Universal Orlando's 4th Gate - ParkStop Podcast: Episode 3
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- / themeparkstop Alicia and Ian dig deep into 4th park rumors for Universal Orlando, including rumored lands and rides, park name, and even infrastructure changes filed with the city.
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Today we're looking at that giant new theme park Universal Orlando doesn't want you to know they're building. It's located a few miles south of the current resort, near the Orange County Convention Center. We're calling it the 4th gate because Universal has called Volcano Bay their 3rd gate, so while this is technically their 3rd THEME PARK in Orlando, it's their 4th GATE. We're going over technical details like permits filed for new roads, parking lots and water drainage, but also exploring rumors for new ride systems and exciting properties to fill out this new theme park. Hooray for Fantastic Worlds (or whatever they end up calling it)!
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What would you like to see at the new park?
Remember, you can find links to the audio version of the podcast in the description.
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Omg underground theme park?!?!?!?!?!?! Maybe Nintendo on top and the ministry of magic underground....
I'll tell you what I want to see. A new land themed entirely after DreamWorks animation with rides such as a Madagascar boat ride, a Kung Fu Panda dark shooter ride (like Voyage to the Iron Reef at Knott's Berry Farm or Justice League: Battle for Metropolis at the Six Flags parks), and their own version of the Flight of Passage themed after How to Train Your Dragon.
Theme Park Stop by Alicia Stella, I would love to see The Ministry of Magic! This would result in great competition for Disney when they open Star Wars!
Theme Park Stop by Alicia Stella Twister the ride to come back as well as other beloved attractions that are now extinct. They could maybe even build dueling dragons again or jaws. I also would like to see a dive coaster or another flying dinosaur ride. A drop tower similar to falcons fury. Maybe a ride like: journey to the planet core made in planet coaster. And something original.
It’s crazy how far things have come in the last several years. Not just with this park, but the podcast as well! It’s crazy how long we’ve all been waiting for this park and how close we are now!
This was just over 5 years from today. Alicia as always breaking not only some real, breaking news, but so much investigative insight and new information. We're now a year away from opening, and we're now seeing the attractions completed, the landscaping coming together, and final construction of the entrance. UA-cam has been such a great place to follow these stories. What's more interesting for me in the UK is that we've just had word that land has been purchased by ComCast here in the UK, and that we're getting a park. So in 5 years time I'd like to think we'd be finishing up out version. Thanks Alicia.
And you better believe I will be following along with the UK project in just the same in-depth way as I did for Epic! (After all, I kicked it off by finding the land sale documents after all.)
Ian’s comment about Universal announcing this is so on point. Universal and Disney have two different PR styles. Disney announces years in advance to build hype and then people complain about how long it takes. Universal waits until it’s half way done although people who follow know what is going in. Although Disney loves the hype, they really hurt themselves when plans change from the artist renditions they release way in advance, ie TSL not having Al’s Toy Barn or Woody’s Roundup.
I get we’re in a different era with theme parks now, but it would be refreshing to see a whole world or land at this theme park that is all original with original attractions
It is sad that neither of us even brought that up. We’re already used to the current climate. In Universal’s defense, original concepts have never really been their thing. But I’d love to see Disney get back to their Haunted Mansion/Pirates day’s and create something entirely new.
Theme Park Stop by Alicia Stella lol you guys are great, it’s just the times we’re in. But you are absolutely right, Disney is the one that needs to show the industry original attractions still work, and are quite successful**cough cough** Mystic Manor. Unfortunately, I just don’t see any non-IP rides coming to WDW for the foreseeable future :(
@@AMagicProduction Somebody asked Rob of Rob Plays if he ever thought Disney would go back to making original attractions, and he said "yes, but only after Bob Iger steps down as CEO".
Old-school Disneyland was more IP-based than we remember: the Fantasyland rides are obvious, but also much of Frontierland was a tie-in with the Davy Crockett TV show, and Adventureland with the "True-Life Adventures" nature series. But I think part of the reason they concentrated on original ideas from the late 1960s into the '80s was that in those days, they just didn't have that many new hit IPs to base things on. Now they've got all this stuff they paid top dollar for...
