Y’all need to add more perspective to the Kyrie conversation. It’s so one sided at this point. All you guys do is call him selfish and a bad team mate and never offer insight into his reasoning and how there are man (non-famous) people dealing with similar situations to him. They just aren’t making millions a year
@@Zaq-san I think they are calling him selfish from a teammate standpoint. U have to be on accord to win championships. Kyrie is too much of a me first guy to be all in at this point I believe is what most are saying but he has a track record to show he’s a selfish player so that’s evident to them
@@31bigfree I get for his past situations but since he came to the nets he’s been handling that better because he wanted to be on the nets. Also I would agree if when he signed with the nets, mandates were a thing, but they weren’t. He had no idea the state of NY was going to force him to get a shot that he doesn’t agree with/feel certain about, and that shouldn’t make him selfish for trying to make the best of the situation while also respecting himself and his body. Like I get that point but I feel like the side I just mentioned is NEVER discussed on this show; just feels like constant Kyrie bashing
Shannon brings humor and logic to almost every time he really is talented at his job ... Give that man a bigger bag to stay because he provides great clarify to the audience
You do realize that they only played 16 games together in all these games right? They are 13-3 when playing together. So what are you even laughing about?
You can’t make this up 🤦🏽♂️ kyrie has messed up every TEAM he’s ever been on in pursuit of something selfish, makes sense there’s no I in team but one in Kyrie
You only need 2 super stars to lead a team. Kryie is just a bonus. The question is does Harden think Joel is a better player than KD? Because he switched to a 2 super star team.
Can you blame Harden? He didn’t sign up to play with part-time Kyrie, that issue impacts the team, whether you think Kyrie is in the right or not. That being said, the pressure is on James to make it work in Philly.
Yes I can blame him. He knew who Kyrie was when he joined the team. He's a loose cannon. Him not taking a mandated vaccine or rejecting some other COVID related restrictions was entirely predictable.
I've always enjoyed Shannon's ability to talk from a players viewpoint. Not just ex player that knows how tiring a game is but how there are so many mental aspects to sports. Reminds me of Barkley.
They lost Curry & Drummond. They literally lost the best shooter and rebounder on the team of course they gonna be dramatically worse without Harden on the floor use context.
Says James Harden as the Nets being on a 11th game losing streak before the trade when they got Curry and Drummond in the trade, and Kyrie only playing the road “part time”.
Say what you want about bron but we should be giving more kudos to him in how he delivered 3 championships in 3 entirely different situations. It shows his willingness to adapt and lead. No other player in history has done that
@@quantrelknows Ah yes, the winning formula: - Leave your previous team in a bad state after you forced bad signings and trades - Sign with a team that had potential or plans of becoming a superteam - Force them to listen what you think are your needs - Repeat
KD underestimated what great character means. He benefitted from some of the best team players in the league in Golden state and thought he was the reason they were succeeding. No, they were good before you and they'll be good without you. KD lacks championship character and therefore him leading a super team will never work.
Agreed! I think the reason why things soured in GS is because KD for whatever reason just can’t seem to be or stay happy. Steph literally was the ultimate team player and KD felt his kindness came with some type of agenda when Steph was just being Steph.
And to your BS point that Golden State didn’t need him, they definitely did because they haven’t beaten a healthy team in the finals without him. So there’s that
What is better winning or losing an NBA Finals? I’m sure winning right ... Would the Cavs beat the Warriors in 2015 with Kyrie and Kevin Love? 2016 proved it YES! GS feared LeBron so much they beg KD because he’s the only player at that time comparable to LeBron he always been #2. GS couldn’t handle LeBron and Kyrie and they knew it. KD is why they won 2 more. Toronto Raptors is another team that proved they’re beatable.
@@1anth they also haven’t been healthy since then. Face it kd is extremely gifted player but leader of championship team he is not when has This happened???
@@1anth A generational talent combined with a leader beats a generational talent without a leader. It doesn't have to be an either/or. Ideally you have both aspects covered in your team.
@@1anth I think he meant to win championships and games, you need a guy that's a leader as well. Being good is not good enough to win it all. You need a mix of role players and sub stars to finish the job, combined with a clear leader.
Okc should have never let James Harden go, if they kept Westbrook, Harden, KD, and Ibaka together then they were potentially winning multiple championships
But will Harden be the player he is today in OKC?? Would Russ be the TD machine back then compare to now. We will never know I know Harden and Russ probably wouldn’t be the player they are now - well Russ was at his best with OKC BUT he was the main guy.
Shannon thinking people should be taking a experimental vaccinology injection to work or bounce a ball or WHATEVER, shows how much of a meathead and how much of a incompetent imbecile he is.
I like how Middleton is somehow the closer on the bucks. Yet russ hit more game winning/tying shots than KD on the thunder yet somehow russ wasn’t the closer there
@@TheOwlMansReal Shannon is just throwing it back at Skip for always contradicting himself. He always says something about Bron but when it happens to another player, he looks dumb
It's the big storyline from the trade deadline. The rest of the year is going to be a debate about who won the trade. Not like there's much else for them to talk about. There's only so many "Lakers are trash" segments you can do before people start tuning out.
It sure did! Harden wanted to win but Kyrie don't wanna take the shot. Harden felt like Kyrie don't care enough to win for Harden and Harden checked out. You can see this for months ahead
Harden wanted a cupcake ring and when things started getting a little uncomfortable and people began expecting him to lead the team he quit on the them.
@@FaithfulFumoFan23 what do you mean?... who looked at him to lead? Everyone was looking at KD leading. That’s not a fair take on Harden. You say cupcake ring like itd be easy, NEWS FLASH; just because you have an abundance of good players doesn’t mean you’re gonna win a championship. Let’s look at the Lakers, they might now even make the playoffs this year! So let’s not act like it’s easy to win a ring here.
@Cartwill Cartwill Nice try but unfortunately Kyrie did cause this. If he didnt want to be Vaccinated thats his choice. The state of NY also had a choice to let him play or not being unvaccinated and they chose not.
Imagine if LeBron had a Prime Harden and a Prime Kyrie at the same time and couldn't even MAKE it to the Finals, how would Skip react. But "the best player on the planet" can't make it work🤔🤔🤔🤔
KD never had Prime Harden in the playoffs. He was injured. He didn’t have prime Kyrie either. He got injured in the playoffs. We all saw what happened to Lebron when Kyrie was hurt.
@@mg19cal Of course he did. No one ever blames LeBron for losing that Finals, as a matter of fact he gets a lot of credit for taking that team to 6 games vs Warriors
When Harden was talking about being with a team that wants to win, he was throwing shade at Kyrie. Kyrie is the one that’s holding back the team by first not playing any games, and then only playing half. KD is tired of both of them though, let’s be honest.
