6:16 #1 copying from others' trees 11:05 #2 raking the leaves 12:50 #3 unorganized 14:17 #4 where are records? 17:03 #5 family lore 19:19 #6 siblings research 21:17 #7 F.A.N Club 26:24 #8 ThruLines 29:33 #9 Card Catalog 32:25 #10 Research Notes
Card catalog? We haven't used cards for decades. Ridiculous. Too Ancestry-centric for my taste, and using the term "sin" is also ridiculous. Better luck next time.
Word of advice: Start talking with your older relatives and collect those family stories NOW. I'm a late bloomer WRT to researching the family and there's almost nobody left to get stories/information from. :(
Oh Connie, clicking on those little green leaves was so exciting when I started. I had no idea that there were people with as little actual knowledge as me out there on the other side of the green leaf. I clicked away in great excitement !
The FAN hints about checking neighbors on a census helps to find missing persons on other censuses, through cross-check of City Directories, especially on earlier censuses without street information. Also helps when the census indices have wildly misspelled names, either through error or illegible census-taker's handwriting.
My father began genealogy in the 1960s via family interviews, cemetery walks, and microfilm. I picked up the bug in 1992 before the internet. Most of my research is pre-internet from visits to archives and courthouses, much of which is still not on the internet. I don't source my trees. It would take me years to attach documents and many of them aren't available online. I use FTM and transcribe every document into the notes section in chronological order. I research a minimum of 3 generations of very ancestral sibling.
My research was mostly done by family members a couple of generations before me. They went to libraries, court houses, and cemeteries. As I have looked at ThruLines, the info agrees with what I already have from those family members.
I would add to researching siblings. Check why they died if nothing else. I learned too late that heart disease in children was in our family. If you know this in today's age they can check in utero to see if there is a concern. Wish I knew this 18 years ago when my great nephew was born.
As a kid, all of my father’s family talked about “Grandma Josephine” around the kitchen table. So when I saw a family tree for her and looked at all of the sources, I immediately linked her to my tree. Why not? These names and places were all stories I grew up with. I later found that she was the second wife and that my line was related to the first wife. Grandma Josephine was not even related to me. But, she raised my ancestors to the point that it didn’t matter. She will always be Grandma Josephine. It was a good lesson in my early research days.
Even if she wasn’t a blood relative, she will still be family. However, have you made notes to the effect on your tree stating that? To future generations, she will be some one they cannot link to themselves.
Whatever you do, don't start over. You likely did some good work there... just review and mark as Verified. See this video for more on that subject. Start Over or Verify Your Family Tree ua-cam.com/video/u61c69VsekU/v-deo.html
Family stories are one of the reasons I started this journey. I found that some are just stories and some are true....just slightly different, like game of telephone
I “copy” and categorize by last name on the computer- I also put a”copy” on the appropriate blog - I have four family blogs. I also have two blogs that show the lines for my rev war veterans and mayflower -all direct line ancestors.
Hello, from Quebec, Canada! I missed the live! Thank you for this video! Since I am listening and following you on UA-cam, my family tree is much better since I follow all your good tips! I learn every time! And the challenge is accepted! 😁
I am thankful that my sister joined me in doing our family research. Together, we researched a family lore and have brought some doubt to the lore and how factual it is. Thanks for all you do!
"Raking the leaves" is a great expression -- thanks! And I agree, for most ancestors (those well known and proven) it is an utterly useless activity. Many thanks for the entertaining video.
Challenge was accepted. I used your hints to focus on my potential great-great-grandfather. Along with Diahan's Best Mystery Match hints. I believed I found him. Using this method helped my narrow and focus on him. I also used your Census Record Excel hint in the process. In two days I was able to find him. Yes, I used the tags: floating tree tags, Unverified, See Comments, and other custom tags to streamline my research. I was surprised how many of my DNA hints linked into my tree once that person was found. Yes, Research notes were done. Thank you!!!!
Thank you so much for your tools! I have been researching for 28 years, and have been watching you for the last 2 or 3 years, thank you so much! From South Australia....
Yes! About thru lines. I've already found something wrong. I'm going to follow your advice and not worry about it, lol . Really enjoy your videos. They are very helpful.
So much of my family is from rural va ga and nc, and there’s like 10 families that intermarried like crazy . So I zoomed out and started taking note of the various family groups. It’s made a huge difference
Verified or not, I NEVER import from someone else's tree! If they have records showing, I will search those records myself and include that data in my tree FROM the record, but NEVER from another tree! Even if I know the owner of said tree, such as a cousin etc.
