Joe Rogan RESPONDS To Media, Neil Young Attacks | Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
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- Опубліковано 30 січ 2022
- Krystal and Saagar offer their perspective on the Joe Rogan/Neil Young saga now that the podcaster has responded to claims being made about his show in the media
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Krystal says he doesn't understand medical stuff then outright says Robert Malone is "straight up wrong"
What's wrong with this woman?
I'm sure she took money or has stock in vaccines🤡🤡 every look at her noteworth
She is afraid to be cast away
She is incredibly stupid, that’s what’s wrong with her. Now, Robert Malone very well might be wrong-I don’t know for sure either-but Krystal certainly has no way of knowing. She speaks about him like she’s floating up above him looking down and has magical intuitive powers of scientific discernment.
She tries really hard to remain asleep.
TOTALLY WRONG, Krystal? really? even the doctor YOU brought on agreed with him to a certain degree.
Actually, if you read that guy's paper in its entirety it's even worse. Out of over 6 hours of content he only chose to evaluate like 6 or so claims. And at one point he even went so far as to state that Malone was wrong, but didn't include any detail at all about why Malone was wrong, and then in the same paragraph pivoted to a totally different point so as to lump in one "wrong" point with the other as if two totally separate points are both wrong by association. If I recall correctly, the pivot point was that he claimed that there haven't been studies on the treatments that shall not be named, which anyone can easily search for and look at any one of 114 large scale studies that have been done. That guy they had on BP must have done little to no research on the claims he claimed to be "debunking." It was astounding to read. But Krystal doesn't recognize Malone's credentials as an expert in the field, but somehow finds that other guy's credentials as a glorified "fact checker" as sufficient.
If Krystal feels so strongly about Robert Malone being so wrong about everything, then she should invite him on for a segment, hell do a long form interview, and hold his feet to the fire. You'd be doing your audience a service.
Agreed. My jaw dropped when Krystal said her concern was talking to a scientific expert meant she may get snowed by their potential lies, because they're too well versed to be fact checked in real time etc, ......no, thats why she and others SHOULD talk to them, that would encourage research, future rebuttal ( like only minutes after an interview ) and broaden more people viewpoint on both truth and bullshit. Why on earth would those two men have an agenda? Well, talk to them and we would find out :) We need Joe to keep talking to these people.
Exactly! What does she want? If you have an expert in the field, they're going to use terms you don't understand, but as an interviewer it's your job to make them dumb it down so at least you understand. On the other hand, if you have some nobody on spewing lies about the topic, you're not happy either. Make up your mind Krystal! If you think he's bullshitting, have him on, but don't sit there and beat on him w/out allowing him a say.
I was baffled by this.... What's the difference between the "Scientific Jargin" from the Dr.'s and Scientists on either side of the topic?
Did this b Krystal really say all their achievements and publications aren’t enough ? What the heck would be enough then ?
@@LucklessZombie Classic Krystal gaslighting double speak. Can't remember last time she rebutted anyone with anything of substance. These two are the controlled opposition pretending to be independent .
Funny Krystal, "he cherry picks the data" while it's already been shown that so does our FDA
And almost all if not all of cnns shows including Sanjay Gupta are brought to you by Pfizer! Sanjay would never cherry pick would he Crystal?
The irony is that she's the one who is so very obviously "cherry picking the data" & credentials apparently as well.
The funny part is that his data is based on science, much of it done by him & hers is I guess based on nothing but feelings, as she just admitted that credentials (which are acquired through yrs of professional experience) don't matter to her?? Of course that's a lie. She just "cherry picks" when the credentials matter to her based on whether or not they're saying what she wants to hear.
And she calls the FDA out too.
Exactly... shes just a brainwashed good looking white female millennial. she thinks fucking black guys helps fight racism.
Joe Rogan is a clown 🤡
Krystal - Dr. Malone is wrong. He is just flat out wrong. But I would not interview him because he would prove himself right.
(Facepalm)
I caught that too. Instant contradiction
I use to feel bad when I’d see posts going in on Krystal…..but the more I listen the more I find her insufferable. What an absolutely incredibly telling statement that was.
Krystal was inching to interview Jordan Peterson, so there’s no reason to not interview Dr. Malone if her and Kyle would push back anyway
She says they are wrong. But then can't say what they are wrong about. Because she would end up having to push the bullshit she call the people she is siding with now. She can't interview them because she is biased. And don't want to have her bias destroyed in front of the Breaking point audience. She is becoming what she was worried about at Rising. And she doesn't even realize it..
Bad take. She just couldn’t intellectually account for his responses because she isn’t versed in the science. Difference between a journalist and a podcast.
"cherry picks the data"...says the person that cherry picks her own data
Example?
Medcal jargon
My heart is broken. I am 61 y/o and Neil Young has always been one of my leaders of a world that needs people like him. This is the man who demanded Bush be impeached for the Iraq lies during a time when there were those who wanted to silence Neil, David, Graham and Stephen because these "entertainers" and shouldn't be talking about politics -- AND speaking ill of the President of "OUR" United States. (For the record, I'm Australia but I guess you get the gist of "OUR" in this instant).
