Thanks for this video it saves me a lot of time testing. I'm using 4gb vram and my system ram is 16gb only. No significant boost in FPS when increasing vram on AMD APU's. Resizable bar is not compatible with Cezanne processors although turning it on the bios allows it to modify the memory configutration. The only thing that will increase the performance is overclocking the cpu and gpu and of course faster ram.
@@RomanzGame ds3 same thing it needed more than 2gb dedicated all the time so I had to make mine 3gb with resize and now I dont get any stutter in the game
@@shadyb834 it would still be rendering at the same frequency so like I said it will only feel smoother if the game you are playing requires more vram than the value you have set , increasing decreasing quality settings wouldnt get better fps either unless (what Ive already mentioned )
So for example adding 8gb to the vram would just be pointless? And it can even decrease the performance of the pc since it takes part of the system memory (8gb) and allocates it to the vram?
@@Intellectualis yes kinda,more vram will solve stuttering for some games. but fps is for avg is kinda same.and yes it will take part of your system memory
Mine defaulted to 2gb on my 8gb kit, but it depends I think, especially if you have a dgpu in the system because then it will understandably only have 512mb
Na verdade existe uma pegadinha aí por parte do driver da AMD, ele sempre pega memória RAM emprestada para o uso de Vram, percebam que, quando a Vram dedicada está em 512mb o uso de RAM é muito maior, ou seja, existe um empréstimo de RAM para Vram, o próprio windows já faz isso, mas nesse caso o empréstimo ficou mais acentuado. Por isso não conseguimos ver diferença relevante de performance, justamente porque o uso da RAM como Vram acontece de qualquer forma, você configurando no BIOS ou não.
Percebi isso tbm. E também que tem gargarlos com a VRAm pouca 512mb, aumentar a VRam manualmente pra 4Gb ou 8Gb só ajudará diminuir os gargalos. Porém desempenho em fps será o mesmo
Exatamente. O que talvez poderia melhorar um pouquinho seria a diminuição de engasgadas. Mas não sei se faz diferença. O Driver da AMD ignora totalmente a quantidade imposta pela BIOS.
Sim! Eu tenho um Ideapad 3 Ryzen 5 5500u e 8GB de RAM. Hj configurei 512mb de RAM na BIOS e só vi vantagem, pois o sistema usa conforme demanda, mesmo configurado os 512mb, se ele precisar, a placa gráfica vai pegar RAM. Agora, se colocar 2GB na BIOS o usuário apenas deixará de usar esse 2GB no uso comum, ou seja, não há vantagem nenhuma. Deixei 512mb e tive até mesmo um ganho em games que demandam mais RAM, por exemplo, GTA V, o game ficou muito mais estável a 1080p, com alguns filtros em 2X, rodei acima de 45fps direto.
In think the amout of vrams doesnt affect fps too much, its just important for running the game without crashing when you want to change medium or high settings.
Actually, when there's not enough VRAM, the system uses the RAM and since they're in the same clock speed (RAM - VRAM for iGPU) there's no stuttering or something related. Other will be the case if we have super fast VRAM GDDR6 and 6000mhz and slow RAM and 3200 mhz
lol there will be a difference between high and low vram amount in GPU, but for APU whether you allocate 512mb or 8gb VRAM it will still use what it need from shared RAM if you open many browser tabs out side good luck on tapping on those shared ram, your game will choke like hell
increasing vram to 4gb improved the lows's fps giving less stuttering. So for most games 4gb vram looks good if actual ram is 16 gb. Very rare for game to use over 12gb ram. So no performance loss on that front.
@@abstractxit Auto setting sets Vram to usually 512 mb which can hinders performance. I saw difference in No man's sky and Far Cry 5 by about 10 fps after dedicating VRAM to 4gb on 3200 DRR4 CL16 ram.
@@jeetuag if i put it auto i can use maximum 4 gb vram but it doesnt get dedicated i mean when im gaming its just using the ram as vram but when i dedicate that in bios my pcs normal ram gets deducted
It seems like the lack of actual ram bottlenecks the 8gb setup, wonder what'd happen if you had 32gb ram +16vram It's especially visible in CS:GO, a less RAM intensive game, with differences of about 3fps average, but 5 fps gains in some parts
leaving this here as well about my advice. man I can tell you what is my experience, hope it helps: until today I had 2x8gb = 16 CL17 3600mhz and 4 gb redirected to gpu. since today I have 4 of those , not 2. total 32 gb . i straight up redirected 8gb to my apu just to be sure and have another 24gb RAM - 19 usable since windows uses some. the changes are : my pc can now play 4k videos without stuttering. something that before was unwatchable. literally pictures. also, before - i used to play gta 5 rp and because I record, only during recording ,my fps would drop significantly. now since I made the change, I can record and play with the same fps. so no more frame dropping during recording. also, I think photoshop will work smoother since I also edit. video editing the same. so this is what to expect. From my personal experience with this config from last 2 years almost, I recommend this built whole heartedly but with 32gb RAM, not 16gb. The change is subtle as described above, if you are a pro user, like high demand - 32 gb. if you dont care 16 works. i got the same RAM I already had, just 50% off the initial price. a freakin bargain - I have 2x Kingston FURY Beast RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Dual Channel Kit =4 x 8gb
My numbers in Forza Horizon 5 with the included benchmark is 31 FPS on AUTO (preset medium and 1080p) versus 33 FPS and 4GB/8GB, you're really just wasting available RAM while you're not playing.... (And I did it with a fresh reinstall of Windows 11 for these tests...) I hope you'll share your own tests now that you already have 32 GB of RAM.
I don't know about you all but I used this hack to extend my VRAM to 4GB and now I'm seeing roughly 50% boost in gaming performance! This is on 5600G and Gigabyte A520m DS3H board and 16GB of 3533MHz RAM
Im confused, why there is almost no difference at all? Bcs i also use r5 5600g no gpu, didnt know the default was 512mb, i looked around and figured things out, so i dont really understand this fully. I played warhammer 2. 512mb was unplayable even with 1280x720, i cant even play with low shadow. Turned it up to 2gb, it improved significantly. Im looking for a guide how to increase to 4gb. Found this and kinda confused why there is only small difference between 512 mb vs 4 gb vs 8 gb.
