BGA Rework Reflowing Reballing for Absolute Beginners - Tutorial Guide Part 1
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- Опубліковано 24 січ 2023
- This is a new series looking at BGA Rework, Reflow and Reballing. It's primarily aimed at beginners who have never done this before, or those who have tried and failed to do it successfully . In part one we are going to discuss what reflowing and reballing actually mean, dispel a few myths and misinformation and then start by learning to desolder some small BGA chips (GPU RAM) and clean the PCB and Chip ready for reballing using basic equipment.
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Richard
Finally I have a reason for why people swurl their hot air guns around, I was thinking it was just pointless since the whole point is to get heat onto the chip, but heating the area is a good/valid point.
I came here to learn how to be a baller.
😂😂😂😂
Looking forward to part 2 of this one... Just so interesting...
These are some great tips, wish I have watched this video first and then attempt the fix. Thank you for always delivering such a good content.🎉
Just found your channel its a great channel as I'm new to this type of repair and would like to learn more! thanks for your knowledge and sharing them
Awesome job don’t stop I’m still learning I could show what I did before your lesson learned a lot.
thank god for this video thank you for actually explaining
Thank you for the video and your channel. Your channel was one of many that inspired me to pick up the soldering iron again and I am enjoying it. I am struggling though to get the memory chips down again after reballing and so I am waiting with interest to see your technique. The first TV's I repaired had valves in so it has changed a bit 😄
Mark and Catherine C
Yeah soldering them down again is also the hard bit - mostly because of getting enough heat transfer to the balls to do it
The first TVs I repaired were also valve ones - I took my C&G in TV Radio and Electronics repair in the early 80s so we had to learn valve and semiconductor circuits. I actually consider myself luck to be formally trained in both 🙂
Well done, methodical approach for beginners. Remember to practice on unimportant stuff if it works again you are winning. 😉 #righttorepair
Exactly this ^^^
agreed! ... but will they do it... sadly... no they won't.
Thank you so much for this video, im learning so much
Thanks for the tips - been putting off replacing a medium sized BGA IC on an AV receiver that blew its lid from a rogue HDMI input ages ago - I’ve been soldering for 30+ years but never braved a hot air station (yet!) 😂
Looking forward to part 2 😁
Great informative video this pal
Nice work!
great video Richard :)
I am glad that you said that "reflowing" the GPU in graphics cards like this is a myth. Only butchers do that crap. Good, informative video thanks.
19:24 the 5 seconds before this, EXCELLENT TIP!
thanks for beginners tutorials on reflow,reball and rework kinda hard at first but needs more practice overtime to get things right but the tools needed would be a must investment first.
Minimum tools required will be on part two
I'll finally get around to building a pre heater at some point, I got the old board and display from my CR10 left over after an upgrade for the logic as well as the thermistors and the display, I'll most likely use a halogen security lamp as the heat source with an SSR to switch the mains voltage, should be an easy build..
Nice demonstration of how important a preheat-er is :), i personaly use the heated bed on my 3d printer gets to around 80-100c
I have an old 3d printer my brother gave me. I've been thinking of making something out of it, this seems perfect for it
Hi, nice video.
Reflow or desolder any bga is easyer with a preheater(i have the same🤗)
Importen is to learn to take time for heating the pcb carefully.
Otherwise bubbles will form on the pcb or bga
I didn't have to learn that once😵💫. Painfully (rip pcb+bga 😢)
As well the right tools are essential.
A trick to save the soldier balls. Both, the pcb and the bga to tin with low melted lead. Voila👍
Who is the Part two of the video😳😎?
Heya never done BGA work at all it seems cool I'm thinking about giving it a try
Agreed ... bring on part 2
I would say it's a mistake to assume that "bump gate" only affected nVidia. While it's true only they put their hands up (after a costly court loss) there's no evidence to suggest that any similar devices (e.g. from AMD) also manufactured by TSMC at the time *didn't* also suffer issues in the same order of magnitude. It was a fabrication not a design issue.
Keep up the good work :)
THANKS!!
I personally found reballing (apart from memory bank) always extremely daunting, it took me a long long time to get comfortable with it.
Working with the classic lead free high melting point solder spheres is a pain, thus I am using Sn42Bi57Ag1 Solder spheres, they work like a charm.
I should add that this alloy is very expensive compared to Leaded or standard lead free.
