Woman Murders Boyfriend on Cliff After Bizarre Cleansing Ritual | Megan Shaffer Case Analysis

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 691

  • @CrazyCatAER
    @CrazyCatAER Рік тому +194

    My grandma used to have picnics in cemeteries because she said it was so peaceful and there were a lot of pretty flowers… however, no ferrets were involved

    • @kaboomkelly
      @kaboomkelly Рік тому +29

      I love cemetery picnics, too! I knew it was weird but I didn’t know it was Get-Called-Out-By-Dr.Grande weird.

    • @CrazyCatAER
      @CrazyCatAER Рік тому +11

      @@kaboomkelly 🤣

    • @aarondavis8943
      @aarondavis8943 Рік тому +29

      Australians do this all the time. Cemeteries are peaceful places. I don't know why Americans make such a big deal over it.

    • @memecathar1263
      @memecathar1263 Рік тому +15

      We smoke drugs together in the cemetery and play cards on a big flat grave stone

    • @CrazyCatAER
      @CrazyCatAER Рік тому +7

      @@memecathar1263 munchies = picnic 🤣

  • @jimc.goodfellas
    @jimc.goodfellas Рік тому +332

    I had to do a triple take when I heard, "he transferred $180k + with her name as beneficiary"...that's a pretty big detail. How did he have this money? Why would he put it in someone's name who claimed they weren't even in a relationship? A lot we don't know here

    • @rullvox5912
      @rullvox5912 Рік тому +79

      Considering his mental issues, how did Alex ever acquire 188,000 dollars?

    • @paulblatchfordplymouth
      @paulblatchfordplymouth Рік тому +29

      Yes, most odd.

    • @TwiStedReality1313
      @TwiStedReality1313 Рік тому +47

      ​@@rullvox5912Have you not seen some of the weirdos we have as millionsires/billionaires? Couple hundred grand isn't that far fetched.

    • @gillroygarlic3616
      @gillroygarlic3616 Рік тому +48

      Probably mommy an daddy

    • @SentMyOwnWay
      @SentMyOwnWay Рік тому +57

      @@gillroygarlic3616 true but honestly that’s where 99% of people get their wealth. Pretty much every business/home owner that you know started with money from their folks.

  • @starphase1623
    @starphase1623 Рік тому +68

    After reading all the Comments , I understand that the Cat is fine . He was found by a friend and doing well . 🐈😻

    • @terryKessler42719
      @terryKessler42719 Рік тому +11

      I’m so glad to hear that the cat was ok. These 2 ding dongs deserve what they got, but the poor cat was innocent.

    • @marcellepesek3038
      @marcellepesek3038 Рік тому +4

      @starphase1623 Thank you for mentioning this, I was concerned about the poor creature too. I wish Dr. Grande
      had said something about the cat being o.k. What disturbed human beings! They shouldn't even be allowed to
      have a pet! Thank goodness someone else took care of her/him.

  • @imtired6104
    @imtired6104 Рік тому +128

    "Less thinking, more feeling." I think this is the motto of the current zeitgeist. Thank you Dr. Grande for another interesting video!

    • @hopeseekr
      @hopeseekr Рік тому

      Since 2015, we've become a civilization governed by "The Ideas that Sound Good". That is the root axiom of Woke Culture.

    • @hopeseekr
      @hopeseekr Рік тому

      The Western World is no longer governed by the People or even the Corporations. It's governed by The Managerial Class (ever since Blackrock got huge post-2012. It now controls $9.74 trillion, more than every country except China and the USA. This is the true "Deep State".

    • @drdr76
      @drdr76 Рік тому +4

      I know it is in politics.

  • @tmajcan94
    @tmajcan94 Рік тому +100

    A Dr. Grande video for a nightcap. Perfect! Only Dr. G can make a sad case of death sound relaxing. Thank you Doc!

    • @TwiStedReality1313
      @TwiStedReality1313 Рік тому +7

      That doesn't sound psychotic at all 😂😂

    • @katherinef9110
      @katherinef9110 Рік тому +5

      his bedtime stories put me right to sleep

    • @roxannespahr2804
      @roxannespahr2804 Рік тому +7

      That's so true 😂 Dr Grande's voice puts me to sleep easily...even while listening to horrific, insane cases. His voice is calming.

  • @crittercrossing2913
    @crittercrossing2913 Рік тому +84

    How bizarre can it get? My mind is baffled. I do hope the poor kitty in the carrier was rescued. Thanks Dr. Grande for analyzing this story in a clear, compelling manner. What in the world gets into some people?

    • @ALT-vz3jn
      @ALT-vz3jn Рік тому +14

      Yes, the kitty went to his parents.

