Sam Seder STUNS PBD Panel and TORCHES Jordan Peterson as a Total FRAUD
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- In this explosive episode of the PBD Podcast, Sam Seder rips into Jordan Peterson, boldly exposing him as a fraud in a fiery commentary. Seder doesn’t hold back as he meticulously breaks down why he believes Peterson’s views are not only misleading but also harmful. With sharp critiques and pointed remarks, Sam Seder confronts Peterson’s ideology, calling out what he sees as inconsistencies and flawed logic. Though not face-to-face, Seder’s harsh words leave a lasting impact as he delivers his strong opinions on Jordan Peterson’s work.
Throughout the discussion, Sam Seder continues to denounce Peterson’s ideas, providing detailed examples of why he considers Peterson’s influence to be fraudulent. Viewers will be captivated by Seder’s audacity and sharp wit as he takes aim at one of the most prominent voices in modern thought. This video is a must-watch for anyone interested in the ongoing debates surrounding Jordan Peterson, as Sam Seder delivers a scathing critique that you won’t want to miss.
This show will never have him again He makes them look so bad.
Just because you're rich doesn't make you smart. And those guys are perfect examples of that
If Patrick Bet David doesn't like being schooled, he shouldn't make it so easy for people to do.
@@mba321 he doesn’t anymore. Ha
He seems mid smart at best. This was a layup for Seder.
King Sam in the lions den
PBD is a total clown.
Wonder what antibiotics cures PBD 😂
PBD is a grifter and an opportunistic clown
Who dat?
Nothing about the guy is serious but his whole thing is "I'm serious"
@@Just_brows1ng Wasn't it proven that all his success was from a pyramid scheme.
Jordan peterson has given in to his narcissistic tendencies & has become a full blown weirdo.
I think this is an important point to bring up. Jordan Peterson V1 was very different from V2 or V3. JP V1 was about young men taking responsibility for themselves, making productive lives, respecting others, being honest etc. JP V2 got into culture war stuff and over rotated on the trans topic, V3 is now about politics and his own ego.
@@Truthsayerbcn v1 was always containing v2 and v3 it just didn't have a stage to shine on. His earliest mentions of his religion and his views on hierarchy point out where he was headed pretty clearly.
@@Truthsayerbcnright… the Xanax addict who lied to millions…. Claimed a “cup of apple cider” caused a sleep disorder instead of his benzo addiction…. Then blamed his doctors for “over prescribing” him because he refuses to take responsibility for what he puts in his body….. was teaching young men about responsibility.
Sounds like the blind leading the blind to me. No wonder this country is so lost. With role models like Peterson, who needs enemies?
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@@Truthsayerbcn Nah. Peterson was just trying to appeal to a broader audience and didn't want to sell books as a conservative author. Once the right-wing gravy-train started he didn't have to hide his views anymore.
Sam is talking over all their heads. Sam is a deep, deep thinker, and all I've ever seen from PBD is cursory, surface commentary, no matter the social or political topic and elementary questions.
Sam Seder is smart AF.. I disagree with him on some things, but he is like a historical encyclopedia. He can casually talk about a great deal of political subjects and add alot of historical context without looking anything up... Events, dates, people in history who might be relevant to any given topic at hand
alot of right wing content creators are scared to death of him, because they know he will embarrass them pretty easily
This is why I think Sam did much better than David Pakman going up against these guys because Sam just remembered statistics whereas David said several times, “I don’t have it in front of me.”
@@xenakisminor I'm not saying who was better, but David is amazing too, and did more than hold his own. I will never take anything from Sam though.
@@erinmobley168 David did fine but was on the defensive the entire time when Sam was on the offensive and not afraid of ruffling some feathers. I also love David!
@xenakisminor nah. David is a better communicator than Sam. He just comes off as more likeable and is better at messaging. Sam can come off as smug sometime. Especially his team.
@@100AcreWoodz1 I don’t disagree with that but that’s another reason why he did better. David was polite and they kept cutting him off whereas Sam at times forcefully made his points. I’m not arguing Sam is better than David. I’m saying Sam did better going up against the PBD guys. I’m also not saying David did bad by any means.
