@@warwolf88, Instead, he has a vibranium suit. Not even Tony has that excuse for being able to not be injured by hitting anything or even moving to fast. Either way, the real issue is their characterization of Sam in his new Captain America era has been pitiful with the lack of nuance in the political messaging it uses as a central focus.
The mantle honestly should have died with Steve, and Walker being set up as the next Captain America should have revolved around why the government shouldn't try to resurrect a mantle that they can't "modernize", only pervert with their moral bankruptcy. Bucky's already dealing with his own issues and Steve wasn't about to add to it by having Bucky carry his mantle.
@@MKVlogs-oo7tw, It's not that Sam (in theory, with good nuanced writing) wouldn't work as Captain America, it's that the journey to get Sam to this point of being Captain America is built on political messaging without nuance and little else. In his current form, Bucky also doesn't work as a Captain America replacement due to his story being about processing years of tragedy, and he's now perfectly been set up as a leader figure of a group of anti-heroes like himself, helping them as Steve once helped him. That's why the mantle was better left with Steve, because leaving it behind is better than making poor stories with it later that fail at being entertaining.
Ah yes, the first Captain America film not starring Captain America. Just like how we had two Spider-Man movies that only guest-starred Spider-Man. And we had a Black Panther movie without Black Panther. And a Loki show without the real Loki. I'm sensing a pattern here.
Spiderman having varients is a thing for decades of comics Black panther is a title shared through generations and multiple people , its said in the first movie and comcis Loki literally had the variant of the same character that appeared in previous moviea and same actor What do you mean by real loki You aint sensing a pattern, you are reaching for a pattern
@@MKVlogs-oo7twHe doesn't mean Spider-Man No way Home. He means the Sony's Spider-Man adjacent movies There were at least two perfectly comic accurate replacements for the character of T'Challa and they still went with the chick who only lasted 12 issues as Black Panther. The version of Loki we saw in the show was an emasculated, Party-approved version of Loki You can see these patterns as well, it's just that you think they're awesome hence why you're defending them
@@Halfort57 he and i both was refering to spiderverse, who are the other black panther replacments Could you define how loki was emasculated, is it casued he showed emotions or fell in love
@@MKVlogs-oo7tw i think they mean removed core character traits and replaced it with a normal, average, perhaps even below average ( in terms of temperament and testosterone (on screen)) human being. These are supposed to be extraordinary men, legendary. instead they are... calm and relatively average in behavior and temperament.
In Endgame, I actually thought that Falcon was going to GIVE the Captain America shield to someone else, that he will mentor and perfect, with the Winter Soldier's help. But nope, they were going for replacements.😂
I remember back in 2022 when the leak grifters were trying to hype up this movie and making it look like a mess. It was a Hulk movie. Then, an X-Men movie. And finally, an Avengers movie. It was anything but a Captain America movie. You could argue that Civil War was Avengers 2.5 what with Iron Man, Ant-Man, Black Panther and Spider-Man turning up. But despite the crossover, it was still Steve's movie. It was a story about him protecting Bucky, his best friend, and only link to the past he has left, from the world. He didn’t care who stood in his way, whether it was the law, his friends, or the government. Brave New World, on the other hand? It feels like Disney knows that Sam has been rejected as Cap, so they're shoehorning everyone in for the sake of fanservice.
None of leaks were true and the grifters who used it used to degrade the movie, saying they replaced the hulk with black cap for diversity They aint shoehorning everyone Red hulk, a hulk foe has multiple times fought other heros in comics, and leader is in so rose can get his hulk serum Its a normal story where the villan uses a another bad guy and hero stops both of them
More like your kid sister busting off the limbs of all your expensive decorative anime statues, trying to use them like action figures. And then painting all their skin brown (especially if they're ginger... wtf is up with that??)
The Fantastic Four WOULD have been a great way to get fans excited for the future of the MCU, and then they cast Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards for no reason beyond wanting to maintain his "buzz" ahead of the Mandalorian movie. As long as the MCU remains driven by the Disney Marketing Department it has zero chance of recovery.
They killed any goodwill by killing off a fan favorite Reed Richard (John Krasinski) in "Doctor Strange is a side character in the Multiverse of Wanda Madness".
@@Hans_Unique_Handle the actor wasnt interested in long term contract, he had been working on the new quiet place universe He did cameo and went back What was the studio supposed to do
The issue for me is that even if it’s okay/passable/fun, all these years of extra reshoots means it’s not gonna make back HALF of its now bloated budget. And all because they had to virtue signal or make a lecture movie instead of something FUN. I’ve heard that the reshoots were mainly because they were being heavy handed with “the message” and probably stuff involving the ‘dreaded orange man’.
The problem is I don't trust Marvel/Disney doing the fantastic 4 either. Red hulk gives Banner a massive problem in fights so thinking that Rogers or Falcon could take him on shows to me how stupid Disney/Marvel is.
Dick Grayson started as Batman's sidekick Robin, but eventually made a name for himself as Nightwing, and led his own superhero team Titans. (tho he became Batman too at one point but that didn't last long) I believe Sam Wilson could've followd the same character progression. Like Nightwing, he has no powers, only relies on his training and some tech, and just wanna save people. He deserves his own legacy.