  • @tinawindham6958
    @tinawindham6958 Рік тому +86

    I hope the cat didn’t freeze to death and someone kind adopted him😢🙏

    • @trace9657
      @trace9657 Рік тому +18

      I was wondering about the cat too. The poor thing was the only creature that did not choose to put itself in a stupid position.

    • @nl-ho4wm
      @nl-ho4wm Рік тому +3

      Lets hope someone adopted him

    • @trace9657
      @trace9657 Рік тому +7

      @@nl-ho4wm I read up on this a little. It was a friend of Stevens that found the car, pack, and the cat. The article said he took the cat to Stevens' parents. Hopefully, it was homed somewhere. That person also talked about how Stevens loved animals, but the year before he had also left a dog in a cage at cemetery where he used to hang out. There is no telling what he was thinking, maybe he wanted to animals to benefits from cleansing too.

    • @marcellepesek3038
      @marcellepesek3038 Рік тому +2

      @@trace9657 That's a very disturbing trend. These poor creatures can't liberate themselves. Why would he to
      this to a dog and then a cat? That's practically leaving them to die!

    • @BettiePagan
      @BettiePagan 7 місяців тому

      @@trace9657hey the ferrets are innocent until proven guilty!

  • @cyb0rgirl
    @cyb0rgirl Рік тому +59

    two completely bizarre individuals. we will probably never know what actually happened 😨

    • @roringusanda2837
      @roringusanda2837 Рік тому +6

      Could they have been high on LSD? Thinking to go out "in touch with the universe" that way??

    • @XenaXOE
      @XenaXOE Рік тому +4

      @@roringusanda2837 the LSD would’ve shown in their systems. Alexander had no drugs in his system, based off the official toxicology report.

    • @roringusanda2837
      @roringusanda2837 Рік тому +1

      @@XenaXOE ahh, I wondered if LSD would show up... thank you

    • @XenaXOE
      @XenaXOE Рік тому +5

      @@roringusanda2837 in normal drug tests, the kind employers do, LSD, psilocybin and other psychedelics aren’t normally included and tested for. However the police will include them in a more complete toxicology investigation. And you’re welcome!

  • @jenanne31
    @jenanne31 Рік тому +34

    It's just not a picnic without a ferret and a cemetery! Thanks for the entertaining videos, Dr. Grande.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Рік тому +4

      And the checkered tablecloth and ants! 🐜🐜🐜

  • @MargieM10
    @MargieM10 Рік тому +50

    But did the kitty in the carrier survive?

    • @nektulosnewbie
      @nektulosnewbie Рік тому +17

      Hope it wasn't part of that ritual. :(

    • @dorothyrohland4689
      @dorothyrohland4689 Рік тому +16

      My question also...hope the kitty survived their madness

    • @ToyInsanity
      @ToyInsanity Рік тому +16

      His friend found it. His sister and friend were looking for him before Megan called 911.

  • @EgaoKage
    @EgaoKage Рік тому +3

    I'm almost disappointed that Megan didn't blame the murder on the ferrets! That would have rounded-out this carnival of events quite nicely.

  • @allineedis1mike81
    @allineedis1mike81 Рік тому +31

    Theres so many weird drugs out there now that pathologists have to know to look for that "no drugs detected" doesn't mean much. Some of those drugs also make people weird, weirder than we usually are. And I also hope the cat was ok.😼

  • @wearytoad
    @wearytoad Рік тому +4

    I went to highschool with this girl. She was totally normal then. Participated in martial arts and won awards. Put on a presentation in front of my science class once

    • @AnthonyRusso93
      @AnthonyRusso93 26 днів тому

      I don't know how much consideration should be given to my character testimonial being merely a weightroom friend so I was not privy to anything intimate or detailed but what I do know of her immediately preceding, but she was totally normal then too in fact I would have given her a glittering character testimonial. She was extremely likable and the catalogue of her detail retention about what was just small talk I know pretending to have friendly curiosities alone means little, but because she was the initiator in her very friendliness and the manner in doing so I was under the impression it was entirely genuine. I was (at first) so thoroughly confident she could not have done it that I felt comfortable making edgy jokes to her about it I think I said one of the times that he undervalued her as a romantic prospect because "talk about a 'ride-or-die' girl you can't more ride-or-die than that!" she took very little offence to that joke notably she was not indifferent she just gave me a really calm sorta valley girl cadance'd "you are such a douchbag." It hits totally different now but that is just how confident I was in her character at the time. When I learned the actual extent of laceration on his neck, I then knew she was guilty of something, but I didn't and still do not conceive of that being murder I mean she had already had convictions for assisting in suicide in light of that murder 2 feels redundant and excessive. I think the throat injury was a coup de grâce.