Depends on how much the game uses tbh if the vRAM while playing your game is always 100% increasing will help the FPS significantly if not the situation you stated occurs.
I changed Vram on my 4600g via bios (msi A320m) by first changing os mode to UEFI second enabling XBAR and last will allow you to change integrated graphics memory to more than 2GB-16GB then finally change Os to dual mode and reboot, while changing it made no big difference, but some Vram limited games were fully playable.
es lo mismo por qué cuando el pc detecta que se queda sin Vram empieza a usar la ram del sistema lo mismo ocurre con graficas dedicadas lo unico es restarle esa parte de ram dedicada para graficos por lo que sistema usara mas ram sin limitarse (se llama ram compartida con el sistema y lo pues encontrar en configuración de pantallas luego adptador de video)
i think 2Gb of vram is enough. VRAM is more like "reserved" memory so other apps can"t use it and only GPU and Windows can utilized it, but if the GPU need more than 2GB it will take other ram memory (Shared Memory). So better not to set the vram on more than 2GB because it a waste of ram space utilization in general
Not in all cases, sometimes due to compatibility problems it is good to set 4GB, for example, with 2GB of VRAM in Call of Duty BO3 the textures and high shadows did not appear in video options, but with 4GB the problem did not occur, although they are very specific cases
Was curious myself and reading about this lately, evidently the .5gb vram is not so much a Cap but just what is exclusively allocated to the iGPU. The differences between allocating 8GB or leaving it at .5GB were negligible across the board. tldr, it takes what is available within limits and isnt capped at .5GB btw It can be set to run 16GB VRAM GPU under Linux. The 5600G is a beast for Stable Diffusion Pytorch, Tensorflow etc. can run most of AI applications as well as many high end GPU's/CPUs... Still. wont help if looking to squeeze a few more FPS out of a DayZ session.
I just saw Forza Horizon 5 with 512mb vram detected 6 times stuttering and 4/8gb vram have no single stuttering in benchmark mode. (you can see results about stuttering) . But yeah, almost no different about performance but only stuttering can be gone if you set to 4gb vram or 8gb vram on game like forza horizon 5 which has bad optimization for Vega users with low vram.
You don't need that much of vram because your gpu can't utilize it because it doesn't have enough power to drive that much .... Its a gpu core bottleneck not a vram bottleneck
I thought vram was for higher texture settings, because that's what happens with dedicated GPUs, right? I'm a little confused right now... but, anyway, thanks for the video!
@@fitofficial6510 Thanks man, btw did your game Lag. Im thinking of buying this game but im having doubts cause i just played GTA 4 but im having 30fps
@@maccer8330 this is my channel. I am using single channel and very low budget a520 motherboard. See my gta 5 gameplay ua-cam.com/video/VBK2cJ-zVjQ/v-deo.html
Hey Christo I was just wondering, Would I be able to have 2x8gb (16 kit) ram for my system and chuck in a single third stick that has fast bandwidth/speed just solely for the apu? Asking if that's 1 possible to use 3 sticks without it affecting performance in a bad way or 2 a good idea at all.
@@Sensey1234 wow that weird, im using asrock a320m hdv, there is 3gb option, but it doesnt matter if eventhough we use 512mb or 4GB, total shared memory is 8GB. it's not shown on fps counter, check it with windows task manager (gpu tab), and some games like RE or Forza will show actual shared memory of igpu.
@@CahyoPrabowo i have b550m so probably each mobo has own setup. and yes i know about vram , i use only 2gb , the igpu automatically use more when need it. but some games you need allocate more vram manually from it's setting.
It doesn't actually work in practical terms. I once paired a decently powerful 10 year old graphic card (1 gb VRAM) i faced many issues with newer titles. Far more compared to even 1030gt (2 gb Vram)
Even more important is to get a dedicated GPU if you want to play on high graphics. All the Vram in the world won't help you a bit if the graphics core is not strong enough to use it. That's why back in the day they used to sell junk like a 4gb GTX 650 lol because people would see oh 4gb :ram that must mean it's a faster better card than the 680 because that only has 2gb Vram lol.
hey Christo! i've done exactly how the video shows, but even after disabling csm i don't get the option to fully enable resize bar support, only auto or disable. Motherboard is asus prime a320mk, processor is the same.
Hey bro we have the same my mobo and I have 3600mhz and I only clocked it to 3200 is it ok to put it into 3600, I know this is a stupid question I'm just new to this.
There isn't much of a framerate difference between allocating 512MB and 8GB to the iGPU in such a system for this reason: You are allocating the amount of system memory (DDR4, DRR5, etc.) and not actual hardware vram (GDDR5, etc.) to the iGPU that is supposed to act as vram. If there is a shortage of system memory allocated to the iGPU, the system will proceed to use more system memory beyond how much is allocated to the iGPU as vram. Now the reason for the performance difference is because when the system gives more memory to the GPU beyond how much is allocated, it has to share that memory the CPU which causes performance to suffer a little bit.
An igpu doesnt use GDDR5 ram in anycase. An igpu uses system memory from ram most systems automatically give them 512mb of your ram to reserve as a video memory, this method merely increases that reserved memory from ram. There is no dedicated vram in for an integrated gpu. Your entire hypothesis is based on false information and thus entirely wrong.
@@eraldorh You unintentionally restated my points that an iGPU uses system memory as video ram & can use more beyond the allocation limit. So what part of my "hypothesis" is wrong?
@@sajadaltamimi1705 No i didnt, you insinuated that the reason theres little difference is that the igpu uses GDDR5 and increasing the vram limit only gives it more memory from ram which is wrong its all from the ram. You also said unequivocally that the system will automatically give it more vram from ram beyond what has been set for it in the bios (usually 512mb) which is also completely wrong. The last part is so stupid i dont even know where to begin with that nonsense. Theres nothing correct about your comment.
@@eraldorh I said it uses system memory as vram, not GDDR5. Like DDR whatever memory. And if you paid attention to the video, you would see that the more ram allocated to the iGPU, the less non-allocated system memory is used according to the benchmarks. This is what I meant by the iGPU using more beyond what is allocated. Now, the less system memory allocated to the iGPU as vram means that it has to share more with the memory the CPU is using which could cause performance issues. I don't think you are reading my comment correctly.
