Exploring The Thing from Another World - Essential Sci-Fi

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  • Опубліковано 30 жов 2022
  • Good Bad Flicks looks into the history of the classic sci-fi movie The Thing from Another World. Directed by Christian Nyby.
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  • @royjudson4380
    @royjudson4380 Рік тому +6

    Remember watching The Thing as a 10 year old back in 1970. i was terrified, i turned it off half way through, then heard my dads car pull up, so switched it back on before he got in so i could look brave.

  • @seymourup4monday
    @seymourup4monday Рік тому +29

    The jump scare when he's behind the door is top tier for any era

  • @clintmcbride7830
    @clintmcbride7830 Рік тому +33

    I love that the novella, 50s adaptation, and 80s re-adaptation are all considered to be influential in their own ways.

    • @watamatafoyu
      @watamatafoyu Рік тому +1

      I'm really hoping the 2011 prequel is not considered that...

    • @KhailSOLO
      @KhailSOLO 9 місяців тому

      @@watamatafoyu as much as i'm fond of that movie, what else is there to it? when it's a retread made worse by studio meddling?

  • @lupiniiifan6095
    @lupiniiifan6095 6 місяців тому +5

    Fun Fact: Paul Frees, know for voicing thousands of cartoon characters, plays a small role as Dr Voorhees

  • @pontiusporcius8430
    @pontiusporcius8430 Рік тому +48

    1954 was a landmark year for sci fi horror. Thing, black lagoon, gojira, them. A year of classics.

    • @randyacuna5643
      @randyacuna5643 Рік тому +1

      Pontius, the Thing was made and released in 1951 , not 1954.

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 Рік тому +143

    One of my all time favorite movies. I love the overlapping dialog. It feels so natural.

    • @jeremysmetana8583
      @jeremysmetana8583 Рік тому +18

      My understanding is that was one of the aspects of the film that helped to scare audiences so much. The natural flow of the dialog was something somewhat new at the time.

    • @gepmrk
      @gepmrk Рік тому +2

      Precisely.

    • @rmhartman
      @rmhartman Рік тому +9

      This was one of Hawks' hallmarks, iirc.

    • @DragonKingX78
      @DragonKingX78 Рік тому +3

      Love this movie, really wish the blu ray release wasn't so bar bones.

    • @johngriffiths118
      @johngriffiths118 Рік тому +1

      Saw it on TV yesterday . This was the most noticeable aspect of the film

  • @bigdmac33
    @bigdmac33 9 місяців тому +6

    After watching TTFAW for the 4th time this evening, I realised that there is not one boring frame in the movie. It's filled with a strong cast in what is, for my money, one of the best ensemble acts ever.

    • @18661873
      @18661873 4 місяці тому

      Agreed. At the point where Scotty remarks, "What if our boyfriend gets lonely and starts strolling around? What do we do then?" is when they realize that they are barely one step ahead of this monster. The pace of the film shifts into high gear from that point and culminates in the last round, do-or-die ending.
      You are correct, there is not one boring frame in this movie.

  • @docmach8794
    @docmach8794 Рік тому +35

    The Thing had some of the best acting in any movie.
    Lines were given as if they were from the person not a script, timing was perfect and the banter between actors was smooth as satin.

    • @gerrydooley951
      @gerrydooley951 Місяць тому +1

      it had overlapping dialogue which was a Howard Hawks thing

  • @sulaco2122
    @sulaco2122 Рік тому +5

    What still impresses me is the dialog of the 1950's Thing. The actors talk at, around and over each other in what sounds like impromptu real conversation not scripted dialog.

    • @kensellers4082
      @kensellers4082 Рік тому

      Howard Hawks used that technique in many of his films.

  • @mjt07f
    @mjt07f Рік тому +7

    Amazing that people could think "the thing" was a bad movie...one of the best movies of all time!

  • @matthewwolfstein2359
    @matthewwolfstein2359 Рік тому +168

    As someone who is currently studying Old Hollywood history for a film encyclopedia I’ve been working on for two years, this was probably one of the best videos for me to see pop up in my notifications. Thanks for such a wonderful treat GBF, and keep up the stellar work! 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @jamegumm474
      @jamegumm474 Рік тому +7

      Hit me up when encyclopedia is done,that'd be sweet🤙

    • @brandonpage7087
      @brandonpage7087 Рік тому +3

      I look forward to reading your film encyclopedia when it's done.

    • @thomaspayton436
      @thomaspayton436 Рік тому +2

      you might want to start with westerns a lot of good charcter actors got their starts there

    • @shizzmcgizz8686
      @shizzmcgizz8686 Рік тому +3

      If you’re just learning about “The thing from another world,” you’re way behind

    • @frankpienkosky5688
      @frankpienkosky5688 Рік тому

      @@shizzmcgizz8686 ..."OH,..that one"....great line....

  • @theoneandonlysoslappy
    @theoneandonlysoslappy Рік тому +47

    One of my favorite scenes in all of film history is when the soldiers go out onto the ice to trace the shadow of the crashed craft and realize it is circular.

    • @Luxinda
      @Luxinda Рік тому +4

      Yes!!! Get goosebumps every time.

    • @alantasman8273
      @alantasman8273 Рік тому

      Actually that could be seen from the air as they flew over the landing/crash site.

    • @sheilaburns8977
      @sheilaburns8977 Рік тому +3

      Love the movie, and always love the eerie music that plays during this scene.