  • @NikkiTrudelle
    @NikkiTrudelle Рік тому +19

    You should be the one that writes the dry quips at the beginning of CSI episodes. Yours are so much better than their writers come up with

  • @dalepointer9414
    @dalepointer9414 Рік тому +24

    Cliff hanger evaluations from Dr. Grande. The highs and lows of madness, brought to you from a calm and insightful dry humorous personality.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Рік тому +1

      Apt description of our good doctor.

  • @BigZebraCom
    @BigZebraCom Рік тому +9

    Just a reminder that "Bizarre Cleansing Ritual' was the name of Dr Grande's college smooth jazz band!

    • @kelvyquayo
      @kelvyquayo Рік тому +2

      You should hear his high school Ska Band.. ‘The Ferret Enhanced Cemetery Picnics’. 🎺 🎸

  • @manic5150
    @manic5150 Рік тому +50

    Mixing severe mental health issues with religion can sometimes become a toxic concoction of disturbing behavior.

    • @manic5150
      @manic5150 Рік тому

      @Whatapp249 SCAMMER

    • @Dr.Pancho.Tortilla
      @Dr.Pancho.Tortilla Рік тому

      Without people with severe mental problems there would be no religions

    • @marcbaigrie2295
      @marcbaigrie2295 Рік тому +3

      Mix religion with anything and it always ends up weird.

    • @spicyphilly
      @spicyphilly Рік тому +3

      I can attest to this as I have a close family member that's an untreated Schizophrenic and religious. Very "out there".

    • @dems000
      @dems000 Рік тому +1

      Yes adding delusions together leads to exponential outcomes. Adding the delusion of religion to a person's life has negative outcomes in general. Pretending doesn't actually solve problems, sadly lol.

  • @possumaintdead
    @possumaintdead Рік тому +617

    I hope the cat was okay! 🐈

  • @ceilconstante640
    @ceilconstante640 Рік тому +77

    Meghan is possiblity a highly manipulative Narscissist that talked Alex into something bizarre. It's just to weird he chose to sign his finances over to her yet tell his friends he had other ambitions. Struggling with alcohol possibly made it easier for him to be manipulated.

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 Рік тому +2

      It sounds like he was mentally ill if he thought he was the messiah.

    • @ceilconstante640
      @ceilconstante640 Рік тому

      @@johnnyearp52 some drugs do that to people besides mental illness.

    • @JackIsNotInTheBox
      @JackIsNotInTheBox Рік тому +2

      Doesn’t matter because she’s cute 🥰

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 Рік тому +2

      @@JackIsNotInTheBox 🤢

  • @melaninqueen707
    @melaninqueen707 Рік тому +35

    I just love this guy. So calm but absolutely hilarious. I remember the video on Jussie “Foot Long” Smollett and I was on the floor. Much respect 😂😂😂

  • @kellydean3497
    @kellydean3497 Рік тому +3

    I used to go to High Rock all the time in my early twenties. My girl friend and I would park our car at the bottom and walk up in the dark, avoiding the military surveillance. People used to use the platform as a hang gliding launch. It had an amazing view of the stars and was very peaceful both day, and night.
    What a horrible curse on that place now.

    • @Scipio_Americanus
      @Scipio_Americanus 7 місяців тому

      No one cares big girl. You're not the main character.🙄

  • @lisabelle7553
    @lisabelle7553 Рік тому +37

    What happened to the poor cat?!

    • @jomccutcheon2173
      @jomccutcheon2173 Рік тому +18

      I am concerned about the kitty too, maybe the police found the kitty, I hope so,,,

    • @ToyInsanity
      @ToyInsanity Рік тому +5

      His friend Steven found it

    • @SpitefulAZ
      @SpitefulAZ Рік тому +2

      Cat is drinking piña coladas in Mexico thinking about how they got away with murder. 😂

  • @dicedrice7216
    @dicedrice7216 Рік тому +10

    Taking ferrets out for a picnic. What a thoughtful considerate guy

  • @OneMeanArtist
    @OneMeanArtist Рік тому +16

    Psychedelics are definitely not something to be trifled with, that's for sure... esp. w/ serious pre-existing mental health issues. Tripping definitely shouldn't involve cliffs and coming down shouldn't involve knives. You could say her story didn't pass w/ flying colors.

    • @janinemccartha1811
      @janinemccartha1811 Рік тому

      Hi Dr. Grande. Thanks for your interesting videos. Megan is the flipside of the new Megan movie/artificial intelligence doll. The doll murdered bad people, she murdered a good guy. Peace to you & yours, love, Janine Smiley✌😏😉😍🤩😎🆒️💯❕❗

  • @glendasully
    @glendasully Рік тому +8

    Such a bizarre story. She deserves the 30 yr sentence

  • @LeftyBlue
    @LeftyBlue Рік тому +14

    Yes but what happened to the cat in the carrier?

