Thank you so much for your comment. I strive to create videos that help people - and videos that would’ve helped me when I was in trouble along time ago.
To wife: he's working through the stages of grief. I guarantee you weren't complaining when you were spending his money. - I did 3 yrs fed, still happily married
You’re goddamn, right they all do and then when the party’s over they complain, and I have first-hand experience of this having just got out after doing a 10 year sentence
on pretrial I was depressed , the 60 days between sentancing and self surrender was even worse. After release it took a year to readjust and get myself together, but now I have never been better! Hang in there! It only gets better from here!
Oh I hear you man. On pretrial in NYC it seemed like the marshals were taking someone into custody every time I was there. You can't help but think, am I next? And the incessant questions and degradation. Believe me I get it. I was on for a spell....but on the other side I made sure I got out of that halfway house as quickly as possible.
What happens to repeat offenders of white-collar crime? Say an individual and his company have previously had a judgment levied by the FTC then is the subject of an investigation.
Getting sentenced to nearly 4 years in federal prison is a daunting experience. The wife is scared like everyone else in the family. The loss of income, the loss of status, the shame attached to going to jail, losing societal privileges like voting, being forevermore known as a federal convict, losing your standing in the community because once you were a big shot and now you are "John R Dog Poo" is really heavy and all of this rolled together is something the entire family processes. This is a family experience because once the defendant goes behind bars he is useless to the family in terms of assisting with matters. He'll serve most of his 47 months and maybe months shaved off in a half way house.
I knew exactly what I was doing and kept explicit records. It took 10 yrs before being caught. I was offered 15 years probation but could not go to trial or take my chances at trial prison 30 yrs. Note all funds had been repaid prior to my sentencing. Took the deal. Worst time of my life. When I realized job opportunities were demeaning. You get tired of trying and hearing NO. I decided to go back to school different degree. Seven years later I’m doing ok. No I don’t play golf at the club anymore or engage with my prior social groups. The FRIENDS I now have and those that stayed by me are wonderful. I like myself again, have a little funds to fun items again. I didn’t lose my house or my family. Yes, grieving is a good analogy, you “die” there is physical pain and depression. I spent 2 months in bed in the dark.
I don't believe for one moment that this clown's behavior is anything new. Could it be that maybe.... just maybe.... his attitude and arrogance are part of why he's headed to prison in the first place? That's the example he's setting for his children. 😮😮
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial Well Justin, it may seem "dumb" to you, but I've never had to go to prison, I haven't had to explain to my clients or my family why I betrayed their trust, and I'm not the one facing a prison sentence. I have spent enough time (>20 years) working and dealing with dysfunctional people and families, as well as working with newly released inmates from the Texas prison system, to know that the rude and unwarranted things he said to you aren't because of any momentary lapses in judgment or temper. His conversation with you clearly reflects established patterns of arrogance and misconduct. We come from different backgrounds, and we have different life stories to tell. I applaud you for the work you're doing, and the successes you've helped your clients realize. You, on the other hand, have absolutely no knowledge of what I've done to help released inmates successfully complete their time on parole, or to help families of incarcerated men. In Texas, with our prisons for profits system, our extremely conservative political environment, and our state's refusal to fund mental health, the parole system is largely geared to cause inmates to fail. It gives the "lock'em up and throw away the key" politicians fodder to play on, the voters love it, and it keeps our prison industrial complex flush with inventory. What it fails to do is to reduce recidivism. To quote the great educational advocate, Horace Mann, "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity." I've had plenty of failures through the years, but like you, I have also had some successes in my work. Like you, I can't save people from themselves if they're bent on self-destruction. Unlike you, the people I serve are mostly lacking in education, job skills that will allow them to sustain themselves or their families, and very few of them come from intact or functional families. Many were born addicted to crack, meth, and other drugs. They've had no one to set a proper example for them. I have been around the block a couple of times, (I'm a couple of decades and a few years older than you) and based upon my education, training, and experience, I can say that people like this man don't believe that the law, or the rules that govern a society in the world of business, the workplace, or in their personal lives apply to them. I once worked for a man who mirrors this man's arrogance. He amassed a small fortune in just a few years. He was President and CEO of one of the fastest growing companies in the state..... and then went on to lose everything he had, including his marriage. When his troubles became apparent, he thought he could hire the best criminal defense lawyers, including a former county DA to get him out of trouble. To their credit, his lawyers negotiated