Just to clarify: THIS IS NOT ME PLAYING. It's a guy named KaiserKreuz. Also, there is a higher difficulty setting called Bloodbath Mode that leaves you at LV 1.
Tien Windiarti Literally the only thing that increases the difficulty is the cumbersome size of your hitbox. Seriously, I feel like an elephant in a firing squad, as opposed to feeling like a fly in the rain while playing Touhou.
I feel like someone needs to point out what seems obvious: These patterns are hard not because of how hard they are to dodge, but because the heart sprite is much bigger than a Touhou sprite. Also there is no graze, as the full heart is your hitbox. Furthermore there is no focus in Undertale, so dodging fast patterns isn't so simple. Look man I'm a huge Touhou fan, but trying to say that all these fights are easy because they aren't in the Touhou format is pretty dumb. While I'm sure this is easier than the actual Flandre fight, you have to show some respect to the fact that there's no graze or focus for him to use.
I can't really speak for this particaular fangame, but Undertale has some pretty difficult patterns, it's just that Undertale is so generous with life that it's easier. Of course difficulty isn't everything and both games are very good and I enjoy playing them both.
Dreigonix Flandre acts way too playful and adds "-sies" to the end of a lot of words. She isn't acting 12 or 13. I recommend you check out the actual dialogue from the Canon games before you try to make dialogue. She's a lot more composed than the fandom makes her out for :/
+Umbra the SHDW The thing is, though, I think Flandre's actual dialog is too... _normal_ for someone like her. While there are many Touhou fanons that I don't like, I actually do prefer the cute-but-psycho fanon Flandre, even if her personality is a bit flanderized- or should I say, Flandreized. So I dunno.
If this were anything like the actual fight it would be near impossible cause Undertale's hitbox detection is complete ass compared to actual bullet hells
You see, the hitbox is really big and you don't have much to move around... The reason why I play more Touhou than Undertale is 'cause Undertale made me a bit... Claustrophobic... And Touhou has more space to move around...
Technically, it's the other way round, since TouHou's player hitboxes are thankfully much smaller than their sprites and the opponent ones are much bigger.
I'm referring to the bullets themselves as well. Touhou bullets generally have larger sprites than hitboxes. I think this goes for other bullet hells as well, most bullet hells have a larger player sprites than hitboxes too. This is needed in order to dodge some of the harder patterns.
...It's been a long time. How have you been? I've been really busy being banned. You know, after you got me BANNED. (Just kidding; no hard feelings here.) But yeah, I've moved on to bigger and better things now.
Yup same. I don't mind fanon for jokes and such, but Flandre while canonically mentally unstable, it's more of the type of "She just wants to give a hug, ends up being too big a bear hug"
I've always liked her more as a "tragic Loves everyone but can't touch them cause she's accidentally kill them" ... cause.... i just want to hug her... cause it would be worth death
+Awe67890 Mano You'll just have to play the battle to find out ;P (...Okay, fine. She doesn't really pay attention to flirting until you've cleared her final spell card and she's given up, at which point she hugs you and tells you she'd like to play again sometime.)
She's far from being dumb or ignorant. She follows the spellcard rules. She literally never did anything bad with her ability in canon, despite having more than enough power to cause big trouble. She could make the planet explode, for example.
+Tabbender i agree, i think she is a genious. Although to be fair she is probably a little naiive. (do to not a lot of social interaction) But I bet she wont fall for the same trick twice.
to be fair she's one of the most difficult characters to get an accurate portrayal of firstly if you try to do it the non-watch videos way, you need to trade your soul to the other scarlet devil to have a hope of even accessing this one secondly she's a character in only two of the games and does not have much dialogue to which a portrayal of her character can be faithfully gleamed thirdly a lot of her interpretation is fan-speculated and it's hard to glean what is canon and what isnt though i will admit, even though she's like, only 9 years old or some shit, she sounds way too young. like i dont know any kids who add superfluous extra 'se's to the ends of things and I know some pretty quirky kids
The fight itself looks amazing. You did a really good job recreating the Extra Stage fight with Flandre in the Undertale/Unitale engine. Like the others have said before me, I think the dialogue could've been more respectful to canon, as _waaaaay_ too many people assume her to be a murderous, bloodthirsty psycho, as opposed to just a kid who doesn't understand her true strength or how to interact properly with people. Judging by this footage, I would say that the hitboxes on the bullets are way too large, which essentially makes micro-dodging impossible. Other than that, you did a pretty decent job.
So this is how Americanized Flandre would be. What is the world coming to? Judging by the most recent canonical appearances of Flan (Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red, I think), Flan seems to actually be kind of smug and bratty rather than just childish. When Flandre escapes Gensokyo, you should sure be grateful that she sticks to the Spell Card rules, or else you'd just get crushed instantly. But this battle is actually pretty good. I only think it probably should've been made ever so slightly less difficult to sort of level with Undertale.
+Kirbachu5 Or rather, the difficulty should be more balanced. 'Cause as it stands now, the nonspells don't really pressure you all that much, so you can heal really easily, at least on Double Yandere Mode.
@Shade_Guye Download any recent version of CYF and put SetPPCollision(true) in EncounterStarting. Make sure to use Retrocompatibility mode, otherwise the items won’t work.