    • @cail171
      @cail171 Рік тому +10

      Love that I'm not the only one worried about the poor kitty.

  • @roxannespahr2804
    @roxannespahr2804 Рік тому +91

    Listening to these cases Dr. Grande covers both scares and intrigues me. And also makes me realize how boring of a person I really am...my goodness people do some odd, horrific and unimaginable things to each other in this world...I am grateful to be just a normal, boring person 😂

    • @matthew.m.stevick
      @matthew.m.stevick Рік тому +9

      I agree 100% and this comment was the point of Cohen Brother’s classic film “Fargo”.

    • @jodybrown4956
      @jodybrown4956 Рік тому

      Surprised Magical demon Marijuana was not at the heart of this loss of life mind altering drugs seemingly play role in Great % of lives being lost Particularly People acquainted with one another crazy humanoids anyway .

    • @roxannespahr2804
      @roxannespahr2804 Рік тому +2

      @@matthew.m.stevick I have never seen the movie but I have heard of it...I have a perception of North Dakota as being a desolate, freeeeezing cold place with small diners and not many people...Alaska and North Dakota have always been 2 states I think I'd never want to live in. I've traveled the entire the us since I was 10 and always felt North Dakota had a gloominess over it. No offense to any North Dakotans...just my perception.

    • @roxannespahr2804
      @roxannespahr2804 Рік тому +2

      @@matthew.m.stevick I don't think I'll ever understand how one human can hurt another, let alone take a person's life. I've always only wanted to help anyone and everyone I could since I can remember...grateful that lll never be the star in one of Dr. Grande's videos as someone who has hurt another person. 😂

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 Рік тому +2

      I am not normal or boring but I want my life to be boring.

  • @christinaslocum8761
    @christinaslocum8761 Рік тому +10

    Picnics with Ferets 🤣 Good name for a band!

  • @jamese8508
    @jamese8508 Рік тому +2

    When I started watching this video, I had playback speed set high from the previous video I was watching. Oh, it sounded so wrong!! I would never do that to Dr. Grande! His deliberate, reasoned pace is such an important part of his presentation, and indeed, of who he is.

  • @mEnTL32
    @mEnTL32 Рік тому +79

    Doesn't it seem more like a suicide-pact situation? Dousing the car, shed clothes, etc.

    • @makeshift_battlefield_music
      @makeshift_battlefield_music Рік тому +14

      If that was the case and I had to choose which of the two was the instigator in such a hypothetical situation, Megan would be the one to escalate Alex's already unstable state of mind. Their pairing was unwise in hindsight, but some personalities are drawn together to disastrous consequences. It is a fact of life

    • @olilumgbalu5653
      @olilumgbalu5653 Рік тому +4

      "Their pairing was unwise in hindsight, but some personalities are drawn together to disastrous consequences."
      Right? They could easily have been a "natural born killers" type couple.

    • @CardsFan6969
      @CardsFan6969 Рік тому +2

      I am shocked she didn't claim self-defense; i am shocked she didn't claim he wanted to kill them both so she had to kill him instead.

    • @lf9341
      @lf9341 Рік тому +1

      No because he would have left his money to someone else.

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 Рік тому +4

      I wondered about a suicide pact as well.

  • @dorothyrohland4689
    @dorothyrohland4689 Рік тому +11

    I ask the same question...what happened to the cat?

  • @Meenadevidasi
    @Meenadevidasi Рік тому +12

    Thank you so much for daily doses of "reality check" But I have to ask, "How are you able to keep your own sanity seeing and analyzing all this madness?" Praying for your well-being. ♥

    • @GeekyShyMama
      @GeekyShyMama Рік тому +2

      By being sarcastic, it helps a lot, trust me.

  • @traceyseltzer2157
    @traceyseltzer2157 Рік тому +7

    What happened to the cat?

  • @TimPerfetto
    @TimPerfetto Рік тому +5

    He said they were not technically dating -- calling card of someone who cant get rid of a psycho with a personality disorder

    • @Scipio_Americanus
      @Scipio_Americanus 7 місяців тому

      Yet she ended up being the murderous psychopath.

  • @jan9659
    @jan9659 Рік тому +6

    I care more about that poor innocent cat than I do 2 big dumbazzes

  • @scientistsalarian480
    @scientistsalarian480 Рік тому +36

    Sounds more to me like maybe they were planning some ritualistic double suicide and she either got cold feet or just didn't die from the fall. Then after he was severely wounded she killed him. Who knows though this situation is crazy

    • @vicvega3614
      @vicvega3614 Рік тому +4

      Why wouldn't she just leave? He wouldve died from exposure anyways, either way she killed him and deserves prison

    • @aldranzam3456
      @aldranzam3456 Рік тому

      @@vicvega3614 True. But I hope she's also getting therapy in prison and she can recover from her obvious disturbed state...

