I certainly don't "love" my job but I started to really appreciate it when I realize that I could really balance it with hobbies. I think when I was younger, having a regular job and doing hobbies sounded like a failure in some way because you didn't do anything big. But when you live a life when you have a normal stable job and time for hobbies, it actually great.
I feel like also one of the reasons why people hate their 9-5 job is because of social media. They think they have to be an influencer in order to have a fun life. They see what those people have and they want to have the same. There is nothing wrong with working a fun 9-5 job people need to stop comparing them self :) We need nurses, teachers, doctors… and there are a lot of people who do love their 9-5 and do it with passion I love that!
Had to comment on this because I JUST quit a very toxic 9-5. I previously loved working 9-5, putting on my office outfits, making friends at work, etc. You are so right that it’s impossible to make a toxic situation work. I am so thankful for how frugal I was/am so I was able to quit with nothing lined up :) I am looking forward to a new year with a new job and never having to deal with my toxic boss + coworker ever again!
My 9-5 is PERFECT, extremely well paid, big honored name, can work from anywhere, nice office, NICE COWORKERS, best bosses BUT I cannot bring myself to like 9-5 because of philosophical reason - I don’t think we exist here in this wonderful life to work, romanticizing 9-5 is like gave up for capitalism myth that lies to us. Also, for capitalism reason, it’s too evil to blindly like my job when the system is SO unethical and dehumanizing. I can’t abandon my self aware and class consciousness just because I’m comfortable with my 9-5. I have the most happy life as a working class in capitalism but this doesn’t stop me from rebelling it for what truly human meant to do.
Can I ask what you do? Like a line of work you are in, not specifically where you work. I'm trying to figure out my passion and would love to know about different jobs... Working from anywhere actually sounds great. But I agree with you. I'm also having a hard time accepting that we have to follow a certain work model that was suggested by some bloke in the 19th century (who btw first demanded we work for 10 hours lol). We upgraded in so many ways, our technology is so much more advanced, so why don't we also upgrade the way we work? One example is scandinavian 6 hour model, which was suggested years ago, but it seems it's barely pushing through, although all the reasearch suggest that people are way more effective, motivated, productive and happy because of a better life-work balance. A happy worker is a good worker, right? Especially since in Europe we tend to starting working a bit earlier in the morning... But in a money driven society it's hard for those ideas to come through.
this is a great point, thank you for sharing!! I’m struggling with that too from time to time but I’m hoping for a better future - remote work and flexible hours are certainly steps in the right direction!
I will always despise working a 9-5 because i don't believe that we should have to sell our time for 40+ hours a week in order to survive BUT I do remind myself of the benefits I have. I work remotely 3 days a week, the office is a short walk away, I get well paid, I understand what I'm doing, I don't love some of my colleagues tbh but my work is appreciated & regularly commended, I have one close work friend, and i love one of the managers i work closely with who is so supportive, I'm glad i have evenings & weekends off and my remote days allow me amazing flexibility to be able to enjoy my day.
Valid point, I agree that the work week is too long (I’m really hoping for a 4 day work week in the future)- sounds like you have a good setup though and I’m glad it (kind of) works for you!
BIG +1 to “the people who care about you as a person don’t care about what you do for work” when I detached my personal identity from my job, I felt so much more free. Suddenly pursuing a better higher paying job wasn’t a betrayal it was me trying to find stability. Hobbies and creativity outside work are huge!!
Thanks, Johanna, that was a great video! I sometimes feel like, within our generation, one is considered "uncool" / uncreative / boring if working a 9-5 and/or corporate job. However, I like the stability and routine that it gives me. It's actually really good for my mental health and provides somewhat of a safe feeling. Viele Grüße aus München! :)
Thats why I love being in the public sector because of the stability, while everyone around me in London fears being laid off day-to-day. 9-5 can be stressful and unproductive, and it doesn’t work in a toxic environment. If right opportunity and flexible, it’s perfect for a nice day routine!
