In The Hoop Bib Tutorial

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  • @theresaleigh2193
    @theresaleigh2193 4 роки тому +4

    I don’t think I’ve found a better embroidery tutorial. I was enthralled. Very cute! Thank you for sharing!!!

  • @Mony2489
    @Mony2489 4 роки тому +3

    You are awesome and so very sweet to share your knowledge with others!

  • @dianemcmillan2627
    @dianemcmillan2627 6 років тому +3

    I have been sewing bibs by machine for a long time. I love your tutorials.

  • @lynnedenny5690
    @lynnedenny5690 2 роки тому +1

    Aww that was so cute. Very adorable! Thank you, Thank you for sharing.

  • @shannonmargaretbrott7524
    @shannonmargaretbrott7524 8 років тому +2

    My Daughter have enjoyed watching your tutorials.... She is nervous to learn embroidery .... I think watching you made her eager to learn... Thanks Mrs. Kandia.... :) Wonderful job on these bibs.....

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  8 років тому

      Thank you, for watching! Tell your daughter take the leap! AND send me pictures!

  • @acloserwalkchristiantalksh264
    @acloserwalkchristiantalksh264 7 років тому +3

    Thank you so much for sharing your gift with the rest of us. I truly appreciate you. God bless on ALL your endeavors!!!

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Aww! Thank you, for watching my video and kind comment!

  • @quineshabrown6649
    @quineshabrown6649 7 років тому +1

    I really appreciate you taking your time in teaching us some amazing tricks of the trade. I am aspiring to start a small business embroidering and vinyl company. The information can be so overwhelming! Thanks for the tutorial!

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Hi Quinesha! Thanks for watching! Take it one day at a time and learn what ever you can!

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Thanks for watching and leaving feedback!

  • @p1fisher
    @p1fisher 3 роки тому

    Those are the cutest bibs Ive ever seen. I love them all. Do you. think I could make them on my Janome 9850? I don't have a larger embroidery machine.

  • @kristyhuber7835
    @kristyhuber7835 5 років тому +3

    Great video! Is there a specific type of batting you use that stays nice after washing? Thank you.

  • @kelseyneighbors1586
    @kelseyneighbors1586 7 років тому +1

    I just got my 16 needle machine and you have inspired me to start with in the hoop projects!! YAY!! Thanks what a great video!

  • @Kimspinkbox
    @Kimspinkbox 7 років тому +4

    Thank you for the inspiration... I have been dying to try this out. Great job on the tutorial and I guess I will just spend the rest of the day looking at ALL your tutorials now that I'm addicted lol. We all appreciate you!

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Kim Santoscoy and there are more videos to come! thanks for watching my video! i appreciate your support!

    • @daxtonjabari3088
      @daxtonjabari3088 3 роки тому

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      I stupidly forgot my password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me

    • @huxleylian8853
      @huxleylian8853 3 роки тому

      @Daxton Jabari instablaster =)

  • @lindart55
    @lindart55 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for a great tutorial! I love how you speak so clearly..I am hearing impaired. God bless you!

  • @janetrankin2939
    @janetrankin2939 6 років тому +3

    Loved this video!
    Where do you get your tags you add to your finish items?

  • @aurorabarrera8913
    @aurorabarrera8913 4 роки тому

    Beautiful designs.

  • @MyPsychonurse
    @MyPsychonurse 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this informative video. I learned sew much just from this one. Anxious to watch you teach me more.

  • @carolgoering6585
    @carolgoering6585 7 років тому

    Everything you make is really cute. I bought the bib design and made a bib. Next time, I'll use vilene for my stabilizer. I spent way too much time picking out the paper from the quilting.

  • @carmencouvertier9134
    @carmencouvertier9134 7 років тому +1

    Thank you for the tutorial! Very well explained everything. What bib size I can make in a 7x12 hoop?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      You can make an ITH bib using this 7x12 hoop ... All you have to do is upload the bib to your machine and increase or decrease the size according to which ever you prefer..

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Thanks for watching!

    • @rhondacw777
      @rhondacw777 7 років тому

      so I can make this ITH bib in a smaller size?

  • @jamienova3407
    @jamienova3407 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome! Great tutorial

  • @cindynewcomb7139
    @cindynewcomb7139 3 роки тому

    So cute!

  • @jenniferwright4368
    @jenniferwright4368 6 років тому

    Love your videos what machine are you using

  • @nelliesmith1490
    @nelliesmith1490 4 роки тому

    Hi Kandia love ur videos!!! Can you please tell me what type of stabilizer you use was it cut away or tear away. Will be trying this for the first time. Sorry if u mention this and missed it.

