How I Print RA4 || Darkroom
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Printed RA-4 with my Fujimoto CP-31 for years. We were the only studio (that we knew of) printing their own work for clients. We printed thousands. We used a Colorstar 3000 and balanced "in between the lines" for perfect color always. If you're going to do any serious printing invest in a color analyzer. the CP-31 and Colorstar were two of the best investments we made when we opened our studio. We sold the CP-31 a couple of years ago but hung on to our 3000 and Beseler 67 Dichroic. For larger prints up to 16x20 we used a drum. For novices it might seem fun and retro but for pro work it's a PITA! All in all it's a fun process. One word of advice: Make sure you are working in a well ventilated room. Breathing those chemicals is highly questionable. We always had a very strong exhaust and good circulation.
there's more than one way to control contrast/saturation: you can raise it by adding Hydrogen Peroxyde to your dev, or you can add Sodium Sulfite to decrease it (in minimal amounts -specially the sodium sulfite-. depending how much you add you get more intensity or decrease respectively)
I love learning about color printing! More of this, please. :)
Thanks Trey! More will come
The board sequence was really great.
Thanks Nico! I was pretty proud of that little board. Will keep showing them in future videos, maybe even more details as I perfect them.
Ah - this reminds me why I've decided to stick to b&w analogue! Even back in the pre-digital days colour work never appealed to me. Mind you I used to try and do cibachrome not RA4. But I think I'd feel lost in getting the "right" colour balance for colour negative. I find it bad enough scanning colour negatives! Maybe I'm just a monochrome guy.
Yeah, its a pretty big pain to print. But when it comes out right its awesome.
Great work, you are on fire lately!
Thanks! So much more on the upload list already, it's the new path to the channel.
hi Nico, great channel!!! Since I am having more and more trouble finding RA-4 paper and chemistry in Europe, I would love to hear where you get your supplies? Thanks !
Buen trabajo Nico Saludos desde Argentina
Gracias Gerardo! Saludos desde España!!
Thanks for the overview Nico, there is not a lot of RA-4 content out there so this is very helpful. I think the image is very striking, have you ever enlarged it? Would be interesting to see if the the impact is preserved in 11 x 14 or 16 x 20.
Great video mate - this is a topic where there isn't as much info available so it's great to see. Any plans on doing a jobo video?
Thanks James, Jobo content coming soon.
that was really interesting. Also made me think about how much I need to colour correct my c41 negs when scanning, I suspect they would be very difficult to print correctly :)
You might be surprised on how well they print compared to scanning. If you want (no pressure) you can send me a neg that has been hard and I can try printing it.
@@NicosPhotographyShow that is a good idea. I contact you on a more secure line.
So, uhm I hope you read this.
But I found some eTone ra4 paper on Amazon and AlieXpress.
I suspect that’s cut Fuji paper.
But I’m not sure.
Buen video! Hola Nico o alguien por aquí, a día de hoy que marcas de papel puedo usar para revelar color? Solo he visto Fuji Supreme HD… pero no estoy seguro si sirve para procesos químicos. Si alguien me puede aconsejar os agradecería mucho! Saludos!
Very cool, Nico. So you can't use any safelight work ra-4?
Thanks! You can use dim ones, I think they have to be orange, but cant remember, so dim its not worth it to me.
Got it the book... it does ship from the US, can seem to get it in Europe’s Amazon... regardless, thanks for the video..
Thanks! Let me know how you like the book.
Nicos Photography Show, in the meantime the book has arrived, I got the latest fourth edition 2016. So far so good, the book explains the chemistry behind darkroom’s processes. And it really has motivated me to now start to make my own chemistry. Now living in Spain (madrid) no idea where to buy sodium thiosulfate or potassium ferricyanide... and I really need to improve the ventilation in my darkroom!! Thanks for the tip for the book and if you have any idea where I’m would be a source for the chems, I would be very grateful! Thanks
@@achimboers glad the book arrived. Your print will ship today too... chemistry try Manuel Riesgo in Madrid and Quimicos Dalmau in Barcelona.
