade of experience.
The way I see it, this is a great value camera module, all things considered.
You could probably build a webcam that's way better than any cheap 1080p webcam with it.
I think people working on Linux for smartphones and specifically those working on the camera apps could take advantage of this module and start developing better algorithms for stabilization, instantaneous photo processing, etc.
The sensor has much potential, it needs better image processing.
Great video!
I think its just not the software or module that makes the difference, Chips are also custom designed to process raw images and videoes.Together it creates much superior results.
Wrong Red Shirt Jeff....
Sorry, not exactly what I mean...
Wrong-Red-Shirt Jeff is fabulous !
This is fantastic, especially comparing to such a flagship high end product like the Iphone pro. Alright pi people, pi dashcam when?
What if you give the camera module a Hubble treatment with a corrective lens? At least on top of software upgrades.
"Like our SPONSOR!". For a minute there, I thought I'd entered the Twilight Zone and this was LTT.
Seriously though, great video and very timely - got a notification this morning about the release of the Camera Module 3 and was on the fence about buying. I think I'll wait for now. It's also really great to see you back and looking so well, Jeff.
This would be amazing for long time lapse photography, for example a plant growing. Professionals in this field connect the grow lights with the camera, having them on during day cycle, then toggled on/off for photos at night. Pi would be great for this!
Suggestion for the tripod socket: instead of making a 1/4-20 thread receptacle (which is Whitworth, by the way, not standard UNC form), use a inexpensive off-the-shelf metal adapter to a larger size that will work better in the 3D plastic. Such as a 3/8 to 1/4 tripod adapter, or 1/2 to 1/4, etc. Or even a flat metal plate adapter screwed onto the base of the plastic body.
Video idea (because it's something I want to do): Solar powered security camera. Thanks for the video!
This may get me to try and get streaming rtsp from a pi to try and record to Blue Iris again. I tried it in the past with an original noir module and wasn't impressed versus a cheap $30 1080 camera with poe.
yeah, that's one use case I'm going to test with the NoIR camera. Though I'm going to try Frigate this time around.
I'd like to see some experiments with this:
1) Comparisons of this with the HQ camera.
2) Modding the lens to be higher quality.
3) Running Android on the Pi and using the Google Pixel camera app. That may possibly result in better software processing that would compare with the iPhone more.
I agree with everyone else... It's great to see you back!
I may have to see if I can find one at Microcenter just to take a stab at designing a case. Looks like a great project!
Great vid Jeff. You have given me a steer for a project that I have in building a cctv system. Unfortunately still waiting for rpi's to be available in the uk :(
Not long now by the end of this year we should be back to the normal supply levels - cant wait.
Hey buddy stay strong. Great vid. Rooting for ya
Thank you! Feeling a lot better this week!
Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed this video - really useful too !
@Jeff Geerling ‐ lol "...just like this videos sponsor" had a bit of a LTT flair to it. Good job Jeff!
HEY! Ive been where you were outside before. I'm a fellow Missourian!
Filming stuttering traffic on video. Then wishing the drivers get improved. I see what you did there! ;)
Did you try to install android and test gcam( if api2camera is supported) ?
With this little module software make a lot of difference
Super great video as always! But respectfully, what good is it do me if I can’t buy the raspberry pi to attach it to?
We are on to you Red Shirt!!!
You shouldn't show Apple products and software on video, it's really unprofessional.
This new camera should be perfect for my OctoPrint setup. The old Pi camera couldn't seem to quite focus close enough, so everything was always slightly out of focus, and turning the dial manually to get the best focus is frustratingly difficult. I repeatedly tried to get better focus, but the best I could manage was a slightly out of focus picture, which was still good enough to usually figure out when my print has failed, a few layers after it's happened, not the moment it happens (which I could easily tell in person)
The Pi camera was dirt cheap, so I can't really complain about the performance, but I would've paid a little more for something like this. The HQ camera however was just too much trouble, and more than I needed.
Good to see you back on your feet 😊
I already spent my January budget on the self-hosted project but I hope I can get a new cam module in February.
That Linus-style ending was hilarious. The Pi camera seems really good for the price ❤️
Please do make more videos on this in the future Jeff.
Finally! I can protect my house from being blown....down without Ring's data collection! Thanks Red Shirt Soccer Jeff! Always wear protection.
Next port of call: Google's Coral USB added for real time AI detection.
Hey, there's Kenrick! I got a laugh out of "...sucker for torture, just like this video's sponsor!" Am I watching Linus? Ha ha.
Ha, you know that tower well!
I am glad your getting better and already making final jokes :P!
Heh, I never stopped making the jokes! But I am feeling much better this week. Still not 100% but better than I've been in months!
There's a few LCD screens for the pi that use DSI which gives better performance than the ones that plug into the GPIO headers which typically use SPI if memory serves. You can also squeeze a little bit more performance out of SPI of you do frame buffer copying. Idk if the old frame buffer tricks still work or not though.
They do, on better drivers, but the one Waveshare ships didn't have the right tweaks. It might be possible to fix it though, I just haven't had the time to dig deeper.
@@JeffGeerling If memory serves I had to trick the pi into thinking that HDMI was connected and then copy that frame over to SPI. Found someone doing it github. Idk if that helps. Good luck. Cool stuff.
@@cprogrck Yeah I saw a few instances of that but couldn't get any other drivers for the same screen to compile on the custom image I was testing with. Hopefully we can get that solved!
Hope to see a video to use the new camera for 3d printing monitoring with continuous autofocus enabled
Great to see you back at it and with humor in full force, Jeff. :) You're a credit to the human race.
I would love to build a DIY photo or video camera, but I'm not sure this is quite it yet. I'll be watching closely for updates though!
