Great information, but he’s really glossing over the part where Jews assimilated into communities that converted to Christianity or Islam. In other words, Palestinians are descendants from the same ancestors. Zionism is the idea that an exiled people have a right to return to an area they left two thousand years ago and then take the land of their own people. Pretty wild irony.
I kind of agree. They’re probably the most narcissistic of all religions on earth. This is coming from an agnostic person. They are interesting to learn about.
@@Kyle906-Q8 how about Christians - the ONLY ones going to heaven no matter how they act. Moslems, who make all infidels 2nd class citizens in their countries and charge them protection tax. Religions in general are quite narcissistic when they insist they're the best.
I'm okay with him admiring the tenacity and the long continuous history of the/his people and is indeed a testament that a minority could last that long. however, i personally prize humility over pride and any people that hold a strong belief in being the "chosen one" risk falling into the trap of arrogance and forging enmity with the "lesser outsiders". homogenous societies can develop a very strong bond within, but if Homo Sapiens is to survive millenia, we cannot keep harping on about tribal superiorities.
I haven't even watched the video but I was wondering what he was going to say about Jews and their national dish (Chinese food). Those jokes are still funny even after a few years of hearing them.
@@Galuppi728Asian restaurant is actually Chinese restaurant. The Chinese indeed don’t cook dairy products with meat. Also, Chinese only use diary products for desert type food, not main dish.
Love Dr. Abramson and his channel is really really insanely great from multiple perspectives especially for educational purposes and would totally recommend to anyone looking for insights in Jewish History. Really great to see him on JLI! "Within walking distance of a synagogue of a ritual bath and of an Asian restaurant" that would be classic Dr. Abramson!
I love Henry, one of my favourite UA-camrs and as someone interested in Jewish culture and history, I always like to hear what he has to say first. A very respectable gentleman.
Tgtg The human being wrote the prophecies of the Bible but is not the author. DISPERSION: (Deutoronomy 64) "And the Lord will scatter you among all the peoples, from one end of the earth to the other end"(NO OTHER PEOPLE OF THE WORLD HAS BEEN DISPERSED LIKE ISRAEL) PRESERVATION (Isaiah 66) "For as the new heavens and the new earth that I make will remain before me, says the Lord, so your offspring and your name will remain." ISRAEL WILL BE A NATION AGAIN: (Ezekiel 36) "And I will take you from the nations, and gather you from all lands, and bring you to your country." (prophecy fullfilled after WW2) I invite you to visit light and fortitude youtube channel to listen testimonials and songs from Iglesia La Luz del Mundo (Church The Light of the World)
Yehudi Menuhin once commented that there are a lot of Jewish violinists, but fewer pianists because when you have to flee it's easier to take a violin to your next destination.
Stringed instruments similar to violins exist in other societies from Africa to China. They are used in the traditional music of all these societies. Not just Jewish society.
@@helenamcginty4920 People would be shocked but Palestinians are actually closer to biblical Jews than Jews that now run Israel and who came from Europe.
@@helenamcginty4920 ? Well nobody said they were. What I mean is pianos were not a thing Jewish peasants had access to.. and this is where we get Ashkenazi Jewish traditional music from . Violins were popular for about 250 years as the main instrument. If you have this as your main instrument you will get somebody who's good at playing it and they can transition to other forms of music.. but if you'd have pianos you are less likely to get into playing them. Jews were known for fiddle and violin playing in the 19 century in many countries. Hence some very skilled Jews became famous. It's not unusual
No Muslim ever hates a Jew for following their religion. We stand with you for your religion but the state of Israel has committed many crimes as an official state and that’s what we stand against
@@Salamwamat Islam saved Jews from persecution countless times in the Middle East and Spain. This time Jews were the aggressors in early 1900s and backstabbed us.
Thank you. I don't think you can speak for all Muslims any more than I can speak for all Jews. Israel and the potential for Israel existing with or without atrocities was a problem for the Arab Muslim community even when it was still under the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman authority over the area wanted to welcome European Jews to live anywhere in the Ottoman Empire except we're Israel is today. They felt the drive and power in Zionism in the face of the Christian violence against us throughout Eastern Europe and they didn't like it. They first saw us as Russian emigrant-refugees which was threatening to another level. By WWII the British controlled things and they were divided in what should happen but their Empire always also crumbling by the end of WWII. Ruling over other people seems to be always a horrible thing. Throughout history it has never been or rarely a good outcome for people. Genetically and religiously we're cousins.
@@honeybeechanger I appreciate your answer. I can assure you that I speak on behalf of Islam and the Quran when I tell you that the people of the book are inherently friends of Islam. We are deeply connected and we are not allowed to simply hate others. We are commanded to fight where we were fought and regain our homes when they are stolen. For that is a right. “Allāh does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allāh loves those who act justly.” - Quran: Al-mumtahana verse 8
The Palestinians have been genetically proven to descend from Jews who converted to Christianity and Islam. They just never left the land. They are not 'recent Arab migrants' and are genetically almost indistinguishable from Mezrahis. They are Levantines who speak Arabic. Before the Levantines, the Natufians lived in that region for thousands of years. The fact that our Jewish identity is now based on invalidating the identity of the Palestinians is really awful and sad to me, and did not exist before the Zionist movement. I refuse to define Judaism as a race when science shows it is not a unique race. It is a religion. And one third of modern Israelis are atheists! While the Christians and Muslim descendants of ancient Israelites who are today believing in God, the Tanakh, the Torah, are being expelled and massacred to make way for atheists! What a far cry from the ancient kingdom of Israel. May God help us to stop this madness.
Brilliantly put! Its shows how much things are geopolitics than 'Jews'. Making Jews sometimes religious and sometimes racial make a wide way for abuse for geopolitical ends. The best solution is make the whole area independent and free for all. Call it Israel or Palestine or Mars whatever, doesn't matter, as long it is free for all with absolute equal rights. Give Jews special treatment some of the times, the Christians some other times, Muslims some other times, heck even secularist other times too. If Jews want a peaceful, secure existence, it should be in the US, the UK or Germany since they love Jews exclusively. That none would like to lose a small part of their country for a Jewish ethnostate will make them realise why the Palestinians also do not. Btw, Israel is only 15% in size of Florida, so should be a no brainer to the US to create a Jews exclusive region, fully secured by US military with no hostile neighbours, and getting all the benefits of a industrious bunch! But then, exactly, no. Why? Because it is all geopolitics. Imperialism. The world has been fooled. The Bible and Jews are just very convenient and effective rams. After all, like Prof Abrahamson said, Jews never left the area fully, so the idea that Jews lost their ancestral land and making a grand return is a total lie. They could have returned peacefully. Many actually did and were accepted by the Palestinians but then went on stealing their hosts' home, through violence. Nobody would accept that. Or should.
@@johnwebber750 ?? When did the returning Jews "keep stealing homes"? Just the mere fact that you say this proves that there needs to be a country that states Jews will not be persecuted or dispelled (and no, stating that doesn't make ean 'ethnostate'. Evidence, multi-faith, multi-ethnic modern Israel). And you mention Germany??? Germany was a liberal modern multicultural nation when it was captured by ideology. Don't get taken in by a false narrative yourself. The only time "stealing land" is kinda true (if you squint and turn your head to the side) is following the 1st Arab-Israeli war when 700k Arabs were displaced. But how many were land owners is unknown. How many had arrived as migrant workers is unknown. This also was an era of displacement as modern countries were drawn. Look at Silesia. Look at Czechoslovakia. Why is THIS one jumping out at you?
Listening again to Dr Abramson after some time, I recall my initial impression of him as infectiously inspirational with his scholarship but also his humanity. I SALUTE HIM.
Really enjoyed this. Thank you. First time I've heard Dr Abramson and will be listening again, and again. Am quite pleased at how much of this history I already know - at age 81 it's good to realise one has learnt something!
I heard that the protection of Jews by the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages had a more sinister motive. The policy was that they should be allowed to survive, but not thrive; and the purpose was that their visibly outcast and often miserable status would serve as an object lesson on the consequences of rejecting Christ.
The Israelis (Who control Food import, power and water to Gaza) suggested the Gazan should be kept just above starving when it came to food supplies. "To survive and not to thrive!"
This is why I really appreciate as a non Jew, Dr. Abramson's perspectives and his lectures and learning about Jewish history from him. He is one of my top favorites.
This is a masterclass of a man sharing knowledge. Not propaganda. The backdrop being this horrific war in the holy land. I say this because, here is a man, discussing real, factual information. Rather than a man screaming for the blood of others, screaming victimhood, screaming in defense of terrorism.
This guy is a real scholar. We've had many of them brought up in the algorithm over the last year. Isn't it a shame that it takes a catastrophe before such knowledge can be made readily available to the masses.
The Church didn't break away from the Mother religion. Judaism developed alongside the Christian church after the Temple was destroyed. The Judaism practiced today isn't what Jesus practiced.
When I taught World Religion in college I argued that Christianity was older than Judiaism. The "cultus" made the difference. The Mishna and Talmud are canon of Pharisic thought.
@@xIQ188x See Wikipedia under 'Bar Kokhba Revolt". From 135AD Christians and Jews saw themselves as distinct peoples. Jesus was Jewish, but was hostle towards the belief in an Oral Law (Mishna).
@@xIQ188x That isn't what they said. "The Judaism practiced today isn't what Jesus practiced" is not that neither are Jewish, but rather that religion changes over time due to a multitude of factors. Modern Christianity is very different from what it was 500 or 1000 years ago, even in the same places. Change happens, all the time. The point is you shouldn't blindly assume that what something is today is the same as what it was 2000 years ago. Just a quick example, originally Judaism didn't have rabbis, that was something that developed over time.
@@Lowlandlord okay, but that isn’t what he said. He said Christianity did not break away from the Judaism, which is blatantly false. It’s not even clear what sort of point he was trying make. Yes, religions change over time. That doesn’t negate the fact that Christianity is a direct offshoot of Judaism.
Crusaders who entered into Jerusalem in 1099 slaughtered both Jews and Muslims. There is a record of a pogrom against Jews in Safed in 1517. There's always been Jews in their homeland, there's never been a time there wasn't.
@draoi99 get your history right kiddo. First, the muslims came and chopped the heads of Christians and Jews then built al aqsa, which is still the most disrespectful grotesque disgusting slap in the face to all Judeo-Christians around the world.
Before Abraham came as an illegal immigrant there weren’t any Jews just the forefathers of the Palestinians, they have always been there and still are. Get your facts straight 😂
@@allaboutperspective650So... the so-called "Palestinians" are Grecian in origin? Like, did you think about what you were going to say before you said it? Have you even studied _any_ History, Anthropology, and Genetics? SMH No, the current Palestinians are a bunch of Arabs, completely unconnected from the Philistines.
He seems very sincere, but even he would admit that much of the historical record is based on the writings of who was in power at the time, and in the case of the Hebrews, based on the accurate transmission of the Oral tradition. So it is inherently inaccurate and must not be relied upon to be entirely factual. Religion based on the Bible or Koran is likewise encumbered with this uncertainty and is therefore largely based on faith.
