@@MEC_2wtf? Gypsy Rose was a victim of lifelong abuse as a child, which has been well verified and documented (her mom shopping g her to doctors when they became suspicious, literally getting fixing a tube and putting her child in a wheelchair when it was subsequently very easily verifiable that she had no medical condition at all. Don’t even try to compare that to Casey Anthony
@@Thenessaharris The DA's office needed a win after the embarrassment OJ gave to them. Also, it annoyed me so much that Pamela Bozanich kept saying that she wanted to win like giving people life sentences in jail is some sort of game to her.
There was and is no evidence of their abuse... it just sounds good for their possibility of parole. But i will say 30 plus years is a long time behind bars. Time served, free them
@@judeawilliams4458I’m sorry but you are in denial at this point..,there was a lot of evidence of SA….more then any other successful case of SA had…so please..stop this…
@@aidafaupl4733 not much evidence proving they were abused . But it is evidence proving they were guilty ! Lyle saying he can cry on cue . Eric writing a script about killing his parents for money
they took acting lessons, and "forgot" to mention that in the doc. Did they also mention that they wrote a screen play on the subject prior to the murders? They made up the abuse excuse because their lawyer got someone else off with it
@@educatedguess5093so anyone who takes acting lessons and has suffered sexual abuse is incapable of displaying real emotions is that what you’re implying? 🙄
@@educatedguess5093oh and I guess evidence means nothing now! Like the letters erik sent to his cousin when he was 10, the s3xual photos their dad took when they were so young? The family members that came forward saying that they believed that Jose would do such a thing!
God you’re gullible! Please stick to analyzing life through tik to,s! God I don’t know how your generation survives in this world! These cons were obviously guilty! These were grown ass men mooching off their parents and felt entitled to that access to privilege… Erik was obviously gay… if you knew any Latinos from that era you’d know why the father was so hard on him… there aren’t enough words to convey my anger at you dupes!
@@l.k.1111 Legally, the question is not whether they killed them, but whether it is manslaughter or murder. The whole idea of saying it's manslaughter is the point of: "Could Sexual Abuse cause a reasonable person to snap and kill their abuser?" And the answer to that is yes. Then, its up to them to prove they were abused, and if they were, the charge should be manslaughter, not murder. It's the same idea if someone constantly antagonizes you at a bar, and you guys get in a fight and you end up killing him in the fight, it is legally manslaughter, not murder. The question was never if they did it, the question was, were they abused.
ON OF THE MENUDO members (a famous Puerto Rican band) claims he was sexually assaulted by the Menendez FATHER! Like come on, they really need to reopen the case and reduce their sentence!
Its really simple, ppl didn't understand mental health in relation to trauma, & those days it was a general view that no matter what one's parents do they're "still your parents", not to mention that ppl still think guys can't be molested....
Oh? Does luxurious shopping spree, travels, buying Rolex watches, buying businesses, hiring a full time tennis coach after the murder part of mental health too? And about being molested, do you even stop to think that saying they were sexually molested were nothing but a walk in the park after they murdered their parents?
You have to put yourself in their shoes. They were young adults, finally free of their parents tournament. Plus back then, or even now even though mental health is talked about so much, i dont think it crossed their mind to seek professional help. they did what thwy thought would help them move on. @michelleclarke8500
I agree. They should be released with time served. They've been punished enough. I'm sure they wished they did things differently. I get why they killed their parents. It wasn't the right or smart thing to do. They just cracked and felt no one will help them.
@@Chad_MaxTrue but think logically. If they wanted money then yes, they would murder them, but they would also want to cover it up. A gunshot is not something you do when you want to hide a murder. You would use poison or something undetectable.
They will be out in 2 months, no new trial needed , time served. Talk of town in LA right now. I think they will be driven back to DTLA. And it’s well deserved. The judge should have been disbarred for forcing the hand of the jury, it’s unbelievable this was allowed to stand.
Downtown Los Angeles, because their trial was there. They will have to go to court to get time served and release. Where will they live? I don’t know, I would assume between San Diego and Los Angeles.
@@greg6122 Look who's talking! 😂 You act like you knew the parents l personally. Like there were multiple accounts supporting their claims abuse and even family members have come showing their support for them. Like it's not that hard to Google, which is free btw and actually do some research of your own, instead of just going off of what you see with that surface level kind of thinking.
So you’re comfortable having them as neighbors then? They shot and killed their abusers while they watched TV. The imminent threat to their lives was what?? They shot them several times, stopped and reloaded and shot again.
@@yvettetorres7829 I would be more then comfortable they aren’t 18 and 21 anymore everyone deserves a chance I’m pretty sure there parents would want them to be out
Gypsy was legally and physically held captive by her mother. She tried to get away more than once, but her mother found out and brought her back. She also was cut off from people her own age and from most means of communication. THAT is the difference. Lyle and Erik could have left at any point. They could have gone to police, filed a restraining order, etc. but they did none of that. Instead, they went straight to murder.
@@dragonwitch27they were terrified of their father. erik has said that he tried to run away, but jose threatened him. you are disgusting for defending those “parents”.
@dragonwitch27 The situations aren't same because Gypsy's mother had no power or connections/money. Their dad did and used everything he could against them. If you get abused for so long in childhood, it makes you unable to imagine making it out on your own because you don't know what that is like. And considering family members have supported them and what happened, another victim has come forward as well shows in their favor. Look at the Diddy case, he got away with a lot because he had money and power to cover his butt.
@@nbuny I could care less what you think of me. If they were abused, they have my sympathies. That doesn't allow you to take the law into your own hands though. That's not how civilized societies operate. Most people also don't go on shopping sprees after murdering their parents either.
just so those reading know, alford plea means you're maintaining your innocence. they confessed to the killings. but yes, time served surpasses manslaughter sentence by almost 20 years
@@transcendcapitalism no its not lmao, on the record your guilty so you cant find jobs or anything but when there are numerous pre trials then you usually take an alford plea
The father being a music / entertainment executive is likely THE real monster, we've heard all the stories about the entertainment industry. It makes sense
the father literally corroborated with and enjoyed being close "pals" with Edgardo Diaz who basically ran a pedophile ring under the guise of the music group Menudo. Edgardo Diaz is also someone else LA county wants to ignore. But I bet if they arrested him and gave him a plea deal in exchange for evidence about Jose Menendez, he might do it. He must have so much hidden knowledge about how sick Jose Menendez was, since apparently they liked molesting boys TOGETHER.
