Form factor is on point. I wish more minipc would came out with an external graphic card that integrate so smoothly without cables and sharing the same power supply I also know you can integrate the Mind module with their monitor and keyboard and turning it into a laptop when you need it, it's well designed. Prices are crazy tho.
Right? It's a super cool system and concept but man the price kills me. You could build one solid upper tier gaming PC or two mid ranged PCs for the cost.
My brother said it'll take 10 years for this to happen NOPE its already here. I have A Kamrui, 16 GB Ram Windows 11 and not even close to whats in this video. Nearly a year later someone already created a real mini gaming pc. Salute
This looks so great, think it'll be a good addition to those who have ultrabooks or like myself the razer stealth blade. Would have to wait for a sale but hopefully more companies do the same, can't wait!
Heck yea we wanna see a handheld connected. I would prefer the legion go over usb4. And compare it to the egpu rx 7600m xt. I'd like to see how they differ in preformance.
Man, everything about these Khadas contraptions is dope, I love their minimalistic sleek design and all that, I'm not even going to front but jeepers the price tag though. I'm definitely not the target audience.
It’s also a dock and has a sfx PSU. $1000 is too much but if you tried to make something similar you’d probably drop $700 and it wouldn’t be nearly as small with as much in the way in IO
Yeah! You could build one WAY cheaper BUT, you wouldn't have that "portability" of the main computer. Personally it's TOO pricey and do NOT need that compact mini PC. Nevertheless, it's still a GREAT video because I'm sure there are MANY people out that WANT this and be the "solution" for them.
Awesome product, as its showing how to develop this category of PC. For the R&D it's a suitable price, as the ecosystem form factor will get cheaper over time.
I have imagined a few years back that the future of PC building will be modular like this. Just have to wait 'till prices comes down a bit. I also would have preferred if they made a GPU enclosure using both USB4 and OccuLink that can accommodate big 3rd party GPUs. I still have my GTX 1080Ti, RTX2080Ti, and RTX 3090 waiting for a good GPU enclosure that can fit them. 😔
Great coverage on this unique ecosystem. I would absolutely be interested in this...IF the price wasn't so steep. I can't see spending more than $1000 for the two combined....especially when I can get a comparable laptop for around $1k.
Hope all those interesting accessories could be on the market soon, cause this is a very interesting product, but I hope with the time it could be also more affordable cause at now it’s a very expensive brand, not only this but other products aren’t cheap despite its great quality
@@Firestrike337 so the smaller of the two is meant to be the brains of the computer, and is meant to be part of an ecosystem of components, including a more dockable unit for office/home setups, as well as a tablet-like experience. The ideal setup of these types of devices is having the smaller of the two to be with you all the time like your smartphone, having it docked for a home office setup, can be taken to the office, or to be used for more intense usage with this type of eGPU layout. For the general market, this is incredibly niche, since its main competition would be highly efficient laptops that are taken all over the place.
With all the 13th and 14th gen Intel CPU issues surfacing lately this having a 13th gen Intel CPU is kind of scary. Hopefully they release an AMD based system in the future.
The biggest drawback for me is the graphics module. If it came empty at a MUCH cheaper price and allowed you to add any GPU (like the Beelink module) it would be MUCH more enticing.
Imagine a modular pc but instead of being mini and using proprietary parts it's bigger and uses standardized parts that are a lot cheaper for the same performance
Would be nice if you included what type of HDMI and Display port was on the device. It wasn't until getting an ultrawide monitor did this matter to me at all but it's amazing how many devices don't properly support 5120 x 1440 resolution never mind with HDR or high refresh
Man I just wish someone would make something like this but with the 7945x3d cpu. There are like no units with that cpu and a decent gpu besides a couple laptops.
Almost $2k for a system that is going to struggle with 1440p Ultimate (8GB of ram?) is ridiculous. I just put together a fractal ridge build with similar specs: a 4060 Ti 16GB for around $1000 with some saavy shopping and sales watching and that's the 16 GB variant and I can upgrade components over time and it looks nice in my media room.