The Jews always had historians who kept history records. You really don’t need the Bible to know their history. History and archeological findings confirms there life.
Easily the most balanced and rational among Jewish voices that I've heard on YT in the recent weeks. However, this historian is completely silent on current events, and that's surely a deliberate choice, and a sad shame. The world needs some more honest commentators, and more consequential thinkers opining on the current conflict.
Dr. Abramson answered all tough questions very wisely in a composed, compromising manner including Jewish-Christian relations. I am a Hindu from India living in the USA. I have always been amazed at how the Jews built a prosperous nation in Israel out of a largely barren land given to them in 1948. Israel has helped India in many ways, sharing advanced defense technology, agricultural tech for farmers. Majority of the 1 billion Hindus in India support the Jews and Israel strongly. Long live Israel and India/Bharat - two ancient civilizations.
I would argue that the Jews also helped to build much of the modern USA. New York is only as great as it is because of the Jews, and their contributions particularly in the sciences and business have been monumental.
Palestine was never a barren land. The Negev desert can be said to be barren land but the rest of Palestine was very fertile and had a large population. In 1948 European Jews managed to get 80% of the land and drive 80% of the Arabs into 20% of the land. There was not much development in Palestine until the fall of the Soviet union in 1990. Then in the 1990s highly educated 'Russian Jews" moved to Israel to escape the bad economic conditions in Russia. They made the Israeli economy grow by leaps and bounds. However they were resented by extremist Jews who wanted a more religious Israel. As a result there is a movement of smart people out of Israel. So it appears Israel is on the way down. This process will be accelerated soon as most Americans have enough of Israel.
lsraeI also helped assassinate Indira and Rajiv Gandhi. lsrael also steadfastly supported Apartheid South Africa which negatively affected Indians in South Africa.
The fist jew I ever came across was when I was seven years old, playing hardball in the street, I was in the outfield, all of a sudden the guys in the infield drop everything and run toward me. I look behind me and there is a kid about our age walking by. I join the chase, not knowing who he was just a little dog following the pack. A block and a half and the kid jumps a fence and his father comes out. I was stuck on the fence and he grabs me and takes me through the house and out the front door. Being a kid who made his own decisions about people I later met this kid and he invited me over to his house. We didn't hit it off but I later understood that he was Jewish. Why do people who never met a Jew hate them?
This is question I always ask myself being from other side of the world and belonging to non-abrahmic religion.. Would like to get some authentic information on this topic in the form of a Book of Scholar like the guest of this video Dr Henry Abramson. It will be great if he himself can answer this message.
In the 1940 ties when I was at a junior boys school in Bulawayo (Rhodesia) at break time 10.30am , I asked friends why two boys were being chased by two or three other boys. The reply was "they are Jews" but I said you are also Jews ? The reply was "Yes but we are good Jews "🙄
It's the rage inducing elitism. Treating others as unclean, as lesser human beings than yourself never goes down well. It doesn't matter what your persuasion, if you act as though you are everyone else's superiour you will be universally hated & rightfully so.
I stumbled upon Dr. Abramson's channel a few months back, it the wake of the horrific Oct 7th attacks on Israel, and it has been an enormous blessing. His passion for the Jewish faith is always apparent, and especially in this interview. I myself am a professing Chrstian, and I am indebted to Dr. Ambramson for all his wisdom and knowledge.....every video I learn something new. Today I learned about this doctrine of witness, something that I was not familiar with at all....but that makes total sense....and now I have to do some more reading on it.
@@tonyfarebrother6404 how do you deal with a population that is led by a group (Hamas) that has as its stated objected your total and absolute destruction? Do you just say...'oh well, if they want murder our people and destroy our nation, there's nothing we can do"? Or do you take steps to proect your nation and its citizens?
@@tonyfarebrother6404 if the people of Gaza were not constantly committing acts of terrorism against Israel and its citizens there would be no need for things like a security fence obviously....Egypt was offered the Gaza strip back during the Camp David peace accords in 1978/79 but they didn't want it because of the extremist elements within the population....they were happy to take the sparsely populated Sinai Penninsula though.....Egypt didn't want the Arab Palestinians, Jordan kicked them out....this situtation is so complex and sadly some like simple grade two level reasoning.
@@englishfrog Israel, wants to exterminate the Palestinians and seize all their land,, that’s is the problem and they treat them like dirt, this is the root cause of the problem , Israel has now moved to fascism . The so called terrorist attacks are used to justify mass killings by Israel. Israel was founded by terrorism. . Every decent human being should be condemning Israel.
Josephus said this: But two tribes in Asia (aka Middle East today) and Europe were subject to the Romans, while the ten tribes are beyond the Euphrates till now, and are an immense multitude, and not to be estimated by numbers. (The Antiquities of the Jews Book XI 5:2)
Many people confuse the concepts of Zionism and Semitism. The latter is specific to the people of the Levant, they're all Semites. So, when many erroneously talk about anti-semitism, they're actually referring to all Semites, not just Jews.
"Muslim conquest of Jerusalem" Please watch this video. Muslims believe in Moses and Jesus as prophets. What is holy to Jews and Christians are holy to Muslims. Ottomans also valued Jews, they even forced Jews to move into Istanbul/Constantinople. Beyazid II, said something like "your loss, my gain" When Spain deported Jews, and took them to Ottoman Empire.
Read the Book of Deuteronomy the Blessings and Curses of God to the Israelites. Deuteronomy 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31. God put the Israelites out of Canaan Land for their disobedience God scattered his people to the uttermost parts of the Earth. That means they didn't go just to Eastern European countries. They went all over the world.
The 1878 Ottoman census of Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts reported the following demographics: Muslim: 403,795 people, or 85.5% of the population Christian: 43,659 people, or 9.2% of the population Jewish: 15,001 people, or 3.2% of the population Foreign-born Jewish: An estimated 10,000 people, or 2.1% of the population The total population of the districts was 472,455.
Yeah the ottomans settled the Samaritans there around this time too as well as some Circassians and also about this time German Christians began coming as religious settlers
@@ashercohen5034 Samaritans are native to what is now northern central Israel.. it's their land they always lived there but in the 19th century the ottomans gave them a specific place to reside as a community as prior to that the few remaining were very dispersed. They get to have their sacred mountain thanks to the ottomans. Otherwise they would probably be extinct now.
Here's one, that Jericho was an inhabited walled city in the supposed time of the conquest. There are ruins of large thick walls, no doubt, but they're from before 2000 BC and they were destroyed by an earthquake, archaeology has come a long way. If you were living in Canaan and you saw mysterious wall ruins you just might make up a story about them, not having access to written history from the 2000s BC to know what really ruined them and when. It's an interesting story actually, the real one I mean, the walls were quite a wonder apparently, look it up sometime.
Absolutely. Reading Jewish history is what made me love Jews & return to my roots, Jewish ancestry! Or at least, I'm still on the journey, having finally left Christianity in Oct 2022.
I found all of his very, very fascinating. Do you are in the Jewish based religion… Abraham… Going along, thinking that Jesus is the messiah the Jews until you decide that he’s not on the side of the juice I couldn’t be but instead of dropping the whole Bronze Age into Iron Age religion, you stick with it because you believe in the Canaanite war, God, YHWH, and stuff written about him I mean, that’s cool, I guess… Doing a messiah reset… I know you’re still waiting for the Messiah to come. A different guy who probably doesn’t need to be the son of God just the savior of Israel and the third temple and all of that I’d like to hear more about your journey because it someway as it seems like act of faith and knowledge in growing towards the true God, the one God that you were inculcated into believing was the true god of earth, from one of the great original monotheistic religions, Judaism. Until something made you feel a little less than convinced about Jesus being the guy. OK. Again for me. The question is my stick with any of it? If you don’t wanna be in a piece and you wanna believe in one god and you think that YHWH is that one God?
Yea the palistinians and the isrealis are part of the same family. Who were converted by the risa of Islam. The Black jews are the tribe of Juda. End Anti Africanism .
Yeah, they hate those pesky genomes, don't they? You'd think a "tribal" people with "unbroken ties" to Antiquity would be more enthusiastic, but it's ALWAYS the opposite. Gee, I wonder why? It's almost like the don't want the objective Truth to come out.....almost ;)
He's not a Rabbi, but you could argue that this guy is a great communicator and a great story teller. I definitely agree that the history of the Jews in the diaspora and pre 1948 Palestine is fascinating. Like all good Jewish story tellers, Dr Abramson has a great sense of humour, a necessary tool in the armory of survival, for all of us.
As a history and philosophy professor myself, I find the exposition of Dr, Abramson quite reasonable. We are taught that it is not very good when you hear an historian and you agree with most of what he says (or worse, with all that he says), but, hearing him, I couldn't help to think "This can be expanded", "There are other factors", or "This other fact is more complex, but I couldn't abridge it so well as he does". Congratulations for not only a truthful and rational understanding of history, but also a clear and sensible one. I don't know if my judgment would be very flawed or not very flawed, but it is one from a Roman Catholic Goy.
"A source for what I already seemed to know" is the definition of confirmation bias. When this lines up you should ask how accurate and truthful it actually is?
There was a time when I thought metal was cold to the touch. I found a scientist who explained this. Metal is a great conductor of heat. It will readily cool to the ambient temperature which is generally cool. If you touch it it will transmit that cold to your fingers more effectively than most other materials. He said exactly what I already knew, that metal is cold to the touch. Then I saw some metal that was glowing red and I tried to pick it up.
Thank you once again for sharing your extensive knowledge of the history of the Jewish people. I always enjoy your clarification of the history against the many myths. I used to repeat the myth that Jews were NOT allowed to own land. However, while I was staying in Krakov, Poland, I visited the Jewish Quarter and learned its history. In the 1300s, King Kazimierz III saw that the Orthodox Jews were struggling to observe their religious tenets, while they were living separately in various Christian neighbourhoods of the city of Krakov. He donated land across the Vistula River from his palace to be for Jewish settlement. When the Nazi’s occupied Krakov, there were almost 50,000 Jews living in Kazimierz and there were 5 active Synagogues. Interestingly, in the beginning of the movie, Schindler’s List, you see the long march of Jews carrying suitcases across a bridge, headed for the Ghetto in the industrialised area of Krakov. They were leaving Kazimierz, the Jewish Quarter, and its well built houses, apartment buildings, shops and civic structures. Once emptied, the Nazi military and government moved in and established residence in Kazimierz. I learned this at the museum that now occupies The High Synagogue in the Jewish Quarter of Krakov.
Henry and I were friends in Toronto in mid 70s (around our bar mitzvah years).My old friend from Ansonville Ont. seems to be doing fantastic and when this video popped up I read "Dr Henry Abramson" then looked at the thumbnail and knew in a second that is him almost 50 years later.Henry (if you see this) do you remember Michael Risman? or Brian Huber? (we were 14 year old troublemakers when we hung out together but also good Jewish boys). Great video and I am not just an old friend I am now a fan of Dr.Henry (once a card carrying member of Brian Hubers "Elsabobs" secret fraternity).The name came from a line in Queens Bohemian Rhapsody actually and we had no idea what it meant and misheard it.I think there were 4 of us in our club with Lorney Hoffbauer being the 4th.Cheers Dr.A. -Michael Risman.