Yes, back when I started with Ancestry I copied others’ trees with impunity! I was just so darn excited to see all those generations. When I started seeing British nobility show up I began to realize there was some questionable data out there. I didn’t delete that tree, and still refer to it sometimes for sibling info, but I retitled it as “Unverified.” I then started over with a tree I call “Direct Line Verified.” No info is added unless I can verify with a solid source. When I built the new tree I was still working full time and didn’t have time to deal with all the hints, so I limited this tree to only my direct line. I do still use siblings as a research tool as you recommend. I will use your #2 item on resource questions, and the advice I have seen you give about focusing on one person at a time. That should help me tremendously, along with getting organized!!
Thank you for this podcast! The only sins I'm guilty of in your list are #4 and #9, but that is due to the learning curve, as genealogical research is a learned process. While I have done #1, I vetted those sources first before even considering a merge. I majored in English literature, so researching was a part of my curriculum; I use those research skills for family research; however, I still have much to learn. I'm trying to up my game in this process; the videos on genealogy research have helped me begin to slowly chip away at one brick wall, but there's still a long way to go to get back to Ireland and Scotland. Researching in the 18th century doesn't help; my ancestor and his family have been largely elusive.
Thank You! I love watching you on You Tube. THIS IS exactly what i need right now. Not focusing on one person, not keeping proper details, going down a rabbit hole…. Your way of documenting is even better than person timeline❣️
Missed notification when went live, still enjoyed watching recording immediately after. Since I was raised Catholic, use of "sins" in title gave me a good chuckle! Sin #1 YES YES YES!! ... so many times I see questions on FB about doing this, whether from other trees or ThruLines. Personally, I never ever copy .. I compare what I find with what I have then research to verify or add to shoebox for later review. I
In the past, I created "research trees" in ancestry where I played around with information I found on other's trees so I don't mess up my main tree. I also have used comments in the past to remind myself and others that I am not 100% sure. I've never used tags so I will have to learn more about those.
I investigated family lore that was passed down from generation to generation, while I was in Germany this year and found documents to prove the lore was right. Sometimes there is at least a little truth in family stories/lore. You just have to search to find it. Great video!
Guilty as charged…to some extent. I use other people’s trees as research tools not as fact. Same thing with hints. Seems like people in 1700 - 1800 America all had the same popular names! At least in my tree. Then you have to search where they were born or who their offspring were to get the right person. That’s where census records come in handy. But old census records can be frustrating with only the head of household listed. Anyway…the search continues. Great show.
I often watch episodes on TV which doesn't give a chat option. I use your research suggestions, and wow what a help! I found one of my brick walls; my 2x great grandmother's family before she got married.
I've used many different internet sources. National Libraries, online newspapers, Ancestry, Family Search, NGS library, a local genealogist in Germany, even my little local library. I paid that German genealogist, he did a translation. I was able to read the archaic German myself since it is more like a code than a language.
Great video Connie!! You mentioned adding a weblink to a floating tree/person - would you add the weblink of the profile you feel the floater would belong to? Could there be other weblinks I should look for?
What I was talking about is adding a weblink in your ancestors profile to the floated and visa versa. So you want to make sure you have a weblink in the floaters profile back to the ancestor. It's actually easier just to create a custom tree tag that you name as Floater or Floating Tree... so you can filter (in your tree view) to the floaters in your tree. We used the weblinks before Tree Tags were a thing. :)
I will look at tree matches & then look at what information they have. I have found multiple mistakes(I thought the tree owner should know better, obvious mistakes). So now I will look at see what they have and if they have the information that is correct I will save to my tree, but won't attach their tree to my info.