Just use ordinary 63/37 leaded balls - if you can remove a BGA with lead free balls, then you can replace it easier with leaded balls. Wouldn't trust that bismuth stuff on something that gets as hot as a GPU myself!
@@Sydney268 I’ve reballed memory and gpus, and I have yet to encounter problems, plus lead is very unhealthy
@@trouble_maker023 lead is only a problem once it ends up on the scrapfields. Also the lower melt solder u reball with the sooner it will have to be done again. Not sure why its so difficult for you to reball with regular leadfree solder. It takes a few seconds on low heat and airflow. Will they not melt when you do it?
@@trouble_maker023 fair enough, but I'm sticking to the real stuff! I'm sure there are much worse nasties in the flux than lead, and although solder balls do look nice on cakes, I don't tend to eat them 🤣
@@Sydney268 well the only thing in lead is lead, that stuff is pretty nasty, but hey to each their own 🙌
I don't know if it is fair to call it a "myth." Though not a "complete" fix it can make a good temporary fix. Back in those days I didn't have reballing equipment and did the oven trick 4 or 5 times over a 2-3 year period with sucess- long enough to get my money's worth out of my laptop until I had a technological excuse to upgrade. I also did this for family and friends. My guess is that as good as you are from a professional perspective, you probably have little experience from a halfazz perspective. Your way is better, but if outsouced usually comes with crazy fees, my way was free for people...
I would try to reflow with the hot air station and flux before actually removing it and going through the entire polava of reballing. the balls are still there they just became dry joints, with flux they should melt back together with the hot air station.
Very nicely done - thank you for showing us all the tricks. I wonder if the pre-heater thermostat is marked in degrees Fahrenheit 🤔.
Actually it may well be 😉
Very useful. A very informative watch Can you possible do some with your big rework station to see if you can configure it for that kind of memory module or even a cpu socket replacment be an interesting watch
Yes I will use that later in this series
nice
Thanks for a great video. What flux do you use.
Tools and all that will be on part two 😁
Alfie Solomons teaches reballing ;)
yay where is part two :)
I only just published part one, to test the water so to speak. Part two in the next few days
Is it possible to accomplish a bga replacement without a board heater/thermocouple? The chip is removed successfully and the new chip is pre-balled, and I’ll be using a temperature controlled station. I’ve seen others using 220c for the same job
Hello, could you tell us the model of your reballing station?
From what I was looking this up in the other resources they said not to put flux on all 4 corners or it'll create an air seal and not get under the BGA chip. Anyone know how true this is? I mean in theory sounds like it makes sense.
I think its not so important, The temperatura, the pre heater and enough time is more...
You use the hotair without noozle🤔
I do it in a simular way, I find flipping it over and heating it up first then go at the chip. But what ever works
IMO calling this 'reballing" is like calling like saying a trutle is a horse; because they both have four legs. Where's the solder balls, stencil, and jig? This is soldering... not reballing. Reballing is a complete PITA. Soldering these chips might work... as long as... you don't want it to last, don't flex the board, don't overheat the chip, don't flex on the heat sink... and know your lucky lottery number is about to pay off any day now.
This is part one - you have to practice and learn how to get the BGA chip off the board without damaging either of them before you can move forwards. Part two we are going to look at required equipment and the limitations of it, and then part three will definitely involve some reballing. It takes time to practice and learn this stuff, let's not get ahead of ourselves 😉
@@LearnElectronicsRepair Ok. Point taken. I guess I was getting ahead of myself. Looking forward to the other vids.
IMO, U don't need the braid... and if you use it... you will lift a pad off of the PCB...eventually... and it won't be a 20 year old scap PCB, it happens to.
What leads you to this opinion? Forget 'eventually' I used to lift pads off the PCB all the time when first using this technique until I learnt how to do it reliably by practicing using scrap stuff, and I then moved onto more worthwhile stuff once I gained some confidence and experience (thanks to some good advice and help from some guys on badcaps.net in particular)
Now I very rarely lift pads using braid to clean the PCB and BGA, but I am always willing to learn to do things better, so how do you do it without braid?
@@LearnElectronicsRepair Well... and perhaps it's not the best analogy...but, I used to watch high steel workers here... you know... incredibly skilled, and ultra-confident in the job they do: walking unlettered on high steel, hundreds of feet in the air.. and I always thought to myself, watching them... ya... I could do that too... after I fell a couple of times.
Reballing is not always necessary, watch channel repairschool