How steaks changed U.S. history.
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- In the episode "Cattles Drives, Beefsteak and American History," The History Guy remembers cattle drives driving history. It is history that deserves to be remembered.
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"Per capita beef consumption will never reach it's former levels". Well... I'm only one man, but I'm willing to try to compensate for the slackers.
Ground turkey. Either the cows died off or turkeys grow faster. All i see are Angus beef types.
Ill try to redouble my efforts sir
Yes it will. In fact the lies about red meat are being debunked. Lies about cholesterol is being debunked. Got to quit listening those whose strings are getting pulled by the biggest money.
@@jonlanier_ if we all ate a fair share we wouldnt have a problem then right
I bet I can eat one more than you. 😁
My neighbors in Mississippi kept a few hundred head of longhorn steers down the road from me, and an even larger herd of longhorn cows and calves a few more miles away. Longhorns are STUNNINGLY beautiful. People would frequently pull over and park to admire them and take photos, me included. Their beauty never failed to impress me even after seeing them almost daily for years.
For around 60 years I've wanted one of those horns so I could make a powder horn for black powder.
Descriptions like this really explain why people romanticize the agricultural past. For all it’s faults, man was definitely closer to nature in many ways.
Beef. It's what's for history.
This sentence is so satisfying
The History Guy should've mentioned the negative health effects of eating so much meat. I've read a couple of times that there were very few heart attacks before the 20th Century. It was when humans started eating artery clogging beef on a daily basis that the "heart attack epidemic" started. The History Guy seems to be celebrating America's bad eating habits in this episode.
Art Curator explain to me while I eat a medium rare ribeye that our life expectancies have improved. I put butter on my steaks too. My still living 95 yr old father taught me that and at 64 yrs just got a clean bill of health.
@@MarkSmith-js2pu I'm 65 in a few days and thanks be to God I grew up comfortable. Both my parents went through the great depression and it was a source of pride for both of them to provide beef 4 or 5 times a week for dinner. Myself and my 3 brothers were never fat growing up (neither were my parents) and my two late brothers and parents died of causes unrelated to their health.
PS - I don't care for rib eye so I'll take a porter house if you don't mind. Happy New Year sir. Oh yeah, last night I grilled some burgers for my wife and I and I put a pat of butter on each of them. Mmmmm
Vegan diets are very unhealthy, healthier to eat nothing but meat than it is to eat no meat. Balanced diets are the key, and they include meat.
My wife immigrated to Canada, in the 80s from Switzerland 🇨🇭 and carved out a cattle ranch out of the forest land in BC, Canada were she imported Red Angus which were seldom seen in the area she settled.
After I " imported " her to the State's we managed the headquarters of Texas cattle ranch that had been homesteaded by a drover in the late 1800s.
He made a deal with the Bossman to take his wages in cattle.
He chose an area that was just outside of the good farming land but close to a river.
He struggled for years slowly increasing his heard and his land.
Then one day in the1920s oil was found on his land. His life was never the same, nor were his descendants for that matter.
Oil wells were still being drilled when my wife and I left Texas.
They still had large herds of cattle but the wealth came from oil.
Like the hollywood blockbuster "Giant". Great story btw, thanks for sharing
Now many ranchers here in TX augment their income with wind farms.
@@frequentlycynical642 We will never run out of wind here in the Texas Panhandle.....
@@nancyk3615 Not true. Sure, it's windy in the long term, but plenty of hours w/o sufficient wind to drive the windmills.
Animal protein is a reason that historically young Americans were taller and healthier than our European and Asian contemporaries
Many accounts of when the Doughboys of the AEF hit France in 1918 The French could not believe how big they were. It was the first time large numbers of everyday Americans had returned to Europe and they were physically so much bigger because of their diet of beef.
Same thing happened when Australian, New Zealand and Canadian troops arrived in WW1.. They where bigger then their British counterparts and for the same reason.. Better diet with higher beef consumption..
By the looks of some folks now, some have over done it XXXXXL ?
funsweed Back when people worked harder on average that meat was was burned off through exercise or turned into muscle. Now a lot more of it stays in the gut.
Well,
beef is certainly part of the equation.
But i have to point out one blaring oversight.
Lets say Suzie goes to the highschool dance.
Bobby, who comes up to Suzie's chin, sees suzie, and saunters on over and proceeds to put the make on her.
Long about the time Suzie is starting to succumb to Bobbie's charms, however persuasive, here comes Good Looking Johny the Allstar.
Now Suzie comes up to Johny's chin, and as soon as Johnny opens up with, "Hi, Suzie!