Rule 1. Yes I am breaking it. I am building an unknown paternal tree based on Genetic matches only because the closest paternal match of the subject is at Great or 2nd Great Grandparent level. He has many many genetic matches and the trees of those individuals are well documented on Ancestry and Family Search. I can only build this tree from the top down. One of the matches at 2nd great grandparent has 72 genetic descendants that appear to match the online trees at least at the upper levels. Verification will come when I can connect to the subject whose father I am trying to find among 33,000 paternal matches. Fun days
So that is acceptable. That is called the Quick and Dirty tree strategy and is part of what we do when we're trying to quickly lay out a genetic tree. I try to mark them as unverified in the tree tags though. I did a video on this strategy calle d Quick & Dirty Branch Using Ancestry ThruLines™ ua-cam.com/video/ECH8YL08XIk/v-deo.html
One thing you didn't mention is not to assume companies like Ancestry are correct. Their transcriptions are often appalling (e.g. I have an ancestor called Eliza King who has been transcribed as Cloga Bling), their knowledge of geography is non existent (e.g. transcribers think the United Kingdom is a country and an alternative name for England which it isn't), transcribers don't understand how to write the address of a church (e.g. East Ham, St Bartholomew, Essex, England which should be the Church of St Bartholomew, East Ham, Essex, England), Ancestry staff seem to think America is the only country in the world and everybody will have a matching record that locates an individual in America even when there's no real evidence that the individual had ever set foot in that country. The worse thing is that when we subscribers raise any of these issues we are totally ignored, despite paying a lot of money year on year. How do I know this? I have raised these issues time and time again via the website and in person at family history shows, as have my many cousins 'discovered' through researching my family history. Nobody in Ancestry takes any notice whatsoever. At this point you may wonder why I use Ancestry. It's only because in the early days of research I discovered that Ancestry had a logical way of compiling the tree itself and now I've got so much information on Ancestry that it would be too much work to store it anywhere else.
Challenge Accepted!! Actually, I started doing the research notes after your presentation on this and I find it so much more helpful than hit-and-miss research notes that I used to do! Thank you, Connie! (Will see you on the FORG presentation in August!!)
I've just started my second tree because I built my first one using thrulines and other trees thinking it was all reliable. Spent a lot of time on the tree and then going back over it I realise it's full of mistakes. It's unfixable. There should be warnings for this on Ancestry when people start. I was a total noob
Not investigating the siblings- for me, they're some of the interesting people. Grandpa's brother and Great grandpa's brother were two of the interesting relatives. They were elected to different groups, and are the ones I can find info on. Especially in newspapers. Them and Grandma's grandpa. Grandma's grandpa was an early settler of Oshkosh, had a hardware store, shipping company (back when it was ships), built the first bridge on the Wolf River, and more recently, I found newspaper articles from around the state about the bridge, which he apparently had to go to Madison to get permission for the bridge, and I found info on the permission for that. He was apparently in the city council, and turned the top floor of a hall he owned into a place to ride bikes. I took a picture of a page in a book about bicycling in Wisconsin where it talks about him.
I found a mini-bio of my 2nd great grandfather’s brother that gave some info on their parents and childhoods that really helped me with my research on the family. Another more distant example came when I started filling out my 6th great grandfather’s branch because I was curious to see which of his brothers had also fought in the Revolutionary War. That ‘s when I found his brother William, who had fought in the war, but even more interesting to me was his family. He and his wife had 15 children, including 4 sets of twins, but only had three grandchildren. Of the 11 children to survive to adulthood, only two married and just one had any children of her own. Four of the children joined the celibate religious sect the Shakers in Maine, which fascinated me because I had done a presentation on the Shakers in grad school, long before I got into genealogy.
I questioned if I’d found the right person for a GGGM in my tree, decided to check the neighbors on the census and found my GGGF living two houses down lol easy work
I once tracked the source records that Ancestry users were citing and eventually ended up back on my own tree as the original source! If I am not sure I just check the "maybe" instead.
As much as I personally dislike "lives" because they are so scattered that I cannot focus on the lesson, I did get something from this. Quit raking the leaves. It is so discouraging to find a direct connection to your family only to find they copied the wrong information from another wrong tree. I'd like to fall in love (or at least like) with the FS Wiki. Looking for something to help me do that. Thanks Connie.
We had a story that every family historian and genealogist put in every single book that was put together, and there were several. It just never made sense to me, I couldn't make it add up, so I dug into it. Story goes that this ancestor lived in Germany, and was "kidnapped at the age of 8 by a ship's captain, and taken on board to be a servant. When the ship got to America, they dumped him in PA, and he went to work, ran off with the boss's daughter and married her at 16. He was the only person of that name to immigrate to America, and was the father of the entire line." Well, I found his parents' arrival records in NY, they came here several years before he was born, bringing with them several children who were born in Germany. I found his baptismal records, for the same year he was born in America, with a twin brother, and several other siblings born after him.
Sometimes getting the low hanging fruit (hints) is key to developing a single family. This would be before you get specific information At that point I would develop a research plan
Thank you for the awesome videos. I NO LONGER KEEP PAPER COPIES. ALL MY DOCS ARE ON MY ANCESTRY TREES AND FTM 2019. WHY SHOULD I KEEP PAPER COPIES? MAYBE IT'S OBVIOUS, BUT I HAVE OVER 53,000 PEEPS AND THEIR DOCS, I'D NEED A WAREHOUSE.
