Kraton 8s Unboxing and Review
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- In this video we get to unbox the V2 Kraton 8s RTR from Arrma. We go over the workings of the massive machine before taking it out and testing it in the way we like best. AJ walks you through the new 1/5th scale truck and lets you see the testing for yourself as the Kraton 8s is put through it's paces. Running side by side with the Xmaxx from Traxxas, we get to see how they stack up against one another. Come along as we show you what this machine is, and how it stacks up.
Music:
MixKit, Party Robot
Ethan Meisxell, Start your Engines
Epidemic Sound:
Sven Lindvall, Coming Closer
Carvings, Sooner than you know
Dissidence, Fix my head
Basixx, The Chase
Tigerblood Jewel, Behind the line
Your production quality is incredible brother. You deserve a ton of viewers!!!
Thank you. Our team here appreciates the comment. 😎👍
I'm from two years in the future, you didn't wait long enough my friend, we now have the Kraton 8s EXB BLX V2/RTR
Well…I’m looking forward to its release.
Oh no! A beast! That’s the only one I have not bought. I may next spring. I’ll see how you like it after a few months of torture. Your very in-depth with your honest opinion and real world experience with the rc’s. Thank you! It really helps deciding if people should buy it. Great job my friend!!!!🏆
Thank you. 😎👍
Love your videos, you always keep things so real. I have been so torn for days between the Sledge and this and I think your videos have made me lean heavily towards the 8s Kraton.
Both rigs run out well but the issues, which are few, with the Sledge also make me favor the Kraton 8s. By the way, the Kraton is number one for the channel at the moment. Thanks for commenting 😎👍
@@AJJAMStudios Thank you for making great informative content! Just ordered my 8s Kraton! Cant wait to rip it! Do you still runt the stock pinion gear or have you went up teeth?
Still stock and it’s a blast. Thanks for asking 😎👍
15:25 18 minute runtime! That’s awesome!
Always detailed honest reviews. Some of the best on youtube. Nice work!
Love to see this! I bought the Kraton 8S EXB roller a few months ago and stuck a Castle XLX2 and 800kV motor in it. Currently running 30/39 gearing with some M2C parts added in. It’s bulletproof and such a beast, and it flies so much better than anything I have.
It’s night and day compared to my X-MAXX that won’t stay running and has had a massive amount of aftermarket parts added to beef it up. It’s ESC just cut out again today, so come Monday morning I’ll be sending it back to Traxxas for the second time. I have a Hobbywing Max6 for it as well but it’s fan just died so it’s going back to Hobbywing at the same time. Such as shame.
It is a shame, and yet, kind of par for the course for the Xmaxx, or so I understand. I guess part of it is how we handle these machines. Huge jumps with large amounts of weight will always cause problems. That's the price we pay for the thrill of it all. But I think each rig has its ups and downs. The Xmaxx is the original King Basher, but there are new kids on the block, namely Arrma and Losi, who are overtaking that aging monster. I can't wait to see where the new tech takes us. Keep on bashing my friend. AJ
I've seen almost every kraton 8s video on youtube in the last few days and weeks. Now I've seen your video and I know 100% that I need to buy a kraton 8s. Very, very good and informative video that made me order the kraton. You got a new subscriber! Greetings from Germany
Wow, thanks! I greatly appreciate that. 😎👍
Thanks for all the helpful information, I've gone back and forth. XMaxx 8s or Kraton 8s , I'm going with the Kraton because I won't be jumping, Or flipping. I'm happy with high speed runs on smooth surfaces grass, pavement etc. And I feel that the Kraton is better at that. Thanks again sir...
Glad to help. Thanks for letting us help you choose. 😎👍
So love your energy you put into all your vids 👏
Keep up the good work 👍👌👍
Thank you! Will do! 😎👍
Back in love with Outcast 8S, after a few upgrades, RPM arms, M2C racing steering rack and a must a is a Max 5 esc, I was a true Arrma fan boy but? to many diff issues for me to sell most of my Arrma fleet from 11 and now down to 4 Arrma trucks left, along with the price of RTR trucks going up I have now gone back to buying quality race kite's, TEKNO ,Losi .Kyosho.