    • @lesnyk255
      @lesnyk255 Рік тому +4

      I first saw the original on Sat matinee tv back when I was 9 or 10 (ca 1960) - and that scene where they fanned out along the spacecraft's perimeter and came into a perfect circle has stayed with me all these decades. Even then the rapid-fire dialog seemed to impart a reality that a lot of B-movies of the era lacked. I tend to agree with Roger Ebert's assessment that the characters in Carpenter's remake were straw men waiting to be eaten (Kurt Russell in particular annoyed me), but it hews more closely to the written story, and it's a master class in practical special effects. I also like how Carpenter copied the original's "burn through" of the movie's title, in homage to Hawke's version of the film. I have both versions in my home video library.

    • @KinksKomments
      @KinksKomments Рік тому +1

      @@lesnyk255 the situation in 1982 "Thing" develops so fast that wasting time trying to make the characters "likeable/relatable" actually detracts from the suspense and mystery that is building quickly. I agree with S F/X mastery class and more akin to original story. As for Ebert's assessment, he was so negatively critical of most movies, that when he thumbs downed them I would go see them as they turned out to be reall entertaining movies.

  • @GliderBane
    @GliderBane Рік тому +96

    I saw John Carpenter's Thing first and was a huge fan. I saw the origional on PBS and wasn't expecting much, as I heard it was made in 1950. I was really impressed. While I greatly prefer Carpenter's version, the 50's thing is without a doubt the best horror movie of its era.

    • @pontiusporcius8430
      @pontiusporcius8430 Рік тому +12

      Creature from the black lagoon would like a word.

    • @ELEKTROSKANSEN
      @ELEKTROSKANSEN Рік тому +3

      My favorite 50's horror movie will always be "Fiend without a face" tbh

    • @erikramaekers63
      @erikramaekers63 Рік тому +8

      I saw The Thing from Another World first (1970 on tv) The two movies are very different but in my opinion the 50s version is much more entertaining( probably why i saw it at least 50 times)PS Howard Hawks directed the movie,he stood behind Nyby for the entire shoot and told him what to do

    • @TequilaToothpick
      @TequilaToothpick Рік тому +1

      What about Les Diabloque or Night of the Hunter?

    • @pontiusporcius8430
      @pontiusporcius8430 Рік тому +3

      @@TequilaToothpick In terms of sci fi horror. Though night of the hunter outclasses both.

  • @adad-nerari4117
    @adad-nerari4117 Рік тому +15

    Thanks for this video. For me, "The thing" of 1951 is, from far, the best sci-fi movie I have seen. This film succeeded to create a great suspense with a sobriety of the means : no weird monster, no tentacles, no roars etc ... but a tall, silent and frightening humanoid that appears rarely, but whose threat hangs over.

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 Рік тому +1

      Anything else but a humanoid monster would've looked like shit with 50s special effects just look at how bad some of the monsters in Doctor Who looked and that was made a full 12 years later in 1963.

  • @mgass1354
    @mgass1354 Рік тому +6

    Damn I'm old. I watched the '51 Thing from another world before the Carpenter movie.

  • @mcwalton6721
    @mcwalton6721 Рік тому +5

    This a very tight film. It's a master class in editing, tension-building, character development and NO fluff or padding. Simply one of the best sci-fi films ever.

    • @austintrousdale2397
      @austintrousdale2397 Рік тому

      Yes… and the Arnold UFO sighting plus the Roswell incident cast a discernible shadow over the movie’s screenplay and vibe if you listen between the lines of dialogue. At least IMO

