My gf made the first move: “Hi, that’s interesting, tell me about such and such” is all you need to get started. It’s that easy. 6 months in and best relationship ever!
Yep. In my opinion, starting a conversation counts as making the first move. It's relatively low stakes and more so because women aren't expected to actually do the asking, so you can make a move without actually fully exposing yourself to rejection.
A man is supposed to lead. As the head of the household. How you start a relationship matters. If you’re not leading now, how can you expect to have that leadership role in a marriage?
@@yarha599 A man is supposed to lead. As the head of the household. How you start a relationship matters. If you’re not leading now, how can you expect to have that leadership role in a marriage?
@@agfilmwriter469 hm, you gave me something to think about. But here’s the think it’s not so much leading that’s the problem. Women want you to chase them on a continuous bases. I said this before and I’ll say it again. I’m not up for an endless game of tag. If she wants me she will approach me and show me how interested she is. I’m a fair person if I know someone is interested I won’t play games. However, can we say the same for women?
100% spot on! I talk to women all the time. When a girl makes a move on me first I always give her a chance.. Even if she wasn't a 10/10. She is now in my eyes. Respect.
Some years ago I was walking home from the supermarket when a girl stopped me and asked me out for a drink. She was attractive, 17 years younger than me (me 37, her 20) and was only in the UK for a few months but we made it work for about four years. We rented a flat in her country and my work was online so I was able to travel back and forth. It didn't work out in the end (different life stages mainly) but it was a good relationship. And all from her just coming over to say hi 🙂
I’m excited to hear your thoughts on this, making the first move is a lot of pressure, but it shouldn’t be exclusively guys doing it!! I hope you have a phenomenal week Hayley 🥰💜
I've been single for 6 years now, the first years I never went anywhere as I was too shy/introvert to make the first move, but then I started changing things and asked guys out 4 times so far. It went well just once and we went out for a few months and he told he was really happy I contacted him. I don't do it with anyone, I must really like the guy and the more you do it, the easier it'll get, at least I know immediately if a guy is interested or not (if they are interested they'll be pleased and happy you made a move, if they judge they are stupid idiots not worth your time) and I don't waste my time wondering if he's into me or not. If he doesn't like me, well, fine, NEXT.
As a shy man (and with anxiety) I can confirm you are absolutely right Hayley ☺ Thank you for making these videos, I Will try to be more brave and look after signals from women. I live in Norway, I gress most tings Apple in both UK and here, but the culture here is known for being even more introvert than most countries.
I saw this guy, my spirit said, he's your husband, so, I created several intermittent conversations with him. Then I went in with the gusto move. I said, " if I give you my number would you call me, he said, Yes!😁 I felt great! But, he has a friend. Is it, wrong to go any further? My heart, says, differently.
Thank you for sharing this, superb topic .. as a guy I would be extremely flattered and pleased if a woman hinted at any type of "first move" .. yes, it would be a win-win and no matter who she might be .. or what social scenario I would gladly and graciously accept her invitation for a coffee, lunch .. or even just to chat. Cheers .....
I’m basically the only one in my family who isn’t married or in a relationship. Men do not approach me at all and the ones that do ended up really hurting me in the end or just looking for a hookup. I have been single for four years and haven’t met anyone new at all. I start to think to myself that maybe I should make the first move, then I think about all the females that actually have someone telling me that the right man will find me and I have faced rejection before when I made the first move. Ugh idk anymore.
