Malaysia Protests Against Philippines' Extended Continental Shelf Claim Over Sabah
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- The recent submission by the Philippines to the United Nations to recognize the extent of its undersea continental shelf has reignited the longstanding territorial dispute over Sabah with Malaysia. Malaysia, which has never recognized the Philippines' claim to Sabah, formally opposed the submission, asserting that it projects from the baselines of Sabah, a region Malaysia considers an integral part of its territory since the formation of the Federation of Malaysia in 1963. China's earlier protest against the Philippines' claim further complicates the matter, highlighting the regional and international dimensions of the dispute. Malaysia's rejection emphasizes its sovereignty over Sabah, asserting that the Philippines' claim lacks any basis under international law and conflicts with the self-determination exercised by the people of Sabah. Meanwhile, the Philippines' efforts to secure its maritime interests in the South China Sea, bolstered by extensive scientific research and legal backing from UNCLOS, reflect its commitment to asserting its territorial claims. The Philippines' move has broader implications, reinforcing its maritime entitlements confirmed by the 2016 South China Sea arbitration award. As regional players like China closely monitor these developments, the need for peaceful dialogue and adherence to international law becomes paramount in resolving such complex territorial disputes. Like, comment, and subscribe for more in-depth coverage of global economies and geopolitics. Watch complete video and do not forget to visit our channel for more interesting videos.
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0:00 Malaysia’s Protest Against Philippines’ Extended Continental Shelf Over Sabah
1:19 Malaysia's Rejection of the Philippines' Submission
2:44 The Philippines' Submission and Its Implications
3:22 Understanding the Extended Continental Shelf
4:15 The Philippines' Efforts and Legal Basis
5:43 Regional and International Reactions
6:39 Conclusion
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Is Sabah Filipino or Malaysian?
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do you breath oxygen?
No, Sabah are from Mars Or Jupiter
Sabah belongs to Philippines and nothing else
Sabah is belong to philipin.Only if sabah resolve the migrant issue for almost 1 million undocumented filipino born sabah for almost 50 years living in limbo.
😂😂😂@@Pilax-TT32
Government of Philippines not recognised Sulu Sultanate ,,so how come Philippines want to claim Sabah,,its ridiculous...
Bro are you pro Malaysia, dude Malaysia stole Sabah with help uk
@@user-gd4ii6yf7btrue
@@user-gd4ii6yf7b bullshit pinoy
They just want oil & gases. They don't care about the ordinary people. They only care about their pockets and maybe their owners (usa) command their dogs (pinoy gov) to claim sabah so usa can take sabah o&g too.
@@user-gd4ii6yf7bwhatchu gonna do with sabah ? Import poverty and pagpag ? Bring ur women here
Bah! This Sabah thing again! Been hearing about it since I was a kid in the 80s. As a Filipino and as far as I'm concerned, let Sabah be. Let the people of Sabah decide their own destiny. After all, if its about national interests and resources ( oil and gas ) to be exploited, we all know the common man whether Filipino, Malaysian or Sabahan does not benefit. It's the corporations and the politicians who benefit, so I'm not going to get all emotional and patriotic over it. It's pointless and at the end of the day, we're all cousines ( more or less ) along with Indonesia.
Someone gets it. And as a Filipino too, its well said, my guy.
And also, the comment section in this video shows how many Filipinos are, no offense, uneducated in issues like these. Leading them to find other sources like the Internet. You and I both know that the Internet is messed up one way or the other. I just hope that Filipinos have decent education so they can learn about things like these on a much deeper level than what Google has to offer.
In short, kids need to pay attention to AP nowadays.
Im not like other Filipino kids. Welp, have a good day. Mabuhay
Let the squatters decide? They are free to leave
They had a vote on that before it was incorporated into Malaysia and Malaysia manipulated the votes and intimidated voters which is why it’s Malaysia now.
Finally a rational comment from a pinoy regarding sabah 😊
Philipines is day dreaming because Sabah has Oil and Gas. If US is not establishing bases in Philipines, this issues will not comes out.
The Philippines also has oil and gas, and gold and other rare minerals. I personally don't give a shit who owns Sabah, but I'm glad it's Malaysia and not us because my country has problems of its own and we're trying to get to the next level, and Sabah is just a headache that Malaysia wanted.
you are not actually answering the issue at hand.
@sapemusical you're saying that the philippines has no chance against your army without US? remember lahad datu? 200 civilians against 6500 elite forces took you 1 month and 13 days. I think it's you that is daydreaming. Weak army with no experience. Malaysia (rank#42) is not as strong as you'd like to think, and we have decades ahead with experience and ranked #34. This issue has been going on for decades, nothing new, so you're talking out of your ignorant brown hole. You arrogant ppl are lucky we like to keep the peace. so you're welcome.
Because the Americans knew who defeated the Sultanate of Sulu. It was not any European colonizers. The Sultanate of Sulu ceded its domains including North Borneo to the American government of the Philippine Islands at the conclusion of Moro-US War which ended in 1913. The successor state of the Sultanate of Sulu was the American government of the Philippine Islands. From the American government of the Philippine Islands to the Republic of the Philippines in 1946.
@@sapemusical this issue was already shown in decades long claim lol i think you are young enough not to have come across world history
The people of Sabah, the natives will never be part of Philippines. They have rights, they are not slaves or objects that can be gifted, if the natives of Sabah chose to be with Malaysia, then let it be. If Philippines is allowed to do so, then it would be unfair to many countries.
Malaysia should claim Palawan then.
Sabah is better off in Malaysia. Sabah will just be another slum or american military base under Philippines.
Its slum already
Malaydesh still third world country and they pretend they are rich hahaha come on malaydesh
You people there just to Malaysia land
@@jerwinjose6182 Cant be as bad as the Philippines, 20 million people starving,
@@philmcleod111be thankful of your government, they are paying for your nursing home. Please don’t forget to drink your vitamins or your psa will rise up. 😂
muslim brother and sister from Mindanao, did not forget that you are from malay ancestors. this disputed is not necessary.
Sabah people choose to be with Malaysia. Get over it
because Malaysians flocked Sabah, Britain gave it to Malaysia instead of giving it to the Sultunate of Sulu which are the rightful owners
@@zageous nonsense. Sabah has its own sovereignty even though it joins Malaysia. You are too poorly educated to be in this discussion.
@@zageous. Wrong. Brunei strongly denied they have ceded sabah to sulu in the first place.
@@Wakedane Malaysia was paying cession annually to the Sulu Sultunate until 2013 when Sulu militants attacked Sabah violating the payment agreement. Paying by cession means it IS ceded to Sulu, Malaysia wouldn’t pay Sulu cessions if it’s not ceded in the first place.
It is a goodwill token for god sake. We stop giving since 2013 and You brought it to courts and lost in all judgement, didnt it tells you anything? It-is-not-obligatory
THE CLAIM OF SABAH IS NOT RELATED TO CONTINENTAL SHELF DONT DISTORT THE FACTS.THE CLAIM OF SABAH IS ABOUT THE HEIR OF SULTANATE OF SULU THAT REALLY OWNS IT BY HELPING BRUNEI LONG LONG TIME AGO AND AS A GESTURE OF HELPING THEM OUT THEY GIFTED THE SULTANATE OF SULU WITH BRUNEI.
you are missing the point, the continental shelf belong to sabah, if sabah does not belong to philippine, philippine cannot claim sabah's continental shelf, it would belong to sabah.
Yes, the Sulu is previously own Sabah, but recent history of the British Empire to control this area null & void these claim. If Sabah return to the Sulu, so does all the world history where British touch such as China claim to Arunachal Pradesh, Mexico claim to New Mexico, California, Texas and actually the world history need to be define. The whole white population of North & South America should go back to Europe. Hawaii, Guam, Diego Gracia etc etc
@@Ghe480they are paying rent
@@insulareshdxo9454 Where is the agreement?
Self claim is already past is due. Ph can't take it away from Malaysia anymore unless you declare to invade it. That's real talk and the truth.
philippines facing huge conflict against china and its unresolved, then here we are trying to bite another neighbors because they are small country like us, is this support/deal by the US - PH government in exchange to agree batling with china? let's not forget our claim in sabah is through the sultanate of sulu which is muslim, do we respect the muslim in philippines? i'm not sure with that. muslim filipino are being discriminate.
As a Filipino I dont want SABAH to be part of Philippines 😂
We want Mindanao separate to Philippines 😂
@@batangpasawaytv2119 True laking taka ko bakit ngayon pa umaksyon ang gobyerno natin patungkol sa sabah eh part nayan ng malaysia.
@@batangpasawaytv2119 traydor! 😂😂😂 kapag nagka gera ipunta namin kayo sa harapan. Para tangal na yung mga data sa pinas. 😂
Kayo nlang punta sa malaysia para masaya.
@@fatimafaris3544 Mahirap ang buhay sa pinas lalo na walang pangako maibibigay ang gobyerno sa atin._.
@@thumbnail5518 but kna nmang aasa sa govt.kayod tayo huwag e asa khit knino kpalaran nting dios meo.
If sabah belongs to the Philippines, then brunei can claim the entirety of Philippines.
Sabah is Philippine territory.
The thing is, there are documents proving that the sabah were owned by the sultanate of sulu. It was the british mistranslation who are causing these issues.
ok🤣🤣🤣
@@imdark4975which document? 1878? Do you know there is other document signed by sulu and BNBC in 1903, which confirming the Padjak as Serah = surrender, hand over. Try googling 1903 treaty and menyerahkan or serah means 😊
@@Wakedane Lol, it was already proven that it was a mistranslation. If they sold it then why are they paying rent? And why cant malaysia take it to any international court and win the case already?
