It's a pity we don't have big name stars like that today in that league. I believe today's celebrities/move stars just don't have that type of glamour, style and star quality that Bob Hope and Lucille Ball had in their days.
Arlene is courteous and tactful as always, mentioning Bob and Lucy's movie at 16:45 then breaking in with a question for Lucy at 19:45 after John and Bob have mostly been talking over Lucy, nattering on about the USO show. Classic "hostess" etiquette, designed to make everyone feel a part of the conversation -- I'll bet her parties were memorable successes!
I love the way Lucy tries to exhume Buddy Hackett's rib about inviting Hope to wash his windows. She was very gracious to him and you can see his appreciation when they shake hands at the end
Mike James Szynalski Thank you, Mike. Probably goes without saying, I'm watching these videos constantly to keep up with postings, so I can't remember details most of the time from past shows.
+Warp Prime 42 I like how, when Lucy mentions Vivian Vance at 19:46, there is a genuine warmth in her voice. Apparently Lucy thought very highly of her TV side-kick.
Folks like Bob & Lucy and a thousand others spent their lives during the age of vaudeville, live radio and live TV, some while also working legitimate theater, and including a thousand live appearances for promotional purposes and the USO and, in some cases, rickety old opera houses in small towns from coast to coast. These people honed their craft working in front of live audiences. They were real performers, unlike most of todays' stars who wouldn't know what to do with a live audience. They had to be multi-talented, charming and professional. When vaudeville died and TV drew audiences of many millions per night, there was a great need for the old vaudevillians and live performers, and they made the Golden Age of Television golden. We'll not ever see the likes of them again.
This is just great. You can tell Lucy and Bob are having a ton of fun and the audience just loves it. Two of the greatest titans of show business ever. I own 'Critic's Choice' the movie they were 'promoting' together, and it's hilarious.
The worst movie that Bob and Lucille were ever in "Critics Choice"they thought the same and were out trying to gather interest in the movie - it didn't work!
Buddy Hackett's introduction routine was one of the funniest bits of business ever done in WML. And I don't remember any other time that someone else walked out for the guest panelist. Bishop had visited the panel fairly regularly in 1959 and 1960
steve Fowler Celebs from those days actually had talent and they worked extremely hard to keep their own star shining bright. Not a single entertainer from those days would get a foot in the door today because it's all about looks, sex and scandals.
C21L01 Hollywood was just as sleazy then as it is now. Many 'classic stars' got their foot in the door because they were pretty or they hooked up with someone who had the right connections. You're just more aware of it now because of the increase in media and availability of information.
@@C21L01 The Golden Age of Hollywood featured a lot of sleaze and scandal. They just kept it under wraps. And the casting couch in the studio executive's office was a real thing.
This is a special posting to this “channel”. Old films and early television must be saved and rebroadcasted to newer generations.’ As always, thanks’ for taking the time to support these films! And I support this site. ~M~
Bob Hope and his frequent film co-star, Lucille Ball, have appeared more times as mystery guests on this show than anyone else (Bob Hope 5 times, Lucille Ball 6 times).
I wonder if we'll ever know the reason for Dorothy Kilgallen's untimely demise; she was such a sharp cookie who was known for her terrier-like approach to getting the full story. I always enjoy watching her. It's almost as if you can see her gears turning as she thinks up questions.
@@Nancy-er2bg She was focused on learning who killed JFK; and got too close to the answer.. She was warned off, but doggedly forged ahead. So they found a way to kill her and make it look like a suicide. I loved Dorothy and don't watch the episodes without her.
@@gbrumburgh It's not a theory. It's a fact that has been proven. You need to do proper research instead of being lazy and going by what the lying msm tells you. There were too many factors that didn't make any sense whatsoever for it to be a suicide. One one was " Why weren't her reading glasses near her if she suppose to have been in bed reading with her book with her?" There are a lot more things that didn't make any sense for it to be a suicide.
Pause at 15:59 and forward one frame at a time by using the 'period'-key on your keyboard (use the 'comma'-key for reverse). Step by step you can see the reactions of Bob and Lucy when they realised they've been recognised. Quite a sight. "ski nose" hahaha.
Stars were different then. First of all, always beautifully turned out. Second, poised, intelligent and amiable. I had friends who lived on the same elite street in Beverly Hills as Lucille Ball and was told it was a neighborhood the same as any neighborhood. Everyone knew everyone else, people went to each other's homes for dinner or just to visit, they were bringing up children and they belonged to churches and synagogues. When I met some of them I found them to be normal, gracious, warm and welcoming people. Who somehow knew who I--a teacher and writer from Chicago--was! I learned that Lucy drove herself to and back home from the studio every day! She once said the secret of her doing so many challenging things at the same time was she only focused on one challenge at a time and "when I am driving home I am concentrating totally on driving home." I never met any star, not one, who was aloof.
