Edith Stein's philosophy of empathy

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  • @ReynaSingh
    @ReynaSingh 2 роки тому +47

    These lectures are great. Thank you

    • @illiakailli
      @illiakailli 2 роки тому

      any particular idea you liked?

  • @bivinspoetry
    @bivinspoetry 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you so much for your lecture.
    I'm a student of Philosophy.
    I'm planning to do my thesis on Edith Stein's philosophy of empathy.
    With Gratitude,
    Bivin Sunny

  • @ClaudeEmond
    @ClaudeEmond 2 роки тому +19

    This video permitted me to discover the work of Edith Stein and then read about her extraordinary life and tragic end in Auschwitz. I am very grateful to you for this discovery and even more grateful to Edith Stein for having done all she has done to make ourselves more humans ! I also subscribed to your channel and to you podcast. Thank you very much Dr. Anderson. Namaste

  • @ChaosArtist
    @ChaosArtist 2 роки тому +9

    "It's almost as if in empathising with another person I am receiving their subjectivity". Very nicely put! This is the feeling I get when someone is able to receive my subjective experience without the feeling the need to reason about my subjective experience based on their own.

  • @MatinhoConter
    @MatinhoConter 2 роки тому +7

    This lecture was so insightful that made me create a playlist called philosophy on youtube. And to have many ideas popping in my head. This makes me become a writer, an intelectual, a lover, a floating tree with roots in the sky. Making clouds their home, their secret keepers, and the sun the storyteller. Basically it made me imaginative and grounded at the same time. Thank you

  • @abdulamin4007
    @abdulamin4007 2 роки тому +6

    Feel blessed that I found your lil channel. love your content, please don't stop uploading ♥️

  • @alexmechnik2465
    @alexmechnik2465 2 роки тому +4

    Being happy for a friend who's enjoying a trashy concert is an experience of radical otherness indeed! God bless my mirror neurons!
    And thanks a lot for this great video!

  • @joshuahuang7578
    @joshuahuang7578 2 роки тому +5

    Great one! Would love more Edith Stein.

  • @nightspore4850
    @nightspore4850 2 роки тому +7

    Fabulous! Wonderful to run across a talk on Edith. She was great. Studied under Husserl but in some important ways went beyond him. Very important insights. More on ES please.

  • @williamkraemer8338
    @williamkraemer8338 2 роки тому +5

    I learned a lot from this presentation. Thank you Prof. Anderson.

  • @davidmatta2727
    @davidmatta2727 2 роки тому +17

    Great explanation! Empathy is neither imagination (simulation) nor reasoning (inference). It is the primordial perception of otherness. I am a Steinian!

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 5 місяців тому

      How can a perception of otherness originate outside the perceiver?
      Is she positing some kind of ESP?

  • @ChristianPlatonist
    @ChristianPlatonist 2 роки тому +4

    Very well done! Great and lively summary of this genuinely interesting view! Greetings, a fellow philosopher

  • @willingtobeunique4385
    @willingtobeunique4385 2 роки тому +2

    Wow! Thank you. I loved receiving ideas about my elusive beloved empathy. I'm really inspired that there are so many ways of thinking about empathy that I have not thought of already. And I loved especially the distinction between primordial and non-primordial experience.. There is something so satisfying to me in learning about this. Now let me see. I'm learning this from your lecture and not from my experience, but I think it is still primordial since learning from your lecture is my experience. Maybe it is that the lecture gives a name to some content of primordial experience that exists in me already.
    Anyway, I'm very grateful to hear what you had to say and also that you were able to present in a way that I could receive.

  • @RealBallabc
    @RealBallabc 4 місяці тому

    Found this podcast by way of reading Timothy Snyder's new book, On Freedom. He references Edith Stein, whom I had known nothing about until today. Excellent video Professor Anderson!

  • @johntent
    @johntent 2 роки тому +2

    Wow. Wonderful short lecture. Thank you very much. !

  • @tsunevra
    @tsunevra 2 роки тому +3

    I've noriced that while talking to other people I do not imagine myself in their shoes in order to understand their feelings. And I've always thought that it was abnormal to do so. But after your video I realized that in fact no, maybe I wasn't really understanding how empathy works. I shoud really check out this work of Stein. Thank you for this insight!

  • @kipwonder2233
    @kipwonder2233 2 роки тому +2

    Your content is INCREDIBLE👏👏👏. Thank you

  • @mu.makbarzadeh2831
    @mu.makbarzadeh2831 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for sharing this clip.