A part time Kyrie would’ve been more helpful from the start of the season than a full time Harden because if you’ve at least watched 10 Brooklyn Nets games this season Harden was holding the team back & would cost us games dude to poor play KD was carry Harden
What a coincidence that all of Durants ex teammates go years without talking to him or mentioning him before making amends. From Westbrook calling him cupcake and a snake, to draymond calling him a B and saying the Warriors didnt even need him to his face. People forgive and move on eventually but that doesnt change the pattern and the common denominator
Phil Jackson, Steve Kerr, Doc Rivers and Pat Riley/Eric Spolstra are the only men that could manage so many egos it’s hard out here for these coaches when you have so many superstar egos on one squad
This man, with a straight face, just said he was tough on Bosh because everybody was tough on him plus he was an easy target. Wtf is that? If that doesn’t tell you everything you need to know about Skip…🤦🏾
Bro I’m so with you! People don’t realize the NBA has basically told the Nets they can’t pay the fines for Kyrie to play home games. It’s actually written into the mandate that after 5 games the team is charged 5K for each game a non-vaccinated player plays in NY. They could literally charge that to Kyrie and I’m sure he’d accept. But the NBA has basically said no to that at this point. Sucks to be in NY/CA rn if you ask me 🤷🏼♂️
@@jays4113 NY Mandate did this!! Was looking forward to seeing more of the The Big 3, that’s all! Hopefully, it works out for Nets! Philly seems to be off to a great start since JH arrived 😂
Thank you...Kyrie don't like the fact that KD and Harden are better than him. He could not coexist with Lebron after even winning a title. Kyrie could not play with snipers in Boston.
💯this was always the plan, maybe a ring on the way, but it didn’t happen . Now he gotta show up and show out or else the media bout to throw him to the wolves.
What Are The Winning Tangibles Of KD? He Proved Nothing. He Blew A 3-1 Lead To The Warriors Team He Later Joined. He’s Great, But He’s Not The Best Winner Either.
That may be true but of the 3 of them KD has shown just as recently as last year in the playoffs that he showed he could carry a team with that performance vs the Bucks.
The deal is Harden was waiting for his opportunity to reunite with the GM of Philly. Playoff time last year, what did he do ? don't blame KI or KD; blame James for his lack of being a team player. Yeah, his stats always look good in the regular season but go to his playoff stats because these are the games that define you...
Nets actually created really good team! Simmons don’t need to shoot now just defend and pass. Kyrie and KD will shoot, Curry is great pickup aswell Drummond defensively. They can run line up with Simmons,Kyrie,Kd no problem. I think Nets have bigger chance to win now that with Harden
Bro every time that day “sacrifice” when talking about Kyrie getting the shot it makes me puke. Sacrifice in basketball is changing your role/minutes or something. Or injecting something into yourself that is super uncertain and flat out has a sketchy narrative all around it
The rhetoric being used by the media is disturbing. He's "letting his team down" by exercising his right to do what he wants has a grown man when it comes to his medical decisions? He needs to "sacrifice" for the "greater good" hmmm we've heard that line before plenty of times haven't we?
Shannon, Lebron did create a superteam and it already imploded, its the current Lakers team. Thats a superteam thats imploded already and doesn't work. Stop dancing around, because you know its a superteam done wrong. But Lebron has alot to blame, because he have a vote to sign these players.
@@KingGregory27 Ok. So the Lakers have been hurt all season. But I guarantee you, you’re 1 of the guys who’ll laugh if they don’t make the playoffs….So no excuses my G
@@krelilkre i’m a lebron fan 🤣 Will be upset if they miss the playoffs for sure. I think you could blame the russ trade on bron, but not his play. If anyone does that, I’d give them the same reasoning I’m giving you. I ain’t biased bruh. Logic always win 🤌🏽
Skip, if you're asking "how did KD put this team together?", I have to ask you the same: how did LeBron put his team together? You've got the entire LeBron Hate-Train spreading misinformation about that whole operation, but you & everyone else brushes what KD did under the rug. This is the third superteam he has been a part of; James Harden, Russ, KD, then Curry, Draymond, Klay, & KD, then James Harden, Kyrie, and KD. But, ya'll make excuses for him and still trash LeBron & call him the GM. 😂😂😂. Bunch of jokes.
What"superteam"has Kd played on? This is the first team he's been on where he & another player r proven winners, even though they"piggybacked"! LeBron had a plan in LA & it hasn't worked out like Kd's hasn't either! I believe Skip is being condescending a/b Kd, he had a public back & forth w/him. He'll ride him if he finishes w/just those GS🏆's..... I believe!!
The young and not yet in prime Thunder were not a superteam nor can you "blame" Durant for being a part of that team. They were put together organically and Harden was barely a 6th man for that team. Not to mention that Harden was traded immediately after they made the 2012 finals. That was not a superteam. A superteam in the LeBron sense that gets criticized is when a superstar actively recruits other stars (who are still close to their prime) so that they can play together and dominate the NBA. LeBron built a superteam in Miami. He attempted to build one in the second Cleveland go around. And now he's done the same thing in LA with AD and Westbrook. Durant joining the Warriors turned them into a superteam. They weren't one before. They were just a very good team with great chemistry and one transcendent star. And so the Brooklyn experiment is the only time that Durant has attempted to put together a LeBron James-esque superteam.
@@megavolt67 Kd joining the dubs made them a"superteam"🤔how what had he won or proven to that point? MIA a"superteam"🤔, the only proven winner was d-wade to the point of them joining together & the second go 'round in CLE w/Kyrie & love? Not even close w/this LA team he's on.....u have an interesting view on"superteams"!
KD was the one who wanted more ISOs even back at GSW. Harden sacrificed the most out of the big 3 and I doubt he wanted ISO plays after carrying Houston for years like that. He has even said to Steph he wanted to play motion offense like GSW do a few years ago in the All Star break. Overall, Nets probably got stronger due to depth though.
kyrie put this team together, KD signed off on it but you're not going to NOT ask your star player about a trade of that magnitude. I love kyrie and i understand a man's values but if he would've just gotten that damn shot, we'd be having completely different conversations !
@@legaldealin2246 it's not hypothetical cause it can happen when he chooses... but it can still happen. Kyrie held to a different standard cause he a top player and he's a media target. especially when he spoke out about being unvaxxed
@@EdwinHargraves it's Hypothetical when you know he's not getting the shot. We're midway through the season. A different standard ? So why unvaxx players can play at Barclays but not Kyrie ? That's a bigger issue than him not getting the shot.
It's crazy that Bron is the only one that gets blamed for dictating which players management bring in when every superstar does it. It's been this way since forever.
James has been desiring the pairing of him and a great big man since he first start going off in houston he has the chance now with the best big man in league now I believe they might be able to do it
It's okay if he make the shot. I don't give a hoot just as long as he makes the shot. As a fan when I go to an NBA game, I am paying my money to see a win not a loss. I could care less who shoot that basketball. I just want to see that basketball go through the net. They can squabble all they want but that ball better go through the net.