Jack Benny lived next door to Lucy on North Roxbury Drive. He kept publicity photos on his foyer table. And when a fan would ring his doorbell, Jack would often answer it himself. He would sign a photo for a fan and chat with them for a while. That was back in the days when it was safe for a star to do that. Not safe anymore.
Aw, Bob and Lucy's picture, "The Facts of Life" was deserving of an Oscar nomination for both of those wonderful stars. My favorite picture of these two together!
Bob Hope was a legendary celebrity, bigger than life back in 1940's, 1950's, 1960's and 1970's, not to mention 1980's and 1990's. Like Picasso was in painting buisness. Witty, out- going, creative, hard-working, and ...nice fellow !!!
Lucy sold Desilu Studios to Paramount who was next door on the other side of the wall between them. When my mom was working at a dry cleaners in Clinton, Iowa, she waited on Bob Hope. I was in school at the time darn it.
Not sure if any one else commented on this, but when Johnny Olsen introduces Arlene Francis; the name plate in front of her says Miss Kilgallen and when Dorothy goes to her seat it says Miss Francis. Before the 1st contestant, someone on the staff must have noticed, because when they show the panel before the woman sits down, the name plates are in the right celebrities' places.
Well, in most of the episodes I've watched, Dorothy is in the first seat and Arlene is in the third seat. They must have had to switch places last minute for some reason.
My parents had a bookcase that was full by 1963. Pretty much the only thing they bought by this time was from the Readers' Digest Condensed Book series. So I was surprised at one point when Bob Hope's book mentioned on this episode, "I Owe Russia $1200" (paperback edition), appeared in in our home. I had no idea how it got there. I don't remember them buying it or receiving it as a gift. It was just there on a tea wagon in our foyer. I read it many times: a quick, easy and funny read. It deals with more than his trip to Russia. He talks about some of the interesting things that happened to him when visiting the troops and about the difficulties of making a film in France with all the holidays the crew could take. (Ironically, the name of the picture was "Paris Holiday". While in France, he had an unusual encounter that made a great impression on me, one of the main reasons I would go back and reread.
I love what Lucy has on. Absolutely unmistakable voices - Bob's and Lucy's. Such a natural easy camaraderie between Bob, Lucy and the panel. I love love showbiz people.
Lucy is just gorgeous here. The last time Lucy visited WML she was involved in a Broadway play and a movie with Bob Hope entitled "The Facts of Life." This time she is plugging "Critic's Choice:" which is a comedy about husband-wife writers and her new play At the time people generally did not think it was the funniest thing ever done in movies, though it was good. It emphasized some character development, which probably disappointed those who wanted a bunch of laughs.
I’ll bet Arlene was watching Lucy while John and Bob talked about Bobs schedule. Lucy looked like she was starting to get irritated/angry that they weren’t talking to her. Then Arlene tactfully brought Lucy into the conversation. That was an elegant move.
I didn't see irritation. Those two had just put in 19 appearances in 2 days and could work perfectly well together. I saw Lucy yield the floor to a man whose legend was as big or bigger than her own. I also think it says something about Lucy that she could set aside whatever ego she had and give Bob the light. And you're right; that was pretty savvy and strategic of Arlene to give Lucy a question.
She and Dorothy did that quite often, especially with women. I loved it! One of the best was when Raquel Welch appeared -- they were in complete AWE and I thought they'd both flip over backwards in their chairs leaning back to watch her leave. Priceless! lol.
freeze at 1:33 -- as Joey Bishop goes back into the entrance, which like never happened except here -- a rare glimpse of what the inside of the entrance looks like.
This is a bit random, and I can't believe it's taken me this long to notice, but the final guest after the mystery guest is always from the greater New York City area. I guess these were the people who didn't know if they would be on the show or not, and it only cost the producers a taxi fare and maybe some food to bring the potential guests to the theater. Hopefully these final guests got to meet the mystery guests backstage.
well..you wouldnt pay to bring someone there to just sit around...and if you think bob hope or any guest is greeting people off camera...well...did you notice they are only on the show to plug their careers?
Great show. Lucy really did look gorgeous and I'm glad John kept them there for a chat. I always hate when an MG has to run off as soon as they're discovered. And as much as I absolutely love JCD, Bob's name was NEVER Robert!
I’m starting to think the legendary Mystery Guests tend to be the easiest to guess! It felt like the whole panel figured out it was Bob and Lucy after only a couple questions.
Though I was a wee lad when originally aired, I enjoyed many of the re-runs and still do to this day. When adults ran the country and had an elegant, sophisticated, and erudite humor. Most everyone was courtly, respectful, and interested whatever it was you did, not your skin color (a$$holes are part of our existence, that will never stop, and some of them do it with racism, which is very rare now). Thank you so much for this upload. Paz y salud.
It is an unincorporated area. It is not an actual town or city. The DC area unlike the Northeast has many counties with no towns or villages in them. I am certain that very few people in the Washington area would be familiar with some of these very small communities. Notice that she was the dog catcher for Prince George's County and not for Forestville -- there is no municipal government in Forestville except for the county.
