Probably because he was just a boy the last time she saw him and recognized Superman as Kal-El because she built the crystal for him when he reached earth and that he reminds him of Jor
Yep! Thank you. Tal is in human clothes, Not standing by someone with the symbol of the house of El on his chest. She'd have no way to know and Clark might as well be wearing a nametag with that 'S'.
@@lisamurphy7028 He's not of the house of El... the rules of Kryptonian heritage are very like medieval Europe, the houses are established on descent via the male heir, not the female. Tal is of the house of Rho.
More like his logic and common sense kicks in. Although, since he doesn't know the custom of Kryptonian, there's no way he would think that things that he considered normal for humans are actually not common on Krypton.
I agree with Jordan Clarks fortress is way better but Tal reunited Clark with his biological mom Lara so he's a little good for doing that. I wish I could meet my biological mom and Jordan got to meet his Grandma too.
He's actually one of my favorite characters. In my opinion this is what happens when you don't deal with your trauma. I would never condone any of his actions. However, your heart breaks for him. All he ever wanted was to be loved by someone. He wanted a family. Everything he never had but because it was unattainable but because so many people dropped the ball when it came to him. I hope we see more of him as the series progresses. I'm interested in his arc.
No matter how much I love Tal-Rho, and I do, I kind of have to laugh at him here. He's in handcuffs and human clothes standing apart from a man wearing Lara's Crest...technically Jor-el's. She has no reason to think he's Kryptonian much less related to Superman/Kal'el. But this scene still rocks how much in humanizes and sympathetic-izes his brother in Superman's eyes.
I just love the redeeming arc they gave to Tal Roh. He isn't just some villain who was locked up trying to deceive his way back out and plot his revenge, he actually was sincere about his long-term pain, torment, and suffering. And the longer he spent with his brother, Superman, the more he could understand his views and make them his own. At least, that's how it seems for now while he is in the Bizarro world just on a long-time vacation. But I think the clue to that is the fact he bought two trucks for his nephews, which says a lot... it's like Vegeta: his may be the biggest character development. I was really glad to see that. Personally, I would love to see more of them fighting alongside each other.
Tal-rho feels like a much more sympathetic version of homelander don't get me wrong he's a great character but I think homelander is the type of villain that you're supposed to hate and even when you can sympathize with him, the goal is still to hate him. Tal it's different, he just wants his family back and is 100% justified to feel the way he feels. From the moment he came out of his pond he was treated like a monster.
Probably not since the films division of WB will not allow most film characters to be used by CW. But that could change...not likely but might happen with the possible sale of CW. The DC characters could be folded into HBO.
. . . . . I'm with Tal on this. . . . a mother who never knew of your existence until it was too late; she literally said that, was unable to ever love him. Maybe this verse will alter biology or change kryptonian biology. But the greatest affection of a mother for her child is biologically generated when the baby is in the womb. Children were engineered? Mother's were unable to love them with full maternal potential.
I don't believe that. Kara's parents loved her and she was engineered. Fathers love their kids that they never gave birth to. Adoptive mothers love their kids. I don't believe that the greatest motherly love is only with someone you give birth to. There's a lot of parents that don't love their kids they birthed. That's an ugly statement and I don't think the show or the mythology is saying that all Kryptonians were unable to love their kids except for Jor-El and Lara. That's bs.
@@femalerevan you're right. motherly love is possible when never giving birth. Not undeniable as the body prepares the body and mind for motherhood when giving birth, but possible. However she only "loved" him because she knew she had him somehow sometime. She never ever spent time with him, he was essentially abandoned by her "until it was too late." Then she loved the "fact that he was her son" but she never put it into action or test. A mother who was never present and never raised her child might've "loved" her child. But to the child, she is a stranger who may as well have no love but rather hate for them
Me? I haven't anything at all against the *actors*, nor do I even *want* to find anything to have against them; but merely for the abilities of these alien men: I *absolutely* mean them harm, as in *eternal* harm; but to do that... the first "hammerfall" must be against the *virtues* of the man in question; and only once that's thoroughly destroyed do you move against the body, with the aim to ensure the total demise of the creature. The sole reason is humbling myself- that and that alone moves one to hate anything even remotely above oneself... yet I did and do take real delight in this show.
