Basically, when Batman and Superman both enter the public domain, the older stories would be the only ones available for use. Not the more recent ones. That means characters like Harley Quinn or Hush can't be used. And since DC owns the characters, you wouldn't be able to use their names in the title. It would be interesting to see how someone might use the character without having DC step on their toes.
Wich names are you referring to? Batman and Superman won't be usable names once it gets to public domain because DC still owns them? I just want to make sure I understood correctly. Thanks in advance!
@@keineken_3281 My comment explained it pretty well. But here's some additional context: The very first issue of Batman will be in the public domain in a few short years. That means that anybody will be able to adapt it, remake it, and possibly, turn it into a feature film. But because DC owns Batman, they technically wouldn't be able to call it Batman. They also can't use Alfred since he doesn't appear in the first Batman comic. They also can't use specifics like Batman's origins. The first Batman comic didn't explore how Batman came to be. They would have to make their own origin story in that regard. I think they would be able to use the name "Batman" in their story. But it has to be that specific Batman, not the modern day interpretation of Batman.
@@snakeshadows6993 My question was because you mentioned another 2 characters and then said we couldn't use their names, I was just making sure you meant the name Batman couldn't be use.
@@keineken_3281 The characters I mentioned weren't a part of the original Batman Comics. They were created years later. Harley Quinn first appeared in Batman: The Animated Series in the 90s. Hush was created in 2003. Since they didn't appear in the first Batman comic, they won't enter the public domain any time soon. So what that means is that anybody who wants to adapt the very first Batman comic can't use the more recent characters like Harley and Hush. Not without paying DC royalties. As for the character Batman, DC still owns him. So even though the first comic will be public domain in the next 11 years, whoever decides to adapt it can't call it Batman, or The Dark Knight. Maybe the main character can still be called Batman. But not the title itself.
Im very excited for the lion's share of DC heroes coming to the public domain. As things are already, 2024 already seems like a big year given both Mickey Mouse and Buck Rogers are set to finally become free to use. Then Popeye tags along in 2025.
@@thebatman4848 see you in 2024 when the first dozen mickey shorts lapse and disney's attempts to trademark his appearances from said shorts fail completely just as they have with oswald.
Alot of people are already discussing the Superman situation because the expect they'll be restricted to exclusively just the first year of Action Comics appearances for a time. The thing is both the radio serials and the Fleischer shorts have been in the PD for decades. Arguably, you should be able to pull as much from those sources as you could from the first year of Action Comics stories. Presumably this even applies to Superman's emblem.
There would be alot of limitation once superman becomes public domain. Though that could be part of fun. As video said he won't even be flying, but that could be fun to work with. And flying could be used later on soon anyway.
@@DCclayster Finding foes for Superman to face off against is something Im really invested in. Also, thoughts on the timely/marvel heroes entering PD around the same time? namely Cap, Namor, and Jim Hammond Torch.
@@lazer-ape Lex will become Public Domain two years after, other notable villains would take longer, but we could have original villains/one from flesher cartoons. Superman don't demand his villains as much as batman's. Also interesting too see Cap and Namor in Public Domain assumably around same time. Just won't have as much connected marvel universe as DC ones would. But hey, could be fun too explore WW2 stories with Captain America.
@@DCclayster I know Jimmy Olsen, Ma Kent, and Pa Kent are just as far off as Bizarro, Metallo, and Brainiac for instance. But as far as Jimmy goes we have a stand in for him from the Fleischer shorts named "Louis".
@@lazer-ape Namor would be a good match against 1938 Superman. Original superman had greater strength because he was from a planet with stronger gravity. Namor is strong because he's used to having all of that water pressure on him. Original Supes could only jump like the Hulk and while bulletproof it wasn't established to what extent. Namor could potentially take him. Red Raven, Whizzer, Thin Man, Spider Queen, Volton, Fighting Yank/Spirit of 76, Ms America (the original) ought to be public domain in a few years i they aren't already.
@@DCclayster ok listen He can be Nightwing Without name he can change appearance and Modify his Robin suit into a more Black and blue Or Golden and blue You can make him Night eagle or black Robin And change his sticks into Swords ⚔️
@@pkroninverse7307 I like the way you think. Alot of this would depend on execution and how stingy wb laywers are. I like the idea of him getting another mantle other than robin, people just can't call him Nightwing and avoid certain direct visual cues from his look. For example, JLU wasn't able to use aquaman characters at a certain point, so they re worked black manta into devil ray, and was made to look different. If nothing else, food for thought.