  • @cwdkidman2266
    @cwdkidman2266 Рік тому +5

    As a longtime Hawksite I find The Thing endlessly fascinating because it puts his philosophy and themes on a more stark relief than his other movies. Also, it's a classic.
    1. It's a Hawks film. Nothing Nyby did afterward comes close to this movie. Either Hawks directed it or he told Nyby what to do on a micro level.
    2. It's optimistic. Two scientists we never meet are murdered off screen. And some dogs. For an alien invasion movie, that's pretty low. But it doesn't ignore the horrible way they died.
    3. Ned Scott gives Carrington a very kind word in his report. And Lt. Dykes says "Good for you. Scotty."
    4. Leaders lead. Good leaders tolerate ribbing from his men, acknowledge that they don't have any solutions but pick the best solution offered, and good leaders expect to be obeyed once they give an order.
    5. Professionals behave like professionals. It's that simple. Do your job. If you're a scientist, if you can help, great. But you don't fight. It's not your job. It's the job of military men who've taken an oath to protect the country.
    6..Ned Scott pushes himself into the fight. That's HIS job. He needs to be on hand in order to report. And Captain Hendry let's him do his job.
    7. Future Groucho sidekick and Electrician George Fennerman comes up with the final and best way to fight the thing, but no one expects him to be out front with an axe. And he isn't. So Pat doesn't have to worry about his safety.
    8. Nikki is one of the best Hawksian women. She's smart, sexy, wears slacks, is sexual, can drink like a man, and comes up with two Big Ideas. One, heat fights plants. Two, she spots the lowering temperatures when the thing cuts off the oil. SHE is brought into the group of guys for the first big fight.
    9. Sex and Double Entendres. Hawks' major desire for his characters is for them to have unfettered sex lives. He attacked Army red tape in I Was A Male War Bride that kept Cary Grant and Ann Sheridan apart. He attacked it without mercy, less than 4 years after the war. It was the first service comedy. It didn't care, like A Foreign Affair that same year, who won or lost. Hawks only cared about who was keeping our couple from fucking. The U.S. Army. And he eviscerated it
    Double Entendres. Hawks pushed as far as he could with censorship and usually got his way. He could have Cary Grant read a line and make it sound like pure filth, even if it were perfectly innocent on paper. An extra like Dabbs Greer in Monkey Business could give a look that said volumes. Monkey Business was his smuttiest film, yet no one could object to it.
    It seemed innocent when he explained it.
    And Hawks' double entendres usually refer to anal sex. 'Looking for polar bear tail" "Barnes flushed a polar bear" "we got up in there" etc. Carrington praises the thing's asexuality for not hindering its pursuit of technology. But fans of Hawks know that this is the thing's death sentence. It's going to be destroyed down to its shadow and echo.Hendry burns the thing, its hand, the seeds, and the little things in the garden. He'd burn the memory of it if he could.
    10. Common sense. Hawks was pro-common sense, not pro-military. He wasn't pro journalist in His Girl Friday or pro scientist in Ball of Fire or Monkey Business. He was for people doing their jobs. In The Thing, the Air Force guys ignore orders in the face of facts on the ground. They mock the atom bomb even though they know it probably saved millions of lives in the Pacific in WW2. They bungle the thermite but they know they'd do it again if they didn't know the outcome. And Barnes isn't even yelled at for the electric blanket incident. What would be the point? It's clear Barnes learned his lesson.
    11. More common sense. Some people have criticized this movie for destroying EVERYTHING about the thing. They think we'd learn more if we'd kept a few seeds..But what would we learn? We know what it is and how to kill it. If we kidnapped a Russian infant in 1951 and raised it in America, what could we find out about the Politburo or Soviet military technology? Nothing.
    The US government could weaponize the thing. And maybe that's what Hendry had in mind in destroying EVERYTHING. After all, they'd mocked atomic power as being too dangerous. They'd probably fight tooth and.nail.to keep us from weaponizing plant people.
    11. The group dynamic. The individuals who make up a Hawks group are two things: professional and LIKEABLE. THAT'S the biggest difference between Hawks and Carpenter's remake. I wouldn't want to share an elevator with Carpenter's group it it were going from the second floor to the first. Hawks' group is a great hang out with your buds group.
    And so are most of the scientists, half of whom are against Carrington from the start of the ice block and behind Dr. Chapman.
    Only a.superficial.view of Hawks would make anyone think he's pro-military. Just watch I Was A Male War Bride.
    Hawks was a modern guy who never depicted middle class marriage except once, in Monkey Business. And that movie wrecked the marriage so it could be brought together again. And Hendry resists the idea of marriage but you know he'll take the plunge.
    No one attacked or ridiculed the American middle class more than Hawks did. And he was pretty subversive about it, cloaking his attacks in comedy. Or in fast-talking characters.
    I agreed with most contemporary critics of the 1982 remake but I've warmed to it over the years. It moves along briskly and I like Kurt Russell and Wilford Brimley. But I still wouldn't spend ten minutes with the rest of them.

    • @runlarryrun77
      @runlarryrun77 Рік тому +1

      Agreed re Nyby. You just have to look at the rest of his work to see that regardless of who got the credit - either Hawks directed this with Nyby as a 1st assistant, or as you say, co-directed through Nyby to the point of telling him exactly what to do. There's a level of precision here you just don't see in the rest of Nyby's filmography. Some of his television work in particular was a little ragged, even when you consider the budgetary & time constraints of tv.

    • @kensellers4082
      @kensellers4082 Рік тому +1

      @@runlarryrun77
      Some of the cast of the original 1951 film said that Howard Hawks did really direct this sci-fi classic.

    • @cwdkidman2266
      @cwdkidman2266 Рік тому +2

      @@runlarryrun77 There's one scene in The Thing that demonstrates Hawks's invisible mastery of cinema. They go to the radio room where Tex is, They look around, explaining the Thing is out and free. As the group leaves, Pat says to use his fireax because a gun's no good. Tex says "wait a minute! What do you mean a gun's no,good?" Half of this line is spoken in the radio room and the other half is heard from the hallway as the group moves on. And it's spoken seamlessly. It's a small touch and easily could he been spoken without double coverage but it adds a little comic touch to Tex's confusion and so Hawks did it that way. And only a film editor, cinematographer, and sound tech would pick up,on the degree of difficulty in doing one scene so effortlessly to the average viewer. As Hawks always said "don't annoy the audience with tricks that don't work."
      This one little touch to a scene that didn't need it but was the better for it is why the French called Hawks Hollywood's first and best auteur. And deservedly so. Hawks never blew his own horn, never took credit for all the rewrites he and Faulkner did to already good scripts, and ran from analyzing his own films. He was also credited to have quoted Faulkner as saying "the worst critic of any artist's work is the artist himself. He never knows what he's saying until years after he's said it. And then he's usually wrong"

  • @gfdggdfgdgf
    @gfdggdfgdgf Рік тому +4

    John carpenter did a commentary track for this version of the thing (and one for his version of the thing together with Kurt Russell, which is a great commentary track)

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Рік тому +16

    I'm glad your spotlighting the THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD. People forget that this and focus on the John Carpenter remake. The monster was cool, especially when he was on fire.

    • @KRhetor
      @KRhetor Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately, too many of the other commentators are still focusing on Carpenter's remake instead of the actual movie being discussed in the video. Hell, it's annoying how the Carpenter cultists try to make his version of The Thing the subject of EVERY film discussion on the Internet.

  • @AmityvilleFan
    @AmityvilleFan Рік тому +33

    I love this. Last time I've watched this noticed, a lot of the times people are half out of the frame. It creates a kinda found-footage feeling, like the audience is there as a character.