Dreigonix Well, it was just a bit of a laugh. The fact that you've gotten as many bullets as you have will easily do. And the fact that you've coded in so many unique attack patterns (not using the crappy stock patterns) is testament to how good you are with this.
Aww, you're making me blush. ^__^' Though I'm not even close to the best around. Heck, the guy who recorded this? KaiserKreuz? He made a battle simply called "Your Battle" that is... quite an experience. And then of course there's Blazephlozard's Alphys Neo...
To all those commenting about the difficulty, here’s my take on it. The fight as a whole is pathetically easy, because you have infinite items, and if you want, you can just heal to full after each attack. The actual danmaku itself, however, is maybe about the equivalent of Normal mode Touhou, especially considering Undertale’s less lenient hitbox system and slower movement speed compared to Touhou.
I think a Flandre battle in Undertale is a great idea, but I don't like this one... I consider that it's too much inspired from Touhou, and more than Undertale : the bullet sound, a psychotic Flandre... this is not what I expected... ! This is my opinion, I'm sorry if you haven't understood what I wanted to explain, I'm learning English.
No, that's fair. After all, this WAS the second script I made, and I wanted to put more emphasis on the danmaku, my main goal being to create a mostly-faithful recreation of the original Flandre battle. Maybe I'll return to this concept later and experiment with some more stuff.
+Dreigonix Oh ! Thank you for being that kind with me ! ^^ I thought it was simply an Undertale-Touhou mixed battle ! Now I understand ! Thank you and I hope you'll progress ! I didn't like it but I have to say that it was great! Good luck !
tbf yes, the bullet hell style between undertale and touhou IS sigmificantly different. it wouldn't truly work if you just imported an attack pattern from one game to the other
Dreigonix If so, it would be so funny to include her 'No, it means you can't continue!' from when you fight her as Marisa in EoSD. Just the idea of continues in UT would make any version of a joke in that sense comedy gold.
@donhimesamadaifutari "Touhou would still be possible to beat" so you might know about Eirin- jk, maybe even her nons are doable that way, especially because they're stuck in "Border Team: the game"
Just beat Bloodbath without items. Basically involves abusing the heck out of the Capture=Full Health Restore mechanic, along with decent dodging skill. Also, doing it in CYF helps because of better hitboxes. Seriously. You get clipped so much on non-square bullets in Unitale, it’s not even funny.
this fight recreated in a pokemon battle: A wild Flandre Scarlet appeared! Go, Frisk! What will FRISK do? [Fight] [Shit] [Bag] [Run] Frisk used Slash! It's not very effective... Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed! Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used Cranberry Trap! It's super effective! Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "Cranberry Trap" was disabled! Flandre used red bullets! It's not very effective... Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used HYPER BEAM!!! Flandre's attack missed... Frisk used Recover! Frisk recovered health! Flandre used red bullets! It's not very effective... Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used Quadruple Team! It's super effective! Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "Four of a kind" was disabled! Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed! Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used Constrict! It's not very effective... Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "Kagome Kagome" was disabled! Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed! Frisk used shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used Confusion! Frisk became confused! Frisk is confused! Frisk used BOMB! but it failed... Flandre used red bullets! Critical Hit! It's not very effective... Frisk is confused! Frisk used shoot! Frisk accidentally shot himself due to confusion! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used Aurora Beam! It's Super Effective! *cue annoying critical health sound from pokemon red and blue* Frisk snapped out of confusion! Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "Starbow Break" was disabled! Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed! Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used Catadioptric Reflection! Flandre's attack missed! Frisk used Recover! Frisk restored health! Flandre used red bullets! it's not very effective... Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat cannot go any lower! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used Counter Clock! It's not very effective... Frisk became confused! Frisk is confused! Frisk used Slash! Frisk's attack missed! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used Swift! Frisk is confused! Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "And then will there be none?" was disabled! Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed! Frisk is confused! He hurt himself out of confusion! Flandre used Spell Card! Flandre used Q.E.D. Ripples of 495 Years! It's Super Effective!! *cue critical health sound again* Frisk snapped out of confusion! Frisk used Slash! Critical Hit! Wild Flandre Scarlet fainted! Frisk gained 495 Exp. Points!
@@Dreigonix It's Always the Homework.... someone give her a pocket dimension to play in... OI TOARUVERSE ME!!!! ...Wheres the damn Novelist Esper when you need them
Meeting Flandre: -1st time: Didn't even make it past her 1st non-spell. -3rd try: 1st spell. Finds out that bombs don't do sheet on her during spellcards. Realizes my level of "I'm effed." -6th try: 1st time facing lavateinn, 0 lives, 0 bombs. Insta-rekt, literally. Didn't expect a big@ss laser to sweep me so fast. Let's just say it took me nearly a month to barely make it.
I just love how people are trashing on the difficulty while ignoring the fact that undertale's movement are either horizontal,vertical,or the mix of both,no free movement.the character also moves slower,undertale also have the box thing to limit your movement toward easier spots,making some patterns impossible to dodge. Undertale also doesn't have bombs,and the hitbox are much bigger compared to touhou. I've 1cc'ed hard mode lolk with equal amount of effort with beating sans. Conclusion: undertale is easier than touhou,but not THAT much easier,at least in some areas
who is playing such creepy? it isn't someone, who actually played Touhou, because the person sucks as cirno in easy stage in the EoSD...free spots everywhere and failed to get them...