Even at 35 would be great but at 25 it's amazing, might pick one for my openflexure microscope to check the differences
35 for the wide angle version
I wonder if anyone will be using this to make their own smart doorbell. It seems like it would be a good idea
That joke landed. Jeff does a lot of screwing and blowing.
As a CCTV or vision system for robotics, it seems like a good deal.
I was quite disappointed with the Pi HQ camera for webcam use. Like movements are not smooth at all, it demands a lot of light despite its big sensor size.
Anyone having similar experiences?
I assumed its due to a rather basic video(image) post-processing? E.G by using Zoom with all its filters, its performing decent.
Currently not up-to-date, has there been any major developments in the Pi community in the past 1.5 years?
(I ended up using showmewebcam out of convenience, despite the security concerns)
Well it's not everyday that I see a UA-camr with such a quality video just a few miles from where I live... LOL. Appreciate the content, looking into this for a project!
I'd love to learn more about the projects you do for your daughter, that's really adorable. It could be just a community post if you don't think it is worth a whole video
Makes me kinda wonder whether a raspberry pi dashcam would have better image quality than the commercial stuff.
Can't help but notice the STL City Jersey! ON STL
It's released 7hrs ago and it's already sold out (in Taiwan) ducking hell man I love RPi but their supply chain is just unbelievable.
Yikes! Hopefully it's just a temporary thing; there's still stick elsewhere
hy i am from india here its too difficult to get a ras could anyone recommend a website
I wear shorts during winter too, but I'm in Arizona.
Haha I wish we could have your climate at this time of year. But I do like a good snow now and then.
"I Understood That Reference" America, Cap
0:30 analog: left: human eyes, right: squid eyes.
Yes, squids have better eyes than us, as their circuitry is behind the sensory cells.
Hey Jeff, thanks for making the video. This new camera is quite amazing, especially for that price. I was wondering if one could use it to build a diy dashcam. Also most actual dashcams dont seem that great. Maybe you would like to do a video on that?
Man this makes me think of the dashcam video Linus Tech Tips did. they found many dashcams have the same or similar sensors. I'd love to see a collab between you two to build a better open source dashcam.
Great video! What is the software you are using to compare two photos, so that you can zoom and move around on both equally?
That's Lightroom. I used to use Aperture, but Apple discontinued it a while back :(
Ok, great vid, but, please, can you do it with HDR enabled and the new drivers ? Very cool video nonetheless !
I would be cool to make wearable night vision goggle with the Pi and the camera
Glad to see you are doing well Jeff, love you videos.
I would like to see someone build an open source dashcam with multiple cameras with different focal lengths. One camera for license plates and another for general video. etc.
you used to ssh in some Yi cameras back in the day and gopro has custom firmware that lets you do a lot of weird stuff. I used to be a developer for CHDK & Magic Lantern, we have created wonders, 10 YEARS ago.
It's a small world when you realize Jeff is doing his camera test right down the road from you :)
I will use the Arducam HD version or something like that. Don't know the name at the moment but it is basically exactly the same as the Pi HQ Cam with the sole difference being that it has 4 lanes of CSI-2 instead of 2 lanes. Meaning I can record 4k video.
Problem the RPi4 doesn't have a 4 Lan csi-2 interface, so I will have to use the CM4 which does.
Also the RPi can't encode 4k H265 so I want to connect an FPGA via PCIe which encodes it in H.265 or maybe AV1.
I so far haven't found any way of encoding H.265 (or especially AV1) in a reasonable/performant way on the Pi. So far the GPU features for that are also locked behind drivers that don't like the Pi CM4's funky PCIe bus... but maybe we'll get that working someday!
The GPU for the BCM2711, as per the RPi datasheet, seems to only be able to do H.265(4k60 decode) and H.264(1080p60 decode, 1080p30 encode) so the most optimal path would be using what the hardware supports OOB, otherwise a dedicated accelerator will have to be used to encode/decode same or better codecs. Though do be wary of doing hardware accelerated encoding as it may increase the size of the resulting file by a ludicrous amount that would quickly fill up whatever storage medium you intend to use.
So if you manage to develop or find such a solution, please do share it :D
Is Dav1D encoding faster?
too bad its not that easy hooking up camera modules from old smartphones to the pi and making driver for it.
high end camera modules from 1..2 year old smartphones are pretty cheap on the used replacement part marked, 10...20 bucks for even the really good ones.
i allways wondered back then why no one ever used the nokia 808 40mp camera sensor, it was way ahead of everything else when it came out and long after it was discontinued.
i mean its csi and i2c for setup, figure out pinout, sniff setup datastream. unless they decrypt their communications between soc and camera module i wonder why theres no projects around. in my head, i think it cant be too hard. but knowing from failed projects, you can spent months with it and may not get anything out of it.
The pleasures of DIY projects, the freedom for do whatever you want with the project, replace parts or even change the software; but on the other side.... sometimes is a pain in the.......
That's open source for ya!
@@JeffGeerling And that's the magic!
For a minute I thought you'd secured St. Louis City SC sponsorship! :D
Still giving free marketing to Nestlé though. Not sure why - maybe it fits the "I'm pro open-source, but use a MacBook and an iPhone" theme.
Thanks! If you make another video, a comparison I'd really be interested in isn't this camera vs. smartphones or other camera options, but rather this camera vs the pi camera v2 -- for those of us with v2's that wonder about upgrading, etc.
What app were you using on your Mac when comparing the photos side by side?
Was that just apple photos?
(For example at 6:24)
I'm so glad you let red shirt Jeff host this video! Poor guy was just getting hated on lately
Camera men always finishing their work. They focus a lot