Did We Just Meet the future Arbiter? - Halo TV Series Theorycraft

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  • The first episode of the Halo TV series contained a lot of easter eggs and references to the core-canon. Among those might be the future Arbiter, Thel 'Vadamee.
    Ending music: "John-117" by Teknoaxe
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 226

  • @mitwhitgaming7722
    @mitwhitgaming7722 2 роки тому +93

    Something felt off about the Covenant in that one fight scene and I realized it was the fact it was only Elites. Some Grunts and Jackles would have added a little more flavor to that fight, even if they were less intimidating.

    • @antftwx
      @antftwx 2 роки тому +17

      I'm assuming/hoping grunts are gonna be used as comic relief later on, so I'm glad they didn't appear in the first ep.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +21

      Dont worry, we have already seen Grunts and Jackals in the trailer. They'll appear!

    • @tyler328
      @tyler328 2 роки тому +11

      @@jakespacepiratee3740 according to the guy who plays cheif(forgot his name) brute's are also in the show

    • @526235680
      @526235680 2 роки тому +6

      The most weird thing for me was how chonkers the elites were. If these are the elites then brutes must be like snorlax :D :D

    • @Sanya6496
      @Sanya6496 2 роки тому +3

      @@526235680 Yeah that's true. The Elites were FAR too chonky.

  • @martinhubinette2254
    @martinhubinette2254 2 роки тому +99

    I think Thel can be a nice compliment to further explore the Covenant. I hope that even if this isn't Thel they will eventually introduce him later.

  • @ItsButterBean1020
    @ItsButterBean1020 2 роки тому +35

    I’m not sure it’s this guy but I’d be down with seeing Thel Vadamee
    Especially if he’s an antagonist before enduring his Arbiter arc. Kinda like a Thrawn of the Covenant up until he leaves the Covenant
    Maybe Mahkee is hunted by the emergent Arbiter in future seasons and eventually that leads to his arc of questioning the Covenant beliefs

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 2 роки тому

      i dont know why fans are so balls deep on a blue no force sensitive alien. nobody in the empire mattered or was cool

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 2 роки тому

      @@nomercyinc6783 more an example if anything

  • @marionhope7506
    @marionhope7506 2 роки тому +5

    I think a lotta people privy to the lore came to the same conclusion that we MIGHT be looking at the Elite that in time becomes the Sangeili we all know and love as Arby. At least, I feel that’s what a lot of us are hoping for_ FINGERS CROSSED!!

  • @diosbatman
    @diosbatman 2 роки тому +2

    That Kaidon stuff reminds me a lot of Game of Thrones.

  • @thegoldman25
    @thegoldman25 2 роки тому +11

    I’m so glad you’re making videos on the show, I really enjoyed it and I can’t wait for more!

  • @cptplanit6314
    @cptplanit6314 2 роки тому

    Been going out of my mind about this. Thanks.

  • @stilt_skin_my_rumple6655
    @stilt_skin_my_rumple6655 2 роки тому +1

    That was my first thought when I saw him.

  • @LTENAsr
    @LTENAsr 2 роки тому +1

    They should get og voice actor to voice our arbiter if that’s him

  • @ChaosWolfNinja
    @ChaosWolfNinja 2 роки тому

    What you stated makes good sense. Let's see how the story progresses on it. It would be real awesome if it unfolds like you said Cannon!

  • @UGNAvalon
    @UGNAvalon 2 роки тому

    I think an overlooked benefit of having the show set in an alternate timeline is that, instead of having every plot point be immediately recognized for anyone who’s done even Some digging into the lore, now the future plot threads can feel like an Actual mystery with suspense, even to longtime lore veterans! The creators can go along with viewers’ expectations from core lore, or even subvert &/or repurpose them in surprising ways, and I think we should take some time to appreciate that (assuming the writers actually handle it well, of course).

  • @AntiSimpTrooper-175
    @AntiSimpTrooper-175 2 роки тому

    I just like to see an elite help chief and the others.

  • @notinuse298
    @notinuse298 2 роки тому

    I thought it was just common sense that this is going to be revealed to be Thel

  • @joeytapia5856
    @joeytapia5856 2 роки тому

    One thing no one noticed and you didn’t talk about was how In the cave their motion trackers were offline cuz it was unreadable area or something.

  • @Yumais
    @Yumais 2 роки тому

    It seems, instead of Thel slowly learning about the prophet's lies, he's going to find out immediately and becomes the Arbiter to capture these relics with the help of the covie girl.

  • @featgorgon3985
    @featgorgon3985 2 роки тому +2

    An arbiter is an elite chosen by a high prophet to seek out something the high prophets deem valuable to the covenant, well I think the human character introduced with the covenant could very well be someone who chooses a certain warrior she asked for, to seek out the forerunner relic and kill the demon, just like the arbiter in the game canon

  • @maube8007
    @maube8007 2 роки тому

    I ain't heard no Keith David, and if there ain't no Keith David there ain't no Arby.

