That was so informative man thanks, could swapping the EEPROMs from an old dead ECU to a newer one make the latter work with the original keys..? I have a 1999 Lexus with a bad ECU and I would like to know if I could just buy a used ECU with matching part numbers and swap the EEPROMs..
Hi great video thanks 👍. Please can you tell me how to locate the correct eeprom as my ford ecu has several chips that look like this 🤔. Ha ha i am new to all of this so if the answer is obvious then I apologize in advance.
Generally all eeproms are recommended to be near the main processor. Start there. Also see online on how smd I2C eeproms look. 90% of the times i2c is used.
Could you reiterate the tooling you used in this video? Links on eBay expired. i wanted to verify the progammer and software, ill be in a situation simaler with an older Avalon
How does one hold their hands so steady… I’ve gotten into soldering recently and one of my biggest obstacles is my hands being a shaky mess while trying to do precision work.
Bonjour super vidéo 👍 peut on reécrire sur eeprom 24c04 de la même façon ? Où il y a un pontage de pin a faire réécrire ? L'écriture est-elle sécuriser ? Merci
@@retrotechinsanity Thanks! But I can't take credit for the idea. I saw someone do it on YT. It worked, but the guy in the video did say not to get too upset if it didn't work for you. I take it that it's a coin-toss as to its' success rate.
When an EEPROM is blank, the bytes are all FF. If you look at the screen in the video around time 11:25 you'll see the 4 bytes that need to be changed from FF at offset 003A, 003B, 00BA and 00BB.
@@retrotechinsanity I will definitely invest in it if it makes it a lot easier. My only concern is that I heard when you try to read it directly off the board, it can corrupt the file? That’s why I’m a little hesitant to purchase and use it
@@Cali415 I had tried one of those CHA341 based clip on devices as well as building my own circuit on a bread board (think it was a few diodes and resistors) and wiring it into the XGpro. Both had a similar result where the data read was different every time. I imagine it was because when powering the board with 5v to read the chip, other devices on the data bus came to life and caused problems.
Criticism: your video is a little over 19 minutes. it is not title something like "how to solder/desolder an 8-pin SOIC chip" where there are tons of vids that show how but rather a very specific thing related to a car computer and programming an eeprom for a new key (that's what most of your viewers will click for), but you skipped the most important thing for some REASON, which is where did you get the hex file that you burned into the eeprom?!?! 10:55 to 12:03 is the little over a minute where you actively avoided mentioning that, just like almost every single one of your buddies on the internet who did a similar thing
Thank you, sir. But you did show a file there. Anyhow, forgive my probable ignorance, but even with that, what is your reference in what to do with what bytes for any given make and model?
@@engineereuler1762 Sorry, I have no idea what to do with any other makes or models. I just know this is how you zero out the learned key data for this particular ECM. I did this as a favor for a friend and don't normally do this kind of work. Most of the rom programming I do is for old 8 and 16 bit computers. All the other videos I ran across used the chip clip method to reprogram the eeprom while it was still on board the pcb. For whatever reason, the clip method wouldnt work with two ECMs of this model. I guess it was the wrong clip or a poorly made one, hence the need for desoldering. I created the file that was used here based on documentation I found on the net somewhere. I would imagine its a similar method for other ECM's utilizing this eeprom chip.
@@engineereuler1762 As for the file, I created it. It's only 4 bytes of data and the rest are zeros. Just recreate it based on what's seen on the screen. I may still have that file somewhere but the computer I used is packed away right now. As for the make/model comment - different makes and models of vehicles may use a similar process but the data you need to enter will vary.
nice video sir....sir can you help me i ? i loss data from smartkey epprom 93 c86 toyota fortuner..can i take a data from ecu epprom to make a data in ecu smartkey?
i 'm newbie about read epprom sir..my device is ezl 2019 .i can read this ecu epprom but i don't no what to do with the data sir ..i replace my ecu smartkey but i don't have ignition on sir..i think i want copy this data to ecu smartkey.can i do it sir to get ignition on? thanks you very very much sir if you give that infomation...
I don't know if the 93's work the same way as these slightly later models which have this type of ECU. My understanding is that the key itself isn't programmable, it just has an RFID type of device that has to be learned by the ECU. So when you blank the ECU, you re-learn that key to the ECU but the content of key's RFID doesn't change.
Lot of the info you gave went over my head but I have to tell how cool are you for knowing this really awesome stuff, thank you!
Thanks brother. Your kind words are much appreciated!
Amazing the amount of heat the chips and the board can handle
That was so informative man thanks, could swapping the EEPROMs from an old dead ECU to a newer one make the latter work with the original keys..? I have a 1999 Lexus with a bad ECU and I would like to know if I could just buy a used ECU with matching part numbers and swap the EEPROMs..
You can almost always program that chip in circuit with the andromeda AR32 programmer from andromeda research labs.
Good stuff thank you👍 Radio Shack "the good stuff" ain't nothing like it (Radio Shack Rebirth)...😁
Sir where i can buy all toyota reset immo files .
If you use flux the solder will flow better. Always remove this type of eeprom to program it. It only takes a few minutes
Hi great video thanks 👍. Please can you tell me how to locate the correct eeprom as my ford ecu has several chips that look like this 🤔. Ha ha i am new to all of this so if the answer is obvious then I apologize in advance.
Sorry, I don't know anything about how Ford ECUs work.