@@leonmcnair4615 my original comment was made when s3 was on the air the fate of the show was unknown at this point that’s why I said to OP that the show being cancelled was premature they only decided to renew it for the last season when s3 finished
@@karenbell5309 Ah okay, fair enough. See, I came to S&L when all 3 seasons were already out for a while, and shortly before s4 was announced. I didn't know there was a "threat" of it being cancelled - it seems really too good and well-received to be
Such great scenes with Tal-Rho, Kal-El, Jordan and Mother/Grandmother Lara. You can really feel Tal's pain and really feel sorry for him. I feel there is still good in him, he just has to figure it out on his own.
Ooooo!!! I'm so glad Jordan is getting to meet his grandmother. I wish Jonthan could be there too. I hope that Lara can help Clark find out what's happening.
That is who he is. While Superman was raised and identified as Clark Kent first, Tal Rho is a proud Kryptonian who only used the name Morgan Edge to further his plots among humans.
Thal Ro is literally the "Bad Uncle with a Bad Past" trope, and I really love that. He acts like what a person with his past acts. He didn't believe in some sort of "Higher Purpose" or just "Destruction for the sake of Destruction". Dude just wants a home. He just couldn't see that a shelter was available for him, as he desperately built a stone house from the ground up in the middle of a storm. The dude is just lost... Damn, I can't believe I actually like another Kryptonian after Zack Snyder's General Zod. Good job to the people that made this show, from the writers all the way to the actors.
It’s definitely a parenting oversight on Clark’s part. Jon doesn’t know anything about his heritage. There’s bound to be some subconscious resentment about that within him. Hopefully, this season will address this aspect
@@tifflthom oh, absolutely. I’m not saying that Jon should be here in this scene. It’s dangerous, and Tal ended attacking Jordan. However, Clark has never taken Jon to his OWN fortress to meet his grandfather or learn about his culture. That’s just wrong, and there’s no real excuse for it.
It's very annoying to me. Even without powers, he's still half Kryptonian. Kryptonians didn't even have powers on their planet. He's still Clark's son. I get that in this situation, he's a liability though and he'd be a target. But, it keeps happening and if they're going to leave him out, they need to let it affect him and his characterization.
Lara does have a point, the Kryptonian Kids were made by genetic but Kal-El was born in The natural ways,so Jordan your father was born in The born natural ways.
Tal Rho gives all alien test tube babies a bad name! Makes sense when Kal El becomes a hero and his evil half brother turns into a villain! They had great power but only one of them used it for good
I'm confused. I Haven't watched the show, but what snippets I've seen from Clark and his family seems solid. Question for the people who've seen it: how do you feel about this seemingly endless parade of people from a long-lost planet popping up, just one after the other? Superman's...BROTHER?!
She’s engineered like the rest of the Krytonians. So basically a test tube baby. I think the difference with her is she was raised & loved by her Parents.
The Eradicator was the coolest new character that came from the Resurrection of Superman story arc. It’s a shame they rebooted him to be a machine and not the hero he originally was.
Why the genetically created babies aspect works in this and not in Man of Steel: MoS says Kryptonian babies were created to fulfil a specific job, without their consent. Jor-El and Lara don't want Kal-El's future decided for him so have a natural birth.... however, Jor-El goes to the trouble of creating a man sized superhero uniform for his infant son, and programs the AI sent with the ship to prompt Kal-El into doing a specific job without his consent.
Sadly probably not gonna happen but at least we have this show, the producer of it said she loved man of steel and this show is especially inspired from it.
@@xcaliber4141 Consciousness is not data. Consciousness is that which observe data. Its non-reducible. Only clownish Hollywood can up with stupid concepts like "upload your consciousness", which doesn't make sense even from a fantasy perspective.
Yeah, these guy's're damaged by their parents fooling around; not as badly as it *could've* been, but still... these alien men are profoundly messed up by their mom having had an affair.
Both this show and man of steel referencing how children on krypton are genetically born except for Superman.
And maybe Supergirl too or Alura gave birth to her too
Isn't that the other way around?
@@lucifermorningstarwishesyo2607 i know right?
@@josephmeza8835 no
The show krypton did it too
Jordan: "I like Dad's fortress better."
😁😁😁
well taste is subjetv i suppose.
What a burn, especially since they're in a desert.
Tal: Of course you don’t recognize your forgotten son.
Superman: You’re not wearing any house crests, dummy.
It's funny, but true
Probably because he was just a boy the last time she saw him and recognized Superman as Kal-El because she built the crystal for him when he reached earth and that he reminds him of Jor
Yep! Thank you. Tal is in human clothes, Not standing by someone with the symbol of the house of El on his chest. She'd have no way to know and Clark might as well be wearing a nametag with that 'S'.