I'm 25 and listen to Sam, Pakman, Hasan - seem to be doing much better than some of these other guys who only watch PBD, Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate and Ben Shapiro
Some people like honest intellectual discourse, others just need a guru to worship blindly and tell them what and how to think.
Hasan!!!!
Bro.... careful with Hamasabi my friend.
Dude is merely America bad and communism good LOL
Good stuff dude! Pass that on to your semi red pill homies
The 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Those guys are the worst.
Just drop Hasan, dudes a terrible person who supports rape and terrorism
Peterson is kind of a grifter, IMO. He's very talented at sounding smart and deep about spirituality, but it's incredibly thin and he doesn't fair well when questioned by someone like Sam Harris or Matt Dillahunty. I think he's a showman essentially. That explains the arena shows. On balance, he's not a force for good for anyone, IMO.
1000% a full on grifter
those two are more grifters than JP
I admire Sam for sitting in with these preposterous, puffed-up grindbros and calmly and affably swatting away their moronic arguments like it required no effort on his part, which of course it didn't. I wouldn't be able to do it.
“Grindbros” - I like that.
PBD is defending Jordan Peterson because he was told to by other right wingers. He is so predictable lol.
Bingo. Say something positive or keep quiet. JP is a pos.
I'm convinced PBD is either an AI or a literal 2D cardboard cutout of a human.
Stop whining!
I put JP in the same category as Deepak Chopra -- someone who has been massively, disgustingly successful at being utterly full of shit. It's all double talk from him, every word.
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Jordan peterson is full of word salad for incels
Exactly. He's liked for having a better vocabulary than his followers.
I mean Peterson's arguments are mostly word salad but he uses fancy words, so... WIN? 👍😳👍
@@TheRealLucifer_Morningstar He might have a better-than-average vocabulary, but he's an atrocious writer and an even more atrocious speaker.
@@andrewjenkinson8948That was kinda my point. 👍😳👍
I don't agree on everything Jordan Peterson says, but I disagree about the word salad part. If you watch enough of his videos, you'll see he uses harder words when the person is spoken to also uses them (perhaps he thinks the receiving person can understand those words). There are plenty of videos where he uses plain words to express his message.
@MacTaiwan Search "Jordan Peterson quote generator." There are several. And they each produce random phrases that sound exactly like JP.
I can say that Jordan Peterson psychological stuff helped me out. But that Jordan Peterson is long gone completely different person. Something happened to him in Russia
He seems really unwell
@@riudeguise4106 there is something off about him now. When he first came out his first videos on psychological issues were pretty good. But now he is just full of hate
Apple SEDER.
@@polyticks8453 yeah passovere!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@josephpa05 And amazing female hate. Notice there's no talk of him helping thousands of young women?... it's because he sees them as the enemy.
I've never heard JP say anything of value. He's not a total moron, he's well educated, well read, knowledgeable and articulate and I've seen many instances and clips of him saying ridiculous things. Perhaps theres a bias by algorythm of the instances fed to me but I literally have never heard anything of true meaning or value come from his mouth. Its usually word salad. I dont understand his popularity or who he is popular with.
He's popular amongst silly boys for the same reason Deepak Chopra was popular with unintelligent women. They sound smart, and they have solutions that won't really solve anything, but also won't really demand much change from them. It's kinda like homeopathy for the brain.
PBD is a snake and Jordan Peterson is off
Commander Peterson. He should be on the next season of the Handmaid's Tale.
PBD always defends the right wingers.
He's protecting his own 🤷🏾♂️
@@LacyOfTHEM His own interest$, you think he really cares about him personally.
He’s a grifter
Speaking as a Canadian I apologize for Jordan Peterson. Couldn't find a big enough audience for his BS here in Canada but in the USA no problem. You guys really need to do something about that. The world is watching, and we are not impressed.
Sam Seder all the way. Seders 100 boys would be much better citizens in my opinion!
Sam Harris puts Jordan in his place every time they meet.
That's interesting. Sam actually really likes Jordan. They are friends who explore ideas together. For some reason, folks like you think it's a sport.