I’ve always said Star Wars land is the Frontierland of this generation.
The one thing Universal has been original at is developing their HHN icons year in and year out, which is a good case in point as to why a dark ride with the icons would make for a great idea. Will Universal pursue this venture? Probably not. But who knows, if the Classic Monsters World is indeed planned, I can't see why they wouldn't want to dedicate a piece of that world to HHN.
Maybe they can use some of that land to dig a big hole and bury everything that has to do with the fast and furious ride in it....
I will gladly take some of the cars in the que though. I want that Daytona.
That would be great. The ride is an absolute piece of shit.
Amen to that. What a shit attraction.
I miss disaster ride.
I love this podcast series so much!! Listening and watching all of the developments happening makes me very excited for all of the things to come to Universal. Keep it up! 🌎💞
The other thing about Star Trek is that the IP has weird rights issues right now, with the franchise split up between CBS and Paramount. A theme-park land now would probably be asking for legal trouble.
I really hope they build and design the new park with Horror Nights in mind. Just because the studios is getting more and more packed every year
They've hosted hhn at IOA a few times before, so id like to see that happen with the new park.
Universal has had some kind of idea since forever that the classic movie monsters are their great IP franchise, but it seems like they've never quite known what to do with it.. The 1999 Mummy worked, but they didn't even manage to revive that properly. But the Haunted Mansion-style ride with the old-school monsters, maybe make it just a little camp... I would be so there.
Thank you for the updates. This podcast is onto something good.
Ok so... after watching, a few thoughts PLUS a stretch:
- Nintendo Land.
- World Of Dreamworks, if bunching it all together (can’t see them doing more than 4-5 properties within dreamworks), if they keep Shrek where it’s at, we can say Kung Fu Panda, Trolls, Madagascar, and How To Train Your Dragon. They could keep the Secret Life of Pets parade float, to cover that property, because, let’s face it, the movie was not that good.
- The World Of Monsters would be ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! Maybe do a meet & greet for every classic universal monster? Can’t really think of any rides that would go along with that sense. Maybe a walkthrough of highly detailed sets of each of the classic monsters? Instead of a hotel for just one monster, what about a central hotel, but each of the “wings” of the hotel are themed to each monster? Hall of Dracula’s Castle, a few “cabin rooms” on a swampy Marsh, laboratory of Frankenstein’s castle, and then maybe even an Ancient Egypt Pyramid section?
- Fantastic Beasts is a gimme, in my mindset. I don’t think it would be named Fantastic Beasts though, if the new park is Fantastic Worlds. Maybe “Beasts of the Wizarding World”.
- Jurassic World/Park needs to stay in IOA.
- Gotta think they won’t touch Lord of the Rings, Star Trek, Ready Player One (would be better as a VR), or Doctor Who.
My Stretch: 🗣GIVE US BACK TO THE FUTURE BACK! Imagine a world, where it’s 3 “miniworlds”, something like Worlds of Dreamworks, where it’s Hill Valley in 1885, Hill Valley in 1955, and Hill Valley in “2015”. And don’t worry about Hilly Valley in 1985, because it would just be normal. You’d hit all the timelines: the Wild West, the Past, and the “future”. Its timeless, it hits all of the major age ranges, and they could “reboot” a Back to the Future simulator, put in 3 separate diners (one from each decade). Then maybe throw in a Biff’s Car Chase ride in the 1955 section? Bring all 3 time machines from Universal Orlando, and have them on display in each section. Now THAT, would be cool!
@Jonathan Pal Great minds think alike! Love your ideas! How are we not getting paid for this!?
Shrek is gonna be replaced by Secret life of Pets. And Universal closes attractions for a reason because they under perform or just extremely outdated like Jaws! Don’t get me wrong Jaws was a cool ride when I first went to Universal 20 years ago
These podcasts are perfect to play on your phone under your pillow when your going to sleep. Thanks for the great content guys!