  • @NeechiGaming
    @NeechiGaming 2 роки тому

    Cole protocol was one the first Halo books I ever read

  • @TheBlackstarrt
    @TheBlackstarrt 2 роки тому

    That would be great, however where does the inne lady stand in all this?

  • @bander960
    @bander960 2 роки тому

    Even if it is or isn't ol' Arby, if this means an Elite will be a key character in the show, then I'm very interested in where this'll head.

  • @benjamincooper8229
    @benjamincooper8229 2 роки тому

    Maybe they should will bring in Alona Tal to play Katb-320

  • @coletrain583
    @coletrain583 2 роки тому

    Is that Thel 'Vadamee the future Arbiter? I don't know.

  • @trinstonmichaels7062
    @trinstonmichaels7062 2 роки тому

    Trinston was here. .

  • @EmanS117
    @EmanS117 2 роки тому

    There's a lot of cool stuff in the show and a lot I'm not happy with, so the fact it's a spin off universe and not canon allows me to sleep at night 🛌☺

  • @DSRJoker
    @DSRJoker 2 роки тому

    Yes, the blue elite who should be a shipmaster of long-standing by 2552 is the Arbiter, I'm not even joking I expect the show to be THAT dumb.

  • @dylant3714
    @dylant3714 2 роки тому

    We all know this show isn't cannon and they are are leaving some key characters out like blue team but there is no way they leave the arbiter. He is almost as important as the chief in halos story.

  • @cynthiagarza4494
    @cynthiagarza4494 2 роки тому

    my guess is that the elite is A arbiter not THE arbiter that we know as thel

  • @ThatHaloGuy020
    @ThatHaloGuy020 2 роки тому

    i really hope that not all the elites use the same armor. the elite on high charity guarding mercy should have been a honor guard.

    • @xCrimsonxTidex
      @xCrimsonxTidex 2 роки тому

      Agreed. I will go ahead an mention that those elites in the show look like non-ornate Major combat harness honor guards from Halo Wars guarding the Prophet of Regret. Even the staffs are the same. I hope we see the Halo 2 honor guards for the Prophet of Truth or guarding very important locations like the Mausoleum of the Arbiter.

  • @haloguy
    @haloguy 2 роки тому

    There’s no way it’s not Thel lol

  • @crusader7eth163
    @crusader7eth163 2 роки тому +4

    I want them to make a more dedicated lore accurate cannon short series or film after they finished with this. With chiefs armour more like 2/infinite and more accurate voice with more slender elites.

    • @Cyrribrae
      @Cyrribrae 2 роки тому +2

      People would be so bored and hate it. We've seen this period of core canon fleshed out through multiple games, multiple books, multiple external media, including shows. People know this story and how it looks, and history shows that fans of the game really end up NOT liking it when an adaptation is the same thing they've already seen (especially because every scene gets compared to how people wished they'd have seen it - and every small deviation gets magnified into a sin). Not to say it's impossible, (but I kinda think it's impossible for Halo).

  • @thellarbitervademe9701
    @thellarbitervademe9701 2 роки тому

    I dont think this is thell vademee because reach has not as been glassed its still ok dont forgot he became the arbiter after reach was distroyed wort wort wort

  • @wolfbite1984
    @wolfbite1984 2 роки тому

    No

  • @chun-bonntang5391
    @chun-bonntang5391 2 роки тому

    Sadly the new tv series is rather a loose non canon story which is more focused on the insurgents and unsc conflict, promoting diverse cast and ignoring the halo games and novel time line....

  • @TomOostenrijk
    @TomOostenrijk 2 роки тому +2

    I think EVERYONE on this show is horribly miscast. The writing sucks, and the kid is annoying. But the art department is doing a great job. They must actually know the franchise their show is based on, as opposed to others involved in the production. Everything looks great and authentic.

  • @F34RDSoldier805
    @F34RDSoldier805 2 роки тому

    The fact he didn't kill the druggy and instead ran away is a good sign that he is. Because if he did kill her, than it would be more difficult for him to redeem himself later on. Well maybe not difficult in general, more like difficult for these writers. And if it isn't the Arbiter, than why the fuck did the elite just not kill the druggy?

  • @Krosstic
    @Krosstic 2 роки тому +4

    Honestly hope this show doesn’t get renewed for a season 2, it’s ass.

    • @Brandelwyn
      @Brandelwyn 2 роки тому

      I hope it does, if only because they would lose even more money

    • @Krosstic
      @Krosstic 2 роки тому

      @@Brandelwyn It’s for the best.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +1

      @@Krosstic it already has been renewed. Way before the first episode ever came out.