This topic is important to me partly cause I have watched Sam Wilson/The Falcon since I was 4 years old while 'Avengers: United They Stand' aired. Still have the Falcon toy my parents surprised me and my brother (5 or 6 at the time) with (alongside Hawkeye, Tigra, Wonder Man, The Vision). And I'm an Afro (black) Marvel geeeeek. I have a new Falcon Marvel Legend and refused to get "The American Falcon" figure. I still have a tweet up anticipating Falcon's MCU debut before Anthony Mackie was cast. His Sam Wilson being a New Orleanian (like the actor) even made him feel more close to me, a born/raised New Orleanian. Gene Colan, who worked with Stan Lee on creating Samuel Thomas Wilson aka The Falcon, spoke on making him with the civil rights movement in mind. But not simply as Sam Wilson, but an Afro-descent American hero who's hero title was made for him as *THE* Falcon, a bird who is a symbol of freedom on Sam, a character who expressed hating feeling like a token. Even as a Captain America, the most important part of that is *THE* Falcon. Even handing the Falcon down as a title for Latin superhero representation ends up being a missed opportunity for a new addition to few original Marvel heroes made for Latin rep, nobody is The Condor, that would have worked. We should not have to explain how incredibly important this is to the diversity matters (until diversity is authentic) crowd/modern Marvel Comics/Studios. Plus, I'm not into mantles from self-made non-bloodline characters anyways. It avoids additional creativity. All this is a reason why, even if The American Falcon is done in a cool way, nobody but Steve will be my Captain America (I also reject Bucky America), so this movie will only interest me with what they do with any female villain, maybe from the Serpent Society as I am ready for way more women dedicated to villainy to be adapted and still dedicated. And, as we see, a *real* Captain America calls terrorists what they are. *TERRORISTS!*
Yet when it comes down to giving us black folks original black characters they have massive production problems. Blade (who saved Marvel from bankruptcy) can't get a script off the ground.
The biggest mistake Marvel Studios has made is not taking a break after Endgame. Its very name clearly hints that this should have been the end. I love to see where the story and its world would go in the aftermath. But after a major movie event such as Endgame, the studio should have taken a pause (5 or so years) to plan their next big saga. Right now, with all the shows and movies being released each year, a sense of fatigue and annoyance has set in with the audience.
The fact they randomly casted Ford as Ross and made him Hulk up in a non Hulk movie already has me uninterested. Marvel already made that hero into a joke, now they want to harvest ideas from his storyline for characters who don’t warrant it
Steve Rogers has always been and will always be Cap. I’m not in the slightest interested in a Captain America movie, without Captain America. Marvel, you suck.
I am constantly baffled by the decision to use material from the comics that tanked Marvel's publishing operations and created intense rejection in the fanbase because it was created by self-righteous hacks. There is no way BNW does not tank.
Failing on test screenings even after reshoots, that's a massive red flag. If that's the case, it could go down as the worst Captain America movie in the Captain America quadrilogy.
I liked Sam Wilson as a character better, before they had him project his own insecurities about race onto the audience. The MCU Cap is not really established to be the torchbearer of America (or whatever) anyway. Starting out as a cheesy propaganda tool and then doing much of his serious work uncelebrated, out of the public eye. Even the US government’s preferred replacement is a publicity stunt and not chosen with regard for popularity. But in universe it is not even remotely established that there is significant racist sentiment or why he should consider giving in to whatever minority does feel that way. And yet we still get to see him moping around about it for the duration of a TV series, including featuring it heavily in his “do better” speech.
Making Sam Wilson the new Captain America is a perfect example of wearisome, depressing, anti-fun modern politics ruining entertainment. From what I've seen in the trailers, there is nothing Sam Wilson does as 'Captain America' that he couldn't or wouldn't have done by being "The Falcon, now equipped with a legendary shield". The identity switch from Falcon to Captain America, while pointless, might still have been entertaining if they simply let him carry on embodying the the values that Steve Rogers embodied, but they couldn't do that. Instead of fighting the universal enemies of liberty, free speech and autonomy, Captain America now fights Systemic Racism, White Supremacy, Misogyny, and Toxic Masculinity..
3:02, What's really interesting is comparing this film to the upcoming Thunderbolts, how while the latter does still have a sense of dull humor and an uninventive story, it is focusing on plot and characters that people can be interested in even on a casual viewing.....and two of those characters were in Falcon And The Winter Soldier, only now Bucky and Walker are removed from the excessive political commentary side of Marvel and are being put in a regular story that is just about the adventures these misfit characters are going on, along with other anti-heroes and anti-villains.
Am actually quite interested in Thunderbolts. To me the characters have less (no) baggage from previous movies and the banter feels more fun because it's contrasted by serious scenes. Sure still only based on the trailer, but it's been the first Marvel Universe project (excluding Deadpool) that I am interested in in watching since Endgame.
@ Same here, for the same reason, the less baggage especially. At this point, besides Fantastic Four and, maybe, Daredevil: Born Again (one for its radically different setting compared to other MCU movies and the other for continuing an era of Marvel Studios that was very good....if they don't somehow ruin it), it seems to be the more interesting project coming out for a long time out of Marvel Studios.
And this is probably why Thunderbolts will do better than Brave New World because it's a fun superhero movie not some political agenda pushing movie like Brave New World. I still can't get over the fact that Sam was defending the terrorists and now he's our new Cap 😭
When the box checking began to take front and center in the mcu, my interests turned elsewhere. I did however go to the theater for Deadpool 3. Apart from that, I have no confidence left in Disney Marvel. With most entertainment in my preferred genres being filled with messaging, I've found anime to be a suitable alternative for escapism. That and rewatching older titles. The excitement and anticipation for new comic adaptations has long gone.
Call me racist, but I am so terribly sick and tired of Hollywood, Netflix, and Disney race-swapping characters. I WILL NOT WATCH A BLACK CAPTAIN AMERICA. NOPE!