  • @MiguelThinks
    @MiguelThinks 2 роки тому +2

    I am new to your channel and so happy to discover someone dealing with the same subjects I'm studying as a post-grad!

  • @thelordkk512
    @thelordkk512 2 роки тому +3

    This is a great channel

  • @devilmann6996
    @devilmann6996 Рік тому

    Thank you for this explanation! I'm using this for my BA paper and referencing you. Cheers.

  • @bivinspoetry
    @bivinspoetry 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much. Great lecture. I'm doing my research on “Empathy as the Experience of Foreign Consciousness: An Analysis of Edith Stein's Phenomenological Concept of Einfühlung.”

  • @patriciarocco2610
    @patriciarocco2610 11 місяців тому

    Wonderful lecture. Informative and breaks it down for greater understanding.

  • @tinyleopard6741
    @tinyleopard6741 Рік тому

    Thanks! I hope there's more phenomenology to come.

  • @losrevolucionarios8858
    @losrevolucionarios8858 2 роки тому +12

    Thats Saint Edith Stein

    • @beverleypettit3577
      @beverleypettit3577 Рік тому

      ☦️ Yes. Blessed Edith.
      The way of the Cross...
      Not to be taken lightly.
      It IS draining.
      I know what I feel when someone else understands what I'm enduring.
      Their understanding brings (my) relief and eases my plight.
      They're a rare species.

    • @dannylutz194
      @dannylutz194 10 місяців тому

      well, Ste. Teresia Benedicta a Cruce, but point made.

  • @tubejim101
    @tubejim101 5 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @chand145
    @chand145 2 місяці тому

    Exceptionally great

  • @jerrykowal7600
    @jerrykowal7600 2 роки тому

    many thanks to ur videos. the work you made is amazing.

  • @Bobby_101
    @Bobby_101 2 роки тому +2

    Cool thought. I think there is something possibly overlooked here for clarification/expanding.
    *
    Since memory is the non primordial origin of the phenomena we primordially experience, just in the past.
    And fantasy is the same thing, but the non primordial phenomena being in the future...
    Empathy is our primordial experience of the non primordial phenomena in the Now - just now the distance between us is not time, but space (perspective). It is outside of us.
    This could put empathy in the same boat as Any other type of experience of anything. Unless clarified further.
    Via the quality of the outside phenomena.
    -For example "I feel the wind blowing at me"... I primordially experience it.. and the content is primordial too...
    But the same can be said for empathy as long as we just react emotionally to our primordial experience (content) of seeing another persons emotions.
    -So in case of true empathy, there is something different then experiencing the actual content, but also different from reacting to past or future non primordial content. But the mix + more.
    The memory being the strongest experience, due to having a direct contact with the content before. (Reconstruct)
    The fantasy being a close second, by constructing the content from mental information that is based on past input... which is experientially same as a "fake memory". (Reconstruct + Modify)
    While empathy, like fantasy, constructs an inner representation of the non experienced content. But unlike fantasy which constructs it from just pieces of past input - which is a two step process... Empathy does the same, but not only basing the fantasy on past input but also on present outside perspective assumption.
    Which is (React to outside (space) + Reconstruct (time) + Modify)
    *
    And the modify part being relevant too, not just the space + time, since we never experienced it ourselves like a memory, so empathy is like a fantasy of what the other person is feeling. (Based on the emotional content primarily. Since a fantasy can be created from sensory + emotional information both... and while sensory information might also be fantasized to aid the empathy reaction, the emotional information will be primarily what is recognized as empathy. Since we are very well capable of fantasizing only with emotions without sense use.)
    This is theoretical logic of the mechanism of course.
    How it Actually happens is a biological process though (like what all of psychology comes down to in the end), most likely to do with mirror neurons copying what the eyes and ears see and hear.
    The philosophical exploitation is really just wordplay most of the time, trying to find the most accurate way to describe the process of something verbally.

  • @TheTimeshadows
    @TheTimeshadows 2 роки тому +5

    Indifference: Oh, I didn't see you there.
    Sympathy: Oh, that happened to me once, let me tell you about it...
    Empathy: I have no idea what you are going through, but, I'm here for you; how can I help?

    • @RickJaeger
      @RickJaeger 4 дні тому

      I don't think even one of these summations is accurate.