I am a Filipino, and Sabah belongs to the People who are living there. All we want is Peace towards every country around the World. Let the international Law be in Peacful talks
Sabah belong to Malaysia
@dzbosch1221
PH does it in accordance with international law. Let's all nations abide and adhere to the rule of law. PH abides and adheres to the rule of law. What peaceful can it get?
Nah we don't want Pag pag to be in our menu.
@@kevinreyimperial722only vcery poor lazy filipino eat pagpag only but those who are industrious wont eat pagpag ever.we plant veggies,rice corn,root crops to eat and very healthy🥰😍
sabah is not for malaysia or the philippines it is for the original people living there..
The only thing we want there is to get the oils there, not to establish government, schools, and courts.
Cry, keyboard warriors can't do anything in reality
facts i see sabah he's not develop he only milking malaysian goverment knows the real situation in sanah
@@MilpKdken have you ever come here? Did you forget southern Philippines came illegally to sabah because of higher wages compare to your country?
Every Sabah people want Sabah to be part of Malaysia..don't want Philippines..Sabah people can speak Malay..not Philippines language
you can take sabah people back in malaysia and leave borneo
@@jonzkiecopy4267so you are committing ethnic cleansing.
Yet Malaysia ignores the poverty of Sabah
@@Elliah_Leafie I just can’t accept the audacity of wanting a piece of land claiming that the land is yours and displacing the natives of that land from their own heritage homeland. That’s crazy.
Long before Malaysia has a Respect on Sultanates in every state they have...but who is the Sultan of Sabah or the reàl hiers?
I'm a Filipino and for me, there's no need to reclaim Sabah. Yeah, it's ours historically but the people in Sabah want to keep themselves as a part of Malaysia and Malaysians themselves. This dispute was comparable to China and Taiwan. We all know that Taiwan was always been part of China (West Taiwan) historically. But Taiwan don't want to be part of China so its the same logic for the people Sabah. And one more thing was, Malaysia has a federal government unlike the PH, meaning if the PH reclaimed Sabah, the resources from Sabah will likely to be concentrated to the mainland Luzon. It's evident on the situation of Visayas especially Mindanao.
@@Noyaaaaaaaaaaa sabah is under the rule of Sultanate of Sulo//Brunie and Sultanate of Sulo are brothers blood related cousin//Brunie and Sulo empire was deeply attack by european/ terrorize the so called conquerors bucanners pirates//the Sulo king did not abandon Sabah/the succes of the conquest //the king reduce his power//written documents lease sabah from Sulo sultanate and pay // malaysia was under the rule of british empire//and this malaysia claiming ownership of Sabah//there fooling Sabah people//understand
it is manipulated COBBOLD COMMISSION BY BRITISH & MALAYSIA no plebiscite held... THEY ARE LIARS... YOU SHOULD NOT RECOGNIZED MALAYSIA pakyooo
nobody care what Filipino think
@@rogerkaii233 Well, I said my point. No need to show a typical Malaysian attitude.
@@Noyaaaaaaaaaaa a chinese.pilipino or malaysian.xhinese same thinking
Philippines don't actually focus on sabah but the eez.
We focus on what we want. You be quiet
@@filoboi3256 no, you.
@@laplue don't be late on your rent
Are you sure 'bout that?
@@filoboi3256 You mean the "rent" that cause this?
"In June 2023, Malaysia secured landmark victories in the Paris Court of Appeal and the Hague Court of Appeal, demonstrating the fundamentally flawed nature of the Sulu claim and a clear step towards the collapse of the case." ?
Wahh wahhh Malaysia stole Sabah from the Philippines wahh wahhh We want it back because of their natural resources wahh wahhh who cares about the thr actual residents there wahhh wahhh we'll kick them out wahhh wahhh
"Sabah (including Eastern Sabah) exercised their right to self-determination when they joined to form the Malaysian federation in 1963"
They can protest. But the truth cannot be denied.
Cession
"Sabah (including Eastern Sabah) exercised their right to self-determination when they joined to form the Malaysian federation in 1963"
Proof
"In June 2023, Malaysia secured landmark victories in the Paris Court of Appeal and the Hague Court of Appeal, demonstrating the fundamentally flawed nature of the Sulu claim and a clear step towards the collapse of the case."
Now, you'll whine on how the International Court is unfair 😂 absolutely bollocks 🙌
@@ZeonixMYwhy ur crying 😂
Sabah choose to be independent by being part of Malaysia back then. Its a well written documents and history. This claim will be as good as Brunei trying to claim Philippines as theirs.
@@backpackpepelon3867 yeah, maybe Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah could file a claim for Philippines 😂
You Filipinos invaded Sabah and caused the demise of 71 people in 2013
And they don’t even understand the history of your own country and the historical claim you have on Sabah
The money the Malaysians pay you every year, they say it’s for the “sale” of Sabah
You Filipinos call the money they pay you every year, money for the “rental” of Sabah
Which In my opinion I agree it’s a rental and you Filipinos are the actual owners of Sabah, not Malaysia
BUT
arguing “sale” or “rental” it does not matter
The Malays have the right to pay you 5000 Malaysian Ringgit every year in perpetuity
Meaning they can pay you for ever and ever and ever for the “sale”or “rental” of Sabah 👈whatever you want to call it
Certainly does not give you the right to invade them
Time to learn the historical facts about your own country
Also there is that issue of you Filipinos unilaterally bringing forth a proximity claim on those disputed islands you have with China
Where you went to that ICJ tribunal in 2016 dismissing historical claims.
While only accepting a recent 1971 proximity claim you Filipinos made on those disputed islands you have with China
So with your very own proximity claim logic
Sabah belongs to Malaysia, along with a few islands, and like half of Palawan you Filipinos now control, that are closer to Malaysia, that you no doubt bullied from Malaysia in the past
This continental shelf claim is only valid if you Filipino believe in a historical claim
for Malaysia and the Philippines, resolve the issue at the International Tribune for the Law of the Sea -- a challenge to Malaysia for a peaceful solution. For China, there is no territorial disputes or legal basis for your claims, your country is toooooo faaaaar from the Philippines.
Philippenis already lost the case at ICJ before.. after that they start invading Sabah and lost the war.. Philippenis is just another countries that being run by terrorist..
So is Guan why does the US have a military base there ?
@@lindagonzalez5513because we want it... ❤ Hahah..even your comments has no sense...
Dah... 😂
Yes how about HAWAII
😂😂😂😂😂
@@lindagonzalez5513 why> does guam wants to be malaysian? keep dreaming🤣
Someone is instigating and Marcos as usual is stupid
Stop assuming that you know what Sabahans/Borneo people want.
The real issue that needs to be addressed is whether Sabahans want to be Malaysians, Filipinos, or independent.
To the Philippine government, you can’t just arbitrarily annex or claim Sabah without the consent of us who live here.
And yes, thanks to the Philippine, we have enough military bases that can be accessed by the g€nocidal US Empire. So, we don’t need another one in Sabah.
Sabah
Kalimantan
Jagan di samakan😂😂
Because Sabah was occupied by Malaysian people So that why they want to be part of Malaysian.........
@@kiala-an7362lol, your government know that this will happen so they encourage Malaysian people to occupy the land more 😂
"If I don’t steal your home, someone else will steal it" - Fat Jacob East Jerusalem 2021
Hahahah even the philipines illegal immigrants here prefer malaysia or sabah and they display the malaysia flag on their rumah setinggan (makeshift house). And philipines really wanna take sabah? No way
Sabah is part of the Philippines! The idiot british empire just surrender it to the malaysia instead in the PH without consent of the Philippines.
Aku puas hati bila PH kena karma. Kapal2 PH kena sembur oleh kapal china dan selalu kena kacau oleh china. Padan muka PH.
Most of the pinoys bcome pelacur here. A walking touch & go😂
@@COMMANDOx76 kasi nga huhulihin ng autoridad
Those are running away from the law .. in short fugitives!! 🙄🙄
It is hypocritical for China to say that the Filipino claim is not only bilateral but involves other countries as well. They are doing the same thing but illegitimately and on a larger scale and affecting more nations than the legitimate claim of the Philippines. Wonder why Malaysia has to raise a hue and cry when China does the same but remain silent when China does something similar to her.
The SCS islands belong to China. That is very clear to all except to a small number of ignorants.
You Filipinos invaded Sabah and caused the demise of 71 people in 2013
And you don’t even understand the history of your own country and the historical claim you have on Sabah
The money the Malaysians pay you every year, they say it’s for the “sale” of Sabah
You Filipinos call the money they pay you every year, money for the “rental” of Sabah
Which In my opinion I agree it’s a rental and you Filipinos are the actual owners of Sabah, not Malaysia
BUT
arguing “sale” or “rental” it does not matter
The Malays have the right to pay you 5000 Malaysian Ringgit every year in perpetuity
Meaning they can pay you for ever and ever and ever for the “sale”or “rental” of Sabah 👈whatever you want to call it
Certainly does not give you the right to invade them
Time to learn the historical facts about your own country
Also there is that issue of you Filipinos unilaterally bringing forth a proximity claim on those disputed islands you have with China
Where you went to that ICJ tribunal in 2016 dismissing historical claims.