Here's a tip from a shy guy.. I only feel comfortable talking with women who first talk to me, I have insecurities about bothering women even though I get a lot of attention because I'm not used to it.. I find that just a greeting is more than enough and letting them know they can start a conversation with you, SHOULD DO IT ALONE... Now you put the power back on his lap meaning you let him know OF COURSE only if he is interested back, that ITS OK to converse with you and if he is shy then it will be a back and forth thing.. you don't want to approach someone that isn't interested in you because yeah that may lead to rejection.. just my tips as a shy guy here. I just had many signals from this nice girl cashier but she had a bf smh and kept looking at me and getting close to me and talked to me first instead of me, I didn't feel right talking to her so I just stopped after a few days, it was just basic simple talk nothing about each other or work, life etc.. but that let me know how slow I have been.. also no offense but just making eye contact and smiling isn't enough, every woman, young and old, single and married always makes eye contact with me and smiles, I don't think all are interested in me nor would I take it as a sign too and I'm always the first to break eye contact because it's honestly weird staring at someone so damn long and yes I do mean more than 3-5 seconds, they still keep staring at my eyes.. I also consider myself an average looking guy
I've had women very boldly approach when I wasn't even trying to get any attention! My big problem was when I was young I had piss poor social skills, low self esteem, distrust of women and either didn't understand what they were trying to do or did not trust them and was cold and rude to make them get away from me. In the last few years - as I learned these social skills - I've had them do it even though I'm wearing a wedding band. I'd let them know that I'm married and nothing is going to happen but I'm happy to make a new friend.
100% agree. Listen closely women. You have made it impossible for any man to approach a female. The very real threat of being falsely accused of sexual harassment and other legal ramifications makes it impossible for a man to make any sort of approach to a woman. It also makes it difficult for the man to initiate touching a woman in the early dating period. You basically put men in a straight jacket. And since you’ve done this there is only one option. It is up to the woman to make all the first moves.
Thanks for this video. As a man it's letting me know that I personally have been not taking advantage of some of the opportunities women have been presenting.
I appreciate that you teach this to women and create a paradigm shift (them being an opportunity creator). Thanks for doing this and your phenomenal speech at the MMC 2019.
Women.. As a man 30yo, i had a slightly older coworker leave me a note on my car about 2 weeks ago. Had been single af atleast like 6 years, at first it was like i saw a UFO land infront of me. Total Shock. I decided to go out with her even tho i had reservations at first, and after 3 dates Im pretty sure she put a spell on me by taking initiative. Never had a relationship i wasnt responsible for initiating before, and now this woman has my interest like no other woman has because i know shes truly interested Most dates guys will ever have feel like a job trying to impress or convince the woman youre good enough for her time, those connections will go nowhere Imagine going on a date where they are already interested in you and its not a game of "impress me" Too good to be true right? Guys are THAT simple Hope it works out for us, I already know it will take every bit of 30 years for me to find a woman like this again
I dont approach women anymore my attitude is if a woman really really likes me she'll approach me and if she doesn't she couldn't of been that into me if she doesn't make the effort.
OMG "eye contact" and "asking him to take a photo of you and your friends" are NOWHERE NEAR "crystal clear" signals. "I'm attracted to you sexually, and I'd like to start an intimate relationship." Start there. Further clarification may be needed. Because it's 2020, and you guys have brought this upon yourselves.
I am very shy and still dont understand why so many girls want to wait for "Mr.Right". They even dont look under the surface (Im neither tall nor pretty). Girls Dreamboy is a hot, muscular, romantic, nice guy "Ryan Reynolds". -> Too much romantic movies tbh. If you are a average man, you are screwd by default. It doesnt care who you are on the inside. There is no true love, its just a game of teasing and attention on both sides. Thats just fckd up.
I have noticed that all over UA-cam women advise other women to be direct rather than drop hints. BUT; when they try to demonstrate, THEY STILL DROP HINTS! Granted these hints would be taken by any neurotypical man. But I’m not neurotypical! I’m neurodivergent! More women have dropped hints that (I guess) they thought were obvious. But they weren’t. Not to me! Come up to me and say “You caught my attention because (… reason…). Would you like to go out with me some time?” Then please be patient while my brain catches up. … It’s probably premature to mention this yet, but the same goes for “taking it to the next level”. … And btw I’d recommend listening to this speaker. At least 90% of what she’s saying I know from personal experiences are valid for me. I suppose her sample-size is a lot bigger than mine! So I’d bet everything she says here is right!
