Experimental ONE OF A KIND impact wrench - Does the ambition outweigh the current technology?

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  • Опубліковано 28 лис 2024

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  • @PetyrWo
    @PetyrWo 10 місяців тому +6

    Super video!!! Very nice experiment!!!!

  • @Failsafeman100
    @Failsafeman100 10 місяців тому +5

    Cool to see this tested! So the tool was indeed somewhat limited by the spring, but the motor is definitely not torquey enough to overcome the stronger spring huh. You've kindof created the opposite of the hikoki triple hammer which skips impacts under heavy load!

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +2

      Hmm, it would be interesting to try a triple hammer on this. *Grabs disproportionately large plasma welder.* I think there is some promise here, with proper high output batteries. However if I spend 50EUR on a battery why would I use it on this and not on the real thing. It was indeed interesting to get this done. Initially I felt I had achieved something and then the battery started to drain and I was drained of my achievement. Still surprising that with a full charge it can do better with the genuine Makita spring than with the Gisam spring in there. 20Nm difference is not too much of an overstatement I feel.

    • @Failsafeman100
      @Failsafeman100 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@BrokeLifeEUthere's a German youtuber who tried parkside 8Ah batteries on Makita knockoffs via an adapter with good results (SiegfriedBuba). I know Makita don't want to switch to better batteries on their LXT because they're trying to push people towards 40v XGT, but they're missing the boat imo, stuck on 5Ah 18650s. Imagine the possibilities of pouch cells or even 21700s on their lxt range, I'd frankly be tempted to upgrade my whole loadout and sell what I have of Parkside and others. Their tools are maybe less powerful but more reliable and serviceable than Milwaukee and Bosch, with the exception of their hammer drills. Never paying for XGT tools though, crazy prices for marginal gains

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      I also wanted to do that in this video. However I thought it would become too long and burdensome to watch. Still I think there is some more exploring to do in the battery area. I saw a claimed 16Ah Makita-like battery on Aliexpress today. I think that would be fun to try out. No info on the cells used in it though.

  • @memutu
    @memutu 10 місяців тому +2

    Also, on that model, using an original makita batery helps. God job on this one!

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you, I don't think there was any proper insight in this video, but on the other hand it was fun to get to do this.

    • @memutu
      @memutu 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU for me it was, as, at some point, was thinking of tweak it as you did, also, it was fun explaining why was it stopping, I think that is an overcurrent protection or maybe the battery is not providing the current it needed. I am using my drillpro one only with original makita battery, as do have a couple of those...

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! I am glad I could provide insight! I really thought it was just a fun test and no real substance. Albeit I was surprised they managed to get the most out of the impact wrench, without leaving anything on the table.

  • @BenEyah
    @BenEyah 10 місяців тому +2

    I think you should do a test to compare them using genuine batteries as they make a massive difference from using quality cells over questionable cells

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      For sure! Although as of this moment this video will be for sometime in the future, as I do need to set aside a budget for two new genuine Makita batteries and a charger. As I don't have any Makita batteries at all!

  • @andreasfleischmann4645
    @andreasfleischmann4645 4 місяці тому +4

    I build an makita dtw300 motor in my cheap impactwrench. Was not quite easy but i somehow managed to do it. It now has way more torque for about 66€ (including the impactwrench). The only downside ist that i dont know how long it will hold or if it will break the next time i am using it😂

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  4 місяці тому

      I would love to see that in action!

  • @smiIingman
    @smiIingman Місяць тому +3

    What is that claw-pull tool youre using in to pull out the parts to replace the spring? Looks super handy.

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  Місяць тому +1

      Hi! It is a bearing extractor. The cheapest one I could get, made by Yato, cost me about €5 I think, it is a grrat thing to have in your toolbox.

    • @smiIingman
      @smiIingman Місяць тому

      @@BrokeLifeEU big thanks

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  Місяць тому

      @@smiIingmanYou are most welcome!