  • @TheCommuted
    @TheCommuted 2 роки тому +5

    Being afflicted with empathy I feel like I have a well developed understanding. Modeling is practical for acting purposefully. Some people who have difficulty controlling themselves have detailed models that include their weakness to 2nd guess themselves. Models that describe the world. Models that describe other people. Sometimes these models of other people draw too much from self, or too little. Feel bite of a high standard or the rub of the low standard.
    Model of a person permits an escalation where the model can be queried instead of the person, which is leading to dehumanization since respect would give wider berth. Reliance on the model can lead to many problems where it blocks our view of the existential. Is it an ethical violation to have a model of what makes someone happy? I have some fresh thoughts on this where I examined whether empathetic reaction could be evidence of vain or improper judgment. Judgment requires belief in the model and belief prevents us from seeing to the origin. The first chapter of Bonhoeffer's Ethics in the discussion of origin is relevant here. This is a huge area of personal ethics for me. All of my self examination is based on the plurality of models.
    The empathetic connections is uncomfortably deep. It lies beneath the model, it short circuits a sensory pattern into our very being. We are not modelling with empathy, we are feeling as nearly as possible the actual sensations according to the depth of the connection we created. We exposed ourselves directly to other peoples experience. If only there was a pill.

    • @kimhongchung9240
      @kimhongchung9240 2 роки тому +1

      Your comments changed my whole perspective on life

  • @MrSonofsonof
    @MrSonofsonof 2 роки тому +4

    Nice. I like the way you give examples ( memory of day at the beach etc.) because phenomenologists traditionally used them so sparingly, as if they were only for simpletons. I have ploughed through thousands of pages Husserl and Heidegger, and came away with nothing.

  • @theory_underground
    @theory_underground 2 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @trinidadraj152
    @trinidadraj152 2 роки тому +1

    Can you do a video on Martha Nussbaum's thoughts on the emotional life?

  • @bookerandavril
    @bookerandavril 2 роки тому +4

    Love it! Really interesting to see how it could be applied to the relationship of human beings and animals

    • @berniv7375
      @berniv7375 Рік тому

      Human beings are animals. If you wanted to empathise with other animals you would need to free yourself from many prejudices and conditionings.🌱

  • @Gerry-jr1mp
    @Gerry-jr1mp Рік тому +7

    She is not just a phenomonologist - first and foremost she is a Carmelite nun and Saint

  • @kajmeijer611
    @kajmeijer611 10 місяців тому

    Hi Ellie, love the content you're making here, very illuminating! 😁 I study philosophy and, at the moment, we're covering Stein's phenomenology. I've made notes while watching this video, but noticed a discrepancy between what you said and what I read in the text I have in front of me, 'The Essence of Acts of Empathy'. Stein says, and I cite, "Are empathized experiences primordial or not? [...] After the preceding discussion, we can flatly answer the first question in the negative (p.18)." Now, if I'm not mistaken, you said that they were in fact primordial experiences with non-primordial content, right? I hope you have the text at your disposal 😅Please let me know if I misinterpreted you.

  • @propriusly
    @propriusly Рік тому +3

    Thus her exclaim after reading the autobiography of St. Teresa of Avila, "That is truth".

    • @uncatila
      @uncatila 2 місяці тому +1

      That's why I read it and benefited much.

  • @JMBCARNEIRO
    @JMBCARNEIRO 2 роки тому

    muito boa explicação. very good explanation. há muita confusão no debate atual sobre empatia. there is a lot of confusion on the actual debate about empathy. obrigado. thks

  • @liamdacre1818
    @liamdacre1818 Рік тому

    I loved the video 😊

  • @kabangukabangu2529
    @kabangukabangu2529 Місяць тому

    How does it work when one feels jealousy at the joy of others or when one feels joy at the suffering of others?

  • @sharona1211
    @sharona1211 2 роки тому +2

    Good ! Edith Stein is awesome

  • @nsaipascal6381
    @nsaipascal6381 2 роки тому

    Hello, please how can I get to you?. I need to learn more about empathy in Edith Stein

  • @PaxMundi118
    @PaxMundi118 Рік тому +3

    Saint Theresa Benedicta of the Cross, pray for us!

  • @ydaliagomez4449
    @ydaliagomez4449 5 місяців тому +1

    Today we celebrate St Teresa Benedict of the cross (Edith Stein), I discovered her years ago, when I was trying to find the Saint of my birthday. So exceptional, person. She embraced Jesus Christ Cross.
    She left us a treasured knowledge.

  • @TheGreekCatholic
    @TheGreekCatholic 2 роки тому

    Any chance we can hear about Levinas ?😊

  • @azertyssement1
    @azertyssement1 2 роки тому

    So if we read text from the past, like historical texts, and we try to understand the mind of the writer in the past, we empathize for Stein?