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think even Bush himself made a huge effort to prevent CSN&Y from going on stage to highlight the lies Bush and his administration told!
I am gutted because I am now forced to choose -- I have to choose who genuinely believes we must 'Keep On Rockin' In A Free World'?
This hurts so much -- it's Neil Young's choice to be a hypocrite even though I respect his choice to do as he feels, and I empathise because of his personal story. But to demand WE choose between the two???? Why didn't he simply demand his work be removed because he disagrees with Joe Rogan's podcast? Why demand Spotify to make a choice? And in so doing, demand WE make that choice between Spotify or Amazon etc? He is blackmailing his long-time supporters -- his audience. It's him (Rogan) or me (Neil)! This is total bull shit, Mr Young.
I choose Joe Rogan -- because he believes in what Neil used to believe in -- peace and freedom -- including the freedom to hear different ideas. Neil sadly has found himself with a wheel in the ditch
and a wheel on the track. I guess as an Australian it's even geographically correct for me to add -- a southern man don't need him around anymore.
Absolutely right
I hear you, I've been a life long fan of his music and message and he just completely destroyed his own legacy. It's honestly heart breaking.
Aging singers shouldn't be telling others about moral and ethics when themselves never followed thier own own morel/ethical demands they want on others.
Exactly! 💯
@@grammarofficerkrupke4398 Niel Young is an aging musician trying to be still relevent but failing.
Exactly HOW does Krystal know that Dr. Malone is "just wrong"? For someone like her who admittedly isn't versed in the subject, she sure has come to a pretty strong conclusion. I'd love to know the basis of that conclusion. It's especially weird since he's already been proven correct on numerous previous assertions.
Goes against the narrative.
@texanonfire she is holding Breaking Points back
Boom ...spot on right there. Crystal became what she criticises and doesn't realise it. Will she admit when she is wrong as Rogan does?
It looks like denial. It's clearly a true blind spot for her, knowing how closely she juxtaposed those two statements that doom the former's validity. We really are all subject to confirmation bias, and we fear the things that threaten our core beliefs. Hopefully she can grow more and see it later
He’s wrong because if he’s right her Pfizer stock goes down in price
Krystal says Malone is wrong and she doesn’t care about credentials. She’s also admittedly not a scientist and expert in the jargon, but the guy is still wrong, anyway. 😂
Ya I think Malone is showing to be correct over time.
Remember this is the same Krystal that's called a market crash at least 3 times in the last rolling 12.
@@drewskij2175 there will be a crash, rest assured. You should bump your liquidity if you can afford it.
Everything krystal said on the Malone Topic was ignorant and dumb and proves that she is suffering from chronic wine mom syndrome when it comes to covid. 😭
I don't really care much about credentials, either. Plenty of doctors and scientists have been pushing a false narrative throughout the pandemic. The question always has to be whether or not there's data to back up specific claims. And just because Malone challenges a false narrative doesn't mean his own claims are based in science. There isn't evidence to support many of his claims.
“Malone is totally wrong” 5 seconds later “I couldn’t interview him because I don’t know enough and would get snowballed”
Perhaps she should apply the logic from the second one to the first one
Since they started breaking points Krystal has lost her mind
Not what she said, but sure, we can go with the disingenuous approach. She said she doesn't know the medical jargon like doctors do. What do other doctors think? That Malone is a grifter and a fraud.
@@qwery486 knowing the jargon is the most basic knowledge of a field. It’s what people are taught first. If you don’t know the jargon you don’t even know how to talk about something. If you can’t explain it then you don’t understand it. So -1 to you for that point.
To address your other point, there are plenty of doctors that agree with Malone. They’ve just been deplatformed and doctors that agree with the accepted narrative have been propped up. So -1 to you for that extremely vague point as well.
I’d like to engage in good faith but you started off calling me disingenuous so that door got closed before we could even walk through it.
Saagar needs to receive a medal of tolerance. He seems intelligent and needs to listen to Krystal's nonsense like this episode.
Krystal: "I understand nothing in the issue but have a solid opinion and don't want to listen to facts of people who may know."
It’s crazy how threatened the mainstream media is of independent operators
Projection 101.
They want to control the population. They dont want anyone getting in the way
Damn Krystal really dropped the ball on this one thinking she knows more than Dr Robert Malone and didn't even listen to Peter McCullough.
I was completely shocked when she admitted that!! But then again, maybe not so much....
That's cos they talk utter shite
Saagar, when are you going to start calling out Krystal when she says such things as:
"Here are their credentials, they are a doctors, this one has patents, most published or cited . . . that doesn't hold enough weight for me, their credentials aren't enough"
Ok Krystal, you are just as bad as the people trying to discredit Joe Rogan. Your overwhelming bias is obvious and Saagar needs to stop pretending it isn't.