I love your last point that the 9-5 is a tool. Recently quit my 9-5 because I hated having no time and living in London where wages just don't allow you make future plans without having two incomes. Some people hate their jobs because the economy no longer makes the trading of time for a salary that doesn't cover living costs worth the stress. I took the leap and found a remote job that means I can now travel the world and create travel content on UA-cam in my spare time. I have a new '9-5' that I don't hate because it gives me something integral to my happiness and the change in perspective was me no caging myself into my old job. I practiced gratitude for all the good things I had in my old job whilst I looked for a new one but sometimes we must listen to our bodies and move towards our purpose. I can understand that a 9-5 gives so much security but that security can quickly because a cage if we are unhappy and unwilling to take risks.
love that you found a remote role that works better for you!! 😊 totally agree, it really depends on your job, your personality and also your priorities - I was willing to take a salary cut for remote working opportunities because that is more important to me. you have to make sure it’s right for YOU
I really appreciate the stability my 9 to 5 affords me. Recently there's been a lot of personnel change which has been stressful (always leads to more gossip). But I like what you said about viewing your 9 to 5 as a tool for passion projects. I've been more strict with my boundaries, and that's allowed me to sew, read, and bake more.
I loved this video. I don’t think I will ever go freelance due to my career - working in law but for me working at a job that is a bit more chill and well remunerated is what a want. A job that has a good environment and I get to do what I love. Or even something slightly different but engaging. Not everyone can be freelance but I think it’s about finding the right job for you.
Loved this video! I just quit a toxic 9-5 before the start of this year. I’m excited to join a new 9-5 office as I have belief there is plenty of great ones out there.
yeyyy so happy for you that you were able to leave your toxic job, must’ve felt so good! I’m sure there’s something better for you out there; fingers crossed 💛
this was a great video & totally agree on setting boundaries as well as your job/role not defining you as an individual - there is more to us than what we do for a living 🙏🏾✨️
I really liked your point of view, thanks for sharing. Here in Brazil, we usually work 8-6, which is heavy and tiring. Most people struggle to enjoy working, and working from home is not a common option. We see companies starting to be more flexible, and I hope things change because, otherwise, it would be difficult to find balance and set boundaries
I have been having the same thoughts recently too, but actually a stable well-paid job, especially one that is remote is actually pretty awesome. It means you can get a mortgage or easily move and find a new place to rent. It means you can save and have investments, and you can still try out side businesses and your hobbies. I have been trying out self-employment for a long time and I found it much more difficult than I expected. Remote working wasn't really a thing last time I did office jobs which was a big reason why I struggled with them, but I think that if I had a remote job working from home that would actually work for me pretty well. I agree that freelancing and self-employment doesn't suit every personality type or every skill set or every person situation and you have to weigh up what is right for you. There's also the option of working part time and being self-employed part time.
Working part time and part time freelance is actually my dream setup haha, hopefully one day!! Totally agree, 9-5 can be tough sometimes, but I’m also grateful for all the positives like stability, being able to afford a mortgage, career development etc!
We seem to work in similar fields and I could relate on lots of it. I liked the part: your 9-5 does not define your personality. I took me some time to learn that. What came into my mind in addition was that I learned so much within my corporate job (been working and growing in my role since 4 y now (also studied something completely different)) that I believe I would have not learned somewhere else or freelance in that timeframe. really developing skills and practicing setting those boundaries you also spoke of, trying out things in a kind of save setting, time management, communication with clients and teams to only name a few, are all skills that can be so useful in the future if it’s in private life or freelance ❤ love your content and to follow along, thanks for sharing
Über deine 9-5 Überschriften bin ich zu deinem Kanal gelangt! Ich wollte endlich mal nicht nur die negativen Seiten von einem "normalen Job" gezeigt bekommen und habe Leute Im Netz gesucht mit deren Lifestyle ich mich etwas mehr identifizieren kann! 9-5 hat so viele gute Seiten, es ist nicht für jeden....aber für viele Menschen definitiv eine gute Wahl! ❤
Actually this worked completely opposite for me. I mean having passion outside of the job. I became frustrated that I have to spend 8h at the office and 2h commuting unable to do what I really love. Too tired to do it. I spent my weekends solely on my passion to get as much of it as possible. After 2 years I burnt out. Both in my passion and my job. Hate both to guts.
Really good video I like the stability too glad you found a job that’s not toxic because if it is like you said you can change your attitude as much as you want but it will never get any better unless of course you’re someone who doesn’t care at all which for nice talented people I think it is impossible not to care about the atmosphere
I don't hate my job, however, in March I'll reach the ten year mark working in the same company, I'm a person that embraces change so for me it was clear two years ago that I need to quit, I just didn't have a good reason, till I decided I want to go back to uni full time and finish my Anthropology degree (due to the panini I was able to make it through the second year) and also start a masters (that one would be next year).