@@ChristoGevedjov and if I add another 8 gb Ram with my already installed 8*2 gb Ram then it turns to single channel? I have 4 ram slots on my motherboard
@@Bittuhere. Adding another 8gb ram like 3x8gb ram? That's bad to do, will decrease a lot performance. So, you need to buy a another 2x8gb with same model and speed as yours to run quads channels and will run like a dual channel performance.
Please help, is this the iGPU Vega VII? I was about to buy my first desktop and there's one ad that says it has: Ryzen 5 5600G+A520M Mobo 6cores 12threads 3.9GHz Up to 4.4GHz Vega 7 igpu 8gb ram DDR4 3200mhz 120gb Solid State Drive for $450. It is an iGPU that I'm looking? Can someone point me to the right direction?
450$ is a bit expensive for this PC build (minimum is 400-410 euro with 16gb ram) and 8gb ram nowdays newest games is not enoough to run. Get a 2x8gb ram 3200mhz CL16, this will make ur PC much better.
Vram size doesn't really matter in fps but it's give you smoothness in your gaming experience i tyred i played gta v on 512mg vram and it's good give me 45 to 60fps but after i increased vram and then Play gta v no fps boost but gaming smoothness like 60+ fps it's work but not fps boost its increase Fps stealthy
If company is legit, then you can get a second hand RX 570 with warranty. If second hand RX 570 is without warranty DO NOT BUY, because can not working well or scam. And collect money for a better new GPU.
can you do tutorial how to increase vram in tuf gaming b450m pro ii? i set it but its 2gb max. i want to do 4gb but am a lil bit afraid lol! i have 32gb ram
I did exactly the same as the video but when I disable csm it doesn't start my operating system, nor any storage drive until I activate it again. Do you know how to fix it?
mano tenho a placa mae a520m e o ryzen tbm só que veio com 512mb e nao consgio alterar na bios altero e ele fica os mesmo 512 alguem consegue me ajudar
I have 16GB ram VRam is 2GB rn Should I increase it to 4GB VRam?? If it's only a lit bit of beneficial in 4GB Vram, then i will change it to 4Gb Should i go with the hassle to change it?? Is it worth it? PC CONFIG: 5600G MSI B450 Gaming plus max 16GB DDR4 3200 M.2
hey i have the same apu with 32gb ram of 3200mhz single stick and am getting half of your fps even i increased the vram to 8gb i have msi b450m a pro max mb what to do get high fps?
i have same stock build as decription and i always just turn dow the display resolution to keep stable 30 to 60 fps on games on my 50 inch 4k tv but lately i get a powershell error i think its because it uses almost all my 16 ram so im thinking of buying another 16 stick ram to keep up from powershell causing freeze ups
@@JayzBeerz if a person buys a 16GB kit for the 5600G system, then will you suggest him to buy 32GB of RAM instead? Because after giving 8GB to the VRAM, I think the other 8GB won't be enough for both gaming and multitasking.
Guys I have a Ruben 5600g and when I tried to play rainbow six siege the game crashed in the first 5 mins. I decreased the resolution from 1080 to 900p and all the settings to low and it still crashed. I updated the cpu drivers thinking this was the issue but I ran the game’s benchmark and I saw that it used 200% vram. Then I tried to play again with 1080p everything low 75fps capped and it didn’t crash. Should I upgrade to a gpu or is the issue driver or bios related? I need some help on this thank you…
I have A520m aours elite And wen i chose 4gb and exit the bios pc not work on window get bios again why?? And when i chose 2gb vram its work😢 i need 4 or 8 gb I have 5600g and 16 ram
@@Marwan_c7 Not just motherboard, maybe wrong bios settings. Try this: Open bios, click Advanced > AMD PBS > Graphics Features and set PEG to IGD (here's image: imgur.com/NInniSY ) and then Save and Restart. After this should be fixed. If not, i guess motherboard cannot hold or Windows is broken and needs re-install OS.
you mean overclock ? do that only when you buy 3090 ti :D the cpu needs a better cooling tho to get max of it , i'm using stock & it never reach the base clock 3.9 ...
We have the same specs but mine is not overclock and your fps in GTA V is higher by 10-20 and my max fps is 62fps even though my settings is a bit lower. Will i also get the same or almost the same fps if i also overclock mine?
i have ryzen 5 5600g / ( 8*2 )16gb 3200mh / m.2 / b450m a ii / and i play games ( open world and normal games ) , and i also edit and i do film making so i use after effects and i need ram for it, and my gpu vram usage is 518mb, should i increase it to 2 gb vram ?
man I can tell you what is my experience, hope it helps: until today I had 2x8gb = 16 CL17 3600mhz and 4 gb redirected to gpu. since today I have 4 of those , not 2. total 32 gb . i straight up redirected 8gb to my apu just to be sure and have another 24gb RAM - 19 usable since windows uses some. the changes are : my pc can now play 4k videos without stuttering. something that before was unwatchable. literally pictures. also, before - i used to play gta 5 rp and because I record, only during recording ,my fps would drop significantly. now since I made the change, I can record and play with the same fps. so no more frame dropping during recording. also, I think photoshop will work smoother since I also edit. video editing the same. so this is what to expect. From my personal experience with this config from last 2 years almost, I recommend this built whole heartedly but with 32gb RAM, not 16gb. The change is subtle as described above, if you are a pro user, like high demand - 32 gb.