  • @outsidethebox9658
    @outsidethebox9658 2 місяці тому +1

    You need to replace the cutting wheel on the angle grinder if it’s chipped like that. Compromised strength and it can snag and shatter

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  2 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely spot on! I showed it on camera, but replaced it for the cut! It is a cheap disc from aliexpress and on top of that it is damaged, it got a one way ticket to the bin.

    • @outsidethebox9658
      @outsidethebox9658 2 місяці тому +1

      Good to hear. I’ve also bought some cutting discs from Aliexpress and they smell horrible. Haven’t even used them but that’s cause I found 1mm extra thin Bahco discs in our danish version of Harbor Freight incredibly cheap. Haven’t used any others since. They cut like a knife through butter. I don’t apply much pressure and so they last me a very long time. No chipping seen yet. Recommened. Lol

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  2 місяці тому

      @@outsidethebox9658 Thank you! I will see if I can find them somewhere and give them a go. For proper good discs I always go with Bosch. Best price/performance ratio. If I am only looking for something cheap and reliable I will go with Yato for the 76mm discs. They are not amazing by any means but are cheap and will do the job.

  • @Joubert_RioAir
    @Joubert_RioAir 4 місяці тому +1

    Excelent video my brother! thanks.

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for watching and commenting I do appreciate it and it makes a difference!

  • @nighthawkflyer
    @nighthawkflyer Місяць тому +2

    You should test this impact wrench with an original Makita 5 AH Battery. Maybe the fake battery isn't able to deliver enough Amps.

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  Місяць тому +1

      For sure the fake is not capable of delivering enough power. I will invest in some genuine Makita batteries and chargers at some point, but still a bit of a pricey investment at the moment.

  • @zsoltvarga1643
    @zsoltvarga1643 5 місяців тому +3

    Nice video! thank you for testing them!

  • @amoswolfe7122
    @amoswolfe7122 10 місяців тому +1

    Looks like i won't be changing any springs.
    I have the 1200nm impact wrench from gisam and its very powerful. You should definitely try it someday.

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      I ordered the Onevan version a couple of months ago, their 1800Nm version. First impressions are that it is a very strong impact wrench for that price.
      In this case the hypothesis regarding the different springs deserved some testing. I had hopes it would end up being a good mod, unfortunately it turned out not to be so. Best case scenario on a full battery you gain 10-15Nm, but I think it will severely shorten the motor's life so it is not worth it.

    • @memutu
      @memutu 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU i think the electronics will go first, on the other hand, that board is cheap, cheap for a reson, nonetheless. Did you see how tiny that condenser is? :-) I was thinking to tweak mine also with a bigger spring but a did not know a original makita will fit. I have the drillpro one but there are somehow identical, I'm sure. I have it for two years and a half, I do use it for smaller jobs along a parkside b3 and a milwaukee gen2, still working...

    • @amoswolfe7122
      @amoswolfe7122 10 місяців тому

      @@BrokeLifeEU I'm looking forward to the review for the 1800nm.

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +2

      Yes, I think had I forced a bit more the electronics on mine would have also went the way of the Dodo. Still I think they can last as long as you don't overwork them too much. I even know of a mechanic who uses one of these daily and has done for over a year without any problems. If things get tough gets out the air tools, but if possible gets by with one of these.

    • @abusalem9499
      @abusalem9499 8 місяців тому +1

      I bought 1200nm gisam wrench its fucking great tool for the price I’m loving it also the battery’s are long lasting

  • @collegesynewave
    @collegesynewave 10 місяців тому +2

    Out of the box unmodified
    What were the highest NM values you got to?
    For example forwards/reversed?

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      On a full battery and a good day also on a boot with no rust and that has just been installed. 210Nm-220Nm at most. After that it is anyones guess. It might go it or it might not it will depend on the unit. A safe guess is 200Nm at most. How long it can continue doing that is still unknown. The cells in the battery are questionable at best. The tool itself looks like it can take a beating and is capable of a bit more but the battery is the the main issue holding it back.

    • @collegesynewave
      @collegesynewave 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU Thanks for that :)
      Are there alternative battery options with more longevity reliability?

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      @collegesynewave Not a problem at all! It should take a genuine Makita battery or you can just get any decent battery and use a 3D printed battery adaptor.