  • @ChaosTicket
    @ChaosTicket Рік тому +17

    John Carpenter's The Thing is a masterpiece. Not all of his films are quite to that level(more like 80% of them), but its a great film. The combination of subtle acting, paranoid atmosphere, amazing special effects, just wow. Along with 1980s remakes The Fly, and The Blob its one of the all times greats.
    Maybe Exploring "the Fly" some day?

    • @mgass1354
      @mgass1354 Рік тому +2

      Carpenter's The Thing is NOW considered a good movie. At the time, it was raked over the coals and called the "Barf bag of the summer".

    • @ChaosTicket
      @ChaosTicket Рік тому

      @@mgass1354 Im a fan of general filmography. Ive seen many horror films but I own few.
      I had to binge watch Friday the 13th, Halloween, and Nightmare of Elm Street series about a decade ago to really see them 100%. So Im not actually a horror-fan, but a film-fan.
      Yeah I would agree that The Blob, The Fly, and The Thing are barf-bag films.
      Its a shame that the Film-Critics are really biased. Siskel and Ebert hated horror films from everything Im told and have seen. They should have rated films based around a fair and neutral mindset.

    • @mgass1354
      @mgass1354 Рік тому

      @@ChaosTicket
      I own over 2,000 movies, either dvd or VOD. I tell my caregiver I have nothing to watch because I can run every movie in my head.
      Yes, Siskel and Ebert really didn't like horror. And the more gore the worse they rated it. That's why The Thing was a flop at the box office, but, today considered a good film. And, yes, I'm old enough to remember that review by Siskel and Ebert.
      The Blob, both original and remake, are great. The Fly original I like even though the remake is considered by many to be superior.

    • @Cakegolem
      @Cakegolem Рік тому

      @@mgass1354 It didn't help being released slightly behind E.T. the Extraterrestrial, which had audiences enamored with the concept of benign alien visitors.

    • @jeffsmith2022
      @jeffsmith2022 Рік тому +1

      I can't agree that the redo of the film should be called a 'masterpiece'...it is not...

  • @troynov1965
    @troynov1965 6 місяців тому +4

    The fire sequence in this film is still breathtaking to watch till this day. Its a wonder no one was killed or burned badly.

  • @mikekutz5776
    @mikekutz5776 Рік тому +6

    My all-time favorite sci-fi picture. Great cast, Great writing, Great direction.

  • @sheilaholmes996
    @sheilaholmes996 9 місяців тому +5

    I have loved this movie ever since I was a kid.

  • @watamatafoyu
    @watamatafoyu Рік тому +4

    One of the most terrifying films ever made for audiences at its release was... about a monster carrot.

  • @gerrydooley951
    @gerrydooley951 Місяць тому +3

    I saw this movie for the first time around 1962: Million Dollar Movie in NY showed it every night for a week. My God we kids in the neighborhood loved it, just fantastic

  • @michaelproctor8100
    @michaelproctor8100 Рік тому +3

    In the later years of his life, James Arness had a website where he sold autographed photos from Gunsmoke and How The West Was Won, and even posters from The Thing, so I guess he got over his resentment of the film. He donated a portion of the proceeds to his favorite charity which was cystic fibrosis.

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Рік тому +18

    The fire stunt has got to be one of the hardest core stunts on film. I really enjoy both "The Thing From Another World" and "The Thing".
    1951, "An intellectual carrot; the mind boggles"
    2016, "An anti-intellectual pumpkin; the mind boggles"

    • @PeachBoi_Real
      @PeachBoi_Real Рік тому

      Not even modern day stunts can compare to that scene!

    • @ruffusgoodman4137
      @ruffusgoodman4137 Рік тому +1

      Most interentingly, the Thing remake was very criticized and overlooked during his release, now a cult classic.
      The THING is... (sorry for the pun) it managed to remake it's original, use better tech at that time, be more faithful to the source material and on top of all that, subverted expectations RESPECTFULLY. The ending was open for interpretation, much of the movie digs on paranoia, the characters might not be the most interesting, but for an horror movie, it did a great job coining key scenes and leaving it's mark on cinema.
      The original did most of these accomplishments at that time, too, plus the praise. Go figure...

  • @Chrisfeb68
    @Chrisfeb68 10 місяців тому +6

    This is the perfect movie to watch on a cold October night.

  • @justletmelistthese
    @justletmelistthese Рік тому +3

    even after his death Ebert never ceases to amaze me with his complete lack of taste

  • @LegalizeAdulthood
    @LegalizeAdulthood Рік тому +6

    Carpenter's The Thing is also one of my all-time favorite films but I too love The Thing (From Another World).

  • @johnsanko4136
    @johnsanko4136 Рік тому +30

    It's still incredible that the John Carpenter version died so hard in theaters. In hindsight, it's a masterpiece, but it did terribly at the box office. The original was a great movie as well, but the remake is one of my all time favorite movies.

    • @trustno173
      @trustno173 Рік тому +5

      It's always baffled me just how badly JC's The Thing did when it came out, it was a critically panned flop that almost killed Carpenter's career and he only survived because of Christine. Fast forward a little less than 20 years and it's regarded as a masterpiece. It makes you wonder what hated movies we sneer and groan at now are going to get that treatment in the future.

    • @wkanost
      @wkanost Рік тому +3

      I did my part and saw it in the theater opening weekend! I had to go to work that night as a night watchman. Alone most of the time walking around a dark factory with all these industrial shadows and noises.

    • @MrMoorkey
      @MrMoorkey Рік тому +2

      People wanted cute aliens, on the back of being horrified by Alien, and having seen cutesy aliens in Close Encounters and E.T... and Carpenter gave them the most realistically alien creature ever put to screen.