I've lived in the DC area for 40 years, including 17 years in Bowie, MD (in Prince George's County), and I have only a vague idea where Forestville is. There are lots of those little towns and hamlets that you hear the names of but don't know their exact location unless you have some relation to them.
I was watching some Mysteries & Scandals episodes, and came across one of Dorothy. Steve Allen speaks of her, and it's got a few pictures I hadn't seen before. Also, I wonder if by any chance, the What's My Line logo and panelists desk behind the show's host are the originals? Dorothy Kilgallen "Mysteries & Scandals" Produced by Danny Schwartz, Alison Martino & Michael Danahy
Gil Fates in his book on WML wrote that he thought Larry Blyden was the best interviewer of the three WML hosts. Well, OK . . . . Daly did great interviews as well when time allowed. As examples, the questions he asks in the Lucy mystery guest segments illustrates that point.
When he wanted to, he sure could do a great interview. But it wasn't just a matter of time, though. This is my one big complaint against Daly: most often, even when there was plenty of time for chatter after the questioning segment, he essentially extolled the virtues of the guest in a monologue, leaving them to reply with the same "yes" and "no" answers they were restricted to before! It's more understandable with the non-celebrity guests, who might have been nervous, but to do this with established public personalities was a bit unnecessary. I do wish he'd have let them talk for themselves more often than he did.
Thank you for this! I consider the two best show moderators of television to be John Daly and Johnny Carson. But, Johnny knew how to shut up and let his guests talk, and how to ask leading questions to draw the guests out. He was a master at putting people at ease. John loves his own loquacious erudition too much and often I want to yell at my laptop, "John, just Shut Up!" He can't distinguish between the guests who need his verbosity and those who don't.
When did this business of big stars like Lucy and Hope ACTUALLY going out to theaters to promote films stop (19 theaters in two days???)? I grew up in Virginia Beach/Norfolk, and I wouldn't have expected that in our little burgh. Did the stars going in person to theaters really help the box office, and my real question is what did they do when they got there? I can't imagine George Clooney going on tour to promote a film, or even Elvis, well not to the theaters themselves. Radio and tv promotion can be done from Hollywood and in Hollywood, anyway.
monkeyg333 I was referring to the show members NOT the "wild New York" audience. New York is known for being WILD. But still whistling is much more respectful than rude comments or even physical assault which happens these days. Sadly the polite days of the WML era are gone. Now rudeness is the rule.
I sympathize! Even back in 1997, call me old fashioned, but I was showing up at a singles group meeting at a restaurant and there was no seat left at the large group of tables all put together by the restaurant to accompany our group. (I had found myself in the "dating world" again, unfortunately, after a recent divorce and I was in my very early 30s. So was everyone else in their late 20s or early 30s at the table.) Well, to my great surprise and disappointment of the "gentlemen" there, not even one of them gave up his seat for me, the lady who just arrived there!! :( It forced me to make one of three choices: wait there uncomfortably until someone actually displayed his good manners, sit nearby at a table alone, or just leave out of humiliation! Please, guys, don't justify and say that maybe I was fat or unattractive; I was neither! (Even for a person who has been properly trained by his parents on good manners toward a lady, this shouldn't be an excuse!) Well, needless to say, I was sadly forced to admit that dating again might be more of a chore for me than I had suspected it would be up until that moment! Fellas, politeness goes a long way! It is, by far, the EASIEST way to instantly gain a person's respect upon very first meeting! It is also, sadly, the easiest way to make the recipient wishful for a better situation to remember! I might add that as an elementary school teacher now, I often hear both parents and teacher's comment that when a child has good manners, it is very impressive and desirable. Let's teach our children when they are young!
What bread is made from was alive, but bread itself is not, and has never been, alive. That said, on the show, they had some peculiar definitions. They usually did not include plants in living things, or bugs in animals.
She had huge social anxiety. For all of her comic talent (to some, not so much to me), she had great difficulty with one on one interractions and small group chitchat. Not unusual with some in the comedy field -- see Johnny Carson as another example.
It's unusual that Bob Hope did this, unscripted. Johnny Carson hated having him as a guest, because he demanded that everything had to go off of a script when he appeared.
around 19:50 - RE Lucy’s response to Arlene’s question and the applauds. Lucy in 1963 starred in the first season of “The Lucy Show” - the black and white series with Lucy and Vivian living with their kids in one house in the village of Danfield, Westchester County, New York. Some now call that season that last season in spirit of “I Love Lucy.” At this point she was the leader of Desilu Productions which made multiple series and things for TV including Danny Thomas’s and Dick Van Dyke’s sitcoms. In 1962, to entice CBS to pick up all of Desilu’s proposed products, Lucy did “The Lucy Show” for CBS. However, she originally said that it would be just one season. However, CBS convinced Lucy to renew the series 6 times. The first and this upcoming second season - written by her “I Love Lucy” staff writers - were for my taste the most funny of the six.