@bbrucet3, and yet, Sam calls him out on absurd statements every time they publicly meet
Telling people what they want to hear for confirmation biases, doesn’t necessarily mean you’re helping them. Telling someone that their lies are true, Doesn’t help them. Making impression think that they their delusions matter more than reality, Would bring them more pain From the repercussions of reality.
Seems to me that the only “help” he offers is turning lonely young men into hate filled, misogynist incels.
Peterson delivers a very confused message because he is also confused, he ends statements with "where you like it or not", "whether you think it is true or not", so he can always speak nonsense. If you pay attention of the context of his message it is vague and flimsy. Jordan appeals to fear consciousness making people agree with him on the fear end but not on the context of his message, which he covers with confusing rhetoric. I tried to disseminate his message and found myself mentally exhausted to follow it because of all the unnecessary wording. Very little substance, lots of wording.
PBD makes analysis on follows, likes, views, how many people this, he is a reactionary talk show host. He lacks leadership, and Im not talking as a hater, I watch his show, his is entertaining, I like to listen to his narrative and think about how to counter their arguments: Vinny is the easiest, Tom is strategic but deceiving, Adam has a good head for analysis but has to kiss PBD's behind to keep his spot.
you showed your colors when crowd size matters
Everything's a popularity contest with these clowns. Biggest crowds, who's got the most money, who owns the most cars, etc.
Every piece of advice Peterson and other scammers barf out is advice you can get for free. For example, “clean your room or make your bed” doesn’t every parent say that? Or, “workout and eat healthy” don’t our doctors tell us that? I mean I just don’t get the hype. 🤷🏽♂️
I used to think PBD was smart and I thought his co hosts were unhinged except the guy on the left Now' l think they're all bizarre except the guy on the very left
Peterson had a benzodiazepine addiction, but rather than man-up and deal with it like anyone else, he had himself put into an induced coma in a Russia hospital. That was tremendously risky and would have put his family through incredible stress. He chose that option because he lacked the strength or commitment to go through conventional addiction therapy. Not the kind of man who should be lecturing anybody about mental health or personal responsibility.
Jordan Peterson will never have a positive impact. Anywhere, any time, on any group of people. The man is utterly insane. He may make a good SNL skit, but beyond that, nothing.
I think Jim Carrey might pull of a mean JBP impersonation on SNL.
@@mba321 That's actually a brilliant idea!
Hope SNL are watching this thread.
He's a walking Potemkin Village.
@@greggibson33 Probably the best description I've heard of that fake intellectual arsehole so far.
Jordan Peterson has literally been discredited by his almamater.
WWF filled stadiums too and raised a lot of young men into idiots.
Great comparison!
Name one.
@@davidblank420 An idiot or a stadium?
But dang, wrestling is kind of cool in an operatic, dramatic, sweaty sense.
@@davidblank420look in the mirror.
@@ChrisonCulture No it's not. As it is bias against wrestling fans. Most research shows they are pretty much a cross section of the US.
PBD can't change his mind about Jordan Peterson because he already commissioned a painting where they are kicking it with Tupak.
Peterson seems more then a grifter. He looks like he believes his rubbish and he's making big money from it
He's helped.a lot of young boys who been lost the last 10-20 years? LOL. You mean grownups? So they know how to make their bed now or like what did he do tell me
Peterson's followers are people impressed by eight letter words.
My diet is similar to his but I don't agree with him on much besides this
I think he is nuts alone with Megyn Kelly.
PBD what is your definition of young boys? And what messages is peterson giving them? He doesn't go into detail.
And hitler was able to fill out arenas.
Chef’s kiss!
Yeah, Hitler had a pretty big impact on young boys. Wonder how they turned out drew some pretty big crowds I understand also.
Finally! Calling Jordan for the academic fraud he is. Despicable human, thank you
15.000 people..I guess he must be the best psychologist in the world..bc this are mostly "entertainment " numbers...
So by his logic music festivals are the most wonderful places in the world
Maybe he's onto something...
Don't debate Sam Sedar unless you are A. prepared B. Open to changing your viewpoint C. Want to get your ass handed to you.