  • @maitecastro-chaca6078
    @maitecastro-chaca6078 6 років тому +4

    You can inspire anyone. I’m pretty new to Embroidery, but how can I do this with my Brother PE 770 which goes up to a 5x7 hoop

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  6 років тому +2

      Maite Castro-Chaca Thanks for watching my video! There are 5x7 in the hoop bib designs... search for them on Etsy.

  • @sandrasterling6417
    @sandrasterling6417 7 років тому

    Kandia, I have watched this video numerous times. It is wonderful. When I went to Jolson's Designs for the Hop Scotch Applique Font, The stitching around the letters do not look like yours on the pink G. Did you something additional around it? Love, Love, Love your videos. Thank you so much!

  • @kellywhatley5618
    @kellywhatley5618 9 місяців тому

    Hi, I am new to the game and just found your channel I clicked on the link for the bib and keep getting an error. has it changed?

  • @DeeFromTheD
    @DeeFromTheD 6 років тому

    Hey great video what type of embroidery machine do you have

  • @DIMAZBRAND
    @DIMAZBRAND 6 років тому +1

    What spray is that?

  • @bethfraser521
    @bethfraser521 7 років тому +1

    Kandia thank you for the video. The Hopscotch applique. the embroidery edge of the letter is different than the one Jolson Designs has. what stitch did you use on the letter G on your bib.

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Hi.. Thank you for watching my video! This is called the Hop Scotch Jumbo Applique Font by Jolson's designs... here's the link: www.jolsonsdesigns.com/products/115-hop-scotch-jumbo-applique-caps.html

  • @sweetlikehoney4136
    @sweetlikehoney4136 3 роки тому

    Where did you get the design & your hoop

  • @jeannebrinkman8889
    @jeannebrinkman8889 7 років тому

    Great tutorial!!! Very cute bibs💖

  • @trelldodson3738
    @trelldodson3738 7 років тому

    Hi Kandia,
    I have the Brother PR655 and as I was watching I was trying to see where you went to add the name. Did you have to edit it again?

  • @aliciagillaspie3332
    @aliciagillaspie3332 5 років тому

    Kandia, I have watched this video tutorial many times because I want to make this bib for friends with new babies. However, I need a little more info on what you do when you stop the machine after step three to do the personalizing. Can you explain how or what you do on the machine to get the names added before putting the back piece on the bib? Thanks so much!

  • @cherylbearden261
    @cherylbearden261 2 роки тому

    Where can you find this bib pattern, please

  • @tracyrusso3176
    @tracyrusso3176 6 років тому

    I know that some in the hoop key fob tags can be done that way by splitting the pattern, I just wondered if the bib could work the same way

  • @cherylbearden261
    @cherylbearden261 2 роки тому

    Where did you get the pattern?? I can’t find the pattern for ruffle bib

  • @DebbieFortenberry218
    @DebbieFortenberry218 5 років тому +1

    where can I get the applique font for the G? I love the stitching around the letter!

  • @joyvenita
    @joyvenita 8 років тому +1

    HI this is a great tutorial of a bib. Can you tell me where you get your labels from. Thank you

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  8 років тому +1

      Hello! Thank you, for watching! Actually I did a video presentation on the labels. Here's the link! Using this link will get you the promotion for my viewers... Only, that I will tell you, the company has slightly changed them for my promotion - It is Buy 100, Get 100 Free! Thanks - This link is for a limited time as well.. It has been updated but it will expire if you wait too long.. Good Luck! You're going to love these labels.. ua-cam.com/video/BLnio_kWRv4/v-deo.html

  • @Shellyslittlekitchen
    @Shellyslittlekitchen 4 роки тому

    What stabilizer do you use and do you take it out at all or leave it?

  • @HeavenLeeMadeOnEtsy
    @HeavenLeeMadeOnEtsy 6 років тому

    Kandia, what is that pretty font you are using, that pretty lt. blue font on the pink quilted bib? I did look at Jolson's but it's showing an applique font not your pretty one

  • @cindyownby7267
    @cindyownby7267 7 років тому

    Love your videos, what kind of fabrics do you use in making the bibs?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Thank you, for watching my video! 99% of the time I use cotton fabric unless the customer wants something else..

  • @lindastarnes2
    @lindastarnes2 7 років тому +1

    Great Tutorial! Love the bibs!

  • @K3M13
    @K3M13 7 років тому

    Great video but to avoid the wrinkles before ironing if you trim it with pinking shears that normally takes care of it.

  • @beebeej1
    @beebeej1 7 років тому

    can i use my brother PE-770 to do this ? amazing!