It's unacceptable that the prosecution ignored the abuse they endured for so many years. Their crime was an act of hate. But abuse should never be ignored. I think they paid enough with 35 years in jail. They should be given the opportunity to re-start their lives now.
Justice for these guys ❤!the fact that in the second trial they were not allowed to talk about their abuse just shows you how far we’ve come as a society. The world was so … idk if to say naive or blind to the deeper issues that a lot of young boys and girls suffered back in the days and even now
One of the prosecutors even said that men couldn't be raped because they lacked the necessary equipment to be raped. Like omfg how'd she get her degree?
IDK: everyone seems to be forgetting how they partied big time spent many many thousands quickly after the murder. I just do not know.. very grown big men, if they were being abused I cannot fathom not getting out without murder..people DID know about child abuse in that era. TV shows should not move the justice system.
They weren’t grown big men. After years of mental, physical, sexual abuse they didn’t see a way out. Expect for violence which is what they were surround by
They are already rich. They have been incredibly rich every since they were born so they never worry about money and do not care too much about money. Plus they are sole inheritors anyway. There is no point in committing this kind of crime just for money. It just does not make sense.
You would know about that. They have served 35 years with no infractions! They teach speech, meditation and have made presentations on how to improve prisons. The Warden at their prison has stated that they need to be set free. I would be fine with them living next door to me. I have male friends that were victims of SA and their behavior coincides with theirs.
@@Sew28 Because of the evidence? Their family members all testified against Jose Menendez and some of them even confessed that they have actually seen Erik begging for lemon in his food because lemon made him taste his dad’s semen less. Other than the family’s testimony, just look at them testifying. Do you think a person who killed their parents for money would have such a reaction while telling the whole world during their televised trial that they were abused by their dad pretty much their entire life while also giving details about how it happened and when it happened and where it happened and reliving those immensely traumatic moments that they had to start dealing with at 6 years old???
@@Tim82ATW Bc Lyle came out and said that it was bc of the tapes that Norma wrote and also knew that if he testified, he would have been cross examined unfairly
The thing of it is, these days, our society is more knowledgeable about the scars from abuse and life without parole is much much less likely to happen these days. Further, it’s been justifiably argued that if we were discussing the Menendez sisters, they would not have gotten the same sentence
We're so much more aware now about trauma of child sex abuse and talking about it. We didn't talk about it back then. The system failed these young men, and then punished them for it. I hope justice is finally served and they are free for paying the price of the abuse of their father.
Shut the fuck up if it was you getting abused and u killed ur parents u would feel the same way they feel that you should be release so get the fuck out here
No they were not abused. The father threatened to cut them off financially because they were a couple of criminals and losers. So they blasted away both parents to get to the money.
@@firenze5555 so what about the actual witness of the family they even said Jose was a horrible dad would hear Jose doing stuff in Erika room what about the letter 8 months before the murder. You are so fucking delusional dawg ong would smack u if i saw u
There are two shows on Netflix about them right now. The first one, "Monsters" is the one you're referring to (and I agree). It was highly fictionalized. The second one, "The Menendez Brothers" just came out yesterday, and it is indeed a documentary. That's where the recent interview clips with the brothers in this video are taken from. I encourage you to watch it.
This is so obviously a huge miscarriage of justice. Heartbreaking. Thankfully they had each other. They are about my age and I remember them being tied nobody talked about the abuse. People were too uncomfortable entertaining the possibility that a father could do this to his sons, and mother could turn a blind eye. It’s so sad. I hope they are released and go on to live out their lives in peace.
People who aren't our age/weren't alive back then can't understand how it worked back then. Your parents (and husband for that matter) could pretty much do whatever they wanted. Legally, it was extremely hard to get someone arrested for child abuse unless it was incredibly horrible. They could have "just left" and the cops wouldn't have done a thing to their parents. Nothing. Especially because they are male.
@@d.263 spot on. And the discomfort around admitting to any family abuse, particularly for families not poor or otherwise obviously in distress, was even harder. And particularly incest and pedophilia. It basically contained every criminal element that is to this day repugnant to society. It required admitting that this is happening in “respectable” families, which of course it was and is, but people didn’t have the courage to admit it. It was easier instead to focus on the victims’ crime, make them the objects of outrage. These two paid a steep price for our whole society lacking the courage to look at these, the hardest things, unflinchingly.
@@Mary-tj5qx Agree to all that! Until recently, it was all about blaming the victim. "Why didn't she just leave?" "Why did they wait until now to say anything?" "What was she wearing? She was asking for it" "Boys can't be molested, they can fight back" All BS. I don't know if younger people now can understand how male/perpetrator-oriented laws were back then. And in this case the judge was horrible. They deserve a new hearing/sentencing asap. I wonder why 2nd degree was never an option?
@nicolasmagalhaeslussim2711 they were human don't be childish they did not deserve to die they deserve to be in prison yes but not dead don't be childish
I had no idea they were pushing the boundaries of the culture of their time during the case - of course that 90s culture predictably spat that back at them in the face.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of bad mothers in the world. It is hard for me to fathom, because I had a loving mother, but I know a ton of people who had bad mothers. Often victims of abuse themselves, so they don't know any different or they become abusers themselves. Hurt people, hurt people.
@@educatedguess5093You’re disgusting. There is lots of evidence out there that they were being sexually abused. Their mothers sister even testified in their favor.
@@educatedguess5093 there are mothers that let their sons be abused (sexually, physically and/or psychologically) for the sake of maintaining the family "united". I suggest you to google the Henry Borel case.
They haven't even begun to serve their sentences, two counts to 1st, pre-meditated. Even if abused many years before murders, there's no law on the books which allow a person to murder their abuser, especially without the right of the alleged abuser to confront their accuser.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be paroled; I do think it's been long enough BUT at the end of the day they murdered two people. I believe they choose to murder them mainly for the money and to keep their lifestyle.