It's a shame you feel that way. I get it though, the cost is going up and reliability issues can bum a guy out, but I think the quality is also getting better as time goes on. RnD takes time, and Arrma, along with Losi, seems to be listening to us. Each time we begin modding these machines, they seem to integrate a lot of those changes in the next generation of their trucks and cars. It's just the way I see it. However, I don't have any Tekno rigs, but I do know the others pretty well. Tell me, what is it you like about Tekno, and which one is your favorite? Also, what is the parts availability like? Thanks for the input. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios Hi, to be honest I still like the Arrma brand but there over priced for what they are, my first Outcast 6S was £365 and now the EXB versions RRP is £800 but we can get it for £789 lol for a RTR lol, you still may have to M2C it lol, gone back to buying quality race kite's in stead, loving TEKNO RC right now as they offer top quality for the money, there MT410 was my first Tekno and I should had got this truck years ago, it handles like a dream and you don't need tones of upgrades if you want to send it to the moon, Tekno's origenal ET.48 I use for bash racing as its' super durable, the new ET,48/ 2,0 is just for racing, and my all rounder is the MT 48, so a cross between the MT410 while using the ET48 chassis, for me the best around racer/bashing rig I've got, I've taken the most wins out of a group I started, around 50 in the group and around 10 to 12 members come out each weekend to bash race, Iv'e owned at least 75 rc cars , 11 rc boats and 7 heli, moving home soon from London England to Germany in the next few weeks, got my first Corally Radix 6 and turned it into a hybrid using parts from the Arrma Mojave, I run a few Arrma FB pages.
All good stuff, thanks for sharing that with us here. Tekno is just something we haven't gotten into yet, and perhaps we will in time. I'm curious...which FB pages? I'm a member of a few myself but I don't run them, I just check in from time to time to see what's going on within the community. You know, our community is surprisingly big and diverse. I'm glad you have taken an interest in sharing with the rest of us, as information is a precious commodity now a days, especially with all of the new people coming into the hobby. I hope you have a safe trip back home. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios Hi AJ, FB page , Arrma Mojave 6s, changed my other page from Arrma Outcast Uk to MOR66 RC as I wanted to cover other brands of RC or what ever interests me , RC Body shop, I really like your reviews as I find them honest .
@@AJJAMStudios As soon as i took one look at a Tekno i wanted to sell all of my traxxas stuff. Absolutely perfect RCs
Boy you had this beast screaming like a prom queen having a bad hair day !!!!! Congrats on your new addition to your herd….. My only negative about any 5 scale Basher is that you have to have the skill set to handle this …I’m guessing 20lbs+ RC…. It did perform Gr8 for you but any bad landing because of the weight… it’s just gonna break….. that just goes with what we do…..
Gr8 content…… thanks for sharing…..☮️~~~> Out!!👍🏻😎
True that. There is a necessary skill set for driving the larger cars. I'm not saying I'm great or anything, but I get by. Watching a noob try and handle an 8th scale car is dangerous, yet still funny most of the time. But hand one a 5th scale rig and I'm out. Danger and breakage are both part of this large scale hobby. Thanks for the comment. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios anytime…..👍🏻
@@pitbullrcltd6252 yep its so true at first i messed it was 5th scale .that why i sound dumb .lol
Read on a forum that Arrma is the first British "car" company with quality and that is well put together.
Don't know how much Americans know about British car industri, but in Europe, British cars have a ridiculously bad reputation, at least historically.
Funny comment i wanted to chere
I did not know that. Thanks for sharing. 😎👍
Great to see the text in the intro. It is so important to mention this. I know you were fully aware of this. I hope i was able to add to the awareness in my previous comments to you. Thank you for this! But apart from that, we should really enjoy our vehicles and it has to be said that this is one of the few channels where real in-depth information is given for a variety of vehicles, thanks to the expertise of the channel-owner!
