I've been playing Jiyan for a while now and trust me when i tell u that u need at least 150 ER on him to burst consistently on every rotation. Also his basic and skill are important too so dont neglect them. If you want the most damage make sure they are leveled up as well
Nah , 125+ is quite enough I think if you use swap cancel technique. Try to swap to him every 6s for e. Before mort gets his outtro, swap to jinyan for his e and echo. I have tested for 2/3 rotations you can get his ulti ready after intro. The last one only requires a few hits. So 130 is perfect. Of course with more eg you don’t have to do swap cancel every 6s and can focus on something else
I rerolled for Jiyun , soo I didnt even get mortefi. I built sanhua and they seem to work great together. Not ideal of course because she gives basic attack, but the rotations with her are soo smooth, it still works. I kinda wanted to go back in on banner just to get mortefi, but I figured I would get a copy eventually anyway.
I got Jiyan and his signature in 1 10 pull on each banner, a little while later I was counting weapon banner pity, saw it was 24, got mad, did a single pull to bring it to 25, and got a second copy of his weapon and now it's r2
I replaced my first team of Encore/Sanhua/Verina with Jiyan/Mortefi/Verina and the gameplay just became much easier. Don't get me wrong, Encore is really strong, but she is quite vulnerable during her ult as she gains no immunity to CC or anti-interruption compared to Jiyan's. I can parry and dodge better (I think I just had an easy time doing it compared to range units). Plus, Jiyan runs fast as hell and using the super jump technique on him is insane.
@@12thHarbinger I just got the monkey 4 cost with base crit and then it rolled crit rate/crit dmg/heavy attack/attack%. I needed a new pair of pants after that. Still can get 1 more stat because I fused my old one into it that had nothing good on it and ran out of mats.
Watching this vid makes me feel like super lucky in echo farming, got a Beringal with like 2 crit substats, aero and dmg, then on 2 cost echo got two with aero/dmg, just missing his two atk cost 1 echo and ngl, world bosses ain't lasting 1 min in my jiyan rn🥶
The basic attacks we do after using his Resonance liberation has separate multipliers tied to his Resonance liberation. Which means its damage will increase as you level his Resonance liberation. Outside of his Resonance liberation, we almost never use his basic attacks unless in the outer world.
I was thinking about going for 2 4 cost echos and 3 1 cost, cause like now that I read some stuff I think having 2 3 cost (aero dmg bonus) echos will overcap on aero dmg bonus (IF YOU HAVE VERINA), cause you know... Balancing out stats and all Edit: plus if you have his weapon thats an extra 12% aero (or basically all elements)
i just hope they change jiyan's resonance liberation uneccesary step back, he is a melee character but he step back so far when he uses his ult like hes about to use a rocket launcher, it really waste a chunk of second of his burst mode and his resonance skill as a gap closer is just a waste a lot of times because the animation is not far enough to hit the target and the worst part is after ulti animation you hit the dodge to forward but did backward instead making jiyan more farther to the target ruining everything and this happen alot to me playing on mobile im not sure if thats also the case on pc i havent tried yet
Is resonance Liberation dmg substad useless on him? Bc even if it is considered heavy atk dmg why shouldnt the liberation dmg boost it to? Bc all in all we are in his liberation state. Can someone explain it pls ^^
I managed to get my hands on the normal banner Broadsword, isn't as good i suppose as his signature weapon but its the 2nd best, yeh? I should invest into it , right?
Can someone explain it to me. With sanhua we can use basic but with mortefi we should be using heavy attack, right? But he said to spam basic attack after ult and skill.
I got Jiyan, now idk whether I should try to pull Mortefi or go for the signature weapon banner instead. My team rn is Jiyan, Sanhua (sometimes i switch to Yangyang) and Verina, and the best I have for Jiyan is a R1 Helios Cleaver. Should I try for Mortefi or go for the sig weapon?
@@spandanmaitra6458 i did the same when I woke up this morning and I meant to click on the Yinlin banner but did a single pull on Jiyan's banner by mistake
wait, 7:14 resonance liberation dmg is wasted on him? should we not aim for that in substat rolls? heavy dmg bonus or liberation dmg or both needed? please clarify
Jiyan doesn't deal any liberation damage, all of his attacks in his ultimate are considered as heavy attack damage. So aim for heavy attack damage rolls from substats.