They're behind bars because they murdered their parents in cold blood because they wanted to continue the free financial ride their father had them on. They were too spoiled and felt entitled. Instead of being productive members of society, they failed at petty crimes and decided to kill their parents for money. It's easy to see these two killers were acting in court as victims. Those tears were not due to that story of supposedly being assaulted by their father, it was their pathetic and desperate attempt at swaying the jurors. You can see the arrogance and cocky attitudes oozing from their faces and body language if you really watch. Leave these murderers in prison where they belong for life. These dudes are sociopaths.
They cried coz they got caught and wanted the jury to be convinced it’s not a manslaughter. It was not the trauma or grief or anything. The 911, the eulogy, the spending spree, their background of robberies and stealing from their parents. The motivation was money, look how they smile and their eyes lit up in the interviews.
Rape claims were disallowed in the 2nd Trial because the law says rape doesn’t give you the right to murder anyone. So it was only gonna play on juror’s heartstrings, when it was never gonna be allowed to color their verdict. Since the rape allegations had already been heard in the first trial, and all it did was hang the jury, the judge decided to streamline the 2nd jury’s decision with only evidence directly pertinent to a verdict. Saying rape, rape, rape in THIS case was a waste of time (in both hearings) because it wouldn’t have excused their acts.
The bottom line is, even if they were being abused, they still killed premeditatedly and in Cold Blood. This evidence should have affected the Punishment, but not the Conviction for the Crime. Seems like 35 years time served is about right.
The 2nd trial was skewed in favor of the prosecution by not allowing the abuse as evidence and certain people to testify. It didn’t help them on the first trial so the Judge denied it into the 2nd & also changed charges they could be convicted of.
I don't believe these monsters🤬 ...if their father was SA both of them ..but why did they stay with their father in their 20s ..btw why delete their mother 😮what did she have to do with their SA ...this Z zombie generation is sick for seeing these two monsters as victims..😤
Exactly!! They had other options and don't forget Lyle threatened to kill the doctor and his family! Why didn't Lyle testify again at their last trial?
You only watched the Netflix show, huh? Their mother KNEW about the abuse going on, and did absolutely nothing. Any GOOD mother would immediately take their children out of there.
@@Tim82ATW he didn’t testify because someone unlawfully recorded calls, in which he wasn’t even saying things as terrible as everyone played it out to be.
While I believe the sexual accusations, I don't believe for a SECOND they were in fear of their lives. I believe years of anger and resentment built up and the idea of getting all that money if their parents were dead was a very appealing idea.
I don't believe that they were sexually abused. I think that their parents were furious because they were already a couple of criminals arrested for robberies of neighbors' homes of $100,000 and Lyle got kicked out of Princeton for cheating so the father threatened to cut them off financially. That's when the brothers decided to murder both parents to get free access to the money.
@CliffordXHA1...educate yourself on the trial. So worn out with armchair lawyers. Lyle had been given a condo and he was moving. Erik wanted to escape via college. Before he left his father told him he had to stay at home. He was being SA'd from the ages of 6-18. He knew if he lived at home the abuse would continue. In a state of panic Erik finally confessed to Lyle. Lyle and Jose got into a screaming match about it. Jose was a known abuser. The people that worked with his stated they weren't surprised when they heard about his fate. It was well known in Puerto Rico he was an abuser. He abused members of the band Menudo. He also was associated with cartels and the mafia.
They were too cool too. Cocky was all about money money. They went out and you could see them even during this time. They just were smiling all the time they were in the news. They were somebody they had the money so they thought. Anyways keep them in prison. That's where they belong
They emptied two shotguns, reloaded them and emptied them again. They knew what they were doing. It doesn’t matter how much you are abused, it doesn’t give you the right to murder your abuser. The DA is will review everything and will uphold the charges, if anything is changed it would create a legal precedent for murder being the answer for abuse. Abuse is beyond wrong. These boys were tortured, and I can’t say I would’ve done anything different than what these two boys did. I feel so bad for them, and if court and cases were based on emotion- they should’ve never been in jail this long. The problem is, it has to be based on law. Where is the substantial proof that their mom abused them and left both of them with absolutely no choice but to kill her. You aren’t going to be able to prove that, ever. Their word, means nothing. Why? Because when someone does something in self-defense they are honest- these two lied and had the police searching for other people for weeks. Too many things don’t add up, legally. So yeah, I feel bad that their dad was a complete asshole who raped them- BUT that doesn’t give them the right to not only kill him, but his wife as well.
i just read the only reason they got caught was because erik told his doctor that he did it and his doctor told his mistress. the doc broke up with his mistress and his mistress got mad and told the cops. thats wild
Hmm my father molested me everyday for 7 years and I didn't murder him .. not just that mental and physical abuse as well to my sisters and my mother also... never murdered my father....
You what's crazy people will scroll past this comment because they desperately want the menendez brothers murder to make sense which is crazy on the side note I hope your doing well mate and I'm sorry that happend to you❤
This is how dangerous integrated psychopaths are. They ruin lives even if its their own blood relatives. Look how disgusting and nefarious their father was that his avise is still affecting them 30 years later. I hate him
I see which one you’re talking about. You’re talking about the show called “MONSTERS” that was directed by Ryan Murphy. Yeah you’re right, it is inaccurate and is definitely not a documentary. But, there was an actual documentary released today called “THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS” on Netflix, featuring over 20 hours of call and “interviews” with the brothers while they tell their own story. So this one, is a documentary because they’re the ones who are doing the talking. 😊
I wish y’all would put this energy into people who Actually didn’t kill anyone but were falsely convicted. Instead of people who actually committed the crime yes they were abused but at the end of the day they made their choice.
@@katchristina5243 and if you really want to help innocent people I’d look into how to save Robert Roberson, an autistic man in Texas who will be executed the 17th for being falsely accused of shaking his daughter to the point of death
And a lot of families there is sexual abuse and rape. People don't go and kill their parents or family members everyday because of this with all about money and greed. Stop feeling sorry for them. They like to play it, play it up to the camera and to anybody that will listen. They're guilty guilty of sin
They were old enough to move out and go to the police. They could have jumped in the car and left if they were in fear for their lives instead of pulling shotguns out and going back into the house.
The way that they lied and lied to the police and said it was the mafia after the murders - and then went on a million dollar spending spree. They belong behind bars.
