I love mine. It’s a 2018. I think the bike is an overall great trail bike. It’s fast on xc but when you throw small to medium chunk it handles it great. The new one with longer travel would be a great choice
Aside from the NX mix up, this was an extremely great review of the new Tracer paired with the Ohlins I've been considering on for mostly bike park. I really like how Mike seems non bias and can quickly point out interesting details and characteristics of bikes and components. The Intense factory is a few miles away from me and sometimes I'll drive by and see if they have anything interesting going on. (they always do!).
I may have missed it, but a review of the control tires would be awesome to complement these bike reviews--especially as they're fairly newly released to market 👍🏼
I just own a Tracer 279 expert, coming from a 2018 Jeffsy, it's a big improvement everywhere exept climbing on road. This bike has a wonderful grip, but for now i feel the same about the progressiveness that seems set very far, i am still in "setting" but that second part of rear stroke is hard to apprehend! High geo is ok for my usual riding and enduro races planned, i'll consider the Low for Bike park ridind or Méga style races, lowered the BB by 7mm in technical, natural and tight stuffs, no thanks! Chad box location or opener suits me but big con is it has a tight point at beginning, don't expect to fill in a pump, and i have to find a way to mute the tools rattling into the frame despite the neoprene pocket. Very cool bike, i can't wait the first race🤘🔥🔥
had to rewatch this one, really been thinking of trying this bike, i want the all rounder bike i can pedal and be playful with. have had a few intense bikes and the Uzzi was my all time favorite bike ever.
I think intense gets a little too much criticism for their geometry choices. I agree they may lag the trend a little but i feel thats good because the trends always tend to push too far too fast. I have been saddled up on a custom carbine w DVO for the last two seasons and compared to all the other bikes I’ve tested, the intense suits me best. Not to mention their customer service is second to none (except maybe evil).
This is my take on my Primer. Long and slack is fine for park riding, but in the woods when it gets twisty, they just don't handle as well as a shorter, steeper bike.
@@RyanRapetti I had the opposite view on the primer. I felt like it was a great trail bike that could manage some enduros but certainly would be a handful at a bike park with only 140 rear travel.
In general, I think there's too much music during the talking in these. The moment @18:19 that Nick mentioned is especially bad, but overall the music is distracting from the conversation and I'd rather it be left with riding clips when there's no talking or eliminated entirely.
I totally thought this was an e-bike for a couple of minutes! Speaking of that, saw an old guy at the trail today with a huge intense e bike with a triple crown ohlins fork and coil! Bike was worth way more than the truck!!🤣
The sag is right but we didn’t use the full suspension, and it feels rough and you need to hang on. Come on, why are you lads going off recommend sag settings, sounds like you needed to go down a spring?
Hm, I wonder why spring rate wasn’t a point in the review. It sounds like a wrong choosen spring could be responsible for some of the „issues“ mentioned like feeling steep and not using all travel.
Well I’m the video Matt said that the sag on the shock was spot on and he still had problems with the shock it would be interesting to see how this bike would handle with an air shock if it makes it better then with the coil
As a rider who rides a intense m29 which is not the same bike but same idea of how it works, it is a very very progressive bike which makes it super supple at the small bumps but it ramps up very stiff very quickly wich makes it really hard to achieve the full travel
@@carterpnw7862 well you could ride a different spring rate and still get desired sag by preload and maybe adjust compression damping to fine tune the support of the, supposedly lighter, spring.
@@b-boysadventures2628 in that case it should be good for the big hits and less worry of bottom out. I have the 18 to 21 MY Tracer and I find it's absolutely horrible to pedal but descends like it's on rails. It's not supple in roots or chattered washboard bumps but maybe that's an air shock thing. The Uzzi is still a top bike and I have my 2016 still
Hi holy riders from pink bike, I actually own an Intene tracer from 2016, I love it and I’m figuring to race in Enduro amateur in Quebec next year. I’m actually figuring to buy a Orbea Rallon for my next ride, wich seems to be such a beast of an enduro racer. Jommdonyon compare the new tracer to a rallon? I’m actually impressed by my Tracer’s ability’s, when it comes to enduro race it seems that the Rallon is such a surgical weapon but as I figure in your latest review the new Tracer seem’s to be a great contendant. Hiw do you compare borh bikes?!? I’m looking to do amateur racing and have a get a lot of fun during our shorts summer here in Quebec… Thank’s for answering!!!