Looks like an application of USB 5 for the EGPU, in which case the bandwidth advertised is a lie as only half of it will be available for the GPU, or it's possibly the first commercially available 8x4 Oculink dock, in which case I congratulate them, be it the market should see them become more widely available over the next year or so for a fraction of the price.
The thing I find so funny about these little things, is that no matter how innovative they are, they completely get obsoleted by any laptop near its price category. There's absolutely no point in spending $2,000 on this, when you could just get a laptop that gives you more freedom, removes the need for wallpower, and provides you every tool you need to use the machine. Not to mention that any $2,000 laptop will be way faster than this
at this point, they should have integrated the CPU to this module or create a NUC of out these two parts and sell it for just about the same price or just $50-100 more
Kids these days Don't know that AMD and Nvidia used to be best Pals when building a PC but for the last 20 years its been Intel and Nvidia Now Intel Has Desktop grade Gpu's and Nvidia are Working on having their own CPU's Crazy how much things have changed!
I just don't get the use-case. Without a screen you can't exactly pop it off and take it on vacation with you. if you're going to bring a screen you might as well bring a laptop. People are mainly complaining about the price, but I just don't get the concept in general.
So, just to be clear, you can't actually run the mini pc off of the battery? It has to be plugged in for that? The battery is only for maintaining sleep mode?
Why would they even ship it with an 8Gb 4060? Why not just the 16Gb version? I continue to not want these weird eGPU units. What I want is an eGPU box that I can install a GPU in, plus additional cooling, and supports both USB 4 and Oculink, and ideally, is upgradeable to support USB 5 or Oculink 2 in the future with modular parts. An eGPU should really just support whatever graphics card you have available, and provide it at the highest bandwidth possible. It's only when we reach that point we can expect them to take of.
@k1ngarthur290 wow, you REALLY wanted that GPU! By contrast, I built a PC shortly before COVID lockdowns and reused my old Radeon HD 6850 1GB thinking the price of new GPUs would trend down $10 - $30 eventually. I ended up using that ancient card another 2 years waiting for the absurd price gouging to end.😂 I ended up with an Intel Arc a750 for $180, and I'm pretty happy with it.
I know these small machines are cool and fun to play with, but I feel like these things are just for people with money to burn, which most people can't afford. I think you should at least mention the price up front, because it seems like your channel is just shilling expensive stuff that no one can actually afford. Again, these are really cool, but you're going to lose viewers if you aren't more upfront with the cost of these things.
@@youyoue4260 I don't think it's weird to have a negative reaction to a product video where the price of said product isn't discussed. That is the most important aspect of any product for most people. Whether or not one could even afford it or not. Otherwise might as well be reviewing gold Rolex's or some other overly expensive things that most people could never hope to afford. I do think these machines are cool and I look forward to them becoming cheaper in the future, but that doesn't change the the sour taste from digging into the cost of these machines that should at least be mentioned. That's all I am saying.
@@HeLookAlikeAman_ Stop whining and be happy, he covers a wide range of product categories and price products. Better redirect your energy to making some more money.
It's no different from buy a huge AZZ gaming PC 😂 It's called the future. Anything futuristic or alien like always was small buy packed a big punch under the hood. Nobody was complaining when PSP, Gameboy advanced and so many small technology came out. Ben 10 is another example, Black Panther etc. stuff like that is just beyond your belief
Not sure I see the point of the detachable GPU module. It looks too small to have higher end options of GPU. So unless the company is going to commit to at least one or two generation cycles of nvidia upgrades, it might as well just be build in.
Egpu’s are the future for mini pc’s. Buy a nice mini pc with a lasting cpu, upgradable ram and m.2 ssd slots, and then you have interchangeable gpu’s. Now, with the price they are at, this isnt viable lol
This was meant to be upgradeable when they originally marketed it. Its so expensive for that GPU, can literally build an entire 4060 pc, of the same size for that price. If it was $400-$500 and upgradable yourself, it would be amazing.
This GPU dock is 2.63L, and the smallest mITX case I know of that can fit a compact 4060Ti is 3.99L. That's 52% larger than the dock, but if you know of a smaller DIY solution, I'd love to know.