I think that working only 7h/day is really really nice. Here in Spain, not everybody can get this scheduled, and a lot of people work 8h/day between the morning and the afternoon, starting at 9:00 or 10:00 and finishing at 21:00, so…😅
Hi! Randomly passed by but really like your video! I was thinking the same but just want to add that, a full-time job is extremely time-consuming (8 hrs a day! Even my job is half -remote as well) which always makes me wonder if we have other options rather than working for other people, pursuing my boss’s dream. I do have hobbies that I am passionate about, but I feel like my 9-5 is eating up my time and energy so I can’t really explore my possibilities. How do you think ? Any tips on keeping yourself motivated /energetic after work?
Glad you enjoyed the video!! I also struggle with this, especially in the winter. What really helped for me was to adjust my routine and self care before, during and after work - I try to go for a walk before work, always make myself a nice lunch, and I workout after work as it helps me relax and sleep. But I totally get you, it really is tough sometime!🥹
I just wanted my boss to stop saying my questions (about this area I’m new and they invited me to help) are dumb. This eliminates all motivation to learn, and I just feel anxious 🤧
Happy new year and I'm so glad to watch this theme from you💻 I'm also working as a remort worker almost every day in Japan. I'm using co-working space, not We Work as you but it's so comfortable for these 2 years, called Biz-comfort in Japan. I feel so blessed because I can do even 7 to 3, or 9 to 5. I've totally got a flexibility after pandemic. Of course, there are so many people in essential workers in service where they cannot do like that...but now I positively think I can do make the most of my good working environment from now on, too! Let's enjoy your coffee,☕ これからもよろしくお願いします！Anna
@ I think the 9-5 is modern slavery, our bodies are not accustomed to that ritm of life, also it’s way worse for women than for men because women’s bodies need more rest
My current job has a healthy working environment, my boss and team are really nice but the job is pretty underpaid :( Im turning 27 in a few weeks and thinking of doing a working holiday in Australia. Im hoping afterwards I can get a job with a higher salary than my current one but Im worried ill have a shitty boss or work environment then :((
it’s soooo hard switching jobs cause you never know what’s on the other side!! I totally understand your concerns, take one step at a time 💛 Australia sounds GREAT
I work as a self employed freelancer and it works fine for me but I got so many interesting thoughts from your video and your perspective on work, boundaries and general life is really inspiring. Lots of love from Germany! 🫶🏻
Hi! Randomly passed by but really like your video! I was thinking the same but just want to add that, a full-time job is extremely time-consuming (8 hrs a day! Even my job is half -remote as well) which always makes me wonder if we have other options rather than working for other people, pursuing my boss’s dream. I do have hobbies that I am passionate about, but I feel like my 9-5 is eating up my time and energy so I can’t really explore my possibilities. How do you think ? Any tips on keeping yourself motivated /energetic after work?
I certainly don't "love" my job but I started to really appreciate it when I realize that I could really balance it with hobbies. I think when I was younger, having a regular job and doing hobbies sounded like a failure in some way because you didn't do anything big. But when you live a life when you have a normal stable job and time for hobbies, it actually great.
totally agree, great point 😊
I feel like also one of the reasons why people hate their 9-5 job is because of social media. They think they have to be an influencer in order to have a fun life. They see what those people have and they want to have the same. There is nothing wrong with working a fun 9-5 job people need to stop comparing them self :)
We need nurses, teachers, doctors… and there are a lot of people who do love their 9-5 and do it with passion I love that!
this is the best comment on UA-cam and all of social media right now. You are 100% correct.
that being said it is really important to have hobbies and activities and a life outside of work.
nurses, teachers and doctors rarely work 9 to 5 tho, its mainly office workers
@@kalasimsy2966 Yes but they still work normal jobs and people like that we need them too.
100% thanks for saying this
Had to comment on this because I JUST quit a very toxic 9-5. I previously loved working 9-5, putting on my office outfits, making friends at work, etc. You are so right that it’s impossible to make a toxic situation work. I am so thankful for how frugal I was/am so I was able to quit with nothing lined up :) I am looking forward to a new year with a new job and never having to deal with my toxic boss + coworker ever again!