System: 0:00
How to increase VRAM (BIOS): 0:23
Cyberpunk 2077: 1:26 (Results 512MB VRAM: 2:44 / 4GB VRAM: 2:52 / 8GB VRAM: 3:00 )
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2019: 3:07
CS GO: 4:43
F1 22: 5:19 (Results 512MB VRAM: 7:30 / 4GB VRAM: 7:39 / 8GB VRAM: 7:53 )
Forza Horizon 5: 8:02 (Results 512MB VRAM: 9:40 / 4GB VRAM: 9:50 / 8GB VRAM: 10:04 )
Marvels Guardians of the Galaxy: 10:18 (Results 512MB VRAM: 11:30 / 4GB VRAM: 11:42 / 8GB VRAM: 11:57 )
GTA V: 12:10
Rainbow Six Siege: 13:53 (Results 512MB VRAM: 15:13 / 4GB VRAM: 15:24 / 8GB VRAM: 15:37 )
Red Dead Redemption 2: 15:51
Resident Evil Village: 17:30
Shadow of the Tomb Raider: 18:44 (Results 512MB VRAM: 20:11 / 4GB VRAM: 20:22 / 8GB VRAM: 20:37 )
The Witcher 3: 20:50
increase vram Not showing in ryzen 5 2500u Vega 8
@@satyakiran2651 I don't know about laptops, but your bios have advanced settings?
Please make with 8 gb RAm at max performance
can you use it for video rendering test, is there any difference in terms of rendering speed?
is there any different in fps
Thank you for providing this information, now I know that I don't need more vram if my ram is already huge enough
You should try it, I've seen HUGE gains from this
Thanks for this video it saves me a lot of time testing. I'm using 4gb vram and my system ram is 16gb only. No significant boost in FPS when increasing vram on AMD APU's. Resizable bar is not compatible with Cezanne processors although turning it on the bios allows it to modify the memory configutration. The only thing that will increase the performance is overclocking the cpu and gpu and of course faster ram.
What is your pc spcs?
I think its work if change graphics setting, in ds2 sotfs i have 30 fps on very low graphics 512mb and 40-45 in 3gb
@@RomanzGame ds3 same thing it needed more than 2gb dedicated all the time so I had to make mine 3gb with resize and now I dont get any stutter in the game
wont more vram means you can push texture to higher settings w/o much performance lost?
@@shadyb834 it would still be rendering at the same frequency
so like I said it will only feel smoother if the game you are playing requires more vram than the value you have set , increasing decreasing quality settings wouldnt get better fps either unless (what Ive already mentioned )
Ryzen APUs are smart enough. If they lack VRAM, the entire RAM utilization will increase
So for example adding 8gb to the vram would just be pointless? And it can even decrease the performance of the pc since it takes part of the system memory (8gb) and allocates it to the vram?
@@Intellectualis yes kinda,more vram will solve stuttering for some games. but fps is for avg is kinda same.and yes it will take part of your system memory
Mine defaulted to 2gb on my 8gb kit, but it depends I think, especially if you have a dgpu in the system because then it will understandably only have 512mb
Setting it to auto will adjust the vram as per requirements like 16 GB ram will always use 8 GB of graphic memory
32 gb will take 16GB
@@sajidpathan3198 no. Automatic memory usage will take 1/4 of the RAM, but in extreme cases it can take up to half
Na verdade existe uma pegadinha aí por parte do driver da AMD, ele sempre pega memória RAM emprestada para o uso de Vram, percebam que, quando a Vram dedicada está em 512mb o uso de RAM é muito maior, ou seja, existe um empréstimo de RAM para Vram, o próprio windows já faz isso, mas nesse caso o empréstimo ficou mais acentuado. Por isso não conseguimos ver diferença relevante de performance, justamente porque o uso da RAM como Vram acontece de qualquer forma, você configurando no BIOS ou não.
tem alguma forma de diminuir isso?
Percebi isso tbm. E também que tem gargarlos com a VRAm pouca 512mb, aumentar a VRam manualmente pra 4Gb ou 8Gb só ajudará diminuir os gargalos. Porém desempenho em fps será o mesmo
Exatamente. O que talvez poderia melhorar um pouquinho seria a diminuição de engasgadas. Mas não sei se faz diferença. O Driver da AMD ignora totalmente a quantidade imposta pela BIOS.
Será que não deu mais fps por causa da pouca memória ram que tinha sobrado
Sim! Eu tenho um Ideapad 3 Ryzen 5 5500u e 8GB de RAM.
Hj configurei 512mb de RAM na BIOS e só vi vantagem, pois o sistema usa conforme demanda, mesmo configurado os 512mb, se ele precisar, a placa gráfica vai pegar RAM. Agora, se colocar 2GB na BIOS o usuário apenas deixará de usar esse 2GB no uso comum, ou seja, não há vantagem nenhuma. Deixei 512mb e tive até mesmo um ganho em games que demandam mais RAM, por exemplo, GTA V, o game ficou muito mais estável a 1080p, com alguns filtros em 2X, rodei acima de 45fps direto.
From what I understand more vram does not give more fps, but it gives more stability in the fps.
No, he's using an Apu which basically uses system ram as vram
In think the amout of vrams doesnt affect fps too much, its just important for running the game without crashing when you want to change medium or high settings.
Actually, when there's not enough VRAM, the system uses the RAM and since they're in the same clock speed (RAM - VRAM for iGPU) there's no stuttering or something related. Other will be the case if we have super fast VRAM GDDR6 and 6000mhz and slow RAM and 3200 mhz
Lool at the 0.1% Low. Thats the difference.
lol there will be a difference between high and low vram amount in GPU, but for APU whether you allocate 512mb or 8gb VRAM it will still use what it need from shared RAM
if you open many browser tabs out side good luck on tapping on those shared ram, your game will choke like hell
@@Lointern but it was less only in Esport title games and although it was same in every game
0.1% and 1% huge diff. no lag spikes
thanks for the video waiting for it
increasing vram to 4gb improved the lows's fps giving less stuttering. So for most games 4gb vram looks good if actual ram is 16 gb. Very rare for game to use over 12gb ram. So no performance loss on that front.
what if we set the preset auto ?
@@abstractxit Auto setting sets Vram to usually 512 mb which can hinders performance. I saw difference in No man's sky and Far Cry 5 by about 10 fps after dedicating VRAM to 4gb on 3200 DRR4 CL16 ram.