    • @starmnsixty1209
      @starmnsixty1209 Рік тому +2

      Carpenter changed the ending of both the original story and the Howard Hawks film.
      I don't think the effects of 1950 could have handled a complicated alien.
      Also Kenneth Arnold was also looking for a downed military plane when he had his sighting.

    • @SmartCookie2022
      @SmartCookie2022 Рік тому +3

      @@MrMoorkey That's the excuse that's been given, but it was really the movie critics that killed its success. They're simply trying to shift the blame onto the public who believed their lousy reviews.

  • @elroma7712
    @elroma7712 Рік тому +3

    this is one of my granpa's favorite films, he used to watch it a lot in the double features in the local cinema back in the mid 60's

  • @The-Man-On-The-Mountain
    @The-Man-On-The-Mountain Рік тому +3

    I used to watch this movie on repeat when I was around 8-10 years old (mid 80's). I loved it.

  • @Lethgar_Smith
    @Lethgar_Smith Рік тому +1

    When John Carpenter's The Thing came out my dad told me about seeing this version in the base theater when he was in the Navy. He said it was packed with sailors but you could have heard a pin drop. It was that scary a movie.

  • @nemesisn4sir242
    @nemesisn4sir242 Рік тому +4

    Watch this once or twice every year; always one of favorites.

  • @TheStrykerProject
    @TheStrykerProject Рік тому +3

    Ha ha ha! As soon as I heard "Cut Bank, MT" I started laughing. In some locations, there's a BIG difference between average snow "fall" and "accumulation". Cut Bank is up in the North Central part of Montana (but East of the Rockies) where the wind blows almost constantly, and it gets so cold that the snow is very light and powdery.

  • @KennethDPedersen
    @KennethDPedersen Рік тому +1

    One correction,Glacier National Park is in Montana.
    I love this movie, I love how matter of fact most of the characters are, their chemistry and how Nikki is never relegated to a screaming damsel in distress

  • @mizedom8167
    @mizedom8167 Рік тому +23

    Wow! Yes. I'm so happy you chose one of my favorites. A classic that set the mark for all future sci-fi monster movies. Great choice! Thanks.

    • @tedbusiek8888
      @tedbusiek8888 Рік тому

      If he keeps exploring films of this caliber he'll have to rename the channel Good Good Flicks.

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 Рік тому

      @@tedbusiek8888 Pretty sure the purpose of that name in the first place was because many of the movies he was exploring were good movies made bad by the studio making shit decisions for instance his video on Blair Witch 2 which is a much better movie when edited the way the director meant for it to be and honestly a better movie than the first one since the first doesn't really work without the original hype.

  • @mazer375
    @mazer375 Рік тому +2

    I still remember watching this for the first time with my grandfather. Great stuff.

  • @samowhat
    @samowhat Рік тому +1

    I love both movies. I'm absolutely happy that JC's movie is now getting the recognition it truly deserved. I hope they bury the prequel

  • @juliagoodwin9510
    @juliagoodwin9510 Рік тому +24

    The salt towards John Carpenter's The Thing astounds me. I'm not a horror fan and even I can't help but be impressed by what I've seen...

    • @svenjansen2134
      @svenjansen2134 Рік тому +4

      That movie was always great.

    • @Axolotl_Mischief
      @Axolotl_Mischief Рік тому +3

      I think it was a matter of hubris & ego.

    • @clkou
      @clkou Рік тому +5

      All I can figure is that John Carpenter's The Thing was just too ahead of its time. The gore and horror was just too much for some people and took them out of overall plot and suspense. All of it is brilliant though and by the 90s or sometime soon after most people realized what a classic The Thing is ...

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 Рік тому

      @@clkou I thought people would've understood that Carpenter's the Thing was great after seeing Halloween personally.

  • @coyoteboy5601
    @coyoteboy5601 Рік тому +4

    I watch both 'Things' every Halloween.

  • @jasonhunter2819
    @jasonhunter2819 Рік тому +9

    I remember seeing just a few minutes of this on tv when I was a very young kid about to go trick or treating, it's cool to find out a lot more information about it all these years later. I don't know why I've never looked into the original since John Carpenter's version is also one of my favorite movies

  • @wraithstrongopark
    @wraithstrongopark Рік тому +3

    i signed on to the channel for the laughs, but these deeps dives are just as entertaining.

  • @michaelaldan4354
    @michaelaldan4354 Рік тому +6

    still remember this movie to this day...what a groundbreaker....thanks for the upload Cecil!

  • @Jackdelroy1
    @Jackdelroy1 Рік тому +33

    James Arness was the biggest and scariest vegetable ever lol. Such a classic! Also, Roger Ebert has never been more wrong concerning John Carpenter's remake. Thanks for the great video.

    • @brandonpage7087
      @brandonpage7087 Рік тому +4

      Yes, he & all the other critics were horribly wrong. I still, till this day, do not understand all the hate Carpenter's brilliant film received.

    • @rmhartman
      @rmhartman Рік тому +2

      the thing (*ahem*) they didn't understand was that it wasn't a remake, it was in modern parlance, a reboot. referring not to the first movie, but actually going back to the original source material. as a remake of "the thing from another world" it was crap. as a reboot of "who goes there" it was fantastic.

    • @demontekdigital1704
      @demontekdigital1704 Рік тому

      Roger Ebert is an idiot, and always has been. He, and Siskel were the first critics that made me realize not to trust critics, and pretty much do exactly the opposite of what they recommended when it came to horror. If they love it, I won't watch it. If they hate it, it's usually a damn good movie. Their idea of "good horror" is something akin to a Goosebumps movie, lol.