I can approach and initiate but she need to give clear signals that she wants me. Sometimes girls act so cold and close. And i don’t wanna approach them.
Hey Hayley, do you still do/teach Daygame or is that out the window now? You know what happened to all the crew from Daygame dot com; what are they up to now?
Despite the title of the video ''women should make the first move'' all i can hear Hayley saying, is that women should NOT make the first move, but only leave the right signals for the men to make the first move. This video is completely rubbish, all i can say.
🎼Where have ALL the cowboys goooooone!🎤🤠🐎 Rick Grimes: Flew away to unknown location... Joel Miller: Recently unfortunately dead by vengeful women. Arthur Morgan: Died peacefully atop a mountain due to tuberculosis. So yeah, that's where all the cowboys gone😪
Real advice: No. You don't have to be "coy" or "subtle" or "feminine". "Me want peepee" will work 95% of the time. Say anything, be blunt, be extremely straightforward, be cartoonishly explicit.
As a guy, let me point something out, women like confidence in a man, more than almost anything. Also, it takes a lot of confidence for a man to make the first move. Finally, It takes incredible confidence to make the first move on a drop dead gorgeous woman. I liked women to make the first move, but women liked it better, if I made the first move, because it shows confidence.
Pretty much disagree. We're not living in the stone ages any longer. Both sexes are able to make a move comfortably without any hassle. Our species used to work like that, but doesn't any longer. I've had several women approaching me and doing the job of getting the message across, showing interest and flirting, after which I engaged. Those were one of the most wonderful interactions I've had in my life and showed a sense of true equality. As a man, you can still show confidence, courageousness and decisiveness, even when being the one getting approached.
@@ZamoraksApprentice All of what you said is true, but, women still tend to let the man make the first move more often than they do. The reason, women value a man's confidence a lot, and want the man to show his confidence. Men do not value a woman's confidence as much as women tend to value a man's confidence. I also have had many relationships with women who made the first move, but, invariably I always had to answer her question, "In the night we first met, why did I have to make the first move?"
Ok, let's do a game: men will do the first move with all women that they want and being rejected by all women they approached, then you ladies come and you make the first move. What will be men's reaction? 1) they will say yes to you even if you're ugly as hell contenting theirselves 2) they will look at you badly because they are angry, embittered and soured for how many rejection they had in past or something that hurts them, and they reject you for revenge 3) they will ignore you and desappear and no longer want to have to do with women So, what's your answer?
4) A confident man who loves himself and is at peace in his heart no matter how crazy the turbulances in society are will be positively surprised and will give her a chance to present her personality and decide whether she meets his standards.
i doubt there will ever be a century or millenium in which this becomes normalized, more common, more than likely, forever, all eternity, it will always be expected of men to approach women and ask them out, make the move, etc., i don't see that ever changing
I made the first move to a man i liked via messenger, and today he is my boyfrind. So dont hold back!🥰
Love this! Thank you for sharing x
Did you also ask him out first?
@@nobodysperfect06 he did, she just expressed interest
My gf made the first move: “Hi, that’s interesting, tell me about such and such” is all you need to get started. It’s that easy. 6 months in and best relationship ever!
I assumed you had to be the one to ask her out
Yep. In my opinion, starting a conversation counts as making the first move. It's relatively low stakes and more so because women aren't expected to actually do the asking, so you can make a move without actually fully exposing yourself to rejection.
Girls want Guys to do all the Work!
Are the only girls without a relationship with men.
Ikr
A man is supposed to lead. As the head of the household. How you start a relationship matters. If you’re not leading now, how can you expect to have that leadership role in a marriage?
@@yarha599 A man is supposed to lead. As the head of the household. How you start a relationship matters. If you’re not leading now, how can you expect to have that leadership role in a marriage?
@@agfilmwriter469 hm, you gave me something to think about. But here’s the think it’s not so much leading that’s the problem. Women want you to chase them on a continuous bases. I said this before and I’ll say it again. I’m not up for an endless game of tag. If she wants me she will approach me and show me how interested she is. I’m a fair person if I know someone is interested I won’t play games. However, can we say the same for women?
