2 recordings of Helmuth Von Molkte-1889
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2012
- This is a little off topic for Music Project X (Although only slightly so). These are two recordings done of Helmuth Von Molkte. Helmuth Von Moltke is unfairly best remembered today as the uncle of Helmuth Johann Ludwig von Moltke, who is claimed by many to have single handedly lost world war 1 for the German Empire. This is the first posting of this recording on UA-cam in English. The Source of these recordings can be viewed here.
www.nps.gov/edis/photosmultime...
Transcript of the recording, in both German and English
1st Recording
Kreisau, on the, uh-
Silesia, on the twenty-first of October,
1889. (Announcer)
(Molkte)
This newest invention of Mister Edison is indeed astonishing. The telephone makes it possible for a man who has already rested long in the grave once again to raise his voice and greet the present.
This newest invention of Mister Edison is indeed astonishing. The phonograph makes it possible for a man who has already rested long in the grave once again to raise his voice and greet the present.
"Ye instruments, forsooth, but jeer at me
With wheel and cog, and shapes uncouth of wonder;
I found the portal, you the keys should be;
Your wards are deftly wrought, but drive no bolts asunder!
"Mysterious even in open day,
Nature retains her veil, despite our clamours:
That which she doth not willingly display
Cannot be wrenched from her with levers, screws, and hammers."
[Announcer:] Kreisau am, uh-
Schlesien, am einundzwanzigsten Oktober,
achtzehnhundertneunundachtzig.
[Moltke:] Diese neueste Erfindung des Herrn Edison ist in der Tat staunenswert. Das Telephon ermöglicht, dass ein Mann, der lange schon im Grabe liegt, noch einmal seine Stimme erhebt und die Gegenwart begrüßt.
Diese neueste Erfindung des Herrn Edison ist in der Tat staunenswert. Der Phonograph ermöglicht, dass ein Mann, der schon lange im Grabe ruht, noch einmal seine Stimme erhebt und die Gegenwart begrüßt.
"Ihr Instrumente spottet mein
Mit Rad und Kämmen, Walz' und Bügel;
Ich stand am Thor, ihr solltet Schlüssel sein;
Zwar euer Bart ist Kraus, doch hebt ihr nicht die Riegel.
"Geheimnissvoll am lichten Tag
Lässt sich Natur des Schleiers nicht berauben,
Und was sie deinem Geist nicht offenbaren mag.
Das zwingst du ihr nicht ab mit Hebeln und mit Schrauben."
2nd Recording
reisau, the 21st of October
1889.
"Give every man your ear, but few thy voice."
For if your mind turns round, immediately it comes back. General Field Marshall Count Moltke.
"Yet in each soul is born the pleasure
Of yearning onward, upward and away.
When o'er our heads, lost in the vaulted azure,
The lark sends down his flickering lay;
When over crags and piny highlands
The poising eagle slowly soars,
And over plains and lakes and islands
The crane sails by to other shores."
"Yet in each soul is born the pleasure
Of yearning onward, upward and away.
When o'er our heads, lost in the vaulted azure,
The lark sends down his flickering lay;
When over crags and piny highlands
The poising eagle slowly soars,
And over plains and lakes and islands
The crane sails by to other shores."
21st October, Kreisau, Count Moltke.
[Announcer:] Kreisau, den einundzwanzigsten Oktober achtzehnhundertneunundachtzig.
[Moltke:] "Dein Ohr leih Jedem, Wen'gen deine Stimme."
Denn dreht um dein Sinn, gleich kommt's zurück. Generalfeldmarschall Graf Moltke.
"Doch ist es jedem eingeboren
Dass sein Gefühl hinauf und vorwärts dringt,
Wenn hoch im blauen Raum verloren,
Ihr schmetternd Lied die Lerche singt;
Wenn über schroffen Fichtenhöhen
Der Adler in den Lüften schwebt,
Und über Flächen, über Seen
Der Kranich nach der Heimat strebt."
"Doch ist es jedem eingeboren
Dass sein Gefühl hinauf und vorwärts dringt,
Wenn hoch im blauen Raum verloren,
Ihr schmetternd Lied die Lerche singt;
Wenn über schroffen Fichtenhöhen
Der Adler in den Lüften schwebt,
Und über Flächen, über Seen
Der Kranich nach der Heimat strebt."
Einundzwanzigster Oktober, Kreisau, Graf Moltke.
[Another voice:] Achtzehnhundertneunundachtzig.
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The voice of someone born 220 years ago!!!
Awesome
Recorded 142 years ago in a few days from me making this note.