I just love the Jewish people I know. As an Irish American lapsed Catholic I have a deep appreciation of Jewish performers in film, television, and music. I can't imagine America without our Jewish brothers and sisters.
When all is said and done, Jews are just a people who practise a particular religion, Judaism. We all have a history just as long as Jews otherwise I wouldn't be writing this now. We are all human beings.
Dr. Abramson, considering that there has been a significant Jewish presence in the land of Israel up until at least the Muslim conquest, would you subscribe to the idea that Palestinians today are largely descendants of those Jews (and perhaps Samaritans as well) who had given up their Judaism?
@@eugenedavid3932 David Ben-Gurion and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi disagree with you: _"The fellahin_ [farmers] _are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement. Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged."_ David Ben-Gurion and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, _Eretz Israel in the Past and in the Present,_ Jerusalem, 1918, reprinted 1979 (in Hebrew), p196 Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, a trained ethnologist, reiterated this again later: _"The great majority of the fellahin do not descend from the Arab conquerors, but before that, from the Jewish fellahin, who were the foundation of this country before its conquest by Islam."_ Yitzhak Ben Zvi, _Our Population in the Country, The Executive Committee of the Youth Alliance and the JNF,_ 1929 Palestinians have a greater claim to being the descendants of the ancient Israelites than modern Jews do.
Henry, he asked you about the period after the second Temple and you talked about the period after the first Temple....Or did you mean the second Temple? How many temples do you think existed? I count only two thus far.
Dr. Abramson is more than aware that we're currently awaiting the Prophet Elijah to herald the arrival of the 3rd Temple, as it states at the end of the book of Malachi.
I would love to hear more about the nature of Jewish migration to Europe. It is obviously much more complex than "Hardian kicked the Jews out" as already alluded to in this video. I have recently heard that many Jewish residents of the Roman Empire migrated to other parts of the Empire long before and well after the 1st century in search of better or just different lives, in the same way someone might move from New Mexico to New York.
Some left but many stayed and farmed the outer lands. 50 percent of Jews in Israel are from the Middle East. The formed the Land of Judaea and Israel. Came back several time after being run out. They built 2 temples that were torn down at different times where the dome of the rock is now.
@@tamaramousley8597 the 50% you are talking about are mostly Mizrahim, who’s ancestry often goes way back to Babylon and Persia. I’m more curious about the migrations north. Into Rome proper and then into the balkans etc
So many people seem to be unaware of the Jewish colonies along the western coast of India. There is evidence of Jews in India since before Christ. During the early 1800s, Claudius Buchanan, a chaplain of the British East India Company, documented studies of the Jews in the southern state of Kerala, and determined that there had been many migrations throughout the centuries, reaching into the B.C. era. He labeled some of them as "black Jews" (not necessarily black, but looked more similar to the native population), and "white Jews" (later migrations, who were still more distinct in their appearance). In addition to that, Kerala also has a large early migration of "Syrian Christians". My hypothesis is, that the Syrian people have no reason to leave their own country en masse, but rather, since the majority of the early Christians were, in fact, Jews, these were also ethnic Jews, who had been settled in Syria (Jews were always dispersed, which is why the apostle Paul traveled widely, to spread the news of the Messiah to the Jews settled far and wide.) In addition to that, since the Jews themselves persecuted their fellow Jews for the "heresy" of accepting Jesus as the Messiah, they were further dispersed. The gentiles were a minority, the Jews the majority, in the early Christian Church. Roman Catholicism is an entirely different religion, but early Christianity was just Judaism, where Jews accepted that the Messiah had come already, and that he was Jesus. Anyway, if you want to trace "the lost tribes", or just the presence of Jews throughout the world, India has been greatly overlooked. Of course I know that there was a migration back when Israel was founded, but their bloodlines are still there.
You can't be 'ethnically' Jewish - Judaism is a religion which you can convert to if you wish - Jews are ethnically diverse. You've mistaken the obligation to follow the Torah if your mother is halachically Jewish - you can be born with that obligation, but still follow another religion or none at all. The obligation has nothing to do with ethnicity because your Jewish mother could be African, European, Arab, Asian, etc.
Judaism is a religion not an ethnicity. It used to actively recruit converts. Even 2000 years ago the majority of Jews were converts who lived outside Israel.
I would say, in response to the question 'was the ancient church anti semitic', that the very earliest Christians were persecuted by the Roman and Jewish authorities. In that respect, it's fair to say that the Jewish state was, by and large, anti gentile.
Cheers matey! Really lovely vibe and could listen to you all day ;-0) But there's one highly contentious issue really at the heart of Judaism for me... Asian restaurants?!?!?
I am a history buff especially Jewish history. And when I read and learn it, I realize that the Torah’s predictions are 100% accurate. Looking forward for the final Redemption
IMAM ALI 📖 " Muslims and non-Muslims should be treated alike . Muslims are your brothers and non-Muslims are human beings just like you". ( Islamic concept by ALI brother of Holy Prophet Of Islam peace be upon Him 🙏)
I've always been puzzled why the Old Testament really forms part of Christian teaching but Abramson inadvertently makes a suggestion, comparison, no 'nagging doubt' but clearly showing the errors if the old and the truth of the new 'Follow me for I have seen', might be worded as at witness to criminallity, nothing less litteral than that.
The Jews have persevered as a people because they are Gods chosen people! I am white, American, female and a Christian, who believes that Jesus is the Messiah, spoken of in the Old Testament. Jesus was a Jew. , I love Him. The Jews are His people, that He originally died for, therefore, I love the Jewish people as well!! God is with Israel.
The mystery & beauty of scripture: Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. John 8:14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go. We all have sinned this is why God came in the flesh to die for our sins. Rejecting His forgiveness and payment for sin with ones own free will is receiveing what one's free choice will bring which s eternity apart from His glory which is reserved for those Who love Jesus Christ because He first loved us.
Yes the Jews were there for 1000s of years. But how did they acquire the land in the first place? They had to invade and kill the Canaanites and steal their land. Apparently God promised them that land. So God is guilty of murder and theft as well. I too have a book of deeds and I will judge God on judgement day. 😅
Didn’t answer the actual question regarding dispersion. Kept going back to the same answer “there were always Jews”. What about the rest? Prophecy said they would be scattered to the four corners of the earth. Was it false? What of historical records of Hebrew cultures being observed by missionaries over the centuries?
@@mikev4621 Thanks, glad someone else was alert while listening. It helps a lot to keep context of utterances, and actual scripture, in mind when listening to such - during this time that we are in. The video in this link popped up in my feed immediately after I watched this one. Haven’t watched all of it, but find it interesting that the algorithm brought them up and in succession. ua-cam.com/video/zN5lvSoICOI/v-deo.htmlsi=VqrRc54BMX-JJXqB
@@Ntuthu-ZA @mikev4621 Still plenty of Jews living in the Galilee (enough for another revolt in 352), and still there when the Muslims arrived three centuries later. Exiled from Jerusalem for a while, but not all of Israel.
As an ex-Catholic I'm in awe of R. Abramson's understanding of Catholic theology. Yes, the Church has a lot to answer for and IMO it's only just chiseled at the corners of that responsibility. But I'm here now with K'nessed Israel and I pray for the conversion of the Church, just like I did decades ago praying for the conversion of the Jews. 🤣 If anyone can bridge the gap it's the current pope, a Jesuit, who had a profound understanding of the history of the relationship between Christians and Jews. I can only pray.
@@FelixLaManna Yet He will use a rebellious nation that He has never stopped loving to show His faithfulness to Himself and His mercy. We all need His mercy.
@michaelherriott9767 He sure did up to 70AD. That is long past and that fake colonizer/settler nation that is here today has no more prophetic or Scriptural relevance than a Mcdonalds Restaurant on the corner of a street
@michaelherriott9767 God stopped dealing with them as a nation quite a while ago now (like 70AD). Didnt you get the memo? Have you actually read the book of Hebrews?
The majority of Muslim Palestinians descend from local inhabitants mainly Christians and Jews who had converted to Islam after the Islamic conquest in the 7th century A.D.
As well as most Christians of the Babylon/Iraq area. During the Muslim conquests of the 7/8th century, most Christians in the conquest lands concerted to Islam . Except for Spain/Al-Andalus. Where the Muslim rulers were much more tolerant. Christian and Jewish communities also still existed in Babylonia. The Muslim rulers even had religious and philosophical debates with Christian/Jewish leaders (bishops and rabbis), about the theology of each religion!
@@yannick245 Egypt was famously tolerant of other Abrahamic religions for along time, the same time you are talking about. Islam was generally pretty tolerant for most of it's history.
@@Lowlandlord ONLY to "people of the book". So the Abrahamic religions. I actually don't know much of, for example, the centuries long Mamluk (former Caucasian slaves) rule of Egypt. But I know about the status of the Al-Azhar university for Sunni islam. The problem is that the host nation is basically a military dictatorship. Of course the Muslim brotherhood is for Sharia rule. But they're much more moderate than the Wahabis/Salafis in Saudi Arabia. Which are the two major international schools of the teachings of Sunni Islam and the world. Both built a worldwide net of mosques and schools. With the Wahabis having the Saudi financial resources, the Brotherhood is sponsored by Qatar. Which makes Sunni Islam more and more "franchised", if you want to call it like that. Other schools of Sunni Islam are losing ground or are bound to regions or countries. But they don't play a major role in Da'wa internationally. Sunni Islam is much more diverse than most people in the West think! But the same is happening with Shia Islam. Where Iran exports it's version in the Middle East (the s.c. "Shia crescent/half moon). Say what you want about Shiism and Iran: They're the only country in the Middle East where there's still a small Jewish/Non-Zionist community! Which has even a reserved seat in the parliament. Even if they don't reach the necessary votes (the community consists of only 10,000 people in Teheran). They're no "hostages of the state". There just never have been violent attacks on the Jews in general or ultimatums to leave for Israel. Like in the Arab nations after the Nakba. Although 290.000 out of the formerly 300.000 did indeed leave. But without having to flee. Today they can be compared to the small Armenian community in al-Quds's/Jerusalem's old town. Where they have their own literal quarter. Even though there's also a Christian quarter. Which is giving Christians ½ of the old town of al-Quds/Jerusalem! Just a small fun fact. The Mizrahi Jews survived as a community thanks to the Ottomans granting them refuge. After the Spaniards and Portuguese decided to expel or kill all Jews (which didn't convert to Christianity) of the Iberian peninsula, by the Alhambra Decree. The first Zionist settlers and later founders of Israel would shake their heads about many of today's Zionists and the radical right government. Using religion as a reason why they have a "God given right" to the lands of Israel. The first settlers and founders were largely socialist (the Kibbutz system) and belonged to the social democratic labor party. The important thing to them was to have a sovereign Jewish nation state. I still don't know why it had to be in the Holy Land. If you read texts by Ben Gurion, Golda Meir or General or Moshe Dayan, they despised the religious right! I'm German and my family was expelled from North East Prussia (Tilsit, today Sowetsk) by the Soviet Union and the land was just taken. Other parts went to Poland. Why didn't the Jews got East Prussia? It was an exclave with no connection to the rest of Germany already since 1919. With the other lands given to Poland, the distance to Germany would've been even further (today it's a Russian exclave). So the argument that they would be neighbors of their former tormentors wouldn't have been the case and the surving Ashkenazi Jews, thst played the most important role in the foundation of Israel would've lived close to their centuries long homelands. Many ultraorthodox Jews refuse the legitimateness of the state of Israel. In the US, UK and even in Israel. Since in Judaism, only the Messiah is allowed to bring back the Jews out of their, imposed by God, exile and lead them back into the Holy Land. I don't think any Jewish rabbi would accept Lord Belfour or the United Nations (responsible for the partition plan) as the biblical Messiah! In London you have a group of ultraorthodox Jews (Neturei Karta) protesting alongside Palestinians against Israel. In Israel itself you have the weird situation that there are rabbis and their followers not recognizing the state of Israel, but they and their followers don't work but only study the Tora every day and collect welfare by the state of Israel! Unbelievable! Well, we have the same here in Germany. With many Muslims, although the prophet saw said to respect your host. Well, there's a alternative history novel named "The Yiddish Policemen's Union", were the premise is that, contrary to real history, the United States voted to implement the 1940 Slattery Report, which recommended the provision of land in Alaska for the temporary refugee settlement of European Jews who were being persecuted by the Nazis during World War II. This scenario would've also saved so many lives. From the war of 48 and the Nakba to this very day. The Zionist would've eventually have their Jewish nation state and sanctuary for every Jew in the world and religious Jews could've still practice their religion and wait for the Messiah to finally "lead them to Eretz Israel/the Holy Land". And it would be close to the US. Where more Jews are living than in Israel and more in New York than Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. In total safety! In contrast to the 'safe haven for Jews" Israel. Pardon me for this elaborated answer (I hope it will get through every filter/not deleted)!! I was in a "flow moment" and didn't find a point to stop. Have a nice weekend, wherever you're from!