The narrative of sacrificing HEALTH for basketball is juvenile. Kyrie is the most normal person in this scenario.. cause it is normal to place health over basketball, titles, and money.
Facts! But the media wants to push the vaccine so they are going to paint him as a villain. Is funny that people don’t realize how non objective an Ill informed the media is
So you are saying every other super start in the league is sacrificing their health because they got a vaccine? 😂 the juvenile narrative is thinking that getting the vaccine is sacrificing your health. Kyrie himself doesn’t even believe that it would be scarifying his health. His point is he wants to be able to choose what he puts in his body. Very different argument than the one you are making because his argument actually makes sense.
@@lorenzocorrea3 Yes. I am saying that. The FACT is that we DON'T KNOW what's in the vaccine, and we are LOGICALLY taking a RISK by taking it.. even if every 'super start' takes it. 🤣
@@DelanoEl you can’t have it both ways buddy. Either they are definitely 100% sacrificing their health for basketball, as you claimed, or we don’t know what the possible side effect are. Can’t have it both ways. Here is what we actually know, taking the vaccine reduces your chances of getting serious symptoms if you happen to get COVID. So in reality you are putting your health at risk if you don’t take the vaccine.
If Kyrie got serious side effects after taking the jab, would all of you that judged him take responsibility? Probably not. This is a free country (or so i thought) and Kyrie has the RIGHT to reject an experimental vaccine.
The story has been can LeBron win with Russ this season, but I think there should also be a discussion if KD can win with Kyrie. Kyrie is better than Russ on the court so basketball wise it would be easier to win with Kyrie, but personally and off court Kyrie takes the cake for being harder to win with
Skip and Shannon should have Kyrie on the show. They are very one sided on this stance and it doesn’t look good. They give no context to Ky’s reasoning and instead say he’s selfish all the time
There's a difference between a GM asking a star player do they approve of a trade the GM has in place and a Star player objecting to a trade and telling the GM who to go get lol. And as far as the All Star Game...why would KD pick Harden? Harden's injured and wasn't going to play.
Skip is so hypocritical. Just two seasons ago he was calling Drummond washed. I think he even called him Abdoul Drummond or Kareem Drummond. And now he’s the big body Nets needs. He always switches up to fit his argument
He never wanted to be in Brooklyn! Reuniting with Morey elsewhere was always his goal. Has little to do with Kyrie. If Kyrie was playing and the Nets were still trash he would have forced his way out anyway!
Still, it does have something to do with Kyrie bc if Kyrie wasn’t moving the way he does Harden would’ve at least stayed for this season. He already told the nets he was going into free agency so really there was a chance he was going to Philly regardless, but he would’ve at least stayed this season if he felt everyone was all in.
The Nets are cool . So many stories , superstars that play great on the field , many trades ... I remember when they went in back to back NBA finals with Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin and Richard Jefferson and they were a blue collar team playing fast and consistent with not much celebration by the medias , cuz they lost in the finals to the Kobe Shaq Lakers and then to the Spurs in their best year ever . I remember them as a great team in those 2 years , amazing on D and on scoring fast or slow down the game , great coaching too by B Scott . Now they are becoming dramatic like the Lakers but they are still very cool .
imploded? Harden didn't fit. Harden is a noshow in the post season... They got a lockdown defender and a shooter in return....they won in my eyes. Shannon just don't like Kyrie
it just makes what lebron did in cleveland with kyrie an even more amazing feat. it was well reported in clevelands days kyrie use to check out and go on his own. he is a difficult personality to deal with.
Every player does that. The all regular people and have life problems kyrie. You talking about a guys personality you've never even been around socially😄 you internet dudes are weirdos man
Honestly I cant blame Harden for this one. I guess he felt as Shannon said Kyriew asnt sacrificing enough and he signed up to go for a championship. Kyrie being a part time player look like he was half in half out and Harden wanted him to be all in.
@@kamisama811 opinion on the NY mandate is to each there own, I concede that. But this whole thing to Shannon's point is that Kyrie will ALWAYS choose his personal comfort over the success of the others. There are guys on that team that will never have had a better shot at a ring than being on this team. But don't worry, Kyrie stuck it the man contributing to wasting another prime year for KD. I just don't know how it wasn't Kyrie's head on the trade block.
@@gndo9145 But harden showed here that he's a bad teammate.Harden could've waited to see if the mayor would lifted the mandate or see if the nets started to pay fines for home games.Anyway the nets players had a problem with harden even before he wanted to get traded....Plus before new york implemented the vax mandate harden was out of shape eating honey buns and hanging with lil baby and not putting in the work. Blaming kyrie is like saying the healthiest vegetables is the reason for bad health.
@@gndo9145 Anyway Doc Rivers job is on the clock.James Harden is going to get Doc river fire and get Mike d'antoni to coach the sixers next season,Also it's going to be friction between joel and harden once that happens.
@@kamisama811 lol a year later joel is playing the best ball of his career, while neither KY or kd are with the nets right now. Looks like harden won out after all
I can understand Shannon’s side but I’m sorry, what you put into your body is deeper than Basketball. I will always respect Kyrie more for holding his values.
Kyrie won’t inject the poison shot that doesn’t stop infection or transmission. If it only helps keep him out of the hospital why can’t he play basketball?
"only helps keep him out of hospital", really think about what you just said. So you would rather risk severe infection or death rather than just take a shot that almost every doctor recommends. Foh with that stupid logic.
@@isaiahh.6871 lol, your point about driving contradicts your no risk point. You know their are chances of death in driving, that's why you use the seatbelt. If you think taking vaccine doesn't decrease risk, you might as well not use seat belt, why do you need it anyway when it only reduces the chances, why do you need it anyway when its not going to save someone's life in an ill fated crash. Why even bother using seat belts on plane when you can't prevent it from crashing? Why not stop taking medicines for severe diseases, heart conditions, etc.? Use some logic. The same science that gave you medicines and other vaccines, that same science recommends the vaccine, and still people are debating whether its safe or not. There is no such thing as a partial boycott, either do it completely and don't take any medicine or vaccine, or don't do it.
Exactly why couldn't he do the same thing he did in Houston and get them to the playoffs,James harden is just a cry baby he needs to be coddled and loved I liked James harden but I lost a lot of respect for him after this
@@mariojimenez227 oh I forgot a team only has one player..and let's not rewrite all the bricks LeBron shot in the clutch before Kyrie won the damn title with his shot, ( same for Jesus Shuttlesworth)let's also name the time lebrom won the title without two allstars starting with him....so spare me the nobody ever won without lebron antics
@@mariojimenez227 LeeBron ain't won nothing without begging for a super team and still lost. Look at the team Kyrie had and compare it to getting two more all stars one of whom is the top in the league and LeeBron still needed ky to bail him out.again..look at the tape and stop going off your love of his mystique. Dude misses shot after shot when his teams are down then he's saved his teammates. Even in the bubble AD was carrying them on offense AND defense.