a deal that would have cost him about $450K in fines and civil penalties, as well as forfeiture of some assets. Their deal would have barred him from engaging in certain lines of business, while avoiding a criminal conviction and keeping him out of prison. Still convinced that the rules didn't apply to him, he violated agreements pertaining to forfeiture of assets. With his money gone, he had to rely upon public defenders to deal with his new troubles. They worked out another plea deal for him, but in the end, he pled guilty to federal crimes, he now owed the government over $150million, and he went on to spend three years in a federal camp. He went in right about the time you got out. On his day of sentencing, his only tears were for himself. And no, he didn't think he'd done anything so terribly wrong, either. Like this man you speak of, he did nothing to help himself. Like this man, he blamed everyone but himself, including his public defenders for his troubles. His sons grew up believing that they were also above having to follow the rules of society, whether it be matters of law, the workplace, or in their everyday lives. Up to that time, their father dealt with their troubles by hiring lawyers and by intimidating people. Why? Because of the examples their father set for them. And when their father's crimes caught up with him and all of his family's money, their homes, and their cars (including their oldest teenage son's NEW Cadillac Escalade) were all gone, they were completely lost. Their dad could no longer threaten or fire anyone. They had no one to show them the right way. This guy clearly isn't used to being held accountable for his actions. Clearly, he doesn't tolerate anyone telling him he's wrong. And in watching your vid, what I see are similar patterns of thinking and behaving. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you, but I invite you to explain why you find my observation sand comments to be" dumb". If you choose to respond, I can assure you that our discourse will be civil, at least on my end. I am disappointed by your lack of civility. As the Late, Great Speaker of The House, Sam Rayburn, (D-Tx.) admonished his collogues on both sides of the political aisles, "Disagree without being disagreeable." I'm further saddened by your response because I've recommended that people who are in trouble with the law, whether it be at the county, state, or federal level tune into your WCA and Prison Professor vids. I've also recommended that families of inmates, and newly released inmates watch your vids as well, because they offer ideas and ways of thinking needed to help them start building their lives. I'm an advocate of people learning to accept responsibility for their actions, proactively working to mitigate their sentences, and starting to work on a release plan from the outset. Unlike you, the families and parolees I work with are, without exception, all very poor and they simply don't have the money to pay for your services. I realize you do some pro-bono and sliding scale work, but if I referred them to you, all you would get from them would be requests for free services. The people I help have trouble paying their monthly parole fees. I've spent plenty of my own money helping them. If you would rather that I not recommend your videos, just let me know. Based upon what you have communicated in this vid, and if I'm understanding you correctly, you're having to prod his man to so much as go through the motions of helping himself. If he isn't interested in getting his elbows dirty and REALLY doing the work, then you may be able to help his family cope with their situation, but I don't think you can help him. I won't apologize for my judgmental tone in my initial reply to you. This man's behavior is absolutely foolish. Education and success in life can't save someone like this man from himself. IMO, that makes him a fool. What REALLY torques me is that this man is throwing away opportunities that the people I serve would give anything to have had. One more thing, Justin. I understand that your focus here is on getting people facing prison at any level to get serious about doing the necessary work and shifting their paradigms. When you spoke of the frustrations this man's family is experiencing, my focus shifted to proper parenting. Speaking as a father who has had to work extremely hard at breaking the patterns of dysfunctionalism that I grew up with, I can state quite emphatically that parents can preach, and parents can teach.... But in the end, children learn from the examples their parents set. After all is said and done, the losses here WILL involve this man's children. Just look at the example this man is setting. I hope they learn the lessons their father should have learned long before now and should have been teaching them over the years. You said it yourself, "Your children are watching." in my experience, ultimately, it's the children who suffer the most. So, if this sounds dumb to you, that's really sad.
I subscribe to way too many ridiculous channels. I love your videos. Hope to never have to use them but I love watching. A+
Thank you so much for your comment. I strive to create videos that help people - and videos that would’ve helped me when I was in trouble along time ago.
To wife: he's working through the stages of grief. I guarantee you weren't complaining when you were spending his money.
- I did 3 yrs fed, still happily married
Completely inappropriate response. You need to dial down the ignorance and judgment.
@@tod3msn I took your counsel and edited my comment.
You’re goddamn, right they all do and then when the party’s over they complain, and I have first-hand experience of this having just got out after doing a 10 year sentence
@@TucsonPete1028 I did 3 yrs for stealing 2.5m. What was your crime?