Your kind words are appreciated. Thanks from all who work on this channel. 👍
@@AJJAMStudios AJ, off-topic question:
I want to buy a 5th-scale basher.
I can't decide between the Arrma kraton 8s 1/5 or Losi DBXL-E 1/5.
Since you've examined both, can you give your thoughts about this?
Thanks!
Both are tough cars. As far as the Kraton goes, I would recommend the EXB version, it has upgrades that are supposed to make it more durable than the stock version. The Losi has more length to it than the Kraton. Both are good rigs. However, upgrades will be necessary for both. The Losi has weak chassis braces and the Kraton stock version would benefit from a better chassis. Run time is less for 1/5th scale. Bottom line, the one you dig is the one you should get. Best of luck choosing. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios Thanks AJ! Much appreciated!
Any time. 😎👍
That is such a gigantic truck! Man I wish I had a place to have more RC trucks. Thanks for showing your new toy👍. -remember to WD40 those plastics so they'll be more resistant to breakage or cracking.
That disclaimer, I really felt that after running myself down with my Mojave😱on Friday..
Very dumb but I got super lucky, no broken bones. I'm just banged up pretty good😂 and broke my radio.
I'm glad you survived. These things can be dangerous, so caution and the proper room to run are always the order of the day. That being said, fast is cool. Thanks for the comment. Keep on bashing. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios thanks AJ👍
I bought the exact same color. It’s by far the heaviest truck in my lineup. Don’t know why they didn’t include the front bumper so I bought one. Only problem I had was the pinion gear popping off from factory. Nothing a little lock tight didn’t solve.
Perfect 😎👍
I may be wrong and probably am could have been the camera angle totally 😅. But it looked like both your front shock rods were bent ever so slightly. Probably the camera that thing is a beast. Think l see a outcast ExB 8s under the tree for myself!! Great video man!.
Great catch. I rechecked them and they are bent, but ever so slightly. It does not seem to interfere with the function of the suspension, but they are bent. I did not catch that at first. Thanks for paying attention. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios mine had bent shocks out of the box. But in New Xiland you don't have much luck on warranty
Ours didn’t even come with a warranty card. Curious, no?
Wow!Cool!
Cool video
Lots of fun!
Thanks 😎👍
Looking forward to the brutal review!
Me too 😎👍
I love my k8 that's awsome it .are #1 in my opinion k8 rules I had a xmaxx 8s one month had a mystery click tore it down rebuild it an still did it sold it an bought a k8
I think both trucks have their charms. The Xmaxx is bulky feeling but powerful, while the Kraton is more precise and performance based. Gotta' love that Kraton. AJ
It was probably the drive shaft on the Xmaxx🤷
@@surfside75 no I stripped the whole xmaxx down
Brilliant rig good stuff 👍
I agree. Great rig. Thanks for the comment. AJ
Somehow UA-cam videos don’t accurately convey the actual size of very large/small cars. All videos not just yours. Maybe if you hold it in front of you or show it in a known place like a car seat? I have the EXB version of this and it’s massive!
I did hold it up for all to see and I explained how big I am, but I see your point. However, you should get some idea of how big it is when you see it in the local hobby store. You bought the EXB, which is a roller, correct? When you see the box for the RTR the size should become apparent. Good comment, my friend. Thanks. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios I had buyer’s remorse soon after I bought the Kraton because of low cell voltage alarms using Spektrum Smart batteries. Alarms in the first 10 seconds of use! I also had some overheating. I decided to buy an XMaxx for less drama. Now with SMC batteries and slightly lower gearing my Kraton issues are behind me and I love it. Now it’s the XMaxx that I’m thinking of selling. I only have soccer fields to run on and it’s a little disappointing. I’ve been looking at your ramp videos with great interest to add some excitement!