😂 Big coincidence, but I ate just meat this past weekend and I felt so, so bad. Still recovering.
Peterson is just capitalizing on the Tate bandwagon with pretence of saving and toughening up young men which is all performative and exploitive for money.
Jordan Peterson was a positive impact on my life when I found him. I felt and had an even better impact when I got away from him. He is delusional at his core.
I think you hit on something with the similarly popular Jim Jones and coolaid
Peterson would shred this guy in a debate though. Why not invite Peterson as a guest?
Pat doesn't get it it's not that Jordan offended Sam. It's that Sam doesn't think folks should follow JP because of how he views women in society, based on his whacked out theories & philosophies... not to mention his far out views in other areas.
I think this was an old episode, but I’m biased because I think PBD is a fraud MLM scammer from the outset, so I agree with Sam. It’s actually gotten to the point where if PBD likes someone that I like, then I have to research that person some more to see if I really like him/her, that’s how much of a fraud Patrick Bet David is.
How can he possibly be helping anyone , when he fills their heads with bull hockey.
2:32 Jordan has definitely gone off the deep end but let’s not attack people because of their auto immune issues.
I think it is always right to be skeptical of anyone who says that they have answers. I think it can be healthy to listen to personalities with platforms but beware that the answers that they have may not have even worked in their own lives. Remember that they are just playing a role and mainly for their own benefit. That being said Jordan P is a gross nutcase and nobody should listen to him, there are way better options out there.
Sam seder is,as always, reason,intelligence and honesty made flesh.
Peterson takes himself seriously in a way that is far more than anyone should derive from their own self perception.
J. P. has helped a lot of child-minded simpletons feel justified in their inadequacy, to then allow Andrew Tate to take their parent's money and make them fight each other in a "tournament" (hotel banquet hall), where the first-place prize is a "born to lose" t-shirt.
“There’s a sucker born every minute” - P.T. Barnum, possibly.
I'm really sorry if you think men and women are the same. Unfortunately this would be a long conversation, if those are your thoughts and this wouldn't be a good way to do that. Good luck.
@@BB-RH2ML. Sorry if you think men and women are the same.
@@adean7617do you know the difference in meaning between “the same” and “equal”? You seem to be confusing the two.
isn't this more than a year old?
Yeah idk why this channel keeps posting shit that happened a year ago then adding "his two cents" to it... I want to see current things happening.
He’s a fraud. That’s all that needs to be said.
Hitler filled stadiums too. Was that positive?
Peterson is like Scientology for Trumplicans.
PBD and all the other red pill clowns are hilarious....the notion that attending a couple of JP events can substitute in any way for fatherhood and the involved process of raising young men is laughable. Typical MAGA, red pill, tech bro baseless jibberish.
Peterson's university lectures are interesting and useful but his current ideology is unhinged.
Just to set the record straight, he and his daughter suffered from severe autoimmune disorders. They experimented by systematically eliminating things from their diet to see if it would improve their health.
They both found that by eliminating everything except meat and water from their diet they could be mentally and physically comfortable. His daughter actually has had joints replaced due to severe deterioration caused by her autoimmune disorder.
It is a miserable diet and they do not recommend it or earn money from promoting it.
can't stand Kermit the Frog Peterson but the all meat diet is not weird.
If you do it and you feel good with it, go ahead. But since there's no science to support the claims made about it, it is most definitely weird.
It's absolutely weird. Humans are omnivores, not carnivores.
It's extremely weird
I sent my highschool daughter a clip with JP, with the caption "this guy's really smart". She didn't know I meant the other guy in the clip. She took about a minute to go "uhm, he's using so many big words, but it doesn't make sense, am I missing something?" She looked sooo relieved when I said it was the other guy 😂 I almost went down a few notches in my daughter's mind.
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15,000 incels in an arena, your point is....?
Never could understand Peterson, couldn't watch his interviews because they always ended in tears.
Hahaha 😂 so true was looking to see if anyone would mention this 😂😂😂
Peterson a failed college philosopher figure out There’s a grift to push the right wing agendas ! ! To his credit, he is a knowledgeable, Carl Jung philosophy student
He was actually doing fine before he went full grifter. I think he was just coming to the end of his academic career and made a rather cynical move to make money on the anti-PC/woke train.