    • @Lazrael32
      @Lazrael32 Рік тому +2

      allegedly ebert didn't even go to a lot of the movies he reviewed. he would have a random intern go and summarize the movie for him.

    • @RSEFX
      @RSEFX Рік тому +4

      @@brandonpage7087 The film may just have been too ahead of its time in intensity and pure imaginative strangeness.

  • @chrisnurczyk8239
    @chrisnurczyk8239 Рік тому +2

    Love this film, have watched it over & over again since the early 60's. It never gets old. Because the actors spent so much time together, they bonded and the film has a very real, authentic feel to it. It breathes. Listening to the the men talking in the film (especially in the scene flying out to the saucer) I can hear the same discussions & interplay (& BS) of my father & his Air Force fellows on the military side of O'Hare field back then. Kenneth Tobey, one of my favorites, was greatly underrated - always gave organic, believable performances.

  • @WaterShowsProd
    @WaterShowsProd Рік тому +2

    I love this movie, and have watched it countless times, so I can't believe I never noticed that was George Fenneman! That said, I'm surprised you didn't mention legendary voice actor Paul Frees as another one of the scientists.

    • @ohgary
      @ohgary Рік тому +2

      I recognized George Fenneman from the Groucho Marx tv show. He didn’t get a credit on screen…

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd Рік тому +1

      @@ohgary That's why I'm surprised. I've been a fan of You Bet Your Life for much of mine, so it's funny that I never realised it was him in this movie. That said, I did think that he looked familiar.

    • @kensellers4082
      @kensellers4082 Рік тому +1

      George Fenneman said that he had a very difficult time in trying to explain to Ken Tobey just how the scientists were able to pinpoint the “strange object’s” position. It took him multiple takes to get it right and it convinced him to be a television announcer instead of continuing on as an actor.

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd Рік тому +1

      @@kensellers4082 As someone who has been given challenging dialogue to deliver, I can certainly sympathise with him. :)

  • @1kylecurry
    @1kylecurry Рік тому +12

    Hell yes & thank you Cecil! One of my favorite movies of all time! One of my favorite novellas of all time! Also with other movies from the "Atomic Age" 1950s like the fore mentioned "The Day The Earth Stood Still...","When Worlds Collide..." along with "War Of The Worlds" "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, "THEM" & many others gave me a profound love for horror sci fi genre. I have recently read "Frozen Hell" E-book & it is excellent! From the information I have heard, John Carpenter will be brought in some capacity...Probably continuity with his absolute gem masterpiece adaptation & music, can't wait!! I ask Blumhouse Films to please take your time with script, scope & "only" use practical FX, one of the reason that "The Thing" - 2011 underperformed, I thought it was a good movie, but the CGI failed miserably. Please continue to "explore" more 50's horror sci fi. Great backstory information...! "KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES...!!!".

  • @evyled
    @evyled Рік тому +8

    Great episode! Hope to see more Exploring episodes of films from that era. Fingers crossed for THEM getting the treatment.

  • @DarraghC
    @DarraghC Рік тому +1

    One of the best sci-fi movies ever made, a lot of movies since borrowed heavily from this.

  • @kellyrogers4492
    @kellyrogers4492 Рік тому +1

    This had always been my Dad’s favorite version of The Thing . Though I have always loved it, along with Them. The John Carpenter / Kurt Russell version is my favorite along with Phantasm. But any movie with Kenneth Toby is a winner along with Dick Miller. Besides, 1982 was a year of unappreciated gems! I plan on using a Blair quote on my tombstone come hell or high water. Thank you for study. Now there’s just Them, Phantasm, and Carpenter’s The Thing. But WHY would anyone tamper wit perfection. I showed this to my niece, who turned around and showed it to her torture porn addicted cousins. Let’s just say those young boys had several sleepless nights. Thank you,Cecil for all your hard work and dedication!

  • @WhatAboutZoidberg
    @WhatAboutZoidberg Рік тому +9

    The fact that some of the reviewers at the time thought the practical effects of John Carpenters The Thing were anything but stellar is baffling. Really need to watch the OG sometime.

    • @mikegrossberg8624
      @mikegrossberg8624 Рік тому +3

      As far as I'm concerned, the original "THING" achieved a remarkable amount of terror WITHOUT the use of "YUCK! factor" CGI effects, as used in the remake!

    • @andy-the-gardener
      @andy-the-gardener Рік тому

      @@mikegrossberg8624 saw it a few days ago. the acting and location aspects were great, but not impressed with the main creature at all. they were on the right track with the little creepy flowers, and should have expanded on that idea. there was zero explanation how the little plants became the very unfrightening frankensteins monster. i think they could have knocked up something 'weirder' and scarier fairly easily, simply expanding on the notion of 'carnivorous plants' they had set up already. easy to say in hindsight i suppose, but howard hughes also said dont just make it a [boring] frankenstein. a bit of a wasted opportunity.

    • @alantasman8273
      @alantasman8273 Рік тому +2

      Carpenters the The Thing was a gorefest.....the characters were underdeveloped and scenes like when the head of the camp shot the Norwegian... killing him rather than maiming him was over the top. If you are into gore fine, but story telling without all the gore and creature features has always upped the re-watch factor of movies I like to watch.

    • @mikegrossberg8624
      @mikegrossberg8624 Рік тому +2

      @@alantasman8273 That's what I said. The original didn't need to have "yuck" splattered all over the place to achieve the desired effect!