    • @Krosstic
      @Krosstic 2 роки тому +1

      @@jakespacepiratee3740 Tough, hope they cancel it.

    • @TheWeeJet
      @TheWeeJet 2 роки тому +1

      i hope it continues for years.
      main reason it makes the brainless idiots show themselfs with their generalized hate of it without having the ability to give a actual reason to why its bad other than saying it bad like the idiots they are.

  • @damienmccuinn1956
    @damienmccuinn1956 2 роки тому +1

    No it's not the future Arbiter, the show isn't canon

  • @Ambulatory_Viscount
    @Ambulatory_Viscount 2 роки тому +2

    not canon lol

    • @TheWeeJet
      @TheWeeJet 2 роки тому

      why is that bad? one of. if not the best halo book is fall of reach. but the fall of reach book events does not line up with halo reach game. so that would make one of them not cannon.
      but they are both great. it does not take away from them.

    • @Ambulatory_Viscount
      @Ambulatory_Viscount 2 роки тому

      @@TheWeeJet
      The Fall of Reach is definitely still canon, and the events of both are far from irreconcilable. Bad argument.

    • @Ambulatory_Viscount
      @Ambulatory_Viscount 2 роки тому

      @@TheWeeJet
      The Fall of Reach is definitely still canon, and the events of both are far from irreconcilable. Bad argument.

  • @nanoman8
    @nanoman8 2 роки тому

    Accoding to covernant canon, "kaidon warrior" is refering to master chief

    • @captainuseless2120
      @captainuseless2120 2 роки тому +3

      I don’t think that’s correct at all. Master Chief wouldn’t ever be given a respectable title. He’s the demon.

    • @uthergoodman401
      @uthergoodman401 2 роки тому +3

      Wrong. Master Chief is called the Demon by the covenant

  • @jeo228
    @jeo228 2 роки тому +2

    I have to ask, does it matter? I am not getting hooked at all into this silver timeline. Their continuity is really bad with chiefs armor and shields predating where they should be, random new Spartans and discount versions of established characters. Is it worth spending time on theorizing about anything in this show? The show runners themselves don't care about halo continuity anyways. I feel like supporting it with fan speculation is just encouraging bad behavior from 343 in letting this happen. And don't even get me started on the terrible cgi and acting.

    • @stilt_skin_my_rumple6655
      @stilt_skin_my_rumple6655 2 роки тому +7

      Dude it's been one episode can you relax. Cheif's armor and shields aren't even predating what they should be, it's based in 2552. And even if it did, you can't just compare it to the games timeline that simply because it's not the same, so we have no idea how long the war has been ongoing for or how long the Spartan/ Mjolnir projects have been in existence.
      You're like the embodiment of the Halo subreddit.

    • @captainuseless2120
      @captainuseless2120 2 роки тому +3

      The show runners not caring was Clickbait. The guy himself came out and confirmed that it was taken out of context. He was referring to internal discussions with 343 about the overall lore, and specified that this took place after having looked at the games themselves.

  • @ItsAlwaySomethin
    @ItsAlwaySomethin 2 роки тому +102

    I think this is likely true. During the scene where Mercy talks with the covenant human, she said she wants to speak with the warrior, which definitely means this elite is going to get more screen time.
    He'll probably be fleshed out then.

    • @tumblingworm737
      @tumblingworm737 2 роки тому

      Tommy!

    • @marionhope7506
      @marionhope7506 2 роки тому +3

      I sure hope so! I mean, that is a good guess as to where they’re going with his introduction, right…? It makes sense, why else bring attention to the character? It’s not enough to say that he witnessed JOHN-117 activate the index. The Prophets know that the humans are Reclaimers, so there’s gotta be more to em’!! …If not, I’m gonna be kinda let down.😔

    • @GPsarakis
      @GPsarakis 2 роки тому

      We'll know for sure when the meeting takes place and they ask for his name. Probably in the next episode.

    • @gr8tbigtreehugger
      @gr8tbigtreehugger 2 роки тому

      Or, the covenant human kills the elite in an effort to protect her position as Reclaimer.

  • @cloudyskygaming0
    @cloudyskygaming0 2 роки тому +30

    It’d be so cool being able to see arbiter and chief as enemies and then they slowly make peace with one another in the show I just wonder how they would do it differently Vs the games.
    I think Arby N Chief may return in the following years!
    I could totally see the rando elite as thel because he may get in trouble with the prophets for not stopping the master Chief from taking the artifact in which he is branded and deemed the arbiter

    • @giovannigamez8901
      @giovannigamez8901 7 місяців тому

      😂 it’s actually happening your comment is 100% accurate based on the show season 2 episode 5 he’s John’s enemy because he kills vannak spartan 134 but they will have to team up since he’s not following orders killing master chief

  • @Cyrribrae
    @Cyrribrae 2 роки тому +14

    Not sure, but if they do, I hope we see his personal journey more during the show. This is a good opportunity to explore the Covenant internal politics and culture in slightly more focus than we got from the games.