I am an immigrant from London who has lived in New Zealand for 37 years and I have met older Maori people who believe they are descendants of the 10 lost tribes of Israel.
The history of the Jewish people is truly amazing, and there is something special to their religion. That which makes it special, together with the special circumstance that Diasporah Jews found themselves in, of being a minority that held together while scattered across the world, allow to understand how come they survived. There is a lot of light coming from that, but of course there is also a darker side to it, which happens to unite us all as humans. I refer to the fact that so many of us continue to need religion or any other ideology to give them enough sense of a definite place in the world, or even existential security and hopes of some worthwile destiny. Most people thus adhere to irrational belief, and religion is the oldest expression of humans adhering and conforming to established irrationality, which is a perversion of the human mind which prevents us from true progress and commits us to doom. That side of human nature is dooming us and our end seems closer than ever, brought about by ourselves. It is very difficult to fight that, all the more, I suspect, because it's ingrained in our species makeup. It's in our species genetics, so diversely crazy, yet crazy. One can see this even among most of those considered to be smarter or articulate. Half of them at least.
I became a Christian before I turned in 18, since then I have an unquenchable profound love for Israel/Jews. It saddens me so much to find out that since the first few centuries, a huge percentage of Christianity became anti-Semitic, my heart breaks and CANNOT comprehend how could they have been so wrong and became anti-Semitic???? I have so many questions and I wished I had Jew friends that I could ask them questions. There is so much hateful propaganda about Jews that I would love to combat; can anybody recommend any literature debunking those hateful myths? I would appreciate the information. May God bless all the Jews, may God bless Israel and I bless you with all of my heart.
Maybe people should just know some Jewish people. It’s not like they are hiding. They are among you everyday. It doesn’t seem to bother them unless they have a preconceived idea. So if you’ve never known a black person do people hate them. I’d say yes, because that’s how some people are. Jewish people are no different then any other person. They are funny, smart and likable just like others. What’s the deal on this post?
Israel is not the same as the Jews, do not conflate the government of Israel with them, it goes against the religion and word of God to force an ethno state in the region that has one group as supremacist over the others, all people are created by God equally.
May the Creator continue to bless you too, sustain you, and support you in all your endeavors. Thank you, friend, for your pure heart. He knows, He hears.
There's always been Jews in their homeland, there's never been a time there wasn't, they just converted to Islam and Christianity as time went on, the Palestinians are the ancient jews, not the europeans who converted to judaism.
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This is why this nightmare occurring before us now the genocide of the Palestinians by Israel is so shocking to those of us who expect the highest moral standards from the Jews of Israel because they experienced the Nazi genocide horror and of all peoples should know better.
The only genocide being committed is Arab Moslems against Jews and Israelis. Check out how many Moslems live in Israel and how many Jews in Arab countries , compared to pre-1948
In 2005 when Israel ended the occupation there were 1.3 million Palestinians. Today there is over 2 million. So if the Palestinian population almost doubled in less than 20 years, explain how it’s a genocide.
@@stevenr.2534it’s simply a fabricated rallying call by those who have swallowed the victim narrative. Once it sets in it has become a dot point - using the term inflicted on Jews in the 20thC as a way of achieving a twisted moral equivalency for the atrocities Islamic countries are now committing
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The professor makes some excellent points, but his reference to biblical stories undercuts his claim to be a historian. The bible is as reliable a source of history as it is a source of science.
I have a question for you. Please let me know if, after WWII, there were graphic documentaries about the Holocust shown in communities. I remember that while I was in high school, as part of our curriculum, we were shown a French documentary covering the Holocaust. We were required to get parental permission.
Hi! What I have to say is not related to this topic. But when I was about a year old, my father left. Years later, I found out that his mother last name was Gurrola, and I'd Google it and show that it is an ancient Hebrew profession name, like blacksmith, for example. But I don't know which tribe Google didn't go further.
Not at all. Most people and countries call the country Israel. Even those who call the land Palestine don’t agree what the term means and what its borders are or should be.
dude seems to be for the most part objective and based. though most jewish achivements simply fall into western-european exceptionalism. specialy given that many great inventors and the like who where jewish just happened to be jewish, just like great christian thinkers and inventors were so because of their education and western upbringing and influence, rather than believing that Jesus was son and manifestation of the abrahamic god. and way too many children and decendants of jews have and still are being grouped with the actual religious group.
@2:45 -- _"At no time in its history was the land of Israel completely devoid of a Jewish population."_ _"It has always been a multi-ethnic population, and never have the Jews had complete control over the entire territory of the land of Israel, with lots of other ethnic groups living within it..."_ There's so much great information here. @6:28 -- _"If the Jews don't confirm Christianity, the Christians will always be with a little bit of nagging doubt... maybe we shouldn't have jumped ship." It's insane to think that all these centuries of conflict could have arisen from a single man's paranoid fear that his entire religious world view could be dependent on the SECULAR HUMAN OPINION of some people who happen to follow an old-timey predecessor of that religion.
Great information, but he’s really glossing over the part where Jews assimilated into communities that converted to Christianity or Islam. In other words, Palestinians are descendants from the same ancestors. Zionism is the idea that an exiled people have a right to return to an area they left two thousand years ago and then take the land of their own people. Pretty wild irony.
Irony. hiding behind one myth after one
I kind of agree. They’re probably the most narcissistic of all religions on earth. This is coming from an agnostic person. They are interesting to learn about.
@@Kyle906-Q8 As far as I can tell, they are the first documented racist,
who claim their race is better because it was chosen by God.
@@Kyle906-Q8 how about Christians - the ONLY ones going to heaven no matter how they act.
Moslems, who make all infidels 2nd class citizens in their countries and charge them protection tax.
Religions in general are quite narcissistic when they insist they're the best.
I'm okay with him admiring the tenacity and the long continuous history of the/his people and is indeed a testament that a minority could last that long. however, i personally prize humility over pride and any people that hold a strong belief in being the "chosen one" risk falling into the trap of arrogance and forging enmity with the "lesser outsiders".
homogenous societies can develop a very strong bond within, but if Homo Sapiens is to survive millenia, we cannot keep harping on about tribal superiorities.
The Asian restaurant part 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Heh heh heh
Didn't you ever hear about Kosher-Chinese food? Yeah! Every Christmas/Hanukah
I thought I heard wrong. Is there another possibility or explanation? Perhaps not mixing milk & meat? Perhaps a lot of veg which is generally kosher?
I haven't even watched the video but I was wondering what he was going to say about Jews and their national dish (Chinese food). Those jokes are still funny even after a few years of hearing them.
@@Galuppi728Asian restaurant is actually Chinese restaurant. The Chinese indeed don’t cook dairy products with meat. Also, Chinese only use diary products for desert type food, not main dish.
Love Dr. Abramson and his channel is really really insanely great from multiple perspectives especially for educational purposes and would totally recommend to anyone looking for insights in Jewish History. Really great to see him on JLI! "Within walking distance of a synagogue of a ritual bath and of an Asian restaurant" that would be classic Dr. Abramson!
This isn't the crossover we deserve. It's the crossover we need!
Thanks for the kind words! Glad someone caught that.
@@MrYishaiShields Jews, in the USA, will never live far away from at least once Chinese restaurant.
I love Henry, one of my favourite UA-camrs and as someone interested in Jewish culture and history, I always like to hear what he has to say first. A very respectable gentleman.
Hey thanks! I'm not quite as nice IRL, though. I sometimes talk in Shul.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD: Shocking!! 🤣😁
Tgtg
The human being wrote the prophecies of the Bible but is not the author.
DISPERSION: (Deutoronomy 64)
"And the Lord will scatter you among all the peoples, from one end of the earth to the other end"(NO OTHER PEOPLE OF THE WORLD HAS BEEN DISPERSED LIKE ISRAEL)
PRESERVATION (Isaiah 66)
"For as the new heavens and the new earth that I make will remain before me, says the Lord, so your offspring and your name will remain."
ISRAEL WILL BE A NATION AGAIN: (Ezekiel 36)
"And I will take you from the nations, and gather you from all lands, and bring you to your country."
(prophecy fullfilled after WW2)
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@@Juan-lf6qo fascinating!
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You’re funny, Janice 🤣
Yehudi Menuhin once commented that there are a lot of Jewish violinists, but fewer pianists because when you have to flee it's easier to take a violin to your next destination.
Haha no it's because of Jewish traditional music.
Stringed instruments similar to violins exist in other societies from Africa to China. They are used in the traditional music of all these societies. Not just Jewish society.
I suspect his tongue was firmly in his cheek.
@@helenamcginty4920 People would be shocked but Palestinians are actually closer to biblical Jews than Jews that now run Israel and who came from Europe.
@@helenamcginty4920 ? Well nobody said they were. What I mean is pianos were not a thing Jewish peasants had access to.. and this is where we get Ashkenazi Jewish traditional music from . Violins were popular for about 250 years as the main instrument. If you have this as your main instrument you will get somebody who's good at playing it and they can transition to other forms of music.. but if you'd have pianos you are less likely to get into playing them. Jews were known for fiddle and violin playing in the 19 century in many countries. Hence some very skilled Jews became famous. It's not unusual
No Muslim ever hates a Jew for following their religion. We stand with you for your religion but the state of Israel has committed many crimes as an official state and that’s what we stand against
Self-defense is not a crime. What do you expect from Jews? Not to protect themselves from unending Islamic Arab aggressions, terror and wars?