@@firenze5555 They did not tell the police it was the mafia. All they said is that it could have been business-related. The mob angle was something the police came up with when looking into Jose's business. If the cops had done their job correctly and followed proper police protocol, Lyle and Erik would have been arrested that night. The money they spent after the killings was in keeping with their lifestyle, none of that money came from the estate and they had to get approval from their relatives for all the purchases they made.
@@Muirmaiden They lied their asses off. The brothers were budding criminals. They had been arrested previously for theft of $100,000 (that would be $250,00 in today's money) of cash and property of their neighbors' homes. Lyle had been kicked out of Princeton for cheating. Erik wrote a screenplay about a son who murders his parents for money. FACTS. When his fed up father threatened to cut them off financially, the brothers murdered both parents for money.
They killed their parents Why did they not move they were adults I think they killed them because they was afraid to be disinherited It was about the money i think Ewen if they were abused its not ok with murdered
Legally they're adults at 19 or 18 but they're not really equipped to move out. Why is it so difficult to understand that SA by family members is so common and could have happened to them as well?
How is it that Casey Anthony is free but these Men aren’t?? The system is sooooo damaged !!
And Gypsy Rose Blanchard!!
@@MEC_2wtf? Gypsy Rose was a victim of lifelong abuse as a child, which has been well verified and documented (her mom shopping g her to doctors when they became suspicious, literally getting fixing a tube and putting her child in a wheelchair when it was subsequently very easily verifiable that she had no medical condition at all. Don’t even try to compare that to Casey Anthony
A good lawyer named Jose Baez.
@@MEC_2gypsy is also a victim and didn’t commit the act herself
@@alexcanning5383 my point exactly. The sons were also victims.
So disappointed in our justice system. These men should be free now.
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The documentary talked about how OJ Simpson killed his ex wife and her friend and was NOT guilty and was released. HOW???
@@Thenessaharris The DA's office needed a win after the embarrassment OJ gave to them. Also, it annoyed me so much that Pamela Bozanich kept saying that she wanted to win like giving people life sentences in jail is some sort of game to her.
There is so much evidence to prove they weren't lying, I feel so sorry for them.
There was and is no evidence of their abuse... it just sounds good for their possibility of parole. But i will say 30 plus years is a long time behind bars. Time served, free them
@@judeawilliams4458there were several family members that described the same abuse.
@@judeawilliams4458I’m sorry but you are in denial at this point..,there was a lot of evidence of SA….more then any other successful case of SA had…so please..stop this…
At this point take a lie detector test. 1 ? Did you kill your parents.2? Were you molested? The renewed craze behind this case is insane.
@@aidafaupl4733 not much evidence proving they were abused . But it is evidence proving they were guilty ! Lyle saying he can cry on cue . Eric writing a script about killing his parents for money
I watched the documentary today.
I dont think they were faking those tears.
I think they should be free now.
they took acting lessons, and "forgot" to mention that in the doc. Did they also mention that they wrote a screen play on the subject prior to the murders? They made up the abuse excuse because their lawyer got someone else off with it
@@educatedguess5093so anyone who takes acting lessons and has suffered sexual abuse is incapable of displaying real emotions is that what you’re implying? 🙄
@@educatedguess5093oh and I guess evidence means nothing now! Like the letters erik sent to his cousin when he was 10, the s3xual photos their dad took when they were so young? The family members that came forward saying that they believed that Jose would do such a thing!
Don’t forget the 911 phone audio where they are crying and screaming someone killed their parents.
@@educatedguess5093 and the Kids from Menudo also were acting? one of the kids kill himself btw
They should have been sent to a psychiatric hospital for help - not to jail. Set them free!
Ohhhh of course
God you’re gullible! Please stick to analyzing life through tik to,s! God I don’t know how your generation survives in this world! These cons were obviously guilty! These were grown ass men mooching off their parents and felt entitled to that access to privilege… Erik was obviously gay… if you knew any Latinos from that era you’d know why the father was so hard on him… there aren’t enough words to convey my anger at you dupes!
@@kundun5 Latin culture “from that era” did not include parents molesting or raping their kids. You need help!
@@doclabo they didn’t hats my point, you dunce! How do you believe these charlatans? Are you even,Latino? Get a life!
@@kundun5you’re sick in the head
Set them FREE! They have been abused their entire life!
Let them go live with you!
Murder is murder. They should still be there. But not death penalty.
@@l.k.1111they’ve been there long enough, Gypsy Rose literally was let go, why can’t them? Her mother’s death was just as if not worse.
@@l.k.1111 Legally, the question is not whether they killed them, but whether it is manslaughter or murder. The whole idea of saying it's manslaughter is the point of: "Could Sexual Abuse cause a reasonable person to snap and kill their abuser?" And the answer to that is yes. Then, its up to them to prove they were abused, and if they were, the charge should be manslaughter, not murder. It's the same idea if someone constantly antagonizes you at a bar, and you guys get in a fight and you end up killing him in the fight, it is legally manslaughter, not murder. The question was never if they did it, the question was, were they abused.
@@jamesjenkins4655 Murder is murder. Taking another's life is still killing.
Justice for Erik & Lyle Menéndez ✌🏽🧡💚🤎🤎
Yea free those murders
ON OF THE MENUDO members (a famous Puerto Rican band) claims he was sexually assaulted by the Menendez FATHER! Like come on, they really need to reopen the case and reduce their sentence!
Its really simple, ppl didn't understand mental health in relation to trauma, & those days it was a general view that no matter what one's parents do they're "still your parents", not to mention that ppl still think guys can't be molested....
Literally a guy in the trial said boys cant get raped
Oh? Does luxurious shopping spree, travels, buying Rolex watches, buying businesses, hiring a full time tennis coach after the murder part of mental health too? And about being molested, do you even stop to think that saying they were sexually molested were nothing but a walk in the park after they murdered their parents?
You have to put yourself in their shoes. They were young adults, finally free of their parents tournament. Plus back then, or even now even though mental health is talked about so much, i dont think it crossed their mind to seek professional help. they did what thwy thought would help them move on. @michelleclarke8500
The fact that the mom was in on it too is so disturbing. 2 adults making children just to torchure them for their benefit. Sick!
@@michelleclarke8500 the shopping spree was irrelevant IMO
This entire story is soooo twisted 😢
Not twisted use your brain
People will be so angry if they are not set free. This is horrific. Not setting them free will be sending the wrong message to victims of abuse.