@@jeetuag but bro keeping it auto i can get default 4 gb vram in gta v
@@jeetuag if i put it auto i can use maximum 4 gb vram but it doesnt get dedicated i mean when im gaming its just using the ram as vram but when i dedicate that in bios my pcs normal ram gets deducted
@@jeetuag dhould i keep it auto or 2 gb my ram is 16gb
It seems like the lack of actual ram bottlenecks the 8gb setup, wonder what'd happen if you had 32gb ram +16vram
It's especially visible in CS:GO, a less RAM intensive game, with differences of about 3fps average, but 5 fps gains in some parts
leaving this here as well about my advice. man I can tell you what is my experience, hope it helps: until today I had 2x8gb = 16 CL17 3600mhz and 4 gb redirected to gpu. since today I have 4 of those , not 2. total 32 gb . i straight up redirected 8gb to my apu just to be sure and have another 24gb RAM - 19 usable since windows uses some. the changes are : my pc can now play 4k videos without stuttering. something that before was unwatchable. literally pictures. also, before - i used to play gta 5 rp and because I record, only during recording ,my fps would drop significantly. now since I made the change, I can record and play with the same fps. so no more frame dropping during recording. also, I think photoshop will work smoother since I also edit. video editing the same. so this is what to expect. From my personal experience with this config from last 2 years almost, I recommend this built whole heartedly but with 32gb RAM, not 16gb. The change is subtle as described above, if you are a pro user, like high demand - 32 gb. if you dont care 16 works. i got the same RAM I already had, just 50% off the initial price. a freakin bargain - I have 2x Kingston FURY Beast RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Dual Channel Kit =4 x 8gb
My numbers in Forza Horizon 5 with the included benchmark is 31 FPS on AUTO (preset medium and 1080p) versus 33 FPS and 4GB/8GB, you're really just wasting available RAM while you're not playing.... (And I did it with a fresh reinstall of Windows 11 for these tests...) I hope you'll share your own tests now that you already have 32 GB of RAM.
Thanks.
I don't know about you all but I used this hack to extend my VRAM to 4GB and now I'm seeing roughly 50% boost in gaming performance! This is on 5600G and Gigabyte A520m DS3H board and 16GB of 3533MHz RAM
Thanks. You do a great job!
Im confused, why there is almost no difference at all?
Bcs i also use r5 5600g no gpu, didnt know the default was 512mb, i looked around and figured things out, so i dont really understand this fully.
I played warhammer 2. 512mb was unplayable even with 1280x720, i cant even play with low shadow. Turned it up to 2gb, it improved significantly. Im looking for a guide how to increase to 4gb. Found this and kinda confused why there is only small difference between 512 mb vs 4 gb vs 8 gb.
I just think it's for make fps more stabilized.
Depends on how much the game uses tbh if the vRAM while playing your game is always 100% increasing will help the FPS significantly if not the situation you stated occurs.
VRAM DOESN'T REALLY MATTER FOR AN APU I GUESS...
Yeah, that's what YOU guess. I use a Ryzen 7 5700G (Vega 8) and the difference between VRAM capacities exists.
Its only uses the ram if the game is very demanding it will utilize more
@@NeonT3tra25 so will a game with min req of 4gb vram run on 2gb vram
@@darthchilde8880 well apu use ram as vram so it can somehow but ur mobo need to support it
@@NeonT3tra25 my pc specs r ryzen 5 3500u 16gb ram, do u think its possible?
I changed Vram on my 4600g via bios (msi A320m) by first changing os mode to UEFI second enabling XBAR and last will allow you to change integrated graphics memory to more than 2GB-16GB
then finally change Os to dual mode and reboot, while changing it made no big difference, but some Vram limited games were fully playable.
es lo mismo por qué cuando el pc detecta que se queda sin Vram empieza a usar la ram del sistema lo mismo ocurre con graficas dedicadas lo unico es restarle esa parte de ram dedicada para graficos por lo que sistema usara mas ram sin limitarse (se llama ram compartida con el sistema y lo pues encontrar en configuración de pantallas luego adptador de video)
Arriba sale cuanta memoria esta utilizando la gpu
VRAM never afects Fps, neither in GPUs. It afects the charging Time and the amout of texture load in Open World games.
It will not directly affect FPS but it will affect stutters and quality. There is a reason as to why higher end cards have higher VRAM.
i think 2Gb of vram is enough. VRAM is more like "reserved" memory so other apps can"t use it and only GPU and Windows can utilized it, but if the GPU need more than 2GB it will take other ram memory (Shared Memory). So better not to set the vram on more than 2GB because it a waste of ram space utilization in general
Not in all cases, sometimes due to compatibility problems it is good to set 4GB, for example, with 2GB of VRAM in Call of Duty BO3 the textures and high shadows did not appear in video options, but with 4GB the problem did not occur, although they are very specific cases
Forza 5 stuttering as hell with 2gb vram , 10 stutter per sec , when i set 4 vram , No more stutters
@@rahimds2000nice
Was curious myself and reading about this lately, evidently the .5gb vram is not so much a Cap but just what is exclusively allocated to the iGPU. The differences between allocating 8GB or leaving it at .5GB were negligible across the board.
tldr, it takes what is available within limits and isnt capped at .5GB
btw It can be set to run 16GB VRAM GPU under Linux. The 5600G is a beast for Stable Diffusion Pytorch, Tensorflow etc. can run most of AI applications as well as many high end GPU's/CPUs...
Still. wont help if looking to squeeze a few more FPS out of a DayZ session.
So,will increasing VRAM lead to a more stable fps without stutters or its the same ?
No, it doesn't matter for an apu because basically the vega 7 is taking the vram from your ram 🤷
I just saw Forza Horizon 5 with 512mb vram detected 6 times stuttering and 4/8gb vram have no single stuttering in benchmark mode. (you can see results about stuttering) .
But yeah, almost no different about performance but only stuttering can be gone if you set to 4gb vram or 8gb vram on game like forza horizon 5 which has bad optimization for Vega users with low vram.
Thanks for this video😁
You don't need that much of vram because your gpu can't utilize it because it doesn't have enough power to drive that much .... Its a gpu core bottleneck not a vram bottleneck
So for me with ryzen 5600g that have stuttering issue, i can just increase to 4 gb ram right?
If you want to play without single stuttering, you need increase to 4gb vram. (right)
Thanks for share about VRAM IGPU on and ryzen
I thought vram was for higher texture settings, because that's what happens with dedicated GPUs, right? I'm a little confused right now... but, anyway, thanks for the video!