@@Salamwamat Islam saved Jews from persecution countless times in the Middle East and Spain. This time Jews were the aggressors in early 1900s and backstabbed us.
@@Salamwamat to the point they started the first ever terror bombing with the king David hotel bombing in Jerusalem.
Thank you. I don't think you can speak for all Muslims any more than I can speak for all Jews. Israel and the potential for Israel existing with or without atrocities was a problem for the Arab Muslim community even when it was still under the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman authority over the area wanted to welcome European Jews to live anywhere in the Ottoman Empire except we're Israel is today. They felt the drive and power in Zionism in the face of the Christian violence against us throughout Eastern Europe and they didn't like it. They first saw us as Russian emigrant-refugees which was threatening to another level. By WWII the British controlled things and they were divided in what should happen but their Empire always also crumbling by the end of WWII.
Ruling over other people seems to be always a horrible thing. Throughout history it has never been or rarely a good outcome for people.
Genetically and religiously we're cousins.
@@honeybeechanger I appreciate your answer. I can assure you that I speak on behalf of Islam and the Quran when I tell you that the people of the book are inherently friends of Islam. We are deeply connected and we are not allowed to simply hate others. We are commanded to fight where we were fought and regain our homes when they are stolen. For that is a right.
“Allāh does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allāh loves those who act justly.”
- Quran: Al-mumtahana verse 8
The Palestinians have been genetically proven to descend from Jews who converted to Christianity and Islam. They just never left the land. They are not 'recent Arab migrants' and are genetically almost indistinguishable from Mezrahis. They are Levantines who speak Arabic. Before the Levantines, the Natufians lived in that region for thousands of years. The fact that our Jewish identity is now based on invalidating the identity of the Palestinians is really awful and sad to me, and did not exist before the Zionist movement. I refuse to define Judaism as a race when science shows it is not a unique race. It is a religion. And one third of modern Israelis are atheists! While the Christians and Muslim descendants of ancient Israelites who are today believing in God, the Tanakh, the Torah, are being expelled and massacred to make way for atheists! What a far cry from the ancient kingdom of Israel. May God help us to stop this madness.
Brilliantly put! Its shows how much things are geopolitics than 'Jews'. Making Jews sometimes religious and sometimes racial make a wide way for abuse for geopolitical ends.
The best solution is make the whole area independent and free for all. Call it Israel or Palestine or Mars whatever, doesn't matter, as long it is free for all with absolute equal rights. Give Jews special treatment some of the times, the Christians some other times, Muslims some other times, heck even secularist other times too.
If Jews want a peaceful, secure existence, it should be in the US, the UK or Germany since they love Jews exclusively. That none would like to lose a small part of their country for a Jewish ethnostate will make them realise why the Palestinians also do not. Btw, Israel is only 15% in size of Florida, so should be a no brainer to the US to create a Jews exclusive region, fully secured by US military with no hostile neighbours, and getting all the benefits of a industrious bunch!
But then, exactly, no. Why? Because it is all geopolitics. Imperialism. The world has been fooled. The Bible and Jews are just very convenient and effective rams. After all, like Prof Abrahamson said, Jews never left the area fully, so the idea that Jews lost their ancestral land and making a grand return is a total lie. They could have returned peacefully. Many actually did and were accepted by the Palestinians but then went on stealing their hosts' home, through violence. Nobody would accept that. Or should.
@@johnwebber750 ?? When did the returning Jews "keep stealing homes"? Just the mere fact that you say this proves that there needs to be a country that states Jews will not be persecuted or dispelled (and no, stating that doesn't make ean 'ethnostate'. Evidence, multi-faith, multi-ethnic modern Israel). And you mention Germany??? Germany was a liberal modern multicultural nation when it was captured by ideology.
Don't get taken in by a false narrative yourself. The only time "stealing land" is kinda true (if you squint and turn your head to the side) is following the 1st Arab-Israeli war when 700k Arabs were displaced. But how many were land owners is unknown. How many had arrived as migrant workers is unknown.
This also was an era of displacement as modern countries were drawn. Look at Silesia. Look at Czechoslovakia. Why is THIS one jumping out at you?
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THE ZIONIST FASCISTS AGENDA OF TRYING TO ERASE THE TRUE LEVANTINE ORIGINS OF PELESET PALESTINIANS.
Listening again to Dr Abramson after some time, I recall my initial impression of him as infectiously inspirational with his scholarship but also his humanity. I SALUTE HIM.
I am so glad I watched this incredible truthful informative history of the Jews The Dr Abramson is a distinguished gentleman
Much appreciated
The Judeans are Black ppl according to The Pictorial History of Israel which takes its depiction of the Israelites off the walls of Egypt.
as they say its time Israel put out the trash!
Really enjoyed this. Thank you. First time I've heard Dr Abramson and will be listening again, and again. Am quite pleased at how much of this history I already know - at age 81 it's good to realise one has learnt something!
I heard that the protection of Jews by the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages had a more sinister motive. The policy was that they should be allowed to survive, but not thrive; and the purpose was that their visibly outcast and often miserable status would serve as an object lesson on the consequences of rejecting Christ.
Those were the early beginnings of antisemitism.
Yes.
The Catholic church blamed the Jews for being complicit in the crucifixion of Christ. Thus the start antisemitism in Europe.
@@tudormiller887.
What were the later beginnings of anti-semitism?
The Israelis (Who control Food import, power and water to Gaza) suggested the Gazan should be kept just above starving when it came to food supplies. "To survive and not to thrive!"
This is why I really appreciate as a non Jew, Dr. Abramson's perspectives and his lectures and learning about Jewish history from him. He is one of my top favorites.
This is a masterclass of a man sharing knowledge. Not propaganda. The backdrop being this horrific war in the holy land. I say this because, here is a man, discussing real, factual information. Rather than a man screaming for the blood of others, screaming victimhood, screaming in defense of terrorism.
Thanks you for your excellent explanation 😃😌...
Big difference between being “ Jewish “ and being an “ Israelite .”
Huge difference.
And most Jews are Israelites. So there's that.
@@jamesr8584 , wrong .
DNA studies prove most major Jewish groups, Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Mizrahi originate from the Levant.
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DNA studies prove me right.
This guy is a real scholar. We've had many of them brought up in the algorithm over the last year. Isn't it a shame that it takes a catastrophe before such knowledge can be made readily available to the masses.
This gentleman is fascinating. Extremely interesting.
I have to show your comment to my wife
The Church didn't break away from the Mother religion. Judaism developed alongside the Christian church after the Temple was destroyed. The Judaism practiced today isn't what Jesus practiced.
When I taught World Religion in college I argued that Christianity was older than Judiaism. The "cultus" made the difference. The Mishna and Talmud are canon of Pharisic thought.
Claiming Jesus wasn’t Jewish is def a new one
@@xIQ188x See Wikipedia under 'Bar Kokhba Revolt". From 135AD Christians and Jews saw themselves as distinct peoples. Jesus was Jewish, but was hostle towards the belief in an Oral Law (Mishna).
@@xIQ188x That isn't what they said. "The Judaism practiced today isn't what Jesus practiced" is not that neither are Jewish, but rather that religion changes over time due to a multitude of factors. Modern Christianity is very different from what it was 500 or 1000 years ago, even in the same places. Change happens, all the time. The point is you shouldn't blindly assume that what something is today is the same as what it was 2000 years ago.
Just a quick example, originally Judaism didn't have rabbis, that was something that developed over time.
@@Lowlandlord okay, but that isn’t what he said. He said Christianity did not break away from the Judaism, which is blatantly false. It’s not even clear what sort of point he was trying make. Yes, religions change over time. That doesn’t negate the fact that Christianity is a direct offshoot of Judaism.
Crusaders who entered into Jerusalem in 1099 slaughtered both Jews and Muslims. There is a record of a pogrom against Jews in Safed in 1517. There's always been Jews in their homeland, there's never been a time there wasn't.
@draoi99 get your history right kiddo. First, the muslims came and chopped the heads of Christians and Jews then built al aqsa, which is still the most disrespectful grotesque disgusting slap in the face to all Judeo-Christians around the world.
Exactly, and that’s what Israhelli propaganda is hiding from their st*pid supporters
The crusaders got it off to a bang with the murder of the Jews in Worms, Germany while enroute to the Crusades.
Before Abraham came as an illegal immigrant there weren’t any Jews just the forefathers of the Palestinians, they have always been there and still are. Get your facts straight 😂
@@allaboutperspective650So... the so-called "Palestinians" are Grecian in origin?
Like, did you think about what you were going to say before you said it? Have you even studied _any_ History, Anthropology, and Genetics? SMH
No, the current Palestinians are a bunch of Arabs, completely unconnected from the Philistines.
He seems very sincere, but even he would admit that much of the historical record is based on the writings of who was in power at the time, and in the case of the Hebrews, based on the accurate transmission of the Oral tradition. So it is inherently inaccurate and must not be relied upon to be entirely factual. Religion based on the Bible or Koran is likewise encumbered with this uncertainty and is therefore largely based on faith.
The Jews always had historians who kept history records. You really don’t need the Bible to know their history. History and archeological findings confirms there life.
@@tamaramousley8597 Nope.
@@tamaramousley8597. The Jews always had historians! You kidding your self.
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“Their”
Absolutely interesting and informative. Enjoyed every minute
Thank you!
Easily the most balanced and rational among Jewish voices that I've heard on YT in the recent weeks. However, this historian is completely silent on current events, and that's surely a deliberate choice, and a sad shame. The world needs some more honest commentators, and more consequential thinkers opining on the current conflict.
But I think we can extrapolate. Anyway it doesn't matter, he provides a good foundation, he doesn't have to spoon feed us all the way.
In fact he doesn't mention the miracle of modern Israel at all. I think he wanted to just be an objective historian and he did a great job.
That was lovely- that unacademic bit at the end. " reading encyclopedia judaica makes me want to run to shul and daven" I'm convinced!
Actually, I usually do run to Shul after reading EJ.
as always, refreshingly clear substantive and edifying. thanks!
Dr. Abramson answered all tough questions very wisely in a composed, compromising manner including Jewish-Christian relations. I am a Hindu from India living in the USA. I have always been amazed at how the Jews built a prosperous nation in Israel out of a largely barren land given to them in 1948. Israel has helped India in many ways, sharing advanced defense technology, agricultural tech for farmers. Majority of the 1 billion Hindus in India support the Jews and Israel strongly. Long live Israel and India/Bharat - two ancient civilizations.
I would argue that the Jews also helped to build much of the modern USA. New York is only as great as it is because of the Jews, and their contributions particularly in the sciences and business have been monumental.
Thanks for the kind words!
It was in the barren land.
Do your homework .
