does my head in when people call current fighters the best of all times, everyone's records these days is much more protected and didn't need a year off after every fight
Because the sports evolved in some ways then devolved in others. For example the skill of fighters is better and the training is better but the promoters are worse
@@kanecantell5290 what are you about am talking about past compared to present time you don't see fighter getting smashed up like they used to fights can be stopped on a cut now but 30 years ago it was different look at frank Bruno he says his self if it was better refed he wouldn't be like he is so things have got better in some ways
Problem with boxing is us . As fans we slag anyone off who loses one fight . And we still pay to watch people against people who they shouldn’t be in the ring with.
Actually Mayweather did ruin boxing. Maybe inadvertently but still. He sold the idea that being undefeated was the be all and end and if you'd lost a fight, you were considered finished. And people bought into this. Hence why fighters and promoters tend not to take risks and cherry pick to preserve their 0.
Well said. Why I don't watch boxing anymore is for all of these reasons. Everything is a career move to garner the most money. Not just by the boxers but everyone hanging off them.
The addition of multiple sanctioning bodies is the reason Boxing has degraded to almost Pro Wrestling levels of legitimately. The Executives of the crooked sanctioning bodies are then bribed, wined and dined by the corrupt promoters to manipulate the rankings and break rules in that promoters fighters favor. Then you end up with the possibility of having these same crooked promoters representing four different fighters being recognized as a “world champion” all at the same time. Now add the backstage politics to this and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand this. It’s going to take a enormous amount of reform starting with mandatory unification of all champions in all weight classes to establish one true champ per class like in the days of legends such as Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Suger Ray Robinson. The bodies would be downgraded and cease to hold any relevancy all while being regarded in the same manor as minor bodies such as the IBO. This or a plan similar is the only way to begin to restore boxing to the greatness and legitimacy it once held something sadly I have little faith I will live to see in my lifetime.
The problems with professional boxing can be summond like this; 1. To many weight-divisions. 2. To many major organisations = WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO + The Ring Magazine title who represents the lineal championship. 3. The organisations demand only ONE title fight per YEAR! 4. Organisations like WBC & WBA have TO MANY belts out. Silver champion, Gold champion, Regular champion, Emeritus champion, Franchise champion.... it is just making them worth nothing. In the past, there was; The World title, the Interim title, The Commonwealth title, the European title, the NABF title. Back then these titles was THE championship belts to go for (depending on world region for some) and the world title was THE main goal. Simple. 5. The Networks should not be involved for getting a championship match made = They should deal that with 50/50 from airing the fight. Simple. 6. The promotors should not be in the way for making a fight the fans want regardless of if they have that fighter in there stable or not. 7. The judges corruption and biases....the oldest problem there is. 8. The fights are not universally regulated with anti-drug tests in a regulated system. 9. Fighters today are simply put work lazy. They fight to less and having only 1-3 fights per year is just not enough. Fighters just back in the 80's fought 3-5 times a year as champions! Today many just come out 1 or 2 times at top a year. 10. That freakin "0". To many fighters take a false pride in being undefeated - despite that means NOTHING if you have not fought any serious opposition. A fighter who have losses, but still been a true level boxer and/or go for avenging those losses improve career legacy. Not by pretending. 11. Chreey picking - That freakin cherry picking to constantly see boxers pick easy fights and avoidence of opponents that are both better and more deserving. To many journymen level gets miltiple shots while the really good ones have to stand in a long time wait and only at mandatory get that shot! To many great boxers grow old and loses there prime years because of this. Sonny Liston, Luis Ortiz, Marvin Hagler etc had to wait far to long. 12. Diva mentality from fighters like Floyd Mayweather Jr. - No matter how skilled you are, portraying as a diva, greedy and better then evreyone is tasteless, disrespectfull, classless and insulting to the sport. 13. Race baiting in ANY sport is not okay. It is not okay to bring toxic race politics into it. Regardless of skin color or ethicity, all boxers are the same worth and all boxers are on the same line to recieve praise, admiration, critisism and legitimate frustration from fans & critics when doing questionble decisions.