DUDE YOU'RE RIGHT😂
@@lisamurphy7028 He's not of the house of El... the rules of Kryptonian heritage are very like medieval Europe, the houses are established on descent via the male heir, not the female.
Tal is of the house of Rho.
when Jordan said "but your his mother" I was like awww sticking up for your Uncle 💙 (even if you do call him jerkface later on 🤭)
More like his logic and common sense kicks in. Although, since he doesn't know the custom of Kryptonian, there's no way he would think that things that he considered normal for humans are actually not common on Krypton.
Clark and Jordan's.. "don't even try" look at Tal. Jordan's power's getting stronger
I agree with Jordan Clarks fortress is way better but Tal reunited Clark with his biological mom Lara so he's a little good for doing that. I wish I could meet my biological mom and Jordan got to meet his Grandma too.
i like tal rhos charcter arc
He's actually one of my favorite characters. In my opinion this is what happens when you don't deal with your trauma. I would never condone any of his actions. However, your heart breaks for him. All he ever wanted was to be loved by someone. He wanted a family. Everything he never had but because it was unattainable but because so many people dropped the ball when it came to him. I hope we see more of him as the series progresses. I'm interested in his arc.
No matter how much I love Tal-Rho, and I do, I kind of have to laugh at him here. He's in handcuffs and human clothes standing apart from a man wearing Lara's Crest...technically Jor-el's. She has no reason to think he's Kryptonian much less related to Superman/Kal'el. But this scene still rocks how much in humanizes and sympathetic-izes his brother in Superman's eyes.
I just love the redeeming arc they gave to Tal Roh. He isn't just some villain who was locked up trying to deceive his way back out and plot his revenge, he actually was sincere about his long-term pain, torment, and suffering. And the longer he spent with his brother, Superman, the more he could understand his views and make them his own. At least, that's how it seems for now while he is in the Bizarro world just on a long-time vacation. But I think the clue to that is the fact he bought two trucks for his nephews, which says a lot... it's like Vegeta: his may be the biggest character development. I was really glad to see that. Personally, I would love to see more of them fighting alongside each other.
Tal-rho feels like a much more sympathetic version of homelander don't get me wrong he's a great character but I think homelander is the type of villain that you're supposed to hate and even when you can sympathize with him, the goal is still to hate him. Tal it's different, he just wants his family back and is 100% justified to feel the way he feels. From the moment he came out of his pond he was treated like a monster.
Homelanders main issue was he was gaslit into believing he was a monster so he decided to go with it....TV show version is just a douche
@@lastraven8575true but he’s still kinda wholesome tho. His milk enthusiasm/protectiveness of Ryan is adorable🥺
I hope this series can bring other iconic characters in the league.
other than the ones that already exist on cw.
Probably not since the films division of WB will not allow most film characters to be used by CW. But that could change...not likely but might happen with the possible sale of CW. The DC characters could be folded into HBO.
Love Tal-Rho... Idk why xd
He is fun
*This was great to see*
Fate intervened long ago; That's heartbreaking
Why isn’t Jonathan there
. . . . .
I'm with Tal on this. . . .
a mother who never knew of your existence until it was too late; she literally said that, was unable to ever love him.
Maybe this verse will alter biology or change kryptonian biology. But the greatest affection of a mother for her child is biologically generated when the baby is in the womb. Children were engineered? Mother's were unable to love them with full maternal potential.
Kal was the only one that’s natural. Even supergirl was engineered.
I don't believe that. Kara's parents loved her and she was engineered. Fathers love their kids that they never gave birth to. Adoptive mothers love their kids. I don't believe that the greatest motherly love is only with someone you give birth to. There's a lot of parents that don't love their kids they birthed. That's an ugly statement and I don't think the show or the mythology is saying that all Kryptonians were unable to love their kids except for Jor-El and Lara. That's bs.
@@femalerevan you're right. motherly love is possible when never giving birth. Not undeniable as the body prepares the body and mind for motherhood when giving birth, but possible.