Vivien Vance was on the show for the first two seasons. After she left the show it wasn't as funny. They replaced her with Gale Gordon and he was NOT funny. He just had one routine and it got very tiresome very quickly.
![What's My Line? - Peter Lawford; Joey Bishop [panel] (May 12, 1963)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NYVfnCKZHp8/mqdefault.jpg)
![What's My Line? - Peter Lawford; Joey Bishop [panel] (May 12, 1963)](/img/tr.png)
![What's My Line? - Phyllis Diller; Shelley Berman [panel] (Feb 10, 1963)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6i1uh33XlXE/mqdefault.jpg)
![What's My Line? - Hermione Gingold; Tom Poston [panel] (Sep 8, 1963)](/img/n.gif)
Bob Hope and Lucille Ball were a great match on screen. They made 3 films together and had alot of chemistry
made 4 movies together: 3 good ones Sorrowful Jones, Fancy Pants, and The Facts of Life. One terrible movie: Critics Choice.
Wow. Can you imagine being in the audience that night? To see those two come out at the same time? They're about as big as it got. WOW.
It's a pity we don't have big name stars like that today in that league. I believe today's celebrities/move stars just don't have that type of glamour, style and star quality that Bob Hope and Lucille Ball had in their days.
American Royalty - at the absolute top of their game.
These two were wonderful mystery guests, entertaining and generous. Deserving of the title of "star."
@@shirleyrombough8173 true that. True. That.
My thoughts exactly.
Arlene is courteous and tactful as always, mentioning Bob and Lucy's movie at 16:45 then breaking in with a question for Lucy at 19:45 after John and Bob have mostly been talking over Lucy, nattering on about the USO show. Classic "hostess" etiquette, designed to make everyone feel a part of the conversation -- I'll bet her parties were memorable successes!
I loved Arlene Francis diction and pronunciation; it added to her stage presence.
Bob was just a few months shy of his sixtieth birthday here. Miss Ball was about 52. And both, incredibly good sports for doing the show.
I love the way Lucy tries to exhume Buddy Hackett's rib about inviting Hope to wash his windows. She was very gracious to him and you can see his appreciation when they shake hands at the end
Two of the biggest stars of any medium to ever appear on TV.
We (most of us)can’t imagine how difficult and hard work it was, to be a movie star like Bob Hope and Lucille Ball.
Choices
I like how bob and lucy used each other's last names when signing in
Nice to see women that time so elegant and dress well. 😘😍
Much like my mistresses.
Nice to see Bob Ball and Lucille Hope together.
Typo or joke?
What's My Line? Watch the part when they introduce Bob Hope and Lucille Ball writer their names on the chalk board.
Mike James Szynalski Thank you, Mike. Probably goes without saying, I'm watching these videos constantly to keep up with postings, so I can't remember details most of the time from past shows.
+Warp Prime 42 I like how, when Lucy mentions Vivian Vance at 19:46, there is a genuine warmth in her voice. Apparently Lucy thought very highly of her TV side-kick.
@@michaeljamesszynalski5990 lr
Bob Hope's response to Buddy's new look was SPOT ON. Lucy was a stunner. Such incredible talents packed into that little spot next to John Daly.
"was" is the operative word look at her apppearance here in 1954 aged 20 yrs & voice more scratchy was a big time smoker
Gosh Lucille Ball was beautiful lady
Folks like Bob & Lucy and a thousand others spent their lives during the age of vaudeville, live radio and live TV, some while also working legitimate theater, and including a thousand live appearances for promotional purposes and the USO and, in some cases, rickety old opera houses in small towns from coast to coast. These people honed their craft working in front of live audiences. They were real performers, unlike most of todays' stars who wouldn't know what to do with a live audience. They had to be multi-talented, charming and professional. When vaudeville died and TV drew audiences of many millions per night, there was a great need for the old vaudevillians and live performers, and they made the Golden Age of Television golden. We'll not ever see the likes of them again.
14:34 Bob Ball and Lucy Hope. Love it!!
You could tell that Lucy and Bob adored one-anther. Lucy's final public appearance, a few weeks before she died in 1989 was at the Oscars with Bob.
This is just great. You can tell Lucy and Bob are having a ton of fun and the audience just loves it. Two of the greatest titans of show business ever. I own 'Critic's Choice' the movie they were 'promoting' together, and it's hilarious.
The worst movie that Bob and Lucille were ever in "Critics Choice"they thought the same and were out trying to gather interest in the movie - it didn't work!
Wow. Two serious legends all wrapped up into one mystery guest. What a great day that must've been!
Bob Hope and his quick wit, making up jokes on the fly !! All he had to do is talk for a living.
Buddy Hackett's introduction routine was one of the funniest bits of business ever done in WML. And I don't remember any other time that someone else walked out for the guest panelist. Bishop had visited the panel fairly regularly in 1959 and 1960
The "celebs" of those days were actual Stars that people held in high regard...how times have changed.
steve Fowler Celebs from those days actually had talent and they worked extremely hard to keep their own star shining bright. Not a single entertainer from those days would get a foot in the door today because it's all about looks, sex and scandals.