😂😂😂
Interesting video. Appreciate what you do. Thanks, Justin!
Love your channel!! Thank you.
Personally, I like the voice of the guy on those podcasts. Great content as always Justin.
Thank you!
on pretrial I was depressed , the 60 days between sentancing and self surrender was even worse. After release it took a year to readjust and get myself together, but now I have never been better! Hang in there! It only gets better from here!
Oh I hear you man. On pretrial in NYC it seemed like the marshals were taking someone into custody every time I was there. You can't help but think, am I next? And the incessant questions and degradation. Believe me I get it. I was on for a spell....but on the other side I made sure I got out of that halfway house as quickly as possible.
Thanks for sharing. Happy things are going well for you!!
What happens to repeat offenders of white-collar crime? Say an individual and his company have previously had a judgment levied by the FTC then is the subject of an investigation.
Great content thanks.
You’re welcome. Thank you.
Justin where is the SBF video
I wonder if he’s going to discuss it in the documentary he mentioned? Seriously though, where is the SBF video, Justin?!
Getting sentenced to nearly 4 years in federal prison is a daunting experience. The wife is scared like everyone else in the family. The loss of income, the loss of status, the shame attached to going to jail, losing societal privileges like voting, being forevermore known as a federal convict, losing your standing in the community because once you were a big shot and now you are "John R Dog Poo" is really heavy and all of this rolled together is something the entire family processes. This is a family experience because once the defendant goes behind bars he is useless to the family in terms of assisting with matters. He'll serve most of his 47 months and maybe months shaved off in a half way house.
it just proves the enormous amount of victims. multiple families involved, friends, coworkers...
I knew exactly what I was doing and kept explicit records. It took 10 yrs before being caught. I was offered 15 years probation but could not go to trial or take my chances at trial prison 30 yrs. Note all funds had been repaid prior to my sentencing. Took the deal. Worst time of my life. When I realized job opportunities were demeaning. You get tired of trying and hearing NO. I decided to go back to school different degree. Seven years later I’m doing ok. No I don’t play golf at the club anymore or engage with my prior social groups. The FRIENDS I now have and those that stayed by me are wonderful. I like myself again, have a little funds to fun items again. I didn’t lose my house or my family. Yes, grieving is a good analogy, you “die” there is physical pain and depression. I spent 2 months in bed in the dark.
@@TheOtherSideoftheHill
You didn't lose any friends. They were never your friends in the first place. If they were they would be there now.
Great videos as always. Will you be doing a podcast on the SBF trial? I don't get to You Tube very often. Thanks!
Thank you. I’m doing a video soon on SBF-but a slightly take you’ll like.
Wow wish you had been around 7 years ago
I was here!!
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial I was crawling out of my depressing. Keep it up please. There are time I fight demons and need to be reminded I'm ok
I don't believe for one moment that this clown's behavior is anything new. Could it be that maybe.... just maybe.... his attitude and arrogance are part of why he's headed to prison in the first place? That's the example he's setting for his children. 😮😮
You leave the dumbest comments-for years now.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial Well Justin, it may seem "dumb" to you, but I've never had to go to prison, I haven't had to explain to my clients or my family why I betrayed their trust, and I'm not the one facing a prison sentence. I have spent enough time (>20 years) working and dealing with dysfunctional people and families, as well as working with newly released inmates from the Texas prison system, to know that the rude and unwarranted things he said to you aren't because of any momentary lapses in judgment or temper. His conversation with you clearly reflects established patterns of arrogance and misconduct.
We come from different backgrounds, and we have different life stories to tell. I applaud you for the work you're doing, and the successes you've helped your clients realize. You, on the other hand, have absolutely no knowledge of what I've done to help released inmates successfully complete their time on parole, or to help families of incarcerated men. In Texas, with our prisons for profits system, our extremely conservative political environment, and our state's refusal to fund mental health, the parole system is largely geared to cause inmates to fail. It gives the "lock'em up and throw away the key" politicians fodder to play on, the voters love it, and it keeps our prison industrial complex flush with inventory. What it fails to do is to reduce recidivism. To quote the great educational advocate, Horace Mann, "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity." I've had plenty of failures through the years, but like you, I have also had some successes in my work. Like you, I can't save people from themselves if they're bent on self-destruction. Unlike you, the people I serve are mostly lacking in education, job skills that will allow them to sustain themselves or their families, and very few of them come from intact or functional families. Many were born addicted to crack, meth, and other drugs. They've had no one to set a proper example for them.