Check out the letter i got for that touchdown last Friday against Elmwood", its game over for Bobby.
Two years later is born 13 lb 8 oz Johnny Jr, After that, 15lb, 2oz little Janey, and a year or so later, a smaller kid who bares a striking resemblance to the milk man.
@@abcdef-cf2uk do you mean Gene was conceived by the milkman and genetics play the huge part in his size?
I love beef. Steaks, stews, hamburgers ect. I’m reminded of the “beef it’s what’s for dinner.” Commercials that ran in the 80s and 90s.
The more likely origin of the term "The Real McCoy" is from steam engine lubricators built by Elijah McCoy in 1872. Competitors reverse engineered his design and made cheaper versions which didn't work as well. After the disastrous and expensive failures of the knockoff designs they demanded new lubricators to be "The Real McCoy".
As Joseph McCoy and Elijah McCoy were contemporaries, and both notably successful in their fields, there is some confusion as to which spawned the term. However, there are similar terms, such as "The Real McKay" in Scotland which is first recorded in the mid to late 1850s, and Elijah spent several years in that country in the late 1850s and early 1860s. During that time he probably became acquainted with that saying. Then later in life coined "The real McCoy" as a marketing slogan for his lubricators.
@G S I read/watched something about proofing liquor during prohibition if it lit on fire - it was "the Real McCoy"
i heard that too from 3abn
I'm surprised he got that wrong.
Takes me back to my bachelors degree from OSU, which primarily focused on westward expansion. Those cattle drives to Abilene, Wichita, Dodge and other Kansas towns passed right through Indian Territory and left a marked impression on today’s Oklahoma. Thanks for another great video.
"Meanwhile, in Texas . . ." sounds like a line from so many westerns.
@moreno franco yeah Texas is nice only problem is it's full of Texans.
Also, "meanwhile back at the ranch " LOL.
@@Space.Ghost. with a sassy attitude like that maybe you should stay in California. It's full of your kind.
@@llkjjjss no thanks. I would rather bring the full california experience to a town near you! I just sold my 1979 single wide trailer for 1.8 million and I was thinking of moving to Austin, Missoula, Boise, Jackson Hole.........The best part is that I'm going to bring everything that's killed California with me. Soon you won't even have to leave your home to experience the golden state.
@@Space.Ghost. is that a summery of a horror movie? Because that sounds like a bad time
My wife is a descendant of a Sephardic Jewish family from the Canary Islands, originally Spanish refugees from Holland, sent by Spain In the first boatload of civilian settlers to Texas. They landed at Matagorda in 1791, along with the breeds that developed into the Longhorn. These civilians, among them Jews and Christian heretics, were sent, in what was effectively a death sentence, to populate Texas in a move to prevent a return of the French (see Sieur de la Salle). Several of the towns in the region have references to cattle: Matagorda (fat grass); Ganado (cattle); Lavaca (the cow); Cuero (leather).
The Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca and La Salle stories are amazing stories of survival, willpower, and fortitude in this region, and very few know of it. Suffice to say they don’t make them like they used to.
They don’t seem to make them like they used to, but you would have to admit that difficult circumstances bring out the courage in people. I know some brave Sepharads, heroes to me.
I recall watching a movie about Cabeza de Vaca.
Thank you for that history.
I think those Sephardic Jews came from the Dutch East India company in Brazil. The Dutch did not want them to comeback to Holland when the expulsion order occured. Some of these Jews showed up in the Eastern US. might check on it.
@@johngreen3543 the Spanish regularly used Canary Islanders to colonize their New World ventures. In addition to my wife’s family in Texas, we’re aware of other Canarian implants in Louisiana, San Augustine, Fl and Pensacola, Fl.
That was a juicy, well flavored episode. Your growing popularity is well deserved. Kudos!
I'd definitely grade it Prime!
Bill Hilliard
It was a rare snippet of history.
But it was well done.
And, for sure, videos of this quality are...rare.
As a history buff and reservoir of history trivia myself, I appreciate your love of history and your insight into a wide variety of history subjects. Always entertaining and enlightening. I watch your channel more than any other on UA-cam.
We started raising Angus beef back in the 50s along with our dairy herd of Holsteins. I loved my Angus cows as they were easy to handle and good mothers.
Thank you for mentioning, briefly, my home state of Nebraska. The Chicago, Burlington, and Quincy Railroad line from Lincoln across the Sand Hills and toward the mountain states gave cattle ranches in the region much shorter drives to get them to market. Many of the little towns dotted across this area were water stations for the railroad and the development of both industries are very connected.