It has GX/X01 if you look closely, I believe they just misspoke....though it does seem to have NX on the "cheaper" build which makes no sense at that price
I was really looking forward to this field test, BUT, after the first 3 bike reviews with Mike and Alicia as test riders, you swap out Alicia with Matt! Seriously! How can you do a comparison when you just changed 1/2 of the evaluators? And one last comment, when the riders are talking about the “shorter” bikes in the comparison, if you remove the Commencal Meta SX (it is notably longer than all the other bikes) the last six bikes only vary 8.8mm that’s 3/8 of a inch, is that really enough to make a noticeable difference in cornering? Wouldn’t a great bike comparison be if they got on a bike, without knowing any of its specs, and just rode it and evaluated it. Maybe it’s just me, but I get the feeling they look at the bike specs and say “oh this bike is the longest one, it’s going to be so stable, and this shorter one turns so good” when in reality there is only 4.5mm between the two bikes. Maybe what I would like, is a comparison where the bikes are all covered, you can’t see the brand and they ride them and rate them, and then reveal the specs, but I suppose until then I will take whatever reviews I can get, and Pinkbike, I do appreciate your reviews and look forward to them and all the riders opinions no matter who they are, thanks for doing them.
That's a lot of words to sort through, but here goes. All three of us (Mike, Matt, Alicia) rode all of the bikes. Two of us talk about each bike in these videos to make things easier - after all, the table's only so big (Levy takes up a lot of room). As far as looking at geo charts and specs, we typically don't do that until after we ride the bikes, that way when we're riding them we don't have preconceived notions in our heads.
@@pinkbike Ahhhhhhh, thanks for clearing that up, that makes sense, and is good to hear, with that, I will say thank you and keep up the good work, I do always look forward to your reviews, they are both informative and helpful, thanks for the response also :-)
Classic example of why you should pick a spring based on the frequency of the system, not from sag. Plus there is that giant bottom out bumper; sounds like Intense did a poor job with choosing this shock.
I have XT on Intense and GX on Canyon. They need to start speccing with XT, GX seems inferior in terms of shifting and NX chain lasts 500 miles compared to XT over 2000. And XT cheaper than X01.
So lovely bike! But why is limit 84kg that I realy dont understand 😕 550 lbs (XL Size for 80 - 84 kgs rider weight) what's the problem with getting a stronger spring directly from the manufacturer?
Tracer S is one of my rope picks but maybe I'd steer from the ohlins equipped version, that sucks as in motorsports the ohlins is top top shelf in suspension.
I do not understand you then you don’t have enough progression, and you run faster to buy custom links of cascade componets, and when you have a progressive bike, you whine about the progression as a bit too much.
Come on fellas, you’re telling me Pinkbike can’t set up your Magura’s properly for no pad rub. Let me know if you need my help and I can get you sorted. The last thing we need is a bunch of internet hooey coming from the bike media. Oh wait, that’s what the industry likes… SMH.
Jesus, my bike was 850 euro, it's awesome, with altus derailer, but the brakes are let down, my other 350 euro bike has so much more braking power, I wonder, what's the problem, I've cleaned the disc with alcohol, smirk the pads, didn't help, but I don't care, I'm used to brake with force, from old bikes Ps: I do care
Well, intense didn't pay them as much as Santa Cruz and SRAM did. Saying that sram clutches could be a "little better" is quite hilarious when in fact SRAM doesn't have a clutch.
@@mrjohnnybond Don't try to play the innocent saint card, you were making fun of the Pinkbike guys to begin with. 😛 As you can see it's just not as pleasant when other people do the same to you.
Yes, if you want to ride a motorcycle/dirt bike please by all means go and buy one to ride on appropriate trails. The last thing we need is an increase in more electronic waste and battery production for riding bicycles.
the Music volume ramp up at @18:17 was very loud fo headphone users and completely cut out mats voice
The subtitles also cut out as he goes to say "supple", I'm thinking it's an intentional ramp to cover something...
Whoever is doing the final cut here seems to be slacking…
Yeah, the volume got pretty intense
this is the single best thing on youtube and the only reason I always look forward to the end of the summer
Love the bike. Love the look. I was wanting a Tracer to compliment my Primer and it definitely looks like a good choice. Thanks PB for the review!
I love mine. It’s a 2018. I think the bike is an overall great trail bike. It’s fast on xc but when you throw small to medium chunk it handles it great. The new one with longer travel would be a great choice
Cool bike, but who did the sick bump-jump-bunnyhop over the downed tree?
Alicia!
For the price the NX seems like it would be a bit of a letdown, that being said the rest of the components seem great. (Edit, nevermind)
Oops, that's an error - the Tracer S has a SRAM GX / XO1 drivetrain, not an NX drivetrain as stated in the video.