All the best with your job search. I am hoping to make a similar move too
well done for leaving your toxic work environment, they did not deserve you!! hope you can enjoy the in between time to properly heal and recharge 🫶
My 9-5 is PERFECT, extremely well paid, big honored name, can work from anywhere, nice office, NICE COWORKERS, best bosses BUT I cannot bring myself to like 9-5 because of philosophical reason - I don’t think we exist here in this wonderful life to work, romanticizing 9-5 is like gave up for capitalism myth that lies to us. Also, for capitalism reason, it’s too evil to blindly like my job when the system is SO unethical and dehumanizing. I can’t abandon my self aware and class consciousness just because I’m comfortable with my 9-5. I have the most happy life as a working class in capitalism but this doesn’t stop me from rebelling it for what truly human meant to do.
Can I ask what you do? Like a line of work you are in, not specifically where you work. I'm trying to figure out my passion and would love to know about different jobs... Working from anywhere actually sounds great. But I agree with you. I'm also having a hard time accepting that we have to follow a certain work model that was suggested by some bloke in the 19th century (who btw first demanded we work for 10 hours lol). We upgraded in so many ways, our technology is so much more advanced, so why don't we also upgrade the way we work? One example is scandinavian 6 hour model, which was suggested years ago, but it seems it's barely pushing through, although all the reasearch suggest that people are way more effective, motivated, productive and happy because of a better life-work balance. A happy worker is a good worker, right? Especially since in Europe we tend to starting working a bit earlier in the morning... But in a money driven society it's hard for those ideas to come through.
this is a great point, thank you for sharing!! I’m struggling with that too from time to time but I’m hoping for a better future - remote work and flexible hours are certainly steps in the right direction!
Needed this SO BAD on this Sunday night before going back to work after the holiday break. Thank you for the mindset and inspiration ✨
glad I could reduce the ultimate Sunday scaries!!🥹
I will always despise working a 9-5 because i don't believe that we should have to sell our time for 40+ hours a week in order to survive BUT I do remind myself of the benefits I have. I work remotely 3 days a week, the office is a short walk away, I get well paid, I understand what I'm doing, I don't love some of my colleagues tbh but my work is appreciated & regularly commended, I have one close work friend, and i love one of the managers i work closely with who is so supportive, I'm glad i have evenings & weekends off and my remote days allow me amazing flexibility to be able to enjoy my day.
Valid point, I agree that the work week is too long (I’m really hoping for a 4 day work week in the future)- sounds like you have a good setup though and I’m glad it (kind of) works for you!
BIG +1 to “the people who care about you as a person don’t care about what you do for work” when I detached my personal identity from my job, I felt so much more free. Suddenly pursuing a better higher paying job wasn’t a betrayal it was me trying to find stability. Hobbies and creativity outside work are huge!!
same here, glad you could relate!!💛 people that care about you will hype you up for finding a role that’s better paid, go you!!🥳
Thanks, Johanna, that was a great video! I sometimes feel like, within our generation, one is considered "uncool" / uncreative / boring if working a 9-5 and/or corporate job. However, I like the stability and routine that it gives me. It's actually really good for my mental health and provides somewhat of a safe feeling. Viele Grüße aus München! :)
@@leakartable like it should! Happy that you love it!
I struggled with this a lot!! but I’m actually so much happier now than when I was a creative freelancer, we just need to do what’s best for us!
that was such an interesting topic! thank you for covering this, I also work at a corporate and sometimes it’s easy to forget the good sides of it…
Thats why I love being in the public sector because of the stability, while everyone around me in London fears being laid off day-to-day.
9-5 can be stressful and unproductive, and it doesn’t work in a toxic environment.
If right opportunity and flexible, it’s perfect for a nice day routine!
totally agree!! 😊
I love your last point that the 9-5 is a tool. Recently quit my 9-5 because I hated having no time and living in London where wages just don't allow you make future plans without having two incomes. Some people hate their jobs because the economy no longer makes the trading of time for a salary that doesn't cover living costs worth the stress. I took the leap and found a remote job that means I can now travel the world and create travel content on UA-cam in my spare time. I have a new '9-5' that I don't hate because it gives me something integral to my happiness and the change in perspective was me no caging myself into my old job. I practiced gratitude for all the good things I had in my old job whilst I looked for a new one but sometimes we must listen to our bodies and move towards our purpose. I can understand that a 9-5 gives so much security but that security can quickly because a cage if we are unhappy and unwilling to take risks.
love that you found a remote role that works better for you!! 😊 totally agree, it really depends on your job, your personality and also your priorities - I was willing to take a salary cut for remote working opportunities because that is more important to me. you have to make sure it’s right for YOU
I really appreciate the stability my 9 to 5 affords me. Recently there's been a lot of personnel change which has been stressful (always leads to more gossip). But I like what you said about viewing your 9 to 5 as a tool for passion projects. I've been more strict with my boundaries, and that's allowed me to sew, read, and bake more.