Thank you Connie for ALL of your hardwork and sharing of skill (and sins :) to help us in our research. I am curious what streaming platform you are using: eCamm, Streamyard, etc? I was using one for a bookclub, interviews, etc. it was somewhat limited. Wanted to investigate others. Thanks so much for your time.
I have been very careful when I get info from ancestry member trees or thru lines. Thru lines in particular keeps trying to give me ancestors I know are wrong.
Any "genealogist" who says not to investigate family lore is NOT a genealogist in any consideration whatsoever. Family Lore= Oral History= where there's smoke, theres fire= Prove or Debunk it. A lot of societies respect Oral History /Family Lore.....you should too. -Doreen Goslin-Walton
I can also attest to some family lore truth. While going through my dad's things I found a document written probably in the 60s from my dad's 2nd cousin detailing family history of who married who and what children were born. I have been able to prove 95% of that document as truth from researching the names and people. The only part i have not been able to prove is my 2x great grandfather's parents and his uncles that were supposedly from Virginia and moved to kentucky in the early 1800s.
Sorry that I missed this live show but I just found your channel. That first mistake, Copying other trees without sources. I did this early on and now I have mistakes in two of my lines. How do I go about fixing this? Do I start deleting people without sources? My tree is substantial with almost 40,000 people.
Don't feel bad, we've all done it. Two videos for you to watch. One is called Start Over or Verify Your Family Tree ua-cam.com/video/u61c69VsekU/v-deo.html and the other is Fixing Ancestor Relationships on Ancestry.com ua-cam.com/video/aLqzsRuc0jw/v-deo.html
Awee, missed the Live. Adelaide, Australia here. If I see something for an ancestor from another tree, I put it in that ancestor's Notes to check later.
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6:16 #1 copying from others' trees
11:05 #2 raking the leaves
12:50 #3 unorganized
14:17 #4 where are records?
17:03 #5 family lore
19:19 #6 siblings research
21:17 #7 F.A.N Club
26:24 #8 ThruLines
29:33 #9 Card Catalog
32:25 #10 Research Notes
Thank you, Juliana!!!
thank you!
Ouch. This is tedious.
Card catalog? We haven't used cards for decades. Ridiculous. Too Ancestry-centric for my taste, and using the term "sin" is also ridiculous. Better luck next time.
Word of advice: Start talking with your older relatives and collect those family stories NOW. I'm a late bloomer WRT to researching the family and there's almost nobody left to get stories/information from. :(
And don’t forget to record your own stories too 🙂
@@clairem730 Good point! And I've had an ...um...interesting life so I have lots of stories.
Unfortunately, recently I became the older generation
The worst thing I ever did was use someone's tree before I knew to check it!!!!!
We've all been there.
Oh Connie, clicking on those little green leaves was so exciting when I started. I had no idea that there were people with as little actual knowledge as me out there on the other side of the green leaf. I clicked away in great excitement !
You're not alone. We've all done it.
The FAN hints about checking neighbors on a census helps to find missing persons on other censuses, through cross-check of City Directories, especially on earlier censuses without street information. Also helps when the census indices have wildly misspelled names, either through error or illegible census-taker's handwriting.
Great video! Another reason to research siblings, especially death records, is to find maiden names and sometimes additional spouses.
Yes!
My father began genealogy in the 1960s via family interviews, cemetery walks, and microfilm. I picked up the bug in 1992 before the internet. Most of my research is pre-internet from visits to archives and courthouses, much of which is still not on the internet. I don't source my trees. It would take me years to attach documents and many of them aren't available online. I use FTM and transcribe every document into the notes section in chronological order.
I research a minimum of 3 generations of very ancestral sibling.
My research was mostly done by family members a couple of generations before me. They went to libraries, court houses, and cemeteries. As I have looked at ThruLines, the info agrees with what I already have from those family members.
Late to the party … love from Australia
I worked at WTHR in Indianapolis and KSPR in Springfield, MO. I love your show and appreciate your background!!!
Yeah! Another TV person.
I would add to researching siblings. Check why they died if nothing else. I learned too late that heart disease in children was in our family. If you know this in today's age they can check in utero to see if there is a concern. Wish I knew this 18 years ago when my great nephew was born.
As a kid, all of my father’s family talked about “Grandma Josephine” around the kitchen table. So when I saw a family tree for her and looked at all of the sources, I immediately linked her to my tree. Why not? These names and places were all stories I grew up with. I later found that she was the second wife and that my line was related to the first wife. Grandma Josephine was not even related to me. But, she raised my ancestors to the point that it didn’t matter. She will always be Grandma Josephine. It was a good lesson in my early research days.
