Is this new Korean Ashe build any good?

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  • Опубліковано 8 кві 2024
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  • @willnash7907
    @willnash7907 Місяць тому +162

    Unpopular opinion: I haven't been enjoying Saber's content at all recently. He's very educational and I really do love him, but it's just been no cam to speak of at all. Like FULL non-stop laundry and boxers gaming. I understand it's because he's committed to completing all his chores on time while performing at the highest level, but it's just not enjoyable for me to watch. I know I'll get a lot of hate for this comment, but I truly do hope you get back to actually wearing pants more, Saber. You are the GOAT and I hope you don't take this shirtless.

    • @forsencd8904
      @forsencd8904 Місяць тому +28

      Had me in the first half

    • @duhneez2068
      @duhneez2068 Місяць тому +3

      you talking like he has a lower half in the first place😭

  • @chazsommer3194
    @chazsommer3194 Місяць тому +10

    I have to let you know Saber, you are the sole largest reason I was able to get Diamond. I have been an adc main on/off since season 6. I reached Diamond for the first time today. And I have to thank you, for your educational adc content is truly what helped reach the next level! Cheers

  • @jugilismaani2660
    @jugilismaani2660 Місяць тому +6

    Saber doing laundry without clothes... you missed a lot of potential income by disabling the camera my man

  • @RyanWaymire
    @RyanWaymire Місяць тому +22

    Video post 20 minutes ago and people posting like they already watched the full 45 minutes

    • @dieonn540
      @dieonn540 Місяць тому +1

      they watched on 2x speed :)

    • @ThatDudeZEpic
      @ThatDudeZEpic Місяць тому

      Yeah I tend to watch full VODs on accelerated speed. Too much downtime and farming to warrant watching the full thing lol

  • @IOSALive
    @IOSALive Місяць тому

    xFSN Saber, This is amazing! I subscribed right away!

  • @Goondius
    @Goondius Місяць тому +7

    I found that Wits end is only good IF:
    -you actually need the tenacity
    -Especially if you are below 10 or so
    -afterwards you the dmg begins to scale, HOWEVER you would have to weight he options of wits end dmg vs. other on hit damage.
    as in you could actually just buy negatron cloak, and build towards ANOTHER different onhit item altogether.
    That is because wits end is just BARELY gold efficient (before 10).
    Before lvl 10
    Wits end stats:
    2800 gold
    50 mr
    55% attack speed
    35 on hit
    recurve bow (15 % attack speed and 15 on hit) 700 gold
    dagger (12% attack speed) 300 gold
    negatron mantle(50 mr) 900 gold
    Which leaves you with:
    50 mr
    27% attackspeed
    15 on hit
    AND 900 gold left.
    if you were to buy a recurve and a dagger(100 gold short)
    you would basicly have the item wits end in components, and you dont really have an incentive other than the tenacity.
    There is an argument tobe made about the scaling on hit damage, however, if you were to invest that gold into, lets say guinsoos instead, (just buying the negatron for the mr)
    You would actually have an incentive to finish guinsoos for a real passive.
    (there is an argumen to be made about item space though).

    • @bozidarkostoski9104
      @bozidarkostoski9104 Місяць тому +1

      Bro the armor and Mr pen counts for the on hit magic dmg from all the items above so it's actually okay to go wits if u are vs 2/3 AP and possibly if u're against an AP assassin like Eve or kata even Leblanc can 1 tap you even if u don't need the tenacity also with ashes q everything just stacks on top of each other ad AP dmg from on hit lethal botrk rageblade later so it's good you're doing too many problem solving equations when the problem here is 2+2=4 if they have magic dmg get wits if not don't 😂

    • @Goondius
      @Goondius Місяць тому

      @@bozidarkostoski9104 more of a. If you go for a Mr item instead of just finishing it first. You would be better off buying negation and then buying yet another item first.
      And just in terms of Mr kaenic would be better.

    • @bozidarkostoski9104
      @bozidarkostoski9104 Місяць тому

      @@Goondius i actually forgot about that item yeah youre right instead of wits that one would be better you can go terminus hurricane into negatron if needed then get botrk then finish the kaenic and then get either shieldbow for being even safer or bt/rageblade

    • @Goondius
      @Goondius Місяць тому

      @@bozidarkostoski9104 ye. basicly buying wits before 10 is ALWAYS a waste, because components kind of give oyu the stats.
      And after 10 when it begins scaling there is an argument to be made to buy it, however you would have to compare it to items like guinsoos, kraken, botrk etc.