Fantastic work here Propa as always! There's never been a more uninspiring champion than Floyd Mayweather. Manny donated a huge portion of his money from the fight with pretty boy!
The older I get, the more the list grows of fights that never happened, of the best fighting the best whilst in their prime, this is leading to my continued waning of interest in the sport of boxing, I've watched entire careers go by without the fighter in question ever being truly tested.
Intresting fact Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier was the first ever heavyweight world title fight with two undefeated boxers, keep in mind the first belt had been awarded almost 100 years ago at that point and this only occured because of Ali going to Jail. Due to the success of this fight it then sparked some to start padding records although it was still uncommon, but started to become more common as the decades rolled on, until bascially Mayweather and then it became standard practice.
Spot fkn on Propa!! Promoters petty jealousies against ea other & judges who are either crooked or don't know what a scoring punch is are ruining the sport. When did they stop giving refs judging responsibilities? Three weights per weight, five belts per weight? Uber drivers can win belts these days.
It's so unfriendly for newcomer fans too. With the network thing, so many belts and guys with "perfect records" out there you've got no clue what fight to look forward to except for when the big names are featured, while the two main sports I follow, Football and Tennis, have easy to distinguish rankings and tournaments. It's almost as if the people in charge didn't want more fans, which is a disgrace as I grew up watching Ali repeats and would love to finally get on track.
Exactly why I stopped watching boxing and prefer ufc now. We rarely see match ups that we want in boxing since tyson era. Refs stop it too quick now too
I’m a boxing fan and I’m saddened to see the demise of boxing and its legacy. Greed destroys it as we don’t get to see the best of the best going against each other.
Fabulous presentation. I loved the way you used the recent ROBBERY by Josh Taylor over Jack Caterall who battered him from pillar to post for 10 of the 12 rounds and......lost. Boxing is perhaps the most corrupt sport. Kudos to Bud Crawford for posting the video of why his fight with Spence Jr. was plumped....
Floyd definitely ruined boxing for a decade at least. I appreciate how great he is but I've never wanted to watch his fights twice, unless I had trouble sleeping.
I used to have HBO, showtime, EspN and USA Tuesday night fights. I always had The Ring magazine and watched fights two, three times a week. Now, I see a fight on UA-cam every couple of weeks and they are almost never a competitive match up.
Wow just come across this guy and his posts, all I can say is absolutely wow fkn brilliant just fkn brilliant ended up watching all of his vids this guy had ne laughing for ages thus is exactly how it should be funny yet close to the point or actually stating some facts definitely following and sharing his posts so from me alone he will get a massive following boost at least all my followers will sub to him so at least 1 more follower for sure. Can't wait next fight hopefully will discuss the fight look frwrd to that respect...
Went for a bike ride to Wilmslow today and bumped into Tyson, John and Shane Fury having lunch with a few of Tyson's kids. Heard Tyson before I saw him. They were being filmed for what sounded like a birthday celebration. Tyson looked in great shape. Shane was his usual oafish self. John just sat there at the table outside the cafe taking it all in with a look on his face that said "what the frig is all this nonsense about" 😂
Guys, we are all fuming about Fury v AJ, and now this shit with Eubank Jr v Benn. But at least we still have PROPA BOXING! Thank God for this channel. ♥♥♥
The great Archie Moore had 220 bouts winning 186 of them losing to only the elite like Ali, Marciano, Patterson and Charles. Now thats legacy worthy stuff
i invite all boxing fans to watch mma, if you dont like the ufc for whatever reason, one championship is great as well or theres tons of other promotions small or big across the world
**no draws (total punches landed, in case of equal points)** **No rematch clauses** **Life ban for second offence drug violation** **Mandatory 3× annual title defences** **Compulsory belt unification fights**
This is why MMA, specifically the UFC is the best now. All the top fighters have to fight each other, it means every card is amazing and you always know who the best really is. Such a shame because I grew up loving boxing but MMA had pulled me away. :(
Stop talking nonsense. All the best fighters do not fight each other in MMA. And you don’t know who the best is when there are multiple MMA organisations around the world. Don’t be a UFCult clown 🤡.
@@al.mandez6721 sorry where did I say I don’t like boxing? I love boxing at the British level as there is no corruption or fighters avoiding fights. However MMA is levels above boxing in today’s world.