It is for that and that's how ir works. At least on My 5700g I can see the difference i'm every game.
I may be wrong, but i think medium to high end vram is meant to reduce ram usage while gaming
Some manufacturers got the auto-memory scaling right, and some did not. Gigabyte definitely did not.
Any recommendation?
For me, when i was using vega 7 with 512mb vram in GTA 5, I can't go to high graphics but when i change this, i can change gta 5 high settings
Hey, just a question
What did you change so you can switch to high graphics?
@@maccer8330 I change in my motherboard bios. It is Msi A520m pro vh
@@fitofficial6510 Thanks man, btw did your game Lag. Im thinking of buying this game but im having doubts cause i just played GTA 4 but im having 30fps
@@maccer8330 this is my channel. I am using single channel and very low budget a520 motherboard. See my gta 5 gameplay
ua-cam.com/video/VBK2cJ-zVjQ/v-deo.html
buen video, gracias
Esse vídeo não deveria ser feito com 32gb de ram 2x16 em dual e 8gb de ram?
Do contrário sobe a vram e diminui a ram, fica msm coisa pra pior
no difference if was vram 32mb or 16gb in apu, u get same fps.
Yeah but less stutter
amazing effort ngl
5600g doesn't need that🤦
It is an apu and it shares ram automatically as Graphics ussage 🤦🤦🤦
Yeah it does nothing if you increase or decrease
I have it and i have made it 512 mb only
True, so you got more usable RAM for other software.
@@uluhitah12 Nop, the missing vRAM uses it in the RAM
@@josejurado5906 huh explain please.
@@josejurado5906 it probably does not if you don't set it to auto
Hey Christo I was just wondering, Would I be able to have 2x8gb (16 kit) ram for my system and chuck in a single third stick that has fast bandwidth/speed just solely for the apu? Asking if that's 1 possible to use 3 sticks without it affecting performance in a bad way or 2 a good idea at all.
Only 2 sticks (2x8gb kit) gives much better performance than three sticks(three sticks runs like a single channel and worse performance)
@@ChristoGevedjov Okay cool thanks christo
VRAM doesnt matter for APU bruh
Thank for videos testing.. Hehe
thanks for the share , that a lot of work.
4gb is the sweet spot for 2x8 ram. (2 for 8gb ram)
3gb for 16 gb, and 4gb for 32 gb
@@CahyoPrabowo there is no 3gb mate.
@@Sensey1234 wow that weird, im using asrock a320m hdv, there is 3gb option, but it doesnt matter if eventhough we use 512mb or 4GB, total shared memory is 8GB. it's not shown on fps counter, check it with windows task manager (gpu tab), and some games like RE or Forza will show actual shared memory of igpu.
@@CahyoPrabowo i have b550m so probably each mobo has own setup.
and yes i know about vram , i use only 2gb , the igpu automatically use more when need it. but some games you need allocate more vram manually from it's setting.
@@CahyoPrabowo 3GB, where did you find DDR4 1GB lmao
PLEASE DO THE SAME BUT WITH VRAM SPEED COMPARISON
Is there any difference between 2gb vram and 4?
Should be same.
Which recorder did u use?
thanks you so much i helped me
I tried this but PC now stuck in ASROCK logo and doesnt boot up to windows.
So, nothing changes performance wise? So.... What's the point?
what about sharing your vram with dedicated card? Will it be the same as well?
It doesn't actually work in practical terms. I once paired a decently powerful 10 year old graphic card (1 gb VRAM) i faced many issues with newer titles. Far more compared to even 1030gt (2 gb Vram)
boosting vram is important when playing on high graphics
Even more important is to get a dedicated GPU if you want to play on high graphics. All the Vram in the world won't help you a bit if the graphics core is not strong enough to use it. That's why back in the day they used to sell junk like a 4gb GTX 650 lol because people would see oh 4gb :ram that must mean it's a faster better card than the 680 because that only has 2gb Vram lol.
I can’t find Re Size bar support anywhere 😢
Please help
I have already enabled Above 4G decoding but there is no option for Resize bar support 😢
hey Christo! i've done exactly how the video shows, but even after disabling csm i don't get the option to fully enable resize bar support, only auto or disable. Motherboard is asus prime a320mk, processor is the same.
That's impossible, try this tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/GLPH0r03m-E/v-deo.html (if doesn't help, try enabling CSM and check vram size if allows to set)
I have 8 gb ram can i go with 4gb vram
No need, you can not play games with 4gb ram xD.
Just stick with 512mb vram default or 256mb vram for less stutter.
Best choice is 4GB Vram 😊
Hey bro we have the same my mobo and I have 3600mhz and I only clocked it to 3200 is it ok to put it into 3600, I know this is a stupid question I'm just new to this.
There isn't much of a framerate difference between allocating 512MB and 8GB to the iGPU in such a system for this reason:
You are allocating the amount of system memory (DDR4, DRR5, etc.) and not actual hardware vram (GDDR5, etc.) to the iGPU that is supposed to act as vram. If there is a shortage of system memory allocated to the iGPU, the system will proceed to use more system memory beyond how much is allocated to the iGPU as vram.
Now the reason for the performance difference is because when the system gives more memory to the GPU beyond how much is allocated, it has to share that memory the CPU which causes performance to suffer a little bit.
An igpu doesnt use GDDR5 ram in anycase. An igpu uses system memory from ram most systems automatically give them 512mb of your ram to reserve as a video memory, this method merely increases that reserved memory from ram. There is no dedicated vram in for an integrated gpu. Your entire hypothesis is based on false information and thus entirely wrong.
@@eraldorh You unintentionally restated my points that an iGPU uses system memory as video ram & can use more beyond the allocation limit. So what part of my "hypothesis" is wrong?
@@sajadaltamimi1705 No i didnt, you insinuated that the reason theres little difference is that the igpu uses GDDR5 and increasing the vram limit only gives it more memory from ram which is wrong its all from the ram.
You also said unequivocally that the system will automatically give it more vram from ram beyond what has been set for it in the bios (usually 512mb) which is also completely wrong.
The last part is so stupid i dont even know where to begin with that nonsense. Theres nothing correct about your comment.