@@pinkbike that makes a lot more sense. I couldn’t tell from the initial closeup shot.
@@pinkbike I thought I was going crazy for a second there. I saw that GX cassette and was so confused.
I love nx. But with gx cassette.
@@nathantoney.1501 I feel like a GX derailleur with an nx cassette would be a better move in my case
Aside from the NX mix up, this was an extremely great review of the new Tracer paired with the Ohlins I've been considering on for mostly bike park. I really like how Mike seems non bias and can quickly point out interesting details and characteristics of bikes and components. The Intense factory is a few miles away from me and sometimes I'll drive by and see if they have anything interesting going on. (they always do!).
I have been a fan of Intense. Own the older tracer and the sniper, never disappoints
I may have missed it, but a review of the control tires would be awesome to complement these bike reviews--especially as they're fairly newly released to market 👍🏼
yeah they have control tires
www.pinkbike.com/news/review-continentals-new-kryptotal-dh-tyres.html -- here you go.
These videos have a strong "I've got a meeting with the Bobs" about my bike... office space vibe
I just own a Tracer 279 expert, coming from a 2018 Jeffsy, it's a big improvement everywhere exept climbing on road. This bike has a wonderful grip, but for now i feel the same about the progressiveness that seems set very far, i am still in "setting" but that second part of rear stroke is hard to apprehend!
High geo is ok for my usual riding and enduro races planned, i'll consider the Low for Bike park ridind or Méga style races, lowered the BB by 7mm in technical, natural and tight stuffs, no thanks!
Chad box location or opener suits me but big con is it has a tight point at beginning, don't expect to fill in a pump, and i have to find a way to mute the tools rattling into the frame despite the neoprene pocket.
Very cool bike, i can't wait the first race🤘🔥🔥
lol at 18:16 the editor just thought "bla bla bla" and turned up the music to the max ??? wtf?
"likes a bike with a lot of progression but still want that supple feel"
18:17 what did they censor by drowning a few words out with music? Why wouldnt they want us to hear "coil feeling" or something like that?
The MT7s are all like that. They have a very fine line for setup and once you get that and break them in well it normally goes away.
had to rewatch this one, really been thinking of trying this bike, i want the all rounder bike i can pedal and be playful with. have had a few intense bikes and the Uzzi was my all time favorite bike ever.
I like Matt’s take in this video!
Sounds like a fun New England bike to hit up the ESC Enduro series with!
I think intense gets a little too much criticism for their geometry choices. I agree they may lag the trend a little but i feel thats good because the trends always tend to push too far too fast.
I have been saddled up on a custom carbine w DVO for the last two seasons and compared to all the other bikes I’ve tested, the intense suits me best. Not to mention their customer service is second to none (except maybe evil).
This is my take on my Primer. Long and slack is fine for park riding, but in the woods when it gets twisty, they just don't handle as well as a shorter, steeper bike.
@@RyanRapetti I had the opposite view on the primer. I felt like it was a great trail bike that could manage some enduros but certainly would be a handful at a bike park with only 140 rear travel.
Levy says it comes with a seam nx drivertrain but it’s got an X01 derailuer?
Enduro bikes with 170mm are the new up-downhill-country bikes
I think you meant to say Endure-a-hill.
Anyone notice the back wheel at 7:07. Whoa, looks a little sketchy.
Fr
Prob 28h rim?
What's with the music @18:19? Wanted to stop matt from speaking?
Yeah that seems like a big oversight.
In general, I think there's too much music during the talking in these. The moment @18:19 that Nick mentioned is especially bad, but overall the music is distracting from the conversation and I'd rather it be left with riding clips when there's no talking or eliminated entirely.
Can't wait for the patrol review!
Me too I also have a 22 patrol xt build
Very clean and use thread tape + bolt lock tight and leave a few days with metal component on carbon frame/part and less likely to slip
18:19 Who is editing this? how do you even mix the audio like that?
The high BB option is for the use of a 180 fork.
looking at the intense lineup a few years ago i was surprised out how slightly outdated their geometry was. looks like they've modernised a lot!
Intense pivot hardware coming loose while riding!!! *sacre bleu*!!! 😲🤣
Right....say it ain't so!
on a review bike too
I’ve seen the full stock bike at Strait acres slalom and it has xo1 cranks so it’s a great bike
I totally thought this was an e-bike for a couple of minutes! Speaking of that, saw an old guy at the trail today with a huge intense e bike with a triple crown ohlins fork and coil! Bike was worth way more than the truck!!🤣
Lol what happened around 18:20 mark? You guys decided to censor Matt with the music?😀
Hopefully they have a full 29 option in the future.