I have been around the block a couple of times, (I'm a couple of decades and a few years older than you) and based upon my education, training, and experience, I can say that people like this man don't believe that the law, or the rules that govern a society in the world of business, the workplace, or in their personal lives apply to them. I once worked for a man who mirrors this man's arrogance. He amassed a small fortune in just a few years. He was President and CEO of one of the fastest growing companies in the state..... and then went on to lose everything he had, including his marriage. When his troubles became apparent, he thought he could hire the best criminal defense lawyers, including a former county DA to get him out of trouble.
To their credit, his lawyers negotiated a deal that would have cost him about $450K in fines and civil penalties, as well as forfeiture of some assets. Their deal would have barred him from engaging in certain lines of business, while avoiding a criminal conviction and keeping him out of prison. Still convinced that the rules didn't apply to him, he violated agreements pertaining to forfeiture of assets. With his money gone, he had to rely upon public defenders to deal with his new troubles. They worked out another plea deal for him, but in the end, he pled guilty to federal crimes, he now owed the government over $150million, and he went on to spend three years in a federal camp. He went in right about the time you got out. On his day of sentencing, his only tears were for himself. And no, he didn't think he'd done anything so terribly wrong, either. Like this man you speak of, he did nothing to help himself. Like this man, he blamed everyone but himself, including his public defenders for his troubles.
His sons grew up believing that they were also above having to follow the rules of society, whether it be matters of law, the workplace, or in their everyday lives. Up to that time, their father dealt with their troubles by hiring lawyers and by intimidating people. Why? Because of the examples their father set for them. And when their father's crimes caught up with him and all of his family's money, their homes, and their cars (including their oldest teenage son's NEW Cadillac Escalade) were all gone, they were completely lost. Their dad could no longer threaten or fire anyone. They had no one to show them the right way.
This guy clearly isn't used to being held accountable for his actions. Clearly, he doesn't tolerate anyone telling him he's wrong. And in watching your vid, what I see are similar patterns of thinking and behaving. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you, but I invite you to explain why you find my observation sand comments to be" dumb". If you choose to respond, I can assure you that our discourse will be civil, at least on my end. I am disappointed by your lack of civility. As the Late, Great Speaker of The House, Sam Rayburn, (D-Tx.) admonished his collogues on both sides of the political aisles, "Disagree without being disagreeable."
I'm further saddened by your response because I've recommended that people who are in trouble with the law, whether it be at the county, state, or federal level tune into your WCA and Prison Professor vids. I've also recommended that families of inmates, and newly released inmates watch your vids as well, because they offer ideas and ways of thinking needed to help them start building their lives. I'm an advocate of people learning to accept responsibility for their actions, proactively working to mitigate their sentences, and starting to work on a release plan from the outset. Unlike you, the families and parolees I work with are, without exception, all very poor and they simply don't have the money to pay for your services. I realize you do some pro-bono and sliding scale work, but if I referred them to you, all you would get from them would be requests for free services. The people I help have trouble paying their monthly parole fees. I've spent plenty of my own money helping them. If you would rather that I not recommend your videos, just let me know.
Based upon what you have communicated in this vid, and if I'm understanding you correctly, you're having to prod his man to so much as go through the motions of helping himself. If he isn't interested in getting his elbows dirty and REALLY doing the work, then you may be able to help his family cope with their situation, but I don't think you can help him. I won't apologize for my judgmental tone in my initial reply to you. This man's behavior is absolutely foolish. Education and success in life can't save someone like this man from himself. IMO, that makes him a fool. What REALLY torques me is that this man is throwing away opportunities that the people I serve would give anything to have had.
One more thing, Justin. I understand that your focus here is on getting people facing prison at any level to get serious about doing the necessary work and shifting their paradigms. When you spoke of the frustrations this man's family is experiencing, my focus shifted to proper parenting. Speaking as a father who has had to work extremely hard at breaking the patterns of dysfunctionalism that I grew up with, I can state quite emphatically that parents can preach, and parents can teach.... But in the end, children learn from the examples their parents set. After all is said and done, the losses here WILL involve this man's children. Just look at the example this man is setting. I hope they learn the lessons their father should have learned long before now and should have been teaching them over the years. You said it yourself, "Your children are watching." in my experience, ultimately, it's the children who suffer the most. So, if this sounds dumb to you, that's really sad.