    • @alantasman8273
      @alantasman8273 Рік тому +1

      @@mikegrossberg8624 The imagination has a way of making things more gross than can ever be brought to film. Movies like Jaws, where the shark was not really seen till the last part of the movie worked best because it was left to the audience imagination the horrors of the shark, creating suspense for the ultimate reveal.

  • @djkangal
    @djkangal Рік тому +6

    Pretty much the definitive documentary on the original movie. Great work Cecil; keep it up with the classic movies!

  • @Axolotl_Mischief
    @Axolotl_Mischief Рік тому +7

    I've always loathed Ebert, and his feelings on Carpenter's remake is one of many reasons why.

  • @benderbendingrodriguez420
    @benderbendingrodriguez420 Рік тому +47

    love when the old classics are covered on youtube. with how awful movies have become recently, we must keep the classics alive!

  • @daltonmoen1404
    @daltonmoen1404 Рік тому +3

    As a giant fan of this and the John Carpenter movie and as someone who is from North Dakota, I had no idea about that little fact. Usually shit like that is pretty well known by most people in the state. There's not a lot to do there so anytime someone gets famous or they use it for a movie or show, no one shuts up about it

  • @xray86delta
    @xray86delta Рік тому +4

    The black and white version of "The Thing", by Howard Hawks, was hands down the best telling of this story. The dialogue was razor sharp. If you haven't seen it, watch it. If you haven't seen it in a while, watch it again! Great movie!

  • @hoagland1943
    @hoagland1943 9 місяців тому +1

    From everything that I have read, both Nyby and Hawks both directed the movie. Close up or very detailed scenes, Hawks stepped in and with all other scenes Nyby directed. Some of the actors, Kenneth Toby was one who said that both of them did.

  • @JoquinhosHard
    @JoquinhosHard Рік тому +4

    This film influenced the director Petter Baiesterof to create the film "The Space Vegetable Monster". A very famous movie here in Brazil.

  • @MrNachoChannel
    @MrNachoChannel Рік тому +6

    Glad you reminded me of Frozen Hell, I forgot that came out and wanted to check it out.
    Years ago I read the short story version while on a trip to Jamaica and knowing how old it was I was blown away, especially knowing the existence of the original movie, how ahead of its time that short was when you see how close John Carpenter got to it.
    Great Video!

  • @logicreason2736
    @logicreason2736 Рік тому +2

    One of all time favorite movies. Thanks for the backstory.

  • @dadahyena
    @dadahyena Рік тому +2

    20:22 Great to see a mention of the Space Thing model; it was designed by horror artist Pete von Sholly, who was also a storyboard artist on huge number of films. Pete is still active with comics, most of which are homages/parodies of classic horror, so they're definitely of interest to anyone watching this video!

  • @BottomBunkArt
    @BottomBunkArt Рік тому +9

    I have never been able to stand Roger Ebert. He had so many incorrect hot takes and they influenced the popularity of movies at their time of release.

  • @chrismartin1211
    @chrismartin1211 Рік тому +7

    now this is the way to wake up!
    thanks for all the work you do to make these videos, Chief
    glad you're doing better

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance Рік тому +1

    As a late teen, I read the original story and was impress. As a very little, young person, I saw the film and remember it as the beginning of the B+W, Sifi era of Saturday matinees... The first remake was the best. It was the beginning of the CGI era and it really tried to be faithful to the story.. The gold of CGI has turned to brass but Campbell was ahead of his time in exploring a biogenetic freeform... thank you for your piece...

  • @JaneSmith-so6hw
    @JaneSmith-so6hw Рік тому +2

    This is one of the greatest sci-fi/horror movies of all time. It's a relic of the time period when also providing an amazing story. Ture, a good amount of scenes are dedicated to characters talking and adjusting to the base, which makes it feel like we're watching real people do real shit. Still in my top ten movies of all time.

  • @jonmurphy4889
    @jonmurphy4889 Рік тому +1

    Yes I've always wanted you to do a video on this classic!!!

  • @PeachBoi_Real
    @PeachBoi_Real Рік тому +1

    One of the first sci fi films I ever watched, love to see you cover it!

  • @mattchew6426
    @mattchew6426 Рік тому

    Thanks, Cecil. This is a great video. Keep up the excellent work!!!

  • @jponeill2151
    @jponeill2151 Рік тому +4

    Such a legendary movie. So glad it is getting some love.

  • @KingIggy
    @KingIggy Рік тому +2

    Been waiting and ya did not disappoint. Love your work man!

  • @wendyhill3856
    @wendyhill3856 Рік тому +1

    Great documentary,and well done,love both versions of the movie,once again many thanks ….

  • @ThomasTiernan
    @ThomasTiernan Рік тому +2

    The film starts in Anchorage. They then fly 4 hours NE to the research base.

  • @videoj81
    @videoj81 Рік тому +1

    Well done !! I've seen plenty of videos on the 80s classic the Thing , but not much on this classic . Thank you for posting

  • @Two_Ravens
    @Two_Ravens Рік тому +1

    This is one of a handful of movies I keep on my phone to listen to while shopping or sleeping. It's a great film and a joy to listen to.

  • @lancebuttox9637
    @lancebuttox9637 Рік тому +2

    That was wonderful as always, thank you

  • @paulfransman2450
    @paulfransman2450 Рік тому

    Great review, thanks Paul

  • @classiccomedycinemaprogram1640

    I've never seen a better burn scene in any movie!

    • @GoodBadFlicks
      @GoodBadFlicks  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, the full burn in this is incredible.

  • @Morbos1000
    @Morbos1000 Рік тому +20

    Why would you get rid of the imitation part of the alien's abilities? That is far and away the scariest part of the story! Literally anyone could be the alien in disguise. That's why the 80s version worked so well.

