The Bonneville Salt Flats: Decline of the Fastest Place on Earth
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3:30 jededahia Springfield from the simpsons
I think he gets up every day and shits advertisements.
The Bonneville racers have been some of the most ardent advocates of preserving the salt flats.
I love the salt flats I live in Salt Lake City people are always shooting films there. One word of advice, don't wear loose pants or shorts, the flats is like a big mirror for the sun the light refelcts so well and I have gotten my ass sunburnt a few times.
So . . .Don't wear anything on your bum instead? 🤔😳
@@BA-gn3qb nah maybe a bit poorly worded. Wear tight pants or leggings so your skins is covered fully. Though I have seen many running nude and happy so it’s an option
@@juliafreij6220 - Ah. Ok. I see you edited your original comment too.
Going full nude wouldn't be an option for me either. An all over tan would be an all over burn very quickly on the salt flats.
Aaaaaand THIS discussion is why I always check the comments.
@@juliafreij6220 A big thumbs up for tight pants.
Ancient Lake Bonneville did not simply dry up, but breached a weak gravel bar serving as a natural dike on the northern shore, resulting in a catastrophic flood. The floodwaters created the spectacular Snake River Canyon on the southern boarder of Idaho. The once huge Lake Bonneville ended up as the relatively tiny Great Salt Lake and Salt Flats. There are some great UA-cam videos on this.
Man, the Salt Flats are wonderful. I live in Salt Lake County and I remember my dad driving by them whenever he'd take us to Wendover. It wasn't until I started driving that I would stop by to look at them. I loved looking at them after the rain. It's so beautiful.
I really want them to survive.
The only time I have ever seen them is while it was all rainy and cloudy out, so while I didn't get the mountain-view background, I did get to see the flats while they looked like a giant mirror!
I cam here to say pretty much the same thing. I drive by all the time on my way to Wendover.
not been to utah in well over a decade but went there many times from Cali in the 80-00's.....they went from beautiful white to an ugly grey the last time i went about 15 years ago
@@Iroxinping I have been going there since the late 1980s and every year it gets worse and worse from leach mining.
Am I the only one unable to read wendover without thinking wendigo?
"The Worlds Fastest Indian" best movie ever featuring Anthony Hopkins as Burt Monroe. Record holder at the flats.
So the lesson is, if anyone named "Donner" asks if you want to join an expedition, run don't walk
With his accent, I keep hearing him say, "The Donna Reed party." That would actually have been a very nice kind of party.
I grew up in a small town, Magna, and we enjoyed watching Land Speed Trials. I saw Craig Breedlove break the world's record!
Salt Lake City native here. I used to go out there all the time to watch the high-powered model rocket clubs compete! 🚀
Can we have a Geographics on the Nurburgring?
And then a video of Simon doing a lap around the Nordschleife.
Simon you should do this, it’s quite old, survived wars, and has a fascinating history.
As long as we get a list of the cars it's ruined
@@Thumbsupurbum “wow there is a lot of corners on this track” - Simon *mid Lap
*_"Bomb it!"_*
-James May
I kept hearing "The Donna Reed Party." Because I'm old.
Thanks Now that's what I'm going to hear.
Little known fact: People often associate Donna Reed with cannibalism.
@@TheDoppelgangster But that's only because she gave so many dinner parties.
It's very different to the Doner Kebab party.
Same here. I've watched a few documentaries on them and don't recall ever hearing the Donner Party referred to as the Donner-Reed Part. I figured it was just his accent that made me hear 'Donna,' but the 'Reed' part threw me off and I had to look it up.
Forrest Gump never shot anywhere near the flats! That scene was shot on a famous highway in Monument Valley, which is on the other side of the state. Oh God... I’ve become THAT guy.... oh sweet Jesus, why??
Excellent video. Carry on. I have liked and subbed.
Literally at the other end of the state!
Every so often we're all that guy, as long as we're not THAT that guy though
I mean it is a video presenting itself as factual. They should be more consistent
@@drumboarder1 amos?
