Awesome video! Loved watching it. Having only been around solid state electronics, I had no idea that the tubes really glowed such crazy colors like violet and bright blue! Thanks!
My first complementary comment from a stranger! Thanks man! It really is cool when they light up. I knew about mercury vapor rectifiers before I i picked this thing up, but I wasn't prepared for how pretty they look running inside your machine. I was already jazzed to get my hands on a 10ee, but now I've got a 10ee with a big beautiful beating heart to boot!
It’s super cool, man! Thanks again for sharing. I’m excited to see more. Assuming it was you who posted it to r/Skookum, great call! Always happy to see more creators in this world, and I’d love to get more involved with it someday when I have the time.
We used to have a tube lathe similar to the 10EE when I was in undergrad for engineering in one of the labs. I was sad to see it go. I’ve always wanted to get 10EE and restore it to absolute mint condition. I’m so jealous that you’re doing it! Take some good video of the process! Feel free to reach out if you ever want a hand working on her!
Cool introduction to your new toy! I was browsing 10EE stuff, and fell right into the pile of Unburnable Trash. LOL I just picked up two of these machines myself this week, also replacing an old Atlas lathe. I'll be following along. I'll start filming some of my restoration soon too. Good Luck. -Luke
i dont mean to be offtopic but does any of you know a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I stupidly lost the password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me
@Brayan Bridger Thanks for your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process atm. I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Congrats on your first 10EE, looks to be a good one. On the C16Js you can find a semiconductor replacement available from a guy on the PracticalMachinist.com Monarch forum. I think that's a better idea than most of the C16Js you can buy now (I've got my hoard and am no giving them up). A lot of things will run funny w/o one so it's better to replace it sooner than later. There's an 8mfd cap up near the Thyrites (early MOV) that is almost certainly bad. The rest of the caps are not likely to be bad unless they've been abused. If you really want a light show try starting the driver with the spindle locked. Really bright glow from the C16Js. A friend once remove the arc breakers from the fwd/rev contactors and started/shut down the drive with some very impressive arcs, I recall something like 3-4 inches. Fun times! Once you've got the new tube and cap you might want to go through the drive calibration process. I think you'll like the results. I once abused my 1956 by taking a .250 DOC cut with a .013 feed in A2 tool steel. The lathe just grunted when the tool hit the A2 and went on producing a hot chip. I wouldn't advise doing that but the point is that you can make cuts that would make most other lathes in it's size weep. BTW: my 1959 is wearing parts I made on my 1972 Atlas 12x36
Loved the video! If all the rest are of this same quality and integrity, Tom and Keith both need to give you a shout-out. Your number of subscribers should be an order of magnitude or two higher by now if that's the barometer of such and those two could do that with one...two fell swoops I imagine. Anyways, I have to keep watching to see what fate lies ahead for you and this incredible machine. Best of luck, brother!
Thanks man! I think I'm going to be doomed to a low-subscriber count for the long-term future. I just want to have fun with my channel and not crank out videos every week. I'm just too distractable and busy. I'm pretty happy with just making music videos about the stuff I build and repair. Hopefully there's enough people out there that want to see that stuff too.
Good video, I have some EE’s, have you seen where some people are gutting out the DC motor and sticking in a 3 phase motor inside of the old DC motor frame and coupling it to the back gear box?
I have. The VFD solution isn't that great compared to the original WIAD drive and 5hp DC motor. To get the best results from the VFD swap you need a 7.5 hp motor to make sure you don't loose too much torque when you alter the frequency to change speed. The VFD is a much more reliable and maintenance free solution however.
Could you tell me how your start/stop switch is wired? specifically what the leads are labeled as and what terminals they go to? Mine was taken apart when i received my machine. Also i have 3 large wires exiting the rear of the machine labeled L1, L2 and L3 and three smaller diameter wires unlabeled. Did you wire the three large wires 220v single phase to power up the machine? are the other wires for the hyd pump? Thank you.
I can look this up, but it might be a few days before I can do the leg work to get you an answer. Is your machine a square dial with a WIAD, like mine? It sounds like you might have an older version.
Its a square wiad idetical to yours. 1953 is the year on serial plate. I just need a picture of the wires wired to the start stop switch and what they are labeled. Mine was unwired.
This one is connected two legs of a 208v delta-type three phase service. The WIAD system is "phase agnostic," but you still need to match voltage. Some were designed for 440v-480v and they will not run on a 208v-240v service.
@@rainman6272 Thank you. I have a 1960, I bought 10 years ago and have never powered it up because I don't have 3 phase or a converter and I didn't want to blow the tubes not knowing what I'm doing. And I assure you, I do not know what I am doing when it comes to electrical. Mine has an add on, very professional looking, elec cabinet on the back that I didn't realize until now wasn't OE. So maybe someone has bypassed the WIAD system all together. I'm not sure what I have. Do you have an email I can send a picture to?
do you think you could tell me the wire orientations as they go to the start/stop switch? the wires are labeled. i bought a 10ee wiad without a start switch and i want to confirm they are correct as i have them hooked up.