Yknow, a Kongfrontation style Godzilla ride would be pretty incredible with just his head. Maybe the same, but with a boat ride. A Kongfrontation-Jaws ride. Jawszillatation.
My new favorite podcast!!! Love the content of your shows!
That’s so great to hear! Tell all your friends!
It would be great if Universal moved the recording studios, storage and offices to this new area and expanded the current site. It gets very smelly around there and Sand Lake Road is already busy.
Gotta love how the logo of parkstop has Mickey and Mario with Mickey representing Disney theme parks and Mario representing Universal Studios theme parks
Mario and Zelda would be amazing! What would really make me happy, is re-vamped versions of classic Universal rides like Dueling Dragons and Jaws. I'd also really enjoy a fantasy medieval-style world somewhere within the new park. It would allow for so much awesome theming! I think the Classic Monsters would be so cool, Dracula's Castle-Hotel would be the best thing ever! I'd stay there every time!
But I honestly don't care to see anything DreamWorks, except maybe How To Train Your Dragon. I also don't want this park to be entirely child-based. We need more thrill rides!
These podcasts are my main sources of information keep up the great work 👍 😂
This was great. Really enjoyed it
Accidentally stumbled upon this. It was great to listen to, thanks!
I want Fantastic Beats or Harry Potter!😃 They make so much money with merchandise in Universal and Islands, that park will be bomb and won’t have any sort of competition!
Just became a patron today. Keep up the good work I love your videos and podcasts and can’t wait to see all my favorite youtubers in Charityland!!!
Thank you so much for your support! Means the world to us. See you Sunday on Charityland!
The classic horror films like Frankenstein should somehow be tied back into the park in a genuine way. A Frankenstein ride would be interesting, especially since it's one of Universals most iconic monsters.
I really enjoyed this. Thank you so much.
Can't wait to come home from work and watc- er, listen to this.
Yay! It's my FAVORITE podcast!! Woot! Woot!
More Warner Brothers? It would never happen, but I'd love to see an Animaniacs ride. As for Universal IP, I'd also love to see Jaws come back in some form or another, I think it's an important part of the studio's legacy. It's pretty baffling how few of the rides they have now are actually based on Universal movies.
I hope we get some good transportation to city walk from this new park (in other words not a bus😂) as that was something me and my family enjoyed about universal- how connected it was. Hopefully the transportation will also stop by volcano bay!
Yeah, the wonderful thing about Universal Orlando vs. Disney is that you really don't have to worry about transport if you stay at most of the resorts on property--you can just hop a water taxi at any time and get to the front gates in a few minutes, and walking there is even feasible. A day at Disney World involves planning in something like a work commute. The new park is going to change the Universal situation a bit.
Another great episode! Really great job, Alicia and Ian! I'm so excited for this new park!!!
My 2 week Orlando holiday will soon be 3 weeks. Orlando by 2025 will be amazing!
So excited for you, have fun when you’re in town! The theme park wars are so great for us, so many new things coming in the next few years.
what is the line up for opening rides each year till 2023?
and do you think they will do HHN at both parks again or at the new one once it’s built?
i hope they design the Dracula castle in the center of monster world like the dark version of cinderella’s castle.
It's hard to tell with all their plans being shifted around, but I would guess something like the following:
2019: Potter Coaster at IOA & T2 Show Replacement in USF
2020: Volcano Bay additions
2021: Jurassic Park Coaster in IOA
2022: KidsZone replacement at USF (Maybe)
They could technically use the Madagascar ride from the Asian parks.
They're apparently bringing the new beauty and Beast ride to Disneyland to get the most bang for their buck as the tech is already been designed.
Love this podcast!
They're even talking about buy Locky martin a new building and moving them
Hopefully how to train your dragon gets a slot! Then they could possible return duelling dragons with a modern twist ! (VR)
Shrek 4-D may be old, but Shrek is HUGE among the current 11-17 set thanks to ironic Internet poop. Its cultural currency has had this weird mutant revival with kids that I think the rest of us are missing. I can't imagine Universal wouldn't capitalize on that.