  • @jakespacepiratee3740
    @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +58

    Honestly im not one of the people who dislikes the Elite Armor designs. It looks like ancient Medieval armor of Sanghelios being used in a modern setting, but I also hope that they dont all look so antique. I hope we see some in the classic shiny glowy elegant armor in the future!

    • @Meep-0424
      @Meep-0424 2 роки тому +6

      I do hope at least the Elites’ bodies are made slimmer (more like H2A), I think they look more Halo 4-5ish than I would like, but the armor is slowly becoming one of my favorites in the series, and I hope the Arbiter’s armor takes this and the H2A design into account.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +4

      @@Meep-0424 but at least the jaw proportions at least arent H4-5!

    • @Meep-0424
      @Meep-0424 2 роки тому +2

      Yup, that’s a good thing, now they don’t utterly defy Darwinism!

    • @Meep-0424
      @Meep-0424 2 роки тому +1

      Having a jaw designed where the teeth would stab into your eyes is NOT a desirable trait for a species to have if it wants to last long term. That is not my belief, just a fact of life. Plus, if the Precursors survived to seed another galaxy than their own, then they must have known of some sort of equivalent.
      Also you’re talking about Darwin like he created life in the universe, when he just put forth the theory on evolution.

    • @SubTheScribeYT
      @SubTheScribeYT 2 роки тому +1

      Same here bro. I hope they give Arby's squad their og armor

  • @Autobotmatt428
    @Autobotmatt428 2 роки тому +8

    I think your right about the stories they are grabbing form.

  • @ScoutSilico
    @ScoutSilico 2 роки тому +5

    I haven't seen the episode. I've seen the breakdowns. When we see the elite watching Chief use the artifact I immediately thought "Oh that guy's gonna ask questions and be made Arbiter." Why else show one single elite? He'll ask about the human in the Covenant, and if they're really special. Then the elite will be made Arbiter to die in a suicide mission.

  • @Bigjonmetal
    @Bigjonmetal 2 роки тому +4

    I suspect this aswell, I have ever since I saw the IMDb page where there's a casting credit to "Kaidon" .
    I think this team of Elites was a squad of Zealots that were going after forerunner tech like in Halo Reach, I think that'd explain thier more ceremonial looking armour aswell. Perhaps the red elite was a Zealot Field martial

  • @AKlover
    @AKlover 2 роки тому +6

    Wasn't the Elite survivor wearing essentially low tier armor? Would the leader of A "House" be wearing low tier armor?

    • @HaloCanon
      @HaloCanon  2 роки тому +8

      His armor was similar but distinct from the other Elites.

    • @bander960
      @bander960 2 роки тому

      Good point. However, considering how the show handles Elite rank armors (like the Honor Guard next to Mercy having standard Minor armor), we probably shouldn't trust the armor too much to find the survivor's rank.

  • @TheEric_Esq
    @TheEric_Esq 2 роки тому +6

    Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like they are ever going to have Thel Vadam as we know him appear in the series. Looks like they’re setting up Makee to fill that role of heretic who will lead the Covenant separatists, if they ever get to that storyline. I feel like that scene where Mercy tells her to leave the book behind is an indication that she’s not entirely committed to the Covenant’s genocide of humanity. Gotta say it’s dampening my excitement…

    • @nothisispatrick6528
      @nothisispatrick6528 2 роки тому +4

      You’re making a lot of assumptions based of the first episode. You could totally be right but it’s way too early to say with any kind of certainty what character’s they will and won’t introduce at this point

    • @marionhope7506
      @marionhope7506 2 роки тому

      I dunno… So far, the production is pulling from certain elements of the books & remixing it a bit. Makee is DEFINITELY something else that we’ve NEVER seen before, but her inclusion in the Covenant during this part of the human/Covenant war makes REAL sense. I’m actually surprised that her angle wasn’t introduced way before! That said, I’m having a hard time believing that the show-runners wouldn’t give us their take on the mantle of the Arbiter as it pertains to Sangeili culture. Then again, we will just have to wait & see, I guess. Although, I have heard the speculation that Makee is there for cost-cutting in the CGI budget department_ I hope that’s wrong information.

    • @thescruffinator8830
      @thescruffinator8830 9 місяців тому

      bro is eating his words now lol.@@nothisispatrick6528

  • @fish_daddy6947
    @fish_daddy6947 2 роки тому +3

    I also noticed that this mystery Elite character has a much Higher CGI quality than the other Elites. His facial expression rigging is also better. Save to guess this is definitely going to be some kind of main character.