I don't have the lathe anymore, but I'd you go the description of this video ua-cam.com/video/ocSiuGI19Ps/v-deo.html, there's a link to the Practical Machinist thread with schematics and references to technical documents.
For a home shop, it's the ultimate. Really bummed that I wasn't able to keep it when I had to move my shop. These days I have roughly 8'x8' on a cracked foundation... so just a toolbox and a welding table now.
How hard was it to move into place? I've been toying with the idea of getting a 10EE but moving it seems difficult. I've moved 1200 lbs lathes with no issue but this thing is probably 3-4 times that weight.
The hardest part was getting it through my narrow shop door. If you look up "Move a lathe like a boss" on OxTools channel, you can see some of the hardware we used that made it pretty easy. We still needed a big stake bed truck, but something smaller would have done the job too. Gross weight of this thing is in the neighborhood of two tonnes. I'd post a link, but I'm on mobile.
Nice. With my Logan, I went over with my minivan and engine hoist, we separated the bed from the cabinet then fed them into the back of the van with the hoist one at a time. Then I stuffed the hoist back in and drove off. She was squatting pretty good. Supposedly she can haul 2000 lbs in the back but 1200 was already feeling close to the limit. I need to get good at machining before I make the leap to a nice lathe.
@@quademasters249 As nice as it is to have something as big and solid as a 10ee, there's something to be said for having shop equipment that you can move with just the family van.
Thanks for the great video! What voltage are you running your EE on? We have a '56 EE @ the shop that has not been used in 30 years because it is wired for 460V, and the shop only has 220V. But I am on the quest to get it running next year which led me to your video, and I learned something new about these machines from watching. I did not know that the wiring diagram is located on that cover (mainly because I cannot access the WiaD drawer or the back cover at the moment) and the troubleshooting on the inside... WOW! Subbed to see more!
Awesome video! Loved watching it.
Having only been around solid state electronics, I had no idea that the tubes really glowed such crazy colors like violet and bright blue!
Thanks!
My first complementary comment from a stranger! Thanks man! It really is cool when they light up. I knew about mercury vapor rectifiers before I i picked this thing up, but I wasn't prepared for how pretty they look running inside your machine. I was already jazzed to get my hands on a 10ee, but now I've got a 10ee with a big beautiful beating heart to boot!
It’s super cool, man! Thanks again for sharing. I’m excited to see more. Assuming it was you who posted it to r/Skookum, great call! Always happy to see more creators in this world, and I’d love to get more involved with it someday when I have the time.
We used to have a tube lathe similar to the 10EE when I was in undergrad for engineering in one of the labs. I was sad to see it go. I’ve always wanted to get 10EE and restore it to absolute mint condition. I’m so jealous that you’re doing it! Take some good video of the process! Feel free to reach out if you ever want a hand working on her!
Cool introduction to your new toy! I was browsing 10EE stuff, and fell right into the pile of Unburnable Trash. LOL I just picked up two of these machines myself this week, also replacing an old Atlas lathe. I'll be following along. I'll start filming some of my restoration soon too. Good Luck. -Luke
You are a natural for youtube presentation. I stumbled upon your channel through reddit and you hooked me already
Gotta love that purple glow!
i dont mean to be offtopic but does any of you know a tool to get back into an Instagram account?
I stupidly lost the password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me
@Johan Joseph instablaster ;)
@Brayan Bridger Thanks for your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process atm.
I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Brayan Bridger It worked and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thanks so much you really help me out!
@Johan Joseph You are welcome :)
Subscribed, good quality home shop machinist type vid. Keep it up and you got a loyal follower.
Congrats on your first 10EE, looks to be a good one. On the C16Js you can find a semiconductor replacement available from a guy on the PracticalMachinist.com Monarch forum. I think that's a better idea than most of the C16Js you can buy now (I've got my hoard and am no giving them up). A lot of things will run funny w/o one so it's better to replace it sooner than later.
There's an 8mfd cap up near the Thyrites (early MOV) that is almost certainly bad. The rest of the caps are not likely to be bad unless they've been abused.
If you really want a light show try starting the driver with the spindle locked. Really bright glow from the C16Js. A friend once remove the arc breakers from the fwd/rev contactors and started/shut down the drive with some very impressive arcs, I recall something like 3-4 inches. Fun times!
Once you've got the new tube and cap you might want to go through the drive calibration process. I think you'll like the results. I once abused my 1956 by taking a .250 DOC cut with a .013 feed in A2 tool steel. The lathe just grunted when the tool hit the A2 and went on producing a hot chip. I wouldn't advise doing that but the point is that you can make cuts that would make most other lathes in it's size weep.
BTW: my 1959 is wearing parts I made on my 1972 Atlas 12x36
Loved the video! If all the rest are of this same quality and integrity, Tom and Keith both need to give you a shout-out. Your number of subscribers should be an order of magnitude or two higher by now if that's the barometer of such and those two could do that with one...two fell swoops I imagine. Anyways, I have to keep watching to see what fate lies ahead for you and this incredible machine. Best of luck, brother!
