Really hope they end up releasing a rarities album. Some of the rare and unreleased songs deserve to see the light of day. This may be one of the best songs of theirs
Who the fuck didn't Green light this for the album??? This is easily one of the best songs of theirs I've ever heard. The heavy mood, the insane vocals. Just how?!
I was watching a video by Rick Beato on it, and he said it was the FIRST song they wrote for this album and generally labels don’t take the first few songs you write as seriously as the ones you write later in the process. So they decided not to use it.
@@agitatedaligator5340 ua-cam.com/video/zUDNHi_uySY/v-deo.html idk how far into the video he says it but pretty sure it was near the beginning. It’s a great video taking about how he goes about making these demos and uses this song as an example!
I can't see that Shinedown has songs that they never want released to radio on all albums. All songs that are explicit, they won't release as a single. They have at least 20 or more songs from each album that they didn't release they are in the vault.
Man, I love finding unreleased songs. It's the same feeling I get when I find a Linkin Park Underground Album at a friend's house; music by popular bands you like that are rarely heard.
unofficial lyrics: You know it starts with a look And then it ends with a lie I should plant my seeds deep So then my roots won't die Do you wish I was more like you Self centered with no point of view I need to give my self pride again Take time to mend my feelings Cause they never change They always stay the same I just can't blame it on my pride again Take time again to mend my feelings And Ill never change ill always be the same Sometimes it seems like I'm closer To maybe feeling alive Some days I wish it was over And thats when I stare in your eyes Do you wish I was more like you Self centered with no point of view I need to give myself pride again Take time to mend my feelings Cause they never change They always stay the same I just can't blame it on my pride again The time I spent believing And ill never change Ill always be the same In this world Its not so black and white But its made out to be Fateful but the design is to deceive And know how they deceive And we have our rights and wrongs So don't pass judgment on me Its your list but its just as long If you dig deep yourself I need to give myself pride again Take time to mend my feelings Cause they never change They always stay the same I just can't blame it on pride again The time I spent believing And ill never change Ill always be the same And ill never change Ill always be the same Can you see me Can you feel me I know you need me Just believe me Can you see me Can you feel me I know you need me Just believe me
"this world is not so black and white". That part is from the demo for Trade Yourself In. That's REALLY different from what happened on the record. This was so good to hear.
They have so many unreleased songs from every album. They record 20 to 30 songs & pick what goes on the album the rest go in what they call the vault. Hope they release them while Brent is alive. I'm sure they will release everything after he is gone but that is always sad.
Shinedown - Be The Same (Verse 1): You know it starts with a look And then it ends with a lie I should plant my seeds deep So, then my roots won't die (Pre-Chorus): Do you wish I was more like you? Self-centered with no point of view (Chorus): I need to give myself pride again Take time to mend my feelings Cause they never change They always stay the same I just can't blame it on pride again The time I spend believing That I’ll never change I’ll always be the same (Verse 2): Sometimes it seems like I'm closer To maybe feeling alive Some days I wish it was over And that’s when I stare in your eyes (Pre-Chorus) (Chorus) (Bridge): In this world It’s not so black and white But it is made out to be It’s a metaphor but the design is to deceive And oh, how they deceived And we have our rights and wrongs So, don't pass judgment on me It’s your list but it’s just as long If you dig deep you’ll say… (Chorus): (Post-Bridge): That I’ll never change I’ll always be the same [you know I’ll always be…] (Out) (x2): Can you see me Can you feel me I know you need me Just believe me
@@daydreamersdmmiller3064 They were not "compromised" back in the earlier days. That's what made them stand out/special. They are still a great bunch of down to earth guys...God knows I've spent mucho $$ on Meet n Greets . But well worth it. Just love the more southern rock, grittiness, heavier sound they had. I also had wished way back they would have give Jasin Todd a "second Chance" if you get what I mean.