If you get kids that need help and you get some crazy guy who tells them to grow up and be strong I mean does that help some kids yes but petersen is more like a Tony Robbins at the end of the day the dude comes across like a snake oil salesmen
Jordan Peter Pan?
As far as the eating only meat aspect this may seem weird but healthcare hasn't caught up with current nutritional science, so please don't bash something you have absolutely no investment of knowledge in. I consider myself normal and follow the carnivore diet for health reasons and feel great in my 40's.
JP bothers me but I dont find the carnivore thing weird. It worked for him and his daughter and they were having serious health issues, especially his daughter from what I understand. Logically, humans evolved eating mostly meat up until just recently in evolution so it makes perfect sense to me that an all meat diet would not be harmfull. I myself am not carnivore but I probably should be eating way less carbs.
Jordan Peterson is the Deepak Chopra of Phil McGraws.
Jordan P in my opinion is a flawed individual in many of his beliefs and ways of thinking.
In other words, Andrew Dice Clay was the Jordan Peterson of his day.
Oddly enough, they do share their misogyny, although Clay’s was likely more of a schtick, where peterson’s is authentic.
PBD is a conman.
The Incel King 😂
PBD talks about fatherless societies and men feel left out . Well too many men are missing in action after becoming fathers. Too many women raising kids on their own
Jordan Peterson is the voice of Mickey Mouse he sounds just like him lol 😂
Mickelson Mouse with a harsh Canadian accent.
PBD is just another right wing grifter bro.
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Sam is the man! Minority Report check him out.
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No one knew who Jordan Peterson was 10/20 years ago. That second speaker is full of shit. JP didn’t get famous until he started crying wolf about that Canadian legislation that didn’t say what he said it said, and he’s been impressing the impressionable with his pseudo-intellectual word-salads ever since.
I used to think Jordan Peterson did more good than harm, even in his early days (2016-2018) some of it was cringe, but he was mostly just arguing as a devils advocate and from a libertarian standpoint of "the government shouldn't criminalize free speech, like not using people's preferred pronouns". he didn't seem like he actually hated trans people, or women, and he offered some decent advice for struggling young men to find their way. But by like 2019, he'd full embraced right wing ideology (or pandered to them for their money) and gone off the deep end. Now he is toxic AF and definitely doing more harm than good to society.
I’ll take Sam over Jordan, holy shit.
From a nutritional standpoint I don't think an all-meat diet is any weirder than a no-meat diet. As far as I know it's sustainable and even beneficial for some people. Unfortunately the so-called carnivore diet seems to attract a certain kind of person. When I tried it I worried that people would assume I was that kind of person.
Just eat what works for you, it’s no one else’s business. I made some changes a few years ago that made a huge sustainable difference in my health and fitness that have been heavily criticised now I just don’t ever talk about it.
The biggest issue is carnivore dieters tend to think it is the chosen diet of humans and everybody should all be doing it regardless of any other concerns.
In that regards it is not sustainable from a planetary perspective. I'm all for eating some meat but an all meat diet for all of humanity would be disastrous for the world in very short order.
Jordan Peterson = baffle em with BS!
SAM SAM SAM
Chris you're literally spot on. But you need to listen to some of what he discusses. JP doesn't sell pills btw.
Benzodiazepine
@@haroldjones8521 ... crickets...
Yo great video again man. I watch your stuff with my dad sometimes love it man. Always nice to see someone who talks some sense like you
Thanks for watching, and I hope your dad enjoys it, too.
@@ChrisonCulture he does man I showed him the Francesca video. Me and him are always talking trash about piers😂😂
Sam is correct , him and Emma Vigeland Sam co-host on his show ,are well worth watching
Hey say what you want about Jordan, but the all meat diet literally did save his daughter’s life. For some people with immune disorders it can be really helpful. It’s not for everybody though, nor for most. Attack his ideas not his eating habits lol
That's silly. What ideas? Peterson takes an hour to make a point. I don't know about Jordan's son, but Jordan and his daughter are medicated to an abnormal degree. Jordan Peterson's daughter is a grifter and a wackjob. Hey, you do you. You can be a fanboy if you want. Just don't expect everyone else to buy into the Peterson family's grift.
