They used both. The B17s did high altitude level bombing. The B26s were rigged with torpedoes and did low level torpedo runs. Also there were only 9 B17s and 4 B26s, so the numbers shown in the movie were way more than in reality.
0:31 the marine pilot who they named Henderson field after. think safe to say that if Japanese made their carriers' towers the same size as the Americans, that kamikaze bomber wouldn't have missed the carrier
This is the 1940s military camoflauge was still developing in this era the allied naval officers wore All white with navy blue pea coats so they aren't any better in fact all Navies wore white uniforms in ww2 dunno why but they did
Nagumo made the right decisions with the information available to him at the time of the respective decision. Including the decision to rearm the planes. We have the luxury of hindsight and knowing the outcome and knowing what the US did, he did not, he had the fog of war. I HIGHLY urge you to go to the UA-cam channel "Montemayor" and watch his videos called "Midway from the japanese perspective". (Unfortunately YT doesn't like links in its comments, so you will have to search it yourself. It is worth it). He does not show what the US was doing at the time, he only shows what the japanese knew, what they had to plan for, and then he presents the viewer with all the options Admiral Nagumo had. And you will see that with the available information Nagumo had, he made the right call at the time.
He made the decision to rearm the planes to attack Midway in the first place as they were being held in reserve armed to attack carriers the moment they spotted the US fleet. This was per Yamamoto's orders and plan for the battle. The entire point of attacking Midway was to finish off the US carriers. Meaning the Japanese were planning on spotting the US surface fleet eventually. Thus the reaction to spotting the US fleet is pure idiotic fantasy in terms of them being completely surprised. Speaking realistically the Admiral doomed more than that carrier when he decided to freelance and break from Yamamoto's orders and rearm his reserves to attack Midway again. Had he not done that he would have gotten his strike force off after getting the message of the American fleet being spotted before the American Navy bombers reached his carrier. It wouldn't have prevented the loss of his carrier but that strike force would have been overwhelming to deal with for what defenses the US carriers had held back. In other words there is a real possibility that the US could have lost all 3 carriers at Midway. Sure, they would have still taken out 3 of the 4 Japanese carriers but the 4th Japanese carrier was lost because the US still had 2 untouched carriers that launched a 2nd attack. Untouched because one admiral decided to deviate from Yamamoto's plan.
@@rainsilent Hey, When i mean rearm i mean Nagumo making decision to rearm was rearm his reserve planes to commence 2nd wave on Midway. Then realise he made big oppsie to reverse the decision and get planes hastily armed back to attack the US carriers. His surprise reaction for spotting the US carrier was not that Carrier was there but He was surprise the Carrier arrive earlier than expected. As earlier in movie Nagumo conducted wargames with younger officer and the strategy was build around that US Carrier will only appear few days later.
@@redeye117 I'm aware of the first point. The thing is that the first decision is what really mattered. The second decision didn't matter as his group, at best, would have been in the midst of launching the second Midway island attack had he not ordered the second switch. At worst they would have still been preparing. Regardless there would have been aircraft with bombs on the carrier. The second decision was a moot point beyond having more ordnance laying around in the hangars when they got hit. The carrier was dead anyways. How dead is where the debate lies. As for the second point? Yes and no. They weren't fully anticipating that they would be there but Yamamoto ordered for some carriers to have a group prepared to attack carriers at any moment, including on day 1. So while they hadn't fully expected the USN carriers to not be there day 1 they had plans in place should they be there. Yamamoto had a plan in place and this Admiral broke from the plan on his own accord. "As earlier in the movie..." This is why I hate movies that don't stick to historical accuracy. They throw some of history away to tell their own version of the story that isn't right. This leads to people like you defending the errors of the film while not fully knowing what you are talking about because you are assuming that the story that the movie is telling is the right one. Yes, they practiced this but what this movie did is paint the picture that the Japanese were caught completely off guard when in reality that wasn't the case at all. Yamamoto had a plan in place for the USN carriers to arrive at any moment, including on day 1, but this fact is completely scrubbed from the film. In reality what happened is that the Japanese were caught with an Admiral freewheeling and they got burned because of it. This is why the Admiral went down with the carrier. From a Japanese perspective his actions disgraced himself and brought ruin to the IJN even though his experience and skill were simultaneously invaluable. For the record the Admiral wasn't being a maverick per se. The Japanese tactical strategy for the entire war was to be very aggressive all the time. Yamamoto's strategy of keeping a few attack groups in reserve dedicated to attacking the USN carriers once they were spotted, even though they weren't fully expected to be there on day 1, was seen as conservative. However Yamamoto was partially trained by the USN. Training that no other IJN officer got. While he didn't know that the carriers would be there he was trained to prepare for it because he knew that the time he had from spotting the USN carriers arrival to them launching an attack on him was going to be very small. He had insight into how the Americans thought and he knew he had to get the first punch in. This Admiral freewheeling took that punch away.
Didn’t they use b 17 bombers on the island of midway and not b 26s?
Yep B17s did some ineffective level bombing
While B26s did torpedo runs
They used both. The B17s did high altitude level bombing. The B26s were rigged with torpedoes and did low level torpedo runs. Also there were only 9 B17s and 4 B26s, so the numbers shown in the movie were way more than in reality.
me thinking "how the turn tables"
as the plane's about to hit the ship lmao
The B-26s were modified to drop torpedoes, and only four B26s were used in the attack--a low level, on-the-deck attack.
I did read that one of the B-26s tried to crash into the Akagi, so that was right.
@@ikr9358 Actually - that one didn't crash. It flew down the length of the ship. If it had had bombs - it would have ripped it open - but it didn't.
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Why is this re-upload again? Aint we have a lot of scenes
Enemy spotted at 9'O clock. Bit in the scene planes appear on right side. Am i looking right?