C21L01 Hollywood was just as sleazy then as it is now. Many 'classic stars' got their foot in the door because they were pretty or they hooked up with someone who had the right connections.
You're just more aware of it now because of the increase in media and availability of information.
@@C21L01 The Golden Age of Hollywood featured a lot of sleaze and scandal. They just kept it under wraps. And the casting couch in the studio executive's office was a real thing.
This is a special posting to this “channel”. Old films and early television must be saved and rebroadcasted to newer generations.’ As always, thanks’ for taking the time to support these films! And I support this site. ~M~
Bob Hope and his frequent film co-star, Lucille Ball, have appeared more times as mystery guests on this show than anyone else (Bob Hope 5 times, Lucille Ball 6 times).
ZoneFighter1 But I trust you've since discovered that they actually starred in several films together?
They had so much chemistry together 👍
Buddy Hackett was nice looking when he was younger.
Once we get back to school as normal . I’d like to do this with students. Teach logic , chain of thought and critical thinking
I wonder if we'll ever know the reason for Dorothy Kilgallen's untimely demise; she was such a sharp cookie who was known for her terrier-like approach to getting the full story. I always enjoy watching her. It's almost as if you can see her gears turning as she thinks up questions.
She was amazing . She was murdered. Many people are making UA-cam videos about her now
Jeff, the God of Biscuits she was amazing. She was murdered
@@Nancy-er2bg She was focused on learning who killed JFK; and got too close to the answer.. She was warned off, but doggedly forged ahead. So they found a way to kill her and make it look like a suicide. I loved Dorothy and don't watch the episodes without her.
She died of an overdose of alcohol and barbiturates. Her being murdered is a theory.
@@gbrumburgh It's not a theory. It's a fact that has been proven. You need to do proper research instead of being lazy and going by what the lying msm tells you. There were too many factors that didn't make any sense whatsoever for it to be a suicide. One one was " Why weren't her reading glasses near her if she suppose to have been in bed reading with her book with her?" There are a lot more things that didn't make any sense for it to be a suicide.
Love this programme, we never had a TV in those days ❤
Pause at 15:59 and forward one frame at a time by using the 'period'-key on your keyboard (use the 'comma'-key for reverse).
Step by step you can see the reactions of Bob and Lucy when they realised they've been recognised. Quite a sight. "ski nose" hahaha.
Stars were different then. First of all, always beautifully turned out. Second, poised, intelligent and amiable. I had friends who lived on the same elite street in Beverly Hills as Lucille Ball and was told it was a neighborhood the same as any neighborhood. Everyone knew everyone else, people went to each other's homes for dinner or just to visit, they were bringing up children and they belonged to churches and synagogues. When I met some of them I found them to be normal, gracious, warm and welcoming people. Who somehow knew who I--a teacher and writer from Chicago--was! I learned that Lucy drove herself to and back home from the studio every day! She once said the secret of her doing so many challenging things at the same time was she only focused on one challenge at a time and "when I am driving home I am concentrating totally on driving home." I never met any star, not one, who was aloof.
North Roxbury Drive> > > (I lived there a few years ago.) I used to see Lucy driving her Blue Rolls Royce.
Jack Benny lived next door to Lucy on North Roxbury Drive. He kept publicity photos on his foyer table. And when a fan would ring his doorbell, Jack would often answer it himself. He would sign a photo for a fan and chat with them for a while. That was back in the days when it was safe for a star to do that. Not safe anymore.
Aw, Bob and Lucy's picture, "The Facts of Life" was deserving of an Oscar nomination for both of those wonderful stars. My favorite picture of these two together!
Love watching this.
Bob Hope was a legendary celebrity, bigger than life back in 1940's, 1950's, 1960's and 1970's, not to mention 1980's and 1990's. Like Picasso was in painting buisness. Witty, out- going, creative, hard-working, and ...nice fellow !!!
Lucille Ball was so cute here...
BossaNossa1 w
How apropo Lucy’s last appearance was at the Emmys with Bob.
Buddy looks the best he ever has been. Trimmer and the facial fuzz has him actual looking less goofy and more handsome.
Boy, that was fast! It took them all of less than one minute.
Lucy sold Desilu Studios to Paramount who was next door on the other side of the wall between them. When my mom was working at a dry cleaners in Clinton, Iowa, she waited on Bob Hope. I was in school at the time darn it.
And Paramount tore the wall down and physically made the two studios into one.
Two amazing comedians, and *lovely* people. I've loved Bob for many years.♡♡
My 2 fav comedians, Lucy and Bob.....Loved this..
I love to see the people from Maryland and D.C. All my hometown folks.
Mine too! Hagerstown here!