It's kind of like the way old Disney properties like Fantasia and Alice in Wonderland popped up again as psychedelic head movies during the late 60s.
You are now my go to expert on the teens/poop nexus.
more like diarrhea!
I'M FREAKING OUT IMAGINING A THEME PARK OS DOCTOR WHO
No more Doctor Who Christmas Special. It will be for New Years.
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Ninja Vs Unicorn is one of my fav IPAs hahah.
I hope super nintendo land is there.
What an amazing video!! What month do you think they new potter coaster opens in 2019?
Sometime between May-Aug!
This Video has got me speculating on so many ideas. First thing that popped into my mind was a Luigi’s Mansion dark ride shooter like Men in Black
I could see Universal buying the lockhead martin property in the future for more land. That property is about 200 acres. Also, they should consider using elons musk's the boring company to build a tunnel under universal blvd with electric autonomous passenger pods that zip guests back and forth between parks really fast.
Alicia, with the rumors now that Camp Jurassic is becoming World-themed, doesn't that basically kill Jurassic World going into the new park? I just cannot see them having that in two parks. Even one World-themed attraction, like this boring gyrosphere idea, would mean two parks having World attractions within non-World lands. That just seems weird. Have they made a last-minute change? Or are the rumors for the Camp Jurassic/Camp Cretaceous just confusing a new kiddie area in the new park for a name change?
Would love if they could do a version of Disney’s Alien Encounter. Maybe Predator the ride
Hmmm. I've been over here day dreaming Disney resurrects Alien Encounter with a Xenomorph (which will probably never happen, but maybe in other ways....), since they are about to own Fox. But this idea intrigues me.
For the new lands, they have Kong. But, what about a Godzilla ride based off of the Legendary version?or if the upcoming film is a successful a Kong vs Godzilla ride!
Yup. SOOOOOOOO in for the Kaiju. Bring me all of the large monsters in one world/ride! Cannot wait for the next Godzilla movie and hopefully after that, Kong Vs Godzilla!
How about a Warner brothers world. Ready player one could be in it as a vr or they could take the scene where they got the first key and use that as there big boy coaster because universal tries to put in at least one big boy coaster into there parks. And I feel like it would be world of monsters or this because donkey Kong is still suppose to be somewhat on the low end still for high thrill. And u could use the new track system the one company just released which could be perfect for this ride. Or make a Dracula dark ride wing coaster and it’s about the same. But also for Warner brothers you could do the oceans movies which could be cool for a ride. Also could put Godzilla in since Kong has IOA in it. I was just thinking of ways universal could put a big boy coaster in because they usually have one in every park at least in orlando
Guess we'll find out on the 1st
I *REALLY* hope the top-down soarin' doesn't go. And here's the 3 main reasons.
- I can't imagine these seats accommodating a high rider capacity. Universal lockers are a thing I still despise, so it's either that or the 2-3 hour lines for Flight of Passage. // As opposed to the big theater arrangements that can hold 100 people per viewing (ala Soarin')
- Universal's hit and miss with their screen rides as far as motion-sync jank is concerned. If you're looking down if it goes jank that's gonna get a lot of people sick
- carrying over from the prior comment - people drop stuff. And if they get sick they'll drop their lunch. If the screens directly below you? You'll have a ton of sunglasses and stains on that big white bowl of a screen.
So so so true. A big bowl of puke below the ride vehicles is one of the first thoughts I had when I saw the permit myself lol.
They could gamify it! Puke directly on the bad guys, 100 points!
The only problem I have with this new theme park idea is that it sounds too similar to Islands of Adventure. I’d rather have some thing original
Dracula is part of Nintendo... Nintendo owns smash... Simon Belmont joined smash... his arch nemesis is Dracula! So TECHNICALLY Dracula’s castle could be connected to Nintendo land LOLOLOLOL
18:20 my theory is its near entrance people are going to want to do that because it's one of the first things they see
Excellent point. Probably part of the reason Despicable Me Minion Mayhem always has the longest line in the park!
I want a themed Harry Potter Hotel!