    • @jackwilson5542
      @jackwilson5542 Рік тому

      Exactly what I was thinking.

  • @marshmoreland8365
    @marshmoreland8365 Рік тому +5

    Incisive easy listening, insightful criticism, opinions & observation, puns a "dad joke" would disown, wild dead pan wit -infrequently hilarious, clang-associative structured poetically ironic summaries, and absolutely freakish situational awareness & self-awareness inestimably beyond "normal" scales such as what may be considered adept and inept. Todd Grande is my favorite show. If I could add anything to success I would suggest study and practice humility and being humble.

  • @abigailh7715
    @abigailh7715 Рік тому +34

    I only hope the cat was rescued and placed with sane loving people

    • @MeganVictoriaKearns
      @MeganVictoriaKearns Рік тому +3

      Good news! ❤ Kitty is safe and sound and has a new family! 🐈

  • @ponli7532
    @ponli7532 Рік тому +3

    "picnics with ferrets" made me laugh so hard.

  • @MooseCracker
    @MooseCracker Рік тому +9

    Damn, there go my plans to get naked on a cliff in freezing temperatures.

  • @thelocalmaladroit8873
    @thelocalmaladroit8873 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the bizarre tale Doc and congratulations on 1.3 million subs.

  • @TheJanicemorris
    @TheJanicemorris Рік тому +25

    You're the best, Dr. Grande. Was the cat okay?

    • @cail171
      @cail171 Рік тому +12

      Curious about the cat too

    • @ashleysmith5001
      @ashleysmith5001 Рік тому +8

      I wonder if he was going to sacrifice it? It's very odd. I hope the cat was okay, it probably was because they found his body fast.

    • @andykerr3803
      @andykerr3803 Рік тому +4

      Was it even their cat?
      We're they sacrificing a black cat?
      Somehow, it seems she may have had help.

    • @azulgaia7782
      @azulgaia7782 Рік тому +4

      Cat got rescued, apparently.

    • @andykerr3803
      @andykerr3803 Рік тому +2

      @@azulgaia7782 👍 It could not have been there for any good reason. You wonder what happened to the ferrets...

  • @dogdefender6946
    @dogdefender6946 Рік тому +8

    Ferret enhanced picnics!! My favorite line today!!
    Thank you for your extra dry sense of humor!!
    It is the elixir the world needs! 🏆

  • @TheCvr92
    @TheCvr92 Рік тому +4

    Dr. Grande! I love your videos.. informative, insightful, calming voice and the best dry humor

  • @rullvox5912
    @rullvox5912 Рік тому +13

    Considering his mental issues, how did Alex ever acquire 188,000 dollars?

    • @ToyInsanity
      @ToyInsanity Рік тому +3

      He inherited it from a deceased aunt

    • @applepie9576
      @applepie9576 Рік тому

      ​@traybernNo, Alex was murdered and she was convicted.

    • @rullvox5912
      @rullvox5912 Рік тому

      @@ToyInsanity ..Bounce, twiggy.

  • @localbod
    @localbod Рік тому +1

    'Picnic With Ferrets' would make such a good short story title.

  • @mrparlanejxtra
    @mrparlanejxtra Рік тому +3

    1,300,000 subscribers as at today. Well done.

  • @boowho9990
    @boowho9990 Рік тому +1

    Dr Grande, I LOVE YOU! Keep up the interesting content... love the quick quips... well placed

  • @manewland1
    @manewland1 Рік тому +2

    Glad to wake up to another of your videos, first thing in the morning. Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande!

  • @bsangel93
    @bsangel93 Рік тому +4

    Seems like they both had a hand in Alex’s demise. In the end, even if a person WANTS you to kill them, you are still liable for their death. Maybe it was even a double suicide gone wrong? What a bizarre crime.

  • @ecom2320
    @ecom2320 Рік тому +4

    I recently found your YT channel and was blown away by this story because this is the same area where I’m from. Pretty cool to hear neighboring towns where I grew up. Also very relaxing which is what drew me in 😅

  • @BlstFrmThPst
    @BlstFrmThPst Рік тому +4

    Earliest I’ve been to one of your videos. Found you a week ago and been binge watching since. Keep up the great content!

  • @wanderingjackwolf9510
    @wanderingjackwolf9510 Рік тому +1

    Picnics in cemeteries with ferrets...that is nuts.
    I mean, squirrels- MAYBE.