If Krystal doesn't have the knowledge to interview Dr. Malone, then she has no business saying he is "wrong," telling anyone else to get vaccinated, or judging anyone who hasn't. Her decision is hers alone. Share, by all means, but cut the disdain toward those who made a different decision. It's ugly.
Well said
Thank you Rogan for giving a space for discussion with many important doctors and scientists that have been de platform, censored, threatened, demonized. All of you are so brave considering how difficult is nowadays to go against the propaganda. Thank you for all that you are doing. We will follow you if you have to leave Spotify... keep us posted!!!
Krystal is showing the same sort of struggle with Malone and McCullough that she showed during the time when she could no longer ignore the fact that wokism had become toxic and deranged.
Facts!!
Her opinion is hard to swallow. I just don’t understand what makes her more of an authority on the subject to justify a complete dismissal of their views.
She also has spread a lot of disinformation herself like the ‘fine people’ hoax.
And the way she dismisses it as cherry picked data is no different than what the CDC or Fauchi does. She only has a problem because their cherry picking is ok because she agrees with it. That’s the problem with this whole thing. Statistics, studies, and science being weaponized and used as both the sword and the shield. The left and right in this country are both guilty of this. However, someone in the media should be held to a higher standard. That’s what Krystal gets wrong about that….
@@sonsoftexas Exactly. She just aggravates me at this point. But the truth will eventually come out more widely with time and she will have to face it.
Using Krystal’s logic she should have never interviewed Dr. Vinay Prasad because he too possesses the knowledge and experience to potentially manipulate the interviewer. Why would a journalist ever interview anyone if they were concerned with failing to ask someone with greater knowledge of subject matter the right questions?
Krystal: I don't care about the credentials
Also Krystal: Here are Prasad's credentials
I think she was saying that some smart educated people use their education to talk *over* your head, while others use their expertise to break things down in easy to understand language.
Yes didn't really follow her point. It's just hard for them to step over certain lines I guess, a shame. She should watch Jimmy Dore s interview doctors vs fauci or something...pretty easy to follow;)
True. I listen to Dr. Prasad on his platforms and he has voiced many positions directly
counter to Krystal’s closed opinions, namely he opposes vaxx for not at risk kids. He has posted at least 3 videoed addressing myocarditis…he has spoken out about the lack of early out of hospital treatment in front of vaxx. I think he is brilliant, I don’t agree with everything he says, but I learn So much from every one of his videos. I listened to him when he was on BP with Krystal, he was a little more accommodating to her and states a more articulated stance in his own videoed.
Dr. McCullough is blinding brilliant, fascinating. His congressional hearing on the Texas floor was
stunning, the panel of doctors who spokee with him, especially Dr Kori were also brilliant passionate speakers …it would take Krystal about 2 hours to listen to it…I didn’t understand every bit of the
scientific discourse either, but I understood plenty…enough to know we have been wronged to only have one approach and One voice claiming all of science ….and that is exactly what has gone on .
I don’t agree with everything any one of them presents, but I came away with a much wider
perspective to draw from….Krystal has never once referred to any of the other voices as ‘doctors’ , which each of them are…medical expert learned specialists with lifetimes of earned front standing
credentials , titles, and respect. Krystal refers to them as ‘ that guy” or “ I don’t know the other “guy”, but I wouldn’t have him on for an interview” Not a good look Krystal
@@ryanblanks6092 I would LOVE to see Krystal go on Jimmy Dore! He would DESTROY her in a split-second heartbeat! ^_^
Krystal: I don’t know enough about science and medicine.
Also Krystal: everyone should get vaccinated and get their booster.
Her true colors come out more and more each show.
Don’t apologize for anything Joe! We want conversations from both sides! That’s why we love listening to you!
Nothing like Krystal calling an actual doctor wrong with all of her medical degrees
I keep saying this about her... she is no better than then the networks she."mocks". And the fact that she turned off the interview with the guy who helped invent MRNA vaxx's. Shows her true nature. She can't handle the truth
"To me the credentials aren't enough" Um... isn't that the point of having credentials? I bet he knows more on the subject than any of us here.
It's an odd thing for Krystal to say, when those people with the credentials ARE the fact checkers.
But she's on a UA-cam video. Shut up and listen to her
Yeah that part was weird because if their credentials aren't enough then what makes anyone else's enough 🤔 Is it only enough when you like what they say??
Lately I feel like Krystal has been missing the mark. She thinks she's still on MSNBC....
@@ShayneWolfe She's just deep down the establishment narrative rabbit hole, on the shots....
She’s worried about interviewing scientists because she wouldn’t be able to keep up with what they’re saying. Rogan will interview scientists for HOURS and be so well read and researched that he can keep up and even ask very pertinent questions.
The fight against finding a common ground or being in the middle of all these extremes is very alarming. People are dug in on everything. There are too many nuances for all of these complex issues to pick a “side”. Outrage culture is irrational and easily manipulated. I hope that like a temper tantrum throwing 3 year old it burns itself out and takes a long nap. The adults in the house need a break.