  • @Speak2Soon
    @Speak2Soon Місяць тому +6

    wait isnt it best to go crit with like ie and ldr because of her passive and the bonus from ie? like how does going crit items compare to this? or going tri force?

    • @Jamesified
      @Jamesified Місяць тому +2

      I was wondering if ie last would have more DPS than rageblade

    • @xFSNSaber
      @xFSNSaber  Місяць тому +4

      definitely not ie its too expensive and less defensive options (ldr vs terminus)

    • @arraka-
      @arraka- Місяць тому +2

      Did you guys even watch the video

    • @Jamesified
      @Jamesified Місяць тому

      @@arraka- didn't get that far when I commented. Finished it by now and will skip crit unless the costs get better

    • @arraka-
      @arraka- Місяць тому +1

      @@Jamesified all good, was just confused because he was testing exactly that at the end xD

  • @earlefinlay3682
    @earlefinlay3682 5 днів тому

    I've been experimenting around this for a while and basically, only go wits if you need the non-offence stats.

  • @jogandistevenson3635
    @jogandistevenson3635 Місяць тому +4

    Time to go spam my games with this build

  • @gabrielaugusto3931
    @gabrielaugusto3931 Місяць тому

    I think this was a pretty good ashe game, darius top can only play with summs. Although I would probably prefer an armor item at the end in case rengar wasn't trying to lose.

  • @mightyhelper8336
    @mightyhelper8336 Місяць тому

    maybe wits better when lower as over all + resistances
    crit also gives higher slow

  • @firstname2001
    @firstname2001 Місяць тому

    im totally down for saber to be an ashe main now

  • @rafaelsa5416
    @rafaelsa5416 Місяць тому

    Isn't terminus 1st even better on varus since he has more magic dmg in his kit?

  • @oibanoi6276
    @oibanoi6276 Місяць тому

    This build won me an clash cup LOVE YOU SABER ❤❤❤

  • @mathies3598
    @mathies3598 Місяць тому

    is there room for a jaksho later? cuz of how it interacts with terminus

    • @xFSNSaber
      @xFSNSaber  Місяць тому +2

      ya but apparently no one buys it, i'd try it for sure over ga

  • @MrBigPauly1
    @MrBigPauly1 Місяць тому

    I don’t know why runans is such a must as second item though, or as an item in general, what’s wrong with kraken Bork terminus rageblade and then w.e. Like I feel both runans and pd would be decent, or wits if against a lot of ap and or cc. I haven’t played Ashe in a while, but I think it still holds true runans only good against 2+ melees on enemy, no?

    • @ktwolnuts
      @ktwolnuts Місяць тому +1

      only answer i can see is waveclear but i agree thats not worth as 2nd item

    • @xFSNSaber
      @xFSNSaber  Місяць тому

      wave clear and ms are important for midgame, you can try to get away with no zeal item for more damage but you could just die to random skillshot cause you're slow

    • @dumpsterplayer5133
      @dumpsterplayer5133 Місяць тому

      Waveclear gives you prio and prio let you outrotate the enemy. It fits Ashe's weird build profile as well, where she prefers On-Hit over crit, but has some crit scaling and wants a bit of crit to buff her slow. Only other character with that level of synergy with it is Kaisa, but Kaisa doesn't need the waveclear because of Q evolve.

  • @DeViceCrimsin_
    @DeViceCrimsin_ Місяць тому

    Depending on the game. swap witts for ga or nah?

    • @forsencd8904
      @forsencd8904 Місяць тому +1

      Depends if you get instakilled out of ga, I never build it on any adc anymore, if you get popped, they’ll pop you after ga too. Ashe is a hard maybe, if you’ve got peel just but wits or go more damage if you don’t need the resist and on-hit damage.

    • @xFSNSaber
      @xFSNSaber  Місяць тому +4

      ga only last

  • @rafaelsa5416
    @rafaelsa5416 Місяць тому

    Shouldnt you test just with 1 item.
    Like to see what spykes better cause the change is terminus 1st i wanted to see if dmg is comparable to other 1st items like kraken or BOTRK.
    Like test it at around the lvl you would get 1st item and dummy with 1 item stats as well.