Even if she wasn’t a blood relative, she will still be family. However, have you made notes to the effect on your tree stating that? To future generations, she will be some one they cannot link to themselves.
I am very guilty but this is the result of years not knowing better. Trying to redo my methods without starting over.
without lozing
Whatever you do, don't start over. You likely did some good work there... just review and mark as Verified. See this video for more on that subject. Start Over or Verify Your Family Tree ua-cam.com/video/u61c69VsekU/v-deo.html
Family stories are one of the reasons I started this journey. I found that some are just stories and some are true....just slightly different, like game of telephone
I “copy” and categorize by last name on the computer- I also put a”copy” on the appropriate blog - I have four family blogs.
I also have two blogs that show the lines for my rev war veterans and mayflower -all direct line ancestors.
Hello, from Quebec, Canada! I missed the live! Thank you for this video! Since I am listening and following you on UA-cam, my family tree is much better since I follow all your good tips! I learn every time! And the challenge is accepted! 😁
Ah thanks.
I am thankful that my sister joined me in doing our family research. Together, we researched a family lore and have brought some doubt to the lore and how factual it is. Thanks for all you do!
So jealous! I’ve been trying to get my family to take an interest with me but it hasn’t yet worked
"Raking the leaves" is a great expression -- thanks! And I agree, for most ancestors (those well known and proven) it is an utterly useless activity. Many thanks for the entertaining video.
Yeah... raking the leaves... that's one I came up with a few years ago. I thought it was appropriate. Thanks for watching.
Watched this one AGAIN!! I’ve been researching for years….& it always helps to go back to our community for reminders!! Thank you 🙏
Glad it was helpful!
Challenge was accepted. I used your hints to focus on my potential great-great-grandfather. Along with Diahan's Best Mystery Match hints. I believed I found him. Using this method helped my narrow and focus on him. I also used your Census Record Excel hint in the process. In two days I was able to find him. Yes, I used the tags: floating tree tags, Unverified, See Comments, and other custom tags to streamline my research. I was surprised how many of my DNA hints linked into my tree once that person was found. Yes, Research notes were done. Thank you!!!!
Excellent work June! Nice! Yay!
Hello from Vancouver Washington 😊
I'm watching this 7 months after screening I'm in Australia. Your programs have helped me a lot
Thanks
Guilty! of copying without researching. 😊 But not since I've been following your wonderful videos!! ❤
Awesome! Thank you!
Watching the replay from SW Missouri.
No wonder you are so good with all those buttons!!
Thank you so much for your tools! I have been researching for 28 years, and have been watching you for the last 2 or 3 years, thank you so much! From South Australia....
Ah you are so kind. Thanks Australia for sending me another great viewer!
Yes! About thru lines. I've already found something wrong. I'm going to follow your advice and not worry about it, lol . Really enjoy your videos. They are very helpful.
Thank you
So much of my family is from rural va ga and nc, and there’s like 10 families that intermarried like crazy . So I zoomed out and started taking note of the various family groups. It’s made a huge difference
Nice! Hey thanks for becoming a channel member.
@@GenealogyTV absolutely! Your channel has been a great help to me already and I’ve only just found it, gotta support
Verified or not, I NEVER import from someone else's tree! If they have records showing, I will search those records myself and include that data in my tree FROM the record, but NEVER from another tree! Even if I know the owner of said tree, such as a cousin etc.
Yes, back when I started with Ancestry I copied others’ trees with impunity! I was just so darn excited to see all those generations. When I started seeing British nobility show up I began to realize there was some questionable data out there. I didn’t delete that tree, and still refer to it sometimes for sibling info, but I retitled it as “Unverified.” I then started over with a tree I call “Direct Line Verified.” No info is added unless I can verify with a solid source. When I built the new tree I was still working full time and didn’t have time to deal with all the hints, so I limited this tree to only my direct line. I do still use siblings as a research tool as you recommend. I will use your #2 item on resource questions, and the advice I have seen you give about focusing on one person at a time. That should help me tremendously, along with getting organized!!
Good for you! Keep up the verified work!
Lmao yes I just recently decided to change my tree name to ‘WORKING family tree copy with caution!’ 😅
It’s true. When I started I copied trees. Now I am super careful. Undoing errors is so difficult.