However she only "loved" him because she knew she had him somehow sometime. She never ever spent time with him, he was essentially abandoned by her "until it was too late." Then she loved the "fact that he was her son" but she never put it into action or test. A mother who was never present and never raised her child might've "loved" her child. But to the child, she is a stranger who may as well have no love but rather hate for them
Does Tal remind anyone else of Orm/Ocean Master in Aquaman
Damn that other dude is like a deadbeat son
He tries to act like Klaus from the originals
Me? I haven't anything at all against the *actors*, nor do I even *want* to find anything to have against them; but merely for the abilities of these alien men: I *absolutely* mean them harm, as in *eternal* harm; but to do that... the first "hammerfall" must be against the *virtues* of the man in question; and only once that's thoroughly destroyed do you move against the body, with the aim to ensure the total demise of the creature.
The sole reason is humbling myself- that and that alone moves one to hate anything even remotely above oneself... yet I did and do take real delight in this show.
Convoluted. Unwatchable parade of Superman movies and shows. Sick of it
Man. Sucks that this just got cancelled.
oh man
It didn't what are you talking about s3 has just started airing but the fate of s4 is not known yet that statement is premature
@@karenbell5309 I believe s4 is coming out this year sometime, they are working on it
@@leonmcnair4615 my original comment was made when s3 was on the air the fate of the show was unknown at this point that’s why I said to OP that the show being cancelled was premature they only decided to renew it for the last season when s3 finished
@@karenbell5309 Ah okay, fair enough. See, I came to S&L when all 3 seasons were already out for a while, and shortly before s4 was announced. I didn't know there was a "threat" of it being cancelled - it seems really too good and well-received to be
Such great scenes with Tal-Rho, Kal-El, Jordan and Mother/Grandmother Lara. You can really feel Tal's pain and really feel sorry for him. I feel there is still good in him, he just has to figure it out on his own.
She's a lot like Batwoman's Alice. They need to meet and exchange notes on their abandonment issues.
@@QwuithLordDartox Yes, I agree. They wouldhave a lot to talk about.
@@nickhydier1201 I can see them falling for each other though. Makes sense if her soulmate is not a human.
aye bro how you like the previous episode with them in prison and superman saving him
I always felt that too, I never felt Tal-Rho was evil he was just misguided and lonely, wanting his world and family back.
Ooooo!!! I'm so glad Jordan is getting to meet his grandmother. I wish Jonthan could be there too. I hope that Lara can help Clark find out what's happening.
In future episodes helps him while catching up over past years
@@phillipbates9587 I wish
Damn tal's actor showing his Shakespearian acting skills is golden. I felt his pain.
He's an exceptional actor.
It really did feel Shakespearean
Honestly, i felt bad for tal from how his father treated him
Villains aren’t born there made, I believe there is good in Tal, but he hast to figure it out himself
Cant he just turn off his hologram or whatever?
@@overlimit3521 not as easy considering he wanted his father's approval
@@jaykenarn6223 what approval though? The eradicator?
@@overlimit3521 Tal wants to be appreciated by his father, is what I wanted to sah
I really like Tal as he is a conflicted guy and he is genuinely hurt by someone who otherwise should've been able to protect & love him
Funny how is no longer Morgan Edge. Everyone calls him Tal now.
That is who he is. While Superman was raised and identified as Clark Kent first, Tal Rho is a proud Kryptonian who only used the name Morgan Edge to further his plots among humans.
So Clark is the only Kryptonian born from a natural birth.
The only one in centuries
What about Kara Zor-El?
@@localcritic4490 I don't know. Most likely yes. The House of El seems very different compared to the others.
@@localcritic4490 no just Superman everyone else on krypton was genetically engineered
Sadly that's from man of steel movie. Test tube babies
To me, after Arrow died, Superman and Lois is the flagship.
I'm so happy for these expansions to the cinematic world.
Technically it both an expansion and a stand alone
Thal Ro is literally the "Bad Uncle with a Bad Past" trope, and I really love that. He acts like what a person with his past acts. He didn't believe in some sort of "Higher Purpose" or just "Destruction for the sake of Destruction".
Dude just wants a home. He just couldn't see that a shelter was available for him, as he desperately built a stone house from the ground up in the middle of a storm.
The dude is just lost...
Damn, I can't believe I actually like another Kryptonian after Zack Snyder's General Zod. Good job to the people that made this show, from the writers all the way to the actors.
What is with the writers leaving jonathan out of meeting his kryptonian family
Probably because he doesn’t have powers
It’s definitely a parenting oversight on Clark’s part. Jon doesn’t know anything about his heritage. There’s bound to be some subconscious resentment about that within him. Hopefully, this season will address this aspect
@@tifflthom oh, absolutely. I’m not saying that Jon should be here in this scene. It’s dangerous, and Tal ended attacking Jordan. However, Clark has never taken Jon to his OWN fortress to meet his grandfather or learn about his culture. That’s just wrong, and there’s no real excuse for it.