Palestine was never a barren land. The Negev desert can be said to be barren land but the rest of Palestine was very fertile and had a large population. In 1948 European Jews managed to get 80% of the land and drive 80% of the Arabs into 20% of the land. There was not much development in Palestine until the fall of the Soviet union in 1990. Then in the 1990s highly educated 'Russian Jews" moved to Israel to escape the bad economic conditions in Russia. They made the Israeli economy grow by leaps and bounds. However they were resented by extremist Jews who wanted a more religious Israel. As a result there is a movement of smart people out of Israel. So it appears Israel is on the way down. This process will be accelerated soon as most Americans have enough of Israel.
lsraeI also helped assassinate Indira and Rajiv Gandhi.
lsrael also steadfastly supported Apartheid South Africa which negatively affected Indians in South Africa.
The fist jew I ever came across was when I was seven years old, playing hardball in the street, I was in the outfield, all of a sudden the guys in the infield drop everything and run toward me. I look behind me and there is a kid about our age walking by. I join the chase, not knowing who he was just a little dog following the pack. A block and a half and the kid jumps a fence and his father comes out. I was stuck on the fence and he grabs me and takes me through the house and out the front door. Being a kid who made his own decisions about people I later met this kid and he invited me over to his house. We didn't hit it off but I later understood that he was Jewish. Why do people who never met a Jew hate them?
Nobody hates Jews but people confuse hating Israel as hating judaism
This is question I always ask myself being from other side of the world and belonging to non-abrahmic religion..
Would like to get some authentic information on this topic in the form of a Book of Scholar like the guest of this video Dr Henry Abramson.
It will be great if he himself can answer this message.
In the 1940 ties when I was at a junior boys school in Bulawayo (Rhodesia) at break time 10.30am , I asked friends why two boys were being chased by two or three other boys. The reply was "they are Jews" but I said you are also Jews ? The reply was "Yes but we are good Jews "🙄
My reply is that Jews have the reputation of being MEAN - Look at Shakespears play "The Merchant of Venice ".🥴
It's the rage inducing elitism. Treating others as unclean, as lesser human beings than yourself never goes down well. It doesn't matter what your persuasion, if you act as though you are everyone else's superiour you will be universally hated & rightfully so.
I stumbled upon Dr. Abramson's channel a few months back, it the wake of the horrific Oct 7th attacks on Israel, and it has been an enormous blessing. His passion for the Jewish faith is always apparent, and especially in this interview. I myself am a professing Chrstian, and I am indebted to Dr. Ambramson for all his wisdom and knowledge.....every video I learn something new. Today I learned about this doctrine of witness, something that I was not familiar with at all....but that makes total sense....and now I have to do some more reading on it.
One can see the Oct 7th as a revolt against interment in a concentration camp.
@@tonyfarebrother6404 how do you deal with a population that is led by a group (Hamas) that has as its stated objected your total and absolute destruction? Do you just say...'oh well, if they want murder our people and destroy our nation, there's nothing we can do"? Or do you take steps to proect your nation and its citizens?
@@tonyfarebrother6404 if the people of Gaza were not constantly committing acts of terrorism against Israel and its citizens there would be no need for things like a security fence obviously....Egypt was offered the Gaza strip back during the Camp David peace accords in 1978/79 but they didn't want it because of the extremist elements within the population....they were happy to take the sparsely populated Sinai Penninsula though.....Egypt didn't want the Arab Palestinians, Jordan kicked them out....this situtation is so complex and sadly some like simple grade two level reasoning.
@@englishfrog Israel, wants to exterminate the Palestinians and seize all their land,, that’s is the problem and they treat them like dirt, this is the root cause of the problem , Israel has now moved to fascism . The so called terrorist attacks are used to justify mass killings by Israel. Israel was founded by terrorism. . Every decent human being should be condemning Israel.
Josephus said this: But two tribes in Asia (aka Middle East today) and Europe
were subject to the Romans, while the ten tribes are beyond
the Euphrates till now, and are an immense multitude, and
not to be estimated by numbers. (The Antiquities of the
Jews Book XI 5:2)
I like this format Q n A interview style ( unbelievable history )
Yep I don't believe it since he left out a lot of details and romanticizing yews to stroke his ego
Many people confuse the concepts of Zionism and Semitism. The latter is specific to the people of the Levant, they're all Semites. So, when many erroneously talk about anti-semitism, they're actually referring to all Semites, not just Jews.
What an informative interview! Wow.
Lovely, Thank you for sharing your scholarship and your culture.
I can see parallels between how Christians and Muslims treated Jews during the Middle Ages. Tolerance did not necessarily mean equality.
The history of history itself - no matter what the events, the nuance and weight given will always be dependant on its authors!
Muslims protected the Jews during the middle ages.
"Muslim conquest of Jerusalem" Please watch this video. Muslims believe in Moses and Jesus as prophets. What is holy to Jews and Christians are holy to Muslims. Ottomans also valued Jews, they even forced Jews to move into Istanbul/Constantinople. Beyazid II, said something like "your loss, my gain" When Spain deported Jews, and took them to Ottoman Empire.
Read the Book of Deuteronomy the Blessings and Curses of God to the Israelites.
Deuteronomy 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31.
God put the Israelites out of Canaan Land for their disobedience
God scattered his people to the uttermost parts of the Earth.
That means they didn't go just to Eastern European countries. They went all over the world.
The 1878 Ottoman census of Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts reported the following demographics:
Muslim: 403,795 people, or 85.5% of the population
Christian: 43,659 people, or 9.2% of the population
Jewish: 15,001 people, or 3.2% of the population
Foreign-born Jewish: An estimated 10,000 people, or 2.1% of the population
The total population of the districts was 472,455.
This is the results of 300 ethnic cleansing of the Jews by the Muslims.
Yeah the ottomans settled the Samaritans there around this time too as well as some Circassians and also about this time German Christians began coming as religious settlers
Yup, this is how colonialism and ethnic cleansing looks like, displace the indigenous Jews and replace them with Muslims, Arabs or Turk.
@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 The Samaritan arrived 2000 years before the Ottoman, brought in by the Assyrian from what is now days Iraq.
@@ashercohen5034 Samaritans are native to what is now northern central Israel.. it's their land they always lived there but in the 19th century the ottomans gave them a specific place to reside as a community as prior to that the few remaining were very dispersed. They get to have their sacred mountain thanks to the ottomans. Otherwise they would probably be extinct now.
Wow...that was very educational for me as a Catholic Christian. Great video!
Here's one, that Jericho was an inhabited walled city in the supposed time of the conquest. There are ruins of large thick walls, no doubt, but they're from before 2000 BC and they were destroyed by an earthquake, archaeology has come a long way. If you were living in Canaan and you saw mysterious wall ruins you just might make up a story about them, not having access to written history from the 2000s BC to know what really ruined them and when. It's an interesting story actually, the real one I mean, the walls were quite a wonder apparently, look it up sometime.
Yes but U doute what he s saying ?no no thats not a good thing to do just eat what is served to U no see no hear no question
What a beautiful exposition. Dr. Henry Abramson reminds me of several Jewish academic friends.
Absolutely. Reading Jewish history is what made me love Jews & return to my roots, Jewish ancestry! Or at least, I'm still on the journey, having finally left Christianity in Oct 2022.
Keep it up, go to Chabad they'll support your spiritual journey
@Galuppi Unless you are Jewish through your mother you are not Jewish (obligated to observe Torah) and will need to convert.
I found all of his very, very fascinating. Do you are in the Jewish based religion… Abraham… Going along, thinking that Jesus is the messiah the Jews until you decide that he’s not on the side of the juice I couldn’t be but instead of dropping the whole Bronze Age into Iron Age religion, you stick with it because you believe in the Canaanite war, God, YHWH, and stuff written about him I mean, that’s cool, I guess… Doing a messiah reset… I know you’re still waiting for the Messiah to come. A different guy who probably doesn’t need to be the son of God just the savior of Israel and the third temple and all of that I’d like to hear more about your journey because it someway as it seems like act of faith and knowledge in growing towards the true God, the one God that you were inculcated into believing was the true god of earth, from one of the great original monotheistic religions, Judaism. Until something made you feel a little less than convinced about Jesus being the guy. OK. Again for me. The question is my stick with any of it? If you don’t wanna be in a piece and you wanna believe in one god and you think that YHWH is that one God?
Good for you keep it for yourself..
Yea the palistinians and the isrealis are part of the same family. Who were converted by the risa of Islam. The Black jews are the tribe of Juda. End Anti Africanism .
Study genetics, not Torah.
Yeah, they hate those pesky genomes, don't they? You'd think a "tribal" people with "unbroken ties" to Antiquity would be more enthusiastic, but it's ALWAYS the opposite. Gee, I wonder why? It's almost like the don't want the objective Truth to come out.....almost ;)
But never again, means never again FOR ANYONE!
He's not a Rabbi, but you could argue that this guy is a great communicator and a great story teller. I definitely agree that the history of the Jews in the diaspora and pre 1948 Palestine is fascinating. Like all good Jewish story tellers, Dr Abramson has a great sense of humour, a necessary tool in the armory of survival, for all of us.
As a history and philosophy professor myself, I find the exposition of Dr, Abramson quite reasonable. We are taught that it is not very good when you hear an historian and you agree with most of what he says (or worse, with all that he says), but, hearing him, I couldn't help to think "This can be expanded", "There are other factors", or "This other fact is more complex, but I couldn't abridge it so well as he does". Congratulations for not only a truthful and rational understanding of history, but also a clear and sensible one. I don't know if my judgment would be very flawed or not very flawed, but it is one from a Roman Catholic Goy.
Good. Now I have a source for what I already seemed to know.
This is not a source, it's a man telling a story from his perspective
"A source for what I already seemed to know" is the definition of confirmation bias. When this lines up you should ask how accurate and truthful it actually is?
There was a time when I thought metal was cold to the touch. I found a scientist who explained this. Metal is a great conductor of heat. It will readily cool to the ambient temperature which is generally cool. If you touch it it will transmit that cold to your fingers more effectively than most other materials. He said exactly what I already knew, that metal is cold to the touch. Then I saw some metal that was glowing red and I tried to pick it up.
Don't get me wrong. This guy is not a scientist. He is a story teller.
Thank you once again for sharing your extensive knowledge of the history of the Jewish people. I always enjoy your clarification of the history against the many myths. I used to repeat the myth that Jews were NOT allowed to own land. However, while I was staying in Krakov, Poland, I visited the Jewish Quarter and learned its history. In the 1300s, King Kazimierz III saw that the Orthodox Jews were struggling to observe their religious tenets, while they were living separately in various Christian neighbourhoods of the city of Krakov. He donated land across the Vistula River from his palace to be for Jewish settlement. When the Nazi’s occupied Krakov, there were almost 50,000 Jews living in Kazimierz and there were 5 active Synagogues. Interestingly, in the beginning of the movie, Schindler’s List, you see the long march of Jews carrying suitcases across a bridge, headed for the Ghetto in the industrialised area of Krakov. They were leaving Kazimierz, the Jewish Quarter, and its well built houses, apartment buildings, shops and civic structures. Once emptied, the Nazi military and government moved in and established residence in Kazimierz. I learned this at the museum that now occupies The High Synagogue in the Jewish Quarter of Krakov.