I don’t know if it’s because he’s putting out so much stuff so often, or laziness or both.
But I’ve started to notice more and more misinformation and errors over the last year.
If he has fact checkers they need to do a better job, or he needs to take more time putting these out.
You should start an "Engineering Disasters" channel. The Salton Sea would be the perfect first episode.
@JAG "was forced to leave it's channel by the inadvertent actions of men." Sounds engineered to me. The Salton Sea was the result of an engineering disaster.
“The Worlds Fastest Indian” is a great motorcycle movie shot there.
Definitely a “must watch” for any 2 wheel fan
ItsMeJon any gearhead who thinks he’s exhausted everything there is in the way of “car movies” at that.
That's a great movie.
That movie sucked, big time.
Donkey Slayer oh wow, I found the one guy that doesn’t like the movie. Congrats.
The world's fastest Indian.
Burt Munro goes to the salt flats with his Indian motorcycle and wins a record in 69.
It's a true New Zealand story.
I know him through my grandfather being an engineer/WW1 despatch rider and a classic bike restoration expert.
Beautiful film.
I love the salt flats and the entire area out there. Fun fact, we also have an amateur rocketry event called "Hellfire" on the flats. It's a pretty fun weekend in August.
I've been to that event a buncha times!
Been out there a handful of times!
1:40 - Chapter 1 - Formation
2:55 - Chapter 2 - History
5:35 - Chapter 3 - The majestic & dangerous canals
6:40 - Mid roll ads
7:45 - Chapter 4 - Shooting location
8:40 - Chapter 5 - A favorite tourist local
10:30 - Chapter 6 - The silver island mountains
12:05 - Chapter 7 - Environnemental troubles
15:40 - Chapter 8 - End of an era
"Do you guys think the salt flats might be damaged by the mining companies literally digging up dozens of square miles the ground and shipping it off?"
"No, it must be those cars that drive on it. Those tire tracks are worse."
Its neither of those if we can somehow shoehorn the cause as climate change! 🤣
Lol. Nobody is digging up or around the flats. Duh. Kind of funny you arse about this particular mineral extraction, while banging away to do so on something built from carbon/mineral based technology. So woke.
@@HELLRZR-nm3vv It literally takes 20 seconds to look on Google maps and find excavation equipment on the salt flats. Go troll someone else.
It’s disappearing because of the canals you can’t take the natural water flow that evaporated and leaves salt behind, and think you won’t change the environment... humans
@@cybernedlytedlythewise7499 Uh, where do you live in general? Have you ever been close enough to Bonneville to ever view a Red Hat event? Or an incredible sunset literally reflected back at you from the whole of the planet it seems? Just how did you get to be an expert on every environment 'backyard'? In our next good cold snap or mini-glacial. Nobody would remember humans even touched it in a season or two. You and other human business are not nearly as important as you think to this planet. 98% of species that have ever occurred on the Earth are already extinct. We've been here about 2 minutes on a 24 hour Earth time clock. We're just the current top of the evolved keystone species occurring bro. Relax.
Sad to see the decline of the salt flats. I remember watching "The World's Fastest Indian" and being really interested in the whole racing scene there. Always comes down to mismanagement doesn't it?
I hope they can restore it. I'm a huge gearhead, and I had no idea the Flats were in such bad shape...
The entire state is mismanaged. If you head just a little bit further southwest from the BSF, you can experience the joy of mutated deer and rabbits at Duway Proving Grounds, and visit the senic nuclar waste dumping grounds thanks to the generous contribution of Energy Solutions Corp. If that's not thrilling enough, then Kennecott Mining's industrial relic as you head towards Tooele and the old Topaz Internment Camp are a thrilling end to the day. Be sure to gtab an N95 mask for your trip back to SLC so you can actually breath the air though - what they call an 'inversion' is actually air pollution so terrible that it sometimes outpaces Shanghai in how thick it is. I don't misd that place.
@Jerry Davis - You mean private industrial contractors maximizing profit.
@@drboze6781 aka government... They have their hand in the cookie jar.