Yet when it comes down to giving us black folks original black characters they have massive production problems. Blade (who saved Marvel from bankruptcy) can't get a script off the ground.
@@FriendlyBatDoom I agree. I would love to see some original black heroes. Storm movie would be cool or John Stewart, or War Machine. I would also like to see a Spawn remake. There are lots of terrific black superheroes.
It really is the Director Julius Onah for me. If they hired somebody who is an already well known or decently known action/political thriller director, someone who has a craft in those genres, then I would be much more excited. But the director is some no name with only one noteworthy film to his resume. Like, who actually are you and why did Marvel hire you?
Why worry? It can't be good. 🤷♂️ In the novel "Brave New World," the dystopia had been defeated and people were stepping out into the brave new world. Marvel and Disney are still stuck in the dystopia.
I stopped caring about Marvel movies outside of getting to work on them in Avengers: Infinity Budget. I haven't even gotten around to seeing Endgame yet. Doing VFX work on one would be a great experience though; those artists do some seriously intense work, though of course they end up having to re-do all of it after the finish it, which causes Marvel CG to look cheap.
I hate to be that guy but in the comics: sam became cap 10 years ago! Its not a new concept. He is a great captain America. But in the mcu they haven't handled him properly
exactly! I don't mind the fact that Sam is the new cap and all. I'm just mad about how the MCU handled him. And the fact that BNW is failing on test screenings even after numerous reshoots is a massive red flag.
I’ve been out since Infinity War and I haven’t even bothered to check on how long ago THAT was. I’ll just be waiting for the analysts, reviews etc like I’ve been doing the last few years.
Let it sinks in that Giancarlo Esposito's was added in reshoots, yet he's in EVERY SINGLE TAILERS as if he's the main villain How do you finish filming a movie, then add a new main villain into the movie? How can the story still be coherent?
im happy thay are finally releasing this movie ..... because with all the reshutes i think thay have bean holding the thunderbolts back. like a bandage get it over and dun with so we can enjoy thunderbolts.
I’m gonna straight up say Fantastic 4 should’ve been the start of Phase 4. First movie after Spider-Man Far From Home. There was no reason to fart around with characters that either had decent conclusions already or didn’t have the following to get people in seats.
The whole idea of Falcon as a character was that he was just a man. A man that had to do a lot to keep up with the superheroes and not be injured or die. Now that ruined that premise.
@MKVlogs-oo7tw this can't have happened though because at the time he went back the TVA was not allowing branched timelines they were pruning them. We even saw in the Loki series that there was only ONE timeline until the end of season 1.
@KristySki loki series takes place outside time,so loki show is not happening after or before endgame So the entire MCU universes beginning (not iron man, the beginning of universe )and end of universe could techinally be happeneing parallel to loki We see loki visit the past history, and have seen the TVA travel to way before in time So we cant pin point the time when loki because the ruler of TVA
Sam Wilson/Falcon, Bucky Barnes/Winter Solider/White Wolf & John Walker/U.S. Agent all became Captain America in the comics after Steve Rogers grew old. Passing the mantle thing is very normal in the comics. It happened in DC just like in the Marvel. But Sam Wilson in the MCU is way too political. Also people like Bucky more than Sam instead. Sadly Bucky was a war criminal in the MCU.
I'm choosing option 'c' Nerdword: I don't give a damn about this failure of a movie. As the distance widens between Falcon & The Winter Solider, the more it sours for me. I do agree with you, Falcon was a character I liked...but Capt. Falcon not nearly as much. I'm wondering if Marvel (and Disney) have already "washed their hands" of this and other products that were injected with the flawed DEI/ESG ideology. I believe 2025 is going to be a very rough year for the House of Mouse. Now the question isn't IF this movie will fail, it HOW BADLY will it fail. Yes, they deserve it...100% 🙂
Disney really hoping Black people are going to save them and turn out like they did for the first Black Panther. Nope. Folks see the ruse Disney 🙄 9:08 I agree, they should have recast
Why would you be nervous? They've given no indication that it wont be garbage, and in context of the last couple years of marvel theyve bee gatbage, so you know it's going to be garbage. I dont understand why that makes you or anyone besides the silly weirdos that greenlit and invested in this movie.
I think the only reason we really liked Sam Wilson, is because of Anthony Mackie's charisma. The Sam Wilson on the page is kinda bland. And he doesn't work as Captain America. Bucky as Cap would've been _MUCH_ more interesting.
Bucky was not poised to be captain America that is an insane statement i re watch MCU films Sam was Steve's right/left hand man in present day almost like he was being trained by Steve. In Civil wars opening 15 minutes Sam Wilson's name was called for help by every avenger and he took out like 10 guys but it wasn't a problem than was it. When Peggy died who was sitting beside Steve, when he went on the run who did he meet with first so the seeds were not planted where YOU think they where so the hate is kinda obvious. Sam always had Steve's left don't try to flip it for your narrative....Sam has proven to be the most TRUSTED person with the shield regardless of the serum...bucky is 100000 percent compromised but I love his character to but him as cap make no sense sorry not sorry Americas #1 soldier shouldn't be going thru a parent killing assassin redemption arch is just crazy lol
Let;s see Marvel films I have watched since ENDGAME - No Way Home, Into Spiderverse films, DEADPOOL3. Marvel properties that I have HATE-WATCHED since ENDGAME via UA-cam critics - everything on Disney+ and basically all of Phase 4. Favreau was the first Marvel architect, followed by Whedon, followed by the Russo's, and no replacement for them ever announced. There is no grand plan tying everything together, just "consume product, then get excited for next product." If you knew what to look for you knew not to bother. Captain African-American is a product of that lack of direction where THE MESSAGE is the whole point and you're supposed to clap and cheer, except that their message is terrible anti-human post-modernist drivel that can only have been produced by people whose idea of hardship was living off of ramen noodles in college. Anthony Mackie is kind stuck, roped into something that I'm sure that he really wanted to do at first until the script arrived and he realized they were gonna to end his career with an epic flop. After this film fails to make back it's budget he'l never get another role as a leading-man again.