BTW, is there a podcast version of this video?
Of course! You can find links to the podcast in the description, or at the website here: orlandoparkstop.com/news/podcast/parkstop-podcast-episode-3-universal-orlandos-4th-gate/
yeah you are right. Craig from the disunplugged thinks he runs a good show but never has the info that this podcast has.
Don't agree with keeping jurassic park and here is why, Jurassic park is a great movie and river adventure is arguably one of my favorite rides there. But realistically from what both of you have been saying universal is just adding more of the same "lands" to other parks. I like Harry Potter but i dont agree with it being in two seperate parks they should just keep them in a single park
Thats cool. I see them as separate stories in the same worlds. Which is why I have the opinions I do. But it'll be fun to see what happens when it all shakes out, regardless!!
I'm pretty sure DIsney is gonna combat this as there are rumors about a third Gate in California. Not so much fifth gate (technically 7 if you count the 2 water parks) in Orlando.
Just curious, where did you hear this rumor cause California has no land.
@@diegovalenzuela3223 I think the Fresh Baked guy has been exploring various possibilities... buuut he tends to be very skeptical about them, because it always involves Disney buying some expensive chunk of nearby land and navigating the zoning issues with Anaheim's often hostile city government, etc.
What about "LEGO" with the new movies coming out and Warner Bros wanting more presence in the park!!!
natsirt0088 Legoland Florida is getting a new land based on the Lego Movies this year called Lego Movie World.
I’d love Percy Jackson/ mythology land for island of adventure
Disney originally had the rights for doctor who in the parks for a small time, they were going to put it in Tomorrowland if I believe. Also warner brothers is developing a movie based off the popular video game five nights at Freddy’s so that could be a possible dark ride in the monsters section? Just a thought. Thanks for the great videos!
I recall them selling some Doctor Who merch at the Epcot UK pavilion, but I guess that was the closest they ever came.
Please no Five Nights It’s a mobile game it got a movie isn’t that enough Mario worldwide recognition Freddy fazbear doesn’t have that
There already building these coaster model in Aruba
Apart from nintendo land they should make a ride based off the land before time in the 4th park
Disney beat them, it's called "Pandora, Land of Avatar". I kid, I kid. (very similar story though.)
Anyone looking forward to charityland?
Can’t wait! I hope to see everyone this Sunday at 5pm eastern time on Defunctland channel!
This is all pretty close to what I've heard, but then most of it seems kind of obvious also. Nintendo is a slam dunk, as is DreamWorks. I hope they don't over pollute these places, thereby diluting the theming. If hate to see some Chinese stuff and then right next door some Viking stuff. At the very least, each miniland needs to be of a decent size, like the original Lost Continent.
I think Fantastic Beasts is also a sure thing, and unfortunately Jurassic World too. I hope Ian is right and they just do the one Jurassic World ride. It's bad enough that the movies are so awful, but dinosaurs apparently don't lend themselves to decent stories, if theme parks are any indication. It's either "look at them" or "be scared by them". I don't see this gyrosphere nonsense being any different than River Adventure on Dry Land. Yawn.
I am surprised to hear nothing about a Super Silly Fun Land. I had put them right after Nintendo, DreamWorks but before Fantastic Beasts and definitely before JW. It seems like a no-brainer. The attraction is popular and needs another theater. It's also something that would be relatively inexpensive and could incorporate a lot more rides, including an unthemed coaster as well as the important carnival games. I would've bet money on this.
Good to hear about the Classic Monsters. It's the one I haven't heard anything about, though Universal has obviously been trying to make them a thing again. But they are Classic for a reason so who cares how the movies perform? They could do something new with Jaws also. Personally, I'd rather see them in USF for HHN purposes. If they moved Despicable Me and Shrek to other parks, it would open up the entire Hollywood area for some gloomy medieval village theming. But that Bourne thing ruins all that. Hell, they could redo New York instead. The Mummy could become not about the movie, Rip Ride Suckit could become Dracula Hunt (though he deserves better), and Jimmy Fallon could... Stay right where it is because that's the scariest ride ever made! Really, it wouldn't be difficult to put some Monster film in there instead. Or if they wanted to keep his unfunny ass in the parks: Jimmy Fallon Mutely Presents "The Ride of Frankenstein". (And that sentence is funnier than ANYTHING Fallon has ever said.)
do universal Studios Beijing video
Wizarding World Folks. All of it!!!!!