Opinion (WARNING: I ACTUALLY KNOW SHIT): As a person who can't stay focused enough to make a proper Unitale battle, the waves are good. The Kagome Kagome wave isn't exactly the best, some of the bullets didn't move the right way, and also the larger bullets only push bullets near it. Also, some of the waves (especially the one with the lone laser) are too long for their bullet count and/or aren't accurate. Two other problems I have with the battle are the lack of animation for Flandre's sprite and the slow default speed. You could have easily increased the speed with custom inputs. Overall, I give this a 7 out of 10. Pros are the good difficulty (for undertale) and kinda accurate waves. Cons are the lack of animation, some waves being too long and lack of good speed boost. Thank you for reading my opinion of this battle.
+Dreigonix Wow that was fast. Also just a bit of advice; (Hidden monster with act options replaced with items, + changingstate function == items menu) == true.
+Piano Goat I'm not exactly Blazephlozard here... ^__^' Hopefully they'll have implemented full item functionality by the time I make the remastered version.
+Dreigonix Not likely :| Although I think CYF has built-in item functions, as well as built-in movement of the arena, custom hp, stuff like that. I'm not exactly sure cuz I prefer normal Unitale.
+Piano Goat I do use CYF. I mean, stand-alone Unitale is basically dead at this point anyway; it's been totally integrated into CYF as far as I know. XD
Having played it myself now, some of the dumb hits you took are pretty excusable. These are some of the worst hit boxes I think I've ever seen in an otherwise competently made game. I know the reason for it, but wow they are bad, I got hit by stuff outside the arena once. Then again, I'm an idiot and for some reason feel the need to put a self imposed item block on every game I play. Oh well. Wait wait, Monster Hunter's hip checks. Those are pretty bad too.
+doomsdayboss I wasn't the one playing this, but yeah. It's not exactly easy to get good hitboxes with round bullets as it stands. Also, hello, fellow MH fan! :D
I understand entirely. I've noticed some wonky hitboxes in other fan created stuff too, so I can imagine how hard it must be. Still, if this is Flandre easy mode, oh how I dread the thought of fighting her in her prime. You know, when I can find a copy of the games she makes an appearance in xD Plesioth has best hitbox ;p
full determination frisk: i can make your dreams come true flandre: wow really full dt frisk: yes *makes the last dream come true* flandre: im finally free from my basement WOO HOO IMMA PLAY WITH EVERYBODY NOW frisk: i just ensured the end of the world
Meh, I really don't mind the psycho Flan portrayal, but I like to think she's only like that when angry at something. Otherwise, I prefer the portrayal as the little girl who simply doesn't know her own strength, and, more importantly, hasn't really seen the outside world. Nearly five centuries of being locked up will do that to ya. Marisa and Reimu can take a hit, Danmaku or not, so she can interact and play with them better than she could an everyday human. That, and Flan being fond of pranks...that, I like too. As to 'she'd never seen a human other than Marisa'. Sakuya being a human, is, even in-universe, debatable. Despite her many claims, many characters are not really convinced. Many think she's at least a hanyou, maybe half lunarian or has lunarian ancestry....
Well, I know everyone already said this, but maybe you could try to make the dialogue sound more like canon Flandre? Tbh, I feel that she is a bit too crazy on this one, where in canon she`s just a *little* unstable (and is probably my favorite version of Flandre by far). Plus, she doesnt put -ies on everything she says, you know... But again, I`m just repeating everything that other people have already said, so... yeah... XD
Just to clarify: THIS IS NOT ME PLAYING. It's a guy named KaiserKreuz.
Also, there is a higher difficulty setting called Bloodbath Mode that leaves you at LV 1.
Dreigonix good, cuz this isn't the best gameplay EVER
Dreigonix Kaiser should've used a healing item other than the first one
doesn't Kaiser mean cheese in german?
+Cassie Reece
No, that's "käse". XD
ok
undertale player=phew this is just fandom.imagine it was real!!!
meanwhile touhou player=we wish flandre was this easy
Tien Windiarti Literally the only thing that increases the difficulty is the cumbersome size of your hitbox.
Seriously, I feel like an elephant in a firing squad, as opposed to feeling like a fly in the rain while playing Touhou.
Tien Windiarti This fight is WAY TOO EASY, even Cirno is harder
The hurtbox is way larger though, and you have to use arrow keys
Im a Undertale and TouHou fan. So... yeah... Imagine the two Flandre's together! It would be so freaking hard.
Yeah it would be soooooooooooo easy
Whoever was playing this wouldnt survive an actual touhou game
Yep lmao
hell no
Though the attacks are easier, the hitbox is bigger than the sprite for some weird reason.
@@therealcactoos9457 Undertale hitbox sucks
Yeah...
I feel like someone needs to point out what seems obvious:
These patterns are hard not because of how hard they are to dodge, but because the heart sprite is much bigger than a Touhou sprite. Also there is no graze, as the full heart is your hitbox. Furthermore there is no focus in Undertale, so dodging fast patterns isn't so simple.
Look man I'm a huge Touhou fan, but trying to say that all these fights are easy because they aren't in the Touhou format is pretty dumb. While I'm sure this is easier than the actual Flandre fight, you have to show some respect to the fact that there's no graze or focus for him to use.
There is a way to slow your movements.
Hold X, I think.