Music gets out of control at 18:18 while Matt is trying to talk. Did somebody fall asleep on the fader?
Can you guys please do a review on the canyon torque? Im thinking of buying one
The sag is right but we didn’t use the full suspension, and it feels rough and you need to hang on. Come on, why are you lads going off recommend sag settings, sounds like you needed to go down a spring?
Who was that at 1:23 ?? Smooooth
I like it and want to buy it but very hard to find
Hm, I wonder why spring rate wasn’t a point in the review. It sounds like a wrong choosen spring could be responsible for some of the „issues“ mentioned like feeling steep and not using all travel.
Well I’m the video Matt said that the sag on the shock was spot on and he still had problems with the shock it would be interesting to see how this bike would handle with an air shock if it makes it better then with the coil
@@carterpnw7862 My suspicion is it would be worse, since air shocks are more progressive.
As a rider who rides a intense m29 which is not the same bike but same idea of how it works, it is a very very progressive bike which makes it super supple at the small bumps but it ramps up very stiff very quickly wich makes it really hard to achieve the full travel
@@carterpnw7862 well you could ride a different spring rate and still get desired sag by preload and maybe adjust compression damping to fine tune the support of the, supposedly lighter, spring.
@@b-boysadventures2628 in that case it should be good for the big hits and less worry of bottom out. I have the 18 to 21 MY Tracer and I find it's absolutely horrible to pedal but descends like it's on rails. It's not supple in roots or chattered washboard bumps but maybe that's an air shock thing. The Uzzi is still a top bike and I have my 2016 still
Bring back the intense spider
Tengo Commencal SX mullet ,,,pura felicidad 👍👍👍👍😊Sube muy bien muy comoda y baja como cohete !!!! Recomendada Precio / Calidad 👍
why does the mt7s not have tool-less reach adjustments?
Like you mentioned the hardware falling out I creaked and intense frame because of that.
not shure if NX on Sbuild was 3 months ago, but now is there GX deraileur AND Intense HAVE other enduro bike - 29 - 29 version...
PLEASE- Does anyone know the intro track/song??
GX/X01 🤦🏼♂️ should make that a pinned comment
Hi holy riders from pink bike, I actually own an Intene tracer from 2016, I love it and I’m figuring to race in Enduro amateur in Quebec next year. I’m actually figuring to buy a Orbea Rallon for my next ride, wich seems to be such a beast of an enduro racer. Jommdonyon compare the new tracer to a rallon? I’m actually impressed by my Tracer’s ability’s, when it comes to enduro race it seems that the Rallon is such a surgical weapon but as I figure in your latest review the new Tracer seem’s to be a great contendant. Hiw do you compare borh bikes?!? I’m looking to do amateur racing and have a get a lot of fun during our shorts summer here in Quebec… Thank’s for answering!!!
Sorry for the bad english, I’m only a poor french canadian 😅 by the way I’m loving your content and following your channel like a religion 🙏🏼
I wonder if it has any energy? Still unsure of the energy and does it feel like there's any energy?
LOLzzz!!!
They didn't like Matts thoughts at the end there
Sounds like the shock needs a lighter hsc tune and a more regressive hsr tune
Over $7K for NX drivetrain seems a "bit" much. The under the downhill tube compartment is not a smart use of space, IMO.
It has GX/X01 if you look closely, I believe they just misspoke....though it does seem to have NX on the "cheaper" build which makes no sense at that price
@@BasicBodThor I’m still surprised to see the low end cranks and heavy chain ring at that price though
I was really looking forward to this field test, BUT, after the first 3 bike reviews with Mike and Alicia as test riders, you swap out Alicia with Matt! Seriously! How can you do a comparison when you just changed 1/2 of the evaluators? And one last comment, when the riders are talking about the “shorter” bikes in the comparison, if you remove the Commencal Meta SX (it is notably longer than all the other bikes) the last six bikes only vary 8.8mm that’s 3/8 of a inch, is that really enough to make a noticeable difference in cornering? Wouldn’t a great bike comparison be if they got on a bike, without knowing any of its specs, and just rode it and evaluated it. Maybe it’s just me, but I get the feeling they look at the bike specs and say “oh this bike is the longest one, it’s going to be so stable, and this shorter one turns so good” when in reality there is only 4.5mm between the two bikes. Maybe what I would like, is a comparison where the bikes are all covered, you can’t see the brand and they ride them and rate them, and then reveal the specs, but I suppose until then I will take whatever reviews I can get, and Pinkbike, I do appreciate your reviews and look forward to them and all the riders opinions no matter who they are, thanks for doing them.