@@12thHarbinger ahhh okay… then stat page wise, we prioritize the liberation damage section though😅 i’m a little confused… genshin habits say heavy attack should come under basic attacks😅😅 sorry, i’m dumb, please bear with me
@@frozenspace8793 we prioritise the liberation because it has a separate multipliers tied to it. You can think of it like Cyno's elemental burst. It has different multipliers tied to it and his attacks are considered as normal attack damage. Similarly, Jiyan has separate multipliers on his liberation and his damage in his liberation state is considered as heavy attack damage. So he benefits from buffs related to heavy attacks like Mortefi's outro.
i kinda dont understand why jiyan should play heavy attack instead basic is it because the intro skill? that pierce aero damage mid air? or because the outro im kinda confuse about this game cause that intro outro thing that make me kinda confuse alot
@@12thHarbinger okay now i understand and for best set maybe all aero damage? because in qinlong mode he make the enemy in the state of mid air (boss not included) or 2 aero and 2 lingering? anyway i watch your video again and again to make me understand more
Yeah 5 piece aero set is the best. But if you don't have good echoes from that set, you can use 5 piece Lingering tunes set. But if you don't have good echoes from this set as well, you can use 2 piece aero and 2 piece Lingering tunes set. These sets are good because :- Aero set - Jiyan's damage is aero and this set buffs aero damage. Lingering tunes - Jiyan's damage scales on attack and this set buffs attack.
No, intro skill is casted when you switch into a character while your previous character's concerto energy bar is filled. Concerto Energy bar is the circular bar situated in the left of your HP bar. So for example, if you fill Verina's concerto energy bar and switch into Jiyan, Jiyan will do his intro skill. (You will get an audio cue when the concerto bar is filled and the character portraits on the right side of the screen will have a white ring glowing around them)
Is this somehow calculated the between Areo+Areo / ATK+ATK only 3% difference?. If so the damn me i could have a decant echos long time ago , i dont care about 3%. Im too casual for that.
@@12thHarbinger My bad i meant Areo (set)+ Attack (main stat), it has 3-4% correct?, If so i need to watch guides more often, coz i had a lot of those echos. Anyway thank you very much for quick answer.
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My dumbass just realized spam BA on his liberation and holding the mouse button actually the same thing 😂😂😂
...ok, this is actually useful. lol
Thanks.
Got his sig weapon today and then tried pulling him because of it. Got both in 20 pulls 😊 one of the luckiest day
Thanks a lot buddy just got Jiyan and didn't knew what to do ...
I really enjoy his playstyle especially when you have his s1 which makes hin use his skill twice!
This is a good video… really appreciate the technical details. Jiyan is the most fun I’ve had on a gacha character in some time
your videos are so concise and well put. I was checking a video of yours from long back, insane progress bro.
this rlly helped, straight to the point and detailed explanation!!
I've been playing Jiyan for a while now and trust me when i tell u that u need at least 150 ER on him to burst consistently on every rotation. Also his basic and skill are important too so dont neglect them. If you want the most damage make sure they are leveled up as well
Nah , 125+ is quite enough I think if you use swap cancel technique. Try to swap to him every 6s for e. Before mort gets his outtro, swap to jinyan for his e and echo. I have tested for 2/3 rotations you can get his ulti ready after intro. The last one only requires a few hits. So 130 is perfect. Of course with more eg you don’t have to do swap cancel every 6s and can focus on something else
Dude, your video is simple & thorough, love it ❤🍻🔥
Excellent video - even more pleased I’m being taught by an almost Hank Hill 🤣
I hate you, I can't un hear it now
I rerolled for Jiyun , soo I didnt even get mortefi. I built sanhua and they seem to work great together. Not ideal of course because she gives basic attack, but the rotations with her are soo smooth, it still works. I kinda wanted to go back in on banner just to get mortefi, but I figured I would get a copy eventually anyway.
I got Jiyan and his signature in 1 10 pull on each banner, a little while later I was counting weapon banner pity, saw it was 24, got mad, did a single pull to bring it to 25, and got a second copy of his weapon and now it's r2
I got him, built him, benched him for new toys( Jinshi) then got tired of her and brought him back out. He is so fun
I got jiyan on my first 12 pulls and then got another Jiyan on the very next 10 pull. His C1 is so goood
I replaced my first team of Encore/Sanhua/Verina with Jiyan/Mortefi/Verina and the gameplay just became much easier. Don't get me wrong, Encore is really strong, but she is quite vulnerable during her ult as she gains no immunity to CC or anti-interruption compared to Jiyan's. I can parry and dodge better (I think I just had an easy time doing it compared to range units). Plus, Jiyan runs fast as hell and using the super jump technique on him is insane.