Rematch clauses have delayed the heavy weight decision by almost 4 years. If Wilder and Joshua hadn't had them we'd of had an undisputed unified champ already. When Ali first lost to Frazier he had to fight his way back until he got the foreman shot a few years later. Why shouldn't Wilder and Joshua have had to have done that to?
Sadly depressing in its accuracy, this video. I used to bet on boxing a fair bit, but there came a point where I realised I was betting against the judges. I've even heard that one judge has Canelo winning the third GGG fight 115-113, he's just waiting to hand his scorecard in.
What else is wrong with boxing? The media covered the KSI thing last night, what a joke, seen way better fights at closing time in the local, c'mon now
I've said for ages, we need a peoples belt, where we dictate the fights based on who are the best. And if fighters have separate promotors, the promotors have to take a 50/50 split in promoting and takings. With defending champs getting 80%. Qualifier/ranking fights are all 50%.
Mate! You're fucking hilarious 😂😂😂😂 I'm 2 videos into your content and I'm pissing myself... you do speak facts don't get me wrong, but you do it in the most humorous way 😂
does my head in when people call current fighters the best of all times, everyone's records these days is much more protected and didn't need a year off after every fight
But look how many have brain damage out of the old fighter
Because the sports evolved in some ways then devolved in others. For example the skill of fighters is better and the training is better but the promoters are worse
@@aarondavies8486 yeah hardly any. Take every boxer in history then tell me what ones have brain damage…. About 10
@@kanecantell5290 what are you about am talking about past compared to present time you don't see fighter getting smashed up like they used to fights can be stopped on a cut now but 30 years ago it was different look at frank Bruno he says his self if it was better refed he wouldn't be like he is so things have got better in some ways
UFC talk this shit every time theirs a new champ !
Problem with boxing is us . As fans we slag anyone off who loses one fight . And we still pay to watch people against people who they shouldn’t be in the ring with.
Honest and candid here….
Omfg finally someone says it 😮💨
Facts
🧢
Speak for yourself dude but yes I agree
Actually Mayweather did ruin boxing. Maybe inadvertently but still. He sold the idea that being undefeated was the be all and end and if you'd lost a fight, you were considered finished. And people bought into this. Hence why fighters and promoters tend not to take risks and cherry pick to preserve their 0.
they were doing that well before Mayweather started bragging
@@ahmedrahim2500mayweather popularized it
One problem with this channel. You don't bring enough videos out, I want one twice a day.
Tyson Fury - I'll fight him for free in England
*2 hours later*
Tyson Fury - I'll fight him for half a Billion in Saudi Arabia
You have comedically described boxing with 100% accuracy. Amazing work as always! BOSH!!
Rubbish it's the most inaccurate video ever. Bigoted one sided and deliberately overlooking many things.
@@rocroca7459 oh look, I've found Frank Warren's UA-cam account!
@@jimsicle nope!
😂
The managers are the problem - They are blocking risky fights to wait for a payday because if their fighter lose's their value goes down
Yep
Well said. Why I don't watch boxing anymore is for all of these reasons. Everything is a career move to garner the most money. Not just by the boxers but everyone hanging off them.
The addition of multiple sanctioning bodies is the reason Boxing has degraded to almost Pro Wrestling levels of legitimately. The Executives of the crooked sanctioning bodies are then bribed, wined and dined by the corrupt promoters to manipulate the rankings and break rules in that promoters fighters favor. Then you end up with the possibility of having these same crooked promoters representing four different fighters being recognized as a “world champion” all at the same time. Now add the backstage politics to this and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand this. It’s going to take a enormous amount of reform starting with mandatory unification of all champions in all weight classes to establish one true champ per class like in the days of legends such as Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Suger Ray Robinson. The bodies would be downgraded and cease to hold any relevancy all while being regarded in the same manor as minor bodies such as the IBO. This or a plan similar is the only way to begin to restore boxing to the greatness and legitimacy it once held something sadly I have little faith I will live to see in my lifetime.
Simply put in one word, MONEY.