  • @michaeldillon3113
    @michaeldillon3113 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder why for me at least I can empathize with say someone's suffering but not with their joy . So if something good happens to a friend then I am pleased for them but if they are suffering in some way - illness or loss say - then I feel it viscerally. It reduces otherness for me . More of a mystical experience of oneness of their suffering. Simone Weill I think was an extreme example of this - taking only limited amounts of food because of people going hungry in the world ✌️

    • @beverleypettit3577
      @beverleypettit3577 Рік тому

      Ditto for me.
      I feel the pain of another.
      It is draining.
      Though I'm not much of an intellectual 😉

    • @johannesbaptistlotz9650
      @johannesbaptistlotz9650 Рік тому

      I wonder if there are two different uses of the word empathy. Maybe one is empathy in its philosophy usage, which has more to do with how we know what another person is thinking or feeling -- or more generally, how we know that another person is experiencing mental states at all, as opposed to a cup of coffee, or any inanimate object, that has no emotive or cognitive experience. Empathy in this philosophical sense refers to how we differentiate objects from persons (which Ellie Anderson touches on in the beginning of her video). Taken that way, Stein's account outlines the phenomenological basis for how this process occurs; the source of this emotion or thought is not from within but from without. When I look at someone, I "perceive" their emotions and thoughts. Then, there is empathy in its common parlance, which is what I think you're touching on -- what the video calls "living in another person's shoes." I think in some of the video's examples, it's not always easy to see when we're taking about the general process of knowing what someone else is feeling or thinking (its philosophical meaning) vs. when we're talking about the being-in-someone-else's-shoes sense of empathy (the more common way the word is used in English). I think the philosophical meaning that Stein's after has more to do with the problem of other minds, whereas run-of-the-mill empathy is something more specific.

  • @aisthpaoitht
    @aisthpaoitht Рік тому

    I think that empathy is the only bridge between the otherwise separate internal subjective experience and the external objective world.

  • @AmyFerguson
    @AmyFerguson 2 роки тому +1

    I like it!
    Just seeing another person as a separate being with their own world that we will never know!
    AND the only way we are ever going to get close is to start from that fact. I can’t know what it’s like to be the other person. To assume to do actually shuts yourself off in your own head.

  • @nowrozraisani6920
    @nowrozraisani6920 2 роки тому +3

    Empathy is an intellectual virtue.... any way thanks for the lecture.peace.

    • @illiakailli
      @illiakailli 2 роки тому +1

      it could be, but doesn't have to be that necessarily.

    • @nowrozraisani6920
      @nowrozraisani6920 2 роки тому

      @@illiakailli you don,t understand, or you lack understanding, i feel sorry for you or i empathize with you.

    • @illiakailli
      @illiakailli 2 роки тому

      @@nowrozraisani6920 you came to a very good channel, that's already a step in a right direction, well done!
      any relevant comments regarding content of the lecture?

  • @RUDYFERNANDOGONZALEZESCOBAR
    @RUDYFERNANDOGONZALEZESCOBAR 2 роки тому

    Superlike desde Guatemala.

  • @koffeeblack5717
    @koffeeblack5717 Рік тому

    To make a point you made more explicit, Stein's view of empathy as perceptual is the condition for the possibility of the more discursive and heuristic approaches to empathy (simulation and analogy) being meaningfully empathetic. We must first know the other as possessing the full dignity or reality as a separate person, or locus of subjectivity, before we can expand our understanding of their unique situation through the tools of simulation and analogy.

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 5 місяців тому

      How is that different from basic theory of mind sinply being lived out?
      How is this the perception originating outside the perceiver?

  • @RocketKirchner
    @RocketKirchner 2 роки тому

    Stein merged Husserl with the Catholic sacrament of confession . Check out Simone Weil on this as well .

  • @kamilziemian995
    @kamilziemian995 8 місяців тому

    Interesting.

  • @catsaresocute650
    @catsaresocute650 2 роки тому

    Conseuently why does some degee of empathy feel inherenty necessery for being able to even remotly listen to another person? Like w Lex I don't belive he has bad intentions exactly, but the ability to treat Tart as somone who's views could have the remotest trace of something that isn't absulut evil is in like a lack of empathy enogh to make me so totally angry at some I had admired?