  • @ghostlover9827
    @ghostlover9827 2 роки тому +15

    Remember guys this is a different timeline to the original story so some lore and characters well get retcon or re made for the show but damn I'm excited to see the arbiter in it samurai like armor design for the TV series and excited to which arbiter this might be since Thel or Rita ot the heretic arbiter who for saw lies behind the great journey or a new character

    • @ghostlover9827
      @ghostlover9827 2 роки тому +1

      Fal 'Chavamee is the one i meant about the one that for saw the great Lie _ THE GREAT JOURNEY IS LIE! quotes from halo legends. but what if the sliver timeline mention the battle between the covenant and the Arbiter in the series knowing that the battle took place between 2125 like damn 4 centuries before the events of the halo trilogy or the war and shafts the time period and put it somewhere in sliver time line and we got our arbiter in which means we get to see more of the beautiful written Fal`chavamee from halo legends anime and some how make it work in this show ya know : D

  • @fullmeddljacket8486
    @fullmeddljacket8486 2 роки тому +3

    i sure hope they dont end the season with the fall of reach.
    the combat needs a serious visual overhaul which i suspect will happen for season 2 anyway if the first season doesnt bomb too hard

    • @uthergoodman401
      @uthergoodman401 2 роки тому

      Hopefully it ends on a cliffhanger where the attack starts. Then the next season can be about the fall

    • @Cyrribrae
      @Cyrribrae 2 роки тому

      Do you guys not want Halo to be introduced whatsoever in Season 1? Or you want them to abandon core canon here and introduce Halo before the fall of Reach?

  • @Kemick10
    @Kemick10 2 роки тому +1

    Sad how lack luster this all turned out in the series...

  • @gr8tbigtreehugger
    @gr8tbigtreehugger 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this insightful video! I'm new to Halo so learning tons here. I wonder if the Covenant warrior who witnessed Master Chief activating the Forerunner tech is going to be killed by The Blessed One/Reclaimer, in order to protect her position (since she wouldn't be the only one able to do so any longer.)

  • @erob9446
    @erob9446 2 роки тому +1

    I really hope that white hair lady isn't the Arbiter

  • @YasaiTsume
    @YasaiTsume 2 роки тому

    Just don't name drop him as Thel and we'll be fine. I'm already pretty unhappy they didn't decide to go FULL What If mode with this Silver Timeline.
    I mean they even changed the members of Chief's team, why not change who Chief is as well? Musa, Kurt, Fred or heck even a female Chief Linda, Kelly or Grace.

  • @Jedzelex
    @Jedzelex 2 роки тому +1

    I see Halo fans being like The Witcher fans in the sense that at first they weren't on board with the live action interpretation of their favorite IP.
    But eventually, they came to understand that its an ADAPTATION. And that some things will obviously be different from the games or books. And once they came to terms with that reality, they were (for the most part) capable of actually enjoying the show. Without nitpicking every scene.
    The Witcher Netflix series became its own thing. Even after it became quite popular, it didn't replace the books or the games. And that was by design. And everyone is (mostly) happy with that arrangement.
    The Halo series has the chance to also become its own thing. And Halo fans need to relax and not feel like it threatens the games or other media by simply existing.

    • @HaloCanon
      @HaloCanon  2 роки тому +1

      I do wish 343 had been clearer much sooner about the intentions for the show, but I absolutely agree.

    • @shaenni9122
      @shaenni9122 2 роки тому +1

      Nope. Not watching it.... should be Canon and lore or nothing.

    • @l.d.r6653
      @l.d.r6653 2 роки тому

      @S Hawnni if it was cannon it would be boring. Just play the games again…

    • @shaenni9122
      @shaenni9122 2 роки тому +1

      @@l.d.r6653 only for people that aren't that into halos bigger story. Prime example. All the Books aren't boring, they grow the Canon and lore. Doing what they did will just confuse people. And people that haven't played halo might go to play it after watching the show and be disappointed or confused that it isn't like the show.

  • @VenatorPerson
    @VenatorPerson 2 роки тому +1

    2:44 Look Gary there I am!

    • @HaloCanon
      @HaloCanon  2 роки тому +2

      Funny thing is, I was just watching a Spongebob clip

  • @apple27out
    @apple27out 2 роки тому +1

    I think he is thel mainly becouse if the covenant think the only human in there society is the blessed one but then find out the elite saw the demon access the relic as well And she wants to meet the worrier I’d say they don’t want him telling others about that so they’ll make him a arbiter so he would perish rather then tell other what he saw

  • @Spartan-P
    @Spartan-P 2 роки тому

    Wouldn't what they've been pulling from, as from what you said, just be the core cannon storyline? The books are fillers and primarily don't diverge from the main cannon. So I think what you say in this video about paramount/cbs pulling from fall of reach or Cole protocol would just be them pulling from different parts of the main cannon. Essentially they're tweaking things from the book/videogames not following one set story. In all honesty though Reach shouldn't even be a UNSC controlled planet at this point. Especially when Cortana is introduced to Chief.