@@bonzocleach2496wow that’s a lot to unpack. Here’s a little tidbit to digest. His daughter has a continuing chronic condition which almost killed her, like any patient suffering with a serious medical issue, they are required to be on medication for the rest of their life. Now how about you present some evidence for attacking a person, I’m not interested in evidence about his and her medication. As a medical professional I understand the “abnormal degree” of medications required to remain health in both their cases. How about you provide some factual evidence on “ grifter and a wackjob” to support your claim. But hey, you do you, maybe listen to more of his interviews without getting triggered and who knows, you may realize that he stands for something and has made a difference. What has your contribution been to make change, good or bad in getting your message across to as many people. Ignorance is bliss, being uninformed is lazy.
@@primaryaccount5418 I can’t see the original reply to my comment, what was said?
@@primaryaccount5418 You're in too deep little fella. A grift is a grift. I'm certainly not denying your right to buy into the Peterson grift. If you haven't figured that out by now that it is a grift then you're already lost. Evidence????...Bwahahaha...were you born yesterday? The emotional breakdowns online aren't enough for you???
Good job Sam!!
These fools always be talking about crowd size!! Can they be anymore insecure?
Whenever someone talks about crowd sizes, ticket sales, etc, always remember "ad populum".....just because it's popular doesn't make it right or good.
McDonald's sells the most burgers. By far. And they're all garbage. Thats Jordan Peterson.
Unless Jordan Peterson is crying, I’m not interested! 😂🏴😂
Small minds discuss people; great minds talk about ideas. -Eleanor Roosevelt
Jordan Peterson says a lot of things that young men need to hear. Be responsible. Don't just go to work, be present. Be better than you were yesterday. Be presentable. Take care of your health.
It's when he goes into enforced monogamy rhetoric is where things get goofy. 80% of women want 20% of the men. Sooooo, if we force the top 20% of men to stay with one woman, there's more for the rest of us. I'm sorry, JP. Many of the top men are going to have multiple women. That's just natural. Especially without divorce? Monogamy for life is not natural to most humans.
Oh and every generation had these same exact problems. Anxiety, gay or straight?, join the military or wait to get drafted. That’s why prohibition didn’t last long, that was the heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl of those days to cope with problems.
Honestly a superficial argument, crowd sizes. P Diddy sold places out.
Chris on Culture - I dont like PBD nor Petersen BUT .... do NOT knock the Carnivore diet til you learn more about it better yet even TRY it ! Ive always been big and obese and nothing made me drop the weight til i got on the Carnivore diet. I started at 270 lbs 4 months ago now am at 230 and getting closer to my goal of 210. Its the easiest diet ive ever been on and YES it heals a lot of ailments from gastrointestinal ones to skin and general well being.
Jordan Peterson, the protector of women and mentor to men (eye roll), seemed entirely comfortable while his daughter was reportedly in a relationship with Andrew Tate. By what measure do the biz bros believe that Peterson is a positive role model to men and a wise father??? Meanwhile, Sam is a father of a son, Saul, with whom he talks about often, with pride. Seder is fair minded and an overall decent human being. I attended a Politicon here in L.A., and his panels were among my favorites. Seeing him debate Charlie Kirk was the highlight of the weekend.
I wonder if Jordan Peterson really believes the drivel he spouts, or if he's consciously and deliberately espousing nonsense?
I dont know know if you were just trying to make a quick buck with this video, but it is not good. You dont have a link to the original video, this video was around a year ago(Sam or PBD's stance on JP could have changed), and you didn't have any substance on the topic. You admitted you dont know much about JP, yet you are asking the audience who had the better take on JP. Do better...
Peterson’s 12 rules are patently obvious tenets for wayward 15 year old boys. Everything else is Andrew Tate psychobabble
Watching this and i see why people dont want to talk to Sam Seder........
He forces you out of the echo chamber and confronts you with logical conclusions that you can either engage with or laugh at.