Im a CNC machine operator working with ESAB plasmas and ficep machines. Im looking at getting a job as roller bender. How easy is it to pick it up as a job
I been rolling on and off like 8 years now. Cones are the worst. Usually 1/4" thick sometimes up to 5/8". Is there an equation on how to set up rolls in conical mode ? Like how much of a pitch to use based on diamter of cone ?
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If you mean the pre-bending of both sides before rolling, then you just use a radius tool (we for example have a few hundred circle cutouts with different radiuses) to check it from the smallest point & the biggest point. A good drawing has both of those radiuses mentioned. Bend as near the end as your machine allows. If you're new, you'll probably want to go slow & check from time to time before you overshoot the wanted radius. If you've made radiuses in many forms a.k.a. experience, you'll kinda know by eye where to stop & check. In short, you press the pedal until metal is bent close enough to the desired radius. It's fine if the radius is a bit over or under. Rolling will fix that.
@@Rmtus like a bearing? or just a hard piece of metal like square stock? ours has the square stock and rubs really hard on the i.d. and kind of smooshes the id
@@robertgoyen3187 Hello Robert, Your machine sounds like it has a hardened snubber, ( Which is Ok) you need to take your pinch pressure down, - if material can not swing or move, it will really put a lot of pressure on your snubber
I'm guessing it's the back edge of the roller machine that is "turning" the sheet metal. So I don't know if there is any real reason to put the rollers at an angle...
Their put on an angle because for you to get the correct radius at the small end you need to have to rollers set to that size. You dont have to set them like that but you will need to pre bend those edges or they will end up flat and you will be hitting them around with a hammer. When youre doing shit like this you really need to tip those edges. First
The company I work for installed a set of Faccin 4 roll plate rolls last year and they bought them on the premise of rolling cones in automatic mode. We find out from the service tech because of the pinch roll needing to slip in order to rotate the cone thru the rolls, its not possible to roll cones in auto mode. I can make a program based on large and small diameters, plate thickness, yield strength and width which gives me a ballpark starting point but have yet to successfully roll cones on them. I either use our old trusty 3 roll initial pinch rolls or a godforsaken press brake. Programs for simple cylindrical shell shapes are way off from the program numbers to actual numbers. But, I was "trained" by a service tech that was of no help so what I can do on the rolls I learned on my own. That's the reason I'm on UA-cam now, looking for answers lol...
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😂😂😂 that cracked me up! My bro-n-law wants me to repair his cone shaped Hopper...I guess I'm going to have to go out and spend a half a mill for a machine
So have I on a set of rolls about 70yrs old, no tilt and big hand wheels each end. On small heavy small ones it was always easier to set in two halves in the flanger.
Im a CNC machine operator working with ESAB plasmas and ficep machines. Im looking at getting a job as roller bender. How easy is it to pick it up as a job
I been rolling on and off like 8 years now. Cones are the worst. Usually 1/4" thick sometimes up to 5/8". Is there an equation on how to set up rolls in conical mode ? Like how much of a pitch to use based on diamter of cone ?
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What size plate is that ?
Oh, so that's how they make those cones for custom bellhousings. Just weld on flanges and add a provision for the starter and BAM!
What is the thickness capacity
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Is there any calculation to set the angles of roller as per conical shape, or can we set coordinates in machine to roll perfectly?
Good job for heavy material
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How to bend the two ends to the correct radius, based on experience or calculation?
If you mean the pre-bending of both sides before rolling, then you just use a radius tool (we for example have a few hundred circle cutouts with different radiuses) to check it from the smallest point & the biggest point. A good drawing has both of those radiuses mentioned. Bend as near the end as your machine allows. If you're new, you'll probably want to go slow & check from time to time before you overshoot the wanted radius. If you've made radiuses in many forms a.k.a. experience, you'll kinda know by eye where to stop & check. In short, you press the pedal until metal is bent close enough to the desired radius. It's fine if the radius is a bit over or under. Rolling will fix that.
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How do you get the cone off in the end? Take apart the roller?
The hub ( red item at the end holding the top roller) is tilted backwards by the hydraulic cylinder, thus creating an opening.
Interesting! Nice machine
Are your rolls flat or crowned?
shrunken skull outdoors- Rolls have standard job shop crown -
How minimumtolerance
plz send to cnc roll for rolling round or cone plz send me to 2-5 mm thick ss 304 sheet
what is the i.d. pivoting on?
It is equipped with a snubber.
@@Rmtus like a bearing? or just a hard piece of metal like square stock? ours has the square stock and rubs really hard on the i.d. and kind of smooshes the id
@@robertgoyen3187 Hello Robert, Your machine sounds like it has a hardened snubber, ( Which is Ok) you need to take your pinch pressure down, - if material can not swing or move, it will really put a lot of pressure on your snubber
@@Rmtus gotcha thanks!
its a nice job , looks like 5 or 6mm ??
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How take out of cone
The End Bearing (red circle) Is on a hydraulic Pivoting hinge. It unlocks from Roll and opens so the piece can slide right off the end.
You have to cut the machine in two with a cutting disc, and then you buy a new one
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How do you know how much tilt you need for different degree of cones?
Actually you have to figure out how to cut it on the computer
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I'm guessing it's the back edge of the roller machine that is "turning" the sheet metal. So I don't know if there is any real reason to put the rollers at an angle...
Their put on an angle because for you to get the correct radius at the small end you need to have to rollers set to that size. You dont have to set them like that but you will need to pre bend those edges or they will end up flat and you will be hitting them around with a hammer. When youre doing shit like this you really need to tip those edges. First
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Are all the motions pre-programmed, ala CNC, or is this being done 'manually'. (Be nice to see the operator.)
The company I work for installed a set of Faccin 4 roll plate rolls last year and they bought them on the premise of rolling cones in automatic mode. We find out from the service tech because of the pinch roll needing to slip in order to rotate the cone thru the rolls, its not possible to roll cones in auto mode. I can make a program based on large and small diameters, plate thickness, yield strength and width which gives me a ballpark starting point but have yet to successfully roll cones on them. I either use our old trusty 3 roll initial pinch rolls or a godforsaken press brake. Programs for simple cylindrical shell shapes are way off from the program numbers to actual numbers. But, I was "trained" by a service tech that was of no help so what I can do on the rolls I learned on my own. That's the reason I'm on UA-cam now, looking for answers lol...
Part was formed manually - It is possible to form some cones in "NC" mode with correct setup
@@Rmtus Hi, how do you take the cone out?
@@Bondolomata el soporte dondé gira el rodillo de arriba es movible , exactamente ese lado donde se fabrica el cono. Ese soporte baja por medio de un cilindro hidraulico
@@benmayo1630 could You help me with some directions for using a 4 rolls Machine?
I have a 4 rolls Machine DURMA brand.
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😂😂😂 that cracked me up! My bro-n-law wants me to repair his cone shaped Hopper...I guess I'm going to have to go out and spend a half a mill for a machine
@@billmers3219 lol. Have a great day
Lame. Don't need to pre bend each edge. Why was it ran through so many times? No skill?
No skill? It looked pretty fucken good to me.. Tipping the edges is almost always vital on cones especially thicker sheet.
Good job on the "thick" material.
@@vatandas1542You have to set the ends when rolling anything otherwise it will be flat at butts
I've done such a cone but from 12mm steel 😎 go hard or go home 😋
So have I on a set of rolls about 70yrs old, no tilt and big hand wheels each end. On small heavy small ones it was always easier to set in two halves in the flanger.
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