I can't really speak for this particaular fangame, but Undertale has some pretty difficult patterns, it's just that Undertale is so generous with life that it's easier.
Of course difficulty isn't everything and both games are very good and I enjoy playing them both.
there is a focus, its shift. and what would graze even do?
Finally, someone spitting facts.
Also, the box restricts our movements along with that enormous hitbox.
But ngl, Touhou helped me a lot in clearing undertale with ease.
It'd be nicer if the dialogue wasn't so fandom-based and sounded more like canon Flandre :/
Like, what do you mean?
Dreigonix Flandre acts way too playful and adds "-sies" to the end of a lot of words. She isn't acting 12 or 13. I recommend you check out the actual dialogue from the Canon games before you try to make dialogue. She's a lot more composed than the fandom makes her out for :/
+Umbra the SHDW
Huh. Well, it's not like there's much to go on, given that she only has a speaking part in one game, but perhaps.
Dreigonix Ah, thank you.
+Umbra the SHDW
The thing is, though, I think Flandre's actual dialog is too... _normal_ for someone like her. While there are many Touhou fanons that I don't like, I actually do prefer the cute-but-psycho fanon Flandre, even if her personality is a bit flanderized- or should I say, Flandreized. So I dunno.
Didn't know Flander had easy mode, danm
The Mono Maid i do?
If this were anything like the actual fight it would be near impossible cause Undertale's hitbox detection is complete ass compared to actual bullet hells
This is SUPER EASY MODE! You know, instead of for kids. FOR BABIES AND SKRUBS!
me too
Piter & Pedro Studioz
Lol u just wanted to be like a real touhou player do u even play the game
kids
welcome to touhou easy mode
Hello IwannaDIE Ehhhhh MAH EASY MODO????
Undertale's hit box is as big as your sprite
Hu Hu Hu... WELCOME TO THE UNIVERSE OF BULLET HELL, LITTLE KID
easy mode? this is baby mode, in easy mode you would die in 5 seconds
I think it's *too* easy to be easy mode
*EHHHH?! EASY MODO?!*
LOL
*Insert Japanese here spewed by Reisen and Tewi*
You see, the hitbox is really big and you don't have much to move around... The reason why I play more Touhou than Undertale is 'cause Undertale made me a bit... Claustrophobic... And Touhou has more space to move around...
@@dexieleighyan2625 not in hard and lunatic tho
sakuya can you please unfreeze Flandre so she can move
Undertale hitboxes are so wonky compared to other bullet hells...
Technically, it's the other way round, since TouHou's player hitboxes are thankfully much smaller than their sprites and the opponent ones are much bigger.
I'm referring to the bullets themselves as well. Touhou bullets generally have larger sprites than hitboxes. I think this goes for other bullet hells as well, most bullet hells have a larger player sprites than hitboxes too. This is needed in order to dodge some of the harder patterns.
+Satorical Komeijist
Late reply, sorry.
That would be because Unitale doesn't really have an easy way to deal with hitboxes.
This isn't even Undertales real engine lol what
rartin laffey
Only if Flandre was this easy...
"These wings aren't just for flying yannow."
I'M PRETTY SURE YOU CAN'T FLY WITH THOSE
Well yeah, Gensokyo and all,
But you won't make me believe That it's *normally* possible
There's no logic in Gensoukyou.
I thought that would be obvious by now.
+Asriel, The Absolute God of Edgy
"You can't let yourself be trapped by common sense in Gensokyo, right?"
Dreigonix
Definitely not.
So you're saying u need bird wings to fucking fly? I guess magic doesn't count as an explanation to all this Gensokyo logic.
-Flandre is being adorable.
CrimsonEbonyTears And going easy (Very)
Is she Ever Not being adorable?
@Morgan Kong Nah even then she's sill being adorable
Ah, my first dislike! This means people have finally decided I'm worth their hatred! I'm so proud. :D
XD
Look, I had to hit that dislike button after the shot noises, they covered up such a good cover of UN Owen!
+Taco
Well, I linked to the original remix by HertzDevil in the description- that's his work, not mine. XD
...wait shit I only just realized, I think we both know each other. I'm That Taco. You're That Dreigonix. God. This is weird.
...It's been a long time. How have you been?
I've been really busy being banned. You know, after you got me BANNED.
(Just kidding; no hard feelings here.) But yeah, I've moved on to bigger and better things now.
Good battle, though I'm not a big fan of how most fanon portrays Flandre (I'm more of a fan of the canon portrayal of her) but that's just me.
Yup same.
I don't mind fanon for jokes and such, but Flandre while canonically mentally unstable, it's more of the type of "She just wants to give a hug, ends up being too big a bear hug"
steeledminer616 or she wants to play a friendly match of danmaku but instead her first card is the lavaeten
MariMari same
I've always liked her more as a "tragic Loves everyone but can't touch them cause she's accidentally kill them" ... cause.... i just want to hug her... cause it would be worth death
Flan isn't that edgy goddamn
She's already an unbelievably destructive vampire to whom murder is just play. The edgiest thing I could do is have her take you seriously. XD
+Dreigonix What happens if you try to flirt with her constantly?
Dreigonix what
+Awe67890 Mano
You'll just have to play the battle to find out ;P
(...Okay, fine. She doesn't really pay attention to flirting until you've cleared her final spell card and she's given up, at which point she hugs you and tells you she'd like to play again sometime.)