  • @WhoIsWhatIDK
    @WhoIsWhatIDK Рік тому +5

    Ferret enhanced picnics….

  • @yvehooson9262
    @yvehooson9262 Рік тому +6

    But, seriously, what happened to the cat???

  • @azulgaia7782
    @azulgaia7782 Рік тому +2

    Hey! What's wrong with taking your ferrets to a cemetery picnic! Spookily delightful!

  • @AlisNinsky
    @AlisNinsky Рік тому +10

    Does anyone know if the cat was ok?

  • @elizabethwarman9028
    @elizabethwarman9028 Рік тому +1

    Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. What a bizarre case. As always I learn something new from your videos.
    Have a wonderful Memorial weekend.

  • @douchecraft3113
    @douchecraft3113 Рік тому +51

    If she smiled at her family it's because she's being deceptive! Or maybe she just found a moment of comfort seeing them there to support her?
    Always weirds me out when the jury draws conclusions based on the emotional state of the defendant....

    • @roxannespahr2804
      @roxannespahr2804 Рік тому +12

      I thought that VERY thing when that was stated. I thought to myself how does anyone know if it was a smirk as if she was saying she just manipulated the jury with her wonderful acting...or could it have been when she saw her family she just felt the need to smile since she sought comfort in them? That seems like a more plausible explanation...I too am not comfortable with the way police and juries make crucial judgements based on people's reactions in traumatic situations.

    • @Bloodbain88
      @Bloodbain88 Рік тому +7

      Like when investigators are suspicious of a person because they don't seem upset when they find or are informed of a loved one's death.
      Some people don't show emotions to others much. I could come home and find everyone dead, and I would be deadpan while the police and first responders were there. I would only break when alone. So under this logic I would appear suspicious..

    • @fragrancememoir2350
      @fragrancememoir2350 Рік тому +1

      I thought about that as well (it could've just been the extreme stress & nervousness). .. but maybe that was their suspicion because of their overall perception of her... Dr G mentioned that the jury didn't buy her testimony either. ... Sometimes people make the wrong conclusions.. but what's also true is that most jurors/people can generally smell bullsh*t 🤷 (it's hard to say without watching the whole trial ourselves).

    • @38201013
      @38201013 Рік тому +5

      ​@@Bloodbain88 same. I exhibit emotionless responses. Some people find me suspicious of things sometimes because of that. But like you, I do have emotions, but like to express them in private. It's just the way I am.
      Do you encounter people treating you suspiciously sometimes? Just curious.

    • @Bloodbain88
      @Bloodbain88 Рік тому +3

      @@38201013 Not really suspiciously, but I get the feeling sometimes that people feel awkward around me, because I don't feel the need to constantly talk.
      I've had people think I was angry because I wasn't saying much.

  • @kennyg1358
    @kennyg1358 11 місяців тому +1

    For everyone wondering; the cat was eaten by a coyote, Male, 3 years old. He's currently doing 15 months to life for catslaughter.

  • @stt5v2002
    @stt5v2002 Рік тому +6

    Not convinced she’s guilty of second-degree murder? The good doctor might be losing his edge. I think that the part where she sawed his head off was the convincing part. I guess I can’t be exactly sure how he fell off the cliff, but then she tried to saw his head off. I doubt that was a random head sawing offing opportunity She does not dispute that she was wielding the knife. There is absolutely no reason to think anyone else was in the area. Again, the key fact seems to be the undisputed sawing offing.

  • @lisagorman3462
    @lisagorman3462 Рік тому +5

    Oh my goodness two totally bizarre people, I know Alexs death is not funny but I really did have to laugh about picnicking with ferrets in a cemetery 😅 and meghan saying her finger prints might be on the knife 😮
    Love your videos Dr Grande ❤ always clear, informative and funny 😂

  • @mirandajsummers
    @mirandajsummers Рік тому +4

    Yeah, but was the cat ok?

  • @matthew.m.stevick
    @matthew.m.stevick Рік тому +25

    Dr. Grande is a UA-cam legend. Now moving to my only critique. Dr. Grande needs to make more New Jersey Jokes. This is only my opinion, I’m not diagnosing him for the lack of New Jersey jokes.

    • @kevinc809
      @kevinc809 Рік тому +1

      New Jersey is a beautiful state. Except near the airport.

    • @lostandfound5145
      @lostandfound5145 Рік тому +1

      @@kevinc809 everywhere in NJ is near an airport 😂

    • @kevinc809
      @kevinc809 Рік тому +1

      @@lostandfound5145 Sure it is.