  • @witnessme602
    @witnessme602 2 роки тому

    That's probably not gonna be Thel. That elite (by the show's depiction) is a minor. Thel was a zealot and supreme commander of the Fleet of Particular Justice. But then again, who am I kidding? This show is more than likely to make a minor the Arbiter given how much respect it has for established lore.

  • @arenesadventures2100
    @arenesadventures2100 2 роки тому

    I don't think they are referring to Kaidon specifically. What it could mean by "Kaidon Warrior" is maybe a higher ranking set of Sangheili who are under close command of a Kaidon, which might be where the Elite Major rank fits in. So a Kaidon receives the rank of Major upon joining the Covenant military (or vice versa, normal elite soldier becomes a Kaidon and is promoted to Major) like when someone joins the US military with a college degree. The Kaidon then appoints warriors to fight alongside them, such as in the case of retrieving a significant artifact. This would really only change the significance of the Kaidon rank in this timeline where there can be many Kaidons in a Keep instead of one for each state like in core canon. Maybe they have a "Kaidon of Kaidons" for each state in the Silver timeline.

  • @andrewmack3463
    @andrewmack3463 2 роки тому

    show sucks sorry. I cant do it. I watched 30 mins and was majorly disappointed and this expands to Infinite. 343 needs to have Halo taken away from it. Or at the very least new leadership at the highest levels. because they approved this crap for TV.

  • @Ty-er5ok
    @Ty-er5ok 2 роки тому

    I suspected that was the Arbiter as well. In large part, as he did NOT kill Kwan when he rushed past her in his escape as it would have been little or no effort for him to kill her. Having him NOT kill her, sets him out to some degree to the Elites we saw for the most part in the pilot who had no problem killing civilians.

  • @issacsanchez7305
    @issacsanchez7305 2 роки тому

    Very small detail and probably isn’t anything of solid evidence but Thel was also said to have been left handed and the elite in question of this video was left handed. I’m probably reaching but who knows

  • @volrogue
    @volrogue 2 роки тому

    I just hope they don't bring Thel's character into the show, and him be of little meaning to the narrative. He's a major character, so if they sully his name, people won't be happy

  • @renarddubois940
    @renarddubois940 2 роки тому

    well it kinda looks like they don't want to flesh up any non human, They seem to be going for their blessed one and mercy relationship and that will probably be all we will get from them.. the blessed one is obviously taking Thel's role as an ennemy that becomes an ally..

  • @emmanuelgonzalez5599
    @emmanuelgonzalez5599 2 роки тому

    It would be cool to see this elite be the arbiter, but just one question. Will this future Arbiter(if it even happens at all) be the downfall of the covenant like Thel ’Vadam, or is he going to be like the other Arbiters before him where he just does what he is told and die on a battlefield like all the other Arbiters?

  • @Ashamedofmypast
    @Ashamedofmypast 2 роки тому

    Cool. Ultimately I think this show just isn't for me. Its not what I hoped for thats fine but it doesn't even feel like it was made for fans its just a meh scfi show least that's my impression thus far.

  • @forbiddenspatula4243
    @forbiddenspatula4243 2 роки тому

    I kinda want it to be a new Arbiter. We have an honorable Thel and ruthless Ripa. I wanna see a cowardly sleazy cheat, like a Starscream type character.

  • @LMT069
    @LMT069 2 роки тому

    Looks more like Marvel's Juggernaut

  • @the_weird_human_creature
    @the_weird_human_creature 2 роки тому

    How come he’s a kaidon and an elite minor? You would think he would have a better position in the covenant (like an ultra, general, zealot, etc).

  • @TheOraclearchive
    @TheOraclearchive 2 роки тому

    No its all very possible. Seems bizarre if the show wouldnt deepen our connection to the covenant.

  • @psychosparten049.esquire9
    @psychosparten049.esquire9 2 роки тому

    My thought as soon as I saw that part. Just hope they don’t fuck up the Armor again.

  • @novahharold799
    @novahharold799 Рік тому

    Yellow armor needs to have that golden armor before becoming arbiter

  • @viagabee9193
    @viagabee9193 2 роки тому

    after this season i definitely think so. makee dead and i think the arbiter coming.

  • @jaredmc7982
    @jaredmc7982 2 роки тому

    I hope they don't do Thel dirty in the Silver canon! Fingers crossed!