While only accepting a recent 1971 proximity claim you Filipinos made on those disputed islands you have with China
So with your very own proximity claim logic
Sabah belongs to Malaysia, along with a few islands, and like half of Palawan you Filipinos now control, that are closer to Malaysia, that you no doubt bullied from Malaysia in the past
This continental shelf claim is only valid if you Filipino believe in a historical claim
Agree
@@arieltellis458 Malaysia knows that the islands belong to China. Philippines know that too but being instructed by US to cause trouble.
@@Jin-oq2quwhat's your basis?
1. Sabah chose to Join Malaysia.
2. I can accept Sabah returns back to BRUNEI. Apparently, the Sulu didn't honor the agreement yet claiming the 'promised' reward, which in turn, Brunei rejects it.
3. Yes, British side paid to Sulu, which later Malaysia simply continued, but that doesn't mean the deal proves it belongs to Sulu. British was a horror to the world, and they always support their enemy's enemy to saw discord. This could be one of them. British probably wants the whole Philipine by pretending to support Sulu baseless claim, which again, denied by Brunei.
1. sabah choose to form and not join malaysia
2. there is no such thing as return to brunei.
3. it is american who make the agreement. not british. they sign the agreement as protection from pirates which a problem for trading.
brunei or sulu has no reign on sabah. so, phi claim on sabah is nothing but greedy attempt to expand their greedy ambition and mess up another peaceful region as they did to southerrn sulu region.
The British already moved on about Sabah. The Sulu did bring the issue to the UK court. Guess what the UK court says? Please go to Sabah court.
I'll be advocating Sulu Sultanate independence and reclaiming all it's territory taken from Philippines rules and then Malaysia invite the new Sultan of Sulu to join the Malaysian Federation as the 14th state of Malaysia with reserve seats of Yang dipertuan Agong and Council of Kings. That way instead of Philipine getting Sabah, it's Sabahan will get their new Sultan so they can proudly be part of the Royal state in Malaysia and expand all Malaysian territory into southern Philippines.
agree... maybe we should ask sulu... if they want to stay under phillipine or join malaysia... if they want join malaysia, they can enjoy higher development, currency, free health and education, and stronger passport, they should join malaysia and say good bye to philippines. will phillipines let go of that sulu islands territories? malaysia can take care of them better than the Phillipines government. Plus, they are sunni muslims, and they have sultan, just like malaysia federations, they will be welcomed warmly by malaysians because of the similarities. maybe we should do poll to see if they want to join malaysia instead, because sabahans clearly does not to join phillipines.
I’m sorry but as a Sabahan, i never wish to be part of Philippines 💀 Please stop claiming our state as part of your corrupted country. No offense 😀
Lol
Nah it's ours
-Some random British guy
ANOTHER FAKE SABAHAN 🤣🤣🤣 ANYWAY WE DONT NEED SABAH PEOPLE WE NEED SABAH NORTH BORNEO IF YOU DONT WANT GO GO BACK TO MAINLAND MALAYSIA 🤣🤣
ANOTHER FAKE SABAHAN 🤣🤣🤣 ANYWAY WE DONT NEED SABAH PEOPLE WE NEED SABAH NORTH BORNEO IF YOU DONT WANT GO GO BACK TO MAINLAND MALAYSIA 🤣🤣
This is true, it's also extremely obvious they just want Sabah for it's natural resources and don't care for the ethnic groups who have lived there for thousands of years before these countries even existed
Malaysia always claim everything in South East asia including some part of Indonesia but Malaysia doesn't exist before 🤣🤣🤣
Yes it was called TANAH MELAYU OR THE GOLDEN LAND
@@Dx_Heartedwhat's that 😂
@@emmansilva1310 its Malaysia Indonesia and Singapore when the british and portugese invade these country.
Tanah Melayu means a land riches with nature and material
Basically malaysian claim every part of south east asia is ALAM MELAYU which means MELAYU UNIVERSE .😂😂😂
@@camelred9118 then come the British
Philippine is in big trouble now! Keep creating problems with it neighbour!
Philippines claiming whats really for the philippines, and mlaysia just born alot of malay in sabah to make sure its from malaysia hahahah
@@princekim4171shut up slum boi
Agree
@@princekim4171
You Filipinos invaded Sabah and caused the demise of 71 people in 2013
And you don’t even understand the history of your own country and the historical claim you have on Sabah
The money the Malaysians pay you every year, they say it’s for the “sale” of Sabah
You Filipinos call the money they pay you every year, money for the “rental” of Sabah
Which In my opinion I agree it’s a rental and you Filipinos are the actual owners of Sabah, not Malaysia
BUT
arguing “sale” or “rental” it does not matter
The Malays have the right to pay you 5000 Malaysian Ringgit every year in perpetuity
Meaning they can pay you for ever and ever and ever for the “sale”or “rental” of Sabah 👈whatever you want to call it
Certainly does not give you the right to invade them
Time to learn the historical facts about your own country
Also there is that issue of you Filipinos unilaterally bringing forth a proximity claim on those disputed islands you have with China
Where you went to that ICJ tribunal in 2016 dismissing historical claims.
While only accepting a recent 1971 proximity claim you Filipinos made on those disputed islands you have with China
So with your very own proximity claim logic
Sabah belongs to Malaysia, along with a few islands, and like half of Palawan you Filipinos now control, that are closer to Malaysia, that you no doubt bullied from Malaysia in the past
This continental shelf claim is only valid if you Filipino believe in a historical claim
@@princekim4171 Sabahans are not malays in athenic. Sabahan themselves wanted to join malaysia🇲🇾❤
*Please develope Mindano & other's island first to claim Sabah a lot of immigrants come work to Sabah Malaysia 😅😅😅*
Malaysia already helped Mindanao by arming Abu Sayaf and MNLF.
Blud Davao city is developing fast Philippines GDP is bigger than Malaysia itself even Vietnam already surpassed your country
exactly. they can't even take care their southern sulu region and now they want to destroy sabah. this is stoooopid move.
@@jefferi78 we can take care that region fun fact Abu sayaff is already long gone
@@jefferi78 and most bombers in the Philippines are Malaysians
No need to fight , sabah belongs to China
Sabah belongs to the Philippines in its entirety and that is a fact.!!
Mabuhay 🇵🇭 💪
What is your evidence?
Sabah don't deserve a dumb last generation of the Sulu Sultanate that sell their land, their deal with british is the most dumb deal ever, what the hell is "as long as the moon and star exist" kind of deal they done? later they sell again their land to become Republic to Manila. Spanish can't conquer them fully for hundreds of years, but a Manila snake oil salesman can fooled them to join Philippines?
Speak to my ass
Euww no one in sabah want to be poor like philipine😂
@@Mig-31K we Malaysian don't want have a president pushing their citizens to died for the USA and western imperialism and hegemony which slaughter million innocent population , starve million children and destroy million families for oil's and resources in the name of protecting and defending democratic freedom and human right.
This is a really a devil 😈 nation dancing with those white hegemony and western
Part of saba is own by the sultanate of sulo and not by the Philippines ?
As of now hiers of the sultanates is still being rented the saba to Malaysia.
Sulo is part of the Philippines.
@@nonameyet1113the case is between Sabah and Sulu sultan. Philippines the country is a third party, however I think the sultan of sulu or one of the heirs appointed the Philippines as their successor state and that’s how they got in the picture not because sulu is in the Philippines. It’s a “royal” thing.
I wonder how many of the millions of Sabah people would want to change their passport from Malaysia to the Philippines.
I just checked, holders of Malaysian passport could enter 182 countries without needing a visa whereas PH passport has only 69 countries to enter visa free.
It's quite comical to say the least. 🤣
@@user-pt1rw4sx6t I am not sure about that. But looking at the numbers, Sabah in general is more prosperous than PH.
@@user-pt1rw4sx6t PH can give a million good and legitimate reasons but Sabah has been part of Malaysia for more than 60 years and there is no real possibility that PH can get back Sabah. Just like USA was once belonged to native Americans, but they can't get back USA as theirs .
@@user-pt1rw4sx6t ooppsss. On the whole PH is poorer than Sabah, despite having vast resources. Sabah is poor but PH is poorer.
No need just get out there, go main land country Malaysia sabah not belong to malay
Because sabah is originally Philippines territories
Pehin Jamil Umar writing in his book, Tarsilah Brunei II: Period of Splendour and Fame (2007), countered all of the above. Pehin Jamil did not deny the fact that the Sulus were invited and promised the northern Brunei territory by Sultan Muhydin if they helped him win the civil war against Sultan Abdul Mubin.
However, during the battle for Pulau Cermin, the Sulu forces who were supposed to attack the island from Pulau Keingaran and from the sea, did not do so. They were terrified by the resistance of Sultan Abdul Mubin's forces in Pulau Cermin. It was only after Sultan Muhydin had won the battle did the Sulu forces landed and took the opportunity to seize a number of war booties.
According to Pehin Jamil, Sultan Muhydin refused to cede the territories claimed by Sulu. Pehin Jamil noted that the area was only "claimed" and not "ceded", as Sir Stamford Raffles, in his book "History of Java" (1830), had noted "on the north-east of Borneo proper (Brunei) lies a very considerable territory (Sabah), the sovereignty of which has long been claimed by Sulu Government".