  • @Eitya
    @Eitya Місяць тому

    Actually I prefer to do Bork (1) then terminus (2) runnan/wits (3) the other one (4) this game would've done pd (5) sell berserkers for swift (6) but what do I know I'm Emerald lol

  • @lukamtc9188
    @lukamtc9188 Місяць тому

    bro can someone actually explain Ashe's build(s) this patch? Kraken Trinity Bork Terminus works perfectly fine still. This build seems fine but Terminus first item is too iffy for me. Bork feels terrible to rush. Wit's end is good but taking it into 4AD champs also doesn't feel great. I love Terminus + Runaan's but Terminus first item is iffy and I'm not building Runaan's first... Ashe really isn't a crit champ, so avoiding Kraken and IE should be good. Whatever at this point I'll just build what Mobafire tells me to..

  • @forsencd8904
    @forsencd8904 Місяць тому

    Saber whats ur ban atm, I use it on jinx personally, even if you can stomp her lane, if their team stalls she needs 1 reset to wipe you.

    • @xFSNSaber
      @xFSNSaber  Місяць тому +1

      i ban eve, that champ is ptsd

  • @runescapeking324
    @runescapeking324 Місяць тому

    Saber why did you show us the game that you specifically said was not optimal for this build and had only one AP on the enemy team xD

  • @xxrektgamerxx2241
    @xxrektgamerxx2241 Місяць тому

    for the kraken build you gave the dummy M.R instead of armour

    • @yGKeKe
      @yGKeKe Місяць тому

      That's not possible. Dummies get +10 armour and MR at the same time. You can't do it individually.

  • @Ritz360
    @Ritz360 Місяць тому

    Aram God, no one looks at this shit in lobby becasue it last 2 seconds on loading screen, but it feels good having it amongst friends in lobby😎😎

  • @niwnoom
    @niwnoom Місяць тому +1

    also where is my tft video? im wodlah from twitch and you promised me a tft video sir :3

  • @nogamenolife9182
    @nogamenolife9182 Місяць тому

    I think last item trinity would have been better.

  • @YL-Momo
    @YL-Momo Місяць тому

    gg nice comeback

  • @TheAceOverKings
    @TheAceOverKings Місяць тому +1

    I don't see why not having clothes on precludes a cam bro, just pull a zoom meeting 😂

  • @niwnoom
    @niwnoom Місяць тому

    ashe video yay ^^

  • @Chan-hq4bb
    @Chan-hq4bb Місяць тому +3

    😳

  • @XvAstarisk
    @XvAstarisk Місяць тому

    I build bork to kraken and max q

  • @chucklesxcore
    @chucklesxcore Місяць тому

    we all know why you led with that. saber is about to start his bunnyfufu arc.

  • @Tauschung
    @Tauschung Місяць тому

    10:47 made me unreasonably angry and sad at the fact that supports just don't get better the higher you climb

    • @coolpapabell22
      @coolpapabell22 Місяць тому

      Sometimes people just have bad games. Most Saber popoff games are because the support is playing like Keria lol.

  • @JaxonRoz
    @JaxonRoz Місяць тому

    lolol saber be wildn

  • @yGKeKe
    @yGKeKe Місяць тому

    Well, if we're being honest...Terminus has 40 flat AD, 30% AS, 30 on hit damage, dual pen and defensive stats. ...The item is simply over tuned. It's probably more damage than Kraken Slayer first item if you're going for an on-hit build. This also pairs well with BoRK...which is also simply an over tuned item.
    Ashe actually has quite a lot of viable builds with the current items based on the draft, and the others probably have a stronger 2 item power spike in terms of raw DPS, but this still makes plenty of sense.
    Also, I'm pretty sure that PD is objectively better than Runaans if you're not playing against 3 melees that jump on your face, but I can understand wanting the on-hit bolts in any game where you can actually utilize them efficiently and I'm sure most Ashe players are just building that shit without thinking about the game they're in, hence the significantly higher pick rate.

    • @lnlsun
      @lnlsun Місяць тому

      The increased waveclear with Runaan's feels too good for me to give up.

  • @henrynguyen9101
    @henrynguyen9101 9 днів тому

    bro get to the point