    • @dmitrys1393
      @dmitrys1393 9 місяців тому

      ​@@collegesynewavethere are some free 3d printing models available to make the Parkside batteries work with Makita (or wannabe-makita) tools. In my country Lidl has some promo campaigns multiple times a year selling 4h batteries for 20 euros which is awesome in my opinion. As far as I know Parkside uses Samsung cells in their batteries and if this is true then this is a great deal.

    • @nagliuxasplikis8875
      @nagliuxasplikis8875 9 місяців тому

      Splitt battery and load in high discharge rate cells will have more power then or use original makita battery should do same

  • @zvon8294
    @zvon8294 10 місяців тому +1

    Did you compare this original impact wrench with modified PS ..B3 or C3?
    Which one is more poweful?
    ... Or this will be in new movie?

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      Do you mean the green Parkside PASSK B2 with the modified B3 and C3 or the Gisam against the B3/C3 1/2"?

    • @zvon8294
      @zvon8294 10 місяців тому

      @@BrokeLifeEU PDSSAP B3 conversion to 1/2"

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      Between the B3 PDSSAP and Gisam there will be no competition. 210Nm is easy for the Parkside and and a 50-50 shot for the Gisam. Even the green PASSK B2 brushed Parkside is a lot better at 210Nm than the Gisam.

  • @dmitrys1393
    @dmitrys1393 9 місяців тому +1

    Would be interesting to see if this gisam (or any other dtw300 clone) with good batteries (original ones or parkside with adapter) can compete with parkside 400nm

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  9 місяців тому

      Stay tuned! 😉

    • @dmitrys1393
      @dmitrys1393 9 місяців тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU waiting for the new videos! oh and of course the dtw700 chinese clone is also interesting to compare with Parkside 400nm and 1/2-converted pdssap ;)

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  9 місяців тому +2

      Hello again. Regarding this topic I uploaded a video today about a ONEVAN right angle impact which I test with their battery which is a 20V 4Ah with questionable cells and the 8Ah 20V Parkside battery. It's not like the results were surprising, but still.

  • @honda4004
    @honda4004 9 місяців тому +1

    Do you think gisam are a usable daily tool 1800nm sounds a little exaggerated

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  9 місяців тому +2

      I have the 1800Nm version. I can confirm it ia nowhere bear that. But it can take off rusty bolts from a 4x4 that have nit been remived in years. So for use in cars I would say it is good enough. If you ise it with a decent battery it should be even better!

  • @xtp6969
    @xtp6969 10 місяців тому +1

    First time I did this modification in 2020, when TopShak starts. Try to use 6Ah original Makita battery, that will be another 'mod', than you will see total difference. I tried to modified larger of wrench version with spring from DTW700, but there it was bad mod, after that spring wrench was much weaker :-\

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      I was actually surprised by how on the edge they managed to engineer it! I thought they would leave some room just to be sure. But it seems like they managed to fit the tightest spring thy could without scarfing on anything. I hope my video budget will allow me at some point to get to a genuine Makita battery! The spring in this case was something like 3 EUR and the anvil another 3 EUR so I wanted to see if I could get squeeze some more torque out of the Gisam for as little as possible.

    • @xtp6969
      @xtp6969 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU you need to try that clone of DTW700, that is very good wrench and with 6ah (6ah is really stronger than any other, like 5ah for example), I tried it and loose 1300Nm

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      I have the Onevan version! I have had it for about 2-3 months now. I don't have the time to get to it or a proper way to test it yet...I am working on it though! It does feel quite strong, not even for the price. It feels strong in general!

    • @xtp6969
      @xtp6969 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU I tried every brand of them, Kamolee is more 'smooth' and didnt cut off like gisam or onevan in that very limit situation with BL1860, but in my opinion onevan was strongest, but it cutted off in torque more than 1000Nm

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      For sure those things are nowhere near their torque rating. Even so I got the Onevan for something like 50EUR on sale with two batteries and a charger. It should be plenty good for any bolt or nut on a car. It's just with these Aliexpress tools the batteries charge so painfully slow that is a big discomfort for someone like me, who, can't plan out their time right.