I am so impressed that the German he speaks sounds modern and understandable. Having German as a second language, it is even today sometimes tricky to understand people with pronounced accents, but Helmuth is fully understandable.
Feels like listening to a ghost, far away, yet still somehow barely here.
So when he was born, King George III is still alive and Napoleon as well, interesting
@@Britishball Moltke was 3 years old when Napoleon became Emperor
@@user-onyxobsidian999 He was born on 26 October 1800. Which means that he was conceived around January 1800. He was a zygote just ONE MONTH after GEORGE WASHINGTON died
Truly ironic, that the "silent one" is the only man from the 18th century to have his voice recorded
Nah Bismarck had his voice recorded too
@@Arschlochterminator69 Bismarck born in 1815
@@Arschlochterminator69 the 18th century is the 1700s. OP is saying that Helmuth is the only person born in 1700s (the year 1800 is technically apart of the 1700s) to have his voice recorded.
Otto von Bismarck was born in the 19th century.
Bismarck, Wilhelm II
19th*
I think he did appreiciate it since he mentions the technology allowing somone who is in the grave to speak again. What a wonderful way to put it.
It's crazy to think that he was born when Germany was still called the Holy Roman Empire and we could hear his voice
Holy Crap, you are right 💀
Not only is he the oldest person to have recorded his voice, he seemed very cognizant of what recording one's voice meant for posterity. He was already thinking about US! Here we are in the year 2021 listening to his voice, and he was born 220 years ago. If only this technology had been invented 100 years earlier.
We’d be able to hear all the greats from the Age of Enlightenment... how beautiful that would be...
@Southpaw658 worthless tbh
Yeah This Record In 1889, He Will Be 89 Years Old That Time
What's to impressive but creepy at the same time is that you can interact with a future that is hundreds of years away from you, but not with a past that lies 10 seconds behind you.
He was a man of the future. He was the man who modernised the Prussian army into the most modern force of the 19th century.
Fascinating, would like to hear it cleaned up and with translation.
In the first recording he is taking about how amazing it is that the voice of a dead person can be preserved through a Telefone. After that he says the same thing but he corrects himself by calling it phonograph. In the second recording I think he is reciting some sort of poem about being a good listener and not talking too much with everyone.
Can you imagine being in the golden age of industrialization and see how the world changes from steam to electricity and gasoline. Or from musket to precise magazine fed rifles, revolvers? The world changed so drastically and fast in these 100 years it must have been outstanding
someone born in 1920 and living for 100 years would experience even more drastic changes
@@adambassuni6084 or someone born in the early 1880s in a world with no cars, no heavier than air aerial vehicles, no ways of recording or transmitting sound over large distances, no moving pictures, let alone TV, no concept of a universal computing machine growing up to sit in his home, see TV images and sounds of people driving a car on the moon, that had been flown there by what's essentially a further development of fireworks, then talking about it to a friend on the telephone and a decade and a half later playing a game of Super Mario Bros. with their grandkid.
Moltke is such an important figure in modern warfare, it's a pity that he's not very well known today. Waiting for Biographics to do a video on him
@Walshyman That's partly why I put him up instead of Otto Von BIsmarck-he seemed to have a genuine respect for the technology he was working with when most people in his day probably thought of audio recordings as some king of a toy...
On 21 October 1889, Generalfeldmarschall von Moltke made two audio recordings with Adelbert Theodor Wangemann, a German native who worked with Thomas Edison and had been sent to Europe with Edison's newly invented cylinder phonograph. Moltke recorded a line from Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3 ("Dein Ohr leih Jedem, Wen’gen deine Stimme" - Give every man thy ear but few thy voice) and a passage from Goethe's "Faust" on two wax cylinders, recordings which were lost until 1957 and were unidentified for decades after.
From Wikipedia
The only person born in XVIII (1800) whose voice is recorded.
Otto von Bismarck?
@@RamanShrikant Bismarck born in 1815.
due to the way the calendar works i.e. thier is no year zero as it went from 1 BC to 1AD the centaury actually starts in the year 01 not 00 so technically he was born at the very end of the 18th Centaury despite being born in 1800
@@jonsouth1545 yea , the caption says 17th century which is wrong. 17th century is the 1600's
@@jonsouth1545 So many people don't know this. I say it all the time "there is no year zero". A new century only starts on the first year (1801, 1901, 2001 &c) while the naughts are still part of the previous century. I am glad someone elso knows.
"Der Schweigsame" wurde auf den ersten Tonaufnahmen verewigt.. was für eine Ironie.
Molkte was 74 when Jeanne Calment was born. Jeanne Calment died in 1997, aged 122. I was born in 1996, which makes me just TWO lifetimes away from GEORGE WASHINGTON
The voice of a person who was born in the 18th century!