@@Lisa-mw5ve I did not say anything about Shinedown being "compromised." I said they started out heavier, because draxthedarkreaper made it sound like it was usual for Shinedown to play heavier music. Atention Atention was not as heavy as Us and Them, Leave a Whisper, or Sound of Maddnes. They have been my favorite band for 17 years. As a matter of fact was at their concert on February 2, 2022! If Planet Zero single is a good representation of the next album, I think they are giving a nod to their long time fans.
Damn ... I have found so much more of their music from the beginning and they have became ROCK LEGENDS , bc I know 20 years from now their music will still be a ritual to so many ..
It’s hard to call it a cover when Brent and Rick wrote the song in Rick’s studio... They may have let One Less Reason have it later on, but it was written to be on Shinedown’s 3rd album.
Apparently there were issues with One Less Reason stealing vocal tracks and demos is what Zach said. He said about suing them but I don't think Brent ever pursued the matter I never heard anything.
So I have a few questions hopefully you can answer. I was wondering who's on guitar in this session? What amp head and mic's they were using if you know anything about the signal chain that would be great! Thanks.
I’m unsure of the equipment used, but my guy Rick Beato has a UA-cam channel and would be able to address these if he hasn’t already in one of his videos.
@@SickBoyTV yeah that makes sense being that he worked on all of that early shinedown stuff. Thanks man! Didn't realise this was from his vault. Thanks again
@@SickBoyTV Any chance the original Shinedown version of Season (also later recorded and released by One Less Reason) will see the light of day as well?
@@SickBoyTV when I was on fakebook, i discovered this band. Are you familiar with this band? If so, I would love some more info etc. Thanks in advance,
This song doesn't sound like a demo most likely because this was recorded in a studio and was scrapped, or recorded with home equipment, and they probably had better equipment than when they started out since they were on radio and such. A lot of demos are usually recorded at home and a lot of bands back then used 4 track cassette tapes rather than magnetic tape which had way lower fidelity than digital. By the way, if you didn't know already, magnetic tape has the highest audio fidelity, which is why a few audio engineers such as Steve Albini still use tape. Digital is how the majority of demos get recorded today, and even a good number of studio albums, especially if you have a good microphone, and it's easy to come by a high fidelity microphone for relatively cheap as well these days.
![Dreve - You Know Me [HQ] (Brent Smith from Shinedown)](/img/n.gif)
Really hope they end up releasing a rarities album. Some of the rare and unreleased songs deserve to see the light of day. This may be one of the best songs of theirs
Right!
This and “The Underground” would be great to finally have
That straight up would be dope.
@@timhahn7358 Persistence is also great
@@timhahn7358 I can't find The Underground
Who the fuck didn't Green light this for the album??? This is easily one of the best songs of theirs I've ever heard. The heavy mood, the insane vocals. Just how?!
I was watching a video by Rick Beato on it, and he said it was the FIRST song they wrote for this album and generally labels don’t take the first few songs you write as seriously as the ones you write later in the process. So they decided not to use it.
Which video? I love Rick Beato!
@@agitatedaligator5340 ua-cam.com/video/zUDNHi_uySY/v-deo.html idk how far into the video he says it but pretty sure it was near the beginning. It’s a great video taking about how he goes about making these demos and uses this song as an example!
Zack B thank you so much!
Just started digging deeper into shine down , so many great songs you don’t get to hear !
Jesus Christ 2019 y'all. We're still. Finding SD stuff. God loves us.
I love stumbling upon Shinedown songs I've never heard. This one is 🔥🔥
If this song was released, what album do ya think this song could be on?
@@futuramabender2078Leave a Whisper, Us and Them, Sound of Madness
This is the Shinedown I’ve been missing..how could they be sitting on absolute bangers like this without releasing any?
Right
The record wanted things that sound more like Alice in chains compared to this.
How did this not make an album!!!!
Someone in the comments said that it probably didn't have any radio appeal so the label took it off the album. Something along those lines
I can't see that Shinedown has songs that they never want released to radio on all albums. All songs that are explicit, they won't release as a single. They have at least 20 or more songs from each album that they didn't release they are in the vault.
Man, I love finding unreleased songs. It's the same feeling I get when I find a Linkin Park Underground Album at a friend's house; music by popular bands you like that are rarely heard.