Honestly, the commissioner needs to suspend players who try to force their way out or if they show any form of unprofessionalism. If you act like a Harden, Simmons or AD, you'll be automatically suspended 1 year w no pay and ineligible for a supermax.
People all fail to mention that the Nets gave up an allstar center, one potential all star gaurd, and a solid backup point guard....... the nets gave up their bench for Harden that wasnt needed..... the Nets were better without Harden.....
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Y’all need to add more perspective to the Kyrie conversation. It’s so one sided at this point. All you guys do is call him selfish and a bad team mate and never offer insight into his reasoning and how there are man (non-famous) people dealing with similar situations to him. They just aren’t making millions a year
@@Zaq-san I think they are calling him selfish from a teammate standpoint. U have to be on accord to win championships. Kyrie is too much of a me first guy to be all in at this point I believe is what most are saying but he has a track record to show he’s a selfish player so that’s evident to them
@@31bigfree I get for his past situations but since he came to the nets he’s been handling that better because he wanted to be on the nets. Also I would agree if when he signed with the nets, mandates were a thing, but they weren’t. He had no idea the state of NY was going to force him to get a shot that he doesn’t agree with/feel certain about, and that shouldn’t make him selfish for trying to make the best of the situation while also respecting himself and his body. Like I get that point but I feel like the side I just mentioned is NEVER discussed on this show; just feels like constant Kyrie bashing
I been done with Kyrie, its always something with him. Mark my words KD will be done with him soon too.
Shannon always gotta bring up LeBron.
Shannon brings humor and logic to almost every time he really is talented at his job ... Give that man a bigger bag to stay because he provides great clarify to the audience
He definitely deserves it… the show would be unwatchable without him ..
Logic on football topics not so much on nba topics
Skip is definitely making sure Shannon is getting paid BIG bucks. For sure more than he would make at ESPN.
@@efeezy7770 well, he played football and not basketball, the logic kind of follows.
Clarity
“we don’t need no coach”😭😭😭
🤣😂😭💀💀😂😂🤣🤣
You do realize that they only played 16 games together in all these games right? They are 13-3 when playing together. So what are you even laughing about?
@@soulsearch1234 well its over now so bringing that up is pointless also
The funny part out of all of this is we all thought kyrie would do something to ruin the Nets eventually & this man did exactly that 😂
😅😅😅
You can’t make this up 🤦🏽♂️ kyrie has messed up every TEAM he’s ever been on in pursuit of something selfish, makes sense there’s no I in team but one in Kyrie
They will have a better team after the trade anyway. If the COVID mandate changes, they are still the favourites to win it all.
You only need 2 super stars to lead a team. Kryie is just a bonus. The question is does Harden think Joel is a better player than KD? Because he switched to a 2 super star team.
This is about KD and harden. Y’all are choosing to bring a Kyrie into this…haters
They never give the props to Steph to taking the back seat for KD. He's a unanimous MVP
He didn’t really take a back seat. Both KD & Curry shared.
He still takes a backseat without kd...where's his fmvp
He's taking a backseat to his father Ja Morant and the Grizz come playoff time.
He took a backseat to Andre Igoudala too. 🤣
Funny thing is, even tho statistically kd was better, the team was always stephs, steph has zero ego 😅 0-3 in fmvp, and he take it like a G
Can you blame Harden? He didn’t sign up to play with part-time Kyrie, that issue impacts the team, whether you think Kyrie is in the right or not. That being said, the pressure is on James to make it work in Philly.
Yes I can blame him. He knew who Kyrie was when he joined the team. He's a loose cannon. Him not taking a mandated vaccine or rejecting some other COVID related restrictions was entirely predictable.
He signed up for a cupcake ring and quit on the team the moment he had to face some adversity.
Even without Kyrie, KD and Harden should be enough to lead you
@@Itakotsu well they did have the #1 seed in the east before kyrie came back
@@bishopbad373 exactly
How about the New Edition analogy Shannon used. Perfect analogy. "You can out sing em all, but you weren't there at the beginning." Damn!
Yo, lol, Shannon had me cracking up @that analogy, but it’s so true.
I've always enjoyed Shannon's ability to talk from a players viewpoint. Not just ex player that knows how tiring a game is but how there are so many mental aspects to sports. Reminds me of Barkley.
He's way better than Barkley, stop. Stop it!
@@travisgarvin4766 Come on Skiiiiip.
Big facts 💯
“I Needed To Be Around Guys That I Know Want To Win” says James Harden as the 76ers lose by 47 points
They lost Curry & Drummond. They literally lost the best shooter and rebounder on the team of course they gonna be dramatically worse without Harden on the floor use context.
"I needed to be around guys that I know want to win" - Harden after getting bounced by the Raptors or Bucks in the first round.
Says James Harden as the Nets being on a 11th game losing streak before the trade when they got Curry and Drummond in the trade, and Kyrie only playing the road “part time”.
U rather him be around kyrie that doesn't even play
@@stoppingbronsexuals992 embiid had 19 what does Drummond and curry got to do with that? Ain’t he supposed to be mvp?
Say what you want about bron but we should be giving more kudos to him in how he delivered 3 championships in 3 entirely different situations. It shows his willingness to adapt and lead. No other player in history has done that
He doesn't adapt teams adapt to him being there and his game
@@nnightkingj call it what you want, he has proof it works. Multiple times lol
@@quantrelknows well of course he builds super teams it better work but that isn't what I was arguing
@@quantrelknows Ah yes, the winning formula:
- Leave your previous team in a bad state after you forced bad signings and trades
- Sign with a team that had potential or plans of becoming a superteam
- Force them to listen what you think are your needs
- Repeat
@@CavsFanDallasFanSinceFebruary and he has won everywhere he has been so what’s ur point? 😂
KD underestimated what great character means. He benefitted from some of the best team players in the league in Golden state and thought he was the reason they were succeeding. No, they were good before you and they'll be good without you. KD lacks championship character and therefore him leading a super team will never work.
Agreed! I think the reason why things soured in GS is because KD for whatever reason just can’t seem to be or stay happy. Steph literally was the ultimate team player and KD felt his kindness came with some type of agenda when Steph was just being Steph.
And to your BS point that Golden State didn’t need him, they definitely did because they haven’t beaten a healthy team in the finals without him. So there’s that
What is better winning or losing an NBA Finals? I’m sure winning right ... Would the Cavs beat the Warriors in 2015 with Kyrie and Kevin Love? 2016 proved it YES! GS feared LeBron so much they beg KD because he’s the only player at that time comparable to LeBron he always been #2. GS couldn’t handle LeBron and Kyrie and they knew it. KD is why they won 2 more. Toronto Raptors is another team that proved they’re beatable.
@@1anth they also haven’t been healthy since then. Face it kd is extremely gifted player but leader of championship team he is not when has This happened???