I wanna lie on Flan's lap
Now those undertale players will understand a REAL bullet hell
NEVER!!!! \(òwó)/ #Hail2ho
FEAR THE QED!!!
Hope so....
I beat PCB lunatic mode, and sans still flattens me
Odd Wright Oh god ita look harder than sanns ALOT
the true is Frisk might not able to live after 1 second, if he meet Flandre
Why would they automatically fight to death ? Flandre just wants to play.
i don't know Flandre can understand the word of "PLAY".
She's far from being dumb or ignorant. She follows the spellcard rules. She literally never did anything bad with her ability in canon, despite having more than enough power to cause big trouble. She could make the planet explode, for example.
+Tabbender i agree, i think she is a genious. Although to be fair she is probably a little naiive. (do to not a lot of social interaction) But I bet she wont fall for the same trick twice.
Su Ai Ko i think youre wrong,remember the saves?he could do that like sans does it in the sans battle
Isn't it Wonderful when fandoms can get along?
I have a bad feeeling about this....
making touhou in undertale doesn't really work because you're allowed to get hit in undertale, not touhou
Hence why I had to adapt the patterns and such.
Still good work
Good looking fight. Only real issue is the way Flan is portrayed. Gotta go by them canons! .u.
to be fair she's one of the most difficult characters to get an accurate portrayal of
firstly if you try to do it the non-watch videos way, you need to trade your soul to the other scarlet devil to have a hope of even accessing this one
secondly she's a character in only two of the games and does not have much dialogue to which a portrayal of her character can be faithfully gleamed
thirdly a lot of her interpretation is fan-speculated and it's hard to glean what is canon and what isnt
though i will admit, even though she's like, only 9 years old or some shit, she sounds way too young. like i dont know any kids who add superfluous extra 'se's to the ends of things and I know some pretty quirky kids
She isn't 9 years old at all, even outwardly. She looks as old as Remilia, and Remilia don't look that young in the official mangas.
It would have been better with a joke regarding continues...
Yeah gotta go with the Precious must hug even though it will kill you ones
The fight itself looks amazing. You did a really good job recreating the Extra Stage fight with Flandre in the Undertale/Unitale engine. Like the others have said before me, I think the dialogue could've been more respectful to canon, as _waaaaay_ too many people assume her to be a murderous, bloodthirsty psycho, as opposed to just a kid who doesn't understand her true strength or how to interact properly with people. Judging by this footage, I would say that the hitboxes on the bullets are way too large, which essentially makes micro-dodging impossible. Other than that, you did a pretty decent job.
Thanks! I'll fix the hitboxes when the engine allows for it...
Uuhhhhh???? Why am i in undertale i dont know but playing with frisk is FUN!!!!
Id love to just dont forget the rules!
AsrielStyles GD ok! *fires red bullets*
Flandre Scarlet Jegus, that must be a really bad lock they have on the basement door.
Flandre Scarlet wait, here, I have a skill to easily win: OOC Sign: Cannonless comment
Hello Flandre
_Frisk when ever find yourself encounter in a fight with a Touhou character._
_REMEMBER TO STAY _*_DETERMINED_*
Lucas Sorry, Frask. You only get 3 continues and 4 lives.
STK Animations
OH NO!
So this is how Americanized Flandre would be. What is the world coming to?
Judging by the most recent canonical appearances of Flan (Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red, I think), Flan seems to actually be kind of smug and bratty rather than just childish.
When Flandre escapes Gensokyo, you should sure be grateful that she sticks to the Spell Card rules, or else you'd just get crushed instantly.
But this battle is actually pretty good. I only think it probably should've been made ever so slightly less difficult to sort of level with Undertale.
+Kirbachu5
Or rather, the difficulty should be more balanced. 'Cause as it stands now, the nonspells don't really pressure you all that much, so you can heal really easily, at least on Double Yandere Mode.
> 495 ATK
> Deals 3 damage
*Seems legit*
I think that's a reference to her age, also undyne has 99atk and deals 20 damage
This makes Touhou look easy.
Scarlet Scythe
If only Flandre was this easy... In real Touhou games
Just wait until they play Touhou theirselves...
*THEY'LL ALL BE BURNING IN HELL! URAHAHAHAHAHA!*
I play touhou 10 and 8 in lunatic mod for the First time (i have finish normal and hard mod) and my asshole Hurt me...
@@e-lee-za6613 wtf,all you need is combined focus + unfocus as fast as you can.that my story beat this game in lunatic
Love how everyone's saying this is Touhou easy mode and dissing Undertale players.
Crossovers.
I'd actually play it if the hitboxes weren't squares.
Blame the engine for that.
Dreigonix I've seen many unitale battles, so I don't think it's only that.
maybe it's hard to do that.
@Shade_Guye Download any recent version of CYF and put SetPPCollision(true) in EncounterStarting. Make sure to use Retrocompatibility mode, otherwise the items won’t work.
Canon Flandre: *exists*
Person who wrote this Flandre's lines: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.
This is extremely inaccurate.
There should be 3 million times as many bullets.
And that's before you dive into Ultra difficulty.
+Therandomc 64
If the engine allowed for it, I would. ;D
Dreigonix Well, it was just a bit of a laugh.
The fact that you've gotten as many bullets as you have will easily do.