That is how your adults in the house run it? Hope the tantrum runs it's course and gives the big kids a rest? Good luck in finding any.
So well put.
The adults will never get a break I fear. Because much of the behavior we’re subjected to began in high school and never ended.
@@mischevious Plus it "works." Look who is rich and how they got there.
I’m a long time lefty & when Joe started being slammed by people I had some respect for, it made me curious to listen to his show. Now I’m a big fan. Take the time to listen and decide for oneself - don’t be a sucker.
This sick left culture has pushed me off that ship....currently swimming in the open ocean looking for a lifeboat
I am left leaning...This Covid BS has permanently pushed me out the Dumocrat party. The Dumocrats have abandoned the "FDR Left" and embraced the Neo-Liberalism of Ronald Reagan.
BTW I am unsubscribing Krystal.
Long time lefty as well. I use to like Joe but he has become more a quack since the vaccines
@@juelzthadon2161 how so?
@@PatheticHero read Listen Liberal by Thomas Frank.
Man Krystal's just been annoying when it comes to this I don't understand why she gets upset when two leading people in that field have different opinions from herself she's not a doctor
She’s bought and paid for. Look at her bank account
@@jessicasawyer8506 Huh? You've seen her personal bank account? What an idiotic comment.
@@squatch545 huh? Her net worth is 44 mil. Public information
@@squatch545 she’s a 1%er ❤️❤️❤️😘😘😘
Maybe she's just cranky cuz her husband doesn't know how to lay pipe correctly
Glad Krystal has had 23 years to do some research to be able to follow along in a scientific conversation, while reporting on it all along, and has not taken the time to do so.But somehow she feels comfortable saying she knows a scientist is completely wrong and cherry picks the data. How are both things possibly true?
It’s hard to find people that are CRITICAL THINKERS with a sense of HUMILITY. Rare.
A critical thinker is someone who takes into consideration all of the variables from a vast spectrum of viewpoints, and weighs their merit and credibility. You are so right that it is rare to find the humility where there are many different facets of an issue in discussion.
Would love to see Krystal tell Dr. Robert Malone that he's "wrong and cherrypicking data" to his face just to see her get intellectually dismembered by a man who knows exactly what he's talking about in real time.
How about you listen to other doctors that have criticized Malone for cherry picking data? But you're not ready for that conversation
@@ish7957 Well Krystal is a journalist so she has the ability to site a few cherry picked points and then argue why they are wrong. That's what they would do with anything else.
She just keeps discrediting him, saying he is wrong but never gets to specifics. 🤔
@@sononi4798 Breaking points have had guest Dr's on to debunk Malone and McCullough claims. There are medical podcasts and YT channels that broke down the McCullough and Malone podcasts are debunked their claims point by point.
We can safely say Malone is wrong🤷🏽♂️
@@ish7957 And there are several doctors and epidemiologists that agree with Malone. You have just decided to put your faith in the establishment pharma shilling "experts".
@@ish7957 meanwhile those same doctors cherry pick their data and cherry pick Malone’s points. I don’t agree with Malone on everything either but to paint him as being anti-vaccine is just a complete lie.
Blurting out the Dr. Malone is flat wrong without sourcing is pretty egregious Krystal. I would venture to guess that he is smarter and far more knowledgeable on the subject than you.
💯 that's how she has been this whole pandemic on BP.
there is an episode where they go into detail about that, not too long ago
didn't they do a whole episode when they went point-by-point over the issues? I am pretty sure they did which is why she can say it that way. However - anyone can find data proving any point when it comes to Covid and the vaccine so it doesnt really matter who they think is "right".
I concur. She partially admitted to being unable to follow those doctors due to her not understanding the terminology associated with it. My biggest critique of her statement would be to blow off the value of credituals. Those are important and add much value to the statements of doctors who dispute or question the covid narrative.
Thank you for the report.
8:51 - Saagar being an all too relatable fellow JRE fan! The conversations about alternate history, the Atlantis and psychedelics in religion/ancient times is what actually got me hooked to JRE in the first place.
Krystal is vote blue no matter who in the end.
That level of thinking is just terrible hopefully she wakes up
Doubtful
And you and Saagar are Rogan cultist who believe every bs thing he says
The truth has nothing to do with colors unfortunately, but it's a good way to get people to conform and divide one another.
@@vinnym5607 really? What does he say? And if he was wrong find where he hasn't come back and owned it.
Krystal is anti capitalism to the point of almost being communist. Unfortunately if communist take control Krystal would complaint about the lack of rights period and wonder how it happened. Continuing blaming everyone else but the communist. Love the show, but take break from bashing on capitalism and free enterprise.
Krystal “Their credentials are not enough”
Are you intoxicated?
I've listened to Joe for years... after thinking he was a knob jockey in his fear factor days....
he is an incredible conversationalist and him and Russell brand are two of the most important journalists in the world. Hands down.
Comedians spreading truth!!!!!!! Having conversations and open dialog.. THAT is healthy, THAT is important...
THAT Is what we need right now.