@@OfficialCarlay KD win zero rings before GS. And he’ll win zero after
A team built on isolation scorers with no leaders what did people expect?
Give me a generational talented player who wins games and championships over a vocal leader that doesn’t contribute the same thing.
You act like there were on-court issues that held them back. Injuries and mandates didn't even let them get on the court together to figure it out.
@@1anth A generational talent combined with a leader beats a generational talent without a leader. It doesn't have to be an either/or. Ideally you have both aspects covered in your team.
@@1anth what team has ever won a championship without a vocal leader as one of its top players? I rest my case.
@@1anth I think he meant to win championships and games, you need a guy that's a leader as well. Being good is not good enough to win it all. You need a mix of role players and sub stars to finish the job, combined with a clear leader.
didn't skip call drummond a ball stopper lmaoo ?
16 total games the big three played together. I would have left too. Waste of time.
And they were 13-3 in those games too.
In 2 years lol
Okc should have never let James Harden go, if they kept Westbrook, Harden, KD, and Ibaka together then they were potentially winning multiple championships
But will Harden be the player he is today in OKC?? Would Russ be the TD machine back then compare to now. We will never know I know Harden and Russ probably wouldn’t be the player they are now - well Russ was at his best with OKC BUT he was the main guy.
I call him Icaca when he starts stinking up the joint.
Lmao and now they have nothing 😂😂😂. Over some BS luxery tax. That gm and owner are dumb as f. All time dumb as f
What GS did in that 5yr span was what I thought OKC was going to do.....I saw OKC first in that light!
Shannon thinking people should be taking a experimental vaccinology injection to work or bounce a ball or WHATEVER, shows how much of a meathead and how much of a incompetent imbecile he is.
Chuck: "When somebody want out, you let em go. Don't let em come back, good job KD" 😂😂😂
Ok when Philadelphia plays Brooklyn how busy will the refs be trying to keep the game calm?
Right up until Ben misses FTs. Then it will be others who need to keep calm.
Like RJ said yesterday "This is KD's team and he has to be the leader"
I like how Middleton is somehow the closer on the bucks. Yet russ hit more game winning/tying shots than KD on the thunder yet somehow russ wasn’t the closer there
The Nets got more depth with Harden leaving. What’s the point of this discussion? Lol
Lmao it’s just something to talk about, like every discussion has to have lebron included into it when he’s not even the main subject
@@TheOwlMansReal
Shannon is just throwing it back at Skip for always contradicting himself. He always says something about Bron but when it happens to another player, he looks dumb
It's the big storyline from the trade deadline. The rest of the year is going to be a debate about who won the trade. Not like there's much else for them to talk about. There's only so many "Lakers are trash" segments you can do before people start tuning out.
So skip can gush over KD being the best player
Still better with Harden
It sure did! Harden wanted to win but Kyrie don't wanna take the shot. Harden felt like Kyrie don't care enough to win for Harden and Harden checked out. You can see this for months ahead
Harden wanted a cupcake ring and when things started getting a little uncomfortable and people began expecting him to lead the team he quit on the them.
@@FaithfulFumoFan23 what do you mean?... who looked at him to lead? Everyone was looking at KD leading. That’s not a fair take on Harden. You say cupcake ring like itd be easy, NEWS FLASH; just because you have an abundance of good players doesn’t mean you’re gonna win a championship. Let’s look at the Lakers, they might now even make the playoffs this year! So let’s not act like it’s easy to win a ring here.
Factos
Harden blaming everyone when he's even playing like a shell of himself tge whole season while KD is playing on an MVP level
@@FaithfulFumoFan23 so what about the best player in the world, and kyrie
The funny part out of all of this is we all thought Kyrie would do something to ruin the Nets eventually & this man did exactly that 😭
Scary Hours? 🥴😂
He didn’t ruin them lol the New York mayor did. F out of here taking a vaccine that doesn’t keep you from catching or passing Covid-19
@Cartwill Cartwill Nice try but unfortunately Kyrie did cause this. If he didnt want to be Vaccinated thats his choice. The state of NY also had a choice to let him play or not being unvaccinated and they chose not.
Elliot _ wtf he puts in his body is more important than basketball, y’all are crazy
@@elliot16 but NY let's non vaccinated traveling teams play. Explain the logic?
@@cartwillcartwill6609 let me guess the government puts a chip in you thats tracking you
Imagine if LeBron had a Prime Harden and a Prime Kyrie at the same time and couldn't even MAKE it to the Finals, how would Skip react. But "the best player on the planet" can't make it work🤔🤔🤔🤔
Facts and that’s what annoys me about skip he rarely uses logic or facts just goes off of his emotions
KD never had Prime Harden in the playoffs. He was injured. He didn’t have prime Kyrie either. He got injured in the playoffs. We all saw what happened to Lebron when Kyrie was hurt.
@@steveno7058 we saw it, but did he get a "pass" for it the way KD is?
@@mg19cal Of course he did. No one ever blames LeBron for losing that Finals, as a matter of fact he gets a lot of credit for taking that team to 6 games vs Warriors
Best comment on the whole thread yo
When Harden was talking about being with a team that wants to win, he was throwing shade at Kyrie. Kyrie is the one that’s holding back the team by first not playing any games, and then only playing half. KD is tired of both of them though, let’s be honest.
A part time Kyrie would’ve been more helpful from the start of the season than a full time Harden because if you’ve at least watched 10 Brooklyn Nets games this season Harden was holding the team back & would cost us games dude to poor play KD was carry Harden
What a coincidence that all of Durants ex teammates go years without talking to him or mentioning him before making amends. From Westbrook calling him cupcake and a snake, to draymond calling him a B and saying the Warriors didnt even need him to his face. People forgive and move on eventually but that doesnt change the pattern and the common denominator
@@storiesofyonko facts tho. I rather have part time kyrie than harden. Dude gets killed and his play is not really affecting wins.
@@storiesofyonko Facts. None of these clowns speaking on the situation have watched a single Nets game.
@@storiesofyonko doesn’t matter what would be more helpful. Not being all-in over some outrageous selfish reason just isn’t right.
Phil Jackson, Steve Kerr, Doc Rivers and Pat Riley/Eric Spolstra are the only men that could manage so many egos it’s hard out here for these coaches when you have so many superstar egos on one squad
This man, with a straight face, just said he was tough on Bosh because everybody was tough on him plus he was an easy target. Wtf is that? If that doesn’t tell you everything you need to know about Skip…🤦🏾
Bully, pile on, mob behavior.
Its not Kyries fault. Blame the NBA and the democratic politicians. All Kyrie is doing is not taking something he doesn't want to take.