Love that!!💛 I’m also logging off at 5pm to work on my crochet project and cook a nice meal😅
I loved this video. I don’t think I will ever go freelance due to my career - working in law but for me working at a job that is a bit more chill and well remunerated is what a want. A job that has a good environment and I get to do what I love. Or even something slightly different but engaging. Not everyone can be freelance but I think it’s about finding the right job for you.
Loved this video! I just quit a toxic 9-5 before the start of this year. I’m excited to join a new 9-5 office as I have belief there is plenty of great ones out there.
yeyyy so happy for you that you were able to leave your toxic job, must’ve felt so good! I’m sure there’s something better for you out there; fingers crossed 💛
this was a great video & totally agree on setting boundaries as well as your job/role not defining you as an individual - there is more to us than what we do for a living 🙏🏾✨️
totally agree, everyone that cares about us as a person doesn’t actually care about what we do for work 💛
I really liked your point of view, thanks for sharing. Here in Brazil, we usually work 8-6, which is heavy and tiring. Most people struggle to enjoy working, and working from home is not a common option. We see companies starting to be more flexible, and I hope things change because, otherwise, it would be difficult to find balance and set boundaries
change is happening but it’s slowww, I really hope it gets more flexible for everyone!!🥹
I have been having the same thoughts recently too, but actually a stable well-paid job, especially one that is remote is actually pretty awesome. It means you can get a mortgage or easily move and find a new place to rent. It means you can save and have investments, and you can still try out side businesses and your hobbies. I have been trying out self-employment for a long time and I found it much more difficult than I expected. Remote working wasn't really a thing last time I did office jobs which was a big reason why I struggled with them, but I think that if I had a remote job working from home that would actually work for me pretty well. I agree that freelancing and self-employment doesn't suit every personality type or every skill set or every person situation and you have to weigh up what is right for you. There's also the option of working part time and being self-employed part time.
Working part time and part time freelance is actually my dream setup haha, hopefully one day!! Totally agree, 9-5 can be tough sometimes, but I’m also grateful for all the positives like stability, being able to afford a mortgage, career development etc!
We seem to work in similar fields and I could relate on lots of it. I liked the part: your 9-5 does not define your personality. I took me some time to learn that. What came into my mind in addition was that I learned so much within my corporate job (been working and growing in my role since 4 y now (also studied something completely different)) that I believe I would have not learned somewhere else or freelance in that timeframe. really developing skills and practicing setting those boundaries you also spoke of, trying out things in a kind of save setting, time management, communication with clients and teams to only name a few, are all skills that can be so useful in the future if it’s in private life or freelance ❤ love your content and to follow along, thanks for sharing
Totally agree!! I learned so many things in my current role that would be so useful if I decide to freelance again :)
Love this so much! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic 🫶🏻. Subscribed ☺️💕
Yeyy welcome💛
Über deine 9-5 Überschriften bin ich zu deinem Kanal gelangt! Ich wollte endlich mal nicht nur die negativen Seiten von einem "normalen Job" gezeigt bekommen und habe Leute Im Netz gesucht mit deren Lifestyle ich mich etwas mehr identifizieren kann! 9-5 hat so viele gute Seiten, es ist nicht für jeden....aber für viele Menschen definitiv eine gute Wahl! ❤
das freut mich sehr 😊 die meisten von uns arbeiten einen normalen Job und das ist ok!! :)
@johanna.helena dankeschön Johanna 🥹 ich bin Studentin, ich lerne Deutsch und ich suche einen Job (Ich möchte in Straßburg arbeiten ❤.)
Actually this worked completely opposite for me. I mean having passion outside of the job. I became frustrated that I have to spend 8h at the office and 2h commuting unable to do what I really love. Too tired to do it. I spent my weekends solely on my passion to get as much of it as possible. After 2 years I burnt out. Both in my passion and my job. Hate both to guts.