Thank you for this podcast! The only sins I'm guilty of in your list are #4 and #9, but that is due to the learning curve, as genealogical research is a learned process. While I have done #1, I vetted those sources first before even considering a merge. I majored in English literature, so researching was a part of my curriculum; I use those research skills for family research; however, I still have much to learn. I'm trying to up my game in this process; the videos on genealogy research have helped me begin to slowly chip away at one brick wall, but there's still a long way to go to get back to Ireland and Scotland. Researching in the 18th century doesn't help; my ancestor and his family have been largely elusive.
This was great. Thank you. Greetings from Sydney, NSW, Australia.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank You! I love watching you on You Tube. THIS IS exactly what i need right now. Not focusing on one person, not keeping proper details, going down a rabbit hole…. Your way of documenting is even better than person timeline❣️
Wonderful! Thank you.
Hello from Arizona! Everything is working.
Missed notification when went live, still enjoyed watching recording immediately after.
Since I was raised Catholic, use of "sins" in title gave me a good chuckle!
Sin #1 YES YES YES!! ... so many times I see questions on FB about doing this, whether from other trees or ThruLines. Personally, I never ever copy .. I compare what I find with what I have then research to verify or add to shoebox for later review. I
Yeah... I was a little worried about using the word "Sin" in the title. I didn't want to offend anyone.
In the past, I created "research trees" in ancestry where I played around with information I found on other's trees so I don't mess up my main tree. I also have used comments in the past to remind myself and others that I am not 100% sure. I've never used tags so I will have to learn more about those.
Joining you from Northumberland England. Loud and clear.
Watching you from Nampa Idaho.
I investigated family lore that was passed down from generation to generation, while I was in Germany this year and found documents to prove the lore was right. Sometimes there is at least a little truth in family stories/lore. You just have to search to find it. Great video!
Awesome. Thanks.
Council Bluffs, IA. Now but from Montana originally.
Dallas, TX loving your videos!!!
Glad you like them!
💕❤️ greetings everyone Melbourne Victoria Australia
Audio is from fine, watching from NJ
Guilty as charged…to some extent. I use other people’s trees as research tools not as fact. Same thing with hints. Seems like people in 1700 - 1800 America all had the same popular names! At least in my tree. Then you have to search where they were born or who their offspring were to get the right person. That’s where census records come in handy. But old census records can be frustrating with only the head of household listed. Anyway…the search continues. Great show.
Thanks
I did not know about tags on profiles. I will be using them.
Connie your amazing ❤❤ & love it when you go live 💓💓
Thanks for excellent information……Happy New Year from Nova Scotia, Canada!! 😊
Happy new year!
Love all your shows!!!! I will be joinging again soon!!
Thanks Melissa
Hello Connie… Portland Oregon
I often watch episodes on TV which doesn't give a chat option. I use your research suggestions, and wow what a help! I found one of my brick walls; my 2x great grandmother's family before she got married.
Glad I could help!
I've used many different internet sources. National Libraries, online newspapers, Ancestry, Family Search, NGS library, a local genealogist in Germany, even my little local library. I paid that German genealogist, he did a translation. I was able to read the archaic German myself since it is more like a code than a language.
Great video Connie!! You mentioned adding a weblink to a floating tree/person - would you add the weblink of the profile you feel the floater would belong to? Could there be other weblinks I should look for?
What I was talking about is adding a weblink in your ancestors profile to the floated and visa versa. So you want to make sure you have a weblink in the floaters profile back to the ancestor. It's actually easier just to create a custom tree tag that you name as Floater or Floating Tree... so you can filter (in your tree view) to the floaters in your tree. We used the weblinks before Tree Tags were a thing. :)
The challenge is on!
Yes! Love it.
Good Morning from Florida Love your UA-cam videos
Thanks so much
Challenge accepted!!
Thank you for all of your expert advice! ❤
Always enjoy your vidios....Igoing to go back tomorrow and start doing your ideas......
Awesome! Thank you!
Audio great. Pat- Hooksett NH
I will look at tree matches & then look at what information they have. I have found multiple mistakes(I thought the tree owner should know better, obvious mistakes). So now I will look at see what they have and if they have the information that is correct I will save to my tree, but won't attach their tree to my info.
Great idea to create a tree tag for "See web link"! 🙂
Thank you! 😊
Hello Connie from Morag in Dundee on the east coast of Scotland
Hello Scotland!
Hey from Ripley, TN
Hello from Erlanger KY
Love your videos. I also research Anson County, NC.
Thanks for watching neighbor.
Great video. Learned a lot from it.