Ladies, Please ask Me Out for Dinner.
If women mad the first move, it would be better for them. They would go after the man they wanted , instead of rolling the dice. My opinion
100% spot on! I talk to women all the time. When a girl makes a move on me first I always give her a chance.. Even if she wasn't a 10/10. She is now in my eyes. Respect.
Some years ago I was walking home from the supermarket when a girl stopped me and asked me out for a drink. She was attractive, 17 years younger than me (me 37, her 20) and was only in the UK for a few months but we made it work for about four years. We rented a flat in her country and my work was online so I was able to travel back and forth. It didn't work out in the end (different life stages mainly) but it was a good relationship. And all from her just coming over to say hi 🙂
She asked you out first as well? So she did more than just approach you?
@@nobodysperfect06 yep she gave me her number and suggested we go for a drink sometime. Amazingly forward really!
you must be a white male
@@MrSivram28 And good at writing fantasy novels 🙄😂
I’m excited to hear your thoughts on this, making the first move is a lot of pressure, but it shouldn’t be exclusively guys doing it!! I hope you have a phenomenal week Hayley 🥰💜
If a Lady asked me out. I may been Married by now.
Choose self-empowerment and learn to take the initiative. The guys over at The Natural Lifestyles can teach you how.
I've been single for 6 years now, the first years I never went anywhere as I was too shy/introvert to make the first move, but then I started changing things and asked guys out 4 times so far. It went well just once and we went out for a few months and he told he was really happy I contacted him. I don't do it with anyone, I must really like the guy and the more you do it, the easier it'll get, at least I know immediately if a guy is interested or not (if they are interested they'll be pleased and happy you made a move, if they judge they are stupid idiots not worth your time) and I don't waste my time wondering if he's into me or not. If he doesn't like me, well, fine, NEXT.
I LOVE THIS❤️❤️🥺 please i need the courage I'm too scared
As a shy man (and with anxiety) I can confirm you are absolutely right Hayley ☺ Thank you for making these videos, I Will try to be more brave and look after signals from women. I live in Norway, I gress most tings Apple in both UK and here, but the culture here is known for being even more introvert than most countries.
Autocorrect messed up...but I think you understood 😂
Nobody will be there for you.
Accept it
I saw this guy, my spirit said, he's your husband, so, I created several intermittent conversations with him. Then I went in with the gusto move. I said, " if I give you my number would you call me, he said, Yes!😁 I felt great! But, he has a friend. Is it, wrong to go any further? My heart, says, differently.
Thank you for sharing this, superb topic .. as a guy I would be extremely flattered and pleased if a woman hinted at any type of "first move" .. yes, it would be a win-win
and no matter who she might be .. or what social scenario
I would gladly and graciously accept her invitation for a coffee, lunch .. or even just to chat. Cheers .....
I’m basically the only one in my family who isn’t married or in a relationship. Men do not approach me at all and the ones that do ended up really hurting me in the end or just looking for a hookup. I have been single for four years and haven’t met anyone new at all. I start to think to myself that maybe I should make the first move, then I think about all the females that actually have someone telling me that the right man will find me and I have faced rejection before when I made the first move. Ugh idk anymore.