6:35 bro casually flexing his 1cost echo XD
My best echo so far XD
@@12thHarbinger I just got the monkey 4 cost with base crit and then it rolled crit rate/crit dmg/heavy attack/attack%. I needed a new pair of pants after that. Still can get 1 more stat because I fused my old one into it that had nothing good on it and ran out of mats.
I'm so upset I missed out on him😢. I would honestly trade Jinshi for Jiyan. He's just so damn cool. Fingers crossed, they rerun him soon.
He's about to get a rerun after this, with Youhu as the 4 star
@@ForMyself-h3f I know. I'm so HYPED!😁
S1 is actually pretty good as it means you need less ER and its great for openworld too
This game is 70% of skill and 30% of luck(for pulling their waifu/husbando).
very simple guide tnx!
Watching this vid makes me feel like super lucky in echo farming, got a Beringal with like 2 crit substats, aero and dmg, then on 2 cost echo got two with aero/dmg, just missing his two atk cost 1 echo and ngl, world bosses ain't lasting 1 min in my jiyan rn🥶
Why not level up his basic attack? Since if you level up basic attack it also increases the heavy attack damage so you get more ULT damage.
The basic attacks we do after using his Resonance liberation has separate multipliers tied to his Resonance liberation. Which means its damage will increase as you level his Resonance liberation. Outside of his Resonance liberation, we almost never use his basic attacks unless in the outer world.
Nice job!
Thanks for the tips
I was thinking about going for 2 4 cost echos and 3 1 cost, cause like now that I read some stuff I think having 2 3 cost (aero dmg bonus) echos will overcap on aero dmg bonus (IF YOU HAVE VERINA), cause you know... Balancing out stats and all
Edit: plus if you have his weapon thats an extra 12% aero (or basically all elements)
Thanks man.
hope you make calcharo one next!
Working on it!
My substats are always so depressing 💀always getting hp and fking up my godroll
Is mortefi charecter energy regen helps ult faster for jiyan?
Anyone else having a hard time getting monkey to drop a crit main stat?
i just hope they change jiyan's resonance liberation uneccesary step back, he is a melee character but he step back so far when he uses his ult like hes about to use a rocket launcher, it really waste a chunk of second of his burst mode and his resonance skill as a gap closer is just a waste a lot of times because the animation is not far enough to hit the target and the worst part is after ulti animation you hit the dodge to forward but did backward instead making jiyan more farther to the target ruining everything and this happen alot to me playing on mobile im not sure if thats also the case on pc i havent tried yet
Is resonance Liberation dmg substad useless on him? Bc even if it is considered heavy atk dmg why shouldnt the liberation dmg boost it to? Bc all in all we are in his liberation state. Can someone explain it pls ^^
im a f2p im accidentaly c3 him on 20 pull , ijust want moftifi copy
Thxsm
i got jiyan 2x in one ten pull and his weapon in one ten pull too lol is this normal for everyone? or am i just too lucky?
Weird flex.
I cant see jiyan outfit even i have pulled how can i see my jiyan is lvl 40?
i got jiyan at 40 pity and his weapon also 30 pity🙂
I managed to get my hands on the normal banner Broadsword, isn't as good i suppose as his signature weapon but its the 2nd best, yeh? I should invest into it , right?
Can someone explain it to me. With sanhua we can use basic but with mortefi we should be using heavy attack, right? But he said to spam basic attack after ult and skill.
Jiyan's basic attacks after ult are considered as heavy attacks, that's why Mortefi is his best partner.
so if 2 echo aero bonus is better than one 2 atk stat ? cuz i build 2 aero n i dont feel enough
how do you made Echo show their skill detail
Make Calcharo next one pls!!
Will be uploaded soon!
I got Jiyan, now idk whether I should try to pull Mortefi or go for the signature weapon banner instead. My team rn is Jiyan, Sanhua (sometimes i switch to Yangyang) and Verina, and the best I have for Jiyan is a R1 Helios Cleaver. Should I try for Mortefi or go for the sig weapon?
Sig weap ofc
you're missing lots of potential optimazation
Does the Lingering Tunes (5pcs set) increase Jiyan's Outro skill damage?
