This feels to me like an insanely huge nerf.. before the patch I was constantly* sending out boats to the 30 min ports with around 2-3k of each food with 9k dust and seemingly getting a div every other boat and doing this till I ran out of food getting like 6-12 divs a day. Since this patch came out, I've sent out millions on millions worth of ships probably like around 8m total worth of ships and have gotten 4 divines. So far this "buff" feels terrible.
It does feel like a nerf to me as well, but I did a full out all stuff boat and it was better then any other full out boat so they buffed 1 and send Ang mega nerfed small shipments
@@jokerkhrono the big shipment I did looked similar to the one you seen in league trailer, but I send like 3 days worth of mats so def not worth it versus the old small boat strategy. Seems like it only buff for people that do like 5 maps for gold don’t play for 3 days then full send.
Yea, I've just been matching the shipment value price to get double the rewards after I've played around with it a lot. To me its basically only send what the place needs and if the ports rewards for the resource is what you want add dust. For instance Ribbon Fell wants Verisium from me currently so I actually send my Dust because you get back a ton of Scarabs back. But if Ribbon Fell wants Crimson Iron I wont send any dust because I dont care about getting Str based armor. The dust cost gets pretty out of control for more benefit if you wanna get more than double because of DR.
So a misconception is that before 550 dust would give you double loot, but it didn't it merely doubled the 'shipping value' which seems to be an entirely pointless value, for the most part what dust did was giving some multiplier to loot but mostly just added a bunch of risk. Basically you'd hit diminishing returns on your goods and then the dust wouldn't actually give you much more just add more to the already diminished returns while still massively spiking the value/risk. Now what they seem to have done is actually make it so that the dust adds an independent value to your shipment, meaning that if you send a bunch of food and an equal amount of dust you get twice the value. Which is far more than you'd get before. The problem is that this isn't really apparent in small numbers and small shipments, this only really REALLY starts to shine at very large shipment sizes of several millions dust. This is mostly a nerf to small shipments with small amounts of dust (yes 8000 dust isn't a whole lot considering you can disenchant uniques for much much more, and even items generally go for 4K+) but has massive implications on large shipments.
@@I3LaCkPeArL actually it's more the opposite. Instead of having to send out shipments every 30 mins while being terminally online, they want you to send out like 1 a day
Its not even true my dear. I send out those very large ships and always get 1 divine back while sending ships with values of 1.5-3 million shipment value and equal amount of dust. I actually got a mirror shard in the first ship i sent but i recon it was only a very lucky thing. as i said i sent huge ships every or every other day and i always get exactly 1 divine in return and a few chaos and runes and stuff, nothing special. before i was getting a divine every other ship while only sending 1k crops and 8k dust xD your entire text is a waste of energy you just repeatet what GGG praised it to be but its crap and u clearly didnt test it yourself. Me all my friends and most people i talk to in the community are getting basically nothing from the ships with the exception of like a few very lucky peasants like myself who pulled a mirrorshard , but as i said it just feels like I was extremely lucky with tthat one since its like a 1 in 50 huge shipments chance or smth. (and btw 2 m dust is a divine in itself so idk about the worthness of that gamble xD) And even IF the dust wasnt working before and the shipment value was just a made up number before and didnt affect anything then its STILL a huge nerf since now you send your lifesavings and still get nothing while before you were atleast lifing cheaper and everybody would be getting the occasionally divine in their ships, and still some lucky guys did pull mirrorshards and mirrors out of it before. so yeah all in all its just shit
There is saying where i come from, its "wenn du keine ahnung hast, einfach mal die fresse halten". Basically means that if you dont know what you are talking about, just shut the f up.
hei. thanks for you work here. i saw your video when i woke up.. I found it a bit strange that your ship simply disappears with the cargo..!!!! but be careful !!! the exact same thing happened to me now. I sent the first ship on a long journey. The second on a short one. Lo and behold, when the second ship returned, the first simply disappeared with the loot and was then also in the dock.
im sending 7k of each crop and dust.. getting divines pretty consistantly. very rare none of the ships bring a divine.. and when they dont they usually bring like a spell supress tattoo worth 3 divine or something else.. also the top ship disapearing.. thought i was crazzy felt like some ships just lost all loot... ill try switch the main crew to bottom ships.... :D
Prepatch I was sending out 2k of each crop + 8k dust, and I was seeing 6-8 raw chaos on each boat, and saw exalts/annuls/divs pretty regularly. Now I'm seeing 3c or less raw chaos per boat and have barely seen any exalt/annul/divs on the ships. It seems like a big nerf to me and I am now just sending out 2 verisium bars to Riben Fell on all my boats while I stockpile crops hoping that either someone figures out a new strategy, or GGG makes a statement/hotfix of some sort.