I've got no interest in this movie. I watched the series cuz I really like Mackie and Stan. But it was TERRIBLE , with the exception of USAgent. It was like Stan and Mackie had signed a contract for it 10 years ago, and had to fulfill it. The Falcon is NOT Captain America. Bucky could do it, but he's not really Cap either. Cap isn't the Shield and the suit. He's an ideal that Steve Rogers holds. And the Red Hulk hasn't been set up enough...and the Red Hulk is Harrison Ford? I love Harrison Ford movies, but he's his own genre. Nope. I have no interest.
Hello, because of the trailer, I think that this movie is the "black" version "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" with "they have done the black man wrong" message......... Who want to watch this kind of movie? This movie will flop hard.
i'm not interested in anthony mackie as captain america, and a lot of it has to do with the writing and "message" behind the impetus for him becoming captain america. it's super racially charged, as evidenced by the unbelievably cringy and badly written falcon and winter soldier tv show. reports say the new captain america movie is in the same vein. simply put, i have zero interest.
I'm not even a comic buff and even I know that the Falcon to Captain America evolution is directly from the comic books. Just giving some insight for people who think this is a diversity push etc.
Have Elon Musk buy Marvel and demand all original actors reprise their roles... Except Roffilo /politics, And keep Black Panther dead, 🐶 Whistle And a mire comic accurate Nick Fury..
Good thing he's not captain america then, he's just the falcon. Sam wasn't given the shield because he'd make *a* captain america, he was given it because he was black and after Endgame Feige went all in on DEI. He is not steve, he isn't 1/10th as charasmatic, good, strong, helpful, strong willed or anything else that makes up Steve Rogers. He wouldn't be the guy to sacrifice himself over a grenade. He would AND DOES compromise on his values, as shown in the shitty tv show where he literally sides with terrorists, a choice Steve WOULD NEVER have made because of the lives they are destroying. He refuses to take the serum, therefore the fight against red hulk is done, he loses. He's an adult pretender in every sense of the word. He is not Captain America and never will be, he's just a joke
the name of the movie with that weird political stunt all the marvel actors did during the election with those early reviews is enough for me to avoid this.
Disney hates traditional relationships. It was refreshing to see all that Lois & Clark action in the Superman trailer.
can we talk about how captain falcon went fast enough to create a sonic boom and didnt die😂
As a regular ass dude no less
@ironboy3245 I would understand if he had a ironman style suit
@@warwolf88or the super soldier serum that he turned down for some fucking reason
@@warwolf88 I guess he does now. That is obviously a new suit with nano-tech (just look at the helmet), courtesy of Wakanda.
@@warwolf88, Instead, he has a vibranium suit. Not even Tony has that excuse for being able to not be injured by hitting anything or even moving to fast.
Either way, the real issue is their characterization of Sam in his new Captain America era has been pitiful with the lack of nuance in the political messaging it uses as a central focus.
Bucky should have been the next Captain America!
Steve should have kept the America Shield.
Exactly! I don't care about "not race swapping", it's just that Bucky is interesting
The mantle honestly should have died with Steve, and Walker being set up as the next Captain America should have revolved around why the government shouldn't try to resurrect a mantle that they can't "modernize", only pervert with their moral bankruptcy.
Bucky's already dealing with his own issues and Steve wasn't about to add to it by having Bucky carry his mantle.
Why do support bucky as cap and not sam as cap
@@MKVlogs-oo7tw, It's not that Sam (in theory, with good nuanced writing) wouldn't work as Captain America, it's that the journey to get Sam to this point of being Captain America is built on political messaging without nuance and little else.
In his current form, Bucky also doesn't work as a Captain America replacement due to his story being about processing years of tragedy, and he's now perfectly been set up as a leader figure of a group of anti-heroes like himself, helping them as Steve once helped him.
That's why the mantle was better left with Steve, because leaving it behind is better than making poor stories with it later that fail at being entertaining.
Ah yes, the first Captain America film not starring Captain America.
Just like how we had two Spider-Man movies that only guest-starred Spider-Man.
And we had a Black Panther movie without Black Panther.
And a Loki show without the real Loki.
I'm sensing a pattern here.
Spiderman having varients is a thing for decades of comics
Black panther is a title shared through generations and multiple people , its said in the first movie and comcis
Loki literally had the variant of the same character that appeared in previous moviea and same actor
What do you mean by real loki
You aint sensing a pattern, you are reaching for a pattern
@@MKVlogs-oo7twHe doesn't mean Spider-Man No way Home. He means the Sony's Spider-Man adjacent movies
There were at least two perfectly comic accurate replacements for the character of T'Challa and they still went with the chick who only lasted 12 issues as Black Panther.
The version of Loki we saw in the show was an emasculated, Party-approved version of Loki
You can see these patterns as well, it's just that you think they're awesome hence why you're defending them
@@Halfort57 he and i both was refering to spiderverse, who are the other black panther replacments
Could you define how loki was emasculated, is it casued he showed emotions or fell in love
@@MKVlogs-oo7tw It's cause the entire show just punches down on the GOD OF MISCHIEF AND EVIL.