Pehin Jamil further noted that according to the oral tradition, Sulu continued to press their claim. In 1775, one of their chiefs came to Brunei pretending to seek fresh water. What they really wanted was to seek an audience with the Sultan regarding Sabah. However, the Sultan ordered one of the chief wazirs to see them and he threatened that if they wanted to pursue their intention, he will kill them all. The Sulus immediately left. Despite that setback, the Sulus continue to maintain their claims.
The argument that Brunei has not ceded Sabah to Sulu is supported by LR Wright in her book The Origins of British Borneo (1970). She wrote: "indeed, the legitimacy of the Sulu claim to the territory (North Borneo) is in considerable doubt partly because of the unreliability of tarsilas such as 'Selesilah', which in many cases are nothing more than written-down legends to enhance the status of the royal house which produced them. Succeeding Sultans of Brunei have denied that northern Borneo was given to Sulu, and only the weight of Sulu tradition supports the claim. The weight of Brunei tradition challenges it"
Another interesting document is the British North Borneo Treaties Protocol of 1885 signed in Madrid, which is also known as the Madrid Protocol of 1885, a copy of which can be found on Sabah State Attorney General's website. It was signed by the British, Germany and Spain who was the predecessor government of the Philippines. The two most important articles are Article I British and Germany recognising the sovereignty of Spain over the Sulu Archipelago and Article III Spain relinquishing all claims to Borneo.
It was actually North Borneo (1879) under British North Borneo company, hench rent being paid by Malaysia 🇲🇾 to Sultanate of Sulu (Philippines)
The problem with Sulu/PH claims on Sabah is that there is no evidence of ownership. Brunei Sultanate (original owner) granted Sabah to BNBC on 20/12/1877. Meaning Sabah belongs to Brunei and is never given to Sulu. On 22/7/1878, the Sulu Sultanate relinquished all its territories and dependencies to Spain. Sulu has nothing. It just does not hold water in the court.
@@hopelope1703 Philippines should take care of its domestic issues rather than creating more issues with its peaceful neighbour
You Filipinos invaded Sabah and caused the demise of 71 people in 2013
And you don’t even understand the history of your own country and the historical claim you have on Sabah
The money the Malaysians pay you every year, they say it’s for the “sale” of Sabah
You Filipinos call the money they pay you every year, money for the “rental” of Sabah
Which In my opinion I agree it’s a rental and you Filipinos are the actual owners of Sabah, not Malaysia
BUT
arguing “sale” or “rental” it does not matter
The Malays have the right to pay you 5000 Malaysian Ringgit every year in perpetuity
Meaning they can pay you for ever and ever and ever for the “sale”or “rental” of Sabah 👈whatever you want to call it
Certainly does not give you the right to invade them
Time to learn the historical facts about your own country
Also there is that issue of you Filipinos unilaterally bringing forth a proximity claim on those disputed islands you have with China
Where you went to that ICJ tribunal in 2016 dismissing historical claims.
While only accepting a recent 1971 proximity claim you Filipinos made on those disputed islands you have with China
So with your very own proximity claim logic
Sabah belongs to Malaysia, along with a few islands, and like half of Palawan you Filipinos now control, that are closer to Malaysia, that you no doubt bullied from Malaysia in the past
This continental shelf claim is only valid if you Filipino believe in a historical claim
Where is sultanate ot sulu now😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sultan of sulu was dead when malaysia army bom them at lahad datu ha3😂
Sabah was indeed gifted to the Philippines as a form of gratitude by the Malaysian Sultan to a Philippine Sultan for helping in setting a civil war in Brunei before. Britain came in soon and complicated things between the two contries and released it back to Malaysia, to which Philippines protested against but was unheard. I heard Philippines bought it back again from malaysia for a dollar as a formality after british liberations but soon the futility of these international diplomatic efforts gave birth to a secrete occupation plan by the Philippines. The Philippines president sent Filipino families to inhabit the Sabbah and slowly retake its governance. However a competing political opposition of the Philippine president, in order to secure power and support, exposed the plan which resulted to the massacre of the hundreds of Filippino families in sent to Sabah. I am a Filipino and i agree we have rightful claims over Sabah but if it will cost us another war, and dispute with our neighboring countries, im not having it. aside from the meddling of the west, It was our own fault that we lost it anyway. collect my efforts to fight for spratly where chin is building its military base.
@@conyapcosme6771
Google👇🏼
😁1878 agreement Sabah
😁1903 agreement Sabah
I knew the west had something to do with this conflict. Always fueling fueds and thriving in that chaos.
How low of the west
phillipine dont have any sultan
@@maaz7796 Google👇🏼
😁1878 agreement Sabah
😁confirmation of cession Sabah
Remarks : Deed of cession deal had been signed off on legal document between Sulu & Baron Ovenback & Alfred Dent. Legally binding transaction done in 1903(120 years old).
@@maaz7796 ancient Filipinos has this sophisticated social status system being widely practiced mostly in mindanao and Visayas since they descended from the same ancestors of that of our neighboring countries that practiced the same culture and many folks Mindanao even practice it till today. this sabah issue originated from an allegiance between sultans of Philippines and Malaysia. your acknowledgement doesnt matter
China supports Malaysia's rightful claims.
Of course, Malaysia is China's friend.
china support nothing other their own claim. sabah is no one to claim. it is already part of malaysia and phi or china has no claim regarding their EEZ territory
We don't support Malaysia it's our territory we Chinese have the history of that island that's ours
@@AresMefina , you're delusional. keep away from recreation drugs.
@@AresMefina it's a bunch of trash rocks. We prefer to give those island to Malaysia and in exchange allow us to build joint military bases in the area with Malaysia to secure our maritime interest against America and NATO. We need friends in the South China Sea.
Sabah, Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭
lalaban mga tausog para sa sabah against Philippines
sbaah🇲🇾
Keep on day dreaming!
@@sharxM16 you pay rent malaydesh
Come and get Sabah if you dare.
hahaha now we will see who USA will side on this one.
1. USA promised investments to Philippines and brought them to Malaysia
2. when Britain unilaterally gave Sabah to Malaysia, USA did not protect Philippines
3. When China then governed by KMT claimeed the SCS USA did not protect Philippines, when KMT lose the civil war and went to China, Taiwan still claimed SCS, USA started putting up military bases around China now numbering more than 300, back then China need to assert the SCS claim or else USA will put military bases there also in the pretense of protecting Taiwan.
4. Filipinos forgot how USA treated Filipinos as crap even committing genocide after genocide during the American occupation, even shoot at Aetas around the US military bases saying those are monkeys.
5. The only semblance of real friendship between USA and Philippines is a small footbridge in front of US embassy, who paid for this I do not know, but during Duterte's time China import from Philippines increased exponentially and even gifted us with two bridges costing 5B pesos. now BBM happily became an American pet, China withdrew banana exports worth $200M of PROFIT, and that is only a partial withdrawal of import in banana. The only gifts you will get from USA are old military stuff they need to get rid of.
6. During the pandemic US military conducted massive disinformations about how bad Chinese donated masks were and how inadequate Sinovac is, therefore depriving Filipinos of critical health care... later a US military official said they did not see it as depriving Filipinos of critical health care but their only concern was to drag China through the mud.
USA DO NOT CARE ABOUT US. OPEN YOUR EYES.
Philippines likes jokes and lies. Let US continue to entertain Philippines
Ahahhahaha US is irrelevant on this issue if our leaders decided to claim sabah all along who will help you Malaysia? You are way to far with sabah you are only relying with Britain that time… if we filipino open our eyes we will come to get our own land sabah… its just a matter of time….
@@ralphkatsidis8338Sabah is Philippines owned not Malaysia. They are joking
Fix ya'll's grammar
But yeah, you're all right, the US cares only about China. Another completely different issue
The world knows who sabah belongs to
The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
@@hopelope1703dreaming always idiot
@@hopelope1703 UN did not
@@jonzkiecopy4267 Check it out
@@jonzkiecopy4267 Ha ha ha ha. Check it out
Malaysia had Sabah been long long time agos already ok.
Philippines stoping claim somethings isn't belong you guys same as at SCS those Islands too.
Pls just be peace with Aisa Countries much better to be a little puppet of your daddy to control what should need to do or not should need to do.
The world everyone could see so clearly that your daddy is been using you guys as his tools to against Aisa 🙄
Just let them settle the lease then let Sabah be part of Malaysia. Done.
The ownership of Sabah by Sulu can be disputable. Because Brunei Sultanate (original owner) granted North Borneo (Sabah) to BNBC dated 29/12/1877. Much earlier than the 1878 agreement. How can it belong to Sulu if Brunei can give it away? Sulu Sultanate relinquished its territories to the Spanish under the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement on 22/7/1878. Sulu has nothing left. Thus the 1878 Sulu-BNBC Agreement dated 22/1/1878 is null and void. The cession of Sabah from Sulu to PH in 1962 is invalid.
@@meteordaddy8638
Google👇🏼
😁1878 agreement Sabah
😁1903 confirmation of cession Sabah
Google search Malaysia-Sulucase.gov. my
Gonzalo Stampa(Arbitrator representing PH) was convicted contempt of court served with 6 months' jail sentence & ban from practising as an Arbitration Judge for a period of 1 year. Court ordered Sulu to pay €15000 + € 100000 to Malaysia( as legal cost & compensation). Sulu-Sabah long legal battle had ended with its Verdict overturned by Paris Court in favour of Malaysia. Conclusion is reached based on December 2023 outcome from arbitration court of appeal(Paris). Nothing can be done after court delivered its verdict. Court ordered Sulu to pay €15000 + €100000 to Malaysia( as a legal cost & compensation). A long legal battle.