    • @lostandfound5145
      @lostandfound5145 Рік тому +1

      @@kevinc809 I lived there for 10 yrs. You’re always within 2 hours’ drive of an international airport

    • @kevinc809
      @kevinc809 Рік тому

      @@lostandfound5145 So that's like 100 miles? If you lived in NJ then you know other than the area around Newark and Camden/Trenton is a beautiful place. Better than most states. But if you like the lame NJ jokes that aren't funny I'm happy. I'm here to learn about crime cases myself. I don't find the lame NJ cheapsots insulting, just ignorant and baseless., therefore not funny. I'm writing this while looking at the Ocean out the window of my 1.8 million dollar NJ home. Just so awful here. Wish I lived in like Ohio or Minnesota or somewhere nice. Like Tampa. Think I'll move to Tampa.

  • @user-cs1un6sp1wRennata
    @user-cs1un6sp1wRennata Рік тому +1

    Brilliant as always! Thank you Dr.Grande!

  • @redbirddeerjazz
    @redbirddeerjazz Рік тому +1

    I don’t think it’s unusual to enjoy picnics in cemeteries with ferrets. That sounds like a great time to me.

  • @jerichoharperjmc6277
    @jerichoharperjmc6277 Рік тому +3

    Lovely voice. Listen to Dr g almost every night while I zzzzzz

  • @sophiaisabelle01
    @sophiaisabelle01 Рік тому +1

    We appreciate your dedication and consistency. God bless you

  • @45kimmyb
    @45kimmyb Рік тому +6

    This happened in my neck of the woods, I live between Cumberland and Frostburg. It is my belief that she killed him for the money. I think she planned the whole thing, the hike, the weird ceremony all if it including killing him that day. She played on his desire to be more "spiritual" luring him to his death and helping him on that journey.

    • @snow999
      @snow999 Рік тому +1

      My daughter went to Frostburg 🥶. I can’t imagine how cold the temp actually felt like!

    • @kennyg1358
      @kennyg1358 11 місяців тому

      That sounded planned to you?

    • @tlouise6
      @tlouise6 8 місяців тому

      She was saludictorian of my hs class. She wouldn’t have killed someone over that amount of money.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 Рік тому +4

    What a bizarre case. I have a feeling that they might have engaged in some strange ritual that resulted in this.
    Happy Friday, Dr. Grande!❤
    Also, congratulations on 1.3 M subscribers.✨💐✨

  • @michellelively202
    @michellelively202 Рік тому +1

    Look at her eyes. !!
    “I’m not diagnosing - just speculating. “

    • @7Nebulae7
      @7Nebulae7 Рік тому +1

      It's the same dead look of a psychopath that Erin Caffey also has.

  • @MothmanLurking
    @MothmanLurking Рік тому +6

    I hope the cats alright.

  • @Flamsterette
    @Flamsterette Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande.

  • @roringusanda2837
    @roringusanda2837 Рік тому +3

    THE CAT! Dr. Grande, THE CAT?!!
    If it had been a cactus, 🌵 you would have told us already...

    • @terryKessler42719
      @terryKessler42719 Рік тому

      He’s keeping the whereabouts of the cat a secret. Perhaps it’s in the witness protection program.

  • @ReSearcherSusie
    @ReSearcherSusie Рік тому +5

    Whoa! 😮 This has similarities to the Ezra McCandless case. 😢

  • @ck9436
    @ck9436 Рік тому +5

    But did the cat in the carrier survive??

  • @tessaducek5601
    @tessaducek5601 Рік тому +5

    What about the kitty???

  • @ValkyrieofNOLA
    @ValkyrieofNOLA Рік тому +1

    The act of slicing one’s throat is horrific! I saw a video of the journalist who was beheaded by middle eastern terrorists in Afghanistan or Iraq during the US’s armed conflicts in the early 2000’s. The video was posted on UA-cam by the insurgents, and the first few minutes were shown on the news. The sound of the man aspirating from his throat being cut was so unsettling that it haunts me to this day. You couldn’t see the actual violent scene, but the sound was audible for just a moment, then it cut to the image of the man’s head placed on his chest.
    All that being said, the likelihood of someone doing this to themselves is infinitesimally low… I think the girlfriend did it, who knows why… It’s sickening to imagine that someone would be capable of such violence and gore.

  • @boldANDcontrolled
    @boldANDcontrolled Рік тому +1

    Hypothermia can onset quickly, I have really bad circulation and can have it come through in 45 minutes once anything gets wet and that could be sweat… I don’t think the fact this chick was suffering from hypothermia means she didn’t try to kill him at all, could just show poor planning and lack of experience with being in nature…

  • @Wonkyslush000
    @Wonkyslush000 Рік тому +1

    I recommend the Appalachian Mysteria podcast they did a whole series on this case

  • @btetschner
    @btetschner Рік тому +1

    They might have been the type of people that liked to explore unusual philosophical ideas and systems.
    She probably would have been free if she didn't change her story, but I imagine that she became stressed realizing there were holes in it.
    They might have just liked doing unusual things.