Nicos Photography Show , I went out to buy a bunch of supplies this week.. any suggestions on what developer to try first ... also.. I noticed Manuel Riesgo is actually mentioned in the book. Anyway thank for the tip!!
D76 is a must try and easy to do.
I have never done a color print, however I`m interested to start. Most difficult for me seems the paper development. It would be great to see, how it works with a Jobo tank in real life (w/o the chemistry-only demontration). What do you think about the alternative development using trays?
I will do one while printing soon, to demonstrate how I do it. I have heard trays can work, but haven't tested it, might give it a go to show how to not do it ;)
trays work, and if you're anxious about working in the dark, theres some very dim yellow lights with a specific wavelength that allow you to see a bit
For four years I work at home process ra-4. The bad news is that the papers are no longer analog, but the laser exposure. Based with one main color. Either blue, green, red, yellow. I can't find a balance of all colors.
Havent heard that they have changed the base of the paper, so far not many issues printing. What paper are you using?
@@NicosPhotographyShow What all this talk about digital papers is, means actually nothing else than the modern papers being slightly more sensitive to green light when compared to older "analog" papers. Fuji sales department has made claims that DP II is "exclusively for digital printing", but this is more like a marketing slogan than a fact about paper not being suitable for darkroom printing. When referring to analog, Fuji means older type of minilabs with an optical printer, not darkroom printing. Photofinishers and minilabs are the main market for these papers, and the marketing slogans are made for them - not the occasional hobbyist darkroom printers. What you see, is you probably need to add 10 of magenta filtration, that's all. I'm using DP II in darkroom with no problems whatsoever.
Hola Nico! estoy por comprar papel pero no se que acabado se vea mejor, brilloso, lustre o mate. tienes alguna preferencia ? saludos!
hOLA Nico seria bueno que hicieras este video con explicación en español Abrazo
Hola Gerardo, lo hare en cuanto pueda. Llevo tiempo sin positivar en color.
@@NicosPhotographyShow Gracias Nico igual tu tarea en el canal de inglés y el de español es magistral y muy ilustrativa Te cuento que yo comenzaré esta semana a hacer mis primeras copias color Te comentaré como me va Un abrazo grande
Nicos Photography Sh... What's your view about colour analysers? Do they help to save paper doing less tests or are they useless? Thanks
I have never used them. But they might be slightly outdated. Not sure.
@@NicosPhotographyShow well I think if they were used in the past with the exactly same process like RA4 (maybe the paper improved a bit...) why not to try it?
Hii, its my first time work with ra-4, and my printo only supports 2 minutes of bleaching time. Will this affect the photos?
Nothing compares to wet printing!
That goes just as much for C41 as for B&W.
People saying otherwise, is making a virtue out of not wanting to/being able to.
It’s a travesty that it’s so hard to come by labs doing it today.
Nothing does! It's fun and rewarding, even when it doesn't work. You learn a ton on exposure and developing too as it really shows in prints.
I see a lot of development issues with drums, is this a common problem? How do you manage it?
Where do you buy the Fuji paper? Ist cant seem to find it anywhere online
In the UK AG Photographic, B&H and Nordfoto.
if you see Adox paper, it's fuji paper cut from giant ones
Thanks Nico. Is it possible to do 8x10 ra4 contact prints?
Yes, its the same as with black and white but all in darkness.
Why do you waste so much paper to figure out the correct color?
Because of lack of experience, its not simple to get the hang of color printing.
@@NicosPhotographyShow It's deceptive because you're looking all picture. Use a small piece of paper on details you know the color. Usually 2-3 test is enough. Remove glasses from enlarger's negative holder. It's just give you nothing but dust.
Very messy not well thought through explanation, not very informative or nice to watch, I'm sorry
Thanks for the honest feedback, I will try harder for the next one. Feel free on what you would like to heard on the next one. Also meanwhile go check The Naked Photographer's RA4 series, its much better.