CNN doesnt like that amount of freedom that people have.
@@Crunchykyle yup!! if Joe were talking garbage they would point n laugh..... the fact they want to shut him down SPEAKS VOLUMES.
He has had many-a"mad-man" on his podcast speak of aliens, alternate realities, drugs, cartels and everything in between.. and NOW over THIS... they want him shut up....
Hmmmmmm. Pointing over there. Don't look here.
LMFAO ♡
You guys make THE BEST points on this show! That’s why I love it ❤️
Robert Malone & Peter Mccullough both have said things that are absolutely undeniable. This is why no one wants to challenge them to a debate. If medical jargon is too complex for Krystal, then perhaps she should not be making assessments about these doctors or COVID in general. I suggest Krystal reassesses her personal beliefs and misinformed biases.
Very well said.
Amen! Krystal should not be commenting about science or medicine.
Krystal doesn’t have that integrity
She is a phony , total limousine liberal
She admits she doesn't understand a lot of what guys like Malone might be saying... so how can she possibly know that he is definitely wrong???
Joe Rogan is the reason I am listening to y'all right now. I listened to your whole interview on JRE right after you started Breaking Points. Glad to be here and thankful that Joe Rogan is promoting independent media like this!
Me too! I totally love these two, I don't always agree with them but sooo much better than MSM. I appreciate Rogan and the fact that he seems like such a stand up guy, unlike those other fuckers.
Ditto! I’ve been listening to JRE and I feel like he digs deep by asking intelligent questions. I’ve learned a lot from these conversations. I catch crap from my fellow liberal resistors bc I can’t jump on the JRE hate train.
Me too
Same! I found them on the JRE and got hooked. I love the perspectives shared on this show. This is the kind of journalism our world needs!
Same
Thanks for this segment you two. Totally agree. :)
good points!
Love how Krystal blows off Malone's credentials. Krystal, how do you prefer to make sense of all the questions about the pandemic? Magic 8-Ball or Ouija board?
His credentials are inflated and he falsely claimed he invented the mRNA technology.
OOh can we ask Cleverbot??
@@squatch545 even if 99% of his credentials are made up. that make him still more qualified then most other people out there.
Wrong on both counts but whatevs...
Obviously Mainstream Media they tell the truth /s
Krystal claiming Malone is "completely wrong", excuse me Krystal... aRE YoU A dOCtor!?
She continues to disappoint...
I don’t care about credentials or patents or anything. What is she even talking about hahaha. What does she do then. It has to agree with her or it’s wrong I guess. Saagar did a segment saying his mistakes and bad takes. I can’t imagine krystal ever doing anything like that.
Are you trying to imply she is married to Ben Schapiro?
not just a doctor! a RNA scientist or at least Phd Virologist, to be a doctor ain't enough
I support Rogan. I’ve listened to his podcasts for a while now and he’s very bright, he treats people equally, he’s funny, and most of all he’s HUMAN. He seems like a really great guy and someone you could definitely chill with. 🤙🏾 I fw you Joe! 💯 bye Neil young 🙄👴🏻
Well said!
Krystal has also said in the past that she
"wished Joe didn't have certain people on."
That's the very definition of censorship.
Should he have on corporate liars? Should he have on people who will not change their minds no matter how wrong they are? I think there are certain people who don't deserve to be on such a large platform.
The way Crystal said that doctor McCullough is wrong is laughable. When did she get a doctor's degree.
She's still partially asleep. Her and everyone else will finally wake up in the coming months when the truth comes out.
Bruh when it comes to COVID she’s proestablishment
Amen!!
She's moving deeper into blind ignorance everyday.
I want to watch that rebuttal video you made of the two people Rohan had on his show. Can someone link it?
If I were part of Rogan's show, or otherwise had his ear, I'd suggest he invite *every single one* of the celebs calling for him to be fired from Spotify. Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Prince Harry and Megan Markle - all of them. Most will decline, but 1) they were invited to make their case, and have every reason to accept if they're "in the right" on this issue, and 2) perhaps one or two will accept, go on the show, and actually get to have a conversation with Joe (and likely expose how *little* these people know about what Joe and his guests actually said.)
I think that'd be a slam dunk of a move, and would help him in his defense (even if no detractors ever come on), on a lot of levels.
Additionally, I'm glad Spotify has stood by Rogan, and it's in their best interest to continue to, rather than wilt against "growing opposition" by a small but very vocal minority.
Krystal "Malone is just wrong"
Also Krystal "I can't possibly understand the science."
'I didnt even listen - Hes flat out wrong - to me the credentials arent enough - He has 'some pattents' and 'was involved' with mRNA tech'
Also also Krystal: I can't possibly understand the science, but I know in my heart that my expert is right and your expert is wrong. Now go get more Pfizer injections and pray to our lord and savior Albert Bourla. "
“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will HATE those that speak of it.” - George Orwell
I think Orwell was a time traveler he predicted so much that has come to be true
@@zebrajenks I am so worried about the future.