@@MKVlogs-oo7tw i think they mean removed core character traits and replaced it with a normal, average, perhaps even below average ( in terms of temperament and testosterone (on screen)) human being. These are supposed to be extraordinary men, legendary. instead they are... calm and relatively average in behavior and temperament.
I believe the only reason Falcon is the new Captain America is because he checks the diversity box.
Read the comics. Sam, Bucky &
John were all Captain America.
But the MCU versions is too political.
In Endgame, I actually thought that Falcon was going to GIVE the Captain America shield to someone else, that he will mentor and perfect, with the Winter Soldier's help. But nope, they were going for replacements.😂
I remember back in 2022 when the leak grifters were trying to hype up this movie and making it look like a mess. It was a Hulk movie. Then, an X-Men movie. And finally, an Avengers movie. It was anything but a Captain America movie.
You could argue that Civil War was Avengers 2.5 what with Iron Man, Ant-Man, Black Panther and Spider-Man turning up. But despite the crossover, it was still Steve's movie. It was a story about him protecting Bucky, his best friend, and only link to the past he has left, from the world. He didn’t care who stood in his way, whether it was the law, his friends, or the government.
Brave New World, on the other hand? It feels like Disney knows that Sam has been rejected as Cap, so they're shoehorning everyone in for the sake of fanservice.
None of leaks were true and the grifters who used it used to degrade the movie, saying they replaced the hulk with black cap for diversity
They aint shoehorning everyone
Red hulk, a hulk foe has multiple times fought other heros in comics, and leader is in so rose can get his hulk serum
Its a normal story where the villan uses a another bad guy and hero stops both of them
Marvel has become your sister playing with your action figures.
More like your kid sister busting off the limbs of all your expensive decorative anime statues, trying to use them like action figures. And then painting all their skin brown (especially if they're ginger... wtf is up with that??)
The Fantastic Four WOULD have been a great way to get fans excited for the future of the MCU, and then they cast Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards for no reason beyond wanting to maintain his "buzz" ahead of the Mandalorian movie. As long as the MCU remains driven by the Disney Marketing Department it has zero chance of recovery.
They killed any goodwill by killing off a fan favorite Reed Richard (John Krasinski) in "Doctor Strange is a side character in the Multiverse of Wanda Madness".
@@Hans_Unique_Handle the actor wasnt interested in long term contract, he had been working on the new quiet place universe
He did cameo and went back
What was the studio supposed to do
The issue for me is that even if it’s okay/passable/fun, all these years of extra reshoots means it’s not gonna make back HALF of its now bloated budget.
And all because they had to virtue signal or make a lecture movie instead of something FUN.
I’ve heard that the reshoots were mainly because they were being heavy handed with “the message” and probably stuff involving the ‘dreaded orange man’.
The problem is I don't trust Marvel/Disney doing the fantastic 4 either. Red hulk gives Banner a massive problem in fights so thinking that Rogers or Falcon could take him on shows to me how stupid Disney/Marvel is.
Dick Grayson started as Batman's sidekick Robin, but eventually made a name for himself as Nightwing, and led his own superhero team Titans. (tho he became Batman too at one point but that didn't last long)
I believe Sam Wilson could've followd the same character progression. Like Nightwing, he has no powers, only relies on his training and some tech, and just wanna save people. He deserves his own legacy.
This topic is important to me partly cause I have watched Sam Wilson/The Falcon since I was 4 years old while 'Avengers: United They Stand' aired. Still have the Falcon toy my parents surprised me and my brother (5 or 6 at the time) with (alongside Hawkeye, Tigra, Wonder Man, The Vision). And I'm an Afro (black) Marvel geeeeek. I have a new Falcon Marvel Legend and refused to get "The American Falcon" figure. I still have a tweet up anticipating Falcon's MCU debut before Anthony Mackie was cast. His Sam Wilson being a New Orleanian (like the actor) even made him feel more close to me, a born/raised New Orleanian.
Gene Colan, who worked with Stan Lee on creating Samuel Thomas Wilson aka The Falcon, spoke on making him with the civil rights movement in mind. But not simply as Sam Wilson, but an Afro-descent American hero who's hero title was made for him as *THE* Falcon, a bird who is a symbol of freedom on Sam, a character who expressed hating feeling like a token. Even as a Captain America, the most important part of that is *THE* Falcon. Even handing the Falcon down as a title for Latin superhero representation ends up being a missed opportunity for a new addition to few original Marvel heroes made for Latin rep, nobody is The Condor, that would have worked. We should not have to explain how incredibly important this is to the diversity matters (until diversity is authentic) crowd/modern Marvel Comics/Studios. Plus, I'm not into mantles from self-made non-bloodline characters anyways. It avoids additional creativity.
All this is a reason why, even if The American Falcon is done in a cool way, nobody but Steve will be my Captain America (I also reject Bucky America), so this movie will only interest me with what they do with any female villain, maybe from the Serpent Society as I am ready for way more women dedicated to villainy to be adapted and still dedicated. And, as we see, a *real* Captain America calls terrorists what they are. *TERRORISTS!*
This movie exists to completely deconstruct Captain America as The Rings of Power exists to deconstruct Tolkien. Use the Present to destroy the Past.
My money's on Red Hulk becoming Orange Hulk...
Yet when it comes down to giving us black folks original black characters they have massive production problems. Blade (who saved Marvel from bankruptcy) can't get a script off the ground.