I had, probably one good history teacher throughout high school. With a teacher like you, I would have majored in it. Thanks for informing me of "new" facts, as well as expounding on the stuff I already knew. I hope your students appreciate you.
It makes a huge difference. He's like my last math teacher - math became my favorite subject and I was the best in class after being less than mediocre for ten years.
I often wonder how much of it is also simply growing up and maturity. It's simply harder to calm down and pay attention to things when you're a teenager and in school.
@@chickenfishhybrid44 Depends. I had some good teachers. They kept you engaged. Of course I remember the bad ones, too. The rest...
Of course there was another thing...discipline.
My father served in the Air National Guard. He was a civil engineer. The logo for his unit was “Prime Beef”.
BEEF stood for base emergency engineering force
Air guard units were called ANGUS BEEF
I checked my settings to make sure I wasn't on 1.5x speed
Yes, he is a bit "cafenated" "Pump the brakes" History Guy!
He must be from NY. I understood him perfectly and I prefer his fast no nonsense style of speaking.
As a fellow fast talker, I can relate 😄
I played it at .75 and it sounded normal.
@@mynameisgladiator1933 I live in New York City and this is the way we speak. I prefer someone who speaks fast. I was once told by a doctor that my mind runs too fast and was offered medication to slow it down. I declined.
Surf and turf suggestion: Lobster was once fed to convicts and considered poor people's food. Now lobster is expensive. How did this transformation happen? Ty! Eric
Lobsters are sea bugs, right? Ugly mean things that taste great!
Like Diamonds, it's a trick of the industry.
@@davidcopperfield-notthemag397 Its true! Lobsters, crabs, shrimp are evolved from the trilobite as are insects and arachnids. Happy eating.
@Phil M Lobsters are in fact related to bugs. Lobsters and bugs both evolved from the trilobite, an extinct shellfish.
absentmindedprof Many Mexican fishing towns consider lobster little more than scavengers, not necessarily food.
I have very much enjoyed your videos. Great work. I've started watching an occasional video with my older kids. The length makes them interesting without being too much. And it's amazing how much your able to pack in. Thank you please keep it up.
Your videos are very interesting. I love your channel. My one complaint would be how fast you talk. It is so information dense and so rapidly delivered that I frequently have to rewind to catch something I missed.
Change the speed to .75.
Well it's not our fault you can't think as fast as he talks but alot if us don't have the same problem as you speed up your thoughts but please don't slowest down your speach history man we're not all inbreed like numb nuts here
@@MikeSmith-cn6ub Hold it pardner. I am a "slow learner" in four languages, and appreciate when speech does not resemble a machine gun.
4:30 "...where he built stockyards and motels..." I've always thought that the word "motel" was a contraction of "motor hotel", and the motorcar had yet to be invented. Maybe THG meant to say "moo-tel", since these were for cattlemen. 😁
Took a motorcycle trip out to Missoula, Montana in the early 80's from B'ham, Alabama. Had the chance to try a "beefalo" burger. Absolutely great. the leanness of the buffalo and the fat of the ground beef was the perfect combination. I was out there for 4 days and that was all I ate it was so good. About 1970 I spent 3 months on a working cattle ranch near Hyannis, Nebraska. Working from 0500 in the morning until 7pm was a long haul. But we got fed well and it was a learning experience for sure. When my friend and I started back home, I had the chance to figure out what we made and it came down to 54 cents an hour. But from what I learned, my hat is off to the men and women that work that job their entire life. It damned well made me appreciate just a little piece of the cattle industry. That crazy Occasional-Cortex lady in congress likes a cheeseburger? Thinks the cows farts will ruin the climate. Fines. Let's get rid of the cattle and milk industry, teach several million people to program computers, then have to import tens of millions of pounds of beef from Mexico and Canada. And how much milk could Canada provide us? That AOC lady is a moron.
The 1906 Jungle novel of Upton Sinclair is out of copyright and is available from project Gutenberg.
Another delightful history lesson, thank you! I like the new look. My great-grandfather was a part of the great cattle drives. He was named after his fathers, half-brother, and brother-in-law, my great-step-granduncle; they shared the same mother. They were referred to as George Cullen [last name] Sr. or George Cullen [last name] Jr. even though they were not father and son; it seemed more convenient that way; they were inseparable. I hope that comes out right. From the early days of Texas to Kansas and later up threw New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and into the Dakotas, as folks moved west, settling and fencing in the old trails. I have letters, newspaper articles, and pictures spanning the years, giving me a better idea of how we spread west. Many of my ancestors on my father's side were cattle barons by 1900.