@@curtisalex456 man up wimp
Egfuckingzactly this
@@HistoryandReviews “man up wimp”?
What’s the point of saying that?
What is your motivation, just to be insulting for the sake of insult alone?
Are you really that miserable that all you can offer is an attempt to make others unhappy as well?
I literally chose to get vaccinated because Dr. Rhonda Patrick actually addressed some of my concerns about the vaccine on a Joe Rogan podcast. A podcast by Lex Fridman backed up my decision, and I found Lex through Joe Rogan. So much for making me vaccine hesitant.
I love how Joe refuses to bite the “division carrot”
"I wouldn't talk to Robert Malone et al because they know too much about the material and I couldn't disregard their opinion if I actually talked to them" -Krystal
'I didn't even listen - He's flat out wrong - to me the credentials aren't enough - He has 'some patents' and 'was involved' with mRNA tech - I don't invite these scientists because I don't understand the jargon.'
After all that I will admit it is also hard to keep listening to the rest of her words...
Krystal “I’m just too dumb to interview these people”
"I didn't even listen to the other guy" 🤔
Fun fact: Blackstone owns a large percentage of recording artists’ music, including Neil Young’s. Also: In 2012, Blackstone entered into a partnership with Pfizer and SFJ Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Wow I had no idea Krystal was a doctor and she can say as a fact that Dr Robert is completely wrong. We should have her on TV to give us all medical advice
And never offers how he's wrong..
Saagar has to start calling Krystal out on her multiple obvious transgressions on COVID science. Much of her COVID "science" is stuff that was talked about and updated months ago.
@@Name-cz5jj yeah I keep wondering why doesn't call her out, but seeing how deep in the punch bowl Krystal is I can imagine he just doesn't want to deal with it especially on the show. I avoid saying a lot to friends and family just to avoid another hyperbolic conversation. Still though wish he would say something.
He agrees with her, I assume.
The credentials aren’t enough for Krystal, so what is, someone’s agenda that you agree with even if it’s wrong……
So they both of you have something in common
'I didn't even listen - Hess flat out wrong - to me the credentials aren't enough - He has 'some patents' and 'was involved' with mRNA tech'
Yeah that was a dumb comment on her part.
She's insufferable when it comes to anything related to the COVID vaccines. I just stopped watching right after she went into her rant.
Thats where I paused the video and was like, who the fk are you to say credentials aren't enough, you're just a journalist not a scientist
Good job
Excellentl!
No Krystal, YOUR WRONG, TOTALLY WRONG! But we appreciate your opinion as well:)
'I didnt even listen - Hes flat out wrong - to me the credentials arent enough - He has 'some pattents' and 'was involved' with mRNA tech'
His full video was honestly a master class in how to address a 'controversy'. I have legitimately never seen anyone, media figure, politician, or otherwise, address something with such a perfect balance of a logical, fact-based defense, with a disarming level of humility and grace.
There are a ton of people out there who probably weren't very familiar with Rogan prior to people like Joy Behar talking about him. But if any of them took the time to watch that video, you couldn't help but come away thinking this is a more than reasonable person acting in good faith. He's clearly not the monster MSM makes him out to be, and it's a good example of exactly why he has the most popular podcast in the world.
People have really been doing him dirty, mostly in attempts to profit from his name; his was response was graceful and not over-stated.
CBC News chopped it up so they could get "I'm sorry" and "I'll need to research better" for their hostile news segment. The mainstream news is so adept at manufacturing consent they can take the most thoughtful response possible and spin it to fit the frame of their narrative. Anyone watching that CBC clip alone would think he basically admitted to being a source of misinformation and apologized and promised to do better.
@@Xanlet Wow, so horrible to watch other developed nations shape their media into carbon copies of the US propaganda system we have.
@@SteveZ1 what is the specific thing he said that got Neil young upset and where on cnn could I see that
@@SteveZ1 What specifically did he object to? Because I never saw that in any of the reporting from last week. I actually had been wanting more clarity from Neil.
Krystal: Those doctors (Malone et al) are wrong!
Also Krystal (a breath or two later): I have no idea what I'm talking about because I'm not educated in that field.
Haha Krystal just acknowledged that she doesn’t spend time listening to “those” people but then has opinions against them.
I've really lost a lot of trust in Krystal, I really want people to explore all sides. It's really disappointing, I've just begun slowly not watching stuff.
Same.
Krystal's response is basically "I'm ignorant so I wouldn't talk to them." Just because you can't figure it out Krystal doesn't mean that none of us should hear it.
? She says she wouldn't interview them. She at no point says that none of you should hear it.
Idk what the heck is wrong with her, when it comes to Covid she’s all in with the narrative
Love how she also says she is too fragile to respond maturely to her haters like Rogan did. Basically - “I am aware I am a 🤡 but I don’t want to do anything about it”
@Fauxindigo she's really good on what she knows, but when she strays from that she comes off as an ignorant know-it-all.