Thank you all for this. Especially those last sentences. Powerful.
Henry and I were friends in Toronto in mid 70s (around our bar mitzvah years).My old friend from Ansonville Ont. seems to be doing fantastic and when this video popped up I read "Dr Henry Abramson" then looked at the thumbnail and knew in a second that is him almost 50 years later.Henry (if you see this) do you remember Michael Risman? or Brian Huber? (we were 14 year old troublemakers when we hung out together but also good Jewish boys). Great video and I am not just an old friend I am now a fan of Dr.Henry (once a card carrying member of Brian Hubers "Elsabobs" secret fraternity).The name came from a line in Queens Bohemian Rhapsody actually and we had no idea what it meant and misheard it.I think there were 4 of us in our club with Lorney Hoffbauer being the 4th.Cheers Dr.A. -Michael Risman.
So engaging and interesting
RELIGION. WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO HUMANITY. 😢
I just love the Jewish people I know. As an Irish American lapsed Catholic I have a deep appreciation of Jewish performers in film, television, and music. I can't imagine America without our Jewish brothers and sisters.
When all is said and done, Jews are just a people who practise a particular religion, Judaism. We all have a history just as long as Jews otherwise I wouldn't be writing this now. We are all human beings.
Love this man
Thanks!
Israel was always a reference to the congregation until 1947.
Dr. Abramson, considering that there has been a significant Jewish presence in the land of Israel up until at least the Muslim conquest, would you subscribe to the idea that Palestinians today are largely descendants of those Jews (and perhaps Samaritans as well) who had given up their Judaism?
Some DNA studies say they are
NO!!! Palestinians are from the Mediterranean Sea Area and not Indigenous to Palestine!!!
@@eugenedavid3932 David Ben-Gurion and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi disagree with you:
_"The fellahin_ [farmers] _are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement. Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged."_ David Ben-Gurion and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, _Eretz Israel in the Past and in the Present,_ Jerusalem, 1918, reprinted 1979 (in Hebrew), p196
Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, a trained ethnologist, reiterated this again later:
_"The great majority of the fellahin do not descend from the Arab conquerors, but before that, from the Jewish fellahin, who were the foundation of this country before its conquest by Islam."_ Yitzhak Ben Zvi, _Our Population in the Country, The Executive Committee of the Youth Alliance and the JNF,_ 1929
Palestinians have a greater claim to being the descendants of the ancient Israelites than modern Jews do.
Exactly that is what happened
@@eugenedavid3932dna results proved otherwise from your claims
Henry, he asked you about the period after the second Temple and you talked about the period after the first Temple....Or did you mean the second Temple? How many temples do you think existed? I count only two thus far.
Dr. Abramson is more than aware that we're currently awaiting the Prophet Elijah to herald the arrival of the 3rd Temple, as it states at the end of the book of Malachi.
@@janishart5128do you mean 4th temple? Or is it hard for you to count to 4? You seem to forget their has already been 3 temples
I can understand you standpoint so much! Your history studies proove and reassure your believe! Thank you again for your Chanel!
Esther Tom Berlin
I would love to hear more about the nature of Jewish migration to Europe. It is obviously much more complex than "Hardian kicked the Jews out" as already alluded to in this video. I have recently heard that many Jewish residents of the Roman Empire migrated to other parts of the Empire long before and well after the 1st century in search of better or just different lives, in the same way someone might move from New Mexico to New York.
Some left but many stayed and farmed the outer lands. 50 percent of Jews in Israel are from the Middle East. The formed the Land of Judaea and Israel. Came back several time after being run out. They built 2 temples that were torn down at different times where the dome of the rock is now.
Later in the eighteen hundreds some left for Europe because of discrimination.
@@tamaramousley8597 the 50% you are talking about are mostly Mizrahim, who’s ancestry often goes way back to Babylon and Persia. I’m more curious about the migrations north. Into Rome proper and then into the balkans etc
@@evelcustom9864 You could read about the Jews of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Jews of the Pale of Settlement.
I love the “is the new Coca Cola as good as the classic” line
As always, superb!
So many people seem to be unaware of the Jewish colonies along the western coast of India. There is evidence of Jews in India since before Christ. During the early 1800s, Claudius Buchanan, a chaplain of the British East India Company, documented studies of the Jews in the southern state of Kerala, and determined that there had been many migrations throughout the centuries, reaching into the B.C. era. He labeled some of them as "black Jews" (not necessarily black, but looked more similar to the native population), and "white Jews" (later migrations, who were still more distinct in their appearance). In addition to that, Kerala also has a large early migration of "Syrian Christians". My hypothesis is, that the Syrian people have no reason to leave their own country en masse, but rather, since the majority of the early Christians were, in fact, Jews, these were also ethnic Jews, who had been settled in Syria (Jews were always dispersed, which is why the apostle Paul traveled widely, to spread the news of the Messiah to the Jews settled far and wide.) In addition to that, since the Jews themselves persecuted their fellow Jews for the "heresy" of accepting Jesus as the Messiah, they were further dispersed. The gentiles were a minority, the Jews the majority, in the early Christian Church. Roman Catholicism is an entirely different religion, but early Christianity was just Judaism, where Jews accepted that the Messiah had come already, and that he was Jesus. Anyway, if you want to trace "the lost tribes", or just the presence of Jews throughout the world, India has been greatly overlooked. Of course I know that there was a migration back when Israel was founded, but their bloodlines are still there.
Many Bnei Menashe live in Israel.
You can't be 'ethnically' Jewish - Judaism is a religion which you can convert to if you wish - Jews are ethnically diverse. You've mistaken the obligation to follow the Torah if your mother is halachically Jewish - you can be born with that obligation, but still follow another religion or none at all. The obligation has nothing to do with ethnicity because your Jewish mother could be African, European, Arab, Asian, etc.
@@edelgyn2699 religion is part of culture, and culture is part of ethnicity.
Judaism is a religion not an ethnicity. It used to actively recruit converts. Even 2000 years ago the majority of Jews were converts who lived outside Israel.
Thank you for an informative podcast
Wow! 💙🤍💙
he just told you israel is a fake state
I would say, in response to the question 'was the ancient church anti semitic', that the very earliest Christians were persecuted by the Roman and Jewish authorities. In that respect, it's fair to say that the Jewish state was, by and large, anti gentile.
Very good explanation thank you
Cheers matey! Really lovely vibe and could listen to you all day ;-0) But there's one highly contentious issue really at the heart of Judaism for me... Asian restaurants?!?!?
I am a history buff especially Jewish history. And when I read and learn it, I realize that the Torah’s predictions are 100% accurate. Looking forward for the final Redemption
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DR. HENERY ABRAMSON REAQLLY KNOWS ALOT ABOUT ISRAEL AND WILL LEARN ALOT, THANK YOU!!
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IMAM ALI 📖 " Muslims and non-Muslims should be treated alike . Muslims are your brothers and non-Muslims are human beings just like you".
( Islamic concept by ALI brother of Holy Prophet Of Islam peace be upon Him 🙏)
Consider THE GREAT PARTNERSHIP by the late great UK Head Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks
I've always been puzzled why the Old Testament really forms part of Christian teaching but Abramson inadvertently makes a suggestion, comparison, no 'nagging doubt' but clearly showing the errors if the old and the truth of the new 'Follow me for I have seen', might be worded as at witness to criminallity, nothing less litteral than that.
all lies.. every .. last... concept
Very interesting!
The Jews have persevered as a people because they are Gods chosen people! I am white, American, female and a Christian, who believes that Jesus is the Messiah, spoken of in the Old Testament. Jesus was a Jew. , I love Him. The Jews are His people, that He originally died for, therefore, I love the Jewish people as well!! God is with Israel.
Wow are you actually Whit?
@@infotruther spell check malfunction....
What type of "Christian" are you?
The mystery & beauty of scripture:
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 8:24
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
John 8:14
Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
We all have sinned this is why God came in the flesh to die for our sins.
Rejecting His forgiveness and payment for sin with ones own free will is receiveing what one's free choice will bring which s eternity apart from His glory which is reserved for those Who love Jesus Christ because He first loved us.
Jesus was a Palestinian Jew
Yes the Jews were there for 1000s of years. But how did they acquire the land in the first place? They had to invade and kill the Canaanites and steal their land. Apparently God promised them that land. So God is guilty of murder and theft as well. I too have a book of deeds and I will judge God on judgement day. 😅
Didn’t answer the actual question regarding dispersion. Kept going back to the same answer “there were always Jews”. What about the rest? Prophecy said they would be scattered to the four corners of the earth. Was it false?
What of historical records of Hebrew cultures being observed by missionaries over the centuries?
Yes, I noticed that too.Hadrian exiled them ALL, and he re-named the place to obliterate any recognition of jewish 'ownership' of the area
@@mikev4621 Thanks, glad someone else was alert while listening.
It helps a lot to keep context of utterances, and actual scripture, in mind when listening to such - during this time that we are in.
The video in this link popped up in my feed immediately after I watched this one. Haven’t watched all of it, but find it interesting that the algorithm brought them up and in succession.
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@@Ntuthu-ZA @mikev4621 Still plenty of Jews living in the Galilee (enough for another revolt in 352), and still there when the Muslims arrived three centuries later. Exiled from Jerusalem for a while, but not all of Israel.
@@Ntuthu-ZA Just watched your link- not bad, but a fair bit of Christian bias
want a history of the exiles youtube search sam Aronow he got 40 or so video on the exile and migration
Why does he not mention the origin of Ashkenazi Jews? Why is some elements of Eurpean Jewish history banned in Isreal?
Like what is ommitted.
I strongly suspect what you're looking for him to repeat is an antisemitic lie.
As an ex-Catholic I'm in awe of R. Abramson's understanding of Catholic theology. Yes, the Church has a lot to answer for and IMO it's only just chiseled at the corners of that responsibility. But I'm here now with K'nessed Israel and I pray for the conversion of the Church, just like I did decades ago praying for the conversion of the Jews. 🤣
If anyone can bridge the gap it's the current pope, a Jesuit, who had a profound understanding of the history of the relationship between Christians and Jews. I can only pray.
Existance of G-d's people is a manifest of Almighty's existance, to be He blessed.
God does not need the assistance of murderers and criminals to prove His existence
@@FelixLaManna Yet He will use a rebellious nation that He has never stopped loving to show His faithfulness to Himself and His mercy. We all need His mercy.
@michaelherriott9767 He sure did up to 70AD. That is long past and that fake colonizer/settler nation that is here today has no more prophetic or Scriptural relevance than a Mcdonalds Restaurant on the corner of a street
@michaelherriott9767 God stopped dealing with them as a nation quite a while ago now (like 70AD). Didnt you get the memo? Have you actually read the book of Hebrews?
What was the 1st Major Religion? It wasn't Judaism. It wasn't the final relgion.
Very good information.
The majority of Muslim Palestinians descend from local inhabitants mainly Christians and Jews who had converted to Islam after the Islamic conquest in the 7th century A.D.
As well as most Christians of the Babylon/Iraq area.