And the fact that you've coded in so many unique attack patterns (not using the crappy stock patterns) is testament to how good you are with this.
Aww, you're making me blush. ^__^'
Though I'm not even close to the best around. Heck, the guy who recorded this? KaiserKreuz? He made a battle simply called "Your Battle" that is... quite an experience. And then of course there's Blazephlozard's Alphys Neo...
And now I find that Flan doesn't even HAVE an ultra.
That last one was fairly accurate though.
Dreigonix And I've seen both of those. They are quite the spectacles indeed.
Flandre Scarlet 495 ATK 495 DEF
**gets hit**
- 3 HP
You have 56 FUCKING lives
Well technically 18.6 but still
hot And to compensate, you also have cumbersome, asinine hitboxes.
Septuple Yeah, this was easier than EASY mode...
hot hitpoints
I want to delete this comment section
I love how frisk can smell colors
*smells like easy mode*
0:12 WARNING! This attack is very loud I recommend to turn down your head/earphones!
+AsrielFan9000 SansFan#Badtime
I am going to laugh and assume that your username is a joke. XD
Wat you say
Oh, you finally uploaded it on UA-cam ! You told me about it and linked the Reddit link on Deviantart like a month ago
Tabbender who are you?
To all those commenting about the difficulty, here’s my take on it. The fight as a whole is pathetically easy, because you have infinite items, and if you want, you can just heal to full after each attack. The actual danmaku itself, however, is maybe about the equivalent of Normal mode Touhou, especially considering Undertale’s less lenient hitbox system and slower movement speed compared to Touhou.
>choosing anything other than flirt
Heh.
this make sans easy (which he is)
only the first fight versus sans is hard but if you fight more and more it's going easier and easier =)
Yeah, Sans gets pretty easy pretty fast if you fight him a lot.
I mean, the whole fight is essentially static so
Clownpiece
Oh shit clownpiece. My 2hu best grill.
Sans is harder than this shit.
And most actual bosses in Touhou make this look easy, for comparison.
I feel bad for the guy playing because of how big his hitbox is
The soul hitbox is to big for make dense patterns :sadge:
I think a Flandre battle in Undertale is a great idea, but I don't like this one...
I consider that it's too much inspired from Touhou, and more than Undertale : the bullet sound, a psychotic Flandre... this is not what I expected... !
This is my opinion, I'm sorry if you haven't understood what I wanted to explain, I'm learning English.
No, that's fair. After all, this WAS the second script I made, and I wanted to put more emphasis on the danmaku, my main goal being to create a mostly-faithful recreation of the original Flandre battle. Maybe I'll return to this concept later and experiment with some more stuff.
+Dreigonix Oh ! Thank you for being that kind with me ! ^^ I thought it was simply an Undertale-Touhou mixed battle ! Now I understand !
Thank you and I hope you'll progress ! I didn't like it but I have to say that it was great!
Good luck !
+kaku, the cartoonist
Thanks!
+Dreigonix You're welcome ! ^^
+Dreigonix give Flandre some undertale expired attacks. And that applies to cirno as well.
Flandre: Will you play with me?
Frisk: no please! (Frisk is afraid of Flandre)
Flandre: Scared of a Little Girl? =)
tbf yes, the bullet hell style between undertale and touhou IS sigmificantly different. it wouldn't truly work if you just imported an attack pattern from one game to the other
Flirt!??
She's a vampire so it's legal.
Heh.
What do you mean by that?
I mean, you're right. XD
I won't let you do that!
Remilia Scarlet Calm were not gonna do that!
The writing can only be described as cringeworthy
Again: since this was my first script, the focus was on the combat rather than the writing. I might remaster this at some point in the future.
Dreigonix That may be pretty interesting if you did.
Dreigonix If so, it would be so funny to include her 'No, it means you can't continue!' from when you fight her as Marisa in EoSD. Just the idea of continues in UT would make any version of a joke in that sense comedy gold.
You did the right thing, We need to stop this war
you see, when you take so little damage, the dodgin part becomes kinda meanless, since you can tank it out most hits...
still pretty impressive stuff
There is a Bloodbath Mode that puts you at 20 max HP.
And I'm glad you like it. ^_^
Alternate title: Dumb bullets being as big as their sprite (4:46)
@donhimesamadaifutari "Touhou would still be possible to beat"
so you might know about Eirin-
jk, maybe even her nons are doable that way, especially because they're stuck in "Border Team: the game"
This is gaming
Just beat Bloodbath without items. Basically involves abusing the heck out of the Capture=Full Health Restore mechanic, along with decent dodging skill. Also, doing it in CYF helps because of better hitboxes. Seriously. You get clipped so much on non-square bullets in Unitale, it’s not even funny.
I want to flirt Flandre
You play it on genocide run? Your LV is quite high :3
Fighting Flandre in a genocide run ?
...i'll pass.
the mod has a version called "Bloodbath mode" where you are LV 1 and another, which is easier where as you can see in the video, you are LV 10
Piklup the mod make others touhou characters?
She's the most insane vampire.
this fight recreated in a pokemon battle:
A wild Flandre Scarlet appeared!
Go, Frisk!
What will FRISK do? [Fight] [Shit] [Bag] [Run]
Frisk used Slash! It's not very effective...
Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed!
Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used Cranberry Trap! It's super effective!
Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "Cranberry Trap" was disabled!
Flandre used red bullets! It's not very effective...
Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used HYPER BEAM!!! Flandre's attack missed...
Frisk used Recover! Frisk recovered health!
Flandre used red bullets! It's not very effective...
Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used Quadruple Team! It's super effective!
Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "Four of a kind" was disabled!
Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed!
Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used Constrict! It's not very effective...
Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "Kagome Kagome" was disabled!
Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed!
Frisk used shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used Confusion! Frisk became confused!
Frisk is confused!
Frisk used BOMB! but it failed...
Flandre used red bullets! Critical Hit! It's not very effective...
Frisk is confused! Frisk used shoot! Frisk accidentally shot himself due to confusion!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used Aurora Beam! It's Super Effective! *cue annoying critical health sound from pokemon red and blue*
Frisk snapped out of confusion!
Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "Starbow Break" was disabled!
Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed!
Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat fell!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used Catadioptric Reflection! Flandre's attack missed!
Frisk used Recover! Frisk restored health!
Flandre used red bullets! it's not very effective...
Frisk used Shoot! Flandre's DEFENSE stat cannot go any lower!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used Counter Clock! It's not very effective... Frisk became confused!
Frisk is confused!
Frisk used Slash! Frisk's attack missed!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used Swift!
Frisk is confused! Frisk used Graze! Flandre's "And then will there be none?" was disabled!
Flandre used red bullets! Flandre's attack missed!
Frisk is confused! He hurt himself out of confusion!
Flandre used Spell Card!
Flandre used Q.E.D. Ripples of 495 Years! It's Super Effective!! *cue critical health sound again*
Frisk snapped out of confusion! Frisk used Slash! Critical Hit! Wild Flandre Scarlet fainted! Frisk gained 495 Exp. Points!
Nice. XD
feel like this battle should be harder though. Flan should do 10 damage per hit.
There IS a hard mode, Bloodbath Mode, that leaves you with lower LV.
still takes at least 7 hits. Flandre battle should make it 6 hits or less, and makes flan's basic attack punishing
by the way, do you think flandre is insane or is she just unaware of her powers?
Strongest undertale player vs Weakest Touhou Player
The hit boxes are oversized.
Flandre's being like..... merciful, lazy, and a few other things.... probably tired
She didn’t get enough sleep and she had a big homework assignment from Keine. XD
@@Dreigonix It's Always the Homework.... someone give her a pocket dimension to play in... OI TOARUVERSE ME!!!! ...Wheres the damn Novelist Esper when you need them
best part: 13:26
Are you trying to be snarky?
No
#wonemptyhanded :')
Sonic The Hedgehog #thatwenttoofast
Thanks that hurts how cringy it is
You are not serious flandre's stats are the same as her age
2:52 love what they did for Taboo: four of a kind!
Thanks! ^__^ That's probably the most coding-intensive spell I had.
>Flirt is an option
if i were actually good at bullet hells i'd try this game out just to see where that dark path leads
I can survive this for 10 second but I can only survive 3 second when I was with real flandre scarlet...... this is more easy than the real game tho
Hana 花 Sakura 桜 I can't even make it TO Flan...
You have 56 Health + Healing Items, of course it's gonna be easier.
Meeting Flandre:
-1st time: Didn't even make it past her 1st non-spell.
-3rd try: 1st spell. Finds out that bombs don't do sheet on her during spellcards. Realizes my level of "I'm effed."
-6th try: 1st time facing lavateinn, 0 lives, 0 bombs. Insta-rekt, literally. Didn't expect a big@ss laser to sweep me so fast.
Let's just say it took me nearly a month to barely make it.
Don't play with her. Just R U N .
Just say no to her.
Where Remilia?
Easy Extra Stage.
I just love how people are trashing on the difficulty while ignoring the fact that undertale's movement are either horizontal,vertical,or the mix of both,no free movement.the character also moves slower,undertale also have the box thing to limit your movement toward easier spots,making some patterns impossible to dodge. Undertale also doesn't have bombs,and the hitbox are much bigger compared to touhou. I've 1cc'ed hard mode lolk with equal amount of effort with beating sans.
Conclusion: undertale is easier than touhou,but not THAT much easier,at least in some areas
Flan!! Didn't I tell to stop playing with random people!!
now this is FDY difficulty
wait did i just accidently invent a new difficulty ._.
who is playing such creepy? it isn't someone, who actually played Touhou, because the person sucks as cirno in easy stage in the EoSD...free spots everywhere and failed to get them...
It's being played by a guy called Kaiser Kreuz. Friend of mine.
Dreigonix but he isn't really familiar with the Touhou Project gameplay, right? it's kinda looks like.
Don't worry it was just a Damnaku battle,
base on reimu, it was a fight that each opponents didn't kill each other....
or.... this is different...
Opinion (WARNING: I ACTUALLY KNOW SHIT):
As a person who can't stay focused enough to make a proper Unitale battle, the waves are good.
The Kagome Kagome wave isn't exactly the best, some of the bullets didn't move the right way,
and also the larger bullets only push bullets near it. Also, some of the waves
(especially the one with the lone laser) are too long for their bullet count and/or aren't accurate.
Two other problems I have with the battle are the lack of animation for Flandre's sprite
and the slow default speed. You could have easily increased the speed with custom inputs.
Overall, I give this a 7 out of 10.
Pros are the good difficulty (for undertale) and kinda accurate waves.