@@smartpig2386 Smart people can have cognitive dissonance too
I find it silly how a UA-cam news anchor says that a highly decorated doctor and vaccine expert is completely wrong in his field of expertise. Probably would be beneficial to consider his words and look into them.
If the credentials Joe listed about his two guests don’t hold any weight with Krystal, what would/does ??
The Malone and MacCoullough interviews were so informative. Their credentials are over the top. Krystal is wrong not to respect those doctor's extensive work and credentials.
Krystal "that guy cherry picks data", Also Krystal "I didn't watch those interviews" XD
To be fair. Krystal said she didn't watch the one. She watched the Malone one. Better her be honest than bsing.
hitting the nail on the head, you both are awesome
joe is how i found you guys. My most trusted news super duo!!
Note how Krystal admits to "scientific ignorance" while stating she won't interview Dr. Malone because she's afraid of being "snowed."
Maybe you need to listen a little more closely. It's because of the medical jargon nobody understands. Most others with their medical degrees think Malone is a grifter and a fraud - thus "medical consensus".
@@qwery486 Hey John, I got two engineering degrees and know how to listen to experts. I have learned to listen to BOTH sides to a problem or issue not just the consensus. Remember that a camel is a horse designed by a committee.
@@davidlewis2668 John just wants to date Krystal.
Yea it’s wild when it comes to Covid she’s pro establishment
Krystal Ball is unfortunately the Ryan Grimm of Breaking Points.
She'll vote for Kamala Harris, definitely
Saagar Enjeti is unfortunately the Emily Jashinsky of Breaking Points.
Oh Please... Emily doesn't have a shred of charisma in her body
Do not let this turn against each other. Although I may not agree with Krystal on this one point, I agree with her on 99% of everything else.
Profound !
Just curious as to what specific items Dr Malone was wrong about? Maybe a segment on that.
Krystal’s time with MSNBC is really showing in this segment.
Scientific credentials are not "relevant" for her. Not surprised.
I still remember her as a liberal, how does someone change their beliefs as an adult?
A-HA-HA-HA!!! UDAMF!! like it many much
Wow... Krystal's viewpoint that "I didn't bother listening to the other side of the issue because I might be convinced by their argument.." is a pretty wild thing to say out loud with a straight face.
Krystal is so wrong so often... But moraly right, I guess... She's cherry picking by herself, always. But thats a typical bias for both sides called confirmation bias..
She is a joke on thus topic!
Ricki Lee Jones wrote ‘Chucky’s In Love’ not Joni Mitchell hahaha 🤣
So let me get this straight. A cardiologist and an infection disease expert on mRNA technology express their views on his show and Neil Young (a high school drop- out) and Joni Mitchell (an art school drop-out) don't like what they hear, so it's misinformation. So, some software guys on Spotify are going to put a warning label on his interviews. I'm sorry, I think I will listen to experts on health issues instead of a couple of washed-out, drug-addled hippies from the sixties. Heck Joni Mitchell started smoking cigarettes when she was nine. How healthy is that?
Epic comment!
Dr Malone isn't just involved with mRNA technology. He invented it. His name is on the patents. Krystal not giving any weight to his accomplishments is showing a huge bias.
Amen to that. wtf
Nope, that is absolutely not true, as you see no records of his patent. He was an early pioneer of mRNA as a vaccine but made only 1 publication on that. Also, according to Nature, he wasn't the first person to consider mRNA as a vaccine candidate, and the vaccine development was a large research collaborative effort such as Melton and Krieg. Please pay attention to actual scientific sources instead of Malone.
Funny that Malone talks about how no one gives him credit for his work when he ignores other researchers' contributions
@@hansonlee5847 The vaccine (as we know it) would not exist without him. However, he is only a small part of the equation. It’s a nuanced discussion but unfortunately it’s viewed in a tribal lens.
Robert Malone didnt invent mRNA. He was part of a team of 8 who wrote two papers on it's potential in 1989/90. However the technology itself took 30 years to be realized. The major break through for its use came in early 2000s when the University of Pennsylvania’s Drew Weissman and Katalin Karikó uncovered a way to keep the immune system from attacking injected mRNA. Karikó is now a senior Vice President at BioNtech, the maker of the Pfizer vaccine. Malone was not around for this break through and left over a decade earlier. As a result virtually everything he said about the mRNA vaccine is dated, out of context or flatly wrong.
Of the 7,700 immunologists registered by the American Association of Immunologists in 2021, he’s the only one who’s name u know, because he’s the only one that disputes the scientific consensus. Being at the absolute fringe has paid off for Malone. He's been on Steve Bannon's podcast, on Fox News, on Joe Rogan, on InfoWars and Senator Ron Johnson invited him to speak at a Senate hearing. In this partisan political age people don't care about the facts, just their side. I feel JR was used by Malone here for his own clout and profit. Joe needs to be more weary - charlatans, shysters, conmen, frauds - they're existed in history forever, this is not new.
She talks against Joe Rogan censorship but wouldn't give platform or talk to Dr. Malone because she doesn't believe his credentials.... Krystal is truly amazing.