@@DCclayster Yes I know another loop hole I have I will make him Wear a broken Batman armor not full armor you know Then he will modify it Changes into athletic version and don't forget Swords
Winnie the Pooh is also now starring in a comic book as a demon slayer trying to keep five nations from going to war with each other. EDIT: Also, the reason why Superman was swapped to being able to fly was because of The Arctic Giant, where the people, now seeing it in motion, thought it looked silly with him jumping everywhere.
Funny enough I used footage in this video and I thought it was kinda cool, like being able to super jump, but soften his impact, almost like he could proto fly. Flying more ideal, but is worth trying for while.
Do not worry @@DCclayster . For when supes enters public domain, you can still have him fly. Just have it be because of something like gravity manipulation or fart power.
@@1fishmob not really worry. Public domain a bit of a sliding time scale, so since it was like 2 years after his creator superman flew, probably will be two years after entering public domain he'd fly there too.
@@1fishmobHey, you seen how nuts people got with Blood and Honey with Winnie the Pooh? Basically if something wasn't created while under the license, it's game. could go crazy with superman once he enters. Just bound to hold on too certain aspects like visual cues or other characters.
And if the justice league are set to the enter public domain and we stop having franchises of Legion of superpets and krypto the superdog which I feel addicted to but can't get off my head?
I mean who knows what's planned, but of course they're gonna try holding on too what they can. Like when superman becomes public domain, it would still be few years till he could fly or have certain supporting characters. And couple decades before certain villains. Heck certain stories would be held onto. Point of video is too mention some the technicalities too come.
I think it'll be interesting because DC will still own their trademarks. I'm not a lawyer, but DC still does have their trademarks on their names and logos and maybe even their costumes too. So, I think it'll be a little bit more difficult than just sticking them into your story and that's that. A great example of this is Captain Marvel. Fawcett let several of his early issues including his first appearance fall into the public domain. DC in a backwards kind of way proved that when they submitted a list of Fawcett comics that they bought ownership of to a website that publishes public domain comics and there was a noticeable gap in issues involving Captain Marvel. Yet despite that you don't see anyone rushing out to use Captain Marvel and that's because DC trademarked things like the word Shazam, the name Billy Batson, his costume, etc. So, I don't think it'll be impossible to use these characters when they fall into the public domain, but I do think people will have to get creative to use them or else DC will have a team of lawyers just waiting to sue someone.
as Ive had it explained to me, you can name billy and cap within the confines of your work but you cannot expressly advertise your work as "captain marvel" or "shazam" or do the same with any of his supporting cast. however, once we reach the expiration date DC's hold over even that becomes pretty fuzzy. using trademarks as a mean to combat competition is a pretty recent development and alot of people are waiting and watching to see how it fares. but ultimately I expect it will do little in the way of keeping these characters from being free to use. only winnie the pooh and tarzan are the most pertinent examples at this time. the edgar rice burroughs estate even trademarked the name "tarzan" but as far as I know it doesnt prevent people from using the character
@@lazer-ape Got it! Trademarks have always confused me, but the more I learn about them it seems like that's more of a marketing thing versus a copyright thing. Which is I guess is good in a sense that someone like Captain Marvel could appear baring the same look and name as a supporting character in a story versus not at all.
@@justinclark397 it's one hundred percent a marketing thing. Disney going as far as to trademark Mickey's appearance in Steamboat Willie for example is just branding and whether they like it or not, wont impede people from using that incarnation as they see fit.
Basically, when Batman and Superman both enter the public domain, the older stories would be the only ones available for use. Not the more recent ones. That means characters like Harley Quinn or Hush can't be used. And since DC owns the characters, you wouldn't be able to use their names in the title. It would be interesting to see how someone might use the character without having DC step on their toes.
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Wich names are you referring to? Batman and Superman won't be usable names once it gets to public domain because DC still owns them? I just want to make sure I understood correctly. Thanks in advance!
@@keineken_3281 My comment explained it pretty well. But here's some additional context:
The very first issue of Batman will be in the public domain in a few short years. That means that anybody will be able to adapt it, remake it, and possibly, turn it into a feature film. But because DC owns Batman, they technically wouldn't be able to call it Batman. They also can't use Alfred since he doesn't appear in the first Batman comic.