That's a lot of words to sort through, but here goes. All three of us (Mike, Matt, Alicia) rode all of the bikes. Two of us talk about each bike in these videos to make things easier - after all, the table's only so big (Levy takes up a lot of room). As far as looking at geo charts and specs, we typically don't do that until after we ride the bikes, that way when we're riding them we don't have preconceived notions in our heads.
@@pinkbike Ahhhhhhh, thanks for clearing that up, that makes sense, and is good to hear, with that, I will say thank you and keep up the good work, I do always look forward to your reviews, they are both informative and helpful, thanks for the response also :-)
Classic example of why you should pick a spring based on the frequency of the system, not from sag. Plus there is that giant bottom out bumper; sounds like Intense did a poor job with choosing this shock.
I have XT on Intense and GX on Canyon. They need to start speccing with XT, GX seems inferior in terms of shifting and NX chain lasts 500 miles compared to XT over 2000. And XT cheaper than X01.
HOW DO THIS NEW BIKES COMPARE TO LAST YEARS BIKE OF THE YEAR, TREK SLASH?!!
Why are your mics so quiet and your video transition music clips extremely loud.
Takeaway: My Magura MT7 brakes are always destined to rub pads.
NX? That looks like X01 derailleur
So lovely bike! But why is limit 84kg that I realy dont understand 😕 550 lbs (XL Size for 80 - 84 kgs rider weight) what's the problem with getting a stronger spring directly from the manufacturer?
Too bad there weren’t more colour options
This just proves that 64 deg is no longer slack🤣
18:16 lol wtf
LOL. Right? I was thinking the same thing...
Tracer S is one of my rope picks but maybe I'd steer from the ohlins equipped version, that sucks as in motorsports the ohlins is top top shelf in suspension.
I thought it’s Santa Cruz 🤔
e n e r g y
I do not understand you then you don’t have enough progression, and you run faster to buy custom links of cascade componets, and when you have a progressive bike, you whine about the progression as a bit too much.
If it feels too progressive with a coil shock, then it's probably too progressive. You can definitely have too much of a good thing.
Yeah, some bikes can be better than others in certain scenarios but in the end it's up to the rider to make it work on the trail.
@@TheDavidjakeson Agreed! I was thinking, "Yikes, what happens if you put an air shock on it?!"
@@Windband1 I guess you have a bike that rides like a slope style bike?
@@TheDavidjakeson LOL, but I already own a hard tail!
Come on fellas, you’re telling me Pinkbike can’t set up your Magura’s properly for no pad rub. Let me know if you need my help and I can get you sorted. The last thing we need is a bunch of internet hooey coming from the bike media. Oh wait, that’s what the industry likes… SMH.
In frame storage is stupid
You should fire your audio guy
I would never buy a Mullet Bike. I'm 29r for Life!!!
When I think of Intense I think of Costco
😂
Save time and say, it's a piece of shart, NEXT!
Jesus, my bike was 850 euro, it's awesome, with altus derailer, but the brakes are let down, my other 350 euro bike has so much more braking power, I wonder, what's the problem, I've cleaned the disc with alcohol, smirk the pads, didn't help, but I don't care, I'm used to brake with force, from old bikes
Ps: I do care
Intense used to be the tits 20 years ago but seem to have lost their shine now. Shame
Well, intense didn't pay them as much as Santa Cruz and SRAM did. Saying that sram clutches could be a "little better" is quite hilarious when in fact SRAM doesn't have a clutch.
u high mate? sram has a clutch, just doesnt have a lever to be able to turn it of
@@Tehasce """""clutch"""""
Dumbest comment of the year award?
@@HollyBoni Yup. Because insulting people is smart. Good job dude. Gratulálok.
@@mrjohnnybond Don't try to play the innocent saint card, you were making fun of the Pinkbike guys to begin with. 😛 As you can see it's just not as pleasant when other people do the same to you.
So in short- it’s skittish, and generally a bit shit.
Why would anyone spend 7k on an analogue, the market is gonna change, Analogues if they want to survive will need to be sub 5k in my opinion
Analogue? You mean a bike? Lmao Jesus, please don’t let this nonsense terminology gain traction. Mopeds don’t belong on bike trails
Yes, if you want to ride a motorcycle/dirt bike please by all means go and buy one to ride on appropriate trails. The last thing we need is an increase in more electronic waste and battery production for riding bicycles.
So, not great then eh?
Conclusion: not worth it
IT looks like norco range i thing they copy the design from norco.