Generally all eeproms are recommended to be near the main processor. Start there. Also see online on how smd I2C eeproms look. 90% of the times i2c is used.
Thanks for your help 🙂.
Could you reiterate the tooling you used in this video? Links on eBay expired. i wanted to verify the progammer and software, ill be in a situation simaler with an older Avalon
this chip is 8 or 16 bit?
why the chip has no data when loaded? Where is the memory in it gone?
How does one hold their hands so steady… I’ve gotten into soldering recently and one of my biggest obstacles is my hands being a shaky mess while trying to do precision work.
Bonjour super vidéo 👍 peut on reécrire sur eeprom 24c04 de la même façon ? Où il y a un pontage de pin a faire réécrire ? L'écriture est-elle sécuriser ? Merci
ma leggerla direttamente sulla scheda?? si puo fare?
Did you try tying the reset line low on the CPU to hold it in a reset state while programming the EPROM?
No I don't think I did, but thats a great idea and probably would have saved me desoldering!
@@retrotechinsanity Thanks! But I can't take credit for the idea. I saw someone do it on YT.
It worked, but the guy in the video did say not to get too upset if it didn't work for you. I take it that it's a coin-toss as to its' success rate.
Zeroing is 00 or FF? Once this all done what is the next step?????
When an EEPROM is blank, the bytes are all FF. If you look at the screen in the video around time 11:25 you'll see the 4 bytes that need to be changed from FF at offset 003A, 003B, 00BA and 00BB.
This part was a lifesaver.. thank you for being detailed.. I did the Paperclip OBD2 trick and it wiped the entire chip, 4runner would not start
I heard the Xhorse mini prog makes it much easier?
That Xhorse tool looks pretty cool and would certainly make this easier, but it's quite expensive!
@@retrotechinsanity I will definitely invest in it if it makes it a lot easier. My only concern is that I heard when you try to read it directly off the board, it can corrupt the file? That’s why I’m a little hesitant to purchase and use it
@@Cali415 I tried to read the chip without removing it from the board and had corruption issues which is why I wound up desoldering the chip
@@retrotechinsanity Do you mind me asking what you used to try reading it from the board?
@@Cali415 I had tried one of those CHA341 based clip on devices as well as building my own circuit on a bread board (think it was a few diodes and resistors) and wiring it into the XGpro. Both had a similar result where the data read was different every time. I imagine it was because when powering the board with 5v to read the chip, other devices on the data bus came to life and caused problems.
nice
Criticism: your video is a little over 19 minutes. it is not title something like "how to solder/desolder an 8-pin SOIC chip" where there are tons of vids that show how but rather a very specific thing related to a car computer and programming an eeprom for a new key (that's what most of your viewers will click for), but you skipped the most important thing for some REASON, which is where did you get the hex file that you burned into the eeprom?!?! 10:55 to 12:03 is the little over a minute where you actively avoided mentioning that, just like almost every single one of your buddies on the internet who did a similar thing
There is no "file", you just need to manually edit the correct bytes to the correct values and write it back to the chip.
Thank you, sir. But you did show a file there. Anyhow, forgive my probable ignorance, but even with that, what is your reference in what to do with what bytes for any given make and model?
@@engineereuler1762 Sorry, I have no idea what to do with any other makes or models. I just know this is how you zero out the learned key data for this particular ECM. I did this as a favor for a friend and don't normally do this kind of work. Most of the rom programming I do is for old 8 and 16 bit computers. All the other videos I ran across used the chip clip method to reprogram the eeprom while it was still on board the pcb. For whatever reason, the clip method wouldnt work with two ECMs of this model. I guess it was the wrong clip or a poorly made one, hence the need for desoldering. I created the file that was used here based on documentation I found on the net somewhere. I would imagine its a similar method for other ECM's utilizing this eeprom chip.
@@engineereuler1762 As for the file, I created it. It's only 4 bytes of data and the rest are zeros. Just recreate it based on what's seen on the screen. I may still have that file somewhere but the computer I used is packed away right now. As for the make/model comment - different makes and models of vehicles may use a similar process but the data you need to enter will vary.
@@retrotechinsanity can you please show the 4 bytes and explain their bits and what they mean?
nice video sir....sir can you help me i ? i loss data from smartkey epprom 93 c86 toyota fortuner..can i take a data from ecu epprom to make a data in ecu smartkey?
i 'm newbie about read epprom sir..my device is ezl 2019 .i can read this ecu epprom but i don't no what to do with the data sir ..i replace my ecu smartkey but i don't have ignition on sir..i think i want copy this data to ecu smartkey.can i do it sir to get ignition on? thanks you very very much sir if you give that infomation...
I don't know if the 93's work the same way as these slightly later models which have this type of ECU. My understanding is that the key itself isn't programmable, it just has an RFID type of device that has to be learned by the ECU. So when you blank the ECU, you re-learn that key to the ECU but the content of key's RFID doesn't change.
Using a soip clip then no need to solder to breadboard but nice video.
Thanks, I did try that first but I was getting bad data when reading the EEPROM so I pulled the chip. Could have just been a limitation to my reader.
Can I get that bin file please
drive.google.com/file/d/1qyAsnRbADn-IPb1UGoesQJQYbm4k9-ZL/view?usp=sharing
Sorry for the delay, have been in the process of moving and am just getting caught up on everything.
Hello, can i get that bin file, please.
@nandotobar51 not a good link.
@@retrotechinsanitydamn file is gone.