I accidentally got jiyan
Please tell me how
@@spandanmaitra6458 i did the same when I woke up this morning and I meant to click on the Yinlin banner but did a single pull on Jiyan's banner by mistake
*uses pulls for jiyan banner
*gets jiyan
*shocked
@@ragno-monoover4710😂😂😂
I accidentally got jiyan, his weapon, as well as yinlin, (all early pity, all guaranteed)
wait, 7:14 resonance liberation dmg is wasted on him? should we not aim for that in substat rolls? heavy dmg bonus or liberation dmg or both needed? please clarify
Jiyan doesn't deal any liberation damage, all of his attacks in his ultimate are considered as heavy attack damage. So aim for heavy attack damage rolls from substats.
@@12thHarbinger ahhh okay… then stat page wise, we prioritize the liberation damage section though😅 i’m a little confused… genshin habits say heavy attack should come under basic attacks😅😅
sorry, i’m dumb, please bear with me
@@frozenspace8793 we prioritise the liberation because it has a separate multipliers tied to it. You can think of it like Cyno's elemental burst. It has different multipliers tied to it and his attacks are considered as normal attack damage.
Similarly, Jiyan has separate multipliers on his liberation and his
damage in his liberation state is considered as heavy attack damage. So he benefits from buffs related to heavy attacks like Mortefi's outro.
@@12thHarbinger thank you so much man, love the way you elaborated everything in detail with so much patience ❤️❤️
😭🤧😊😊
i use 3 star broadblade guardian broadblade
If i put yang2 with jiyan, i dont need ER% on my echoes?
I'm using jiyan , jianxin and rover ..is it good?
i kinda dont understand why jiyan should play heavy attack instead basic
is it because the intro skill? that pierce aero damage mid air? or because the outro
im kinda confuse about this game cause that intro outro thing that make me kinda confuse alot
His attacks in his resonance liberation state are considered as heavy attacks
@@12thHarbinger okay now i understand and for best set maybe all aero damage?
because in qinlong mode he make the enemy in the state of mid air (boss not included) or 2 aero and 2 lingering?
anyway i watch your video again and again to make me understand more
Yeah 5 piece aero set is the best. But if you don't have good echoes from that set, you can use 5 piece Lingering tunes set. But if you don't have good echoes from this set as well, you can use 2 piece aero and 2 piece Lingering tunes set.
These sets are good because :-
Aero set - Jiyan's damage is aero and this set buffs aero damage.
Lingering tunes - Jiyan's damage scales on attack and this set buffs attack.
@@12thHarbinger so the intro skill is basically automatic when the enemy in mid air?
No, intro skill is casted when you switch into a character while your previous character's concerto energy bar is filled. Concerto Energy bar is the circular bar situated in the left of your HP bar. So for example, if you fill Verina's concerto energy bar and switch into Jiyan, Jiyan will do his intro skill. (You will get an audio cue when the concerto bar is filled and the character portraits on the right side of the screen will have a white ring glowing around them)
Doesn't resonance liberation damage sub stat increase the Lance of Qingloong damage?? if you check his skills it shows it there
The Lance of Qingloong damage is considered as heavy attack damage
yinlin next pls
will jiyan,mortefi and baizhi works?
Yes
Replace Baizhi with Verina if you have her
Is this somehow calculated the between Areo+Areo / ATK+ATK only 3% difference?. If so the damn me i could have a decant echos long time ago , i dont care about 3%. Im too casual for that.
Aero + Aero / Aero + Attack have around 3-4% difference. Attack + Attack is much worse but viable if you have no other option
@@12thHarbinger My bad i meant Areo (set)+ Attack (main stat), it has 3-4% correct?, If so i need to watch guides more often, coz i had a lot of those echos. Anyway thank you very much for quick answer.
8:48 lmao
I use discord as ma weapon, it has ER as sec stat so I think it's nice?
I got Jiyan 3 pity
Is the s6 rotation the same?
Nice Text-To-Speech videos.
Luckly i got his weap
Is Crit Rate = 52.5% good for Jiyan?
70% is good
Outro is pronounced ow-tro, not out-row. Good video otherwise. Going to watch the Mortefi video
It’s like intro, it isn’t int-row, it’s in-tro
I think it's AI voice. There's no emphasis on anything or change in tone.
Bru we are same build team hahaha
out-ro
in bed 💀
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