#1: I like the way you graciously sidestepped the hamburger origin controversy, bravo! I’ve read a few articles on that synthetic meat burger that they grew, grilled and ate. They actually grew three of them. One they tested a few days before the publicity stunt. The other two they grilled up, one for the bosses to try and one to cut up for the press to eat. When they asked the lab workers how hard they were to make the one said that they figured up just their time in the three burgers. It came out to a cool $15,000.ea , bun not included.
That picture of the man standing under the massive pile of buffalo (skulls? bones?) is extraordinary
For the term, "the real McCoy", it is attributed to inventor Elijah McCoy.
Yep a black engineer known for his patents especially railroad technology
According to my google search, I'm getting "Joseph McCoy". Maybe there is more than one claim to fame.
The story goes that he invented the oil pump of great reliability. Mechanics we're known to ask if part, "was the real McCoy?"
Have you read up on him? A brilliant inventor, i'm sure people would want what he invented rather than a knockoff.
I looked at both. McCoy is a Scottish name, and there is advertising from the 1850s from Scotland that mentioned "the real McKay", so it's understandable that the same phrase can be used in other English speaking countries.
Well, I have listened to 1/2 a dozen of these shows now. it amazes me because all the work that goes into it and all the research that goes into it. Then you condense it down to 10 to 15 minutes... amazing. Thank you for all your efforts two thumbs up for me
Love your videos. Learn a lot in brief time. Great interest and variety. Thanks
Etymology is history too! The history of words. According to the Franco-German culture channel Arte (26.01.2020), the word “burger” started out as the German word for Mountain “Berg” which was modified to “Burg” for the castles which were often built upon them. People who lived in castles were called “Bürgers” which is the derivation of the words in Italian “borgo” and “Borghesia”. In French “bourg” and “bourgeoisie” and in Flemish “bourgmestre”. This led to town names often ending in variations of “burg” like Göteborg, Salesbury, Cherbourg and, of course, Hamburg. There was a particular cut of meat popular in Hamburg called “Hamburger Stück” (meaning piece) which crossed the Atlantic with the German migrants as “Steak”. The minced version of this was called “Hamburger Steak” and then just “hamburger”, later just “burger”. Wiktionary disagrees about the derivation of Steak. It says it comes form Middle English “Steike”, but maybe there was a parallel etymology on both sides of the Atlantic.
Hi Mr. History Gut, Thank you for your dedication to your craft. As I see it, you really are the master of your niche. Not only are you very well adept at reporting the history subjects you present, you find the most interesting and significant historical items, episodes that I otherwise would NEVER have even heard of. This morning I enjoyed my coffee in an official History Guy Cat mug. Lovely
This Intro should be brought back to the channel. Your enthusiasm about history shines thru without the need for computer graphics. Way more genuine.
As Upton Sinclair probably said, "I aimed for their hearts and I hit their stomachs instead."
As Upton Sinclair also stated, “this is a fictional novel”
The first cattle drives from Texas actually went to Sedalia, MO. The St Joseph and Kansas City stockyards became huge for a while. Hamburgers were cheap because they were ground from the trimmings of other beef cuts, they went from waste to wealth when the hamburger was popularized.
I LOVED that you could say "ever improving plant based meat substitutes" with a straight face! Well done!
Dear History Guy, I find every topic you cover fascinating! You are very thorough and believable.
I would love to see you do a segment on the history of the US 9th Infantry Regiment.
Once you start learning about one of the oldest US ARMY Regiments, you will not want to stop.
@ 2:30
"European settlers brought European breeds to Texas in the 1820's, and those interbred with the wild Spanish cattle creating the distinct breed called the Longhorn."
Spain is in Europe.
Jeff Hurd - I always thought Spain was European. Confused the mess out of me.
PLEASE do an entire episode on the Johnson county cattle war its so cool. I grew up in Johnson County and its one of my favorite stories.
I thought the McCoy Oilers was the start of .."the real McCoy"?
A drop feed oiler for machinery.
Yes...first implemented widely on steam locomotives.
I like this kind of history more than the big events everybody is expected to learn. How folks lived and the innovations that changed the societal landscape.
Wasn't there a time when hundreds of camels were brought to Texas? I think for the military. It would be pretty cool if you did an episode on that.
I agree. I grew up in Texas in the area the US Army attempted the camel experiment. There are a lot of legends in the area regarding that time of history.
It would be great to get the real story.
I am impressed and grateful for your love of history and how you share it. Thank you.
Good video, as always. I just have two points: 1. Aberdeen Angus cattle ARE today's Black Angus, they didn't mix with Longhorns to become that. 2. All meat is antibiotic free as it will be rejected by packing plant inspectors if it is not.