This song is so good and Brent’s vocals are so powerful I love hearing Brent’s voice I hope that they release this song someday
Brent you were blessed with a great voice. Please more songs like this perhaps in the future
unofficial lyrics:
You know it starts with a look
And then it ends with a lie
I should plant my seeds deep
So then my roots won't die
Do you wish I was more like you
Self centered with no point of view
I need to give my self pride again
Take time to mend my feelings
Cause they never change
They always stay the same
I just can't blame it on my pride again
Take time again to mend my feelings
And Ill never change ill always be the same
Sometimes it seems like I'm closer
To maybe feeling alive
Some days I wish it was over
And thats when I stare in your eyes
Do you wish I was more like you
Self centered with no point of view
I need to give myself pride again
Take time to mend my feelings
Cause they never change
They always stay the same
I just can't blame it on my pride again
The time I spent believing
And ill never change
Ill always be the same
In this world
Its not so black and white
But its made out to be
Fateful but the design is to deceive
And know how they deceive
And we have our rights and wrongs
So don't pass judgment on me
Its your list but its just as long
If you dig deep yourself
I need to give myself pride again
Take time to mend my feelings
Cause they never change
They always stay the same
I just can't blame it on pride again
The time I spent believing
And ill never change
Ill always be the same
And ill never change
Ill always be the same
Can you see me
Can you feel me
I know you need me
Just believe me
Can you see me
Can you feel me
I know you need me
Just believe me
This is great....like the old SD I fell in love with!!!!
This is awesome 👏 it's BRILLIANT
Yes, I agree also Brilliant is a great song lol
@Graveyardbaby553 Ha! I see whatcha did there! BRILLIANT is a song off of ATTENTION ATTTENTION! 🤣
This is amazing, please guys, do aDemo, rare album, youve got some gems that have never gotten the chance to be heard, love this song
"this world is not so black and white". That part is from the demo for Trade Yourself In. That's REALLY different from what happened on the record. This was so good to hear.
This is incredible!! Wow!!! So good!! Should definitely be heard!
I miss the old Shinedown. 🥲
They have so many unreleased songs from every album. They record 20 to 30 songs & pick what goes on the album the rest go in what they call the vault. Hope they release them while Brent is alive. I'm sure they will release everything after he is gone but that is always sad.
no wonder why I love this my fav from you guys the first 3 albums and all these unreleased demos I have been finding.
Shinedown - Be The Same
(Verse 1):
You know it starts with a look
And then it ends with a lie
I should plant my seeds deep
So, then my roots won't die
(Pre-Chorus):
Do you wish I was more like you?
Self-centered with no point of view
(Chorus):
I need to give myself pride again
Take time to mend my feelings
Cause they never change
They always stay the same
I just can't blame it on pride again
The time I spend believing
That I’ll never change
I’ll always be the same
(Verse 2):
Sometimes it seems like I'm closer
To maybe feeling alive
Some days I wish it was over
And that’s when I stare in your eyes
(Pre-Chorus)
(Chorus)
(Bridge):
In this world
It’s not so black and white
But it is made out to be
It’s a metaphor
but the design is to deceive
And oh, how they deceived
And we have our rights and wrongs
So, don't pass judgment on me
It’s your list but it’s just as long
If you dig deep you’ll say…
(Chorus):
(Post-Bridge):
That I’ll never change
I’ll always be the same
[you know I’ll always be…]
(Out) (x2):
Can you see me
Can you feel me
I know you need me
Just believe me
I truly hope they release this song one day
if they would have released this with the album it would easily be my fav
Wow they sound heavier than most of their other stuff.
IKR, sadly I would say that’s why is wasn’t picked. The labels probably thought it wouldn’t have the “radio appeal” that other songs had.
They started out heavy!
@@daydreamersdmmiller3064 They were not "compromised" back in the earlier days. That's what made them stand out/special. They are still a great bunch of down to earth guys...God knows I've spent mucho $$ on Meet n Greets . But well worth it. Just love the more southern rock, grittiness, heavier sound they had. I also had wished way back they would have give Jasin Todd a "second Chance" if you get what I mean.