Yeah, with my test strategy, I was getting about 3-5c per boat and sometimes items like time runes or even a divine. But after the patch, I was mostly getting fusings and other junk. I'm just stockpiling now until we see if there's another patch.
@@ytloginn need more tests but it may be full send. I did it just because it was a spicy return about 7 div in value, but also like 3 days of resources so…. Way weaker then small shipments strategy, but my guess is they want us to full send.
After patch I did a lot of ships and it's not bad, it's horrible. I don't care what people test or say it's huge nerf. Now we need to spend tons of dust to get anything. Usually league getting better with every patch but this one.... why did they do this idk
because they smoke crack and think that players having fun with plentiful currency is bad because "MUH STONKS." never forget krilson is a bean counter by trade and is obsessed with it.
@@Hans-Kortzrecombinators exist. Its how I've made several plus two amulets or like curse on hit ring plus chaos res on amethyst base They nerfed it so incredibly hard into the core of the earth
The empty ship return has happened to me twice prior this patch. No idea what’s going on. Seems running ships is now useless. Farm maps to make currency to trade for runes for weapon enchants is a better usage of time. Every ship you kit you could have run 1-2 maps. SSF is hosed.
I agree that the encounter rate seems to have increased drasticaly post this patch. I haven't even had a shipment get through without getting eaten/taxed or robbed. Hope they fix this because it feels pointless right now.
did people try it with big shipments tho? cause we're used to small and big ones giving the same stuff, and now we're comparing the little shipments to the new system and saying "this is bad"
I've tried everything between 1-10m shipments as well as the small shipments and it wasnt rewarding , as well as others have stated, their 2-4m shipments are also not rewarding.
I’ve done a few pretty big shipments (roughly 2 million) and small ones like I used to. My first big shipment had 3 divines so I was like “damn, this is pretty decent even though it cost me 1 million dust). Every big shipment after that was dog water. Now I don’t really want to ship at all and if I do, it’s only 1 boat and that’s just once every few hours. There is just no way to sustain the crops you’d need for shipments, even with complete level 10 plots. Maybe the play is to focus most of your plots on highest yield crops so you’ll actually have high quantity of a single crop to pump out. I have a feeling it’s really not the play though. 😂
I've done a couple of 2m shipments and one gave me a Divine, so I was like, "Alright, a Divine from a 2m shipment isn't the best but it's profit." But then I did like three more and got nothing. 🤣 and you're right, there's no way to sustain the amount of crops needed to send boats out regularly even with T10 farmers. It would still be like one boat every day which in my opinion is stupid.
I regularly send out shipments of 9m plus. Before patch it was closer to 20m ( was working on 50m and getting more tier 10 sailors for those huge shipments) I used to see several raw divines even mirror shards now at like 11 mil ,I get 1 divine, maybe 40c n overall 2 divs in total value
When I saw "this is a buff" I knew we're getting a massive nerf. Historically when GGG says "this is a buff" it's exactly the opposite, I think that now it's not even worth it to waste your gold on shipments anymore and just spend it on something else (currency market flipping or recombinators for example)
I got attcked by some muppets yesterday in global chat when i said that this seems like a nerf, i was happy with my 300k shipments to get a few chaos orbs and a divine like once in a few days(since i didnt rly had the time to play much). This now feels like trash, they just killed the most fun(for me) mechanic this league. (edit) i had 2 shipments lost like that also, but i was thinking im just tripping
I send out 9 mil value several times n get fuck all now. As opposed to pre patch where id get stacks id get divine 20-30m value mirror shards Now it's 1 divine ,3 at most per big shipment
@@richardmenz3257 that is because someone figured out sending out all 3 ships with 8000 dust, 10 vel bar, 200 all crop to Fell every 20mins was getting 2 time rune, and 4-5 div back every 3 hours. So its Now nerfed.