  • @tristan_andrade
    @tristan_andrade 3 місяці тому +1

    I would like to buy an impact wrench the brushless version from the company "TOTAL" do perhaps know if it is good?

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  3 місяці тому

      I am yet to look in to Total, but every time I want to spend some money on a Total tool and I look at it to me it looks like a cheaper tool than it should be so I have not been able to prepare mentally to purchase one. I am also looking in to buying the impact wrench. They do have a couple that are interesting, however for the less powerful versions they only come with a 2ah battery which I think is on the weak side for such a tool. Which one are you looking in to purchasing?

    • @tristan_andrade
      @tristan_andrade 3 місяці тому

      @BrokeLifeEU I'm looking to purchase "model number: (TIWL12050) the 500nm brushless from TOTAL

    • @tristan_andrade
      @tristan_andrade 3 місяці тому

      I'm looking to purchase "model number: (TIWLI12050) it's rated 500nm, its brushless and comes with 2 4ah batteries

  • @antonius3301
    @antonius3301 10 місяців тому +2

    There Are this modify for parkside performance impact wrench?

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      Could be, as long as the new spring is roughly the right size it can be done.

    • @antonius3301
      @antonius3301 10 місяців тому +1

      Is possible found a correct spring or a spring with the same size but more long or powerful?

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      I can look in to it, however if Gisam managed to figure out the best spring for their impact mechanism I doubt I can improve the Parkside.

    • @antonius3301
      @antonius3301 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU However, I imagined you already showed me enough how to modify it, I think that would be enough😂👍

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +2

      @@antonius3301 🤣🤣🤣 fair point! So enough with the modification videos for now!

  • @DavidSeoane-h5z
    @DavidSeoane-h5z 4 місяці тому +2

    So, Parkside or Gisam?

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  4 місяці тому +1

      100% Parkside, but not because of the bare tool. Because of the warranty and much much better battery system.

  • @bonjour7383
    @bonjour7383 8 місяців тому

    What is more strong gisam or parkside?

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  8 місяців тому

      In this case the Parkside. Not even close.

  • @Slic-Rock
    @Slic-Rock 10 місяців тому +1

    Hello can you select all the modes. Mode 1 one LED Mode 2 Two LED & Mode 3 all three LED's.
    My unit has a, weird display. Wonder if your is doing the same things.

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      Hello! Thank you for commenting! SO I have checked both these Gisam impacts and the LEDs behave just as you describe. They are a bit weird you are right, however since it does not have too much power I usually just set it to LARGE (max power) and leave it there. The way I read the LED indicators in forward one says SMALL and the other LARGE. Small might be for screws (using the 1/4" hex) and Large for bolts/nuts using the 1/2" drive square. I hope I am being helpful here. I don't really use these a lot.

  • @AmbooshTV
    @AmbooshTV 10 місяців тому +1

    Интересное решение🤔, поставить пружину от оригинала...

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      Это была интересная идея, поэтому мне пришлось ее проверить. К сожалению, неутешительные результаты.

    • @AmbooshTV
      @AmbooshTV 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU Вы молодец 🤝 Решение поменять некоторые детали мне понравилось. Буду знать, в будущем, что детали подходят.

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      Спасибо! Возможно, есть источник лучше, которого я не нашел.

  • @sergeydudich9108
    @sergeydudich9108 Місяць тому +1

    Max 250nm

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  Місяць тому

      On a good day. Otherwise 210-220Nm

  • @ferfire9
    @ferfire9 10 місяців тому +1

    I have the same but not Gisam, i have other generic aliexpress impact wrench and i think the battery is lower quality than yours, i cant lose any lug nuts in any car, it probably has no more than 70 NM, i am thinking about modifying the battery, ditching these crap cells and put there some Sony/Murata 25 to 30 Amps instead. I dont know if that is possible, not sure if the BMS will hold in this crap

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      I am not surprised I doubt for this price they have any quality control. Anything that is assembled and looks like it should is ready to be shipped most probably. It is very hit and miss buying tools from Aliexpress as you don't have a genuine return option so they'll just send you something and you have to hope for the best. Regarding the batteries I have not tested this myself, but I do see in the comments many people do say that better batteries make a difference on these.