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
It is in accordance with the international rule of law. MalAysia, just attend the deliberation in UNCLOS.
With regards to the case of the heirs of Sultan of Sulu and MalAysia. The heirs of Sultan of Sulu were awarded $14.92B to be paid by MalAysia, or else MalAysia assets will be seized all over the world.😂🤣
Firstly you are not the owner of sabah, let alone legal matter be left in the hands of the sultan not yours, your not even a claimant,
Malaysia stop act like lying thief just like Israel
UK help Malaysia steal Sabah just like Uk help Israel steal Palestine
@@SurprisedIsoscelesTriang-tb9qo
I support and stand up to those who suffer injustice. You've been judged!
On May 6, 2009, Malaysia and Vietnam submitted to the UN regarding their continental shelf in the South China Sea. But PH opposed the submission. When PH makes the submission as if they are the rightful submitter. What a joke.
malaysia continental shelf?
you are even a squatter in sabah
your country as a whole that includes sabah and peninsular Malaysia did not even exist before 1963
@@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN That is where you got it wrong. Show evidence Sabah belongs to Sulu/PH.
@@hopelope1703 SABAH WAS NOT UNDER THE PROTECTORATE OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE
WHAT IS THE PAYMENT OF MALAYSIA GIVEN TYO THE SULTAN??
OF SABAH WAS ALREADY PART OF MALAYSIA
SO WHAT IS THE PAYMENT FOR??
THE TERM PAJAK MEANS LEASE
THE BRITISH CHANGE IT MEANING TO SALE SO THAT IT CAN BE GIVEN TO MALAYSIA
SABAH WAS NOT EVEN PART OF A COUNTRY CALLED MALAYSIA BEFORE 1963
@@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN Ha ha ha ha. By now you must have read all my commrments regarding Sulu claims on Sabah. Go and check it out yourself.
MALAYSIA EXISTED ONLY IN 1963
YOU CANOT EVEN PRESENT A MAP OF THE WHOLE MALAYSIA IN THE 1700'S
ITS NOT EVEN CALLED MALAYSIA BEFORE 1963 LOL
This shit again. I really don't give a f*ck. We have a bigger country to worry about!
China support Malaysia
good
Yes they eat fetus both!!!
We been friend since the british invasion
Philippines owns sabah.
What is your evidence?
Sultanate of Sulu Britain where renting it but didn't paid the rent cause the Philippines was a American state that time. @@hopelope1703
@hopelope1703
The evidence is the ruling of the arbitral court. You've been judged. Pay up, or your assets will be seized all over the world.😆😅😂🤣
@AT-rs9jz
The British never negated their payment of rent to the Sultanate of Sulu.
@@fernandocruz4877 Did you see any celebration in PH if Sulu won the case? Is there any Sulu billionaires around? The news has been published internationally as well as in PH itself. Check the latest in 2023. These are a few.
The Manila Times: Dutch court rules against sultan's heirs
AlJazeera: Malaysia hails ‘victory’ in row with Sulu sultan’s Filipino heirs
Philippine Star: French court upholds Malaysia’s challenge vs $15-B award to Sulu heirs
Reuters: Spain charges arbitrator who awarded $15 billion to sultan's heirs in Malaysia dispute
Reuters: Malaysia says Luxembourg court sets aside request to enforce $15 bln arbitration award
Bloomberg: Malaysia Wins Court Fight Over Sulu Heirs’ $15 Billion Award
What undisputable evidence do you have that Sabah belongs to Sulu/PH?
Philippines aggressive coz back by usa ... ashamed
philipines is the Landlord of philipines...this time will back to where is belong.
go and fly kite
@@dzulk4117and kite fueled by pork oil..😂😂😂😂
@@dzulk4117 pay your rent
@@jonzkiecopy4267 kiss my feet and i pay you.......oh wait, go and wash your mouth with Hydrochloric acid 1st...ok
Poor slum filipino beggar can only cry...
Ultimately the native Sabahans have the right to self determination. They have chosen Malaysia in 1963 despite the Philippines' protest. The culture and the ethnicity are so different from the Filipinos it is laughable to suggest they are part of the Philippines just because they were ruled (conquered) by some defunct sultanate from centuries ago.
We dont know you pinoy. British and brunei are our friends but not you, sorry
Yeah and sabahans eat pork hahahhaha
@@Wakedanebecause you're just a Squatter
malaysia has no right for referendum, why ? because malaysia is just renting the sabbah they dont own sabbah.
@@maximaxlowe3594 actually they never rule anything here in the past, only Brunei did.
Nah its ours.
-Some random British guy
Very unpopular but ok. Haha
@@That_randomguy46 brooke
@@3crt1 who you calling broke mate?
@@That_randomguy46 no I said brooke. The ruler of Sarawak before the existence of Malaysia
@@3crt1 o ahahah
Banana Republic of Philippines. Owned by Dole.
Bong bong is trying to avert the internal domestic issues in PH by trying to raise up his popularity by playing up the Sabah issue again , nice try but it a stale issue once again .
Malaysia 🇲🇾 they only renting the Sabah
If you called it rent, where is the agreement between Sulu and Malaysia? If none, it is just like what pirates and mafia do for a living. Why in the 1878 agreement, was Malaysia not mentioned? Is there any clause in the 1878 agreement that Malaysia has the responsibility to continue paying Sulu? Why do the receipts in Sulu's possession not mention the money is for the rent? Why is the amount so small and not what has been stipulated in the agreement? One Mexican gold dollar (coins) in 1878 weighed 1.7 grams of gold. So, 5300 X 1.7/1000 = 9.01 kg of gold. Compare the value of 5300 Malaysian dollars to 9 kg of gold. Giving away money is not an offense. Can give or stop giving any time.
You can argue as much as you want. Proof says it all. Imagine paying rent for your own house. 😂😂😂
Not anymore darling🎉
@@hopelope1703if there is no proof why protest
@@dexterguantia4313 Because PH submitted to the UN their claims on continental shelf inclusive of EEZ under Malaysia (state of Sabah). Under UNCLOS every member state surrounding the SCS has the right to EEZ. What is funny the UN in 1963 recognized Sabah in Malaysia.
Philippines don't be too greedy...Many islands that the Philippines already own but there is still a lot of poverty...If Sabah is in the hands of the Philippines I'm sure, Sabah will be poorer even though they are rich in oil
The only reason why Malaysia is rich is because of oil they stole from sabah
Only macros greedy not Filipino citizens peoples.
Marcos is greedy used the government power
Sabah is belong to Sabahan only👍🏼
nor any govemment or country can claim it that include the philipines govrnment,
sabah are sabahan people 👍🏼
Are you sure.?
Is the Philippines so desperate...?
its Malaysia really scared 😢😂
The Philippines is being arrogant because they have the big bullies in their backyard
@@MLBB764 we rule Sabah over 60 year,,ha,ha...you dreaming pinoy
no lol
it's just a political action of maintaining claim
@@10demas yes you ruled sabah in 60years as a tenant 😁🤣😂😂😂
Free Sabah, Philippines. Get out Malaysia
Free Mindanao. Get out of Philippines
I support the Philippines claim in Sabah. 😊😊😊.
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 😂 only the Duterte faction wants to separate, even the Muslims don't want to separate, in fact they outright rejected his call for separation. Meanwhile Sabah have thousands of people who want to separate from Malaysia.
Go eat your pagpag
@@justamoogle5268 You mean the one where there's still Muslim Insurgency that caused by the infamous Jabidah Massacre when your ex dictator wants to invade Sabah and they rejected it? 😂
The only "Sabahan" that wants to separate is the illegal immigrants that cause issues to the local 😂
As a Filipino, win or lose regarding this case, both countries are doing justice and peace a favor. The diplomatic relations between the Philippines and Malaysia are still strong. We love Malaysia, and if they win, the Philippines will respect the ruling.
Im native of Sabah, Sabah has always been in Malaysia as per the collective voice of people back in 1963. Sabah is a sovereign state and is a part of Malaysia. period.
@@Pinnutinth
Support U 100%. We stand together!!
- Muar, Johore.
Why must Malaysia go to court with Philippines? Malaysia own Sabah now and it is recognised by UN. Philippines is a thief.
FINALLY! A reply section that understands the situation.
@@Pinnutinth I find it even better to let Sabah govern themselves. If, however, the sultanate of Sulu’s case or the Philippines won another challenge will arise and that is the people whose culture, language and values are much rooted in the Malaysian way of life. For the sake of peace and justice, I believe that the people of Sabah have the right to choose and decide.
I want to see how Philippines force the issue military because UN won’t heed Filipino request .
They did that before this happen again but they failed
Mindanao should an independent country.
I'm from Mindanao and I want to be my country an independent country anymore were gonna leave Philippines
Taiwan and Tibet are independent countries too 😂
We have a President that knows what’s right and wrong🇵🇭
Has he apologized for his
Mother’s actions during his Father’s presidential term?
@@MonMornQB
What is to be apologised?
@@fernandocruz4877 stealing foreign aid money given to the Philippines by the US, WB and IMF which was earmarked for the people. Have they returned it yet? Pare ko, i was in the Philippines during the edsa revolution and watched how Sr was taken by American Forces from the palace and brought to Hawaii. I’d like to believe the people were wrong about the family corruption pero the evidence was too much. When the family returned to the Philippines and continued their political ambitions, were they poor? Where did they get the money to fund their campaign and lifestyle?