Hey AJ! Awesome review as always. Would you say getting the EXB roller instead of the rtr is worth it? I probably won’t be bashing as hard as you guys do but the extra toughness from the EXB is pretty tempting if you know what I mean. Anyway, love the content man!
Tougher is usually better even if you aren’t going to bash that hard. It’s your choice. Let us know which one you choose. Awesome 😎👍
@@AJJAMStudios hey Aj! Ended up going with the EXB, that $200 off deal Horizon had was way too good to pass… I wanted to ask you which battery capacity you would recommend? I only have one 4S which is 5000mah so would be easier to just get another of the same but I’m worried it would be too short of a run time? What would you recommend for at least 15 min of run time?
@@fmc7209 get zee 4s 9000 lipos bro.
Im pumped for this but i got a dbxl cuz of you, lol this might be an expensive video for me!
It was an expensive one for me too. Still, glad I got it, LOL. AJ
Great review! Is it visibly bigger in person than the xmaxx 8s?
Sorry for the delay in responding. The Kraton 8s is wider by a couple of inches, but similar in length. The Xmaxx is taller and feels more like a monster truck, while the Kraton is lower to the ground and has that high performance feel to it. Both are awesome. Both are fast. But straight out of the box with absolutely no mods, the Kraton is faster. The plastic chassis of the Xmaxx is durable, but suffers from high impacts - like skate park jumping. The Kraton suffers from this too, but is pretty durable overall. We did wind up switching to the Kraton 8s EXB chassis for higher durability. Overall, I would say they both have their place within the hobby. The Kraton is 1/5th scale while the Xmaxx is classified as 1/6th scale. The trick is, go get a close look at both trucks if you can, and then pick the one that calls to you. Either way, you can't go wrong. I hope this helps. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios Thanks for the detailed reply :)
this sure does look tough I have a number of 1/8 scales from Redcat hobao and Kyosho up to now they have all needed aftermarket parts for me its what you get for your money most of these big trucks have diff issues and you end up pouring a ton of money into them this looks promising though would probably pick up a roller prefer my own electronics and not those that are forced on me nice review would like to see a long term great channel
Thank you for the comment. 😎👍
Que baterías utiliza en el vídeo?. Cuantos C de descarga?. Me encanta éste coche
Still waiting on the batteries and charger for my Kraton 8s V2. Does the Kraton come with a speed gear ? If so, Mine is missing
Mine did not come with a speed gear. I hope your batteries arrive soon 😎👍
Xmaxx vs this video? I had a Mojave but I sold it. It became a massive pain to work on when I broke things. The xmaxx I feel is designed to be easily put together. And the parts are cheap. That's why the xmaxx is the only basher I have.
I keep eyeing the losi super Baja ray 2. But I don't need it. I want it though.
How recently did you buy the X-MAXX? Give it a bit of time, it’ll start falling apart. Mine has had about $2,000 of upgrades just to keep it running. That doesn’t even include ESC and motor which are still stock.
My Kraton 8S EXB? It’s had some upgrades because I wanted to, but I’ve only broken one shock shaft and one arm due to bad landings. And it’s running a Castle XLX2 and 800kV motor with 30/39 gearing so it endures much more power, torque, and bashing.
I got my Xmaxx last December and it has been really good so far. Granted, I did have to change the arms to RPM, along with the hub carriers and captured hinge pins, but everything else seems to be holding up just fine. I think quality control at Traxxas may have some bearing on this issue, as some people lose servos, others lose the ESC, and yet others lose the diffs in one way or another. At least, Arrma is adding diff shims with some of their 6s kits now to combat the slight differences in their diff cases. It's like my father used to say...Never buy a car made on a Monday or a Friday, as the workers minds are not on their work (Weekends and hangovers). LOL Thanks for the info. AJ
Like I always say, if your car excites you, you have the right one. This video was a simple unboxing and performance test. The VS video between the Xmaxx and the Kraton is upcoming, but I need more time with the Kraton before I commit to that one. We like to be thorough, yet still keep things exciting. Thanks for sharing. AJ
@@Critical-Defense I had a Mojave exb and it was my favorite car. I loved driving it. It went soo fast.