Same here my Maryland peeps!! A small town near Upper Marlboro!! 😊❤
Not sure if any one else commented on this, but when Johnny Olsen introduces Arlene Francis; the name plate in front of her says Miss Kilgallen and when Dorothy goes to her seat it says Miss Francis. Before the 1st contestant, someone on the staff must have noticed, because when they show the panel before the woman sits down, the name plates are in the right celebrities' places.
Wow-- you have quite an eye for detail! :)
+Michael Souza You possess the eagle eye ! Good for you !
+Michael Souza ...amazing that you noticed that !
WOW! GOOD EYE!
Well, in most of the episodes I've watched, Dorothy is in the first seat and Arlene is in the third seat. They must have had to switch places last minute for some reason.
Is one of you red haired and the other one ski nosed? That last one killed me. lol
Irma Kusley was an awesome hair dresser. She and Lucy's makeup wizard, Hal King really made her look great for TV.
Love that outfit that DK has tonight.
Two of the all time greats, who are sorely missed...Maurice H
Buddy was rather fetching in a beard!
I usually don't like facial hair; but it was cute on Buddy Hackett.
As am I.
My parents had a bookcase that was full by 1963. Pretty much the only thing they bought by this time was from the Readers' Digest Condensed Book series. So I was surprised at one point when Bob Hope's book mentioned on this episode, "I Owe Russia $1200" (paperback edition), appeared in in our home. I had no idea how it got there. I don't remember them buying it or receiving it as a gift. It was just there on a tea wagon in our foyer.
I read it many times: a quick, easy and funny read. It deals with more than his trip to Russia. He talks about some of the interesting things that happened to him when visiting the troops and about the difficulties of making a film in France with all the holidays the crew could take. (Ironically, the name of the picture was "Paris Holiday". While in France, he had an unusual encounter that made a great impression on me, one of the main reasons I would go back and reread.
Never saw Buddy so skinny.
They had Hollywood diet bread for ages. It was really good. The modern diet bread is made with wood pulp
Ha. Nice to hear an audience gasp at the stretch of a pun. ;)
Buddy looks good with that beard!
I love what Lucy has on. Absolutely unmistakable voices - Bob's and Lucy's. Such a natural easy camaraderie between Bob, Lucy and the panel. I love love showbiz people.
you understand they are performing for the camera....i hope
@@jadezee6316 they had a friendship. So they are playing it up but they are also friends. They lived across the street from each other.
Filmed only a few months prior to Lucys 52nd birthday.
Lucille never looked lovelier than she did in 1963
Lucy is just gorgeous here. The last time Lucy visited WML she was involved in a Broadway play and a movie with Bob Hope entitled "The Facts of Life." This time she is plugging "Critic's Choice:" which is a comedy about husband-wife writers and her new play At the time people generally did not think it was the funniest thing ever done in movies, though it was good. It emphasized some character development, which probably disappointed those who wanted a bunch of laughs.
I remember seeing Critic's Choice on afternoon TV when I was a child in the '70s. I thought it was pretty good back then.
I didn't like Bob's character being so dismissive of Lucy's character in Critics Choice.
Lucille Ball was a stunning woman
Washes off
@@dinahbrown902Can't wash off those gorgeous eyes or facial features 🙄
22:26
"I think he arrested me once."
Oh Buddy's getting some real laughs in tonight.
Buddy grew up in Brooklyn and the final challenger was from Brooklyn.
I though it was funny when Joey Bishop came out for Buddy Hackett. He should have sat on Buddy's lap and played along!
I’ll bet Arlene was watching Lucy while John and Bob talked about Bobs schedule. Lucy looked like she was starting to get irritated/angry that they weren’t talking to her. Then Arlene tactfully brought Lucy into the conversation. That was an elegant move.
I didn't see irritation. Those two had just put in 19 appearances in 2 days and could work perfectly well together. I saw Lucy yield the floor to a man whose legend was as big or bigger than her own. I also think it says something about Lucy that she could set aside whatever ego she had and give Bob the light. And you're right; that was pretty savvy and strategic of Arlene to give Lucy a question.
Oh for the days when it was safe for the whole family to sit down and watch television for the evening....
I've watched Lucy's every appearance on WML and she always uses the same voice. I think I'd know right away, as this panel did!
I love how Arlene gives the bread lady the once over, and the up and down look after she walks by......
She and Dorothy did that quite often, especially with women. I loved it! One of the best was when Raquel Welch appeared -- they were in complete AWE and I thought they'd both flip over backwards in their chairs leaning back to watch her leave. Priceless! lol.
Notice that too
I liked how Dorothy and Arlene looked. Less stuffy
Less formal dress is more suitable for this type of show I think.
Hollywood Florida. Wow! Like these old shows...second contestant
Those were the days...What is left to say...?
😊
Dial it down, Daly might be a good place to start.
Lucille Ball was a very attractive woman.
I think folks have forgotten that.
Her early-sixties look seemed to work the best for her. The makeup didn't look as garish here as it sometimes did in color.
The Hollywood Bread building was just demolished early this month (10/2021)
Lucy was always easy to identify, because of her unique voice. She should have spoken in a high pitched voice like Bob.