@@Kuriketto How much you recon that dock plus the pc part costs when combined? A 4060ti is £350-£400? Plus for that 52% larger space, what do you get fully upgradeable components, for the same price as just that dock, ignoring the fact that you also have to pay a lot of money for that pc. Paying a £400 premium just for the size of it, is really not justified in this instance sadly. It's a very cool thing, and it's still good, however at the right price, as there is nothing like it on the market right now.
@@moleyboy9650 This might make sense for some because this is a niche product after all, but obviously not worth it for most people. To be fair the dock has a TB port, too, so it's not necessarily tied to just the Mind mini PC. I'm actually asking if anybody knows about a smaller DIY solution. Not smaller than this dock, mind you, but substantially sub-4L.
@@michaelwest4594 rnd, n if u look at it, this is small company. so if u like it and have money, buy it, if its too expensive just skip and build pc like normally
Cool concept but 1k for a 4060 is crazy
@@WuFluChan crazy?, it's insane, you can build AMD PC build with just for 500$ or less, RX 6000 card and Ryzen 5 5600x process
I agree, I just looked at 4060 ti prices in my country Oz, converted to usd is around 350 usd.
*maybe up to 380 USD. But still. What a premium to house it in that box.
And with the mini PC, it's close to $1,700-$1,800 lol
It is small and cute though, price is fair and you cant build something like this.
Almost $2000?
NeverMIND
You could build a 4k gaming rig for that.
@@leighjenkins5601exactly 💯
@@leighjenkins5601 that was I'm gonna say that😅
Form factor is on point.
I wish more minipc would came out with an external graphic card that integrate so smoothly without cables and sharing the same power supply
I also know you can integrate the Mind module with their monitor and keyboard and turning it into a laptop when you need it, it's well designed.
Prices are crazy tho.
Their whole ecosystem is so cool, but it's really hard to justify the price on this.
I agree, from my perspective it makes more sense tonme to buy a Legion Go and connect a DIY eGPU wit usb4
Right? It's a super cool system and concept but man the price kills me. You could build one solid upper tier gaming PC or two mid ranged PCs for the cost.
@@y4lnux this is not a stable setup, its cheaper but it does't work that well
This is incredible, love the modularity.
My brother said it'll take 10 years for this to happen NOPE its already here. I have A Kamrui, 16 GB Ram Windows 11 and not even close to whats in this video. Nearly a year later someone already created a real mini gaming pc. Salute
wish they made a mind with ryzen and 780m graphics
Looks awesome! Reminds me 1980s with all these Commodores, ZX Spectrum addons.
I'm glad they were able to deliver to their kickstarter supporters. I can only hope the dock format makes its way into other products as well.
It's a nice case, I think I like it, it has a simple design.
This looks so great, think it'll be a good addition to those who have ultrabooks or like myself the razer stealth blade. Would have to wait for a sale but hopefully more companies do the same, can't wait!
Heck yea we wanna see a handheld connected. I would prefer the legion go over usb4. And compare it to the egpu rx 7600m xt. I'd like to see how they differ in preformance.
O doubted! But now I'm shocked! 😱
it's a nice looking mini pc, ngl.
Man, everything about these Khadas contraptions is dope, I love their minimalistic sleek design and all that, I'm not even going to front but jeepers the price tag though. I'm definitely not the target audience.
That's cool but $1000 for a $400 GPU is a tough sell.
It’s also a dock and has a sfx PSU. $1000 is too much but if you tried to make something similar you’d probably drop $700 and it wouldn’t be nearly as small with as much in the way in IO
Yeah! You could build one WAY cheaper BUT, you wouldn't have that "portability" of the main computer. Personally it's TOO pricey and do NOT need that compact mini PC. Nevertheless, it's still a GREAT video because I'm sure there are MANY people out that WANT this and be the "solution" for them.
This is what a Steam Deck dock needs to be
Awesome product, as its showing how to develop this category of PC. For the R&D it's a suitable price, as the ecosystem form factor will get cheaper over time.
This entire setup is almost 2 grand. Come on man...I thought the entire point of mini pcs were to be less expensive.
The smaller the more expensive if you want power.
If you think about it, these mini pcs are just "laptops" without the peripherals. At a certain point, you're better off buying a laptop anyway.
The whole point of mini PC's is to be small.