I might do a video on the fourth gate
I just want more rides like the mummy and less less screens. I get screens are the future but I want original ideas
I am not sure that screens ARE the future, maybe integrated often, but I don't think people are all that wowed by them. So, I can't see them always being the "thing" in the attractions. just my two cents.
Screens can help immerse you as a background detail like a sky but the whole thing revolving around it is basically watching movie
It's called 4th park because it's they fourth park they have open and volcano bay is they 3rd
Right, but people don't count this way when they talk about Disney; by that reckoning River Country was Walt Disney World's second gate (or maybe even their third, if you count the original Discovery Island), and they've had as many as seven or eight "gates" around 1998-99, and six now. But nobody ever says that.
And that means that animal kingdom is their 6th gate because of the 2 water parks
I am not worthy of your patience, sensei.
Beth Corrigan 3 Waterparks
*Third gate
TMTN!
You know the movies Alien i don’t know who owns the rights to the films but I wish something happened like a Alien themed roller coaster aimed at thrill seekers. Like for instance it could be a plot in a park where you take like a simulated shuttle to a space station that has recently lost contact and your like a marine to see what has happened.(inside) You arrive and parts of the station are braking apart , no sign of human life. The train slows as it approaches the control room and a heart beat effect happens along with the loud beeping from the alien detector thingy and that’s when everything gets out of hand. Just an idea it doesn’t mean anything 😂👌
Alien is pretty old, there's too much new stuff that seems more relevant, but I like the concept of what you described though.
Disney has Alien! They just bought it with Fox (and before that they'd licensed it for a scene in The Great Movie Ride). What you're imagining is actually pretty close to a "Nostromo" attraction that Disney was thinking about doing back during the Eisner era (would have been a shooting dark ride I think), which eventually mutated into the short-lived ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter (without the Alien license).
I suspect today's Disney wouldn't want to do anything with Alien, though... which means it's a potential bargaining chip. They could throw the theme-park rights in the pot with a bunch of other Fox properties in exchange for the Marvel rights, say.
Matt McIrvin oh cool
Matt McIrvin Yeah really sucks but If they had the rights I feel like they would want to do something with it to bad Disney has it and will never use it again
I just hope they keep it somewhat adult oriented, I feel like Universal is becoming too much like disney. If you look at the rides they had when the park first opened compared to what's planned or exists today it seems like that sense of being more mature is fading. I hope it doesn't turn into a park based off of video games, cartoons, and adolescent themes.
You sound like being like Disney is a bad thing when it's the most attended theme park in the world. Of course everyone will try to pattern it to them. It has to be family oriented. The more you restrict the less guests and less profit.
@@gissneric There's nothing bad about Disney, it's probably the best theme park there is. That said, Universal has it's own characteristics and uniqueness that make it great. I think rides like Jaws, back to the future, terminator, etc are geared to a more mature audience (even consider Halloween horror night).
I'm not saying Universal isn't meant for kids, I think it's geared towards all ages, which is what makes it great and unique.
@@mattg5978 you do know that Jaws, Back to the Future and Terminator doesn't exist anymore and replaced with new rides. But you do have a point.
@@gissneric Yes unfortunately they are gone. And i guess my point is as well. I guess my real point is that anyone who experienced Universal when it opened back in the day is a really lucky person . Obviously you weren't there....
@@gissneric Do you really think that replacing all these cool rides with green screens is a cool thing !!!!!!?? C'mon man
"Star Track"??? TRACK??? Its Trek.. like Shrek.. c'mon
Game of thrones
Tremors
Omg underground theme park?!?!?!?!?!?! Maybe Nintendo on top and the ministry of magic underground....