  • @illiakailli
    @illiakailli 2 роки тому +1

    I like general idea of it, but it seems that terminology around it is overly complicated without a real need. If we drop 'primordial experience' and leave 'primordial content' and 'non-primordial content' terms, things will be much easier to understand.
    We can distinguish between memories/fantasies and real experience, otherwise we'd be lost in hallucinations ... so 'content primordiality' emphasizes this difference. I think its important to point out that any experience itself varies not only by its intensity, but also by its ability to trigger subjective association chains which are unique for every individual, therefore ideal empathy as well as ideal theory of mind is impossible. This doesn't mean you can't reach high levels of similarity between primordial and non-primordial contents, as the whole purpose of theory of mind is prediction of future behaviour. Therefore, you need high levels of empathy in order to be a good predictor!

  • @tedjaeckel5623
    @tedjaeckel5623 2 роки тому

    Please do a cast involving the current political situation, as controversial as it….

  • @justinfung4351
    @justinfung4351 Рік тому

    How is this not just a verbose adaptation of simulation theory? Could one easily not argue that fantasy, memory, and empathy all fall under a broad umbrella category of simulation?

  • @JJBushfan
    @JJBushfan 2 роки тому

    Well, I think that was all pretty self-evident. Does she ever get into the mystery of consciousness itself in a way that is provable?

  • @DjTahoun
    @DjTahoun 2 роки тому +1

    🌷😇🌷

  • @unknown-gt9rk
    @unknown-gt9rk 2 роки тому +1

    you are very hardworking Prof....Also, beautiful...I love your lectures

  • @ravissary79
    @ravissary79 5 місяців тому

    All perception is generated. It's super weird for a professional in psychology to think a perception is independent or external to the perceiver.
    There's something weird going on there, metaphysically, in defiance of all modern science in psychology.
    It sounds more like ESP.

  • @TheFreezerGeezer
    @TheFreezerGeezer 2 роки тому

    Imo, a lot of people confuse empathy with sympathy.

  • @michaeltse321
    @michaeltse321 2 роки тому

    Kaboom - my mind has been blown

  • @Tyler-bz3py
    @Tyler-bz3py 8 місяців тому

    This is a great explanation but secular scholars really need to respect her status as a Carmelite Nun and Catholic Saint. Its almost never mentioned in these videos. Its not inconsequential to her philosophy.

    • @OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy
      @OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy  8 місяців тому

      Not sure what suggests a lack of respect for this status? As a video about her theory of empathy, this isn't biographical (although, apropos of that, she wasn't yet a nun or even Catholic yet when she wrote "On the Problem of Empathy"). Her theological ideas are also worth discussing, but that would be for a different video!

    • @shanonsnyder9450
      @shanonsnyder9450 5 місяців тому

      They do the same thing with Kierkegaard. Completely sanitize these brilliant thinkers of their foundational Christian identity.

    • @shanonsnyder9450
      @shanonsnyder9450 5 місяців тому

      @@OverthinkPodcastPhilosophyHer theological insights are foundational to the whole of her philosophy, particularly its later development.

  • @identiybodega
    @identiybodega 2 роки тому

    Great Work....take some leave for freedom....perhaps at least State your opinions at the end.

    • @OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy
      @OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy  2 роки тому

      Hi there! The purpose of these videos is to offer short and to-the-point summaries of key ideas. If you're interested in more of Dr. Anderson's opinions, you can listen to our audio podcast: overthinkpodcast.com (or wherever you get your podcasts). We discuss Stein in the Empathy episode from 2021.

  • @knowitall6677
    @knowitall6677 Рік тому

    Later St Teresa Benedicta of the cross. A Jew who became an atheist then a Roman Catholic.

  • @francescoaccomando7781
    @francescoaccomando7781 4 місяці тому

    Remebering by re-presenting by representing.
    "Do this in the remembrance of me" and we re-present the eucharist which represents the body of Christ.
    ps: presenting the eucharist is not re-sacrifice, please don't engage in that rabbit hole.

  • @throwaway999able
    @throwaway999able 2 роки тому

    aren't you just mirroring/masking, then? you manipulate people into liking you, pretending to enjoy things when you really don't?

  • @ravissary79
    @ravissary79 5 місяців тому

    I've never heard primordial used this way before.
    It's very obtuse.

  • @chungchihsu2000
    @chungchihsu2000 2 роки тому +1

    Start with Husserl's inter-subjectivity, end with Sartre's being-for-others. Stein is famous for her death, so is German philosophy. German philosophy ends in WWII.

    • @shanonsnyder9450
      @shanonsnyder9450 5 місяців тому

      You are unfortunately correct, I suspect. Philosophy belongs to the US and China now.

  • @bobcabot
    @bobcabot 2 роки тому

    ...sry "it" , a Freudian! or King?...

  • @tshkrel
    @tshkrel 2 роки тому +1

    This is such bad philosophy it's incredible