The goodwill from the first Black Panther has run out for me. Not to mention how they’ve ruined Fury and Rhodey
The biggest mistake Marvel Studios has made is not taking a break after Endgame. Its very name clearly hints that this should have been the end. I love to see where the story and its world would go in the aftermath. But after a major movie event such as Endgame, the studio should have taken a pause (5 or so years) to plan their next big saga. Right now, with all the shows and movies being released each year, a sense of fatigue and annoyance has set in with the audience.
The fact they randomly casted Ford as Ross and made him Hulk up in a non Hulk movie already has me uninterested. Marvel already made that hero into a joke, now they want to harvest ideas from his storyline for characters who don’t warrant it
I have to sincerly ask, if Falcon is the new Captain America, then when did he get the Super Soldier Serum to even stand a chance agaonst Red Hulk?
Hello,
he has "Plot armor" which is much more powerful than any "super solider serum"............
Steve Rogers has always been and will always be Cap. I’m not in the slightest interested in a Captain America movie, without Captain America. Marvel, you suck.
For me personally, I simply don't like the idea of 'Captain America with wings'.
After 35 mcu movies I thinks its a cool change unless you wanna see what you saw last time
I'm not worried, in the way I wouldn't worry about someone dying who hates me. They won't be missed.
I am constantly baffled by the decision to use material from the comics that tanked Marvel's publishing operations and created intense rejection in the fanbase because it was created by self-righteous hacks.
There is no way BNW does not tank.
I would have given a Falcon movie a chance. There's no chance I will be seeing any of this outside of your reviews.
Sam really took that Episode 1 "I'll try spinning, thats a good trick." Seriously
Failing on test screenings even after reshoots, that's a massive red flag. If that's the case, it could go down as the worst Captain America movie in the Captain America quadrilogy.
I am not worried at all since the MCU ended with ENDGAME, everything after that has been SH*T
Shang Chi, Spiderman no way home, agatha all along... you really havent enjoyed anything after end game?
I'm excited for it to fail hard. A powerless captain America played by a side character, yippy
I liked Sam Wilson as a character better, before they had him project his own insecurities about race onto the audience.
The MCU Cap is not really established to be the torchbearer of America (or whatever) anyway. Starting out as a cheesy propaganda tool and then doing much of his serious work uncelebrated, out of the public eye. Even the US government’s preferred replacement is a publicity stunt and not chosen with regard for popularity.
But in universe it is not even remotely established that there is significant racist sentiment or why he should consider giving in to whatever minority does feel that way. And yet we still get to see him moping around about it for the duration of a TV series, including featuring it heavily in his “do better” speech.
Its gonna be bad moive in the comics bucky had the shield 1st before falcon buckys costume was cool,plus red hulk vs no powers cap piontless
And Captain Afro-American is WORRIED TOO because they are bringing Chris Evans back to Marvel!
They should have gone all the way with what story they wanted to tell and make red hulk into orange hulk....
Making Sam Wilson the new Captain America is a perfect example of wearisome, depressing, anti-fun modern politics ruining entertainment. From what I've seen in the trailers, there is nothing Sam Wilson does as 'Captain America' that he couldn't or wouldn't have done by being "The Falcon, now equipped with a legendary shield". The identity switch from Falcon to Captain America, while pointless, might still have been entertaining if they simply let him carry on embodying the the values that Steve Rogers embodied, but they couldn't do that. Instead of fighting the universal enemies of liberty, free speech and autonomy, Captain America now fights Systemic Racism, White Supremacy, Misogyny, and Toxic Masculinity..
3:02, What's really interesting is comparing this film to the upcoming Thunderbolts, how while the latter does still have a sense of dull humor and an uninventive story, it is focusing on plot and characters that people can be interested in even on a casual viewing.....and two of those characters were in Falcon And The Winter Soldier, only now Bucky and Walker are removed from the excessive political commentary side of Marvel and are being put in a regular story that is just about the adventures these misfit characters are going on, along with other anti-heroes and anti-villains.
Am actually quite interested in Thunderbolts. To me the characters have less (no) baggage from previous movies and the banter feels more fun because it's contrasted by serious scenes. Sure still only based on the trailer, but it's been the first Marvel Universe project (excluding Deadpool) that I am interested in in watching since Endgame.
@ Same here, for the same reason, the less baggage especially. At this point, besides Fantastic Four and, maybe, Daredevil: Born Again (one for its radically different setting compared to other MCU movies and the other for continuing an era of Marvel Studios that was very good....if they don't somehow ruin it), it seems to be the more interesting project coming out for a long time out of Marvel Studios.
And this is probably why Thunderbolts will do better than Brave New World because it's a fun superhero movie not some political agenda pushing movie like Brave New World.
I still can't get over the fact that Sam was defending the terrorists and now he's our new Cap 😭
I'm not worried at all
Worry is a feeling and I have none for this film...
When the box checking began to take front and center in the mcu, my interests turned elsewhere. I did however go to the theater for Deadpool 3. Apart from that, I have no confidence left in Disney Marvel. With most entertainment in my preferred genres being filled with messaging, I've found anime to be a suitable alternative for escapism. That and rewatching older titles. The excitement and anticipation for new comic adaptations has long gone.
Call me racist, but I am so terribly sick and tired of Hollywood, Netflix, and Disney race-swapping characters. I WILL NOT WATCH A BLACK CAPTAIN AMERICA. NOPE!