  • @Canation89
    @Canation89 2 роки тому

    What if this elite is the friend of the arbiter like the in halo 2 in he died

  • @ramonvillafane9442
    @ramonvillafane9442 2 роки тому

    That’s the arbiter from halo wars

  • @hendogpound
    @hendogpound 2 роки тому

    Hope Keith David is the VA

  • @wilderf4424
    @wilderf4424 2 роки тому

    INTERESTING THEORY!

  • @_MaZTeR_
    @_MaZTeR_ 2 роки тому

    Oh I hope so

  • @MistaE
    @MistaE 2 роки тому

    Question, what makes an Elite become The Arbiter?

    • @HaloCanon
      @HaloCanon  2 роки тому +2

      Ah, I should have explained that. The simplest way to put it is that when an Elite ends up screwing up really bad, they have the chance to take up the mantle of Arbiter to earn redemption. In the case of Thel 'Vadamee, he was held responsible for the destruction of the first Halo ring. This "heresy", as it was labeled, saw himself stripped of rank and authority. To earn redemption, he became an Arbiter, a warrior of the Prophets.

  • @HaloGaming08
    @HaloGaming08 2 роки тому

    ah i was thinking same way when i heard Kaidon warrior being used but that elite being Thel?

  • @madjoe9679
    @madjoe9679 2 роки тому

    I didn’t immediately connect this lone Sanghelli with Thel but now after this theory, it makes complete sense. It’ll also help the narrative of Thel “failing” in his mission and the Higher-arcs branding him an Arbiter.

  • @reminiscentiaoff4669
    @reminiscentiaoff4669 2 роки тому

    This elite is very obviously the one seen with Makee in one of the trailers, considering she asked to speak with him. My guess is that they will end up working together.
    Another interesting idea is that because of working with a human being eye-opening in some capacity, this could be the SIlver Canon's take on Sesa or a new seperatist/heretic group leader. Or maybe a fusion of Sesa and Thel's characters thematically.
    In any case it seems that they will have a connection, they definitely have an audience with the prophets despite him only being a minor in rank.

  • @MrHurst-lb1rn
    @MrHurst-lb1rn 2 роки тому

    Hoping for Noble team to make an appearance this season. Noble 6 is a fan favorite and it would be great to see him and Chief together

  • @TheSpartanL106
    @TheSpartanL106 2 роки тому

    I think the best way to come out of this is to hope it is Thel
    But expect it to be just a random elite to relay what happened back to the Covenant

  • @TOC-1775
    @TOC-1775 2 роки тому

    I hope that Arbiter (Thel Vadam) Glasses the planet that was in the first episode.

  • @davidsnyder238
    @davidsnyder238 2 роки тому

    I think its a great theory and has a ton of potential.

  • @thechroniclegamer4285
    @thechroniclegamer4285 2 роки тому

    I mean…he’s wearing arbiter armor

  • @alricmalicorne321
    @alricmalicorne321 2 роки тому

    Quick question. Does anyone know how he got off planet?

  • @EmperorDxD
    @EmperorDxD 2 роки тому

    Hay Man do you think we will get flood aswell

    • @Cyrribrae
      @Cyrribrae 2 роки тому

      I doubt it in Season 1. Depends on how quickly they're moving. I mean, they didn't know they were renewed for a second season until they finished shooting, so maybe they really sped up the timeline, but it feels like something you leave on a cliffhanger and have a really upsetting Season 2 opener with lolll. Kinda like how they started out this season with covenant murdering children and a bunch of colonists.

    • @HaloCanon
      @HaloCanon  2 роки тому

      Not this season, but maybe next season

    • @EmperorDxD
      @EmperorDxD 2 роки тому

      @@Cyrribrae I also think in a season 2 I wonder if we will get brutes because brutes wasn't really used as much yet

    • @EmperorDxD
      @EmperorDxD 2 роки тому

      @@HaloCanon I hope so would be awesome to see

    • @EmperorDxD
      @EmperorDxD 2 роки тому

      @@Cyrribrae Nah the reason it too so long is because of COVID it hit halo hard especially the post production apparently

  • @rinphod4442
    @rinphod4442 2 роки тому +4

    Meanwhile the show runners: “Arbiter? What’s that?”

    • @over9000713
      @over9000713 2 роки тому +1

      "shit, mark, just go with it"

  • @yerry_verse
    @yerry_verse 2 роки тому

    Tried to watch this episode but at 30:09 abandoned the video, I just couldn't accept what I saw. I will never watch this tv series again. I was resistant to see some changes, Parangosky for example, but I can't accept that. I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.

  • @212thBeehiveMan
    @212thBeehiveMan 2 роки тому +6

    Isn't the series not canon? Didn't they say that they don't care ("didn't look at") about the source material (games or books)?

