Project Diablo II: Season 5 - Thorns Paladin Build & Overview (Pros/Cons)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Summary: lvl 83 Paladin, 6600 ATD, Needs Taunt, Certain mobs wont proc thorns(Shaman fireballs, Ghoul lord fire attacks, Unravelers Black Magic Bolt, Casters Mana Drain, Abyss Knight's projectiles/curses, Baal's Ice Wave, Trav Council's Hydras, Act III Zealot's blizzard, etc) , Big dmg, Fun/silly play style, Barb Thorns = Better, Poor Mapping due to certain mobs no proc.
Project Diablo II: www.projectdia...
Twitch: / driven2chonk
Gear: 02:25
Skills: 08:50
Issues/Problem Mobs: 15:12 25:50
Andariel: 21:13
Throne Room Waves: 28:00
Lister Fight: 31:33
Baal Fight: 32:20
Could see thorns work if they changed to like return damage to monsters within X amount radius and scale with ATD. Then maybe together with conversion to force monsters to kill eachother for survival. Would give a problem on bosses if no mobs are around.
I guess you tried Bramble+Silence providing like 40+ aura with synergies would be around 4k attacker takes dmg?!
Also just an idea I had maybe go full Holy Shock talent tree and have some dmg via the aura and even more zeal dmg. The aura proc might help with the stupid casters that don't proc attackers takes dmg.
I was just trying to a build centered around huge DR and ATD/thorns and try not to cheese as much as possible with any other offensive auras. But yeah the holy shock would help for that pulse. The silence + Bramble and spirit of barb would all stack indeed and the thorns dmg is super fun -- but honestly I just don't find the other parts of bramble super for what I was trying to build out other than the + to max cold res :/ Steel carapace is soooo good and that 1500+ ATD on SC is still more dmg even with a max roll on the thorns aura on bramble. The silence 25 aura only gives like 600 ATD if I recall correctly so it's just not worth it :/ I think a rework/fix for the projectiles that don't proc (but should) + a taunt ability would do wonders for this build! Barb ATD still reigns supreme until then T_T
@@Driven2Chonk Sad to see Barbs being the best Thorns character there is :(
@@jubagaming1337 Agreed T_T
What about bramble to stack thorns aura? Those should stacj
A max roll on Bramble would be a level 21 Aura that's going to be less than 600 ATD so the 1400 ATD on Steel Carapace is still better.
@@Driven2Chonk even when they stack? Can you synergize it at all?
@@Rufio6814 The real issue is they won't stack with the Thorns aura from the Skill tree itself, you will only benefit from whichever has the highest level (whether from the gear, or your skill tree), very similar to how conviction works. The highest level overrides the others. So you're better off ignoring the thorns skill tree completely, stack up ATD on gear (which is a lot), and work on survivability. Not to mention the bramble is a 2 HR investment minimum. Most use bramble for that huge poison dmg % it can give, or for a spirit/creeper Druid build. Spirit of Barb will stack with Thorns Aura. Not having a taunt and the inconsistency with what procs ATD is what really holds this pally thorns build back --- not needing more dmg.
That chest armor is bomb, its under-rated abit!! I like it!
Would the synergies for Thorns feed in to weapon aura?
I don't believe so due to thorns working similar to how conviction is balanced. Only items that are worn (silence, bramble) have their auras stack -- but if you ran thorns on top of that w/ syns maxed out w/ +skill items/charms it would actually cancel out the silence+bramble stacks due to the thorns skill being a higher level. But even with all the synergies I don't think you're going to get much higher than 8k ATD (total w/ gear and aura). So I just feel it's better to forget Offensive Tree completely and just get that lil extra ATD from silence and the rest ATD from gear and put skills into survivability (for my dumb build at least). Honestly 6-7K ATD is decent. The only real issue is things not proc'ing and no source of CC like Taunt. It would feel great to run up and taunt stuff and just tank & spank like that. At least gives ya something to do and makes it a more active build.
@@Driven2Chonk maybe conversion on the monsters that thorns fails on?