Lake Bonneville did not just evaporate away.. It actually overtopped an earthen barrier in Idaho. And that pretty much drained the lake. I live in a valley in Idaho that the Bonneville flood rushed through.
Is the treasure valley caused by this?
I don't know much about Idaho, I am from Europe, but I think you are wrong. Or at least both things had to happen, overtopping don't explain forming of salt flats. To form salt crust that thick, there had to be a huge amount of water which evaporated.
@@OslikusPrime Lake Bonneville was in a basin that had no output. The overflow broke a natural dam in what is now Red Rock pass but that isn't the reason it dried up. It was still 4700 feet deep after that. The climate getting dryer made the evaporation out pace the amount of water going into it.
@@garretth8224 Yes, that is what I was thinking. I just wanted to say, that overtopping or not, it has nothing to do with forming of salt deposits.
That place should be called the Bonnevilliage
The Boys of Bonneville is a truly amazing movie about how one man created much, if not most, of the prestige of the salt flats!
Maaaan, imagine how much soup you could make with that
i like the way you think
That's at least like 3 or 4 good soups right there.
Carmelize some onions and add some croutons and cheese and that would be delicious french onion soup!
At least 2 cans of campbells chicken noodle
🤤
I’m a truck driver and I love crossing the salt flats doesn’t matter what kind of year in fact I will be crossing over today on my way toSioux Falls South Dakota it is beautiful majestic deadly
People and Scientists: Please government, we need your help
Government: Nope, siding with the corporations
BIG SHOCKER
BLM makes good money off of it. Why would they care?
After all the science says it's just climate change
Never EVER ask the government for help. They make things worse... always
I'm currently building a land speed racer with the goal of setting a record as a Fiat powered Fiat. I'm not one of the big guys with a mere 1.4l engine and my class not allowing streamlining, so I'll be on the short course, but the goal is to beat the last X1/9 who ran and they had a crazier engine and were streamlined. My goal is 169mph, so I'll be on the short course which should hopefully still be around in a year and a half.
What's the fastest you've even been in a vehicle on land? I've been to around 130 in a street rod, but the driver immediately let off the throttle at that point. I was shaking from the adrenalin and my eyes were watering ftom the nitrous fumes, but it was exhilarating! I can't imagine what 160+mph would feel like but id like to find out! Good luck on your mission!!
Yeah well im going for the land speed record of the fastest bmx with a playing card in the spokes.
Yeah ha, front and back wheel !
@@ticopunkerz I've done 120 in a modified Fiat 500 Abarth...on snow tires. Had more to give but 120 on studded snows is skeeeetchy so I pulled back. And now I want go faster in an even smaller car, but with extensive safety modifications and on appropriate rubber. I wouldn't do it of I felt it was too unsafe. The theoretical top speed of the car will be 177, but that's very unlikely on salt.
@@TinyScorpion44 You are certifiable...a certifiable badass that is!! The car I was in was a 1975 Chevy Monza. I don't think I've even seen one since, esp not one with a high hp racing engine!
@@joe18425 Never give up on your dreams!!!
For Trivia Buffs: Survivors of the Donner Reed party went on to star in "It's a Wonderful Life", and later have a long runnng TV. Show.
I visited the salt flats in February 1981. Even back then, the salt flats were decaying. People were pretty clear at the time that the decline was due to the mining of thousands of tons of salt every year (Ya think?) There were places at the side of I 80 where I could see that vehicles had gone off the road and nearly buried themselves. The craters must have been up to 4 feet (1.2 meters) deep. The guy that was with me took a picture of me running up the speedway. He even put it out of focus so that it looked like I was blurred with speed. Anyway, it was a beautiful place, full of history. I hope that greed does not prevail and the powers that be will finally decide to preserve or even restore it.
The powers that be (BLM, U.S. government) are making money off the mining.
Simon failed to mention the curvature of the earth can be seen at Bonneville.
You mean the FLATness of the earth and where it falls off into space?