Shoulda went to the cops instead
That’s crazy that at the second trial they couldn’t make claims of abuse…..🤦🏻♀️
The DA's office needed a win after the embarrassment OJ gave to them......the justice system is fucked
i still don't understand how it was omitted in the second trial.
I agree. They should be released with time served. They've been punished enough. I'm sure they wished they did things differently. I get why they killed their parents. It wasn't the right or smart thing to do. They just cracked and felt no one will help them.
Money as a motive never made sense. Those boys had all the money when their parents were alive.
They didn't have control over it. Big difference...
Not only that but even after their parents death they only got around a million a piece. They didn’t get what they thought they would originally get.
@@Chad_MaxTrue but think logically. If they wanted money then yes, they would murder them, but they would also want to cover it up. A gunshot is not something you do when you want to hide a murder. You would use poison or something undetectable.
They were also told by their father that they were removed from the will.
@@Chad_Max Well, it wasn't like they were going to get it since they were removed from the will
They will be out in 2 months, no new trial needed , time served. Talk of town in LA right now. I think they will be driven back to DTLA.
And it’s well deserved. The judge should have been disbarred for forcing the hand of the jury, it’s unbelievable this was allowed to stand.
What is dtla? Downtown LA?
Why would they want to go back to California? Unless they still have family there?
@@kw9568California is a big state and it has a lot of natural beauty.
Downtown Los Angeles, because their trial was there. They will have to go to court to get time served and release.
Where will they live? I don’t know, I would assume between San Diego and Los Angeles.
The courthouse???@@kw9568
Well shouldn’t all prisoners who fit the menendez criteria be freed?
what prisoners are these ?
Very true
Please concentrate about “abuse” and it depends on case , not all prisoners should free
If the prisoners killed people because they were in danger then yes, they should be freed.
If they served their time for the murder(s) they committed, yeah.. probably.
Justice for the Menendez brothers ❤️❤️
this comment section shows that some of y’all didn’t even bother watching the whole trial or read any evidence, embarrassing. they deserved better
Obscene miscarriage of justice they shud have been released years ago.
Lol why
They have been in prison since the day they have been born. It's time for them to have freedom for once in their life
Even the day before they were born was spent in a prison like womb
The same can be said of many people in prison. Should we let them all go free? 🤔
@@janjr165 The fact you would equate their situation to other prisoners who are in there due to basically bad parenting is pathetic
@Randy218_ Your bleeding all over the place, stop defending these entitled a-holes!
@@greg6122 Look who's talking! 😂 You act like you knew the parents l personally. Like there were multiple accounts supporting their claims abuse and even family members have come showing their support for them. Like it's not that hard to Google, which is free btw and actually do some research of your own, instead of just going off of what you see with that surface level kind of thinking.
They’ve served more than enough time for their crimes. They’re not a danger to society. Let them free!
So you’re comfortable having them as neighbors then? They shot and killed their abusers while they watched TV. The imminent threat to their lives was what?? They shot them several times, stopped and reloaded and shot again.
Yes @@yvettetorres7829
Don't mind these young and dumb internet trolls... They would never let them in their house..
Yeah ok fangirl. Why don't you write them some love letters too?
@@yvettetorres7829 I would be more then comfortable they aren’t 18 and 21 anymore everyone deserves a chance I’m pretty sure there parents would want them to be out
Free Lyle and Erik!!!
Until it's backwards
What's the difference between them and Gypsy Rose?
Nothing if the Mendez brothers were the menendez sisters they would have been freed
Gypsy was legally and physically held captive by her mother. She tried to get away more than once, but her mother found out and brought her back. She also was cut off from people her own age and from most means of communication. THAT is the difference. Lyle and Erik could have left at any point. They could have gone to police, filed a restraining order, etc. but they did none of that. Instead, they went straight to murder.
@@dragonwitch27they were terrified of their father. erik has said that he tried to run away, but jose threatened him. you are disgusting for defending those “parents”.
@dragonwitch27 The situations aren't same because Gypsy's mother had no power or connections/money. Their dad did and used everything he could against them. If you get abused for so long in childhood, it makes you unable to imagine making it out on your own because you don't know what that is like. And considering family members have supported them and what happened, another victim has come forward as well shows in their favor. Look at the Diddy case, he got away with a lot because he had money and power to cover his butt.
@@nbuny I could care less what you think of me. If they were abused, they have my sympathies. That doesn't allow you to take the law into your own hands though. That's not how civilized societies operate. Most people also don't go on shopping sprees after murdering their parents either.
I think they’re getting out. Time served already surpasses a manslaughter sentence. New trial would end up with an Alford plea.
Radicalized liberal hypocrites likes to harbor and pardon violent career criminals
just so those reading know, alford plea means you're maintaining your innocence. they confessed to the killings.
but yes, time served surpasses manslaughter sentence by almost 20 years
@@transcendcapitalism no dude alford plea is when you claim your guilty.
@@king...675 nope, alford please is when you maintain your innocence but take the plea, usually to end seemingly endless legal proceedings.
@@transcendcapitalism no its not lmao, on the record your guilty so you cant find jobs or anything but when there are numerous pre trials then you usually take an alford plea
They serve long in jail, it's Time to set them Free!
Set them free!!
The father being a music / entertainment executive is likely THE real monster, we've heard all the stories about the entertainment industry. It makes sense
the father literally corroborated with and enjoyed being close "pals" with Edgardo Diaz who basically ran a pedophile ring under the guise of the music group Menudo. Edgardo Diaz is also someone else LA county wants to ignore. But I bet if they arrested him and gave him a plea deal in exchange for evidence about Jose Menendez, he might do it. He must have so much hidden knowledge about how sick Jose Menendez was, since apparently they liked molesting boys TOGETHER.
There parents still abusing them in there minds. This is to much let them free!
They’d have to be the best actors alive to have recounted (time and time again) their testimonies and interviews if they were lies.
They wrote the plot already. Their lives depend on the scenario.
Have see you start wars?
It's unacceptable that the prosecution ignored the abuse they endured for so many years.
Their crime was an act of hate. But abuse should never be ignored.