Powerful, cheap, small: Pick 2
@@dstarr3 Does powerful and cheap ever really happen with PC's? Maybe if you only need threads regardless of how fast they are.
I LOVE THIS. Can you swap bases? In otherwords can you have two bases in two locations and plug and play. Ie office/home.
interesting
I have imagined a few years back that the future of PC building will be modular like this. Just have to wait 'till prices comes down a bit. I also would have preferred if they made a GPU enclosure using both USB4 and OccuLink that can accommodate big 3rd party GPUs. I still have my GTX 1080Ti, RTX2080Ti, and RTX 3090 waiting for a good GPU enclosure that can fit them. 😔
I want a NAS add-on for this. That would be sick.
could you imagine in the 90s to have modular pcs?
Great coverage on this unique ecosystem. I would absolutely be interested in this...IF the price wasn't so steep. I can't see spending more than $1000 for the two combined....especially when I can get a comparable laptop for around $1k.
That is amazing!!!!
Rachet is amazing because it has Rivet in it 😅 (and also good graphics finally)
It looks beautifully designed and interesting. I'd like to see what Khadas does in the future.
this is a great design i hope with time and wider adoption prices will come down
I would like to see in the gameplays: The First Descendant, Counter Strike, Elden Ring
Yee God's that form factor really drives up the price range close to 2k usd
It's super neat! I dig it. But at a 2K price tag, why not just build a better spec'd mini ITX???
this is magic.
Yep added to cart.
Bye bye money...
@@TroutButter $2000 💨
so, how is it ?
Those are prices that make this video and educational video and thats all
If they made a handheld attachment or a laptop attachment, this would be the best PC anybody could ever buy
They have already announced a laptop-like attachment but I don't think it's out yet.
@@hagentertainment that’s awesome!!!!
please add to your videos fan noise and price for the units you review it would help a lot
legion go plus this please. bonus points if it's a modded 32gb one!
At this point, we just need PCIE 4 usb solution
PCIE 3 one hang on for way too long
@@Johnnyynf thunderbolt 5 looks like it's right around the corner
@addvector4918 it's already available, just no TB5 EGPU docks commercially available yet (though this looks to be one in disguise).
Hope all those interesting accessories could be on the market soon, cause this is a very interesting product, but I hope with the time it could be also more affordable cause at now it’s a very expensive brand, not only this but other products aren’t cheap despite its great quality
似たようなUMPC向けのGPU搭載のドックが出てほしい。
Expected more… is this any better than oculink in terms of performance?
So what’s the point separating two pieces?
@@Firestrike337 so the smaller of the two is meant to be the brains of the computer, and is meant to be part of an ecosystem of components, including a more dockable unit for office/home setups, as well as a tablet-like experience.
The ideal setup of these types of devices is having the smaller of the two to be with you all the time like your smartphone, having it docked for a home office setup, can be taken to the office, or to be used for more intense usage with this type of eGPU layout.
For the general market, this is incredibly niche, since its main competition would be highly efficient laptops that are taken all over the place.
Ah it's just an ARM and a LEG, phew !
Thought you'd need to sell your kidneys too !
Its nice that it can play all these triple A games but what I would like to know is if it can run and play Star Citizen?
With all the 13th and 14th gen Intel CPU issues surfacing lately this having a 13th gen Intel CPU is kind of scary. Hopefully they release an AMD based system in the future.
a m.2 slot on the dock would be nice for game storage
The biggest drawback for me is the graphics module. If it came empty at a MUCH cheaper price and allowed you to add any GPU (like the Beelink module) it would be MUCH more enticing.
Imagine a modular pc but instead of being mini and using proprietary parts it's bigger and uses standardized parts that are a lot cheaper for the same performance
Very interesting and unique product line, but I think the price will keep this from being truly successful, just like the new ROG NUC
$600-700usd would be more appealing for that gpu dock to directly compete with onexgpu and gpd g1
$999 way to expensive
Why don’t laptop have this socket feature. Looks like it can become universal feature for both laptop and handheld gaming devices
Would be nice if you included what type of HDMI and Display port was on the device. It wasn't until getting an ultrawide monitor did this matter to me at all but it's amazing how many devices don't properly support 5120 x 1440 resolution never mind with HDR or high refresh
I found a new oculink gpu dock called EG01C. It might be good for minipcs. What do you think?🤔
Better to go with a mini pc with oculink and get the GDP 7600M dock, YOU WILL SPEND 1100 DOLLARS for this combo!!! and almost same performances!!