@@suzykendallosborne haha didn’t know the earth was flat ya goon
@@suzykendallosborne yea we really gotta get the word out my sweet sweet granny sadly fell off the side of the earth last year just stepped right off the side tried to tell her it wasnt round she just wouldn't listen RIP granny she was only 127 yrs young had her whole life in front of her, ik your looking down now saying damn it really is flat 💔 (a single tear rolls down my cheek) damn u flat earth and all those misleading round globes in classrooms they are truly the most evil type of propaganda.
@@jleeblackmon5340 I wish more people knew about this. I rolled out of bed the other night, nearly fell of the edge of the earth. 😱 Terrifying experience.
@@jleeblackmon5340 I’m sorry that happened and I prey for the loss to your fambly. Let’s try to get the word out so more people don’t have to suffer such loss and tradgedy! RIP granny!
I took my 11 year old son to see the salt flats a month ago during his fall school break. Although I have lived in the SLC area for over 20 years, I had never before been there. It was so beautiful and serenely quiet! It would be a tragedy if a concerted effort was not made to preserve at least a large part of the flats for future generations.
04:19 The Donner party suffered heavy losses ... Jesus, Simon - that's an understatement
@JAG Hey dude, Simon even had a helpful subtitle underneath... You can read, yes? I only ask because the reading and comprehension skills of anyone under 30 are usually poor at best.
@@maconp1119 Boomer humor
@@belland_dog8235 its not even that, it was just unnecessary lmao
I have lived next to El Mirage dry lake bed most of my life used to be able to go out there anytime you wanted it was fun we used to camp out there a lot. But because people don’t listen and drive on it while the lake is wet it has messed up and made the lake much smaller so the government closed it off
It's humorous to me when you say "Donner-Reed Party" as I hear "Donna Reed party" which would be a completely different experience. :)
You can't be tired driving over the salt flats, you will fall asleep since it's just flat land for miles, no trees, turns, or hills to keep your attention.
thats why they put black markers during speed days sat nav ok just a boring white picture.
"Hey man, wanna go on a trip to the Bonneville Salt Flats? Some MAD archery goin on"
Interesting fact is that those canals are still owned by a company, wouldn't have thought that.
Also all your videos are amazing! Thanks to you and your team for creating them
these saltplans remind me of the uyuni one in bolivia, which makes me reiterate my suggestion of a Tiahuanaco episode
I went there a couple years ago. it’s gorgeous and you can see the curvature of the earth. well worth the long drive
Utah is my home, it’s sad that the salt flats have decline so much.
The Prices for restoring such small amounts of salt lake are so astronomical.
Restore it to what? Adry lake bed?
If I've learned anything in my 26 years, Corporations and Industry is never at fault.
Your infant, childhood, and early teen years have been very informative.
@Gmail X name something bad a corporation has done, minus pharmaceutical, oil, car, toy, fast food, electronics, video game, and clothing, corporations which don't count.
@@CrypidLore I thought it was satire at first but you made me dismiss that as a possibility.
@@garretth8224 good, because corporations are clearly not evil pieces of garbage that only care about profit. They care about the betterment of the world, and 100% wouldn't burn down an orphanage for money.
@@CrypidLore 🤣😂🤣😂👍
The question shouldn't be what caused the problem, instead, what can be done to save the salt flats. Evidently there's a lot more that needs to be done than what is happening now. Imo, the salt flats need to be off limits to motorized vehicles until such time as their damaging effects can be measured.
That is logical let's hope it will happen.
Well, there is usually several issues at once, when you are facing a problem. And you can't usualy say, whan can be done to solve the problem, if you don't know what caused it. Trying to solve problem without in depth knowledge is a good recepy for scaling problem up into catastrophe.
But yes, stop ongoing activities, like mining AND racing should be obvious start, there is nothing to think about that.
@@OslikusPrime All good points, and granted I know very little about what's going on there so I shouldn't have commented on it. I'm glad that scientists have identified that a problem exists so at least there's hope of finding a solution. ✌
yes, save the salt
Thats A lot of salt 🤯
I'll donate my sweat to help keep the salt level up.