Yet when it comes down to giving us black folks original black characters they have massive production problems. Blade (who saved Marvel from bankruptcy) can't get a script off the ground.
@@FriendlyBatDoom I agree. I would love to see some original black heroes. Storm movie would be cool or John Stewart, or War Machine. I would also like to see a Spawn remake. There are lots of terrific black superheroes.
@@angrypatriot EXACTLY 💯 Spawn, Blade and Static Shock are just sitting there in limbo waiting for someone to care.
OK, I'll call you a racist, but I must follow that up by quoting Dom DeLuuse from Blazing Saddles: WROOOOOOONG!!!
@@MSgt5J071 lol yup!
It really is the Director Julius Onah for me. If they hired somebody who is an already well known or decently known action/political thriller director, someone who has a craft in those genres, then I would be much more excited. But the director is some no name with only one noteworthy film to his resume. Like, who actually are you and why did Marvel hire you?
Why worry? It can't be good. 🤷♂️
In the novel "Brave New World," the dystopia had been defeated and people were stepping out into the brave new world. Marvel and Disney are still stuck in the dystopia.
I stopped caring about Marvel movies outside of getting to work on them in Avengers: Infinity Budget.
I haven't even gotten around to seeing Endgame yet.
Doing VFX work on one would be a great experience though; those artists do some seriously intense work, though of course they end up having to re-do all of it after the finish it, which causes Marvel CG to look cheap.
I hate to be that guy but in the comics: sam became cap 10 years ago! Its not a new concept. He is a great captain America. But in the mcu they haven't handled him properly
exactly! I don't mind the fact that Sam is the new cap and all. I'm just mad about how the MCU handled him. And the fact that BNW is failing on test screenings even after numerous reshoots is a massive red flag.
I actually really like Sam as Cap, to me it feels like a good evolution of the character IF you're going to get rid of steve rogers.
Wait, when did Falcon get the super soldier serum?
I’ve been out since Infinity War and I haven’t even bothered to check on how long ago THAT was. I’ll just be waiting for the analysts, reviews etc like I’ve been doing the last few years.
Can we plz just call Sam “captain falcon” instead of captain America
Let it sinks in that Giancarlo Esposito's was added in reshoots, yet he's in EVERY SINGLE TAILERS as if he's the main villain
How do you finish filming a movie, then add a new main villain into the movie? How can the story still be coherent?
im happy thay are finally releasing this movie ..... because with all the reshutes i think thay have bean holding the thunderbolts back.
like a bandage get it over and dun with so we can enjoy thunderbolts.
More like Captain America: DEI, or Captain America: DOA…
Why isn’t the love interest black?
I’m gonna straight up say Fantastic 4 should’ve been the start of Phase 4. First movie after Spider-Man Far From Home. There was no reason to fart around with characters that either had decent conclusions already or didn’t have the following to get people in seats.
it's sad to see that an actor like Harrison Ford has to work at the age of 82 to survice. better than collecting bottles in the slums of LA, i guess.
He has a net worth of 300 million, he's not desperate for money. The man just loves to work.
I'm not watching it
The whole idea of Falcon as a character was that he was just a man. A man that had to do a lot to keep up with the superheroes and not be injured or die. Now that ruined that premise.
I am not worried about this movie, because I literally don't carw about it. I am not interested in it at all and will not see it
Since Peggy eventually married and raised a family with someone else, did Steve erase them from existence by staying with Carter?
Pretty sure that someone was actually Steve, people have been speculating on it for years at this point
@@dougsmith6262 nah timeline is spilt cap -peggy became a new timeline branched from main timeline
@MKVlogs-oo7tw this can't have happened though because at the time he went back the TVA was not allowing branched timelines they were pruning them. We even saw in the Loki series that there was only ONE timeline until the end of season 1.
@KristySki loki series takes place outside time,so loki show is not happening after or before endgame
So the entire MCU universes beginning (not iron man, the beginning of universe )and end of universe could techinally be happeneing parallel to loki
We see loki visit the past history, and have seen the TVA travel to way before in time
So we cant pin point the time when loki because the ruler of TVA
Only MCU film on the Horizon i have any interest in is Thunderbolts and I'm not exactly jumping for that either.
Im not worried, i know it's going to be hot garbage. Thunderbolts looks like it could be ok.
Sam Wilson/Falcon, Bucky
Barnes/Winter Solider/White
Wolf & John Walker/U.S. Agent
all became Captain America in
the comics after Steve Rogers grew old.
Passing the mantle thing is
very normal in the comics.
It happened in DC
just like in the Marvel.
But Sam Wilson in the
MCU is way too political.
Also people like Bucky more
than Sam instead. Sadly Bucky
was a war criminal in the MCU.
Once again, I'm in the minority here. What's changed since the tv program dropped? Is there a road map for the next Avengers movie?
The Cgi in this movie is Awful how are people praising this.
they're bots
I'm choosing option 'c' Nerdword: I don't give a damn about this failure of a movie. As the distance widens between Falcon & The Winter Solider, the more it sours for me. I do agree with you, Falcon was a character I liked...but Capt. Falcon not nearly as much. I'm wondering if Marvel (and Disney) have already "washed their hands" of this and other products that were injected with the flawed DEI/ESG ideology.
I believe 2025 is going to be a very rough year for the House of Mouse. Now the question isn't IF this movie will fail, it HOW BADLY will it fail. Yes, they deserve it...100% 🙂
it kinda worked in the comics but that's a different universe. I HOPE it's somehow good but I've lost faith in marvel
Disney really hoping Black people are going to save them and turn out like they did for the first Black Panther. Nope. Folks see the ruse Disney 🙄
9:08 I agree, they should have recast
C) "Not care less at all."