@KSG true blame New York
Bro I’m so with you! People don’t realize the NBA has basically told the Nets they can’t pay the fines for Kyrie to play home games. It’s actually written into the mandate that after 5 games the team is charged 5K for each game a non-vaccinated player plays in NY. They could literally charge that to Kyrie and I’m sure he’d accept. But the NBA has basically said no to that at this point. Sucks to be in NY/CA rn if you ask me 🤷🏼♂️
@KSG the states made the mandates but the nba did nothing to protect the players right to choose. So its both the democrats and the nba.
Media been at Ky's throat ever since he escaped from under the shadow of "The King."
Definitely not Kyrie’s fault. I wouldn’t take that poison ☠️ either
Unc out here spitting lol😎👌🔥🔥🔥🔥 FACTS
Shannon is 💯. Kyrie did this!
Wow force somebody to take an experimental vaccine that kyrie probably doesn’t need because he’s a healthy young athlete we get it you voted for biden
@@jays4113 NY Mandate did this!! Was looking forward to seeing more of the The Big 3, that’s all! Hopefully, it works out for Nets! Philly seems to be off to a great start since JH arrived 😂
I don't know who's happier that it didn't work out in Brooklyn for KD, Shannon or Nick Wright 😄
Nick......Nick is the answer lol
The Golden State Warriors
The problem is that Harden and Durant just want to hoop, and Kyrie's just inside his own head all the time. They're both frustrated.
Thank you...Kyrie don't like the fact that KD and Harden are better than him. He could not coexist with Lebron after even winning a title. Kyrie could not play with snipers in Boston.
There was no chance KD was signing off on Westbrook for Harden 😂
This man Kyrie Irving ruined what could have been a top 5 team all time 😂😂😂
Yeeeessss
Why because he didn’t take that stupid vaccine
folks mad because it's true. Lol. Kyrie ruined the team with his stay away decision.
Remember unvaxx away players can play at Barclays but not Kyrie. Kd and Kyrie are champions, Harden ?
@@tqdolla yep, stupid or that's why it's called a SACRIFICE
Unc Shay is hilarious!!! LMAO!!
You’ll appreciate even more the sacrifices of Chris Bosh to make the Heat team work.
Yes he did BIG TIME SALUTE TO CB 🏆🏀
Pretty much
Now KD know how Russ feels when he chunked up the ✌🏿signing with the Warriors.
The New Edition, Johnny Gil reference is an absolute Gem.
All I know is, I've said it before and I'll stand by what I said, KD deep down is missing Golden State.
Ok Skip
I just don't understand how, choosing not to put something in your body has anything to do with sacrifice
Harden was looking for a reason to get out because he wanted to be in Philly all along
💯this was always the plan, maybe a ring on the way, but it didn’t happen . Now he gotta show up and show out or else the media bout to throw him to the wolves.
KD team better than LeGM’s garbage Lakers!
Faxx 1000000%
What Are The Winning Tangibles Of KD? He Proved Nothing. He Blew A 3-1 Lead To The Warriors Team He Later Joined. He’s Great, But He’s Not The Best Winner Either.
You are illogical
That may be true but of the 3 of them KD has shown just as recently as last year in the playoffs that he showed he could carry a team with that performance vs the Bucks.
Thank you Shannon for speaking the truth. I almost gave up on you. Thabks
The deal is Harden was waiting for his opportunity to reunite with the GM of Philly. Playoff time last year, what did he do ? don't blame KI or KD; blame James for his lack of being a team player. Yeah, his stats always look good in the regular season but go to his playoff stats because these are the games that define you...
He was hurt?
I agree 👍Shannon is good and knowledgeable with passion!
Chris Bosh is so underrated!
WELL SAID GUYS.
Nets actually created really good team! Simmons don’t need to shoot now just defend and pass. Kyrie and KD will shoot, Curry is great pickup aswell Drummond defensively. They can run line up with Simmons,Kyrie,Kd no problem. I think Nets have bigger chance to win now that with Harden
Shannon went super Saiyan in his opening, used skips arguments on him
Kinda sad how Kyrie is/and will continue to be villainized by the mainstream media for standing strong in his values and not “sacrificing”
Bro every time that day “sacrifice” when talking about Kyrie getting the shot it makes me puke. Sacrifice in basketball is changing your role/minutes or something. Or injecting something into yourself that is super uncertain and flat out has a sketchy narrative all around it
The rhetoric being used by the media is disturbing. He's "letting his team down" by exercising his right to do what he wants has a grown man when it comes to his medical decisions? He needs to "sacrifice" for the "greater good" hmmm we've heard that line before plenty of times haven't we?
Exactly it's sad
@@Zaq-san your absolutely correct
Shannon, Lebron did create a superteam and it already imploded, its the current Lakers team. Thats a superteam thats imploded already and doesn't work. Stop dancing around, because you know its a superteam done wrong. But Lebron has alot to blame, because he have a vote to sign these players.
I was thinking the same thing
Bro, Bron & AD literally won a ring in ONE season. What did KD, Harden, & Ky do? 😳 Not even make the ECF. Make it make sense
@@krelilkre injuries
@@KingGregory27 Ok. So the Lakers have been hurt all season. But I guarantee you, you’re 1 of the guys who’ll laugh if they don’t make the playoffs….So no excuses my G
@@krelilkre i’m a lebron fan 🤣 Will be upset if they miss the playoffs for sure. I think you could blame the russ trade on bron, but not his play. If anyone does that, I’d give them the same reasoning I’m giving you. I ain’t biased bruh. Logic always win 🤌🏽
Skip, if you're asking "how did KD put this team together?", I have to ask you the same: how did LeBron put his team together? You've got the entire LeBron Hate-Train spreading misinformation about that whole operation, but you & everyone else brushes what KD did under the rug. This is the third superteam he has been a part of; James Harden, Russ, KD, then Curry, Draymond, Klay, & KD, then James Harden, Kyrie, and KD. But, ya'll make excuses for him and still trash LeBron & call him the GM. 😂😂😂. Bunch of jokes.
Both d-bags.
What"superteam"has Kd played on? This is the first team he's been on where he & another player r proven winners, even though they"piggybacked"! LeBron had a plan in LA & it hasn't worked out like Kd's hasn't either! I believe Skip is being condescending a/b Kd, he had a public back & forth w/him. He'll ride him if he finishes w/just those GS🏆's..... I believe!!
The young and not yet in prime Thunder were not a superteam nor can you "blame" Durant for being a part of that team. They were put together organically and Harden was barely a 6th man for that team. Not to mention that Harden was traded immediately after they made the 2012 finals. That was not a superteam.
A superteam in the LeBron sense that gets criticized is when a superstar actively recruits other stars (who are still close to their prime) so that they can play together and dominate the NBA. LeBron built a superteam in Miami. He attempted to build one in the second Cleveland go around. And now he's done the same thing in LA with AD and Westbrook.
Durant joining the Warriors turned them into a superteam. They weren't one before. They were just a very good team with great chemistry and one transcendent star. And so the Brooklyn experiment is the only time that Durant has attempted to put together a LeBron James-esque superteam.