@@Eqnotalent makes sense, I noticed i was getting 1 div an hour doing what I was doing which I knew to add those bars would of prob got more div and runes.
so the only thing that can occasionaly get you divine this league was nerfed to shreds, got it. no reason to engage with league mech now. great league ggg :D
So what I got from this is your upset that you can't send tiny shipments and get divines back? Sounds reasonable...I've only noticed buffs out of it especially with very big shipments
@Hans-Kortz yes I understand that but I think the misunderstanding now is the shipment value vs dust return from what I have tested I have gotten nearly the same rewards as previous with the same small shipments where as with large shipments with large amounts of dust have consistently returned far more than previous...as for the dust situation I have never once "grinded" for dust I just consistantly pick up random junk uniques or buy any cheap tier 0 I can get and throw them in always have more than a million or two dust on hand
Okay so here is something funny, I sent everything in one shipment. Just because I was finishing the day out said the heck with it, So I sent nearly 1mil dust, 40k of each crop, 22k of each metal, and wanna know what I got in return? 3 chaos, 4 regret orbs, 10 alchemy orbs, 10 chromes, and 30 jeweler orbs. So yea I am done with this dumb ass league with micro managing gold, and resources and fuck all else. It has been nothing but a huge waste of time.
Yeah, I just did a massive shipment of over 100k of each crops with almost 200k orgords and 900k dust, and I got 2 divines. At that rate I can get 2 divines every 2-3 days.
I am still getting 1 div about every 3 shipments. One time I got 2 divs for each shipment (I would typically only have 2 boats sent out at one time). I have not been sending millions worth of shipments, but I did send a bunch of those around 200k up to 500k total shipment values (mainly like 1000 or 2000 of each type of crops, then fill the rest of the shipment value with the dust. For example, for a 30 mins boat trip, I would send 1000 for each crops, then pad it with about 200k dust).
@@jokerkhrono better luck next time. Before the patch, the most I had got for each shipment was 1 div (sub 1 mil total shipping value); After the patch, as I stated above, I got 2 div at the same time for two shipments. The cost for the dust is a lot more after patch though, if I wanted to get to somewhat close to the same total shipping value as before.
sending shipments was fun UNTIL it started to require 100 000+ ores 20k bars suuuure 20k bars aint that much but i'm out out of ores 0 0 0 0 0 go map 1 hour they get converted bars still not enough CASUALLY map 1 week to make one full shipment fuuuuuuuuuck thaaaat anyways big brain move is to buy influenced maps t14-15 and make map runners run them WHITE sell fragments and double the money you spent buying maps aight im out
the amount of resources received really should of scaled with town level if they wanted it to be like other city builders because you just dont get enough
So they nerfed the most effective strategy of sending like 1.5k of each herbs and 8k dust on cooldown, but buffed sending giggaships with everything you got once a day. So they are correct, it is a buff in most cases, but the case that everyone was doing is massively nerfed. Why do GGG always play around with words instead of being straight, it isn't rocket science.
Do we have any pictures of giga shipments giving good results, or is that just what we assume? Because I've done some shipments with like 2-3 million value and still got mostly junk. I agree, GGG should have just said they are rebalancing rewards so that larger shipments are more rewarding and smaller shipments are less, instead of saying, "in almost all cases, this is a buff from before."
@@Deucely the giga shipment get own in most cases because since the patch with 10% risk you have a negative event. Why do they have to eat the FULL SHIPMENT of crop every time ? How are they even doing it ? there's enough to feed the roman empire for a week in there
@@jokerkhrono I got 4 divs, 2 power runes and a lot of other stuff from sending a giga shipment right after the patch went live. Hard to say yet if it's overall a big buff or not, but it's definitely a big buff to huge shipments which simply weren't worth it before (unless you wanted to just minimize time spent in kingsmarch and focus on other things)
i got real annoyed with how they worded the notes and i kept shittalking shipping on my discord with my mates, and the dude kept saying it was fine, actually got into an argument that ended with me just alt f4ing out of the game for a full day. thx for ruining my friendships ggg xd all good now tho, i kinda overreacted but fuckin hell GGG why?
I agree i wish they had worded it differently when it's something that is obviously not a buff, no matter how you look at it and he "it's fine" argument gets to me too since it's clearly not, but I'm glad everything is good now. 🤣🤣
This is probably the way to go. Maybe send a massive shipment every 2-3 days just to pull the slot machine and be done with it. The issue with mapping though is that the T9-10 mappers are really expensive to come by and when they die (with 1% chance mind you), it feels like crap.