So antibiotic-free beef looks different to the inspectors and they will reject it?
They pull small samples. Same with milk, eggs, whatever. The food labeling is ridiculous, it's all the same stuff but charge more for antibiotic free. And it all is. Virtually no pesticide residue either but we've got a thriving organic industry which is an incredible amount of fraud. Yes I know many "organic farmers" and I also know the spray pilots that spray their fields. Why? Twice as much money for "organic" and there aren't pesticides on them anyways. The reason most farmers aren't organic is because first of all they know it's bs but it's actually hard to make money doing it honestly according to the rules so they stick with traditional methods that work to keep them in business. They're honest. It's the guys doing "organic" that are the crooks. I hear of honest organic farmers but I have never met one. I don't buy organic and neither do any farmers I know. We know better.
@@alfredhitchlock501 you a real farmer hoss ? that's impressive. What area ?
Antibiotics is used in most cattle . they aren't allowed to be slaughtered till they are under a withdrawal period....
Speaking of being from Nebraska, Omaha in particular, I graduated high school in 1972, to give a point of reference. About 36 City blocks west of the Missouri River I grew up being accustomed to the stockyards, which is where the cattle ranchers and farmers would bring their cattle. Places called meatpacking plants, of which there were 4 to 5 of them, Were right next-door… Swift, Cudahy, armor are the ones that come to mind. By the mid-70s I think only one was left, and the story then was that Chicago already in the meatpacking business simply absorbed Omaha’s Business.
The Chicago yards and packers were already largely out of business when the Omaha Stockyards became the leading market. What later happened, as he alluded to in the video, is that the packing industry dispersed out into the countryside, closer to the feedlots. Under the old "stockyard" system, feeders took their stock to the yards, where "commission" firms showed the cattle off to buyers from the various packers to get the best price. For this they received a commission, hence the name.
Under the current system feeders deal directly with the packers and the cattle (and hogs) go directly from the feeder to the packing plant, making stockyards unnecessary.
Did you up the Audio and Vid speed in order to fit your production into a timeframe because like your southern listeners we cannot put a syllable together that quick your call. Love your work. Aussie Jeff
Again history man we're not all inbreed like numb nuts here please don't slowest down your speech sir thanks from all if us that can think as fast as you talk please get rid of the inbreeds in the world news flash people sex with relatives is not normal and isn't right
Another side of this story you can cover is the how the advent of refrigerated shipping brought about the Crisis of Vienna, as America, Canada and Argentina began exporting beef and pork to Europe, and how the advent of refrigerated shipping was a significant contributor to the World Wars in terms of severity, protracted length and ultimately symbolically.
I have become used to learning a lot from your videos. This one takes the cake! How do you pack so many facts into such a short video? Absolutely astounding! Yet, Fake Beef??!! No way! Even petrie dish beef sounds totally wrong. As always a great video. The new intro is cool!
Araeagle I talk really fast- it is a gift. :)
The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered If you could slow down just a tad it would be even better. Love your videos. Keep it up!
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel You do talk fast. I think you said bison were extinct. ?
Gary Schmidt no, bison are not extinct.
@@mbavery1975 I love the history guy videos too, but sometimes I can't quite process the information because it goes so fast. so for this video I changed the Speed to
" .75". It was perfect for listening and absorbing the information. I don't want to miss any of those tidbits of knowlede!
Thank you so much for your Video+Channel !!!
So welcomed and informative!
Has no one mentioned the Argentines? They like a bit of beef down there!
Great episode! There are many areas in the American West that are still open range, in Wyoming and Montana especially.
love your channel but my god man slow down im a southerner and we dont listen as fast as you talk...lol
Your slow thought is only your own problem.
I came here to write a similar comment. He talks to fast and needs to chill out. I like the content but I wish he would just mellow out a bit instead of trying to cram as many words into the 10 minutes as possible. Presentation style is important.
@@ivorjawa Way to make it personal... He has a point. It's not the ideal way to present information. He should slow down, relax, breath, pause. Allow the audience to ponder things. It's how good speakers speak.
I had a little trouble understanding since in a few places your words ran together. In one place I had to turn on closed captions to figure out one word you were saying. I did do it but no thanks the to cc's, they produced a nonsense word. I kept wondering what the rush was all about?
@@rosepearl7092 I think he just had too much to cover in his promised 5-10 min. videos. I am impressed he can speak so fast and remain composed. It is a dense topic and a fast presentation doesn't do it justice. I would rather he spent an extra 10 min. so we could absorb one idea before moving on to the next.