The guy is insane despite his credentials. He's jealous that the work he did isn't recognized enough.
I think the word you're looking for is hypocritical... lol
She is the the best at having terrible takes. She doesn't like people who know what they are talking about cause the might confuse her.
@@turdferguson3400 thanks for your non-expert opinion
@@annoyedturian1012 you're welcome!
Swap Krystal with Kim Iversen and I'd watch regularly.
Spot on you two!
Saagar is right, it's about power. Big media feels threatened by Rogan and other pod casters. Also if it get's people to tune into big media then they will run with it no matter what it is.
i think you and saagar are right but, Joe is in an international sense very very powerful and should listen to uncle ben, if you catch my drift.
Fwiw as much as some (not you) try to “both sides” this thing, there are exactly zero right wingers on fox calling for rogan censorship Or really any censorship.
I know it’s popular to say they’re two sides of the same coin, but we should also point out when one of them does something right.
Nailed it.
true
its also about clicks on their product. Rogan gets clicks.
Krystal: "I had a doctor on the show, Rogan had a doctor on his show. Our doc was right and the doctor with another opinion is wrong". HYPOCRATE!
I like her. She's my model of how NOT to think in life.
Not exactly how it works.
There was 7,700 immunologists registered with the American Association of Immunologists last year. 7,699 agree with the scientific and medical consensus. Robert Malone does not.
There are over 100,000 registered immunologists globally, Robert Malone is again, very much alone on the global consensus with his view.
JR decided to have the absolute fringe view on his show and ignored the other 99.9%
That's his choice, but understand, who Joe has on is a conscious choice to push a certain narrative and viewpoint.
And who else did Joe decide to have on to speak about covid? Flop physician Pierre Kory and not immunologist/nor epidemiologist/nor virologist but biologist Brett Weinstein and cardiologist (not immunologist/nor epidemiologist/nor virologist) Peter McCullough - he's now chose literally the only 4 doctors out of over 1 MILLION registered doctors in America who hold such fringe views.
So when you select this handful, the tiny fraction of fringe conspiracy theorists for your platform and ignore the huge global consensus, well we end up with this warped perspective.
@@AZ2PM KAREN did you say something? I couldn't hear you over all that whinning you was doing! Did you say that JR is correct in providing all points of veiws??? Cause that's what I got out of your census report on page 156!!! Damn u can type!!!
Hear! Hear!
I love how the guy who said “I don’t want fa**ots touching my food” is the good guy. lol
It’s amazing how Krystal is maintaining her supreme confidence that her so-called “fact checkers” are actually right when they “de-bunk” people she doesn’t agree with. Sagaar went to great lengths to admit what he had gotten wrong last year, did I miss it or did Krystal not do the same?
I haven’t seen it 🤔
She's always been a smug hack, now you are just seeing it.
you can take krystal out of the msnbc, but you can't take the msnbc out of krystal
Krystal is the same person who was a RussiaGate person in 2017
Yeah I’ve pretty much moved to this show to only watch Saagar’s segments.
Neil Young and Joni Mitchell have gone from being inspirational voices of the 60's counter culture movement to being agents of cancel culture. So ironic.
The left needs to weed out these authoritarian types.
@@rh81454 They aren't part of the left. The actual left is getting censored, suppressed, and deplatformed too. Most understand how their situation relates to Rogan's.
@@nitrologly ah yes and no. But you people need to learn to take a joke about race, lgbt, etc. CRT being actually bad. You wouldn’t want someone to talk about black crime, right?
Stop smoking crack cocaine again.
Because they NEVER were for free speech. They only wanted THEIR speech and THEIR ideas to be "free"
"Well I hope Neil Young will remember, A southern man don't need him around anyhow'. - Lynyrd Skynyrd
“This is bananas” would be an understatement!
This is apples, pears, oranges and BANANAS!!!
It’s more shocking that people who were active in the culture of the 60’s are trying to shut down speech ☹️
It’s because they grew up to become snobs 🤣
Underrated comment
They never wanted free speech. They wanted THEIR speech to be "free". When they got power, they suddenly DONT like all speech to be free. See how that works?
Speech is only ok when I agree with it.
Ya right? Joni Mitchell and Noel Young both seem they’re just blindly leading a cause against “misinformation” that no one wants to define. They just say “people are dying because of bad information” leaving no room for discussion. This will not age well
Take heed folks. For all she claims to like independent voices and platforms, she is entirely dismissive of those with whom she disagrees.
You can tell she doesn't even listen when she hears an opposing opinion.
Yup!
I have the feeling that if she didn't hold such attitudes UA-cam would punish the show. Not that it's much of a mitigation, but maybe she has that same feeling.
I listen to Joe Rogan regularly and appreciate a conversation happing.
We are all trying to learn the information that is out there
Malone and Peter M. are right... Krystal Ball... hilariously wrong.
It isnt "misinformation" it is "anti narrative".
Peace!
\o/
What did Malone get wrong?
I can't like this video hard enough. Thank you guys for what you do.