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Beverlee Jones there are embroidery designs that allows a bib to be made in the hoop using 2 hoopings..

  • @dmacdo2
    @dmacdo2 7 років тому

    Very nice vid! Very descriptive. I love digistitches designs. They stitch out wonderfully! Off subject...where did you get your measuring tape bracelets? I love them!

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Deb Macdonald thanks for watching my video! the bracelets were a gift! i wish i knew where they came from..i would buy another set!

  • @michellegeorge6829
    @michellegeorge6829 6 років тому

    Oh My Goodness,
    This video is amazing. I'm so loving your work!💞💞💞
    Thank You so much.

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  6 років тому

      Aww! Thank you, so much for watching! I truly appreciate your time and feedback!

  • @tracyrusso3176
    @tracyrusso3176 6 років тому

    Can this bib be made with the brother se400 (which uses a 4x4 hoop) but using a 5x7 hoop and using the program sew what to help digitize the pattern ?

  • @elsieblakley2381
    @elsieblakley2381 5 років тому

    Where can I buy the bib design.? I have a embroidery machine and want to buy this design and any other baby things. Love working with my machine in the hoop. Thank you

  • @apaniiwachante
    @apaniiwachante 7 років тому

    thank you for the video. I have my own business doing many different things and I just added embroidery to the list. I have a brother PE 770 to start out, is there a certain software I need to do things like this and also WHERE DID YOU GET YOU TAGS???

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому +1

      Chantel Estrada You should join my group Embroidery Boss on Facebook...

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Thank you, for watching my video! I have 3 videos regarding the labels... but this link shows you where to buy the labels and how to order them! ua-cam.com/video/7Oq3e3zyqzI/v-deo.html

  • @tracytorchon7762
    @tracytorchon7762 7 років тому

    Question: after you stopped the machine, what did you do to add the name? Or did you have that part ready to stitch before adding the backing?

  • @MerryJaneInspired
    @MerryJaneInspired 6 років тому

    Hello! What do you use to make your bibs thick?:) Thank You

  • @kmlynn19
    @kmlynn19 7 років тому

    hi I love this bib in the hoop but I have the brother se400 which only does 4x4 hoop . I have purchased a large multihoop but ive never used it and don't really know how it works can I make this bib somehow?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Hi.. Thank you, for watching my video! What kind of multineedle machine do you have? And no, this cannot be made with a 4x4 hoop.

  • @osewhoopy9253
    @osewhoopy9253 5 років тому

    So you must have had to get out of this design to do the personalization? Would you have been able to do this if you scanned or used the positioning sticker? I'm assuming you did not? TYFS!

  • @kimberlypate3428
    @kimberlypate3428 7 років тому

    Do you mind me asking what kind of embroidery machine you have?

  • @Miss-Laine
    @Miss-Laine 5 років тому

    Can this be done on brother xb8500d?

  • @patriciamccollum8398
    @patriciamccollum8398 7 років тому +1

    Hi Kandia! Thank you so much for your videos! I just purchased this bib download from DigiStitches. What font did you use for the name? I've sewn all my life, but am new to embroidery. My machine and I argue a lot! Thanks again!! Patricia

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      The font is Lucy Font by Planet Applique. Thanks for watching!

  • @quarimackey4811
    @quarimackey4811 7 років тому

    what is the name of the hooping machine you are using please

  • @shawneefischer7288
    @shawneefischer7288 4 роки тому

    did you resize the file?

  • @MsDolphins87
    @MsDolphins87 5 років тому

    Where did you buy the font and which font is it?

  • @alecialovely
    @alecialovely 5 років тому +1

    What model embroidery machine is this?

  • @614barbara
    @614barbara 5 років тому

    Where do you buy your labels?

  • @ApexEmbroidery
    @ApexEmbroidery 4 роки тому

    Awesome

  • @carolina.macmillan3402
    @carolina.macmillan3402 8 років тому

    Great video Kandia! Can you tell me where I can find the links for the bibs and fonts?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  8 років тому +1

      Sorry, I thought I put the link in the description... Here it is...
      www.digistitches.com/quilted-baby-bibs-for-large-hoops.html

  • @CandyApple839
    @CandyApple839 7 років тому +1

    Hi, I love this bib. You list a ton of places to get these downloads etc. Do you have an code to use so they know it's you that's referring us? Let me know because I want to get the bib and you should get credit. Best to you. Thanks so much for the tutorials.

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому +2

      CandyApple839 Thanks for watching my videos! Unfortunately, i do not have a referral code. I've asked Digistitches.com if she has an affiliate program and she does not... but I've learned... the new companies that i promote are the ones with referral programs .. it is nice to get credit for referring customers to a business! thanks again, for watching and giving feedback!!