I just literally sent 2 Verisium Bars to Ngakanu to guarantee 4-9 stacked decks per ship every 30 minutes lol giga low effort lazy way of guaranteed returns for those who don't enjoy engaging with the mechanic. If you want RNG returns just use the Stacked Decks instead of selling. Have 1200 I'm gonna open up tomorrow morning in a big session
This is a huge nerf thanks for the video. Is reddit even complaining about it yet? I was having a blast playing this league but now the demand out ways me trying to farm enough gold and mats to keep things going for the reward. *if you get any reward
No problem 😁. I'm honestly shocked that Reddit hasn't said anything about it yet because it is a really noticeable change. Sadly, I agree that this league is a lot grindier than I was hoping it would be
I agree. I like running maps but there are some days I just want to lab if it’s a good layout but if I do that for a whole day, my town will shut down. I feel like I almost never have gold because I’m always having to bank it for farmers. I’ve also spent millions in high quality rerolls and I’ve only seen 3 level 8 mappers and 1 level 9. I feel like I’m alway in dire need of gold.
I can't play right now, but I think people invested too much on the town expecting something that wasn't there. I always kept it at bare minimum just to get some gear at the start and bubblegum currency. When a league mechanic is actually profitable, streamers actually use it endgame like affliction or allflames. The town was never meant to be a big source of currency and people who expected it to be are the most frustrated at the end. GGG would never make a "passive" source of income be time efficient - although the auxtion house is xloser to that than the whole town itself. But yeah, shipping was never meant to be a big source of income, but as a mix to help you start and get runes mostly. Currency is bonus.
It's absolutely nerfed to the ground, so no loot on the ground, no loot on the ships , poe in the trash been I had more than enough and this was last drop.
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historically when GGG in its patch notes state somethign in the lines "...for most cases..." we have allways seen it as an euphenism for "its a nerf"
you know whats funny i didnt even think of that until now but it is kinda true 🤣
Honestly I bet most noobs just send like everything out. They probably aren't lying, but yeah, you get punished for min maxing now.
This feels to me like an insanely huge nerf.. before the patch I was constantly* sending out boats to the 30 min ports with around 2-3k of each food with 9k dust and seemingly getting a div every other boat and doing this till I ran out of food getting like 6-12 divs a day. Since this patch came out, I've sent out millions on millions worth of ships probably like around 8m total worth of ships and have gotten 4 divines. So far this "buff" feels terrible.
It does feel like a nerf to me as well, but I did a full out all stuff boat and it was better then any other full out boat so they buffed 1 and send Ang mega nerfed small shipments
@@richardmenz3257 i guess im saving up for full shipments
yeah its weird it seems like youre getting less loot overall too
@@jokerkhrono the big shipment I did looked similar to the one you seen in league trailer, but I send like 3 days worth of mats so def not worth it versus the old small boat strategy. Seems like it only buff for people that do like 5 maps for gold don’t play for 3 days then full send.
@@richardmenz3257 they have to know people are gonna hate that
Yeah, anyone saying it was a buff is insane. I have been sending out shipments that usually got me 1-4 divs on average and haven't had any divs yet.
im really hoping GGG post either a response or a hotfix soon
we need a reddit post "Ship Buffs were too strong, we need to revert back to the nerfed state" XDDDDD
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@@metaslavegaming9075 I like your strategy
Oh, the missing ship thing has been happening. It came back with nothing, no msg. Just empty
ooo cool... love that i wonder if they plan on fixing it lol
@@jokerkhrono I thought I was smoking something for forget to click send. But all my resource are gone.
@@Eqnotalent 🤣 same i was like "did i forget to send a ship?" but after it happened like 3 more times im like "ooo its just a bug."
Yea, I've just been matching the shipment value price to get double the rewards after I've played around with it a lot. To me its basically only send what the place needs and if the ports rewards for the resource is what you want add dust. For instance Ribbon Fell wants Verisium from me currently so I actually send my Dust because you get back a ton of Scarabs back. But if Ribbon Fell wants Crimson Iron I wont send any dust because I dont care about getting Str based armor. The dust cost gets pretty out of control for more benefit if you wanna get more than double because of DR.
@@illfate757 this might actually be the play ive heard fulfilling shipments is giving decent rewards now
So a misconception is that before 550 dust would give you double loot, but it didn't it merely doubled the 'shipping value' which seems to be an entirely pointless value, for the most part what dust did was giving some multiplier to loot but mostly just added a bunch of risk. Basically you'd hit diminishing returns on your goods and then the dust wouldn't actually give you much more just add more to the already diminished returns while still massively spiking the value/risk.
Now what they seem to have done is actually make it so that the dust adds an independent value to your shipment, meaning that if you send a bunch of food and an equal amount of dust you get twice the value. Which is far more than you'd get before.
The problem is that this isn't really apparent in small numbers and small shipments, this only really REALLY starts to shine at very large shipment sizes of several millions dust.