Awesome! What a military genius this guy was.
+JimmyBean456 His real brilliance wasn't as a general of a strategist-it was as an administrator. He modernized the Prussian army's command structure and officer training. It was the same advantage the Japanese boasted over the Russians when they went to war.
While a lot of his success can be attributed to modernising logistics, he also was a great strategist. He lead the German armies in three wars, and won all of them.
Vielen danke, herr Silvianoshei
German 😎
@@AGH331
He had a great discipline
He was born on 26 October 1800. Which means that he was conceived around January 1800. He was a zygote just ONE MONTH after GEORGE WASHINGTON died!
Thank you for putting this up for us, truly a milestone in recording history - this guy IS history!
The audio quality on this recording is exceptional
ich begrüße Sie Herrn von Moltke von der Gegenwart. Ist wirklich schade dass wir zur verschiedenen Zeitraüme gehören aber Ihre Erfolge werden immer in Erinnerung bleiben, ohne die wir nie ein vereignigtes Land haben können.
This should be played in Sedan
One of the best generals of history.
He served to Ottoman Empire as a captain. I read his diaries written in these days. Awesome... He lived 3 years in Turkiye, and his proposals to fix problems of ottoman army... Beyond the age of his time...
He is a city planner too and the first man who prepared istanbul's city plans first time.
The quality is unfortunately too bad to understand him.
„Dass […] der im Grabe ruht noch ein Mal seine Stimme erhebt und die Gegenwart begrüßt.“
1800 is 18th century
1801-1900 is 19th century
Precisely!
This is because there was no year 0. Therefore the first year of the first century was 1 AD and the hundredth one was obviously 100 AD.
@Reece A
each century has 100 years, so:
1-100 (1st century)
101-200 (2nd century)
201-300 (3rd century)
301-400 (4th century)
401-500 (5th century)
501-600 (6th century)
601-700 (7th century)
701-800 (8th century)
801-900 (9th century)
901-1000 (10th century)
1001-1100 (11th century)
1101-1200 (12th century)
1201-1300 (13th century)
1301-1400 (14th century)
1401-1500 (15th century)
1501-1600 (16th century)
1601-1700 (17th century)
1701-1800 (18th century)
1801-1900 (19th century)
1901-2000 (20th century)
2001-2100 (21st century)
there's also a different type of century:
1-100 (100's century)
200-299 (200's century)
300-399 (300's century)
400-499 (400's century)
500-599 (500's century)
600-699 (600's century)
700-799 (700's century)
800-899 (800's century)
900-999 (900's century)
1000-1099 (1000's century)
1200-1299 (1200's century)
1300-1399 (1300's century)
1400-1499 (1400's century)
1500-1599 (1500's century)
1600-1699 (1600's century)
1700-1799 (1700's century)
1800-1899 (1800's century)
1900-1999 (1900's century)
2000-2099 (2000's century)
Oh it makes sense now
Amazing, I feel so honoured
Thank you, Thomas.
Born when Washington was dead less than a year
Died when Hitler was alive
He was in his mid-twenties when Thomas Jefferson died.
@@markaja2 and Adams because he died the exact same year and day as Jefferson
@@markaja2 He was born on 26 October 1800. Which means that he was conceived around January 1800. He was a zygote just ONE MONTH after GEORGE WASHINGTON died!
@DCM61923 And he outlasted Lincoln.
Amazing, what an intellectual
The Only Voice Recording Of A Person Born In The 18th Century
18th century*
Only by a technicality. He was really a early 19th century person. I know that technically 1800 is the year before the 19th century, but when I think of the 19th century I consider it to be someone who was around in the 1700s
@@DarthScorpio11 the video states the 17th century, which is the error being pointed out
@@DarthScorpio11 But he was 89 years old when he recorded it, he was born during the french revolution.
The closest we can get to hearing how someone would have sounded in the 1700s. People tend to take on the same sound as their parents and grandparents especially back then since language did not change particularly quickly.
With photographic evidence going back to people being born around 1750 that's about the same distance either way. It's quite fascinating that humanity seems to have developed the means to capture picture and sound at the same time.
It seems that we learned everything else also at the same time. The industrial revolution to the information age to the nuclear era to the space age all happened within 150 years. I honestly wondered what would have happened had Leonardo da Vinci's workbooks not been lost. I also wonder what would have happened had the ancient Greeks and the Romans not fallen and the Dark ages not happened. We went a thousand years thinking that the world was flat when people understood it wasn't for the longest time. It's quite possible that we could have been on the moon 1000-700 years ago. Who knows?