I love your channel. One small request. Could you speak slower please? I know you like to keep your videos short and jam packed with information but even if they were a mite bit longer if you spoke slower it would save us old timers from rewinding because we miss something. Thanks so much for considering my request and keep up the great work.
In Australia, the abundance of sunlight and fresh food, with a regular supply of meat meant that within a hundred years we grew to 6 foot on average whereas the first fleeters were on average a full 10 inches shorter like the average Londoner which we mostly descended from, at the time.
The children of Asians that emigrate to the US frequently end up being significantly taller and heavier built than their parents. There's something to be said for "corn fed."
05:12 There seems to be some discrepancy between your version of the genesis of "The Real McCoy" and that of the History Channel. According to them, the term's genesis came from Canadian-born inventor and engineer of African American descent Elijah J. McCoy who was notable for his 57 US patents, most having to do with the lubrication of steam engines. Which version is correct?
Very informative. I recently subscribed to your channel as it is wonderfully interesting. It's past midnight in the UK but I am now thinking of hamburgers!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I really loved the synopsis. Taught me several things I didn't know.
In a very short span of time.
I'm very happy I discovered your channel!
I grew up in the 60s, we ate beef during the week, weekends were pork or chicken, that we looked forward to.
Chicken used to be expensive, which is why it was usually served on Sundays or special occasions.
Pork is the God's way of telling me that he loves me. And I am an atheist.
when i grew up beef was cheap, ground beef was dirt cheap, roasts were affordable in large quantities by even the poor, and middle class people could eat steak regularly. now steak is a rare treat :/
@@arthas640 When I was a kid ('50s and '60s) we ate mostly beef, chicken less often and pork occasionally. Nowadays, beef is too dear and my wife and I live mostly on pork, chicken and eggs.
I really love these video gems of yours! I share them with my 12 year old grandson too.
Sometimes you can learn just as much history from the comment section alone. Thanks to all who shared snippets of their own History Channel.
I totally love how your videos open with "It's history...That deserves to be remembered!"
Yeah this video piece reminds me of that old song, “ don’t fence me in” ,
Give me land, lots of land to roam?? ;
Interesting article though;
Peace out everyone 👍
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Yes, we here in our home eat beef about twice a week, more so in the summer months. Burgers, steak, ribs on the grill. Thanks for this tidbit of our American history and how beef came to be a huge part of it.
"The real McCoy" is an expression that has attracted many "folk etymologies" over the years, but it seems to have started out as a corruption of a Scots expression, "the real MacKay", although it's not certain why or how "MacKay" became "McCoy". One possibility is railroad engineers asking for "the real [Elijah] McCoy system" of automatic lubrication for steam engines. Another is, indeed, Joseph McCoy, of Abilene, KS, and even the Hatfield-McCoy feud. The phrase was also associated with boxer Kid McCoy, but as "the real McCoy" appears in print first in North America in 1881, when he was just nine years old, it's unlikely to stem from him.
I've also seen it attributed to Bill McCoy, a 1920's bootlegger who ran whiskey from the Bahamas to rum row off the NE coast of America: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McCoy_(bootlegger)#/media/File:The_Real_McCoy.png
I imagine the term was known before and was just co-opted by others for marketing.
Mark Mealman We can confidently say that isn’t the origin since it was used in the 19th century. He probably used the phrase and may have popularized the phrase at the time, but not the origin.
As usual, fascinating! Thanks, History Guy!
Chewin on a one pound Texas cheeseburger right now
That's your foot.
You keeping do you brother
Skip the carbs and add bacon.
Knife and fork. Even a Texan can't fit that in their mouth.
You are beautiful person, sir.
Thanks for your good work.
I have 2 - 1 1/4" thick Black Angus NY Strip steaks for the BBQ tonight. It's gonna be great.
This is the only channel on UA-cam where I have to actually slow the video down to enjoy it. lol
I thought "the real McCoy" had to do with Elijah McCoy's locomotive oiling system. You might want to do a show on him.
There are a number of different proposed origins, we don’t really know what is true.
Love the pace of the video. Great job
Well done video.
I'll have the burger medium-rare
Ghrey by coincidence, that is what I had for lunch.
The first time I was asked at a restaurant how I wanted my hamburger done, I thought, well, I like my steaks medium-rare close to rare, so heck, why not my hamburger?
Never had I seen anything that resembled a soup sandwich so literally. The meat barely held together and the bread soaked up most of the moisture. I was a little grossed out. I'm not a picky eater, but I didn't finish that burger. From then on, "well-done" has been my response for hamburgers, "still mooing," for my steak.