@@MonMornQB
Where is your evidence? 2 lawsuits here in the🇺🇸 and 1 thousand cases in the 🇵🇭. NOT GUILTY OR DISMISSED.
@@hunk2176 Starts at 3328 of the video. The problem with Swiss accounts is it’s secretive manner. It’s very difficult to obtain the actual info on the account an themselves. But tell me, how we’re they able to fund their current lifestyle and election campaigns? After they returned to the Philippines when they continue to reiterate how poor they are? ua-cam.com/video/y9qkOLcpWJ4/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Oh the issue has arose again
Since when Malaysia owned Sabah land. All Malaysia land is a gift from british. See the richest people in the world, is british queen because her land is everywhere, including malaysia.
Well Malaysia and phillipines have their own reasons but Logical and technical and base on history phillipines are easy to win on this
Ha ha ha ha. Sulu/PH lost many court cases regarding Sabah.
You're arguement are as shallow. It's more likely Brunei reclaim Manila/ Maynila and whole luzon because of history thing.
In June 2023, Malaysia secured landmark victories in the Paris Court of Appeal and the Hague Court of Appeal, demonstrating the fundamentally flawed nature of the Sulu claim and a clear step towards the collapse of the case. 😂
Philippines as a country even can't intervene in the early 2000s Sipadan-Ligitan island ICJ case between Malaysia and Indonesia, intervention rejected by ICJ. Malaysia won the case anyway against Indonesia. That's how solid the island is within Sabah and Malaysia.
@@rizzor.8454 Even though we won, i wished that we didn't. The island is in ruins
As a pilipino if im in sabah I don’t want to be part of the Philippines i will go to Malaysia #Respect
sabah are far better in malaysia. look what phi government did to their southern region. bad move when macros senior decided to abolish the sulu sultanate. suluk without a role model is a community without purpose. that why they back to stone ages and never recover. the southern region used to superior and cultured than the northen until the colonial invaders destroy them for greed. some of the decendant of these people are now running the phi government and their greed and reckless are so obvious.
@jefferi78 the conflicts in Mindanao were done by Malaysia. It's an open secret.
@jefferi78
It was the heirs of Sultan of Sulu who filed the case vs. MalAysia. The heirs of Sultan of Sulu won the case, and they're are Filipinos.
@jefferi78
PH is a Republic just like Indonesia. In a Republic, just like Indonesia, where the people rule. The Sultanate of Sulu has a titular title recognised by the PH. The domains of the Sultanate of Sulu are the sovereignty of the PH but the proprietary of the Sultanate of Sulu.
Then go Malaysia.. Sabah not part of Malaysia
By supporting us, we give you what u want!!
What do you want??
Philps: I want Malaysia😅😅
It's loud and clear that the real owner of Sabah is the Sultanate of Sulu
The ownership of Sabah by Sulu can be disputable. Because Brunei Sultanate (original owner) granted North Borneo (Sabah) to BNBC dated 29/12/1877. Much earlier than the 1878 agreement. How can it belong to Sulu if Brunei can give it away? Sulu Sultanate relinquished its territories to the Spanish under the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement on 22/7/1878. Sulu has nothing left. Thus the 1878 Sulu-BNBC Agreement dated 22/1/1878 is null and void. The cession of Sabah from Sulu to PH in 1962 is invalid.
@@hopelope1703 Sabah belong to people of Sabah. Not some non existent monarchy who only want to sit on throne and use people's taxes and money
@@ely9258 Ha ha ha ha ha. I know that. You need to respond to those who believe that Sabah belongs to Sulu/PH with facts and references. If not, they won't believe you.
Philippines no problem with Malaysia only for China
malaysia people not loyal to malaysia government but to china
Malaysia should help Mindanao get out of Phillipines
They already helped by arming Abu Sayaf ang MNLF.
Welcome back, Sabah Philippines ❤
Sultan Sulu claimed Sabah is has no foundation at all.
Why Sultan of Brunei at that never ceded even an inch of Sabah land.
Why the current Sultan of Sulu is not official accepted as the Sultan of Phillipines rather a commoner.
If Malaysia doesn't keep quiet, then the PH will resume to reclaim Sabah! Sabah belongs to the Philippines!
Cry 😀
Go eat your pagpag😂😂😂
Cry 😂
Lol
Philipine have no rights on Sabah.
That's the Philippines territory named Borneo.
Borneo is the entire island. Are u dumb?
only Sabah is owned by PH not the entire Borneo
@@totzinfo claim*
In your dream😂
@@youtuberzero6975 you will see
As a filipino let sabah be to malaysia they're are brothers
Emboldened & goaded by Big Brother 😢making claims & creating discord in the region.
Palawan and mindanao islands are indisputable part of malaysia and belong to malaysia
@@liesterminator153 malaysia belongs to borneo
@@kittyblogger8703 hahaha part of borneo is Malaysia don't u study geography in school ? 😂
@@liesterminator153 Malaysia is just a fake country created in 1970s by the british. While the Philippines already existed in 15th century.
Geography is a mess. One claims it’s theirs while the other claims it’s also theirs. Now they’re gonna fight over it, either diplomatic or war.
And of course, it’s a fight over needs. Ancient people make wars for his people’s needs or just for fame and control.
If Philippines extend the continental shelf claims over Sabah, then China also should extend their claim in regards to Philippines. Malaysia should support China's claims over Philippines.
Lol. Because the sea used their name
Can Philippines just focus on their poverty issue first? Just leave Sabah alone Sabah are the one that willingly wanted to be part of Malaysia
So Sabahas be in Mal Asia. The land belongs to the Sultanate of Sulu.
Most Filipinos DON'T even CARE about Sabah. We have bigger issues in our country to care about than colonizing a territory. If there'd be a referendum to annex Sabah, most Filipinos would vote NO because we'd just be paying more taxes for new territory. Please don't listen to these loud right-wing minority wanting to claim Sabah. We don't even care about them!
Most Filipinos don't even care about Sabah. The Sabah Issue was a creation of Marcos Sr. and Filipinos rarely talk about it nowadays. We have bigger issues to care about. Don't listen to these loud minority.
@@achuuuooooosuu
I care.😂🤣
I'm a Filipino, but Sabah is for Malaysia....
Like how can they prove that they CLAIM Sabah even though that the Sultanate in Sabah came out of nowhere and invaded Zamboanga, Lanao and Cotabato?
i am malaysian , but sabah is for philippines..
@@jonzkiecopy4267 no. You don't speak for Sabahan unless you're illegal immigrants in Sabah
huh? came from nowhere? oh please, there was history over the claim and papers and documents to even show that, and oh please Malaysia were renting that land and FYI there was no MALAYSIA before they get independence from Singapore. So don't you push on that narrative, SABAH from the Philippines is way more ancient than MALAYSIA born as a country LMAO!!!
@@randomviralvideos5110 I know...but I don't want ARROGANCE BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES...
@@jonzkiecopy4267 You speak for noone if you're not Sabahan
Malaysia have good tie with China. Proven by military exercise between them. So Malaysia can easily invade Southern Philippines with China supporting
Do you think Sabahan people want to downgrade? 😂😂😂
Sabah = Philippines. Philippines number 1.
The State of Sabah is and has never been a part of the Philippines.
UNCLOS has absolutely no power to grand territorial water dispute for or against any countries.
@@COLLAPSE.of.US.ECONOMY UNCLOS introduced the law of the sea in 1982. Think logically ?
As filo. I dont even care sabah. Its a land of the past. Philippines has so many problems to face first.
Sabah people choose to be in Malaysia,cry😂ph
That's right! Malaysia helped arming Abu Sayaf and MNLF to spread chaos, so what happened they become refugee in Sabah.
this chinese malaysian.are claiming sabah //not the native malaysia// chine influence and invasion land grabbing sabah
Seems quiet abt marawi siege but backfired? @@bliss0878
this is why Sabah politicians were afraid of 😂😁
Time to bring back Sabah to Philippines
never
@@joalmeda2687 The British before the formation of Malaysia, hold a referendum in Sabah, Sarawak & Brunei to join then Malaya into Malaysia. Only Brunei rejects but Sabah & Sarawak seek to join Malaysia. This is also same with Kosovo referendum and Crimea, and those 4 region in eastern Ukraine that voted to be independent and later applied to join Russia Federation. Done deal.
yes.. its time.. malaysia may take the people live in sabah but leave the land of Borneo
The banana Republic of Philippines trying to claim everything 😅
Who want to be part of slum garbage dump called philippines?
Im Sabahan. Sabah belongs to us, the people of sabah❤
@@user-pt1rw4sx6t sadly we sabahan doesn't like people who is poorer than us. Most Philippines that came here only want to take land from us. We work hard to make sure every Sabahan to have a life here not to be taken away from a government that is poorer than us.
@@user-pt1rw4sx6t Im sabahan and this land belong to us.
@@user-pt1rw4sx6t my tribe don't have sultan...sultan is arab country, monarch literary enjoyer of people taxpayers. They sit on the throne without doing nothing....i dont understand why today people still want to be slave of monarchy.....& we dont want to be ruled by lanun that came to our land and claim this land are theirs.