This is mostly a nerf to small shipments with small amounts of dust (yes 8000 dust isn't a whole lot considering you can disenchant uniques for much much more, and even items generally go for 4K+) but has massive implications on large shipments.
So they balanced the game around top 1 % of the players and the streamers again, instead of for casuals...got it.
@@I3LaCkPeArL actually it's more the opposite. Instead of having to send out shipments every 30 mins while being terminally online, they want you to send out like 1 a day
Its not even true my dear. I send out those very large ships and always get 1 divine back while sending ships with values of 1.5-3 million shipment value and equal amount of dust. I actually got a mirror shard in the first ship i sent but i recon it was only a very lucky thing. as i said i sent huge ships every or every other day and i always get exactly 1 divine in return and a few chaos and runes and stuff, nothing special. before i was getting a divine every other ship while only sending 1k crops and 8k dust xD your entire text is a waste of energy you just repeatet what GGG praised it to be but its crap and u clearly didnt test it yourself. Me all my friends and most people i talk to in the community are getting basically nothing from the ships with the exception of like a few very lucky peasants like myself who pulled a mirrorshard , but as i said it just feels like I was extremely lucky with tthat one since its like a 1 in 50 huge shipments chance or smth. (and btw 2 m dust is a divine in itself so idk about the worthness of that gamble xD)
And even IF the dust wasnt working before and the shipment value was just a made up number before and didnt affect anything then its STILL a huge nerf since now you send your lifesavings and still get nothing while before you were atleast lifing cheaper and everybody would be getting the occasionally divine in their ships, and still some lucky guys did pull mirrorshards and mirrors out of it before. so yeah all in all its just shit
There is saying where i come from, its "wenn du keine ahnung hast, einfach mal die fresse halten".
Basically means that if you dont know what you are talking about, just shut the f up.
hei. thanks for you work here. i saw your video when i woke up.. I found it a bit strange that your ship simply disappears with the cargo..!!!! but be careful !!! the exact same thing happened to me now. I sent the first ship on a long journey. The second on a short one. Lo and behold, when the second ship returned, the first simply disappeared with the loot and was then also in the dock.
@@DrPepperCH yeah be careful the first ship can just disappear
im sending 7k of each crop and dust.. getting divines pretty consistantly. very rare none of the ships bring a divine.. and when they dont they usually bring like a spell supress tattoo worth 3 divine or something else.. also the top ship disapearing.. thought i was crazzy felt like some ships just lost all loot... ill try switch the main crew to bottom ships.... :D
Prepatch I was sending out 2k of each crop + 8k dust, and I was seeing 6-8 raw chaos on each boat, and saw exalts/annuls/divs pretty regularly. Now I'm seeing 3c or less raw chaos per boat and have barely seen any exalt/annul/divs on the ships. It seems like a big nerf to me and I am now just sending out 2 verisium bars to Riben Fell on all my boats while I stockpile crops hoping that either someone figures out a new strategy, or GGG makes a statement/hotfix of some sort.
Yeah, with my test strategy, I was getting about 3-5c per boat and sometimes items like time runes or even a divine. But after the patch, I was mostly getting fusings and other junk. I'm just stockpiling now until we see if there's another patch.
@@ytloginn need more tests but it may be full send. I did it just because it was a spicy return about 7 div in value, but also like 3 days of resources so…. Way weaker then small shipments strategy, but my guess is they want us to full send.
After patch I did a lot of ships and it's not bad, it's horrible. I don't care what people test or say it's huge nerf. Now we need to spend tons of dust to get anything. Usually league getting better with every patch but this one.... why did they do this idk
yeah this patch seems to of missed the mark by like a mile
because they smoke crack and think that players having fun with plentiful currency is bad because "MUH STONKS." never forget krilson is a bean counter by trade and is obsessed with it.
So that the dust gets used more :)
@@Hans-Kortzrecombinators exist. Its how I've made several plus two amulets or like curse on hit ring plus chaos res on amethyst base
They nerfed it so incredibly hard into the core of the earth
The empty ship return has happened to me twice prior this patch. No idea what’s going on. Seems running ships is now useless. Farm maps to make currency to trade for runes for weapon enchants is a better usage of time. Every ship you kit you could have run 1-2 maps. SSF is hosed.