Cigarette voice
I always liked Bob Hope's nose/profile. I know it was the butt of many jokes, but he looked nice.
How very odd to like such a feature.
Love bob hope n lucy love you miss u😔
freeze at 1:33 -- as Joey Bishop goes back into the entrance, which like never happened except here -- a rare glimpse of what the inside of the entrance looks like.
That would be Forestville, MD. To me, the guest enunciated well enough that John should have caught it.
Lucy was a real beauty!
Hackett was also on the panel for one of Lucy's 1965 appearances and got a huge laugh asking if she were a man. Hardly.
This is a bit random, and I can't believe it's taken me this long to notice, but the final guest after the mystery guest is always from the greater New York City area. I guess these were the people who didn't know if they would be on the show or not, and it only cost the producers a taxi fare and maybe some food to bring the potential guests to the theater. Hopefully these final guests got to meet the mystery guests backstage.
well..you wouldnt pay to bring someone there to just sit around...and if you think bob hope or any guest is greeting people off camera...well...did you notice they are only on the show to plug their careers?
There's usually quite a bit of head room over John and the contestants. Director Franklin Heller apparently preferred it that way.
Great show. Lucy really did look gorgeous and I'm glad John kept them there for a chat. I always hate when an MG has to run off as soon as they're discovered.
And as much as I absolutely love JCD, Bob's name was NEVER Robert!
@Lannie .Bartlett. That's right. He was born Leslie Hope in 1903. I'm pretty sure that he was born in England. He took the stage name Bob.
I’m starting to think the legendary Mystery Guests tend to be the easiest to guess! It felt like the whole panel figured out it was Bob and Lucy after only a couple questions.
Arlene is Miss Kilgallen for the evening 😂
EDIT: Oh they switched them back. Sneaky sneaky
Though I was a wee lad when originally aired, I enjoyed many of the re-runs and still do to this day. When adults ran the country and had an elegant, sophisticated, and erudite humor. Most everyone was courtly, respectful, and interested whatever it was you did, not your skin color (a$$holes are part of our existence, that will never stop, and some of them do it with racism, which is very rare now). Thank you so much for this upload. Paz y salud.
I'm surprised that someone so familiar with D.C. as John Daly didn't know about a community 15 miles from the district!
It is an unincorporated area. It is not an actual town or city. The DC area unlike the Northeast has many counties with no towns or villages in them. I am certain that very few people in the Washington area would be familiar with some of these very small communities. Notice that she was the dog catcher for Prince George's County and not for Forestville -- there is no municipal government in Forestville except for the county.
I've lived in the DC area for 40 years, including 17 years in Bowie, MD (in Prince George's County), and I have only a vague idea where Forestville is. There are lots of those little towns and hamlets that you hear the names of but don't know their exact location unless you have some relation to them.
I was watching some Mysteries & Scandals episodes, and came across one of Dorothy. Steve Allen speaks of her, and it's got a few pictures I hadn't seen before. Also, I wonder if by any chance, the What's My Line logo and panelists desk behind the show's host are the originals? Dorothy Kilgallen "Mysteries & Scandals" Produced by Danny Schwartz, Alison Martino & Michael Danahy
back when celebs cared about this country - they had class - nowadays Hollywood is crap
Wrong.
Crap? You think it is as good as that?
Dorothy's hair!!!
Gil Fates in his book on WML wrote that he thought Larry Blyden was the best interviewer of the three WML hosts. Well, OK . . . . Daly did great interviews as well when time allowed. As examples, the questions he asks in the Lucy mystery guest segments illustrates that point.
When he wanted to, he sure could do a great interview. But it wasn't just a matter of time, though. This is my one big complaint against Daly: most often, even when there was plenty of time for chatter after the questioning segment, he essentially extolled the virtues of the guest in a monologue, leaving them to reply with the same "yes" and "no" answers they were restricted to before! It's more understandable with the non-celebrity guests, who might have been nervous, but to do this with established public personalities was a bit unnecessary. I do wish he'd have let them talk for themselves more often than he did.
Thank you for this! I consider the two best show moderators of television to be John Daly and Johnny Carson. But, Johnny knew how to shut up and let his guests talk, and how to ask leading questions to draw the guests out. He was a master at putting people at ease. John loves his own loquacious erudition too much and often I want to yell at my laptop, "John, just Shut Up!" He can't distinguish between the guests who need his verbosity and those who don't.
I totally agree with Gil. Had Larry lived, he would have made a tremendous talk show host.
There will never be fine actors today like there were in the good old day's .
People like Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep are damn good actors.
They said exactly the same thing back in the '60s. Someday, these will be the good old days.
When did this business of big stars like Lucy and Hope ACTUALLY going out to theaters to promote films stop (19 theaters in two days???)? I grew up in Virginia Beach/Norfolk, and I wouldn't have expected that in our little burgh. Did the stars going in person to theaters really help the box office, and my real question is what did they do when they got there? I can't imagine George Clooney going on tour to promote a film, or even Elvis, well not to the theaters themselves. Radio and tv promotion can be done from Hollywood and in Hollywood, anyway.