Here's a tip from a shy guy.. I only feel comfortable talking with women who first talk to me, I have insecurities about bothering women even though I get a lot of attention because I'm not used to it.. I find that just a greeting is more than enough and letting them know they can start a conversation with you, SHOULD DO IT ALONE... Now you put the power back on his lap meaning you let him know OF COURSE only if he is interested back, that ITS OK to converse with you and if he is shy then it will be a back and forth thing.. you don't want to approach someone that isn't interested in you because yeah that may lead to rejection.. just my tips as a shy guy here. I just had many signals from this nice girl cashier but she had a bf smh and kept looking at me and getting close to me and talked to me first instead of me, I didn't feel right talking to her so I just stopped after a few days, it was just basic simple talk nothing about each other or work, life etc.. but that let me know how slow I have been.. also no offense but just making eye contact and smiling isn't enough, every woman, young and old, single and married always makes eye contact with me and smiles, I don't think all are interested in me nor would I take it as a sign too and I'm always the first to break eye contact because it's honestly weird staring at someone so damn long and yes I do mean more than 3-5 seconds, they still keep staring at my eyes.. I also consider myself an average looking guy
I've had women very boldly approach when I wasn't even trying to get any attention! My big problem was when I was young I had piss poor social skills, low self esteem, distrust of women and either didn't understand what they were trying to do or did not trust them and was cold and rude to make them get away from me. In the last few years - as I learned these social skills - I've had them do it even though I'm wearing a wedding band. I'd let them know that I'm married and nothing is going to happen but I'm happy to make a new friend.
Great and important topic Hayley! All women should see and realize this. Men are irresolute and even afraid to make a move in these days after #MeToo.
100% agree.
Listen closely women.
You have made it impossible for any man to approach a female.
The very real threat of being falsely accused of sexual harassment and other legal ramifications makes it impossible for a man to make any sort of approach to a woman.
It also makes it difficult for the man to initiate touching a woman in the early dating period.
You basically put men in a straight jacket. And since you’ve done this there is only one option. It is up to the woman to make all the first moves.
Thanks for this video.
As a man it's letting me know that I personally have been not taking advantage of some of the opportunities women have been presenting.
I appreciate that you teach this to women and create a paradigm shift (them being an opportunity creator). Thanks for doing this and your phenomenal speech at the MMC 2019.
Great video. I love what you're doing. You're spot on with all of these points.
Women..
As a man 30yo, i had a slightly older coworker leave me a note on my car about 2 weeks ago. Had been single af atleast like 6 years, at first it was like i saw a UFO land infront of me. Total Shock. I decided to go out with her even tho i had reservations at first, and after 3 dates
Im pretty sure she put a spell on me by taking initiative.
Never had a relationship i wasnt responsible for initiating before, and now this woman has my interest like no other woman has because i know shes truly interested
Most dates guys will ever have feel like a job trying to impress or convince the woman youre good enough for her time, those connections will go nowhere
Imagine going on a date where they are already interested in you and its not a game of "impress me"
Too good to be true right? Guys are THAT simple
Hope it works out for us, I already know it will take every bit of 30 years for me to find a woman like this again
I dont approach women anymore my attitude is if a woman really really likes me she'll approach me and if she doesn't she couldn't of been that into me if she doesn't make the effort.
I agree.
So actually even encouraging women to approach men, ask them out first?
Women... If it feels right then Approach the Man!
Don't let limiting beliefs hold you back!
OMG "eye contact" and "asking him to take a photo of you and your friends" are NOWHERE NEAR "crystal clear" signals. "I'm attracted to you sexually, and I'd like to start an intimate relationship." Start there. Further clarification may be needed. Because it's 2020, and you guys have brought this upon yourselves.
I am very shy and still dont understand why so many girls want to wait for "Mr.Right". They even dont look under the surface (Im neither tall nor pretty). Girls Dreamboy is a hot, muscular, romantic, nice guy "Ryan Reynolds". -> Too much romantic movies tbh.
If you are a average man, you are screwd by default. It doesnt care who you are on the inside.
There is no true love, its just a game of teasing and attention on both sides. Thats just fckd up.
Rigged game is a shitty game. Best way to win is to not play.
I have noticed that all over UA-cam women advise other women to be direct rather than drop hints.
BUT; when they try to demonstrate, THEY STILL DROP HINTS!
Granted these hints would be taken by any neurotypical man.
But I’m not neurotypical! I’m neurodivergent!
More women have dropped hints that (I guess) they thought were obvious. But they weren’t. Not to me!
Come up to me and say “You caught my attention because (… reason…). Would you like to go out with me some time?”
Then please be patient while my brain catches up.