@@essteefyou5756 yeah the fact that a bug as big as a ship eating your shipment hasn't been addressed is crazy
Getting the boss is actually a good thing...
ive been getting only bubblegum loot and ive been maxing out all the needs - mad nerf to shipping
@@xmajesticfaithx5587 same I've tried 100k -4m ships and have yet to get anything
I agree that the encounter rate seems to have increased drasticaly post this patch. I haven't even had a shipment get through without getting eaten/taxed or robbed. Hope they fix this because it feels pointless right now.
Yeah, shipments don't feel worth doing at all right now. I'm just going to save my resources in hopes of a buff... again, I guess lol
did people try it with big shipments tho? cause we're used to small and big ones giving the same stuff, and now we're comparing the little shipments to the new system and saying "this is bad"
I've tried everything between 1-10m shipments as well as the small shipments and it wasnt rewarding , as well as others have stated, their 2-4m shipments are also not rewarding.
I’ve done a few pretty big shipments (roughly 2 million) and small ones like I used to. My first big shipment had 3 divines so I was like “damn, this is pretty decent even though it cost me 1 million dust). Every big shipment after that was dog water. Now I don’t really want to ship at all and if I do, it’s only 1 boat and that’s just once every few hours. There is just no way to sustain the crops you’d need for shipments, even with complete level 10 plots. Maybe the play is to focus most of your plots on highest yield crops so you’ll actually have high quantity of a single crop to pump out. I have a feeling it’s really not the play though. 😂
I've done a couple of 2m shipments and one gave me a Divine, so I was like, "Alright, a Divine from a 2m shipment isn't the best but it's profit." But then I did like three more and got nothing. 🤣 and you're right, there's no way to sustain the amount of crops needed to send boats out regularly even with T10 farmers. It would still be like one boat every day which in my opinion is stupid.
I regularly send out shipments of 9m plus.
Before patch it was closer to 20m ( was working on 50m and getting more tier 10 sailors for those huge shipments)
I used to see several raw divines even mirror shards now at like 11 mil ,I get 1 divine, maybe 40c n overall 2 divs in total value
1st shipment is good just like daily rewards in mobile bulsheep
sadly i could see that being a thing lol but ive yet to get anything good
When I saw "this is a buff" I knew we're getting a massive nerf. Historically when GGG says "this is a buff" it's exactly the opposite, I think that now it's not even worth it to waste your gold on shipments anymore and just spend it on something else (currency market flipping or recombinators for example)
100% agree ive just been using my gold for recombinators and the currency exchange because they are actually rewarding
seems like they put a decimal in the wrong place
they did something wrong lol
It's a massive nerf and they basically gaslight us by saying it's a buff.
Exactly
I got attcked by some muppets yesterday in global chat when i said that this seems like a nerf, i was happy with my 300k shipments to get a few chaos orbs and a divine like once in a few days(since i didnt rly had the time to play much). This now feels like trash, they just killed the most fun(for me) mechanic this league. (edit) i had 2 shipments lost like that also, but i was thinking im just tripping
@@FilipVucurovic yeah some people refuse to admit ggg can ever make a mistake even tho they are only human lol
Really sucks I can't run mappers anymore because they won't stop dying
they seem to be dying way more often huh
I just sent 5k everything and 2 million dust got 8 div, its a buff to the high end.
I send out 9 mil value several times n get fuck all now. As opposed to pre patch where id get stacks id get divine 20-30m value mirror shards
Now it's 1 divine ,3 at most per big shipment
To not lose high level mappers have one lvl 8 or 9 in the team. Since the lowest level always dies.
@@bruvkek4629 good to know I'll have to try that
Small boats ever 30 mins was massively nerfed. If you full send everything it is better now then in the past, but overall so much weaker.
i guess time to stockpile resources and wait for another buff... again
@@richardmenz3257 that is because someone figured out sending out all 3 ships with 8000 dust, 10 vel bar, 200 all crop to Fell every 20mins was getting 2 time rune, and 4-5 div back every 3 hours. So its
Now nerfed.
@@Eqnotalent makes sense, I noticed i was getting 1 div an hour doing what I was doing which I knew to add those bars would of prob got more div and runes.
The amount of money you have to spend to keep up with new dust requirements makes it all seem super pointless.
@@rfo98b yeah the amount you have to send right now is like 450k every 30min which means you have to get a lucky div back to make profit
Umm it might be just me but I’ve gotten 7/7 divines from the ships sending pumpkins and dust.. random amounts
hmm ive gotten 1 divine in like 30 shipments maybe i am just getting super unlucky. random amounts like whatever you have?
@@jokerkhrono pretty much a couple thousand of both farm and dust when I can remember
I had my ship come back with nothing once as well.