Man I just wish someone would make something like this but with the 7945x3d cpu. There are like no units with that cpu and a decent gpu besides a couple laptops.
Absolutely unhinged pricing wow. Cool though.
is there any way you can recommend the company to apply the same concept but using AMD cpus?
Almost $2k for a system that is going to struggle with 1440p Ultimate (8GB of ram?) is ridiculous. I just put together a fractal ridge build with similar specs: a 4060 Ti 16GB for around $1000 with some saavy shopping and sales watching and that's the 16 GB variant and I can upgrade components over time and it looks nice in my media room.
slim and integrated tech are expensive, its why laptops are, true that desktop pc offer best performance
Why no swap option for the GPU.. this with a 4090 and i would buy the whole egosystem
I think I'd rather get desktop than this. Attaching that bulking graphics doc, seems a bit weird.
its cool but hard to understanmd a use case for something like this.
If it was 800$ maybe I'd buy it
Emulation Tests please 😁🥺
Looks like an application of USB 5 for the EGPU, in which case the bandwidth advertised is a lie as only half of it will be available for the GPU, or it's possibly the first commercially available 8x4 Oculink dock, in which case I congratulate them, be it the market should see them become more widely available over the next year or so for a fraction of the price.
Would this work with the ROG ally X?
The thing I find so funny about these little things, is that no matter how innovative they are, they completely get obsoleted by any laptop near its price category. There's absolutely no point in spending $2,000 on this, when you could just get a laptop that gives you more freedom, removes the need for wallpower, and provides you every tool you need to use the machine. Not to mention that any $2,000 laptop will be way faster than this
Is there any product out there that could beef the graphics of my Phantom Canyon NUC?
just get a laptop at the 1800$ price point...even better, you'd get an i9. 32gb of ram and a 4070 at 1500$ with a 144hz screen too.
Can we see with Legion Go Please? would be very interesting.
can graphic dock use generic GPU unit plug in. otherwise stuck with buying their gpu dock as new.
I wondered if there was a 4090 version of this. I also wondered if it would be available for sale in Turkey.
If this with a 4060 is $1,000 then a 4090 version (which doesn't exist) would be like $4-5K probably.
I understand thank you@@TroutButter
at this point, they should have integrated the CPU to this module or create a NUC of out these two parts and sell it for just about the same price or just $50-100 more
what monitor were you using in this video?
so expensive , I'll pass
Wow, imagine paying for a smaller toyota corolla with a price of a sports car. Amazing isn't it?
What was that thing u put in? It's PC just dock for ssd?
Better to Buy a Mini Cheap PC which is more powerful than 5900x or more can buy a 4060 GPU and use it a EGPU instead with Thunderbolt Port or whatever
I may pick one up for my sis
is there an mxm card inside?
Kids these days Don't know that AMD and Nvidia used to be best Pals when building a PC but for the last 20 years its been Intel and Nvidia Now Intel Has Desktop grade Gpu's and Nvidia are Working on having their own CPU's Crazy how much things have changed!
Is there a cheaper alternative yet??
I just don't get the use-case. Without a screen you can't exactly pop it off and take it on vacation with you. if you're going to bring a screen you might as well bring a laptop. People are mainly complaining about the price, but I just don't get the concept in general.
So, just to be clear, you can't actually run the mini pc off of the battery? It has to be plugged in for that? The battery is only for maintaining sleep mode?
Yes that is correct. The battery is really just for transporting the system from room to room or on a road trip.
The mind concept is good but the pricing is ridiculous.
The GPU dock took way too long to arrive.
Why would they even ship it with an 8Gb 4060? Why not just the 16Gb version? I continue to not want these weird eGPU units. What I want is an eGPU box that I can install a GPU in, plus additional cooling, and supports both USB 4 and Oculink, and ideally, is upgradeable to support USB 5 or Oculink 2 in the future with modular parts. An eGPU should really just support whatever graphics card you have available, and provide it at the highest bandwidth possible. It's only when we reach that point we can expect them to take of.