I think they paid enough with 35 years in jail. They should be given the opportunity to re-start their lives now.
Free the Menedez Brother's
Yah parole them to your home.
I hope they get justice and be free
I watched this today. It was REALLY good. The more I watch actual footage of what happened, the more I believe them.
Justice for these guys ❤!the fact that in the second trial they were not allowed to talk about their abuse just shows you how far we’ve come as a society. The world was so … idk if to say naive or blind to the deeper issues that a lot of young boys and girls suffered back in the days and even now
One of the prosecutors even said that men couldn't be raped because they lacked the necessary equipment to be raped. Like omfg how'd she get her degree?
LET THEM OUT
IDK: everyone seems to be forgetting how they partied big time spent many many thousands quickly after the murder. I just do not know.. very grown big men, if they were being abused I cannot fathom not getting out without murder..people DID know about child abuse in that era. TV shows should not move the justice system.
They weren’t grown big men. After years of mental, physical, sexual abuse they didn’t see a way out. Expect for violence which is what they were surround by
EXACTLY.
@@Goldmelanin16: There were MANY more ways to deal with their trauma than murdering their parents. Period.
@@janjr165Well why didn’t you help them? Are you helping others escape situations like this?
They are already rich. They have been incredibly rich every since they were born so they never worry about money and do not care too much about money. Plus they are sole inheritors anyway. There is no point in committing this kind of crime just for money. It just does not make sense.
Free the brothers this is horrific what they went through and the fact that they’ve spent 35 years in prison, they did their time
Set them FREE!
To your house on parole. We need less idiots who know it all in this world.
You would know about that. They have served 35 years with no infractions! They teach speech, meditation and have made presentations on how to improve prisons. The Warden at their prison has stated that they need to be set free. I would be fine with them living next door to me. I have male friends that were victims of SA and their behavior coincides with theirs.
Notice that Netflix is messy 🤦🏿♀️
Free them.
I Can't Wait To Watch This Netflix Documentary, Because Ik For A Fact They're Not Lying About S3xual Abuse From Their Parents
How tf do you know for a fact?
@@Sew28 Because of the evidence? Their family members all testified against Jose Menendez and some of them even confessed that they have actually seen Erik begging for lemon in his food because lemon made him taste his dad’s semen less. Other than the family’s testimony, just look at them testifying. Do you think a person who killed their parents for money would have such a reaction while telling the whole world during their televised trial that they were abused by their dad pretty much their entire life while also giving details about how it happened and when it happened and where it happened and reliving those immensely traumatic moments that they had to start dealing with at 6 years old???
@@estelleaoun1660 bs
''Now the abuse is likely to be true''. MANNN culture of silence as Erik has mentioned is terrifying! Well, the truth is always unfold at the end.
They’ve served their time
They only give af now because of Netflix 😂
🤦🏽♀️ this has been in the works for over a year
Probably
They have been giving af for yrs
Why didn't Lyle testify again at their last trial?
@@Tim82ATW Bc Lyle came out and said that it was bc of the tapes that Norma wrote and also knew that if he testified, he would have been cross examined unfairly
What is everyone’s obsession with these two, how many prisoners are in jail with similar stories.
Because it was fairly new to televise court cases
do prisonners with similar stories have been given life sentences ?
Money
The thing of it is, these days, our society is more knowledgeable about the scars from abuse and life without parole is much much less likely to happen these days. Further, it’s been justifiably argued that if we were discussing the Menendez sisters, they would not have gotten the same sentence
EXACTLY.
We're so much more aware now about trauma of child sex abuse and talking about it.
We didn't talk about it back then. The system failed these young men, and then punished them for it.
I hope justice is finally served and they are free for paying the price of the abuse of their father.
SET THEM FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
‘We’re not saying there was anything wrong with the original trial’.. that’s funny, because there was plenty wrong with that trial.
Guys I’m sorry but I’m sure they were abused and it was horrendous and no excuses for that . St eod , murder isn’t the answer
Shut the fuck up if it was you getting abused and u killed ur parents u would feel the same way they feel that you should be release so get the fuck out here
No they were not abused. The father threatened to cut them off financially because they were a couple of criminals and losers. So they blasted away both parents to get to the money.
@@firenze5555im gonna assume u only watched the netflix bs
@@axeliaa2148 I'm gonna assume you're hired PR or a convict groupie.
@@firenze5555 so what about the actual witness of the family they even said Jose was a horrible dad would hear Jose doing stuff in Erika room what about the letter 8 months before the murder. You are so fucking delusional dawg ong would smack u if i saw u
The thing on Netflix is far from a documentary… Mock-umentary more like
There are two shows on Netflix about them right now. The first one, "Monsters" is the one you're referring to (and I agree). It was highly fictionalized. The second one, "The Menendez Brothers" just came out yesterday, and it is indeed a documentary. That's where the recent interview clips with the brothers in this video are taken from. I encourage you to watch it.
Its not murder its self defense against years of abuse and future abuse,,,they have to set them selves free no one was there to help
How come a letter now emerges after so many years...?
I think the guy who he wrote the letter to passed away and a loved one found it while going through his stuff.
their aunt found it hidden in storage for 20 years
This is so obviously a huge miscarriage of justice. Heartbreaking. Thankfully they had each other. They are about my age and I remember them being tied nobody talked about the abuse. People were too uncomfortable entertaining the possibility that a father could do this to his sons, and mother could turn a blind eye. It’s so sad. I hope they are released and go on to live out their lives in peace.
People who aren't our age/weren't alive back then can't understand how it worked back then. Your parents (and husband for that matter) could pretty much do whatever they wanted. Legally, it was extremely hard to get someone arrested for child abuse unless it was incredibly horrible. They could have "just left" and the cops wouldn't have done a thing to their parents. Nothing. Especially because they are male.
@@d.263 spot on. And the discomfort around admitting to any family abuse, particularly for families not poor or otherwise obviously in distress, was even harder. And particularly incest and pedophilia. It basically contained every criminal element that is to this day repugnant to society. It required admitting that this is happening in “respectable” families, which of course it was and is, but people didn’t have the courage to admit it. It was easier instead to focus on the victims’ crime, make them the objects of outrage. These two paid a steep price for our whole society lacking the courage to look at these, the hardest things, unflinchingly.