@@eraldorh I said it uses system memory as vram, not GDDR5. Like DDR whatever memory. And if you paid attention to the video, you would see that the more ram allocated to the iGPU, the less non-allocated system memory is used according to the benchmarks. This is what I meant by the iGPU using more beyond what is allocated. Now, the less system memory allocated to the iGPU as vram means that it has to share more with the memory the CPU is using which could cause performance issues.
I don't think you are reading my comment correctly.
Does increasing vram decrease ram ? For example my ram is 16 gb and if I increase my vram to 4gb then my ram turns into 12 gb ?
" For example my ram is 16 gb and if I increase my vram to 4gb then my ram turns into 12 gb ?" That's correct, increasing vram will decrease ram.
@@ChristoGevedjov and if I add another 8 gb Ram with my already installed 8*2 gb Ram then it turns to single channel? I have 4 ram slots on my motherboard
@@Bittuhere. Adding another 8gb ram like 3x8gb ram? That's bad to do, will decrease a lot performance. So, you need to buy a another 2x8gb with same model and speed as yours to run quads channels and will run like a dual channel performance.
@@ChristoGevedjov will I get noticeable performance boost with ryzen 5 5600G? With quad channel
@@ChristoGevedjov and thanks man your a big help
Please help, is this the iGPU Vega VII? I was about to buy my first desktop and there's one ad that says it has:
Ryzen 5 5600G+A520M Mobo
6cores 12threads
3.9GHz Up to 4.4GHz
Vega 7 igpu
8gb ram DDR4 3200mhz
120gb Solid State Drive
for $450. It is an iGPU that I'm looking? Can someone point me to the right direction?
450$ is a bit expensive for this PC build (minimum is 400-410 euro with 16gb ram) and 8gb ram nowdays newest games is not enoough to run.
Get a 2x8gb ram 3200mhz CL16, this will make ur PC much better.
@@ChristoGevedjov thought it was cheap since they said it on a discount this month. Thanks for the heads up, will surely take that in mind.
if i set my vram to 8 gb, will it somehow damage my hardware ?(example: ram, cpu, apu)
Changing to higher vram is SAFE, no damage hardware/ will not give higher temp (same normal temp as 512mb vram) .
Vram size doesn't really matter in fps but it's give you smoothness in your gaming experience i tyred i played gta v on 512mg vram and it's good give me 45 to 60fps but after i increased vram and then Play gta v no fps boost but gaming smoothness like 60+ fps it's work but not fps boost its increase Fps stealthy
will it work on Ryzen 5600H with 3200Mhz dual channel 8x2 gb ram ??
Laptops can't increase vram.
@@ChristoGevedjov oh no
@@ChristoGevedjov I will have to go with 1650 now
@@ronakpatel4587 Go with GTX 1650 or RTX 3050. :)
@@ChristoGevedjov what about radeon rx5500m ??
so the safest one is the 4GB VRAM, it has higher average FPS on some games and more consistent too.
Well i got the ryzen 5 5600g , so should i buy a 2nd hand rx 570 or keep up with the vega 7?
If company is legit, then you can get a second hand RX 570 with warranty.
If second hand RX 570 is without warranty DO NOT BUY, because can not working well or scam. And collect money for a better new GPU.
@@ChristoGevedjov thank you so much
Hmm,my gta 4 map load empity just because of only 64mb of vram😅
can you do tutorial how to increase vram in tuf gaming b450m pro ii? i set it but its 2gb max. i want to do 4gb but am a lil bit afraid lol! i have 32gb ram
So I need to keep the VRAM at 8 GB, right?
i dont see much of a difference in quality between 512MB and 8 GB here
thanks a lot
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I did exactly the same as the video but when I disable csm it doesn't start my operating system, nor any storage drive until I activate it again. Do you know how to fix it?
U need ur disks GPT format. U have windows at MBR
Can u do digital combat simulater with these specs plz
The only reason I’m doing this is because of the 1% lows
eso hace 1 año ahora si o si la mayoria necesita como minimo 1 o 2de vram para entrar en algun juego
hi sir .. i cant see in the bios setting my board is asus A320
Hey christo
What is the important drivers for ryzen 5 5600g and asrock b450m pro 4 to get best performance cause im facing many droop frames and lags
Important drivers are chipset(chipset of motherboard) , audio and APU(gpu driver).
Make sure your ram is dual sticks.
@@ChristoGevedjov may i text u in private to show u my settings
In my motherboard it doesn't allow me to put more than 2GB, why? Do you recommend a micro ATX that exceeds 2GB?
I use asrock a320m hdv r4.0 and it works fine
I have an Athlon 200GE Vega 3, it uses 2gb VRAM of my 8GB ram
should i decrease it? I feel like 5.9Ram for win10 is to little
If you feel a bit unhappy about it, you can decrease it to 64mb vram or 512mb vram. Decreasing ram won't change fps on games.
mano tenho a placa mae a520m e o ryzen tbm só que veio com 512mb e nao consgio alterar na bios altero e ele fica os mesmo 512
alguem consegue me ajudar
pesquisa a bios da placa mãe, de como alterar isso nela. Tem algumas placas que só permitem até 2Gb no maximo
Hi, today I received a computer. Same situation, successful ?:)
I have 16GB ram
VRam is 2GB rn
Should I increase it to 4GB VRam??
If it's only a lit bit of beneficial in 4GB Vram, then i will change it to 4Gb
Should i go with the hassle to change it??
Is it worth it?
PC CONFIG:
5600G
MSI B450 Gaming plus max
16GB DDR4 3200
M.2
nope. Results show all the same
Yes it would stop stuttering in game
For more stable gameplay.
But only to 4gb and not 8gb .
Set 4 gb to avoid the heavy stuttering in forza 5
@@anonymousguy999 me have 8gb on warzone 2 and make game play smooth
These games would not be able to run on 512 mb
I think it totally ignores the vram and uses the default
What about 5700G w/ 16GB Vram?
Как ты Vega 7 дал 4 Гб видеопамяти, если для неё максимум 2гб?