@@Raidur7215 was it your top ship too? Cause apparently it's a known bug
@jokerkhrono Can't exactly recall, but I think so. I thought maybe I canceled it by accident until you mentioned it.
@@Raidur7215 honestly im holding off on sending boats for right now after seeing the bug and the loot nerf
Guess we need more disenchanters than before and dumping rares from mappers
@@bruvkek4629 I think dust values need to be increased if this is the amount of dust they want us to send
so the only thing that can occasionaly get you divine this league was nerfed to shreds, got it. no reason to engage with league mech now. great league ggg :D
🤣mappers are still pretty good if they stop dying
@@jokerkhrono the main point is "if", but yeah xD
"this is a buff" is always a lie lmao
So what I got from this is your upset that you can't send tiny shipments and get divines back? Sounds reasonable...I've only noticed buffs out of it especially with very big shipments
Before with 9k dust you nearly trippeled the shipment value. Now you need to actually grind dust to improve the shipment value.
@Hans-Kortz yes I understand that but I think the misunderstanding now is the shipment value vs dust return from what I have tested I have gotten nearly the same rewards as previous with the same small shipments where as with large shipments with large amounts of dust have consistently returned far more than previous...as for the dust situation I have never once "grinded" for dust I just consistantly pick up random junk uniques or buy any cheap tier 0 I can get and throw them in always have more than a million or two dust on hand
Ggg seldom buff things. Mostly nerved😅
Okay so here is something funny, I sent everything in one shipment. Just because I was finishing the day out said the heck with it, So I sent nearly 1mil dust, 40k of each crop, 22k of each metal, and wanna know what I got in return? 3 chaos, 4 regret orbs, 10 alchemy orbs, 10 chromes, and 30 jeweler orbs. So yea I am done with this dumb ass league with micro managing gold, and resources and fuck all else. It has been nothing but a huge waste of time.
Yeah, I just did a massive shipment of over 100k of each crops with almost 200k orgords and 900k dust, and I got 2 divines. At that rate I can get 2 divines every 2-3 days.
I am still getting 1 div about every 3 shipments. One time I got 2 divs for each shipment (I would typically only have 2 boats sent out at one time).
I have not been sending millions worth of shipments, but I did send a bunch of those around 200k up to 500k total shipment values (mainly like 1000 or 2000 of each type of crops, then fill the rest of the shipment value with the dust. For example, for a 30 mins boat trip, I would send 1000 for each crops, then pad it with about 200k dust).
@@deejay7091 maybe I'm just getting super unlucky cause I tried that aswell and I got 1 div outta like 15 ships
@@jokerkhrono better luck next time. Before the patch, the most I had got for each shipment was 1 div (sub 1 mil total shipping value); After the patch, as I stated above, I got 2 div at the same time for two shipments. The cost for the dust is a lot more after patch though, if I wanted to get to somewhat close to the same total shipping value as before.
For me their buffs are direct nerfs
sending shipments was fun UNTIL it started to require 100 000+ ores 20k bars suuuure 20k bars aint that much but i'm out out of ores 0 0 0 0 0 go map 1 hour they get converted bars still not enough CASUALLY map 1 week to make one full shipment fuuuuuuuuuck thaaaat anyways big brain move is to buy influenced maps t14-15 and make map runners run them WHITE sell fragments and double the money you spent buying maps aight im out
the amount of resources received really should of scaled with town level if they wanted it to be like other city builders because you just dont get enough
So they nerfed the most effective strategy of sending like 1.5k of each herbs and 8k dust on cooldown, but buffed sending giggaships with everything you got once a day. So they are correct, it is a buff in most cases, but the case that everyone was doing is massively nerfed. Why do GGG always play around with words instead of being straight, it isn't rocket science.
Do we have any pictures of giga shipments giving good results, or is that just what we assume? Because I've done some shipments with like 2-3 million value and still got mostly junk. I agree, GGG should have just said they are rebalancing rewards so that larger shipments are more rewarding and smaller shipments are less, instead of saying, "in almost all cases, this is a buff from before."
@@jokerkhrono I'm simply trying to justify the statement that most cases are a buff.
@@Deucely It feels like one of those things that probably looked good on paper but was never actually tested.
@@Deucely the giga shipment get own in most cases because since the patch with 10% risk you have a negative event.
Why do they have to eat the FULL SHIPMENT of crop every time ?