I really needed this- thank you!!
Glad it helped!!💛
Excellent tips and honest chat Johanna! 💛😊
Glad you liked the chat!! :)
Really good video I like the stability too glad you found a job that’s not toxic because if it is like you said you can change your attitude as much as you want but it will never get any better unless of course you’re someone who doesn’t care at all which for nice talented people I think it is impossible not to care about the atmosphere
Exactly totally agree!! If it’s toxic, RUN
I don't hate my job, however, in March I'll reach the ten year mark working in the same company, I'm a person that embraces change so for me it was clear two years ago that I need to quit, I just didn't have a good reason, till I decided I want to go back to uni full time and finish my Anthropology degree (due to the panini I was able to make it through the second year) and also start a masters (that one would be next year).
that’s great!! well done for having the courage to leave to pursue your degree :)
I think that working only 7h/day is really really nice. Here in Spain, not everybody can get this scheduled, and a lot of people work 8h/day between the morning and the afternoon, starting at 9:00 or 10:00 and finishing at 21:00, so…😅
I really like flexible hours!! as long as you get the work done, it shouldn’t matter!
Hi! Randomly passed by but really like your video! I was thinking the same but just want to add that, a full-time job is extremely time-consuming (8 hrs a day! Even my job is half -remote as well) which always makes me wonder if we have other options rather than working for other people, pursuing my boss’s dream. I do have hobbies that I am passionate about, but I feel like my 9-5 is eating up my time and energy so I can’t really explore my possibilities. How do you think ? Any tips on keeping yourself motivated /energetic after work?
Yes, I feel you, I am in the same situation and also looking for tips. I hope someone will have some for us 🙏.
Glad you enjoyed the video!! I also struggle with this, especially in the winter. What really helped for me was to adjust my routine and self care before, during and after work - I try to go for a walk before work, always make myself a nice lunch, and I workout after work as it helps me relax and sleep. But I totally get you, it really is tough sometime!🥹
this’s very very useful for worker thank you for shared ❤
Glad you enjoyed the vid!!🫶
I just wanted my boss to stop saying my questions (about this area I’m new and they invited me to help) are dumb. This eliminates all motivation to learn, and I just feel anxious 🤧
that’s so frustrating 🥹
To think about it, i love my job but i despise people i work for..
🥹🥹 might be time for a switch?
Happy new year and I'm so glad to watch this theme from you💻 I'm also working as a remort worker almost every day in Japan. I'm using co-working space, not We Work as you but it's so comfortable for these 2 years, called Biz-comfort in Japan.
I feel so blessed because I can do even 7 to 3, or 9 to 5. I've totally got a flexibility after pandemic.
Of course, there are so many people in essential workers in service where they cannot do like that...but now I positively think I can do make the most of my good working environment from now on, too!
Let's enjoy your coffee,☕ これからもよろしくお願いします！Anna
Happy new year Anna!!💛 that sounds like a great setup, so glad that you can work more flexible hours, really makes such a difference 😊
Wonderful video❤
Glad you liked it!!😊
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Yeah me too after I change it to a 9-1 🙌🏼
lols that would be nice
@ I think the 9-5 is modern slavery, our bodies are not accustomed to that ritm of life, also it’s way worse for women than for men because women’s bodies need more rest
My current job has a healthy working environment, my boss and team are really nice but the job is pretty underpaid :( Im turning 27 in a few weeks and thinking of doing a working holiday in Australia. Im hoping afterwards I can get a job with a higher salary than my current one but Im worried ill have a shitty boss or work environment then :((
it’s soooo hard switching jobs cause you never know what’s on the other side!! I totally understand your concerns, take one step at a time 💛 Australia sounds GREAT
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I work as a self employed freelancer and it works fine for me but I got so many interesting thoughts from your video and your perspective on work, boundaries and general life is really inspiring. Lots of love from Germany! 🫶🏻
thank you, glad you could still relate!🥹
Hi! Randomly passed by but really like your video! I was thinking the same but just want to add that, a full-time job is extremely time-consuming (8 hrs a day! Even my job is half -remote as well) which always makes me wonder if we have other options rather than working for other people, pursuing my boss’s dream. I do have hobbies that I am passionate about, but I feel like my 9-5 is eating up my time and energy so I can’t really explore my possibilities. How do you think ? Any tips on keeping yourself motivated /energetic after work?