I saw Bob & Lucy (around 1964) at a theatre on Long Island. Their movie The Critics Choice was playing,so they were there in person.
They promote movies differently now. It's not necessary to send the stars out to the four corners of the U.S. to promote movies anymore.
Two powerhouse legends!
I really like how the males acted like GENTLEMEN back then. Like the way the host pulls out chair for women. Sweet.
he always did
Yes, it was especially gentlemen-like when the guys in the audience whistled at the women guests...
monkeyg333 I was referring to the show members NOT the "wild New York" audience. New York is known for being WILD. But still whistling is much more respectful than rude comments or even physical assault which happens these days. Sadly the polite days of the WML era are gone. Now rudeness is the rule.
One main reason why I love the old black and white shows!!
I sympathize! Even back in 1997, call me old fashioned, but I was showing up at a singles group meeting at a restaurant and there was no seat left at the large group of tables all put together by the restaurant to accompany our group. (I had found myself in the "dating world" again, unfortunately, after a recent divorce and I was in my very early 30s. So was everyone else in their late 20s or early 30s at the table.) Well, to my great surprise and disappointment of the "gentlemen" there, not even one of them gave up his seat for me, the lady who just arrived there!! :( It forced me to make one of three choices: wait there uncomfortably until someone actually displayed his good manners, sit nearby at a table alone, or just leave out of humiliation! Please, guys, don't justify and say that maybe I was fat or unattractive; I was neither! (Even for a person who has been properly trained by his parents on good manners toward a lady, this shouldn't be an excuse!) Well, needless to say, I was sadly forced to admit that dating again might be more of a chore for me than I had suspected it would be up until that moment! Fellas, politeness goes a long way! It is, by far, the EASIEST way to instantly gain a person's respect upon very first meeting! It is also, sadly, the easiest way to make the recipient wishful for a better situation to remember! I might add that as an elementary school teacher now, I often hear both parents and teacher's comment that when a child has good manners, it is very impressive and desirable. Let's teach our children when they are young!
Lucy gave it away with her voice. Bob did a good job disguising his voice.
Intelligent shows like this wouldn’t work now.
what intelligence?
buddy hackett?
lol..these shows are just gimmicks....either they catch on or they dont
Ur right. Not enough intelligent ppl now.
Wrestle Mania. That's what people like now.
Today I learned that bread "has never been alive". Wait''ll I tell the wheat fields.
What bread is made from was alive, but bread itself is not, and has never been, alive. That said, on the show, they had some peculiar definitions. They usually did not include plants in living things, or bugs in animals.
And lobsters were fish. And whales were BOTH mammals and fish. And nobody knew what the hell worms were.
Does nobody else notice Lucy getting weird at around 18:50? Bob Hope pulls her in protectively. It's just so odd.
cas4040 I really didn't notice anything "weird", but it did seem like she was a little bored with John Daly's story at that time.
At first I was thinking she might have a headache, but is it possible that she had problems with her eyelash?
She had huge social anxiety. For all of her comic talent (to some, not so much to me), she had great difficulty with one on one interractions and small group chitchat. Not unusual with some in the comedy field -- see Johnny Carson as another example.
Echoes in the darkness
It's unusual that Bob Hope did this, unscripted. Johnny Carson hated having him as a guest, because he demanded that everything had to go off of a script when he appeared.
Wouldn't it be something if this show kept all of the celebrity signatures
*_DOG CATCHER_*
*_MAKES DIET BREAD_*
*_TESTS AND INSPECTS RIDES AT CONEY ISLAND AMUSEMENT PARK_*
Oh those Mets...
around 19:50 - RE Lucy’s response to Arlene’s question and the applauds. Lucy in 1963 starred in the first season of “The Lucy Show” - the black and white series with Lucy and Vivian living with their kids in one house in the village of Danfield, Westchester County, New York. Some now call that season that last season in spirit of “I Love Lucy.” At this point she was the leader of Desilu Productions which made multiple series and things for TV including Danny Thomas’s and Dick Van Dyke’s sitcoms. In 1962, to entice CBS to pick up all of Desilu’s proposed products, Lucy did “The Lucy Show” for CBS. However, she originally said that it would be just one season. However, CBS convinced Lucy to renew the series 6 times. The first and this upcoming second season - written by her “I Love Lucy” staff writers - were for my taste the most funny of the six.
Wow. Thanks for the 411. Very interesting!
Do you know how tall Lucy was?
2dasimmons Lucy was 5'7.
Thanks liduck52
Vivien Vance was on the show for the first two seasons. After she left the show it wasn't as funny. They replaced her with Gale Gordon and he was NOT funny. He just had one routine and it got very tiresome very quickly.
If you google Hollywood Florida Diet Bread there is a nice article about the founder, and it sort of explains her dress and charisma