If it was a 4090 or 4080 it would be fine for the price
4070 should be bare minimum for these kind of things.
Let’s see it with the minisforum v3
1000 bucks for a 220 bucks gpu lol
I paid 6000 for mine had to camp out for it first in first served
@k1ngarthur290 wow, you REALLY wanted that GPU! By contrast, I built a PC shortly before COVID lockdowns and reused my old Radeon HD 6850 1GB thinking the price of new GPUs would trend down $10 - $30 eventually. I ended up using that ancient card another 2 years waiting for the absurd price gouging to end.😂 I ended up with an Intel Arc a750 for $180, and I'm pretty happy with it.
I know these small machines are cool and fun to play with, but I feel like these things are just for people with money to burn, which most people can't afford. I think you should at least mention the price up front, because it seems like your channel is just shilling expensive stuff that no one can actually afford. Again, these are really cool, but you're going to lose viewers if you aren't more upfront with the cost of these things.
strange comment
@@youyoue4260 I don't think it's weird to have a negative reaction to a product video where the price of said product isn't discussed. That is the most important aspect of any product for most people. Whether or not one could even afford it or not. Otherwise might as well be reviewing gold Rolex's or some other overly expensive things that most people could never hope to afford.
I do think these machines are cool and I look forward to them becoming cheaper in the future, but that doesn't change the the sour taste from digging into the cost of these machines that should at least be mentioned. That's all I am saying.
@@HeLookAlikeAman_ Stop whining and be happy, he covers a wide range of product categories and price products. Better redirect your energy to making some more money.
Cry more dude. Just google it if you need price ASAP. Not that serious to write a book about.
It's no different from buy a huge AZZ gaming PC 😂 It's called the future. Anything futuristic or alien like always was small buy packed a big punch under the hood. Nobody was complaining when PSP, Gameboy advanced and so many small technology came out. Ben 10 is another example, Black Panther etc. stuff like that is just beyond your belief
Not sure I see the point of the detachable GPU module. It looks too small to have higher end options of GPU. So unless the company is going to commit to at least one or two generation cycles of nvidia upgrades, it might as well just be build in.
Egpu’s are the future for mini pc’s. Buy a nice mini pc with a lasting cpu, upgradable ram and m.2 ssd slots, and then you have interchangeable gpu’s. Now, with the price they are at, this isnt viable lol
I knew it, it would cost a lot. It would be good if it was cheaper.
for the price just buy a modular fw16 with just the mainboard and dgpu lol
Omg thats so cool, sadly i bought a few month ago new hardware :/
This was meant to be upgradeable when they originally marketed it. Its so expensive for that GPU, can literally build an entire 4060 pc, of the same size for that price. If it was $400-$500 and upgradable yourself, it would be amazing.
This GPU dock is 2.63L, and the smallest mITX case I know of that can fit a compact 4060Ti is 3.99L. That's 52% larger than the dock, but if you know of a smaller DIY solution, I'd love to know.
@@Kuriketto How much you recon that dock plus the pc part costs when combined? A 4060ti is £350-£400? Plus for that 52% larger space, what do you get fully upgradeable components, for the same price as just that dock, ignoring the fact that you also have to pay a lot of money for that pc. Paying a £400 premium just for the size of it, is really not justified in this instance sadly. It's a very cool thing, and it's still good, however at the right price, as there is nothing like it on the market right now.
@@moleyboy9650 This might make sense for some because this is a niche product after all, but obviously not worth it for most people. To be fair the dock has a TB port, too, so it's not necessarily tied to just the Mind mini PC. I'm actually asking if anybody knows about a smaller DIY solution. Not smaller than this dock, mind you, but substantially sub-4L.
only support x4 gen4？ where is x8？
why is it so expensive lol
Price?
@@8sgen2 1800 dollar both
@@8sgen2 close to 700$ for the base model.
Small company and niche product
@@michaelwest4594 rnd, n if u look at it, this is small company. so if u like it and have money, buy it, if its too expensive just skip and build pc like normally