    • @ferfire9
      @ferfire9 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU makita as uses Sony murata cells from 15 to 35 amps of discharge which means depending on the configuration (3ah, 4ah, etc ) it can deliver power bursts of up to 1300w. These cells are expensive as you can imagine, mines should not be anything close to them as the battery itself was a 12 euro option extra and with 12 euro you barely buy one or two quality high discharge cell …that’s why it can’t move any nut

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      Yes, although I was surprised to find that the Gisam batteries have two rows of 5 cells and that they are in fact around the 4Ah mark. They are decent for the price. Although as no warranty claim can be made on these tools a bit on the risky side. And the charging is painfully slow! @@ferfire9

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely on your side on this one! It's just I was not expecting to get any sort of power at all. And it has some.

    • @ferfire9
      @ferfire9 10 місяців тому +2

      @@BrokeLifeEUyou got better luck than me. 😅 I almost can stop the impact driver with my own hands, that’s how weak it is, measured the voltage and was 19,9V.

  • @MrErozZ
    @MrErozZ Місяць тому +3

    Parkside won😮

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  Місяць тому +1

      The new PASSK C2 is actually even better than the B2 in the video.

    • @israelsantos7838
      @israelsantos7838 Місяць тому

      ​@@BrokeLifeEU Pasa el link del nuevo parkside

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  Місяць тому

      @@israelsantos7838 PASSK C2
      www.lidl.de/p/parkside-20-v-akku-drehschlagschrauber-passk-20-li-c2-ohne-akku-und-ladegeraet/p100379116

  • @davidfps18
    @davidfps18 10 місяців тому +1

    Both brands made in china but one at least designed in germany (i think)

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому +1

      The Parkside is a lot more expensive and it feels better built but I guess that comes down to price. Surely Gisam could have made better moulds and smoother edges, but it would have cost more.

  • @aarondavies8486
    @aarondavies8486 Місяць тому +1

    Dwt500 is far better the 3/4 gisam is amazing

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  Місяць тому

      I have been looking at the 3/4“ anvil stuff from Gisam/One an etc for a while now. Just waiting for some cash and a tractor I can test it on.

    • @aarondavies8486
      @aarondavies8486 Місяць тому +1

      @BrokeLifeEU aliexpress is best place and cheapest to be honest onevan and gisam both have a gen2 out now 3 speeds forwards 2 backwards the 3/4 gisam is very similar but bigger hammer and obvious bigger anvil same 3 speed forwards and 2 backwards

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  Місяць тому

      @@aarondavies8486 I am not liking the way this is going, because you are pushing me in the way of spending too much money yet again 😅😅😅

  • @Ivan-sm1dk
    @Ivan-sm1dk 10 місяців тому

    I won't be doing that to mine 🤣

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  10 місяців тому

      Good idea! Leave it as it is. I did it just to test a hypothesis.

  • @jacktroli
    @jacktroli 7 місяців тому +1

    Like

  • @zefautino
    @zefautino 10 місяців тому +1

    I bet you put a parkshit on the thumbnail to get my attention. 😆😆

  • @GabrielZuniga-z6n
    @GabrielZuniga-z6n 5 місяців тому

    Stop wasting money on these overpriced no name tools. Just get the hyper tough cheaper then all these tools and gets the job done

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  5 місяців тому

      Unfortunately I can’t seem to find the Hyper Tough

    • @Yourallcnuts
      @Yourallcnuts 4 місяці тому

      What are they. For most diyers these cheap ones are fine. You dont need to spend hundreds

    • @dovydas4036
      @dovydas4036 3 місяці тому

      What is hyper tough and where to find it

    • @BrokeLifeEU
      @BrokeLifeEU  3 місяці тому

      It is a brand of tools found in the USA 🇺🇸 mostly. They are not bad for the price.

    • @dovydas4036
      @dovydas4036 3 місяці тому +1

      @@BrokeLifeEU Ahh, sadly i am not from america. Wish there were good brands in Europe for that