The problems with professional boxing can be summond like this;
1. To many weight-divisions.
2. To many major organisations = WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO + The Ring Magazine title who represents the lineal championship.
3. The organisations demand only ONE title fight per YEAR!
4. Organisations like WBC & WBA have TO MANY belts out. Silver champion, Gold champion, Regular champion, Emeritus champion, Franchise champion.... it is
just making them worth nothing. In the past, there was; The World title, the Interim title, The Commonwealth title, the European title, the NABF title.
Back then these titles was THE championship belts to go for (depending on world region for some) and the world title was THE main goal. Simple.
5. The Networks should not be involved for getting a championship match made = They should deal that with 50/50 from airing the fight. Simple.
6. The promotors should not be in the way for making a fight the fans want regardless of if they have that fighter in there stable or not.
7. The judges corruption and biases....the oldest problem there is.
8. The fights are not universally regulated with anti-drug tests in a regulated system.
9. Fighters today are simply put work lazy. They fight to less and having only 1-3 fights per year is just not enough. Fighters just back in the 80's fought 3-5 times a
year as champions! Today many just come out 1 or 2 times at top a year.
10. That freakin "0". To many fighters take a false pride in being undefeated - despite that means NOTHING if you have not fought any serious opposition.
A fighter who have losses, but still been a true level boxer and/or go for avenging those losses improve career legacy. Not by pretending.
11. Chreey picking - That freakin cherry picking to constantly see boxers pick easy fights and avoidence of opponents that are both better and more deserving.
To many journymen level gets miltiple shots while the really good ones have to stand in a long time wait and only at mandatory get that shot!
To many great boxers grow old and loses there prime years because of this. Sonny Liston, Luis Ortiz, Marvin Hagler etc had to wait far to long.
12. Diva mentality from fighters like Floyd Mayweather Jr. - No matter how skilled you are, portraying as a diva, greedy and better then evreyone is tasteless,
disrespectfull, classless and insulting to the sport.
13. Race baiting in ANY sport is not okay. It is not okay to bring toxic race politics into it. Regardless of skin color or ethicity, all boxers are the same worth and all
boxers are on the same line to recieve praise, admiration, critisism and legitimate frustration from fans & critics when doing questionble decisions.
Fantastic work here Propa as always! There's never been a more uninspiring champion than Floyd Mayweather. Manny donated a huge portion of his money from the fight with pretty boy!
Spot on, you’re now UA-cams best boxing channel.
Facts and truth bombs from uncle Propa. Spot on double bosh👊👊🥊
The older I get, the more the list grows of fights that never happened, of the best fighting the best whilst in their prime, this is leading to my continued waning of interest in the sport of boxing, I've watched entire careers go by without the fighter in question ever being truly tested.
Adelaide Byrd is to scoring what Gandhi was to power lifting. She should never be allowed anywhere near a fight again.
Yet she’s still working big fights. Unbelievable.
@@luke125 Seriously?! I didn't know that.
This videos become more and more relevant in the weeks since you made this
Intresting fact Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier was the first ever heavyweight world title fight with two undefeated boxers, keep in mind the first belt had been awarded almost 100 years ago at that point and this only occured because of Ali going to Jail. Due to the success of this fight it then sparked some to start padding records although it was still uncommon, but started to become more common as the decades rolled on, until bascially Mayweather and then it became standard practice.
Spot fkn on Propa!!
Promoters petty jealousies against ea other & judges who are either crooked or don't know what a scoring punch is are ruining the sport.
When did they stop giving refs judging responsibilities?
Three weights per weight, five belts per weight? Uber drivers can win belts these days.
That traffic light comment was epic lol
Couldn't have said it better. Bang on!
Only thing I'd add is the inactivity of the top fighters because of all of this. So frustrating!
It's so unfriendly for newcomer fans too. With the network thing, so many belts and guys with "perfect records" out there you've got no clue what fight to look forward to except for when the big names are featured, while the two main sports I follow, Football and Tennis, have easy to distinguish rankings and tournaments. It's almost as if the people in charge didn't want more fans, which is a disgrace as I grew up watching Ali repeats and would love to finally get on track.
Absolutely Brilliant! Whoever you are, you need recognition as a very talented dude!