@@Mary-tj5qx Agree to all that! Until recently, it was all about blaming the victim. "Why didn't she just leave?" "Why did they wait until now to say anything?" "What was she wearing? She was asking for it" "Boys can't be molested, they can fight back" All BS. I don't know if younger people now can understand how male/perpetrator-oriented laws were back then. And in this case the judge was horrible. They deserve a new hearing/sentencing asap. I wonder why 2nd degree was never an option?
@@Mary-tj5qxI watched the testimony and Erik testified his mom sexually molested him, too, like until 13
Free them
Even if they were released nothing could ever repay what they went through
Equally, nothing can bring their parents back because the brothers murdered them.
@@janjr165 why would anyone want to bring them back??? They were barely human
@nicolasmagalhaeslussim2711 they were human don't be childish they did not deserve to die they deserve to be in prison yes but not dead don't be childish
I had no idea they were pushing the boundaries of the culture of their time during the case - of course that 90s culture predictably spat that back at them in the face.
How could the mother not protect them??? So baffling.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of bad mothers in the world. It is hard for me to fathom, because I had a loving mother, but I know a ton of people who had bad mothers. Often victims of abuse themselves, so they don't know any different or they become abusers themselves. Hurt people, hurt people.
Because she was pickme
maybe because their story is riddled with lies?
@@educatedguess5093You’re disgusting. There is lots of evidence out there that they were being sexually abused. Their mothers sister even testified in their favor.
@@educatedguess5093 there are mothers that let their sons be abused (sexually, physically and/or psychologically) for the sake of maintaining the family "united".
I suggest you to google the Henry Borel case.
I wouldn’t say release them but reduce their sentence maybe?
They’ve already served 35 years for killing their abusers. Let them go.
They have been in prison their entire life, and now having served 35 years in an actual prison, it’s time they get out. They have endured enough.
They haven't even begun to serve their sentences, two counts to 1st, pre-meditated. Even if abused many years before murders, there's no law on the books which allow a person to murder their abuser, especially without the right of the alleged abuser to confront their accuser.
@CharismaSpencer no they should get a lighter sentence tbh
I really think they could be freed. It's a new time and there's so much evidence. It would be amazing to see.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be paroled; I do think it's been long enough BUT at the end of the day they murdered two people. I believe they choose to murder them mainly for the money and to keep their lifestyle.
Never underestimate the influence of media and public pressure over the court systems
They're behind bars because they murdered their parents in cold blood because they wanted to continue the free financial ride their father had them on. They were too spoiled and felt entitled. Instead of being productive members of society, they failed at petty crimes and decided to kill their parents for money. It's easy to see these two killers were acting in court as victims. Those tears were not due to that story of supposedly being assaulted by their father, it was their pathetic and desperate attempt at swaying the jurors. You can see the arrogance and cocky attitudes oozing from their faces and body language if you really watch. Leave these murderers in prison where they belong for life. These dudes are sociopaths.
💯
They cried coz they got caught and wanted the jury to be convinced it’s not a manslaughter.
It was not the trauma or grief or anything. The 911, the eulogy, the spending spree, their background of robberies and stealing from their parents.
The motivation was money, look how they smile and their eyes lit up in the interviews.
2:23 that’s the wildest moustache I’ve ever seen
they have been in jail my whole life
they need to be freed
Why is everyone trying so hard to defend murderers! They did not do it in self defense. They took the lives of 2 people. Tell me whats worse...
Rape claims were disallowed in the 2nd Trial because the law says rape doesn’t give you the right to murder anyone. So it was only gonna play on juror’s heartstrings, when it was never gonna be allowed to color their verdict. Since the rape allegations had already been heard in the first trial, and all it did was hang the jury, the judge decided to streamline the 2nd jury’s decision with only evidence directly pertinent to a verdict. Saying rape, rape, rape in THIS case was a waste of time (in both hearings) because it wouldn’t have excused their acts.
Everything is wrong with the original trial!
They need to free these guys it's unbelievable theyve kept them in jail so long
The bottom line is, even if they were being abused, they still killed premeditatedly and in Cold Blood.
This evidence should have affected the Punishment, but not the Conviction for the Crime.
Seems like 35 years time served is about right.
The 2nd trial was skewed in favor of the prosecution by not allowing the abuse as evidence and certain people to testify. It didn’t help them on the first trial so the Judge denied it into the 2nd & also changed charges they could be convicted of.
I don't believe these monsters🤬 ...if their father was SA both of them ..but why did they stay with their father in their 20s ..btw why delete their mother 😮what did she have to do with their SA ...this Z zombie generation is sick for seeing these two monsters as victims..😤
Exactly!! They had other options and don't forget Lyle threatened to kill the doctor and his family! Why didn't Lyle testify again at their last trial?
You only watched the Netflix show, huh? Their mother KNEW about the abuse going on, and did absolutely nothing. Any GOOD mother would immediately take their children out of there.
@@Tim82ATW he didn’t testify because someone unlawfully recorded calls, in which he wasn’t even saying things as terrible as everyone played it out to be.
The old "why didn't they just leave?" Is such a tired question. Clearly you've never been abused.
@@TheRoyalNewspaper they didn't leave because they were going to be cut out of the will...so it's about the money, period
While I believe the sexual accusations, I don't believe for a SECOND they were in fear of their lives. I believe years of anger and resentment built up and the idea of getting all that money if their parents were dead was a very appealing idea.
You summed it up right there. 👍
I don't believe that they were sexually abused. I think that their parents were furious because they were already a couple of criminals arrested for robberies of neighbors' homes of $100,000 and Lyle got kicked out of Princeton for cheating so the father threatened to cut them off financially. That's when the brothers decided to murder both parents to get free access to the money.
EXACTLY.
Erik was suicidal though. Better them than him
@CliffordXHA1...educate yourself on the trial. So worn out with armchair lawyers. Lyle had been given a condo and he was moving. Erik wanted to escape via college. Before he left his father told him he had to stay at home. He was being SA'd from the ages of 6-18. He knew if he lived at home the abuse would continue. In a state of panic Erik finally confessed to Lyle. Lyle and Jose got into a screaming match about it. Jose was a known abuser. The people that worked with his stated they weren't surprised when they heard about his fate. It was well known in Puerto Rico he was an abuser. He abused members of the band Menudo. He also was associated with cartels and the mafia.