Often vids are mirrored to prevent copyright strikes
0:31 the marine pilot who they named Henderson field after.
think safe to say that if Japanese made their carriers' towers the same size as the Americans, that kamikaze bomber wouldn't have missed the carrier
Mayor Lofton Henderson
One of the problems with this movie - is that they ran out of money for the CGI so they don't have all the aircraft.
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B26 bombers were not at Midway.
They were at midway.
Just not used the way they were here.
They were at midway, read the story of James P. Muri.
All I gotta say.
Well, despite the internet, you’re absolutely wrong.
Hmmm - made in 2019? I'd expect it to look more realistic. Looks more like it was made before 2000.
Nagumo was a ridiculous mouse.
Way underrated movie
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It's blackly hilarious how the Japanese officers wear dress uniform and WHITE GLOVES. How useless is that??? LOL.
This is the 1940s military camoflauge was still developing in this era the allied naval officers wore All white with navy blue pea coats so they aren't any better in fact all Navies wore white uniforms in ww2 dunno why but they did
@@NuclearBomb-ow4zf Thanx for that detailed reply.
@@starpawsy ur welcome
The US actors were shit in this
3:17 That face when he realize he Fucked up big time .He made wrong decision to rearm the planes.
Nagumo made the right decisions with the information available to him at the time of the respective decision. Including the decision to rearm the planes.
We have the luxury of hindsight and knowing the outcome and knowing what the US did, he did not, he had the fog of war. I HIGHLY urge you to go to the UA-cam channel "Montemayor" and watch his videos called "Midway from the japanese perspective". (Unfortunately YT doesn't like links in its comments, so you will have to search it yourself. It is worth it). He does not show what the US was doing at the time, he only shows what the japanese knew, what they had to plan for, and then he presents the viewer with all the options Admiral Nagumo had. And you will see that with the available information Nagumo had, he made the right call at the time.
He made the decision to rearm the planes to attack Midway in the first place as they were being held in reserve armed to attack carriers the moment they spotted the US fleet. This was per Yamamoto's orders and plan for the battle. The entire point of attacking Midway was to finish off the US carriers. Meaning the Japanese were planning on spotting the US surface fleet eventually. Thus the reaction to spotting the US fleet is pure idiotic fantasy in terms of them being completely surprised.
Speaking realistically the Admiral doomed more than that carrier when he decided to freelance and break from Yamamoto's orders and rearm his reserves to attack Midway again. Had he not done that he would have gotten his strike force off after getting the message of the American fleet being spotted before the American Navy bombers reached his carrier. It wouldn't have prevented the loss of his carrier but that strike force would have been overwhelming to deal with for what defenses the US carriers had held back. In other words there is a real possibility that the US could have lost all 3 carriers at Midway. Sure, they would have still taken out 3 of the 4 Japanese carriers but the 4th Japanese carrier was lost because the US still had 2 untouched carriers that launched a 2nd attack. Untouched because one admiral decided to deviate from Yamamoto's plan.
@@rainsilent Hey, When i mean rearm i mean Nagumo making decision to rearm was rearm his reserve planes to commence 2nd wave on Midway. Then realise he made big oppsie to reverse the decision and get planes hastily armed back to attack the US carriers.
His surprise reaction for spotting the US carrier was not that Carrier was there but He was surprise the Carrier arrive earlier than expected.
As earlier in movie Nagumo conducted wargames with younger officer and the strategy was build around that US Carrier will only appear few days later.
@@redeye117 I'm aware of the first point. The thing is that the first decision is what really mattered. The second decision didn't matter as his group, at best, would have been in the midst of launching the second Midway island attack had he not ordered the second switch. At worst they would have still been preparing. Regardless there would have been aircraft with bombs on the carrier. The second decision was a moot point beyond having more ordnance laying around in the hangars when they got hit. The carrier was dead anyways. How dead is where the debate lies.
As for the second point? Yes and no. They weren't fully anticipating that they would be there but Yamamoto ordered for some carriers to have a group prepared to attack carriers at any moment, including on day 1. So while they hadn't fully expected the USN carriers to not be there day 1 they had plans in place should they be there. Yamamoto had a plan in place and this Admiral broke from the plan on his own accord.
"As earlier in the movie..." This is why I hate movies that don't stick to historical accuracy. They throw some of history away to tell their own version of the story that isn't right. This leads to people like you defending the errors of the film while not fully knowing what you are talking about because you are assuming that the story that the movie is telling is the right one.
Yes, they practiced this but what this movie did is paint the picture that the Japanese were caught completely off guard when in reality that wasn't the case at all. Yamamoto had a plan in place for the USN carriers to arrive at any moment, including on day 1, but this fact is completely scrubbed from the film. In reality what happened is that the Japanese were caught with an Admiral freewheeling and they got burned because of it. This is why the Admiral went down with the carrier. From a Japanese perspective his actions disgraced himself and brought ruin to the IJN even though his experience and skill were simultaneously invaluable.
For the record the Admiral wasn't being a maverick per se. The Japanese tactical strategy for the entire war was to be very aggressive all the time. Yamamoto's strategy of keeping a few attack groups in reserve dedicated to attacking the USN carriers once they were spotted, even though they weren't fully expected to be there on day 1, was seen as conservative. However Yamamoto was partially trained by the USN. Training that no other IJN officer got. While he didn't know that the carriers would be there he was trained to prepare for it because he knew that the time he had from spotting the USN carriers arrival to them launching an attack on him was going to be very small. He had insight into how the Americans thought and he knew he had to get the first punch in. This Admiral freewheeling took that punch away.
@@rainsilent Intresting.. So Nagumo just pretty much screwed up. So did he go freewheeling during pearl habor to call off the 3rd wave?
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