Abilene was also the hometown of Dwight D. Eisenhower, one of this country's greatest citizens.
Where in heck did u learn to spit the kings.english at.that speed accuratly? I suspect. Background in broadcastting? Rich/San Jose
He calls horse races at weekends, and is an auctioneer through the week.
by far my favourite channel on you tube
Being a Florida native, I'd heard all of my life that "The Real McCoy" came from the McCoy Brothers or Ormond Beach, Florida who, with their fast schooner, the Tomoka, imported vast quantities of liquor during prohibition time. Never cutting their liquor, folks wanted The Real McCoy. If not the earliest use of the term, it is certainly a valid claim among very few others. I think I'll keep my illusion intact, since I've been a guest in their old home many times.
The etymology of the phrase is long disputed. We know the term was used in reference to Joseph McCoy, but it may well not have been the first and certainly isn't the only place it has been used.
Agreed - there's one I hadn't heard before down the thread a bit - and I collect "Real McCoy" stories!
Additionally I have heard it attributed to a black railroad man named McCoy who invented an automatic oiler for the driver wheels on steam locomotives when cheap knockoffs started flooding the market print ads urged manufacturers to settle for nothing less than the real McCoy
@@johntabler349 - I hadn't heard that one! Thanks! I collect them!
We all know "The Real McCoy" is from Dr. Leonard H. "Bones" McCoy and his legacy circa 2151 in Star Fleet.
Amazing amounts of info stuffed in this video. You condensed the history of into a few minutes, well done.
There’s even a professional sports team named because of the meat packing industry....
The Green Bay Packers
Yes indeed. If I understand correctly, Curly Lambeau (Lambeau Field) owned a meat packing firm and owned or bought the football team and named it the Packers. Fun to read your comment and be reminded.
Yes , I enjoyed that edition... I enjoy every edition you do ...
This video is 16675 burgers long
I sure hope he mentions Mr. Goodnight and Mr. Loving! Both men, business pards, saw an opportunity to drive millions of Texas Longhorn to Kansas and then "raihead em" to eastern markets. The "Goodnight-Loving Trail" was named for those two amazing men.
A delicious story !
I thoroughly enjoy all of your videos, but sometimes, I wish you'd slow down just a bit. You talk so fast, that sometimes it's difficult to keep up & a few extra minutes of listening wouldn't be at all objectionable.
Florida had cattle 200 years before Texas. "Cracker Cattle" are still found in the wilder places like Gulf Hammock.
One of the cheapest and most potential dangerous hunts one can get is the scrub bull, long since feral cattle. Friends who have been after them says its a sneaky,cunning and freightrain appearance, unprovoked attacs occur often.. Must dig out Lonesome Dove again now. Germany had the pickelhaube which were of leather , they had it from Argentina, when cooling room amd freezer ships came,they could export beef and not only hide and leather.
MrPh30 I collect pickelhaubes. Well, also kugelhaubes...
Do the history of the rodeo or the stockyards.
Read up on early Florida - especially the 60 years surrounding the unpleasantries between the States (so-called "Civil" war). If you enjoyed Lonesome Dove, you'll get deeply lost in the pages of A Land Remembered. www.amazon.com/Land-Remembered-Patrick-D-Smith/dp/1561641162
I've been trying to learn your stories to tell bedtime stories to my kids . . . thanks so much!
Another excellent and informative video, thank you. I am not sure your claim for the origins of the saying " the real McCoy" is correct? Perhaps you could verify this by looking into an inventor/manufacturer from Canada, named McCoy whose products were often imitated to the point that genuine ones became prized, and therefore worthy of explaining one to be in possession of "the real McCoy"?
That is the explanation I had heard before. I think he produced pottery.
@@brandylynpatrick8399 I don't know if Elijah McCoy ever did anything with pottery, but the term was derived from Elijah McCoy's invention(s), as state by Seymore Glass.
Awesome video!
The Romans had fast food outlets in their towns and cities that served "hamburgers".
can you elaborate im interested
It's a toss-up as to whether I would rather eat "beef" from a petri dish, or one of my toes.
Bradley Greenwood yeah- pretty much with ya there.
Hell, you never even noticed when McDonald's was feeding you worm burgers and Kangaroo tail! (Just pokin' fun)
Im pretty open to the idea of unique food. I'm a very adventerous eater. If I were to eat my toe it would depend on the situation and if i had to cut it off or not.
Just as the government is not allowing the use of the word MILK for non dairy products any more, eventually vegee burgers will have to be renamed.
Me three...
Congratulations, another great video. Thank you!