Well yeah. Poisoning the environment is bad no matter where its done.
Andrew Gates .... Nice Power Wagon sittin on the ground, it looks good bro...
@@garretth8224 "poisoning the environment"
What are you talking about? How is losing salt "poisoning the environment" ?
Bonneville featured someone going supersonic in 1997. Still no takers to that record.
Thrust SSC broke the land speed record in the Black Rock desert not Bonneville
@@sawspitfire422 Indeed. My bad.
@@ABrit-bt6ce That must be a Road Runner. They actually discovered dopler effect thanks to his "beep beep". Problem is, that he kept running and did not return for qualification run. So his record was not recognized.
I suggest you look up the new record attempt due at Hakskeenpan in South Africa.
This is wild, I live in the town next to the salt flats. I worked at the truck stop next to flats that all the racers used for 4 years, Bonneville Spped Week was a huge deal back then.
Well done commentary on the balance between land management, recreation, industry and nature itself. One lesson I learned early is stay away from a dry lake when it’s wet! Oh and I believe you meant “tourist locale.”
it's the cars racing on it 3 times a year that is degrading the area...NOT THE CONSTANT MINING ......🤷♂️🤦♂️
Right…..made sure to throw climate change in there too. After just saying wagon wheel marks were still there from the 1800’s🙄.
Those canals are absolutely beautiful.
I go through there at least 2-3x a month. The enjoyable part is when after rain people get stuck driving out there.
The Salt Flats were also a filming location for the BBC documentary Allosaurus: A Walking With Dinosaurs special. They’re used in the scene where a pack of Allosaurus hunt a herd of Diplodocus.
I lived in Utah most of my life, the Salt flats are one of many amazing places in that state to see.
Zion too
11:38 "Despite popular belief, the Fremont Period is not named after the explorer John C. Fremont, but rather after the Fremont River"...except that the river was named after the man.
Racers: We want to preserve the salt flat
Scientists: You should probably stop driving on it then
Racers: No
😂🤣😂🤣😂
It would be awesome to see a video on the Valley of Kings, you really peaked my interest with the recent video on Biographics about Akhenaten! Thanks for all the great content and keep blazing it up!
Until the salt flats became THE place to set the land speed record, several record were set on the beach in daytona beach florida, a name very recognizable to any hard core racing fan especially nascar fans
I’ve swam in the canals, definitely won’t be going back again to do it. But a cool place and it’s really fun!
Happy Guy Fawkes Day Simon Whistler!
Given that half the US population believe that climate change is fake, the salt flats will definitely continue to decline even if mining and racing were stopped today
As a gear head and racing fan I've always wanted to go and race or even just watch at Bonneville. Its just iconic. But I've also always wanted to go as an outdoorsman and just appreciate it.
The Salt Flats were deposited and maintained by annual flooding and evaporation, which deposited the minerals contained in the flood waters.
Over the past 5 to 10 years, a combination of drought in the Great Basin and diversion and consumption of waters before water can reach the Great Salt Lake is causing the water table to drop.
For example, in just 1987 the Salt LakeCity was in danger of being flooded. Governor Rampton authorized the purchase and installation of huge pumps to pump water out of the Salt Lake Basin into adjacent basins to the west.
Now, one can nearly walk across the near dry lake bed of Great Salt Lake to Antelope Island.
The extraction of minersls from the lake waters has a minimal impact, as Dr Bowen states.
Brilliant channel. Thanks for sharing...
"Things should be fixed" is human-speak for "THEY shoulpd fix it, imma do what I always did."
I wanna see this place in person
Its really cool. Highly recommend
I really recommend it. Especially after the rain. It's beautiful.
You keep saying “racing” but it’s only ever been Land Speed record attempts. Racing implies there being at least 2 cars competing directly against one another and that’s not what happens there.
I think you have a video in your ads
Could you do a story on Lake Gairdner salt flats, South Australia? It's our Aussie version of Bonneville. Size 99 miles by 30 miles. Up to 3' 11" thick. Not mined. Lower Altitude. Raced on annually. Little brother to the Bonneville.