@@ely9258 Sabahans are borneans ancestry////now Sabah the state of malaysia // im sure youre a malaysian xhinese //not Sabahans//malaysia //fool and trick Sabahan by giving a mock election/now claim Sabah a fake ownership//the reason.because people of Sabah //want Malaysia//comedy very shallow reason //like children
@@ely9258 Sabahan //under the state of malaysia//malaysia own youre land a fake ownership//trick and fooled the sabah people of there.mock election/ the reason the people of sabah wants malaysia as there foster citizenship//funny //give them anything they grab//but that is not real sabahans//im sure a xhinese malaysian
Well, this is good knowing that territorial disputes are brought to the UN rather than going to war. Philippines too is doing this against China in resolving the disputes in WPS but China is not participating but resorting to bullying!
LET THE DARN CITIZENS PICK DAMNIT
@@3crt1 The Philippines don't want to because they know Sabahans would prefer living in Malaysia. The Philippines don't care about the people here they just want to take our natural resources for themselves
Sabahans already pick and they choose malaysia
@@rayyanhayder Then let Malaysia have Sabah. That's what the citizens prefer and suddenly being ceded to the Philippines would lower the stability of both Malaysia and Philippines
@@3crt1blame to Philippines for that🤷🏻♂️ they are so greedy for lands
Return Sabah to it's rightful owner.
The people of Sabah?
you mean borneo must return to the Philippines and sabahans to return in malaysia
Brunei
@@jonzkiecopy4267Sabahans include ethnic groups who lived there before these countries even existed btw
It's time for china to make defense pact with Malaysia
Why should China be involved. Nothing to do. With China at all ???
Lol Malaysia would be in a big economic turmoil if that happens, remember that US and it's allies from EU are still the biggest investors in Malaysia 😅 Malaysia is not Malaysia without US and EU investors 😂
@@karasadventure6067 source: trust me bro
@@widodoakrom3938 why need to drag us or china....we have asean ourself....the agreements with Philippines and Malaysia were border we saw today.....back then we dont need china or usa🤣
@@ely9258 hmmmm make sense
Many Malaysians and Filipinos does not know that on November 2, 1999 Malaysian Government submitted a document known as "Memorial of Malaysia" to UN proving that North Borneo, from Pandasan River to Sibuko, was under the sovereignty of Sulu Sultan before he ceded it to the Philippine Government.
Page 29 and 31-35 of 1999 Memorial of Malaysia says, "In the 18th and throughout the 19th century until 1878, the coastal territory of north-east Borneo and its adjacent islands was a dependency of the Sultanate of Sulu, and something needs to be said accordingly about this Sultanate. The Sultanate was a substantial maritime power, exercising authority over a considerable number of islands lying between mainland Borneo and the Philippines, as well as over the Sulu 'Archipelago itself. In fact a great deal of the Sultan's revenue came from the region of north-eastern Borneo under the procurement system, being traded through Sulu with China, Singapore and elsewhere. Under the procurement system, trading in a whole range of commodities (birds' nests, trepang, etc.) occurred via Sulu, and local people made frequent visits there for this and other purposes.
The position was described in some detail by James Hunt in "Some Particulars relating to Sulo, in the Archipelago of Felicia", first published in 1837. His account reads in part as follows (modem place names are underlined in brackets): "The province of Mangidora forms the north eastem part of Bomeo, extending itself towards the Su10 Archipelago in a long narrow point named Unsang, or cape Misfortune [Taniuna Unsang]...After refening to the Sulu port of Sabahan, Hunt goes on to describe points further south, including Tidong (where there was in 1837 "a small fort with seven or eight large guns under Sulo"). Then, in "the last province on Bomeo belonging to Sulo", which was named the province of Tirun, he mentions the Sibuko river, followed by other rivers dong the coast before arriving at Bulungan...
The earlier history of Brunei sovereignty over the coasts of Bomeo was the reason why Baron von Overbeck in 1877-8 obtained
two grants covering exactly the same territory, one from Brunei, one from Sulu. But by the 1870s it was agreed that Brunei exercised no
effective authority on the north-east coast and that the Sultan of Sulu exercised control there (See Reports of Acting Consul-Genera Treacher in 1878).
This control resulted from the allegiance of the local people and the appointment of their local chiefs by the Sultan. For example, Nakoda Gomba was the Sultan's Agent on the north-east coast of Borneo. When in 1875 a party from the Austrian corvette Friedrich was attacked in Sibuko Bay while collecting wood, it was to the Sultan of Sulu that Nakoda Gomba reported.4 In his statement Gomba notes that he is "the agent of the Sultan of Sulu charged with the superintendence of the trade on the north-east coast of Bomeo". As to the attack on the Austrians, he reports that: "The people who attacked the boat of the Austrian frigate are Bajows of Omadar [Ornadal], a small island near Pulo Gaya.. . They mistook the flag of the frigate and thought the ship belonged to their enemies, the Spaniards. I have written all the information I can collect on the subject to the Sultan of Sulu, and soon expect to receive his orders. I think he will certainly order the apprehension and execution of two of the Chiefs."
It is significant that Gomba was one of the Sulu officials who continued to hold office when the Company assumed governance of the region,
being appointed native magistrate of Darvel Bay in 1882.' He was also one of the signatories of a "Protest of Chiefs of Sandakan against Spanish Occupation" signed on the occasion of an abortive attempt by a Spanish frigate to take over the settlement of Sandakan in September 1878...
The Sultan of Sulu's authority over north-eastern Borneo was recognized by other States and is evidenced, for example, in the
following documents:
(a) In 1870 there was published in Leiden the second edition of a "General Atlas of the Netherlands Indies". Its full title as shown on the title page may be translated as follows: "General Atlas of the Netherlands Indies compiled from officia1 sources and with approval of the Government. Second edition with improved maps". It was edited by Baron Melvill van Carnbée and W.F. Versteeg, both officers of the Government of the Netherlands Indies. The map of the east coast of Borneo shows a boundary running westwards of an island named "P. Sebalik" [sic]. To the north of that line is the inscription "Gebied van Soeloe of Solokh" ("Dominion of Soeloe or Solokh"). To the north and well to the east of the boundary line depicted on the map are shown certain islands clustered around Darvel Bay, including specifically "P. Siparan" (Sipadan) and "P.
Legetan" (Ligitan). The depiction of the islands and coastline here is highly inaccurate, by comparison with the areas further to the south where the Dutch had at that time some measure of control. But it is plain from the map that the islands named and the other territories to the north of the depicted boundary were considered in 1870 as belonging to Sulu, and were not claimed by the Netherlands in right
of Bulungan or otherwise.
(b) Following the Sultan of Sulu's 1878 grant to von Overbeck and Dent, questions were raised in the Dutch Parliament on the assertion of Dutch claims to control over Borneo. In reply the Dutch Minister of Colonies said: "The north-east and north-west portions of Borneo have never been under Our dominion. We have never disputed the authority of Spain over the dependencies of Sulu in the north-east portion of the island..."
(c) This position was expressly reaffirmed in the Explanatory Memorandum to the Dutch Parliament which accompanied the 1891 Boundary Treaty. The two relevant Ministers reported that: "the Bajaus who live on the islands located at the North-Eastern Coast of Borneo, which belong to the Sultanate of Solok...
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I repeat it to you again so that you can understand better because you only mentioned Part 2 Chapter 5(B) on Sulu territories on the east coast of North Borneo.
You tend to be selective in your comments and omit others from the same reference.
You only quoted Part 2 Chapter 5 (B) regarding the territories of Sulu on the east coast of Borneo from the Memorial of Malaysia 1999.
But neglecting the others as stated below included in Part 2 from the Memorial of Malaysia 1999:
Chapter 5 (D) is the recognition of Spain on the British rights over North Borneo.
Chapter 5 (E) is the recognition of the Dutch on British rights over North Borneo.
Chapter 5 (F) is the recognition of the USA on the British rights over North Borneo.
Read the Carpenter Agreement 1915 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930.
@@hopelope1703 It seems you haven't read my reply to your previous comment. Perhaps UA-cam didn't show it. Well I just have to repeat it again...
Why are you still looking for evidence that Brunei Sultan gave Sabah to Sulu when in the first place the Malaysian Government knows and proven in its official documents, the 1999 Memorial of Malaysia and the 2024 Sulu Fraud and Malaysia's Truth, that large chunk of Sabah belongs to Sulu?
No matter how many times you insist that Sulu Sultan has or had no dominion over Sabah, the Malaysian Government has already proven to the world that Sulu Sultan once had sovereignty, and had effective occupation, over large chunk of Sabah before he ceded it to the Philippine Government on April 24, 1962.
I think even if the Malaysian Government admitted that the Sulu Sultan had once effective control over the disputed land, you just cannot accept it.
Because you know nothing about evidence proving Brunei Sultan gave Sabah (Kimanis to Sibuko) to Sulu Sultan read the "Selesilah of the Rajas of Bruni."
As of Spanish 1878 Pacification and Capitulation Treaty, according to original suratsug transcript the Sulu Sultan never gave up its sovereignty over Spain.
The status of Sulu as defined by this treaty resembled that of a protectorate/commercial/religious agreement. The internal administration of Sulu, its customs, laws, and religion were fully respected and were not subject to Spanish jurisdiction, confirmation, approval, or interference of any sort, except in matters pertaining to regulations for the use of firearms…
The commercial relations of Sulu with foreign countries were not submitted to Spanish supervision or control outside of the territory occupied by the garrisons, and the sultan was empowered to collect duties from foreign merchants and ships trading with Maymbung, Siasi, and other places not occupied by the Spanish Government.