It's very annoying to me. Even without powers, he's still half Kryptonian. Kryptonians didn't even have powers on their planet. He's still Clark's son. I get that in this situation, he's a liability though and he'd be a target. But, it keeps happening and if they're going to leave him out, they need to let it affect him and his characterization.
Lara does have a point, the Kryptonian Kids were made by genetic but Kal-El was born in The natural ways,so Jordan your father was born in The born natural ways.
I feel, that Clark does feel sympathy for Tal. He wasn't brought up in a loving household like Clark
imagine havig a kryptonian grandma,getting bullied and they say "who you gonna call,your grandma?" "actually,yeah"
For a sec i thought why is she getting bullied
I know that Zeta stole Lara's Crystal for leaving him for Jor-El. But I never expected him to give it to Edge.
He didn’t, it was with his pod but since zeta was in control of the fortress he wouldn’t aloud to use Lara’s crystal
God you know Tal-Rho is great character
Second season so far. Is firing on all thrusters. Writing top notch. 👌
The crazy vampire from true blood plays Superman’s mom.
Who?
So she didn't a abandon her son. It seems like someone used her eggs I'm guessing and she had no idea he existed.
This might be a weird question but anyone else wonder if Tal exists in other earths as Superman’s brother?
Maybe
There was a whole episode. Bizarre Superman and his brother Tal are close.
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 I made this comment before I saw that episode.
I will always see her as Bill Compton maker, Lorena
(True blood fans will know)
Who's the actress playing Lara?
Tal Rho's negative traits came from his harsh upbringing, raised by a self righteous and shameless father and not having a mother in his life.
Tal Rho gives all alien test tube babies a bad name! Makes sense when Kal El becomes a hero and his evil half brother turns into a villain! They had great power but only one of them used it for good
This is no trick Michael, in fact it's something far far greater: it's an illusion!
I'm confused. I Haven't watched the show, but what snippets I've seen from Clark and his family seems solid. Question for the people who've seen it: how do you feel about this seemingly endless parade of people from a long-lost planet popping up, just one after the other? Superman's...BROTHER?!
This is the closest to tears I have ever seen Tal
Is that Bill Comptons maker
Their duo is like Thor and loki except Tal is older brother here.
Does Tal remind anyone else of Orm/Ocean Master in Aquaman
Martha is Clark's mom. Lara is his birth mother.
So, Superman is the only Kryptonian of natural birth? What about Supergirl?
She’s engineered like the rest of the Krytonians. So basically a test tube baby. I think the difference with her is she was raised & loved by her Parents.
@@andreona1007 Ok, thanks.
1:48/1:49 what is the meaning of this
LARA LOR VAN
They remind me of Thor and Loki
fate did Tal dirty
The Eradicator was the coolest new character that came from the Resurrection of Superman story arc. It’s a shame they rebooted him to be a machine and not the hero he originally was.
woke show
While I will miss the show, it has been the best DC show heck superhero show in years.
3:19
0:52-0:53-1:27-1:30-1:33
Tyler looks like a homeless superman. Get him a good shave please!
Why the genetically created babies aspect works in this and not in Man of Steel: MoS says Kryptonian babies were created to fulfil a specific job, without their consent. Jor-El and Lara don't want Kal-El's future decided for him so have a natural birth.... however, Jor-El goes to the trouble of creating a man sized superhero uniform for his infant son, and programs the AI sent with the ship to prompt Kal-El into doing a specific job without his consent.
RESTORETHESNDYERVERSE!!!
Ain’t gonna happen
Sadly probably not gonna happen but at least we have this show, the producer of it said she loved man of steel and this show is especially inspired from it.
Negative
"Uploaded consciousness", complete bogus concept.
So like 6 stones with infinite energy nah dont be in a mirror house stone u know the rest
@@xcaliber4141 Consciousness is not data. Consciousness is that which observe data. Its non-reducible. Only clownish Hollywood can up with stupid concepts like "upload your consciousness", which doesn't make sense even from a fantasy perspective.
Yeah, these guy's're damaged by their parents fooling around; not as badly as it *could've* been, but still... these alien men are profoundly messed up by their mom having had an affair.
The cry of a great villain, "My mommy didn't love me enough!"
You laugh, but that was literally Azula's thing and she was one of the greatest villains in history
I always say this... I love to hear the USA and British accent speaking together.