I really like how Simon researches his sponsors and seems to enjoy the merchandise and services they offer. He sincerely supports them as they support him. Way better than Creators who accept any Sponsor that offers them money. And I dd get Nord VPN because of Simon's suggestion, but much as I love the idea of Duriosity Stream, I simply have little time for such a service; I even canceled Netflixs because I wanted maybe one movie a month, if that often. I do suggest it to friends, especially those with children and teens to educate and entertain.
Watching people collect arrows couldn't be any worse than watching baseball.
Grandpa Benjamin found places that would later describe much of the family's attitude. Thanks Grove Karl Gilbert!
I learned a great deal about this that I never knew before, and I'm a local resident. Thank you for what you shared, great video.
Great video, well covered!
Thank you for sharing your experience with us all
Fascinating. And sad! I didn't realize they were going. Thanks as always for an informative video.
My parents always meant to take me out there when I visited them in Utah, but who knows when I'll be able to do that again. And it's quite a long drive out there from their side of the Salt Lake.
Not sure if you know this but Lake Bonneville is a story in itself. Look up the Bonneville Flood. While you're at it also look up the Missoula Floods that happened around the same time and place. They are both mind-boggling natural events.
Yeah, but the Fremont River was named for John Fremont, so by the transitive property...
Please do one on the "Cueva de los Tayos" and all the claims surrounding the subject.
you know, there maybe a pair of solutions here. desalination has a problem with its waste output being so salty that it kills everything it touches when they dump it in the oceans, perhaps they should dump it in the salt flats instead which would help potentially with the salt layer and not kill the basis of ocean food systems. at the very least it is a thought to consider.
Glad to say I was able to visit a few years ago. It was March and there was standing water so I did not drive on it. Awesome place.
I’m from Salt Lake City. First, this land is breath taking. Second, it’s commonly understood that the deserts are very sensitive to human contact, and any contact of any degree will change it.
I drove on the Salt Flats two years ago.
A unique and quite remote spot. Wendover is close, but itself remote. All Utah mountains are worth a look see from afar and on skis. Give them a look at your next opportunity.
My favorite movie filmed on the Bonneville Salt Flats, is "The World's Fastest Indian, with Sir Anthony Hopkins.
It took me a 5-hours to get the salt off my small hatchback after rallying around for an hour or so there, last September... it filled a Home Depot bucket.
DID YOU TAKE IT BACK
just saying.
I'd like to see a Geographics on:
Lake Bonneville
Skull Valley
The Oquirrh Mountains
While we're talking about the features of the Great Basin
Recommending the film "The Fastest Indian" regarding the flats.
How may channels does this guy have? Not complaining, just surprised to see him in yet another channel.
Yeah boy a sight to see it is especially around may when a layer of water reflects the mountains
You should do a Biographics video on the Donnner party
Very good video
Ebbs and flows... Weather man. It changes.
with the accuracy of a weather man anything can happen
I drove through the Salt flats on my move from the west coast to the east coast of America. It was actually really cool.
Did you see the tennis ball tree?
Hey! You didn't mention Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension!
At 3:45 of the video, the Native Americans pictured are Ute The picture was taken near Durango, Colorado.
in 1995 they held the snail racing world championship on the salt flats. It was a disaster!
Today the salt flats are under threat from the salt mining in the area. We've been in a drought for over a year, the great salt lake is at an all time low. We'll see what comes of the Wasatch front.
The Studebaker Avanti was tested there and it broke TWENTY-NINE records and became the fastest production car on the planet in 1963 reaching a top speed of 178 but was capable of hitting 200 mph and this was nearly 60 years ago.
Thank you for the Curiosity Stream pitch but watching your various videos Simon, leaves me little time to be more curious!
I just drove through there last week and there's this weird piece of modern art sticking up on the side of the road and I can't figure out for the life of me what it's supposed to be
This guy should have been a salesman
Still less salty than gaming online