@@Lisa-mw5ve I did not say anything about Shinedown being "compromised." I said they started out heavier, because draxthedarkreaper made it sound like it was usual for Shinedown to play heavier music. Atention Atention was not as heavy as Us and Them, Leave a Whisper, or Sound of Maddnes. They have been my favorite band for 17 years. As a matter of fact was at their concert on February 2, 2022! If Planet Zero single is a good representation of the next album, I think they are giving a nod to their long time fans.
@@Lisa-mw5ve I am glad you made a comment on this song bc I had forgot about this one. Another amazing song.
Gritty vocals.
Great demo, guys
Damn ... I have found so much more of their music from the beginning and they have became ROCK LEGENDS , bc I know 20 years from now their music will still be a ritual to so many ..
Love this ❤️
love it
I NEED A DOWNLOAD LIMK PLEASE! MUST ADD THIS TA MY SHINEDOWN PLAYLIST!
Why am I just now hearing this
Never change always be the same❤do u wish I was more like you??❤
They need to do this song on the deep dive tour
Kind of has a Dreve vibe to it
Brent said he did use a lot of songs from Dreve just changed lyrics and music.
This is a cover version of One less reason’s “Be the same”. The same band that did the song “four seasons” ft. Brent Smith. 👍
It’s hard to call it a cover when Brent and Rick wrote the song in Rick’s studio... They may have let One Less Reason have it later on, but it was written to be on Shinedown’s 3rd album.
@@SickBoyTV oh right, sorry i didnt know. thanks for telling me
If anything I would say that One Less Reason covered Shinedown as their song came out a year or two later.
let us just say that both Shinedown and One less reason did a great job singing this song
Apparently there were issues with One Less Reason stealing vocal tracks and demos is what Zach said. He said about suing them but I don't think Brent ever pursued the matter I never heard anything.
So I have a few questions hopefully you can answer. I was wondering who's on guitar in this session? What amp head and mic's they were using if you know anything about the signal chain that would be great! Thanks.
I’m unsure of the equipment used, but my guy Rick Beato has a UA-cam channel and would be able to address these if he hasn’t already in one of his videos.
@@SickBoyTV yeah that makes sense being that he worked on all of that early shinedown stuff. Thanks man! Didn't realise this was from his vault. Thanks again
FUCKING BADASS
Where'd you find this?
The producer who co-wrote it with Brent found it on an old hard drive.
@@SickBoyTV Neato. How'd you get your hands on it?
Rick (the producer/co-writer) released it the other day
@@SickBoyTV Any chance the original Shinedown version of Season (also later recorded and released by One Less Reason) will see the light of day as well?
Tim Hanson Not for sure, do you know where it was recorded?
Is the band "One Less Reason" from Tennessee?
Yea Jackson
@@SickBoyTV when I was on fakebook, i discovered this band. Are you familiar with this band? If so, I would love some more info etc. Thanks in advance,
Any idea on the name of the song?
Be the Same
It says so right on the title....
do you have anymore unteleased songs?
unreleased*
Not by Shinedown
Did you hear Brent's stuff from his 1st band Dreve? Just put that in UA-cam the songs will come up.
This doesn’t sound like a demo at all.
This song doesn't sound like a demo most likely because this was recorded in a studio and was scrapped, or recorded with home equipment, and they probably had better equipment than when they started out since they were on radio and such. A lot of demos are usually recorded at home and a lot of bands back then used 4 track cassette tapes rather than magnetic tape which had way lower fidelity than digital. By the way, if you didn't know already, magnetic tape has the highest audio fidelity, which is why a few audio engineers such as Steve Albini still use tape. Digital is how the majority of demos get recorded today, and even a good number of studio albums, especially if you have a good microphone, and it's easy to come by a high fidelity microphone for relatively cheap as well these days.
Brent has said that there demos are recorded just like the studio version incase they want to release the song.
This song definitely isn’t one of their best. I can see why it didn’t make any of their albums. 👎🏻