During the Muslim conquests of the 7/8th century, most Christians in the conquest lands concerted to Islam .
Except for Spain/Al-Andalus. Where the Muslim rulers were much more tolerant. Christian and Jewish communities also still existed in Babylonia. The Muslim rulers even had religious and philosophical debates with Christian/Jewish leaders (bishops and rabbis), about the theology of each religion!
@@yannick245 Egypt was famously tolerant of other Abrahamic religions for along time, the same time you are talking about. Islam was generally pretty tolerant for most of it's history.
@@Lowlandlord ONLY to "people of the book". So the Abrahamic religions. I actually don't know much of, for example, the centuries long Mamluk (former Caucasian slaves) rule of Egypt.
But I know about the status of the Al-Azhar university for Sunni islam. The problem is that the host nation is basically a military dictatorship.
Of course the Muslim brotherhood is for Sharia rule. But they're much more moderate than the Wahabis/Salafis in Saudi Arabia. Which are the two major international schools of the teachings of Sunni Islam and the world.
Both built a worldwide net of mosques and schools. With the Wahabis having the Saudi financial resources, the Brotherhood is sponsored by Qatar.
Which makes Sunni Islam more and more "franchised", if you want to call it like that. Other schools of Sunni Islam are losing ground or are bound to regions or countries. But they don't play a major role in Da'wa internationally. Sunni Islam is much more diverse than most people in the West think!
But the same is happening with Shia Islam. Where Iran exports it's version in the Middle East (the s.c. "Shia crescent/half moon). Say what you want about Shiism and Iran: They're the only country in the Middle East where there's still a small Jewish/Non-Zionist community! Which has even a reserved seat in the parliament. Even if they don't reach the necessary votes (the community consists of only 10,000 people in Teheran). They're no "hostages of the state". There just never have been violent attacks on the Jews in general or ultimatums to leave for Israel. Like in the Arab nations after the Nakba. Although 290.000 out of the formerly 300.000 did indeed leave. But without having to flee.
Today they can be compared to the small Armenian community in al-Quds's/Jerusalem's old town. Where they have their own literal quarter. Even though there's also a Christian quarter. Which is giving Christians ½ of the old town of al-Quds/Jerusalem! Just a small fun fact.
The Mizrahi Jews survived as a community thanks to the Ottomans granting them refuge. After the Spaniards and Portuguese decided to expel or kill all Jews (which didn't convert to Christianity) of the Iberian peninsula, by the Alhambra Decree.
The first Zionist settlers and later founders of Israel would shake their heads about many of today's Zionists and the radical right government. Using religion as a reason why they have a "God given right" to the lands of Israel. The first settlers and founders were largely socialist (the Kibbutz system) and belonged to the social democratic labor party.
The important thing to them was to have a sovereign Jewish nation state. I still don't know why it had to be in the Holy Land. If you read texts by Ben Gurion, Golda Meir or General or Moshe Dayan, they despised the religious right! I'm German and my family was expelled from North East Prussia (Tilsit, today Sowetsk) by the Soviet Union and the land was just taken. Other parts went to Poland. Why didn't the Jews got East Prussia? It was an exclave with no connection to the rest of Germany already since 1919. With the other lands given to Poland, the distance to Germany would've been even further (today it's a Russian exclave). So the argument that they would be neighbors of their former tormentors wouldn't have been the case and the surving Ashkenazi Jews, thst played the most important role in the foundation of Israel would've lived close to their centuries long homelands.
Many ultraorthodox Jews refuse the legitimateness of the state of Israel. In the US, UK and even in Israel. Since in Judaism, only the Messiah is allowed to bring back the Jews out of their, imposed by God, exile and lead them back into the Holy Land.
I don't think any Jewish rabbi would accept Lord Belfour or the United Nations (responsible for the partition plan) as the biblical Messiah!
In London you have a group of ultraorthodox Jews (Neturei Karta) protesting alongside Palestinians against Israel.
In Israel itself you have the weird situation that there are rabbis and their followers not recognizing the state of Israel, but they and their followers don't work but only study the Tora every day and collect welfare by the state of Israel! Unbelievable!
Well, we have the same here in Germany. With many Muslims, although the prophet saw said to respect your host.
Well, there's a alternative history novel named "The Yiddish Policemen's Union", were the premise is that, contrary to real history, the United States voted to implement the 1940 Slattery Report, which recommended the provision of land in Alaska for the temporary refugee settlement of European Jews who were being persecuted by the Nazis during World War II.
This scenario would've also saved so many lives. From the war of 48 and the Nakba to this very day.
The Zionist would've eventually have their Jewish nation state and sanctuary for every Jew in the world and religious Jews could've still practice their religion and wait for the Messiah to finally "lead them to Eretz Israel/the Holy Land".
And it would be close to the US. Where more Jews are living than in Israel and more in New York than Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. In total safety! In contrast to the 'safe haven for Jews" Israel.
Pardon me for this elaborated answer (I hope it will get through every filter/not deleted)!! I was in a "flow moment" and didn't find a point to stop.
Have a nice weekend, wherever you're from!
@@Lowlandlord That varied considerably with time and place.
This Report its so beautiful thank you Dr . Abraham Im Christin God plessing for Israel for all Jews the World 🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭❤️🙏🙏🙏
I am an immigrant from London who has lived in New Zealand for 37 years and I have met older Maori people who believe they are descendants of the 10 lost tribes of Israel.
It's the romance of the idea...
I met an old white guy in Florida who said the same thing. I told him, You should get an ancestry test and find out
The history of the Jewish people is truly amazing, and there is something special to their religion. That which makes it special, together with the special circumstance that Diasporah Jews found themselves in, of being a minority that held together while scattered across the world, allow to understand how come they survived. There is a lot of light coming from that, but of course there is also a darker side to it, which happens to unite us all as humans. I refer to the fact that so many of us continue to need religion or any other ideology to give them enough sense of a definite place in the world, or even existential security and hopes of some worthwile destiny. Most people thus adhere to irrational belief, and religion is the oldest expression of humans adhering and conforming to established irrationality, which is a perversion of the human mind which prevents us from true progress and commits us to doom. That side of human nature is dooming us and our end seems closer than ever, brought about by ourselves. It is very difficult to fight that, all the more, I suspect, because it's ingrained in our species makeup. It's in our species genetics, so diversely crazy, yet crazy. One can see this even among most of those considered to be smarter or articulate. Half of them at least.
I became a Christian before I turned in 18, since then I have an unquenchable profound love for Israel/Jews. It saddens me so much to find out that since the first few centuries, a huge percentage of Christianity became anti-Semitic, my heart breaks and CANNOT comprehend how could they have been so wrong and became anti-Semitic???? I have so many questions and I wished I had Jew friends that I could ask them questions. There is so much hateful propaganda about Jews that I would love to combat; can anybody recommend any literature debunking those hateful myths? I would appreciate the information. May God bless all the Jews, may God bless Israel and I bless you with all of my heart.
Maybe people should just know some Jewish people. It’s not like they are hiding. They are among you everyday. It doesn’t seem to bother them unless they have a preconceived idea. So if you’ve never known a black person do people hate them. I’d say yes, because that’s how some people are. Jewish people are no different then any other person. They are funny, smart and likable just like others. What’s the deal on this post?
They used to revolt against roman and also not helping with their known attitude against Jesus Christ
Israel is not the same as the Jews, do not conflate the government of Israel with them, it goes against the religion and word of God to force an ethno state in the region that has one group as supremacist over the others, all people are created by God equally.
May the Creator continue to bless you too, sustain you, and support you in all your endeavors. Thank you, friend, for your pure heart. He knows, He hears.
Great interview!
There's always been Jews in their homeland, there's never been a time there wasn't, they just converted to Islam and Christianity as time went on, the Palestinians are the ancient jews, not the europeans who converted to judaism.
Palestinians are Arab to the bone . We are not fooled by this story.
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This is why this nightmare occurring before us now the genocide of the Palestinians by Israel is so shocking to those of us who expect the highest moral standards from the Jews of Israel because they experienced the Nazi genocide horror and of all peoples should know better.
The only genocide being committed is Arab Moslems against Jews and Israelis. Check out how many Moslems live in Israel and how many Jews in Arab countries , compared to pre-1948
In 2005 when Israel ended the occupation there were 1.3 million Palestinians. Today there is over 2 million. So if the Palestinian population almost doubled in less than 20 years, explain how it’s a genocide.
@@stevenr.2534it’s simply a fabricated rallying call by those who have swallowed the victim narrative. Once it sets in it has become a dot point - using the term inflicted on Jews in the 20thC as a way of achieving a twisted moral equivalency for the atrocities Islamic countries are now committing
It's not a genocide, it's a horrible war started by a pogrom by the islamo fascist Hamas. Losing a stupid, horrible war isn't a "genocide".
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The hate being spewed here is just the more reason Israel needs to exist.
The professor makes some excellent points, but his reference to biblical stories undercuts his claim to be a historian. The bible is as reliable a source of history as it is a source of science.
He's a Zionist Propagandist, Dear. You didn't actually take him "seriously", did you? LOL!
I have a question for you. Please let me know if, after WWII, there were graphic documentaries about the Holocust shown in communities. I remember that while I was in high school, as part of our curriculum, we were shown a French documentary covering the Holocaust. We were required to get parental permission.
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Hi! What I have to say is not related to this topic. But when I was about a year old, my father left. Years later, I found out that his mother last name was Gurrola, and I'd Google it and show that it is an ancient Hebrew profession name, like blacksmith, for example. But I don't know which tribe Google didn't go further.
Beautiful conversation except for the harsh tone of voice in the gentleman asking the questions...
Most people call it Palestine.
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Why would we keep the name the evil roman empire called it just to insult Jews?
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Not at all. Most people and countries call the country Israel. Even those who call the land Palestine don’t agree what the term means and what its borders are or should be.
@@jjkatz Golda called herself a Palestinian
dude seems to be for the most part objective and based. though most jewish achivements simply fall into western-european exceptionalism. specialy given that many great inventors and the like who where jewish just happened to be jewish, just like great christian thinkers and inventors were so because of their education and western upbringing and influence, rather than believing that Jesus was son and manifestation of the abrahamic god. and way too many children and decendants of jews have and still are being grouped with the actual religious group.
Who were the Canaanites who lived there 3500 years ago & never left only to convert to other religions later, such as Islam & Christianity?
According to the Bible, they descended from Noah's cursed son Ham.
@2:45 -- _"At no time in its history was the land of Israel completely devoid of a Jewish population."_
_"It has always been a multi-ethnic population, and never have the Jews had complete control over the entire territory of the land of Israel, with lots of other ethnic groups living within it..."_
There's so much great information here.
@6:28 -- _"If the Jews don't confirm Christianity, the Christians will always be with a little bit of nagging doubt... maybe we shouldn't have jumped ship."
It's insane to think that all these centuries of conflict could have arisen from a single man's paranoid fear that his entire religious world view could be dependent on the SECULAR HUMAN OPINION of some people who happen to follow an old-timey predecessor of that religion.
Praise God!!! I love to learn about Israel !!