Even the British Government has always asserted that Spain's control over Sulu and its dependencies was merely "nominal" that Spanish claims were merely "paper claims" and that sovereignty remains in the Sultan of Sulu.
As of 1915 Carpenter Agreement, under agreement, the Sultan of Sulu agreed to relinquish it’s temporal powers over “American territory and dependencies,” but retained its sovereignty over North Borneo. As Governor Carpenter pointed out in clear language, in a communication to the Director of Non-Christian tribes on May 4, 1920, respecting the Sultan’s sovereign rights over North Borneo: “It is necessary however that there be clearly of official record the fact that the termination of temporal sovereignty of the Sultanate of Sulu within American territory is understood to be wholly without prejudice or effect as to the temporal sovereignty and ecclesiastical authority of the Sultanate beyond the territorial jurisdiction of the United states Government especially with reference to that portion of the island of Borneo which as a dependency of the Sultanate of Sulu is understood to be held under lease by the chartered company which which is known as the “British North Borneo Company.”
And as American Governor General Francis B. Harrison made even more explicit: “It is true Governor Carpenter’s contract or treaty with the Sultan of Sulu of 1915 deprived the Sultan of his temporal sovereignty in the Philippine Archipelago but this did not interfere with the Sultan’s status of sovereignty over British North Borneo lands.”
It is in the context of these statements that the 1930 Convention, referred to in the argument, should be considered. The United states never purported to succeed to North Borneo, it did not claim North Borneo, and could not possibly cede or waive anything in favor of the British Crown.
@@hopelope1703 It seems that you did not see my reply to your previous comment. Perhaps youtube have some issues. Well I just have to repeat it again…
Why are you still looking for evidence that Brunei Sultan gave Sabah to Sulu when in the first place the Malaysian Government knows and proven in its official documents, the 1999 Memorial of Malaysia and the 2024 Sulu Fraud and Malaysia's Truth, that large chunk of Sabah belongs to Sulu?
No matter how many times you insist that Sulu Sultan has or had no dominion over Sabah, the Malaysian Government has already proven to the world that Sulu Sultan once had sovereignty, and had effective occupation, over large chunk of Sabah before he ceded it to the Philippine Government on April 24, 1962.
I think even if the Malaysian Government admitted that the Sulu Sultan had once effective control over the disputed land, you just cannot accept it.
Because you know nothing about evidence proving Brunei Sultan gave Sabah (Kimanis to Sibuko) to Sulu Sultan read the "Selesilah of the Rajas of Bruni."
As of Spanish 1878 Pacification and Capitulation Treaty, according to original suratsug transcript the Sulu Sultan never gave up its sovereignty over Spain.
The status of Sulu as defined by this treaty resembled that of a protectorate/commercial/religious agreement. The internal administration of Sulu, its customs, laws, and religion were fully respected and were not subject to Spanish jurisdiction, confirmation, approval, or interference of any sort, except in matters pertaining to regulations for the use of firearms…
The commercial relations of Sulu with foreign countries were not submitted to Spanish supervision or control outside of the territory occupied by the garrisons, and the sultan was empowered to collect duties from foreign merchants and ships trading with Maymbung, Siasi, and other places not occupied by the Spanish Government.
Even the British Government has always asserted that Spain’s control over Sulu and its dependencies was merely "nominal" that Spanish claims were merely "paper claims" and that sovereignty remains in the Sultan of Sulu.
As of 1915 Carpenter Agreement, under agreement, the Sultan of Sulu agreed to relinquish it’s temporal powers over “American territory and dependencies,” but retained its sovereignty over North Borneo. As Governor Carpenter pointed out in clear language, in a communication to the Director of Non-Christian tribes on May 4, 1920, respecting the Sultan’s sovereign rights over North Borneo: “It is necessary however that there be clearly of official record the fact that the termination of temporal sovereignty of the Sultanate of Sulu within American territory is understood to be wholly without prejudice or effect as to the temporal sovereignty and ecclesiastical authority of the Sultanate beyond the territorial jurisdiction of the United states Government especially with reference to that portion of the island of Borneo which as a dependency of the Sultanate of Sulu is understood to be held under lease by the chartered company which which is known as the “British North Borneo Company.”
And as American Governor General Francis B. Harrison made even more explicit: “It is true Governor Carpenter’s contract or treaty with the Sultan of Sulu of 1915 deprived the Sultan of his temporal sovereignty in the Philippine Archipelago but this did not interfere with the Sultan’s status of sovereignty over British North Borneo lands.”
It is in the context of these statements that the 1930 Convention, referred to in the argument, should be considered. The United states never purported to succeed to North Borneo, it did not claim North Borneo, and could not possibly cede or waive anything in favor of the British Crown.
@@hopelope1703 My previous reply to your comment was not allowed by YT to be posted. I guess they have some issues so I just use another account to response to your comment. I hope you can read this one...
Why are you still looking for evidence that Brunei Sultan gave Sabah to Sulu when in the first place the Malaysian Government knows and proven in its official documents, the 1999 Memorial of Malaysia and the 2024 Sulu Fraud and Malaysia's Truth, that large chunk of Sabah belongs to Sulu?
No matter how many times you insist that Sulu Sultan has or had no dominion over Sabah, the Malaysian Government has already proven to the world that Sulu Sultan once had sovereignty, and had effective occupation, over large chunk of Sabah before he ceded it to the Philippine Government on April 24, 1962.
I think even if the Malaysian Government admitted that the Sulu Sultan had once effective control over the disputed land, you just cannot accept it.
Because you know nothing about evidence proving Brunei Sultan gave Sabah (Kimanis to Sibuko) to Sulu Sultan read the "Selesilah of the Rajas of Bruni."
As of Spanish 1878 Pacification and Capitulation Treaty, according to original suratsug transcript the Sulu Sultan never gave up its sovereignty over Spain.
The status of Sulu as defined by this treaty resembled that of a protectorate/commercial/religious agreement. The internal administration of Sulu, its customs, laws, and religion were fully respected and were not subject to Spanish jurisdiction, confirmation, approval, or interference of any sort, except in matters pertaining to regulations for the use of firearms…
The commercial relations of Sulu with foreign countries were not submitted to Spanish supervision or control outside of the territory occupied by the garrisons, and the sultan was empowered to collect duties from foreign merchants and ships trading with Maymbung, Siasi, and other places not occupied by the Spanish Government.
Even the British Government has always asserted that Spain’s control over Sulu and its dependencies was merely "nominal" that Spanish claims were merely "paper claims" and that sovereignty remains in the Sultan of Sulu.
As of 1915 Carpenter Agreement, under agreement, the Sultan of Sulu agreed to relinquish it’s temporal powers over “American territory and dependencies,” but retained its sovereignty over North Borneo. As Governor Carpenter pointed out in clear language, in a communication to the Director of Non-Christian tribes on May 4, 1920, respecting the Sultan’s sovereign rights over North Borneo: “It is necessary however that there be clearly of official record the fact that the termination of temporal sovereignty of the Sultanate of Sulu within American territory is understood to be wholly without prejudice or effect as to the temporal sovereignty and ecclesiastical authority of the Sultanate beyond the territorial jurisdiction of the United states Government especially with reference to that portion of the island of Borneo which as a dependency of the Sultanate of Sulu is understood to be held under lease by the chartered company which which is known as the “British North Borneo Company.”
And as American Governor General Francis B. Harrison made even more explicit: “It is true Governor Carpenter’s contract or treaty with the Sultan of Sulu of 1915 deprived the Sultan of his temporal sovereignty in the Philippine Archipelago but this did not interfere with the Sultan’s status of sovereignty over British North Borneo lands.”
It is in the context of these statements that the 1930 Convention, referred to in the argument, should be considered. The United states never purported to succeed to North Borneo, it did not claim North Borneo, and could not possibly cede or waive anything in favor of the British Crown.
@@Justin00704Ha ha ha ha. Like I said it before. You are more of a historian giving all the chronological events in the past. Look from the legal point of view because only in the courthouse that will determine the right judgment. Not in the museum. Issue of sovereignty or ownership, you go to court. That is why Sulu/PH lost in court concerning Sabah.
Can we just ask the people of Sabah who they want to be part of?
People of Sabah already spoke through Suruhanjaya Cobbold. I'm Sabahan myself there is no way I will let a government that is poorer than us to govern us.
Here we go again, the pagpag false claim.
Anything new from your menu?
so you’re paying rent to the pagpag false claim? 😂
@@zageous Nobody pay rental to their own property.
@@shukriramlee why Malaysia paying rent then
@@zageous Nobody paying rent to the pagpag.
Pinoys are funny. claim all you like, Sabah is Malaysia. Bring it to International Court if you have the balls, then we'll see.
Sure, why not. Just make sure you back it up with very sturdy balls on your end and not fragile ones.
@@myanimeroom9350 Malaysia's balls are ready. it's the Pinoys that failed to grow one after so many years.
The Philippines did had the balls taking on China on the international court what are you talking about? Malaysia and the rest of Asian countries and especially ASEAN state members was cowards then and including Malaysia still a coward now. Malaysia is still licking China’s butt. Before Sabah was incorporated into Malaysia your government called in a vote and it was your government that resulted through intimidation blackmailed voters voting for Malaysia instead of the Philippines and Malaysia deported Sabah citizens in the Philippines even though they were born in Sabah and some of them were just working in Sabah.
idoits why you pay for rent if you really own Sabah.
@@myanimeroom9350by your logic China owns Philippines
Watch China say that Sabah belongs to them 😂