Cons are the lack of animation, some waves being too long and lack of good speed boost.
Thank you for reading my opinion of this battle.
+Piano Goat
Thanks!
I do plan to remaster this battle in the future, so I hope you'll check it out when I do! ^_^
+Dreigonix
Wow that was fast.
Also just a bit of advice;
(Hidden monster with act options replaced with items, + changingstate function == items menu) == true.
+Piano Goat
I'm not exactly Blazephlozard here... ^__^'
Hopefully they'll have implemented full item functionality by the time I make the remastered version.
+Dreigonix
Not likely :|
Although I think CYF has built-in item functions,
as well as built-in movement of the arena, custom hp,
stuff like that.
I'm not exactly sure cuz I prefer normal Unitale.
+Piano Goat
I do use CYF. I mean, stand-alone Unitale is basically dead at this point anyway; it's been totally integrated into CYF as far as I know. XD
0:49. Those are star of David turrets.
Hexagram turrets, to be specific.
Ya know... If you double the speed, it actually looks kind of like a touhou danmaku battle.
"Yeah thats me, the cutest one of all"
"You're ugly"
-RED engineer, 2007
good!
Hello, person who made the sprite! Glad you like it. ^_^
Lunatic faries are harder.
UN Owen was Temmie?
imaging having a hitbox as large as the sprite
easier than easy mode
I want the original Ripples of 495 years to be that slow :""""(((
フランドールの弾幕はヤバイでしょ
Wow thank you algorithm for this video.
Also I love the fact that the original Flandre theme was remixed to sound more Undertale-like
Ahh cruel memories...
wow i did not expect a pure recreation. Looks good!
Having played it myself now, some of the dumb hits you took are pretty excusable. These are some of the worst hit boxes I think I've ever seen in an otherwise competently made game. I know the reason for it, but wow they are bad, I got hit by stuff outside the arena once.
Then again, I'm an idiot and for some reason feel the need to put a self imposed item block on every game I play. Oh well.
Wait wait, Monster Hunter's hip checks. Those are pretty bad too.
+doomsdayboss
I wasn't the one playing this, but yeah. It's not exactly easy to get good hitboxes with round bullets as it stands.
Also, hello, fellow MH fan! :D
I understand entirely. I've noticed some wonky hitboxes in other fan created stuff too, so I can imagine how hard it must be. Still, if this is Flandre easy mode, oh how I dread the thought of fighting her in her prime. You know, when I can find a copy of the games she makes an appearance in xD
Plesioth has best hitbox ;p
doomsdayboss Somebody make a Plesioth fight and just have the hipchecks smother the whole box.
And people say that Touhou's a ripoff of Undertale, and vice versa. -3-
Touhou obviously came first. And Undertale actually was inspired by Touhou in a lot of areas, according to Toby Fox himself.
え？アンダーテールだよね
This still good in 2022
How did i use cranberry trap twice?
And its boooooooooring when you stay still i need action in my games!!! I like it when they move atleast knowing they will break atleast once.
Stop
Disbelief Chara Dreemurr Says the person who claims that he has Touhou and Undertale on Android
IceIander North You can get undertale on android. Just won't be able to move. And for touhou,you just get a bunch of crappy rip-offs.
Chara Dreemurr Stop what?
Noice dude~ It would be even more better if it actually sounded like flan though.
Frisk would be op in touhou, just give them Chara's ERASE button and some Gaster Blasters.
Looks like she's going easy on you!
Knowing I can't beat undertale, and looking at Touhou gameplay, it's probably best I stick to FPS games.
full determination frisk: i can make your dreams come true
flandre: wow really
full dt frisk: yes *makes the last dream come true*
flandre: im finally free from my basement WOO HOO IMMA PLAY WITH EVERYBODY NOW
frisk: i just ensured the end of the world
To be honest.. I Expected Flanders Attacks to be more powerful. Since well... you know... *_495 Attack Power_*. but either way, its a good script!
This is the crossover we all needed
This would allready be BulletHell for undertale players like me
As a huge Undertale fan and a common Touhou fan I can say that this Is hard in Undertale base but the guy still sucks at dodging.
Meh, I really don't mind the psycho Flan portrayal, but I like to think she's only like that when angry at something.
Otherwise, I prefer the portrayal as the little girl who simply doesn't know her own strength, and, more importantly, hasn't really seen the outside world. Nearly five centuries of being locked up will do that to ya. Marisa and Reimu can take a hit, Danmaku or not, so she can interact and play with them better than she could an everyday human.
That, and Flan being fond of pranks...that, I like too.
As to 'she'd never seen a human other than Marisa'. Sakuya being a human, is, even in-universe, debatable. Despite her many claims, many characters are not really convinced. Many think she's at least a hanyou, maybe half lunarian or has lunarian ancestry....
Flandre isn't psycho or crazy at all, just childish
Like I said, that's what 'I' like to think, no need to tell me, I'm aware of canon. But fanon is flexible, since there are so many versions...
Well, I know everyone already said this, but maybe you could try to make the dialogue sound more like canon Flandre? Tbh, I feel that she is a bit too crazy on this one, where in canon she`s just a *little* unstable (and is probably my favorite version of Flandre by far). Plus, she doesnt put -ies on everything she says, you know... But again, I`m just repeating everything that other people have already said, so... yeah... XD