Thanks man! I think I'm going to be doomed to a low-subscriber count for the long-term future. I just want to have fun with my channel and not crank out videos every week. I'm just too distractable and busy. I'm pretty happy with just making music videos about the stuff I build and repair. Hopefully there's enough people out there that want to see that stuff too.
Good video, I have some EE’s, have you seen where some people are gutting out the DC motor and sticking in a 3 phase motor inside of the old DC motor frame and coupling it to the back gear box?
I have. The VFD solution isn't that great compared to the original WIAD drive and 5hp DC motor. To get the best results from the VFD swap you need a 7.5 hp motor to make sure you don't loose too much torque when you alter the frequency to change speed.
The VFD is a much more reliable and maintenance free solution however.
Could you tell me how your start/stop switch is wired? specifically what the leads are labeled as and what terminals they go to? Mine was taken apart when i received my machine. Also i have 3 large wires exiting the rear of the machine labeled L1, L2 and L3 and three smaller diameter wires unlabeled. Did you wire the three large wires 220v single phase to power up the machine? are the other wires for the hyd pump? Thank you.
I can look this up, but it might be a few days before I can do the leg work to get you an answer. Is your machine a square dial with a WIAD, like mine? It sounds like you might have an older version.
Its a square wiad idetical to yours. 1953 is the year on serial plate. I just need a picture of the wires wired to the start stop switch and what they are labeled. Mine was unwired.
How do you have it powered? Actual 3phase, rotary or static converter?
This one is connected two legs of a 208v delta-type three phase service. The WIAD system is "phase agnostic," but you still need to match voltage. Some were designed for 440v-480v and they will not run on a 208v-240v service.
@@rainman6272 Thank you. I have a 1960, I bought 10 years ago and have never powered it up because I don't have 3 phase or a converter and I didn't want to blow the tubes not knowing what I'm doing. And I assure you, I do not know what I am doing when it comes to electrical. Mine has an add on, very professional looking, elec cabinet on the back that I didn't realize until now wasn't OE. So maybe someone has bypassed the WIAD system all together. I'm not sure what I have. Do you have an email I can send a picture to?
do you think you could tell me the wire orientations as they go to the start/stop switch? the wires are labeled. i bought a 10ee wiad without a start switch and i want to confirm they are correct as i have them hooked up.
or send me a picture?
I don't have the lathe anymore, but I'd you go the description of this video ua-cam.com/video/ocSiuGI19Ps/v-deo.html, there's a link to the Practical Machinist thread with schematics and references to technical documents.
great video! Looking forward to more!!!!
EE is my favorite lathe!
For a home shop, it's the ultimate. Really bummed that I wasn't able to keep it when I had to move my shop. These days I have roughly 8'x8' on a cracked foundation... so just a toolbox and a welding table now.
How hard was it to move into place? I've been toying with the idea of getting a 10EE but moving it seems difficult. I've moved 1200 lbs lathes with no issue but this thing is probably 3-4 times that weight.
The hardest part was getting it through my narrow shop door. If you look up "Move a lathe like a boss" on OxTools channel, you can see some of the hardware we used that made it pretty easy. We still needed a big stake bed truck, but something smaller would have done the job too. Gross weight of this thing is in the neighborhood of two tonnes. I'd post a link, but I'm on mobile.
Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/YJeoaW2Zbhg/v-deo.html
Nice. With my Logan, I went over with my minivan and engine hoist, we separated the bed from the cabinet then fed them into the back of the van with the hoist one at a time. Then I stuffed the hoist back in and drove off. She was squatting pretty good. Supposedly she can haul 2000 lbs in the back but 1200 was already feeling close to the limit. I need to get good at machining before I make the leap to a nice lathe.
@@quademasters249 "be good at machining" didn't let that stop me! X-D
@@quademasters249 As nice as it is to have something as big and solid as a 10ee, there's something to be said for having shop equipment that you can move with just the family van.
Thanks for the great video! What voltage are you running your EE on? We have a '56 EE @ the shop that has not been used in 30 years because it is wired for 460V, and the shop only has 220V. But I am on the quest to get it running next year which led me to your video, and I learned something new about these machines from watching. I did not know that the wiring diagram is located on that cover (mainly because I cannot access the WiaD drawer or the back cover at the moment) and the troubleshooting on the inside... WOW! Subbed to see more!
Looking at a 10EE for $800.. Not much there electrically.. BUT I LOVE IT!!!
If the bearings are good and the ways aren't saggy $800 is a steal!
Love it mate keep it going, big secret is that most people are full of shit so don’t worry about it
How interesting, a lathe with vacume tubes
Some are vacuum, some are gas-filled. The bright blue ones aren't even noble gases, they're mercury-vapor.
@@rainman6272 very cool, glad you took the time to share the video
Dying to get 1 of these machines
Me too, since I was forced to sell 😂
@@rainman6272 sorry to hear that