Love the proper vids keep them coming, top quality.
keep smashing it propa
Facts and then you have these influencer fighters that fight bums and then call out professionals💀
corrupt judges, money, drugs, cheating, hype jobs, bum fights, casual fans, PPV,...Was a boxing fan since 4 years old, can't stand the sport now
You struck a a lot of exposed nerves with that bud, and made me chuckle. Good work. 👍
As funny as that was it is accurate. Promoters are the biggest problem in boxing. Any other problem is a distant 2nd
3 or 4 world chapions at each weight? "There can be only ONE"
A good friend of mine was a pro boxer & gave up after his fight with Audley Harrison due to his promoter, he now runs his own gym in Chingford.
Exactly why I stopped watching boxing and prefer ufc now. We rarely see match ups that we want in boxing since tyson era.
Refs stop it too quick now too
You are the absolute propa nutz, uncle props. Get this man to gold status.
I’m a boxing fan and I’m saddened to see the demise of boxing and its legacy. Greed destroys it as we don’t get to see the best of the best going against each other.
Proper channel keep it up uncle you will blow up bosh
Factual and funny. Another Propa classic. Cheers Uncle Propa
I love the reoccuring stick that Floyd gets from uncle propa 😂
Mayweather is actually all of these reasons. Nearly all of what’s wrong with boxing stems from the “Money” Mayweather persona in the late 00s-2010s.
Nice one for putting Catterall's robbery in there. Fkd boxing off pretty much these days, ufc and ONE baby!
Fabulous presentation. I loved the way you used the recent ROBBERY by Josh Taylor over Jack Caterall who battered him from pillar to post for 10 of the 12 rounds and......lost. Boxing is perhaps the most corrupt sport.
Kudos to Bud Crawford for posting the video of why his fight with Spence Jr. was plumped....
Yet another truth bomb by ‘Old Uncle Propa……..Bosh 💣 💥👊🏻
Floyd definitely ruined boxing for a decade at least. I appreciate how great he is but I've never wanted to watch his fights twice, unless I had trouble sleeping.
Froch v groves 1 was a cracking fight.
SPOT ON!!! WELL SAID.
Best sub I ever had keep ‘‘em coming
that was a good rant spot on some one had to tell it as it is
Spot on! 🥊
I used to have HBO, showtime, EspN and USA Tuesday night fights. I always had The Ring magazine and watched fights two, three times a week. Now, I see a fight on UA-cam every couple of weeks and they are almost never a competitive match up.
Like most sports they have all been ruined by money and greed, just like most things in this world. Money and greed corrupts most people
Boxing needs a league where everyone fights everyone
No it doesn’t. That’s not possible.
Propa and BBB ty booth only ones worth watching
Great video
you are a genius, thank you for all your vids, brilliant
I wonder if A.I judges will ever be a thing - could minimise the bullshit decisions, the lack of impartiality, or the corruption of judges.
Wow just come across this guy and his posts, all I can say is absolutely wow fkn brilliant just fkn brilliant ended up watching all of his vids this guy had ne laughing for ages thus is exactly how it should be funny yet close to the point or actually stating some facts definitely following and sharing his posts so from me alone he will get a massive following boost at least all my followers will sub to him so at least 1 more follower for sure. Can't wait next fight hopefully will discuss the fight look frwrd to that respect...
As true a piece of video as you will ever get.100%correct.
Went for a bike ride to Wilmslow today and bumped into Tyson, John and Shane Fury having lunch with a few of Tyson's kids. Heard Tyson before I saw him. They were being filmed for what sounded like a birthday celebration.
Tyson looked in great shape. Shane was his usual oafish self. John just sat there at the table outside the cafe taking it all in with a look on his face that said "what the frig is all this nonsense about" 😂
Yup. 10000% spot on
It’s amazing how it has survived so long
Love it!
Thank you PROPA for touching me in all the wrong places. Get in there my son!!!
No1 youtube content provider award 2022 goes to PROPAaaaaaaaa!!!!!