  • @itsthefritz6426
    @itsthefritz6426 Рік тому +1

    "ferret enhanced cemetery picnics" 😂😂

  • @amstarla
    @amstarla Рік тому +2

    I feel like the cacti are breeding in the background because there's more and more each video❤️👍👍

  • @peterolbrisch8970
    @peterolbrisch8970 Рік тому +2

    If I said it once, I've said it a thousand times, never go anywhere high for the "view", unless the place you want to "view" is where you die.

  • @mcnultyssobercompanion6372
    @mcnultyssobercompanion6372 Рік тому +3

    I agree with the good doctor's theory, I think that sounds very likely. I'm also wondering if it was possibly a mercy killing. Perhaps she found him so horribly wounded at the bottom of the cliff- and his suffering was so great- killing was- she felt- her only option.
    A;ways be wary of individuals who practice ferret-enhanced picnics.

  • @tamrashafer7373
    @tamrashafer7373 Рік тому +5

    What happened to the cat? 1:49

  • @Aware_Bear
    @Aware_Bear Рік тому +5

    Is the cat okay?

  • @EyeLean5280
    @EyeLean5280 Рік тому +3

    If this were just murder, there wouldn't have been any weird behavior leading up to the incident. She would have just lured him out to go hiking and then pushed him off the cliff. If that failed she might have followed up by striking him with a rock to make his wounds look consistent. But it sounds more to me like they had a suicide pact and she chickened out after helping him die, and then afterward tried to get away with her part in it altogether.

  • @Big_Tex
    @Big_Tex Рік тому +15

    How did that weirdo get into the Coast Guard Academy in the first place?

    • @aarondavis8943
      @aarondavis8943 Рік тому +5

      You mean the Coast Guard which is already full of people who believe a carpenter from the first century will come back to save them from his father's reign of destruction? Yeah he must have really stood out.

    • @lostandfound5145
      @lostandfound5145 Рік тому +1

      @@aarondavis8943 you genuinely believe that every Christian ever is an idiot? Ok…

    • @olilumgbalu5653
      @olilumgbalu5653 Рік тому

      @Aaron Davis Is it a requirement to be a Christian in order to be in the Coast Guard?

  • @JMartNotKMart
    @JMartNotKMart 2 місяці тому

    From Cumberland, MD. Still baffles me to this day.

  • @MrLewbaugh
    @MrLewbaugh 3 місяці тому

    This was in my home town ..I hike to high rock several times a year..Alex's father was one of my teachers growing up.. this whole story only leaves more questions than answers..only 1 person truly knows what happened that night

  • @megatherion2695
    @megatherion2695 Рік тому +1

    Good one, Doc! Thanks!

  • @marcellepesek3038
    @marcellepesek3038 Рік тому +1

    A most disturbing story! What is going on in the minds of people? Why did they bring along the poor cat and leave it in a carrier?
    A lot of other commentators also wondered about that. I wish you had mentioned that Alex's friend Stephen found the kitty and
    brought it to Alex' parents. I understand the little one was re-homed. Another viewer wrote that Alex had also left a dog once at
    a cemetery in a carrier! Why?! The innocent animals can't defend or free themselves. The whole thing is sad and worrying.

  • @AxelordSMIJES
    @AxelordSMIJES Рік тому +3

    Ooooh, I hope the kitty is okay!

  • @martindrew3513
    @martindrew3513 Рік тому +1

    So long as the bungalow is empty, we are king and queen of the garden. Rudyard Kipling

  • @JAYDUBYAH29
    @JAYDUBYAH29 Рік тому +2

    I keep feeling you were even more prickly than usual Dr. Grande…

  • @cathybaldry7822
    @cathybaldry7822 Рік тому +10

    Lots of bizarre behaviour in this one. I'm sure the detectives were astonished at the oddness of the case at times

  • @SkySpiral8
    @SkySpiral8 Рік тому +3

    Can you cover the recent case of Aderrien Murphy, an 11-year old Mississippi boy who was shot in the chest by a cop after he called the police to his home because his mother was involved in a domestic violence situation?

  • @Xiampartyboyx
    @Xiampartyboyx Рік тому +2

    How you gonna look like Meg, Harry Potter and the ring at the same time! 🚩🚩🚩

  • @wolfsta90
    @wolfsta90 Рік тому +3

    Your theory at the end made me think it was no doubt a straight up murder. Not manslaughter.