@@megavolt67 Kd joining the dubs made them a"superteam"🤔how what had he won or proven to that point? MIA a"superteam"🤔, the only proven winner was d-wade to the point of them joining together & the second go 'round in CLE w/Kyrie & love? Not even close w/this LA team he's on.....u have an interesting view on"superteams"!
@@ReverendSam1 you really gon act like the warriors when KD joined wasn’t a superteam😑
KD was the one who wanted more ISOs even back at GSW. Harden sacrificed the most out of the big 3 and I doubt he wanted ISO plays after carrying Houston for years like that. He has even said to Steph he wanted to play motion offense like GSW do a few years ago in the All Star break. Overall, Nets probably got stronger due to depth though.
kyrie put this team together, KD signed off on it but you're not going to NOT ask your star player about a trade of that magnitude. I love kyrie and i understand a man's values but if he would've just gotten that damn shot, we'd be having completely different conversations !
Can't say you understands a man values, and then speak hypothetical. Unvaxx away players can play at Barclays but Kyrie can't ?
@@legaldealin2246 it's not hypothetical cause it can happen when he chooses... but it can still happen. Kyrie held to a different standard cause he a top player and he's a media target. especially when he spoke out about being unvaxxed
@@EdwinHargraves it's Hypothetical when you know he's not getting the shot. We're midway through the season. A different standard ? So why unvaxx players can play at Barclays but not Kyrie ? That's a bigger issue than him not getting the shot.
It's crazy that Bron is the only one that gets blamed for dictating which players management bring in when every superstar does it. It's been this way since forever.
So y’all didn’t witness James Harden playing a whole playoff series on a damaged hamstring. That looks like a character that’s all in to me. 🤷🏾♂️
Hands down best duo in sports media skip & Shannon 🏋🏿♂️
James has been desiring the pairing of him and a great big man since he first start going off in houston he has the chance now with the best big man in league now I believe they might be able to do it
Best big man in the league. I didn't know Jokic played for Philly?
@@QuackMamba34 I ain't gon lie I fw joker bt aye it is wat it is
MAN HARDEN IS ANTONIO BROWN WITH A BASKETBALL CAREER HAHHAHAAA
Harden just can't handle being 2nd fiddle.
Imagine what embiid will say when he noticed harden wants the ball all the time, antonio brown with a basketball
It's okay if he make the shot. I don't give a hoot just as long as he makes the shot. As a fan when I go to an NBA game, I am paying my money to see a win not a loss. I could care less who shoot that basketball. I just want to see that basketball go through the net. They can squabble all they want but that ball better go through the net.
So now a year later skip owes harden a apology he saw this ship sinking back then
lol. James Harden gave KD a taste of his own medicine.
not really
How exactly?
funny how that hallway convo turned out to be 100% right lol and they both denied it on camera "they got 2 Max spots!" lmao
The narrative of sacrificing HEALTH for basketball is juvenile. Kyrie is the most normal person in this scenario.. cause it is normal to place health over basketball, titles, and money.
Facts! But the media wants to push the vaccine so they are going to paint him as a villain. Is funny that people don’t realize how non objective an Ill informed the media is
So you are saying every other super start in the league is sacrificing their health because they got a vaccine? 😂 the juvenile narrative is thinking that getting the vaccine is sacrificing your health. Kyrie himself doesn’t even believe that it would be scarifying his health. His point is he wants to be able to choose what he puts in his body. Very different argument than the one you are making because his argument actually makes sense.
@@lorenzocorrea3 Yes. I am saying that. The FACT is that we DON'T KNOW what's in the vaccine, and we are LOGICALLY taking a RISK by taking it.. even if every 'super start' takes it. 🤣
@@DelanoEl you can’t have it both ways buddy. Either they are definitely 100% sacrificing their health for basketball, as you claimed, or we don’t know what the possible side effect are. Can’t have it both ways. Here is what we actually know, taking the vaccine reduces your chances of getting serious symptoms if you happen to get COVID. So in reality you are putting your health at risk if you don’t take the vaccine.
That New Edition reference was on point 😂😂💯
Shannon used that line the moment he wanted outta Golden St a couple years ago 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If Kyrie got serious side effects after taking the jab, would all of you that judged him take responsibility? Probably not. This is a free country (or so i thought) and Kyrie has the RIGHT to reject an experimental vaccine.
KD is not the blame. Period.
The story has been can LeBron win with Russ this season, but I think there should also be a discussion if KD can win with Kyrie. Kyrie is better than Russ on the court so basketball wise it would be easier to win with Kyrie, but personally and off court Kyrie takes the cake for being harder to win with
Both Russ and Kyrie are difficult for different reasons.
Only thing Kyrie does better than Russ on the court is shoot and handle the ball better
@@TayyDay and make better decisions
@@StickyFingerss yea no
@@TayyDay ur definitely know nothing about basketball kyrie is a way better player than westbrick everyone would agree with me so yeh
Nobody going to talk into Shannon's ear piece and tell him its Sean Marks and not Bobby Marks?
Skip and Shannon should have Kyrie on the show. They are very one sided on this stance and it doesn’t look good. They give no context to Ky’s reasoning and instead say he’s selfish all the time
None of these networks will ever allow Kyrie to give his side of the story.
@@FaithfulFumoFan23 so sad but true. And most people can’t even see that issue and will blindly agree with this one sided bs and blame Kyrie
@@Zaq-san there is no side on the issue, get the damn vaccine.
You mean the vaccine proven to cause myocardosis
@@FaithfulFumoFan23 he should be treated like Aaron Rodgers is. Hypocrite
i love this show babyyy
KD Is Johnny Gill and the Warriors are New Edition 😂😂😂😂
There's a difference between a GM asking a star player do they approve of a trade the GM has in place and a Star player objecting to a trade and telling the GM who to go get lol.
And as far as the All Star Game...why would KD pick Harden? Harden's injured and wasn't going to play.
Correct! The lakers situation and thd nets situation aren't exactly the same
Skip is so hypocritical. Just two seasons ago he was calling Drummond washed. I think he even called him Abdoul Drummond or Kareem Drummond. And now he’s the big body Nets needs. He always switches up to fit his argument
He never wanted to be in Brooklyn! Reuniting with Morey elsewhere was always his goal. Has little to do with Kyrie. If Kyrie was playing and the Nets were still trash he would have forced his way out anyway!
Still, it does have something to do with Kyrie bc if Kyrie wasn’t moving the way he does Harden would’ve at least stayed for this season. He already told the nets he was going into free agency so really there was a chance he was going to Philly regardless, but he would’ve at least stayed this season if he felt everyone was all in.
That's false they were 13-3 when they all played so stop it
The Nets are cool . So many stories , superstars that play great on the field , many trades ...