The biggest issue for me was the rear diff always stripping. I literally got 2 new diffs. Just keep shredding them.
It was also a pain to work on. I never wanted to fix it. The dang wheel hex pins get stuck and are impossible to take out. There are like 20 screws at least just to get the bulkhead off. That and the parts are really expensive.
The Mojave was may favorite car to drive, but I HATED working on it. So unfortunately I had to sell it.
@@Critical-Defense My xmaxx is junk too. My esc died and my servo died. I was pissed at it too. I stole my max 6 from my Mojave exb before I sold it. I then had to buy another servo. And change to rpm stuff.
So ya, the xmaxx is expensive as hell to. But the xmaxx has the cheapest parts and is easy to work on. The parts are also super popular at my local hobby shop.
I ain't no fan boi. The xmaxx is not my favorite vehicle to drive. I love the realistic driving characteristics of the Mojave. But durability, eas of service, and parts are more important.
I want a bunch more RC's. Just I know all the added costs to extra random parts and the time to diagnose things are not worth it. I really want a super Baja ray 2 though. God daym.
Fantastic vid and overview. No need for the EXB version 🤑
I heard that these chassis bend super easy. With the exb, you get the stronger chassis.
I checked in on that, and the EXB chassis is supposed to fit right onto the RTR, and there are actually few upgraded parts on the EXB other than the chassis and mounting block. This could be wrong, but that's where my research led me. Let me know if there are other mods the EXB has that the RTR does not. thanks for the comments, guys. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios there’s a few bits more
The turnbuckles are thicker and the plastic ends are more beafy
The shocks have 6mm shafts and stronger lower mounts
And the A arms are stronger too
You also get the bigger servo mount option for true 1/5 scale servos along with the 39tooth option for spur gear
Questions : Based on out of the box durability and fun factor, Which R/C wins 1: The 1/8 scale Talion EXB 6s RTR Or 2: The standard 1/5 scale Kraton 8s RTR ?
Good question. Straight out of the box the Talion wins this pairing. Although the Talion did have front drive shaft issues. The Kraton 8s is also awesome if you have the V2 version but the Talion runs longer and takes crazy punishment. Thanks for asking. 😎👍
@@AJJAMStudios Thanks for the info sir.
I think you have bent shock shafts in front 15:51-15:56
Well, I finally had my first run in the backyard with the Kraton 8s, at 50% throttle . I noticed later that the front passenger wheel was loose. One of the pillow ball retainers backed out. I lost it somewhere in the yard, and the other is very loose . Could you please make a video on replacing and upgrading those retainers? I looked on arrma's site , I couldn't find that part listed. And really found nothing addressing those retainers backing out as an issue
I will definitely look into it. Here is the part number for the retainers. ARA330582. The o ring is, ARA716031. That procedure is on page 25 in your manual. I will build a video addressing this issue. Thank you😎👍
Hi bro..on your bashing footage,the kraton ran on stock geàr or speed pineon?
All of the drivetrain is out of the box stock. Stock pinion and spur gear.
@@AJJAMStudios thank's bro..
That's awesome, great video. Did you up the punch settings for this video at all?? I was thinking I made a mistake ordering mine, but after this review I'm more confident, I made the right decision. 18min on 4s 5000mah 60c batteries is great. I got my V2 5th scale Kraton 8S on the way, with a set of , SMC True Spec DV Extreme 4s 6900mah 135C batteries, & a set of HRB 4S 6000mah 50C Batteries, to start with. Is there any other upgrades you recommend, after owning it for awhile now?