Makes me proud to be an American. Because I do love 🥩
Have some perspectives from my great grandmother coming from one of those ranch families. The Civil War had some impacts not mentioned in the video, but that would interest The History Guy. Union officers paid the tribes of the plains to take Texas cattle; I joked with a Lipan that my family had kept his people well fed, even when we didn't really want to. He got a grin from that. The subsequent raids and reduced available manpower caused ranchers to combine their herds for protection. There were also suspicions at the time that ranchers who had stayed behind used unscrupulous methods in dealing with neighbors who worked out bargains before heading out to the battlefield.
Texas followed Spanish law regarding water rights, which meant that such water rights traced back to whoever had found it, not the person on whose land it might be on. Thus, when barbed wire made fencing feasible, ranchers often found their herds cut off from water that was legally theirs. This was a major influence in the range wars after the Civil War.
The old-fashioned cattle drive was featured well into the 20th century; an uncle participated in one after he returned from WWII.
When it comes to "veggie" burgers, the industry makes a product that looks very much like Hamburger, but it tastes NOTHING like real Hamburger. If you can find it, try ground bison; it tastes like fine quality lean ground beef. It cost almost twice what ground beef does, but it's worth it, makes a GREAT Hamburger.
Kinda like Almond "milk" nasty sugar laden crap
I don't care for lean meat. The occasional bison burger I have had has mostly reminded me of how expensive bisons are and how crazy it is to market leaner products as healthier.
The highest fat content ground beef (hamburger) is generally listed as 27% fat content. I always buy and eat it. When I go to a party at a friend's house that serves the leaner 20% or (puh-lease) 10% fat, the taste is pathetic. Bison's lean meat is similar in that respect. It tends to be "dry" (void of fat) and a bit "tough" mostly due to being almost entirely grass fed.
Beef sold in England, at least when I ate some a few decades ago, is similarly tougher and drier. I think the American beef industry went the European way in the last 30 years or so.
Back in the 70s, the school district would have soy burgers for lunch occasionally and they were hands down better than any real beef served on other days. Unfortunately, the source of these never made it to the supermarket so they might as well be made from unobtainium today. A real pity because I'll never forget how darn good they were. Today's offerings in the supermarket are an endurance test to be certain.
@@rocksandoil2241 IMO, you can't milk a nut. They need to be made to call it something other than milk.
oldgysgt
That's a lie, or you haven't tried many.
I'm not a vegan at all, i'm just saying some of these Veg Burgers are a very good substitute for the real thing, especially when dressed.
I don't eat the "real thing" much anymore, when you eat a veg burger, you don't get that lethargic feeling of your body trying to break down the fats, you just feel...good... and move on.
Last guy to be saying this, I love eating meat, but give the veg a 2nd chance.
Love your videos Sir! Thank you.
2:28 I find that very hard to belive. Can you please give a source for this claim and explain how wild bison could possibly be tamer than domestic cattal?
long horns weren't domesticated. They were just as wild as the bison.
@@jdilksjr I've read that the woods bison in the Eastern US were half again as big as the plains bison and prior to firearms, the indians rarely even bothered to try to kill one because they very rarely succeeded. With almost no predators to cause them to fear, the woods bison became like the dodo bird, docile and almost tame. I suspect similar was true for the plains bison.
Fascinating glimpse into the many and varied instances of North American history that were intertwined with beef cattle.
I would be interested in an episode on one or more of those hats in the background.
There are two quotes from movies. The first being "Just because I eat the burger doesn't mean I want to meet the cow." And "There will always be those who are willing to pay more for the real thing." While I think its horrible how we raise these animals and rush them through metal buildings to have bolts shot through their heads to be our food, we must realize we are apex predators and omnivores and only through being on top so long could we have the luxury of coming up with such compassion for our food.. No other animal shows such tendencies. With that said I cannot and will not eat fake beef.. Sorry but something grown out of a dish sounds disgusting to me.
That real steak was grown in a leather bag...
@@ralphcraig5816 water is wet
Soon, you won't know the difference.
I am cool with trying something grown out of a dish because I think technology like that will help humanity to colonize other planets in the solar system.
Though I am concerned about how animals are treated, what I find revolting is how much meat is WASTED after all that suffering.
I think if you took every fourth or fifth cargo trailer full of cattle, and just skipped all the unnecessary effort and DROVE THE CATTLE DIRECTLY TO A LANDFILL FOR SLAUGHTER ON THE SPOT...
Yeah. That is food waste in America.
Another great video. Thanks. Dave Marks
About a history of the Cow towns like Wichita and Doge City
This was one of the best episodes.