They also can't use specifics like Batman's origins. The first Batman comic didn't explore how Batman came to be. They would have to make their own origin story in that regard. I think they would be able to use the name "Batman" in their story. But it has to be that specific Batman, not the modern day interpretation of Batman.
@@snakeshadows6993 My question was because you mentioned another 2 characters and then said we couldn't use their names, I was just making sure you meant the name Batman couldn't be use.
@@keineken_3281 The characters I mentioned weren't a part of the original Batman Comics. They were created years later. Harley Quinn first appeared in Batman: The Animated Series in the 90s. Hush was created in 2003. Since they didn't appear in the first Batman comic, they won't enter the public domain any time soon.
So what that means is that anybody who wants to adapt the very first Batman comic can't use the more recent characters like Harley and Hush. Not without paying DC royalties. As for the character Batman, DC still owns him. So even though the first comic will be public domain in the next 11 years, whoever decides to adapt it can't call it Batman, or The Dark Knight. Maybe the main character can still be called Batman. But not the title itself.
If Superman is Public Domain, We don't need Supermen Ripoffs who are Already Public Domain years ago, when the Big Deal IS The Draw.
exactly
Im very excited for the lion's share of DC heroes coming to the public domain. As things are already, 2024 already seems like a big year given both Mickey Mouse and Buck Rogers are set to finally become free to use. Then Popeye tags along in 2025.
Mikey will never be Public Domain. Disney will pay the necessery so he dot become a part of Public Domain.
@@thebatman4848 see you in 2024 when the first dozen mickey shorts lapse and disney's attempts to trademark his appearances from said shorts fail completely just as they have with oswald.
Alot of people are already discussing the Superman situation because the expect they'll be restricted to exclusively just the first year of Action Comics appearances for a time. The thing is both the radio serials and the Fleischer shorts have been in the PD for decades. Arguably, you should be able to pull as much from those sources as you could from the first year of Action Comics stories. Presumably this even applies to Superman's emblem.
There would be alot of limitation once superman becomes public domain. Though that could be part of fun. As video said he won't even be flying, but that could be fun to work with. And flying could be used later on soon anyway.
@@DCclayster Finding foes for Superman to face off against is something Im really invested in. Also, thoughts on the timely/marvel heroes entering PD around the same time? namely Cap, Namor, and Jim Hammond Torch.
@@lazer-ape Lex will become Public Domain two years after, other notable villains would take longer, but we could have original villains/one from flesher cartoons. Superman don't demand his villains as much as batman's. Also interesting too see Cap and Namor in Public Domain assumably around same time. Just won't have as much connected marvel universe as DC ones would. But hey, could be fun too explore WW2 stories with Captain America.
@@DCclayster I know Jimmy Olsen, Ma Kent, and Pa Kent are just as far off as Bizarro, Metallo, and Brainiac for instance. But as far as Jimmy goes we have a stand in for him from the Fleischer shorts named "Louis".
@@lazer-ape Namor would be a good match against 1938 Superman. Original superman had greater strength because he was from a planet with stronger gravity. Namor is strong because he's used to having all of that water pressure on him. Original Supes could only jump like the Hulk and while bulletproof it wasn't established to what extent. Namor could potentially take him. Red Raven, Whizzer, Thin Man, Spider Queen, Volton, Fighting Yank/Spirit of 76, Ms America (the original) ought to be public domain in a few years i they aren't already.
In the next couple of years, we gonna get Betty Boop into the public domain which means a new animated show based on her can now happen
technically batman and superman are gonna be public domain following wonder woman
Ok i have my own loop holes to create And Give Robin a Night wing character
What's your idea?
@@DCclayster ok listen He can be Nightwing Without name he can change appearance and Modify his Robin suit into a more Black and blue Or Golden and blue
You can make him Night eagle or black Robin And change his sticks into Swords ⚔️
@@pkroninverse7307 I like the way you think. Alot of this would depend on execution and how stingy wb laywers are. I like the idea of him getting another mantle other than robin, people just can't call him Nightwing and avoid certain direct visual cues from his look. For example, JLU wasn't able to use aquaman characters at a certain point, so they re worked black manta into devil ray, and was made to look different. If nothing else, food for thought.