  • @MsDiamond611
    @MsDiamond611 7 років тому

    Great tutorial - very interested in your personalized fabric tags you added at the end of the process, where to purchase?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Thanks for watching my video! I have a tutorial on how to place an order and an video on how they arrive... Both videos have links to the page to order tags.. Clicking either link will transfer to the page offer of BUY 100 , GET 100 FREE..

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Go DIRECTLY TO WEBSITE! Click Below
      ikaprint.com/product/buy-1-get-1-for-free-1-14-white-satin-labels/?wpam_id=33
      WATCH UA-cam Tutorial on How To Order Labels With This Offer!
      ua-cam.com/video/7Oq3e3zyqzI/v-deo.html

  • @karenwalker5412
    @karenwalker5412 5 років тому

    Can this be done on 5 by 7 hoop?

  • @beverlymeans2380
    @beverlymeans2380 6 років тому

    Where is the link for the fabric bow?

  • @joycericketts3504
    @joycericketts3504 6 років тому

    Hi I would love to join the mentoring program. How do I get into. Thanks

  • @kathyelliston2019
    @kathyelliston2019 5 років тому

    When did you remove the stabilizer?

  • @3larsons
    @3larsons 7 років тому +2

    Thank you! This was awesome!!

  • @lindasherman2021
    @lindasherman2021 7 років тому

    Where can you find the pattern for this baby?

  • @Miss-Laine
    @Miss-Laine 5 років тому

    What fabric are you using? What fabric is the best?
    Who designed your website?

  • @ladypinkbagsetc.9116
    @ladypinkbagsetc.9116 6 років тому

    Great Video!

  • @sharonblake1
    @sharonblake1 7 років тому +2

    I love your videos. So informative. I am working on getting my embroidery business going. I tried to join your website , but since I have not started by business yet I guess I cannot join.
    You have a wonderful personality also

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому +2

      Aww! Thank you... If you consider hiring a mentor.. let me know, I have very little slots still open... OR let me know [by sending me a private message on facebook] when you get your embroidery machine.. reapply to the group... and I will look for your name on the list to approve...

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому +1

      Thank you, for watching my video!

    • @dorothyborras4858
      @dorothyborras4858 7 років тому

      sharon blake night

  • @janetmckinney2487
    @janetmckinney2487 5 років тому

    where can I get the design.

  • @gospelking6246
    @gospelking6246 6 років тому

    Whats the correct machine you have

  • @Cynthia2v
    @Cynthia2v 8 років тому

    Beautiful bibs, lucky baby! I really enjoyed watching, where do you purchase your labels? Those are super nice!

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  8 років тому +1

      Hello! Thank you, for watching! Actually I did a video presentation on the labels. Here's the link! Using this link will get you the promotion for my viewers... Only, that I will tell you, the company has slightly changed them for my promotion - It is Buy 100, Get 100 Free! Thanks - This link is for a limited time as well.. It has been updated but it will expire if you wait too long.. Good Luck! You're going to love these labels.. ua-cam.com/video/BLnio_kWRv4/v-deo.html

  • @n23391
    @n23391 7 років тому

    What embroidery machine?

  • @ingerwilliams8659
    @ingerwilliams8659 7 років тому

    how much will a good machine cost?

  • @sandrasterling6417
    @sandrasterling6417 7 років тому

    Hi Kandia, I'm so sorry to have bothered you. I found the correct Hop Scotch Applique Font. There is more that 1 Hop Scotch Applique Font. Everyone, just keep looking & you will find the correct one. Also, for the 2017 Summer Jolson's Designs fonts are $1.00. Again, Thank You!

    • @cutflower36
      @cutflower36 7 років тому

      they don't have the one she used on the site, but other one with the same name

  • @sweetwaterfarmhouse1074
    @sweetwaterfarmhouse1074 6 років тому

    That’s too cute!!

  • @EmaAmbraMorghi
    @EmaAmbraMorghi 7 років тому +2

    ciao. hello I write from Italy.
    you're very good.
    you're my idol.
    I wanted to ask you how can I have the bib file pes format?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      PES format is based on the kind of embroidery machine you have.. If you have a brother machine - then it reads PES format.. So, the way you will be able to get PES format files is by having a brother machine...

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Thanks for watching my video!

    • @DianneR-ei2zu
      @DianneR-ei2zu 6 років тому

      I have the brother machine I have the brother HE-240 embroidery can I use my machine and what size can I do with a 5x7 hoop and how can I get the file

  • @danielbooker2590
    @danielbooker2590 7 років тому +1

    What Make and model machine did you use?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      For this video, I used the Brother Entrepreneur Pro 1000e. Thank you, for watching!