No we did not change any settings in the electronics: all stock. Check out the chassis swap video, that should help. Thanks for the comment and the question. 😎👍
At 16:43 it looks like the chassis has a indent on the rear
Upon review of that section, you may be right. However, it looks minor when I flipped the car over to inspect it. Still, the damage was there and I missed it. Thanks for catching that. AJ
M2C chassis + Arrma💪
You might want the 6lug 17mm hex kit too. It's such a sweet upgrade and you'll never lose a wheel. Ever!
Outcast 8s or kraton 8s is there much of a difference ?
One significant difference is the wheelbase. The Kraton is longer and more stable and better suited for speed and performance, but it jumps and handles well too. The outcast is a short wheelbase rig and suited for stunting. Wheelies and backflips but less stability than it’s brother. 😎👍
Buddy of mine has the OUTCAST. Thing is a wheeling.
This or xrt which would you pick? Can you do a comparison video??
Wow, tough question. The Kraton 8s feels more like a performance rig to me. The XRT is also awesome, but feels a bit more like an Xmaxx mashed to the ground. Don't get me wrong, I love them both. Given the choice between one or the other...the Kraton is still number one here at the channel. Thanks for asking. P.S. we may have a video like that coming up. 😎👍
Will the kraton 8s run off in a random direction when the batteries get low ? I'm sure alot has changed in 30 years , That's an issue I had with my rc back then
That’s a fair question. The answer is no it will not. Power loss or radio signal loss will cause the vehicle to stop. No more runaway rc’s. The gas rc’s might but it is rare because of the cut off units they have now. The Kraton does not come in a gas version. Thanks for asking 😎👍
@@AJJAMStudios Thanks, It feels good to be getting back into the hobby after so long. I'm actually excited to go through the learning process all over again.
I know the feeling. I'd stepped out of the hobby for a time and it was way cool all over again with the new tech. Welcome back! 😎👍
🤙😎
Thank you. I'm glad you liked the video. AJ
i re thought it seems ok/great rig but i ant into that style. i would like a rail buggy of it a n bit longer and a roll cage type but that would be a custom build i guess
Custom builds are always possible, but there's got to be one out there to fill the bill. Good luck finding one. AJ
Losi dbxle
@@MotoRacer171 yep thanks 1199.00 but prices are going nuts thanks to obers out in la la land ..LOL ill look into it but ill bet ill not buy one new at that price unless its a real good car but exactly what i need
Hello there boss. 2 Questions if you have the money will you buy a Kraton 8s RTR V2 good as is or a Exb and hook it up yourself for more power? Second what usually are your run times with this beast?..
I bought the RTR, the video is already out. Noting the differences between the two cars, the RTR just made sense to me. By the way, I love that thing. Thanks for asking. 😎👍
I had the opportunity to by a 8 s outcast used with 2 extra batters for 800 but talked myself out of it cause I really want the Keratin 8 s I’ll be waiting for my tax refund to get it with
I think that’s a good choice. The handling is better on the Kraton. Thanks for commenting. 😎👍
hello my friend do you have thbe catalog number of this version please_? great video as ussual thank you.
I'm afraid not. This one I just pulled off the shelf and took home. Thanks for asking. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios thank you for always answer one of the best rc car channel
One outing and give review 😆
Not just one, many.
How much is it
For the question of value, you would do well to do a comparison to other cars in its class (e.g. 1/5 scale truggies).
The absolute $ is not relevant.
No sleeves on the shocks? Even the Typhon 6s has sleeves.
How or where does the Outcast 6s EXB come up on your list?
Since I do not have one, it's not on the list. Reminder, I only rate cars I own. That being said, the Outcast is a blast to stunt around with, but is too hard to enjoy doing my style of bashing. Backflips are cool, but performance is really where my heart is. Thanks for asking. AJ
@@AJJAMStudios Good info, I agree I also like a buggy to handle good. I just bought a Outcast 6s EXB and I am Very happy with it and it handles pretty good. But i do want a Kraton soon enough. Thanks for all the info...