@@DCclayster Yes I know another loop hole I have
I will make him Wear a broken Batman armor not full armor you know
Then he will modify it Changes into athletic version and don't forget Swords
Winnie the Pooh is also now starring in a comic book as a demon slayer trying to keep five nations from going to war with each other. EDIT: Also, the reason why Superman was swapped to being able to fly was because of The Arctic Giant, where the people, now seeing it in motion, thought it looked silly with him jumping everywhere.
Funny enough I used footage in this video and I thought it was kinda cool, like being able to super jump, but soften his impact, almost like he could proto fly. Flying more ideal, but is worth trying for while.
Do not worry @@DCclayster . For when supes enters public domain, you can still have him fly. Just have it be because of something like gravity manipulation or fart power.
@@1fishmob not really worry. Public domain a bit of a sliding time scale, so since it was like 2 years after his creator superman flew, probably will be two years after entering public domain he'd fly there too.
@@DCclaysterShame, bean powered superman sounds like an amazing parody!
@@1fishmobHey, you seen how nuts people got with Blood and Honey with Winnie the Pooh? Basically if something wasn't created while under the license, it's game. could go crazy with superman once he enters. Just bound to hold on too certain aspects like visual cues or other characters.
And if the justice league are set to the enter public domain and we stop having franchises of Legion of superpets and krypto the superdog which I feel addicted to but can't get off my head?
Pooh bear will be easy to use because I have to do is avoid the red. Like for example the posh version of Pooh bear from the memes is fine to use.
Nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
Yeah, they'll enter public domain but they're trademarked so only them can use them.
I knnow they say they going into public domain but will it happen I mean I can't see DC not trying to put up a fight
I mean who knows what's planned, but of course they're gonna try holding on too what they can. Like when superman becomes public domain, it would still be few years till he could fly or have certain supporting characters. And couple decades before certain villains. Heck certain stories would be held onto. Point of video is too mention some the technicalities too come.
Fleischer Superman is already public domain 🤫
I think it'll be interesting because DC will still own their trademarks. I'm not a lawyer, but DC still does have their trademarks on their names and logos and maybe even their costumes too. So, I think it'll be a little bit more difficult than just sticking them into your story and that's that. A great example of this is Captain Marvel. Fawcett let several of his early issues including his first appearance fall into the public domain. DC in a backwards kind of way proved that when they submitted a list of Fawcett comics that they bought ownership of to a website that publishes public domain comics and there was a noticeable gap in issues involving Captain Marvel. Yet despite that you don't see anyone rushing out to use Captain Marvel and that's because DC trademarked things like the word Shazam, the name Billy Batson, his costume, etc. So, I don't think it'll be impossible to use these characters when they fall into the public domain, but I do think people will have to get creative to use them or else DC will have a team of lawyers just waiting to sue someone.
as Ive had it explained to me, you can name billy and cap within the confines of your work but you cannot expressly advertise your work as "captain marvel" or "shazam" or do the same with any of his supporting cast. however, once we reach the expiration date DC's hold over even that becomes pretty fuzzy. using trademarks as a mean to combat competition is a pretty recent development and alot of people are waiting and watching to see how it fares. but ultimately I expect it will do little in the way of keeping these characters from being free to use. only winnie the pooh and tarzan are the most pertinent examples at this time. the edgar rice burroughs estate even trademarked the name "tarzan" but as far as I know it doesnt prevent people from using the character
@@lazer-ape Got it! Trademarks have always confused me, but the more I learn about them it seems like that's more of a marketing thing versus a copyright thing. Which is I guess is good in a sense that someone like Captain Marvel could appear baring the same look and name as a supporting character in a story versus not at all.
@@justinclark397 it's one hundred percent a marketing thing. Disney going as far as to trademark Mickey's appearance in Steamboat Willie for example is just branding and whether they like it or not, wont impede people from using that incarnation as they see fit.
Are getting a sequel to dc league of superpets
Characters falling into pubic domain. That's nightmare for me
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They will never enter the public domain .
everything will enter public domain
I think copyrights can be renewed as long as certain requirements are met-publishing in certain media.
But if nothing stays copyright forever then it must enter the public domain @@taddallman-morton6796
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I really hope it won't go public domain
Why
Cause he will overshadow every other superman like hero in the public domain@@pkroninverse7307