One of the great generals of all time! Wish he was here now to give us his wisdom . Go miene vaterland !!
He is up there with Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar and Napoleon Bonaparte as one of the greatest military commanders to ever walk the Earth.
Sorry for the goof at the beginning.
Amazing
Just think, when this man was born, America had only been independent from Britain for 24 years, Mexico was still controlled by Spain and Napoleon was in control of Louisiana.
Fascinating
What a fucking legend.
Amazing.
It's silly, but if'd go outside and play this voice recording in public, than a 18th century born man's voice would be heard for the first time in over a century.
he left the microphone in his pocket!
Average Sun Tzu Fanboy vs Average Von Moltke Enthusiast
Obviously very rough quality but still amusing to hear.
This is the same as if the one, who lives in 2222, will hear me speaking, goddamn.
un genio de la estrategia y logistica militar!!!
Whoa.
Needs to fix his microphone settings
Surely the noise could be cut-out.
Off you go
@@dielaughing73, lol
I would say he is most famous for being such a crucial part in the unification of Germany through his leadership of the Prussian army, but I guess Moltke the younger's failure in WWI is well known
So amazing he from 18th century
Sounds like the guy cranking the recording device was going a lil too hard
WOW
17th century starts on January 1st, 1601 and ends on 31st of December, 1700.
You are referring to 18th century.
He doesn't really sound different than someone from Mecklenburg today.
Could someone add german subtitles?
crazy
Voices from the past
The Man Who Was Born During John Adams Presidental Term
There's a woman at the end sating "1889".
This is spooky ngl.
Wasn't one of the von Moltke's executed on Hitler's orders?
Yes. It was Helmuth James Graf von Moltke.
Does anyone know how closely Dark Shadows' Alexandra von Moltke is related to the von Moltkes of Hitler's time?
If memory serves, der Fuehrer had a von Moltke killed, according to Hitler: The Last Ten Days (1973).
*****
Speaking in the voice of one of my favourite World War 2 German officers, Gen. Burkhalter: "MOST interesting, Klink."
PLUS...
In the voice of the inimitable Auric Goldfinger: "You are unusually well-informed, Mr. Bond."
26.08.15
yeah, his great grandnephew i think. He was a fierce opponent of Nazi regime.
Sounds like my first Sony
Alive when Hamilton was
On this tape you can only understand Moltkes voice, when he spoke out the day and year 1889. His other words are mostly overlaid by scrabbles.
대박
a time travel
Why?
goat
How do you have a voice recording of someone who is 200 years old
well, it was made when he was already old
dieses Englisch hört sich doch sehr deutsch an ... der Adler in den Lüften schwebt ... also ich hör da nichts Englisches
das ist eine Übersetzung. Das Format in der Beschreibung ist aber freilich etwas durcheinander geraten
I was born in 2000, that means I was born in the same century that Queen Victoria was alive in??
correct
You care a lot about criminals.
@@DeMonotheist The fuck
@@DeMonotheistnpc
the key to Prussian victory over the French was mobilization & rapid deployment of 3 Prussian armies before France could mobilize it's forces..
Thanks for posting, but...ummm... the 17th century (1600-1700) is not 1800. - H.v. Moltke Sr. was born at the dawn (the first year) of the 19th century (1800-1900).
Whatever the case, the zero year is the last year to the previous century. So you're half right.
@@0eon419 - No. The “zero year” of a century is the first year of that century, not the final year of the previous century (the year 2000 was the first year of the 21st century - and of the third millennium CE - not the last year of the 20th century, which was 1999). This is basic historical chronology.
@big heavy dragon - ✅🙂
@@dorianphilotheates3769 2000 was the last year of the 20th century.
Geiler Scheiß
Me as a German understands everything :)
You mean the 18th century
Radio was invented in 1872
People in 1889:
This isn't recorded on radio or has anything to do with radio...
Moltke not Molkte!
0:03 If 1800 is considered part of the 1700s (and strictly speaking it is) then 1800 is part of the 18th century and not the 17th.
Yeah, he's mistaken quite a bit
Awesome
just one or two years earlier and it would be from the 18th century
He already is from the 18th century.
@@timv.8974 yea i get that now
Niezwykłe
Wouldn't this be 19th century? 1800-1899 is 19th century. 17th century would be the 1600s way before any recordings were ever done
The 19th century stars in 1801, that's because there is no year 0, we start counting from year 1. Thus, a man born in 1800, means he was born in the 18th century
1801 was the first year of the 19th century. 1900 was the last...100 years.
Not how it works. If you were born on December 30th 2000, you'd be born in the 20th Century.