    • @A77Everything
      @A77Everything Рік тому +7

      Did you not watch the video? It was a budget reason

    • @Merylstreep1949
      @Merylstreep1949 Рік тому +2

      I think because 1950s audiences would have not understood that bit like more modern day audiences who know more about source material

    • @mgass1354
      @mgass1354 Рік тому +5

      @@A77Everything
      Budget along with practical effects at the time were nowhere near what they are/were, even in the 70s (think Alien). They simply had to go with the alien being in human form.

    • @A77Everything
      @A77Everything Рік тому +3

      @@mgass1354 True I agree

    • @louisbrugnoni7639
      @louisbrugnoni7639 Рік тому

      I was not a big fan of the remake. Course I dislike most of the remakes of my favorite all time movies.

  • @johnwhite4810
    @johnwhite4810 Рік тому +1

    One of my favorite sci-fi films! Brilliant in all aspects.

  • @benpuffer7891
    @benpuffer7891 Рік тому

    I love this movie. Watched it all the time as a kid. Enjoy the dialog.

  • @Goblin_Tank
    @Goblin_Tank Рік тому +1

    Bravo. Love the video!

  • @flyingninja1234
    @flyingninja1234 Рік тому +1

    One of my favorite science fiction films. Thank you for this.

  • @AnomalyINC
    @AnomalyINC Рік тому +2

    Not overly stoked on the news about another remake. I applaud the desire to make something more closely following the book, but treading in the footsteps of two of the most influential sci-fi movies of all time seems to me like a fool's errand considering the state of current-day Hollywood.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Рік тому +3

    I remember watching this movie on TCM, knowing that this was the original THING.

  • @garyharris6883
    @garyharris6883 Рік тому

    I have been watching this movie for decades. Lots of fun.

  • @intrepid5144
    @intrepid5144 Рік тому

    "The Thing" came out the same year I was born, and it wasn't until I was older, that I saw it on TV! It is my Favorite "Monster Movie" of all time, and although I have read the original story, I still love this movie!

  • @alantasman8273
    @alantasman8273 Рік тому

    What made this film fantastic was not only the writing but the delivery by the actors actually talking over each other as people do in real life. It truly was the Howard Hawk's style. Any sci-fi aficionado will recognize Kenneth Tobey's great and believable work as in many other such films. The thing I liked most about this ensemble of actors is that they portrayed genuine relationships and were believable as a group caught in such dire straits. That they even joked about their situation.... to cut the tenseness...is a joy to watch. Margaret Sheridan also gave for the time a rare performance as a brave independent women juggling a world full of men. Wow, she was a beauty. This has always been one of my favorites and has aged very well. It has a remarkable watch again factor.

    • @kensellers4082
      @kensellers4082 Рік тому +1

      I read a comment from one film critic who said that you actually like and care about Captain Hendry and his men, newspaperman Ned Scott and the sane and realistic scientists at that North Pole research site.
      In most other sci-fi films, the military and scientific characters are, at best, of secondary interest.

  • @theorcosaurus
    @theorcosaurus Рік тому +1

    I just wanted to say that you are still my favorite movies related channel on UA-cam!

  • @robertsantana3261
    @robertsantana3261 Рік тому

    What a terrific doc. And I like the guy’s voice. More! Please!

  • @petecoogan
    @petecoogan 7 місяців тому +1

    Very good overview of the film. Wilford Brimley was Howard Hughes body guard in 1950-1951 and may have been on set

  • @blacksuede
    @blacksuede Рік тому +2

    Incredible action scene with the fire and flare

  • @jamesrobbins1243
    @jamesrobbins1243 Рік тому

    The Exploring part of Good Bad Flicks is the best thing on UA-cam!!

  • @otaking3582
    @otaking3582 Рік тому +3

    Yes, The Thing From Another World, not to be confused with Ben Grimm, the original American name for Mothra, nor the Addams Family's cousin / pet-disembodied-hand.

  • @pdzombie1906
    @pdzombie1906 Рік тому +1

    Ah, the 80's!! Back when remakes were good and critics were not (well, actually, critics are worst now).
    Thanx, Cecil! Great as usual!!!

  • @gserhardt
    @gserhardt Рік тому +1

    I remember going to see this in the theater when it came out, my dad took me under protest (I was a few years too young to get in on my own) and told me if I had any nightmares afterwards I better not come crying to him about it, LOL. I NEVER understood how it didn't do better in theaters. I've always considered this one of my top 10 movies and I'm glad it gets the love today it should have had when it released.

  • @RavenHouseMystery
    @RavenHouseMystery Рік тому +1

    Thanks for another wonderful episode, Cecil. Your research was very thorough, and I learned a lot about the film that I never knew before. I had always wondered where the "saucer crash site" was filmed and you gave a great presentation on that.
    The Thing is also a special movie for me personally. My dad first saw The Thing when it came out in 1951. He was a teenager at the time and said it was the scariest film he had ever seen. Decades later when I was eight years old, my dad couldn't wait to see my reaction to it on television. That first viewing scared me as well.

  • @JoseyWales44s
    @JoseyWales44s Рік тому

    Defintiely one of the great sci-fi films of all time. I recall being at my girlfriend's (now wife) house back in the early 90s while her mother and uncle were watching "The Thing from Another World" on a little 13-inch television. When the scene came up where the Thing is revealed standing behind the door that was opened by our heros, both screamed and jumped about a foot off of the couch. Sill a scary movie after all of those years.
    Great vid on a great film.