From Michigan
This was great. Thankyou Connie from Australia
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You’re brilliant, I love you
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Thank you for the helpful info. Your volume is too low so the commercials are loud and startling. Especially with ear buds. 😊
I appreciate that. I have the same problem watching UA-cam with various videos I try to optimize my audio. Thanks for the feedback.
Rule 1. Yes I am breaking it. I am building an unknown paternal tree based on Genetic matches only because the closest paternal match of the subject is at Great or 2nd Great Grandparent level. He has many many genetic matches and the trees of those individuals are well documented on Ancestry and Family Search. I can only build this tree from the top down. One of the matches at 2nd great grandparent has 72 genetic descendants that appear to match the online trees at least at the upper levels. Verification will come when I can connect to the subject whose father I am trying to find among 33,000 paternal matches. Fun days
So that is acceptable. That is called the Quick and Dirty tree strategy and is part of what we do when we're trying to quickly lay out a genetic tree. I try to mark them as unverified in the tree tags though. I did a video on this strategy calle d Quick & Dirty Branch Using Ancestry ThruLines™ ua-cam.com/video/ECH8YL08XIk/v-deo.html
One thing you didn't mention is not to assume companies like Ancestry are correct. Their transcriptions are often appalling (e.g. I have an ancestor called Eliza King who has been transcribed as Cloga Bling), their knowledge of geography is non existent (e.g. transcribers think the United Kingdom is a country and an alternative name for England which it isn't), transcribers don't understand how to write the address of a church (e.g. East Ham, St Bartholomew, Essex, England which should be the Church of St Bartholomew, East Ham, Essex, England), Ancestry staff seem to think America is the only country in the world and everybody will have a matching record that locates an individual in America even when there's no real evidence that the individual had ever set foot in that country. The worse thing is that when we subscribers raise any of these issues we are totally ignored, despite paying a lot of money year on year. How do I know this? I have raised these issues time and time again via the website and in person at family history shows, as have my many cousins 'discovered' through researching my family history. Nobody in Ancestry takes any notice whatsoever. At this point you may wonder why I use Ancestry. It's only because in the early days of research I discovered that Ancestry had a logical way of compiling the tree itself and now I've got so much information on Ancestry that it would be too much work to store it anywhere else.
I hear you.
Hi from Central NewYork
Hello there!
Challenge accepted!! I’m a it late but watched in full & picked up a few helpful hints as well.
Awesome! Thank you!
Challenge Accepted!! Actually, I started doing the research notes after your presentation on this and I find it so much more helpful than hit-and-miss research notes that I used to do! Thank you, Connie! (Will see you on the FORG presentation in August!!)
Hey Jennifer. Thanks for supporting the channel. Glad the notes are helping. See you at FORG.
I use The Who, What, Why, Where in, Where are, and How?
Ancestry..... Please eliminate the limit on Custom Tags. Also, Can we PLEASE be allowed to search BY LOCATION??? -Doreen Goslin-Walton
AMEN!!!!!
I've just started my second tree because I built my first one using thrulines and other trees thinking it was all reliable. Spent a lot of time on the tree and then going back over it I realise it's full of mistakes. It's unfixable. There should be warnings for this on Ancestry when people start. I was a total noob
Hello from Rochester Minnesota
Not investigating the siblings- for me, they're some of the interesting people. Grandpa's brother and Great grandpa's brother were two of the interesting relatives. They were elected to different groups, and are the ones I can find info on. Especially in newspapers. Them and Grandma's grandpa. Grandma's grandpa was an early settler of Oshkosh, had a hardware store, shipping company (back when it was ships), built the first bridge on the Wolf River, and more recently, I found newspaper articles from around the state about the bridge, which he apparently had to go to Madison to get permission for the bridge, and I found info on the permission for that. He was apparently in the city council, and turned the top floor of a hall he owned into a place to ride bikes. I took a picture of a page in a book about bicycling in Wisconsin where it talks about him.
I found a mini-bio of my 2nd great grandfather’s brother that gave some info on their parents and childhoods that really helped me with my research on the family. Another more distant example came when I started filling out my 6th great grandfather’s branch because I was curious to see which of his brothers had also fought in the Revolutionary War. That ‘s when I found his brother William, who had fought in the war, but even more interesting to me was his family. He and his wife had 15 children, including 4 sets of twins, but only had three grandchildren. Of the 11 children to survive to adulthood, only two married and just one had any children of her own. Four of the children joined the celibate religious sect the Shakers in Maine, which fascinated me because I had done a presentation on the Shakers in grad school, long before I got into genealogy.