    • @megadeth8592
      @megadeth8592 2 роки тому +1

      Yes

    • @Brandelwyn
      @Brandelwyn 2 роки тому +1

      Yup

    • @Cyrribrae
      @Cyrribrae 2 роки тому +6

      No, they didn't. Jesus, how does fake news make it into Halo fandom. The quote that is taken from is totally twisted. People take this one part where they're like "we didn't look at the books at all, so we didn't feel constrained". Looks like a terrible quote. Except...
      They literally said that DURING A MULTIPLE DAY LORE AND SOURCE MATERIAL DEEP DIVE AT 343. They didn't look at the games THERE. As in, when they were exploring and learning about the world and the character, there was so much detail and information that populated the universe, that they didn't need to crib anything directly from the game for it to be coherent and full.
      That doesn't mean they didn't take anything from the games - *of course* they took stuff from the games. Where do you think the HUD design, or the weapon designs, or the ship designs, or the armor designs came from? From their imaginations? Ian literally talks about how major plot points and locations come from the Cole Protocol?
      Come on ya'll. Don't like the series if you don't like the series, that's totally fine. But so many of these criticisms are absurd.

    • @jacobwilliams8380
      @jacobwilliams8380 2 роки тому +1

      @@Cyrribrae Eh, you really didn’t prove anything with that. You can totally ignore source material and still borrow stuff from it. For example, you could make a Star Wars story with next to no knowledge on the universe, but if you slap on a couple tie fighters, Star destroyers, and lightsabers, you can still call it a “Star Wars Story”. That’s what they’re doing with Halo, only piggybacking off of the iconic image and sounds, while ignoring all the substance.

    • @Cyrribrae
      @Cyrribrae 2 роки тому +2

      TLDR: Sorry for writing an essay. I don't agree that they're lacking substance. And I'd argue most people complaining don't even know what "substance" they're asking for. The writers probably know more about Halo lore than most of the fans complaining (maybe not on this channel). Non canon Halo stuff has been awesome in the past, despite it not being canon. I think this can be too.
      @@jacobwilliams8380 Are they, though? Ignoring all the substance? Of what?? I feel like they got a lot of the substance of the main characters and main factions in this first episode. None of that is a departure from the substance of Halo.
      Halo the franchise isn't ABOUT a specific armor design or a specific set of important dates or battles. That stuff is awesome! But.. Halo is more than that.
      Most people's complaints are like "the designs don't look right" "why'd they make him take off his helmet!" "there's a human with the covenant". Are these significant departures from core canon? For sure. Maybe it'll be handled terribly; totally possible. But it's ridiculous to dismiss all of their work, when they're clearly pulling straight from lore.
      Did you expect to see a Halsey/Parangovsky confrontation? Did you expect the first episode to be set on Madrigal? Or even to feature the Insurrectionists? "Iconic images" these MOST CERTAINLY are not. And yet, I think they're used to very good effect.
      Is canon the end all be all of Halo? Is it the presence of Master Chief?
      Is Halo Wars less of a Halo game because it doesn't feature MC, is in a totally different location, and just "borrows the iconic imagery" of the series? I don't think so. Conversely, is it "Halo" just because it's officially canon? I don't think so. I think Halo Legends adds powerfully to the Halo franchise, even though it's not exactly canon. Halo: Reach and the Fall of Reach both do that, even though they can't both be perfectly canon. All of these are Halo imo.
      We don't know if this TV show will feel Halo yet. And I think it's perfectly ok if we disagree on that ultimately. I quite enjoyed the first episode. But the idea that they didn't care about the source material at all is totally whack. They very clearly did. In fact, more than a lot of the shitposters on the internet who hardly understand the criticisms they're lobbing at the show.

  • @jessedunda2130
    @jessedunda2130 2 роки тому

    I hope they cancel this shit it was so bad I uninstalled infinite and am done halo. 343 sold out the franchise.

  • @Pyck3
    @Pyck3 2 роки тому

    I am not too sure about this. I would love if it was so but the show makers doesnt really seem to pay any notice to the Cannon or show much love for the fans.

  • @HelicopterRidesForCommunists
    @HelicopterRidesForCommunists 2 роки тому +8

    The hubris of Hollywood writers and directors to take such a beloved IP, ignore all the things that made it great that people cherished it for, and turn it into a generic woke space drama.

    • @Brandelwyn
      @Brandelwyn 2 роки тому

      Fortunately for them these days people have no standards whatsoever

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +4

      The games were woke too. They had black man soldier and woman soldier. Jackals have femdom culture. Gravemind calls religion deluded. We must destroy Halo for this Heresy.

  • @PelenTan
    @PelenTan 2 роки тому +1

    Really? You're throwing your support behind this abomination. Guess we know where you get your money from.

    • @doom7ish
      @doom7ish 2 роки тому +1

      Dude chill

    • @johntaylor4513
      @johntaylor4513 2 роки тому

      The irony of this channel covering a non canon show lol