Guys, we are all fuming about Fury v AJ, and now this shit with Eubank Jr v Benn. But at least we still have PROPA BOXING! Thank God for this channel. ♥♥♥
Genius! You sir...are a legend! ;)
Perfectly summed up
The great Archie Moore had 220 bouts winning 186 of them losing to only the elite like Ali, Marciano, Patterson and Charles. Now thats legacy worthy stuff
Articulated with humour what every boxing fan really thinks… uncle propa is propa 😎
..Bang on.
Yep that sums it up nicely
Skipped characters like Daniel Kinahan...
Unfortunately mate most sport is corrupt one way or another and its the fans that suffer
Get back to the pub with that predictable banter will ya
Legend !
i invite all boxing fans to watch mma, if you dont like the ufc for whatever reason, one championship is great as well or theres tons of other promotions small or big across the world
Yes One championship is definitely worth your time
I agree with everything you said mate.
That Catteral fight took the pisssss
Too many belts that are only there to get sanctioning fees, and some how make a "silver diamond intermediate super duper belt" fight a PPV
There should be one champion per weight class. That's the biggest issue in boxing to me. There should only be one heavyweight champion.
Bang on
When the circus gets ridiculous, walk away. Only after, will a new model appear, to fill the void.
Boxing was finished for me a few years ago its all blatant wrestling and corruption now but i love your videos😂
Love u propa
Truer words have not been spoken.
Why did i find you just know?
Love your Videos
Did i write know instead of now🦧
**no draws (total punches landed, in case of equal points)**
**No rematch clauses**
**Life ban for second offence drug violation**
**Mandatory 3× annual title defences**
**Compulsory belt unification fights**
Preach it Uncle Propa!! Maybe someone will listen!!!!
Excellent channel my man. 👊👊👊
Uncle Propa telling it like it is
Can't argue facts!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 great one
This is why MMA, specifically the UFC is the best now. All the top fighters have to fight each other, it means every card is amazing and you always know who the best really is.
Such a shame because I grew up loving boxing but MMA had pulled me away. :(
Stop talking nonsense. All the best fighters do not fight each other in MMA. And you don’t know who the best is when there are multiple MMA organisations around the world. Don’t be a UFCult clown 🤡.
@@joco2826 okay buddy, you’re entitled to your opinion. :)
@@aidentrades3745 no you sound silly. Why not like both? Your just an mma fan girl.
@@al.mandez6721 sorry where did I say I don’t like boxing? I love boxing at the British level as there is no corruption or fighters avoiding fights. However MMA is levels above boxing in today’s world.
SPOT ON.
Rematch clauses have delayed the heavy weight decision by almost 4 years. If Wilder and Joshua hadn't had them we'd of had an undisputed unified champ already. When Ali first lost to Frazier he had to fight his way back until he got the foreman shot a few years later. Why shouldn't Wilder and Joshua have had to have done that to?
Sadly depressing in its accuracy, this video. I used to bet on boxing a fair bit, but there came a point where I realised I was betting against the judges. I've even heard that one judge has Canelo winning the third GGG fight 115-113, he's just waiting to hand his scorecard in.
Oh cmon ur just making shit up now , theirs no proof of that
What else is wrong with boxing? The media covered the KSI thing last night, what a joke, seen way better fights at closing time in the local, c'mon now
The fact that Mayweather fights these people in exibition matches just to look good 😂😂😂.
I've said for ages, we need a peoples belt, where we dictate the fights based on who are the best. And if fighters have separate promotors, the promotors have to take a 50/50 split in promoting and takings. With defending champs getting 80%. Qualifier/ranking fights are all 50%.
Good points mate
The first complaint is something the UFC doesn't have a problem with (as much) love watching the best fight the best
Make the referee a third judge, and have only 1/2 belts, Bosh!
Can’t have 2 belts in a sport of thousands of fighters
1:15 AJ with that gear gut
Spot on acutely said in humerus way but fuck was you spot on 😂😂
Mate! You're fucking hilarious 😂😂😂😂 I'm 2 videos into your content and I'm pissing myself... you do speak facts don't get me wrong, but you do it in the most humorous way 😂
“Give Fury 500 million and he’ll fight Joshua for free” 😂😂
No comment, apart from “that about sums it up”.