I remember when they went in back to back NBA finals with Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin and Richard Jefferson and they were a blue collar team playing fast and consistent with not much celebration by the medias , cuz they lost in the finals to the Kobe Shaq Lakers and then to the Spurs in their best year ever .
I remember them as a great team in those 2 years , amazing on D and on scoring fast or slow down the game , great coaching too by B Scott .
Now they are becoming dramatic like the Lakers but they are still very cool .
I respect Kyrie, don’t inject that poison ☠️ for something that doesn’t stop infection or transmission
Lol. Poison. 96 percent of the nba is vaccinated. Who exactly got poisoned?
I believe in the shot but Mandate is just wrong
Poison 💀 keep agreeing with the dude that thinks the worlds flat
@@betacancri1476 half of them had covid too. and kyrie only got it after he came back to the team.
Shannon kills skip on a daily basis in their debates
Harden thought he would get a free ride at a championship and when that didn't happen he quit. Simple.
JAMES. FOUND NY STRIPPERS LOOK OUTT😭
Yeah, this is on KD the same way LBJ got Russ.
imploded? Harden didn't fit. Harden is a noshow in the post season... They got a lockdown defender and a shooter in return....they won in my eyes. Shannon just don't like Kyrie
Don't like Kyrie cuz he didn't want to be a sidekick to Shannon's boyfriend Bron Bron.
it just makes what lebron did in cleveland with kyrie an even more amazing feat. it was well reported in clevelands days kyrie use to check out and go on his own. he is a difficult personality to deal with.
Every player does that. The all regular people and have life problems kyrie. You talking about a guys personality you've never even been around socially😄 you internet dudes are weirdos man
INJURIES IS THE REASON
Honestly I cant blame Harden for this one. I guess he felt as Shannon said Kyriew asnt sacrificing enough and he signed up to go for a championship. Kyrie being a part time player look like he was half in half out and Harden wanted him to be all in.
He's need to blame New York vaccine mandate and the nets not kyrie but harden is a bad teammate.
@@kamisama811 opinion on the NY mandate is to each there own, I concede that. But this whole thing to Shannon's point is that Kyrie will ALWAYS choose his personal comfort over the success of the others. There are guys on that team that will never have had a better shot at a ring than being on this team. But don't worry, Kyrie stuck it the man contributing to wasting another prime year for KD. I just don't know how it wasn't Kyrie's head on the trade block.
@@gndo9145 But harden showed here that he's a bad teammate.Harden could've waited to see if the mayor would lifted the mandate or see if the nets started to pay fines for home games.Anyway the nets players had a problem with harden even before he wanted to get traded....Plus before new york implemented the vax mandate harden was out of shape eating honey buns and hanging with lil baby and not putting in the work.
Blaming kyrie is like saying the healthiest vegetables is the reason for bad health.
@@gndo9145 Anyway Doc Rivers job is on the clock.James Harden is going to get Doc river fire and get Mike d'antoni to coach the sixers next season,Also it's going to be friction between joel and harden once that happens.
@@kamisama811 lol a year later joel is playing the best ball of his career, while neither KY or kd are with the nets right now. Looks like harden won out after all
Shannon: He ain't Steph!
Me: Who is Shannon?!
KD is🏀 smart. He took crumbs for 2 seasons, took over...got his accolades and cashed in💵 later.
I can understand Shannon’s side but I’m sorry, what you put into your body is deeper than Basketball.
I will always respect Kyrie more for holding his values.
Kyrie said he would take a plant based vaccine though. Isn’t that just as experimental as the current vaccine?
Skip and Shannon need a cop show these guys have great chemistry.
Kyrie won’t inject the poison shot that doesn’t stop infection or transmission.
If it only helps keep him out of the hospital why can’t he play basketball?
"only helps keep him out of hospital", really think about what you just said. So you would rather risk severe infection or death rather than just take a shot that almost every doctor recommends. Foh with that stupid logic.
@@lmao5127 pratically no risk at all. Def considering his already healthy condition. Might as well not drive or fly in a plane as well.
@@isaiahh.6871 lol, your point about driving contradicts your no risk point. You know their are chances of death in driving, that's why you use the seatbelt. If you think taking vaccine doesn't decrease risk, you might as well not use seat belt, why do you need it anyway when it only reduces the chances, why do you need it anyway when its not going to save someone's life in an ill fated crash. Why even bother using seat belts on plane when you can't prevent it from crashing? Why not stop taking medicines for severe diseases, heart conditions, etc.? Use some logic.
The same science that gave you medicines and other vaccines, that same science recommends the vaccine, and still people are debating whether its safe or not. There is no such thing as a partial boycott, either do it completely and don't take any medicine or vaccine, or don't do it.
James Harden quit on Houston and Brooklyn. If he's that good, Kyrie not being shouldn't matter.
Exactly why couldn't he do the same thing he did in Houston and get them to the playoffs,James harden is just a cry baby he needs to be coddled and loved I liked James harden but I lost a lot of respect for him after this
@@StickyFingerss harden the crybaby but the dude that doesn’t wanna get a vaccine isn’t a crybaby lol
@@alexescutia4805 yeh cause doesn't have anything to do with basketball it's a life decision
LeBron quit on Cleveland twice and Miami
I’m surprised Skip isn’t blaming Lebron for this
So the person who has never won anything and chokes in the playoffs is now the guy who knows how to win? Ok, give me KD and Ky anyday of the week!!
Ky ain't win nothing without Bron, couldn't even make the playoffs.
@@mariojimenez227 oh I forgot a team only has one player..and let's not rewrite all the bricks LeBron shot in the clutch before Kyrie won the damn title with his shot, ( same for Jesus Shuttlesworth)let's also name the time lebrom won the title without two allstars starting with him....so spare me the nobody ever won without lebron antics
@@mariojimenez227 LeeBron ain't won nothing without begging for a super team and still lost. Look at the team Kyrie had and compare it to getting two more all stars one of whom is the top in the league and LeeBron still needed ky to bail him out.again..look at the tape and stop going off your love of his mystique. Dude misses shot after shot when his teams are down then he's saved his teammates. Even in the bubble AD was carrying them on offense AND defense.
12:00 😭
Honestly, the commissioner needs to suspend players who try to force their way out or if they show any form of unprofessionalism. If you act like a Harden, Simmons or AD, you'll be automatically suspended 1 year w no pay and ineligible for a supermax.
People all fail to mention that the Nets gave up an allstar center, one potential all star gaurd, and a solid backup point guard....... the nets gave up their bench for Harden that wasnt needed..... the Nets were better without Harden.....
Only thing I can’t really agree with Shannon on is KD building that Nets team
Umm Shannon. LBJ put together a super old team and that thang imploded right in front of your very eyes bro. Stop the nonsense please. 🤦🏾♂️🤣
True. At least the Lakers won in 2020 though. I don't want to hear anything about "That doesn't count because it was a Mickey Mouse bubble ring."
9:34 James Brown impersonation :))