Free them!!!!! It’s more than fair!!
Free the Menendez brothers! The parents were the real monsters!
The Menendez Brothers Documentary Is So Very Incredible !
Indeed it is. I cried so much.
The prosecutor needs to be held responsible
I cant see GMA anymore after hearing about their deliberate coverup for Harvey Weinstein. Especially George.
Two spoilt brats spent long years plotting new defense. They always get what they want and now they want out.
They were too cool too. Cocky was all about money money. They went out and you could see them even during this time. They just were smiling all the time they were in the news. They were somebody they had the money so they thought. Anyways keep them in prison. That's where they belong
They emptied two shotguns, reloaded them and emptied them again. They knew what they were doing.
It doesn’t matter how much you are abused, it doesn’t give you the right to murder your abuser.
The DA is will review everything and will uphold the charges, if anything is changed it would create a legal precedent for murder being the answer for abuse.
Abuse is beyond wrong. These boys were tortured, and I can’t say I would’ve done anything different than what these two boys did. I feel so bad for them, and if court and cases were based on emotion- they should’ve never been in jail this long.
The problem is, it has to be based on law. Where is the substantial proof that their mom abused them and left both of them with absolutely no choice but to kill her.
You aren’t going to be able to prove that, ever.
Their word, means nothing. Why? Because when someone does something in self-defense they are honest- these two lied and had the police searching for other people for weeks.
Too many things don’t add up, legally.
So yeah, I feel bad that their dad was a complete asshole who raped them- BUT that doesn’t give them the right to not only kill him, but his wife as well.
They have been incarcerated long enough regardless.
i just read the only reason they got caught was because erik told his doctor that he did it and his doctor told his mistress. the doc broke up with his mistress and his mistress got mad and told the cops. thats wild
Yes and Lyle threatened to kill the psychiatrist. And people wanted those psychos released
@@Violet-fj8yd insane
@@Violet-fj8ydLyle didn't threaten the dr
Hmm my father molested me everyday for 7 years and I didn't murder him .. not just that mental and physical abuse as well to my sisters and my mother also... never murdered my father....
I’m so sorry that happened 😥🙏🏼 prayers for your healing and your sisters and mother. Women rarely commit murder compared to men
You what's crazy people will scroll past this comment because they desperately want the menendez brothers murder to make sense which is crazy on the side note I hope your doing well mate and I'm sorry that happend to you❤
This is how dangerous integrated psychopaths are. They ruin lives even if its their own blood relatives. Look how disgusting and nefarious their father was that his avise is still affecting them 30 years later. I hate him
Good thing their pappy is right where he belongs.
Why did she say netflix "documentary". Its not 100% accurate and should not be called a documentary.
A documentary was released today, October 7th. on Netflix called THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS. The series which they had no part of is called Monsters
there’s Netflix’s documentary and Ryan Murphy’s sick narrative drama
I see which one you’re talking about. You’re talking about the show called “MONSTERS” that was directed by Ryan Murphy. Yeah you’re right, it is inaccurate and is definitely not a documentary. But, there was an actual documentary released today called “THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS” on Netflix, featuring over 20 hours of call and “interviews” with the brothers while they tell their own story. So this one, is a documentary because they’re the ones who are doing the talking. 😊
They still blasted their parents and tried to cover everything up.
I wish y’all would put this energy into people who Actually didn’t kill anyone but were falsely convicted. Instead of people who actually committed the crime yes they were abused but at the end of the day they made their choice.
It's not mutually exclusive, both situations deserve attention.
Who says we can’t do both ? You can donate to the innocence project and read up on people who have been falsely convicted
Yes, they made that choice. But why is the real question..
EXACTLY!
@@katchristina5243 and if you really want to help innocent people I’d look into how to save Robert Roberson, an autistic man in Texas who will be executed the 17th for being falsely accused of shaking his daughter to the point of death
Set them free it’s not an easy thing being abused it really messes with your mind.
Set them free
And a lot of families there is sexual abuse and rape. People don't go and kill their parents or family members everyday because of this with all about money and greed. Stop feeling sorry for them. They like to play it, play it up to the camera and to anybody that will listen. They're guilty guilty of sin
They were old enough to move out and go to the police. They could have jumped in the car and left if they were in fear for their lives instead of pulling shotguns out and going back into the house.
Their father was a Hollywood executive and it was 1989. It's unlikely that anything would have been done.
Sounds like you don't know what its like to be abused. An abuser never leaves you. no matter how far you run.
The way that they lied and lied to the police and said it was the mafia after the murders - and then went on a million dollar spending spree. They belong behind bars.
@@firenze5555 They did not tell the police it was the mafia. All they said is that it could have been business-related. The mob angle was something the police came up with when looking into Jose's business. If the cops had done their job correctly and followed proper police protocol, Lyle and Erik would have been arrested that night. The money they spent after the killings was in keeping with their lifestyle, none of that money came from the estate and they had to get approval from their relatives for all the purchases they made.
@@Muirmaiden They lied their asses off. The brothers were budding criminals. They had been arrested previously for theft of $100,000 (that would be $250,00 in today's money) of cash and property of their neighbors' homes. Lyle had been kicked out of Princeton for cheating. Erik wrote a screenplay about a son who murders his parents for money. FACTS. When his fed up father threatened to cut them off financially, the brothers murdered both parents for money.
Set them free? WTF is everyone on in comments?
It's clear that you never watched the case
We're on the anti kiddydiddling train.
Watch the testimony from the trial in the 1990s..!
@@etherealdeal1792 Same goes for you
It’s time for them to be set free!
The recipient of that letter testified in the first trial. Those jurors failed them, as did the judge in the second trial.
Didn’t Erik expose himself and the plot already ? Lol
Let them go!!!
even is they were molested or abused they werent in inminate danger when killing. furst degree murder
What the Hell is there to review! Let them go! Those poor men have been through enough! 😢
They killed their parents
Why did they not move they were adults
I think they killed them because they was afraid to be disinherited
It was about the money i think
Ewen if they were abused its not ok with murdered
Legally they're adults at 19 or 18 but they're not really equipped to move out. Why is it so difficult to understand that SA by family members is so common and could have happened to them as well?