How are they even doing it ? there's enough to feed the roman empire for a week in there
@@jokerkhrono I got 4 divs, 2 power runes and a lot of other stuff from sending a giga shipment right after the patch went live. Hard to say yet if it's overall a big buff or not, but it's definitely a big buff to huge shipments which simply weren't worth it before (unless you wanted to just minimize time spent in kingsmarch and focus on other things)
i got real annoyed with how they worded the notes and i kept shittalking shipping on my discord with my mates, and the dude kept saying it was fine, actually got into an argument that ended with me just alt f4ing out of the game for a full day. thx for ruining my friendships ggg xd all good now tho, i kinda overreacted but fuckin hell GGG why?
I agree i wish they had worded it differently when it's something that is obviously not a buff, no matter how you look at it and he "it's fine" argument gets to me too since it's clearly not, but I'm glad everything is good now. 🤣🤣
I quit fucking with the ships, the gold upkeep was too annoying. I rather focus on mappers and cut out all the bloat. (Crops/ore/smelting/dust)
This is probably the way to go. Maybe send a massive shipment every 2-3 days just to pull the slot machine and be done with it. The issue with mapping though is that the T9-10 mappers are really expensive to come by and when they die (with 1% chance mind you), it feels like crap.
maybe its time for 50 mill shipments. i will try to save up like a week and see what i get
Mirror shard yesterday in my boat.. send 1m dust and 10k of all.
bait
I just literally sent 2 Verisium Bars to Ngakanu to guarantee 4-9 stacked decks per ship every 30 minutes lol
giga low effort lazy way of guaranteed returns for those who don't enjoy engaging with the mechanic. If you want RNG returns just use the Stacked Decks instead of selling.
Have 1200 I'm gonna open up tomorrow morning in a big session
this actually seems like a great strat since stacked decks are like 2c ea in bulk right so like 30-60c per 30min
@@jokerkhrono And Power runes keep going up, so you want the short routes for more encounters anyways. Got 5 power runes yesterday lol
@@HermanManly Small shipments of 2 gets your power runes? I've been doing exactly that just for some scarabs and never got one power rune...
@@Vulcanxs No, but you (used to?) get more Pirate encounters
@@Vulcanxs Oh, but you can send Verisium to Riben Fell instead and get scarabs + runes. I actually think this is overall a better strategy
This is a huge nerf thanks for the video. Is reddit even complaining about it yet? I was having a blast playing this league but now the demand out ways me trying to farm enough gold and mats to keep things going for the reward. *if you get any reward
No problem 😁. I'm honestly shocked that Reddit hasn't said anything about it yet because it is a really noticeable change. Sadly, I agree that this league is a lot grindier than I was hoping it would be
I agree. I like running maps but there are some days I just want to lab if it’s a good layout but if I do that for a whole day, my town will shut down. I feel like I almost never have gold because I’m always having to bank it for farmers. I’ve also spent millions in high quality rerolls and I’ve only seen 3 level 8 mappers and 1 level 9. I feel like I’m alway in dire need of gold.
@@JayBills3 And then one dies every 2 or 3rd map :)
Reddit is heavily moderated these days unfortunately. If you look at the forum/twitch chats/youtube comments everyone is pissed off (me included lol)
I can't play right now, but I think people invested too much on the town expecting something that wasn't there.
I always kept it at bare minimum just to get some gear at the start and bubblegum currency.
When a league mechanic is actually profitable, streamers actually use it endgame like affliction or allflames.
The town was never meant to be a big source of currency and people who expected it to be are the most frustrated at the end.
GGG would never make a "passive" source of income be time efficient - although the auxtion house is xloser to that than the whole town itself.
But yeah, shipping was never meant to be a big source of income, but as a mix to help you start and get runes mostly. Currency is bonus.
Bro empy almost has a mageblood just from selling loot his mappers have gotten him... not sure what youre talking about...
It was a good source of supplementary income though. Now it's not even that.
It's absolutely nerfed to the ground, so no loot on the ground, no loot on the ships , poe in the trash been I had more than enough and this was last drop.
Yep. Ditto. It bugs me that they fucked up this hard but eh
Could you maybe change the way you speak in those vids a bit because it makes me want to log off my life. I don't want to offend you, its just a feedback that can help you grow the channel further. I know that not everybody is a good speaker but its something you can practice. I enjoy the content of your videos keep it up.
Weird ass “feedback"
I appreciate the feedback, and no offense, but this seems more like a you problem than a me problem. It's your choice whether or not to watch the video. My channel has doubled in size in the past three weeks, so I think it's doing just fine. I've had multiple people tell me to ignore comments like this. If you continue to watch my content, it's appreciated; if you don't, it is what it is.