Asrock
Bro there is no difference the IGpu will use the ram if it's allocated vram is full
512MB - shared too low frametime not smooth
4GB - balanced
8GB - too low memory
hey i have the same apu with 32gb ram of 3200mhz single stick and am getting half of your fps even i increased the vram to 8gb i have msi b450m a pro max mb what to do get high fps?
thats happened because you are not using dual channel, if u use 2 sticks of ram instead of the single 32gb, i will notice a huge improvement
Os ganhos de momorisnram compensaram na queda por falta de vram, terianque ser um pc de no mínimo 32gb
Debiste hacer la comparacion con 64gb de ram o al menos 32gb, no tiene sentido hacerla con 16gb, nunca notarás una diferencia real
i have same stock build as decription and i always just turn dow the display resolution to keep stable 30 to 60 fps on games on my 50 inch 4k tv but lately i get a powershell error i think its because it uses almost all my 16 ram so im thinking of buying another 16 stick ram to keep up from powershell causing freeze ups
Use dual Channel ram brother
@@ajayotaradi imy motherboard only supports 2 ram slots , i now have 32gb ram at 3200mhz and is running better than ever... best buy i made this year
@@mcwubwub9263 yep
4GB VRAM is ideal for this APU in my opinion. Also the frame time, the 1% lows and the 0.1% lows are good at 4GB.
nope 8GB is best for gaming.
@@JayzBeerz if a person buys a 16GB kit for the 5600G system, then will you suggest him to buy 32GB of RAM instead? Because after giving 8GB to the VRAM, I think the other 8GB won't be enough for both gaming and multitasking.
so its not worth it to change anything
Guys I have a Ruben 5600g and when I tried to play rainbow six siege the game crashed in the first 5 mins. I decreased the resolution from 1080 to 900p and all the settings to low and it still crashed. I updated the cpu drivers thinking this was the issue but I ran the game’s benchmark and I saw that it used 200% vram. Then I tried to play again with 1080p everything low 75fps capped and it didn’t crash. Should I upgrade to a gpu or is the issue driver or bios related? I need some help on this thank you…
You can try increasing the vram a little bit more bat ryzen 5 5600g is not the fastest gpu, so you shouldn't be expecting a lot from it.
my question is.. if I assign VRAM 8gb to VEGA7, will it affect heat temparature in RYZEN 5 CPU?
No, temperature will be same normal like 512mb vram.
@@ChristoGevedjov thank you so much.
I have A520m aours elite
And wen i chose 4gb and exit the bios pc not work on window get bios again why??
And when i chose 2gb vram its work😢 i need 4 or 8 gb
I have 5600g and 16 ram
Did you update your bios to latest version which can fix this bug?
At 0:31 , did you disable CMS and enable Above 4G Decoding and Re-Size Bar Support?
@@ChristoGevedjov yes 😢Is the motherboard not enough?
@@Marwan_c7 Not just motherboard, maybe wrong bios settings.
Try this: Open bios, click Advanced > AMD PBS > Graphics Features and set PEG to IGD (here's image: imgur.com/NInniSY ) and then Save and Restart. After this should be fixed. If not, i guess motherboard cannot hold or Windows is broken and needs re-install OS.
@@ChristoGevedjov no windows is work but when im chose 2gb only
When i chose 4gb not work get bios only
Do I have to boost the CPU along with the vram? (to avoid stuttering what so ever)
you mean overclock ? do that only when you buy 3090 ti :D
the cpu needs a better cooling tho to get max of it , i'm using stock & it never reach the base clock 3.9 ...
You can oc to 2200 or 2300 whitout issues on stock coller i suggest you to go 2200 so you dont need to change to volltage or anything
Bro please answer.
My mobo b450m steel legend. Proc same ram same 16GB. Can i setting like you? 0:23
Should be fine to do same like my.
@@ChristoGevedjov bro can a asrock x370m do the same pls answer...
I got 32gb 3600mhz ram. Is it better if im set to 8gb vram? Less suttering?
Oh, of course will be much better if set to 8gb vram. Less stuttering and less problems.
We have the same specs but mine is not overclock and your fps in GTA V is higher by 10-20 and my max fps is 62fps even though my settings is a bit lower. Will i also get the same or almost the same fps if i also overclock mine?
My RAM is 16gb dual channel and i already put it on 3200mhz
Means not same specs, your ram speed sounds slower than my 3200mhz or your CL ram is too high.
@@ChristoGevedjovi see thank you it seems the RAM i have is slower compared to yours, i should have bought a better one
i have ryzen 5 5600g / ( 8*2 )16gb 3200mh / m.2 / b450m a ii / and i play games ( open world and normal games ) , and i also edit and i do film making so i use after effects and i need ram for it, and my gpu vram usage is 518mb, should i increase it to 2 gb vram ?
man I can tell you what is my experience, hope it helps: until today I had 2x8gb = 16 CL17 3600mhz and 4 gb redirected to gpu. since today I have 4 of those , not 2. total 32 gb . i straight up redirected 8gb to my apu just to be sure and have another 24gb RAM - 19 usable since windows uses some. the changes are : my pc can now play 4k videos without stuttering. something that before was unwatchable. literally pictures. also, before - i used to play gta 5 rp and because I record, only during recording ,my fps would drop significantly. now since I made the change, I can record and play with the same fps. so no more frame dropping during recording. also, I think photoshop will work smoother since I also edit. video editing the same. so this is what to expect. From my personal experience with this config from last 2 years almost, I recommend this built whole heartedly but with 32gb RAM, not 16gb. The change is subtle as described above, if you are a pro user, like high demand - 32 gb.
thnx a lot boddy , i'll take your oppinion in my mind many thanks@@RaduP3
I set the video card of the 5600G processor to 8GB, I don't see any improvements compared to 4GB
how about 512 to 4gb?
have you enabled XMP in the ram?
Yes, xmp is enabled.
How i get to the system you didnt show us
Is oveclocking from 512 mb to 8gb vram for Ryzen 5 4600G safely ??
That's not overclocking, just increasing vram numbers. So, it's safe to do this.
can anyone tell me the armor geralt wearing in this video ?
So in conclusion, dedicating VRAM UMA boost does nothing. so might as well just leave it on Auto UMA Buffer
No, it removes stuttering and makes gameplay and textures more smooth, it doesn't increase fps.