Why would you be nervous? They've given no indication that it wont be garbage, and in context of the last couple years of marvel theyve bee gatbage, so you know it's going to be garbage. I dont understand why that makes you or anyone besides the silly weirdos that greenlit and invested in this movie.
I think the only reason we really liked Sam Wilson, is because of Anthony Mackie's charisma. The Sam Wilson on the page is kinda bland. And he doesn't work as Captain America. Bucky as Cap would've been _MUCH_ more interesting.
Pedro is overrated …
Bucky was not poised to be captain America that is an insane statement i re watch MCU films Sam was Steve's right/left hand man in present day almost like he was being trained by Steve. In Civil wars opening 15 minutes Sam Wilson's name was called for help by every avenger and he took out like 10 guys but it wasn't a problem than was it. When Peggy died who was sitting beside Steve, when he went on the run who did he meet with first so the seeds were not planted where YOU think they where so the hate is kinda obvious. Sam always had Steve's left don't try to flip it for your narrative....Sam has proven to be the most TRUSTED person with the shield regardless of the serum...bucky is 100000 percent compromised but I love his character to but him as cap make no sense sorry not sorry Americas #1 soldier shouldn't be going thru a parent killing assassin redemption arch is just crazy lol
No need to worry, it's gonna fail miserably. Not a chance on success. Don't give these people your time and money😒
_Disney_ owns _Marvel,_ correct?
*PASS.*
i’m personally not gonna see it, i’m done with Marvel
Is Ross just going to be a Trump parody?
I have zero interest in seeing this movie.
😮
It's for toddlers
This is probably going to flop
Let;s see Marvel films I have watched since ENDGAME - No Way Home, Into Spiderverse films, DEADPOOL3. Marvel properties that I have HATE-WATCHED since ENDGAME via UA-cam critics - everything on Disney+ and basically all of Phase 4. Favreau was the first Marvel architect, followed by Whedon, followed by the Russo's, and no replacement for them ever announced. There is no grand plan tying everything together, just "consume product, then get excited for next product." If you knew what to look for you knew not to bother.
Captain African-American is a product of that lack of direction where THE MESSAGE is the whole point and you're supposed to clap and cheer, except that their message is terrible anti-human post-modernist drivel that can only have been produced by people whose idea of hardship was living off of ramen noodles in college. Anthony Mackie is kind stuck, roped into something that I'm sure that he really wanted to do at first until the script arrived and he realized they were gonna to end his career with an epic flop. After this film fails to make back it's budget he'l never get another role as a leading-man again.
I've got no interest in this movie. I watched the series cuz I really like Mackie and Stan. But it was TERRIBLE , with the exception of USAgent. It was like Stan and Mackie had signed a contract for it 10 years ago, and had to fulfill it. The Falcon is NOT Captain America. Bucky could do it, but he's not really Cap either. Cap isn't the Shield and the suit. He's an ideal that Steve Rogers holds. And the Red Hulk hasn't been set up enough...and the Red Hulk is Harrison Ford? I love Harrison Ford movies, but he's his own genre. Nope. I have no interest.
Hello,
because of the trailer, I think that this movie is the "black" version "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" with "they have done the black man wrong" message.........
Who want to watch this kind of movie?
This movie will flop hard.
I super duper can’t care about this movie. I like Sam a lot as a character but this is unnecessary and unwanted
i'm not interested in anthony mackie as captain america, and a lot of it has to do with the writing and "message" behind the impetus for him becoming captain america. it's super racially charged, as evidenced by the unbelievably cringy and badly written falcon and winter soldier tv show. reports say the new captain america movie is in the same vein. simply put, i have zero interest.
Anthony Mack is not a big enough star. He ruin Altered Carbon 2. He is a co star not a headliner.
Have to say Disney as a whole is pretty much dead. Went from a cinematic powerhouse to….. crap. lol
I'm not even a comic buff and even I know that the Falcon to Captain America evolution is directly from the comic books. Just giving some insight for people who think this is a diversity push etc.
Why can't it be both?
It was a diversity push in the comics, it's a diversity push here.
No one liked it in the comics, and no one likes it here.
Have Elon Musk buy Marvel and demand all original actors reprise their roles...
Except Roffilo /politics,
And keep Black Panther dead,
🐶 Whistle
And a mire comic accurate Nick Fury..
Good thing he's not captain america then, he's just the falcon. Sam wasn't given the shield because he'd make *a* captain america, he was given it because he was black and after Endgame Feige went all in on DEI. He is not steve, he isn't 1/10th as charasmatic, good, strong, helpful, strong willed or anything else that makes up Steve Rogers. He wouldn't be the guy to sacrifice himself over a grenade. He would AND DOES compromise on his values, as shown in the shitty tv show where he literally sides with terrorists, a choice Steve WOULD NEVER have made because of the lives they are destroying.
He refuses to take the serum, therefore the fight against red hulk is done, he loses. He's an adult pretender in every sense of the word. He is not Captain America and never will be, he's just a joke
@@TheNightman. He became cap in comics years prior
what are you worried for? you knew from the start the movie is garbage. same Disney slop
the name of the movie with that weird political stunt all the marvel actors did during the election with those early reviews is enough for me to avoid this.
Who cares...? -1
Hes just a regular human, he cannot even attempt these physical feats
What's really stupid, if you tell someone they are a diversity hire, they get mad at YOU and not the person who saw them just for their color.
I am not going to see it
Captain African American