The first century began in the year 1 AD and lasted like every century 100 years, so it included the full year 100 AD. The second century began in the year 101 AD.
18th century!!!
@@jonsouth1545 17th century ends in 1699;)
@@michalkonieczny3896 it doesn´t
the first century in our calendar went from year 1 to 100, not from 0 to 99. There is no year 0. So, the second century actually stars 101 and goes to 200 and so on. And who was born in 1800 (like Moltke) was born in the last year of the 18th century.
@@Shigeru0508 18th century still. The 18th century ran from 1701-1800. 17th century was 1601-1700.
@@frosthammer917 OK, I just noticed I made a mistake in my last sentence. I meant 18th century, not 17th. Thx.
He was born in the 17th century?
18th century.
@@lucasdamotta2931 if he is born in 1800, he is born in the 19th century. the 18th century only goes until 1799.
@@Treborianus no. 19th century starts in 1801
@@Treborianus There was no year 0, thus the first century went from 1-100 (100 included), hence the 18th century went from 1701-1800 (1800 included).
@@LoGStein You know that there were years before 0 BC? for me the centuries go from (as example) 1700 till 1799 --> 18th century. You can say what You want. on 1800 has begun the 19th century.
1800 is the 19th century goofy
1800 is the start of the 19th century. . .
1801 is the start of the 19th century
but it´s a common misconception
remember: ther is no year 0. Our calendar starts with year 1 and the first century goes from 1 to 100, second from 101 to 200 and so on
@@Shigeru0508, ah, yes, true.
1800 is the 18th century goofy
Can anyone translate to english?
From 00:45 onwards:
"This new device from Mr. Edison is indeed marvelous.
The Phonograph allows one who is resting already for a long time in his grave to raise his voice again to greet the present time."
This is all I can understand clearely and I'm German so it shows how bad the quality is.
The second part from around the half states the date and the city.
@@michaelstaengl1349 Asker olmasa edebiyatçı olabilirmiş
@@zubuk. And now the German language version please.
@@michaelstaengl1349 Wenn er kein Soldat wäre, könnte er Schriftsteller werden
@@zubuk. Thanks / Dankeschön
"IT'S ME"
Es ist schön das einer der GRÖßTEN DEUTSCHEN noch seine Stimme uns geben konnte. LANG LEBE DAS DEUTSCHE KAISERREICH. LANG LEBE BISMARCK, MOLTKE,KAISER WILHELM I, KAISER WILHELM II.
I doubt he really appreciated the truth of what he said there.
Here is the restorated ua-cam.com/video/bAykXihBR4I/v-deo.html
Danke!
@@JohnXina54 bitte
neueste HD Technik anwenden und aus dem Gekrächze hörbare Stimme machen...und: Kreisau in Schlesien, nicht reisau....heute heißt es wohl so was wie krayzcywczcz .....Gott sei Dank wissen das weder Bismarck noch Moltke (nicht Molkte)
Das habe ich mir auch schon überlegt. Mit neuester Technik müsste es ja eigentlich möglich sein das Rauschen zu beseitigen und die Stimme hörbar zu machen
Helmuth von Moltke ist im Jahr 1800 geboren. Also nicht im 18. sondern im ersten Jahr des 19. Jahrhunderts! de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_Karl_Bernhard_von_Moltke
Das jahr 1800 gehört aber noch zum 18. Jahrhundert. Das 19. Jahrhundert ging erst am 01.01. 1801 los.
Gilt das auch für das 21. Jahrhundert?
@@philippschulz6644 wobei ich die Logik dahinter nicht verstehe. Das Jahr 0 wäre das erste Jahr nach Christi Geburt. Es sollte sich somit im ersten Jahrhundert nach Christi Geburt befinden. Somit sollte doch auch 1800 zum 19. Jahrhundert gehören. (Ich weiß, formell ist das nicht korrekt, aber wie gesagt, ich verstehe die Logik dahinter nicht).
@@ragnarokgzlr8522 Jesus ist ja im Jahre 0 geboren. Das erste Jahrhundert nach Christus ging dann quasi erst im jahre 1 nach Christus los.
@@jonasboecherer3493 ja
Recorded in the 18th Century, not the 17th . 😈
Yes , I beg your pardon Bigquiff , my mistake .
+Lloyd Kennedy Learn to Read
+JimmyBean456 So according to you 2015 would be the 16th year of this century? According to everyone else, it is the 15th year, and 2000 was the last year of the 20th century.
+Lloyd Kennedy Notice you don't have a single thumb up. The only one who thinks you're smart is you.
Put it this way. When did the FIRST century start? Exactly.
can anybody tell me what he was talking about?