Dave 65 years research from Richmond, Indiana
I'm really new and I will copy information if it's something I already know from personal family knowledge
Stick around. You’ll learn a lot on this channel.
Sometimes, in thrulines, there are dash lines around people that are in my tree.
I questioned if I’d found the right person for a GGGM in my tree, decided to check the neighbors on the census and found my GGGF living two houses down lol easy work
Yes!
I once tracked the source records that Ancestry users were citing and eventually ended up back on my own tree as the original source! If I am not sure I just check the "maybe" instead.
As much as I personally dislike "lives" because they are so scattered that I cannot focus on the lesson, I did get something from this. Quit raking the leaves. It is so discouraging to find a direct connection to your family only to find they copied the wrong information from another wrong tree. I'd like to fall in love (or at least like) with the FS Wiki. Looking for something to help me do that. Thanks Connie.
Enjoy the journey @genealogygrandmother
Guilty! And I am trying to fix this!
Hello from Southwest Utah!
Here from Denver.
We had a story that every family historian and genealogist put in every single book that was put together, and there were several. It just never made sense to me, I couldn't make it add up, so I dug into it. Story goes that this ancestor lived in Germany, and was "kidnapped at the age of 8 by a ship's captain, and taken on board to be a servant. When the ship got to America, they dumped him in PA, and he went to work, ran off with the boss's daughter and married her at 16. He was the only person of that name to immigrate to America, and was the father of the entire line." Well, I found his parents' arrival records in NY, they came here several years before he was born, bringing with them several children who were born in Germany. I found his baptismal records, for the same year he was born in America, with a twin brother, and several other siblings born after him.
Well there you go. This is why we dig deeper.
Sometimes the Thrulines doesn't show the match because of different spelling. Totally agree with Connie. USE As Hints. Do Genealogy.
❤️💕. Tips & checks. Sources
Challenge accepted. Great presentation
Awesome! Thank you!
Sometimes getting the low hanging fruit (hints) is key to developing a single family. This would be before you get specific information At that point I would develop a research plan
Thank you for the awesome videos. I NO LONGER KEEP PAPER COPIES. ALL MY DOCS ARE ON MY ANCESTRY TREES AND FTM 2019. WHY SHOULD I KEEP PAPER COPIES? MAYBE IT'S OBVIOUS, BUT I HAVE OVER 53,000 PEEPS AND THEIR DOCS, I'D NEED A WAREHOUSE.
Thank you Connie for ALL of your hardwork and sharing of skill (and sins :) to help us in our research. I am curious what streaming platform you are using: eCamm, Streamyard, etc? I was using one for a bookclub, interviews, etc. it was somewhat limited. Wanted to investigate others. Thanks so much for your time.
For this one I was using vMix
I have been very careful when I get info from ancestry member trees or thru lines. Thru lines in particular keeps trying to give me ancestors I know are wrong.
Smart of you.
Sounds and looks good!!
Thanks for your continued support.
Any "genealogist" who says not to investigate family lore is NOT a genealogist in any consideration whatsoever. Family Lore= Oral History= where there's smoke, theres fire= Prove or Debunk it. A lot of societies respect Oral History /Family Lore.....you should too. -Doreen Goslin-Walton
I can also attest to some family lore truth. While going through my dad's things I found a document written probably in the 60s from my dad's 2nd cousin detailing family history of who married who and what children were born. I have been able to prove 95% of that document as truth from researching the names and people. The only part i have not been able to prove is my 2x great grandfather's parents and his uncles that were supposedly from Virginia and moved to kentucky in the early 1800s.
Oh that sounds like gold when you find a document like that.
Sorry that I missed this live show but I just found your channel. That first mistake, Copying other trees without sources. I did this early on and now I have mistakes in two of my lines. How do I go about fixing this? Do I start deleting people without sources? My tree is substantial with almost 40,000 people.
Don't feel bad, we've all done it. Two videos for you to watch. One is called Start Over or Verify Your Family Tree ua-cam.com/video/u61c69VsekU/v-deo.html and the other is Fixing Ancestor Relationships on Ancestry.com ua-cam.com/video/aLqzsRuc0jw/v-deo.html
Awee, missed the Live. Adelaide, Australia here. If I see something for an ancestor from another tree, I put it in that ancestor's Notes to check later.
Hey I have family who live in Adelaide, Australia. :) Small world.
Dang! I missed the live.😪 I was at work. 🤪 Going to watch the replay on my lunch break! 😊