  • @cynthiasimon1313
    @cynthiasimon1313 8 років тому

    What stabilizer and batting are you using?
    thanks

  • @DianneR-ei2zu
    @DianneR-ei2zu 6 років тому

    I have my own business and I make clothes and else I want know where you get your machine from and how much

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  6 років тому

      Thank you, for watching! Embroidery machines can be purchased online or from authorized dealers. You can google a brother authorized dealer near you..

  • @CoFFee123..
    @CoFFee123.. Рік тому

    Is this type of bib still popular in 2023? My friend told me that the bandana bib is commonly used now.

  • @cecilmask6890
    @cecilmask6890 7 років тому

    His mom and dad joined our class today.

  • @1chozenvesl
    @1chozenvesl 7 років тому

    Can these bibs be done with 4x4 hoops?

  • @UtahGmaw99
    @UtahGmaw99 6 років тому

    Hi hon, I bought the pattern for the bibs and it won't load into my machine because it's to big a file. I did unzip it and choose the PES file, tried loading it like usual but no luck. I have a single needle machine Brother inovis 1500 D. Any ideas?

    • @jillce
      @jillce 4 роки тому

      hi I have brother 2100 and was wondering if it work on my machine also, as its a single needle

  • @margaretpoynot2210
    @margaretpoynot2210 6 років тому

    Hi, where do you have your tags made? I never thought of having them.

    • @apaniiwachante
      @apaniiwachante 5 років тому

      ikaprint.com is the website where she got them.

  • @tracytorchon7762
    @tracytorchon7762 7 років тому +2

    What type of stabilizer are you using here?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому +1

      Medium Weight to light weight stabilizer should be used. Thank you, for watching!

    • @osewhoopy9253
      @osewhoopy9253 6 років тому

      A cut-away? Thank you.

    • @carolines5559
      @carolines5559 5 років тому

      You can use watersoluble too. Just put two layers. When the bib is washed its disolved and makes the bib less stiff for the babys neck.

  • @TakersLady2010
    @TakersLady2010 7 років тому

    Can this be done in a 5x7 Hoop? Thanks for a great video.

  • @shulondmyer5226
    @shulondmyer5226 6 років тому +1

    Where do you get your tags made?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  6 років тому

      ikaprint.com/product/buy-1-get-1-for-free-1-14-white-satin-labels/?wpam_id=33

    • @shulondmyer5226
      @shulondmyer5226 6 років тому

      Thanks. You are such an inspiration to me.

  • @pjturner57
    @pjturner57 6 років тому

    If anyone is after some beautiful In The Hoop designs have a look at Sweet Pea Designs. They are an Australian company specializing in ITH projects. Their instructions are very good.

  • @trishafricke
    @trishafricke 7 років тому +1

    Where is the link for the 4 bibs?

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Thanks for watching! Here's the link for the series..
      ua-cam.com/play/PLz0urfOazhpnguSNlRk_fSuwYP__xxFa5.html

  • @marietteforget7804
    @marietteforget7804 7 років тому

    Thank you! 😎🌸

  • @tracytorchon7762
    @tracytorchon7762 7 років тому

    What font is the name in?

  • @cherylbearden261
    @cherylbearden261 2 роки тому

    Didgistitch takes you to Juju designs and that bib is not there

  • @tyesha324
    @tyesha324 3 роки тому

    why does the bib seem so small once its finished

  • @CRRBennett
    @CRRBennett 7 років тому

    so bummed. my largest hoop is 200mmx200mm. I have a Brother Persona 100.

    • @KandiaHaynesworth
      @KandiaHaynesworth  7 років тому

      Hi Rachelle! Thank you, for watching my videos! What is the equivalent to your maximum hoop size? 7X12? 6X10? 9X14?

    • @CRRBennett
      @CRRBennett 7 років тому

      so my largest hoop is the 200 mm x 200 mm which is 7 7/8 x 7 7/8 hoop. not sure what the actual stitch size is. so roughly 7x7. I'm short 5 inches one direction. :( I really like these bibs too. All the others I see fit the 5x7 hoops that you have to piece together not all one piece.

  • @karinasalas5088
    @karinasalas5088 6 років тому

    Podrían poner videos en Español Porfavor

    • @marybrown5664
      @marybrown5664 4 роки тому

      I would like to purchase it from I couldn't hear first part of the word "......stitch.com.

  • @MsDolphins87
    @MsDolphins87 5 років тому

    Do you have to have embroidery software to make this bib?