…
It’s probably premature to mention this yet, but the same goes for “taking it to the next level”.
…
And btw I’d recommend listening to this speaker. At least 90% of what she’s saying I know from personal experiences are valid for me.
I suppose her sample-size is a lot bigger than mine! So I’d bet everything she says here is right!
Hayley..Boris Johnson should make you his UK Relationship advisor.
Men/boys debated whether to send it or not then realizing texting this to her is basically making the first move
I can approach and initiate but she need to give clear signals that she wants me. Sometimes girls act so cold and close. And i don’t wanna approach them.
Hello dear....what about on a dating site
Hey Hayley, do you still do/teach Daygame or is that out the window now? You know what happened to all the crew from Daygame dot com; what are they up to now?
do you know 90% of success rate is there when a women make the first move and 29.5% when man make first move
No, a man making the first move has below 3% success rate.
Despite the title of the video ''women should make the first move'' all i can hear Hayley saying, is that women should NOT make the first move, but only leave the right signals for the men to make the first move. This video is completely rubbish, all i can say.
They won't
They will
🎼Where have ALL the cowboys goooooone!🎤🤠🐎
Rick Grimes:
Flew away to unknown location...
Joel Miller:
Recently unfortunately dead by vengeful women.
Arthur Morgan:
Died peacefully atop a mountain due to tuberculosis.
So yeah, that's where all the cowboys gone😪
2 years and less than 10,000 views, that makes sense.
Keep pushing that Disney narrative. 🙏
The #MeToo changed the dating world!
Real advice: No. You don't have to be "coy" or "subtle" or "feminine". "Me want peepee" will work 95% of the time. Say anything, be blunt, be extremely straightforward, be cartoonishly explicit.
Sorry but reason #5 sounds like hes settling for you🤷
As a guy, let me point something out, women like confidence in a man, more than almost anything.
Also, it takes a lot of confidence for a man to make the first move.
Finally, It takes incredible confidence to make the first move on a drop dead gorgeous woman.
I liked women to make the first move,
but women liked it better, if I made the first move, because it shows confidence.
Confidence is gained over time through experience. Aka trial and error.
Pretty much disagree. We're not living in the stone ages any longer. Both sexes are able to make a move comfortably without any hassle.
Our species used to work like that, but doesn't any longer. I've had several women approaching me and doing the job of getting the message across, showing interest and flirting, after which I engaged.
Those were one of the most wonderful interactions I've had in my life and showed a sense of true equality.
As a man, you can still show confidence, courageousness and decisiveness, even when being the one getting approached.
@@ZamoraksApprentice All of what you said is true, but, women still tend to let the man make the first move more often than they do. The reason, women value a man's confidence a lot, and want the man to show his confidence. Men do not value a woman's confidence as much as women tend to value a man's confidence.
I also have had many relationships with women who made the first move, but, invariably I always had to answer her question, "In the night we first met, why did I have to make the first move?"
Personality is a code word for good looking face. And confidence is a code word for height.
I think I love you.
Ok, let's do a game: men will do the first move with all women that they want and being rejected by all women they approached, then you ladies come and you make the first move. What will be men's reaction?
1) they will say yes to you even if you're ugly as hell contenting theirselves
2) they will look at you badly because they are angry, embittered and soured for how many rejection they had in past or something that hurts them, and they reject you for revenge
3) they will ignore you and desappear and no longer want to have to do with women
So, what's your answer?
4) A confident man who loves himself and is at peace in his heart no matter how crazy the turbulances in society are will be positively surprised and will give her a chance to present her personality and decide whether she meets his standards.
@@Xatex18 no, i don't think so.
Hayley, you look like my future wife.😍
i doubt there will ever be a century or millenium in which this becomes normalized, more common, more than likely, forever, all eternity, it will always be expected of men to approach women and ask them out, make the move, etc., i don't see that ever changing
Wrongggggg never do the first move. Never lol
Why are you against that?
What made you belief that may be wrong?