You seriously cycled these things 1,000 times each? Throw this man a subscribe guys! I've found the same sort of thing. People ask us to test torque wrenches, but out of the box they are often super close regardless of type and brand. And among actual know brands, even after use, among similar types they are also quite close. It's not as night and day as some other tool types or like it may have been back in the day. I'm going to forward people to this video when they ask!
Sadly yes lol, got 250 cycles in on the first one and was like this was a bad idea lol 😂 but turned the music up and grabbed a beer. Yeah it’s surprising how accurate they are after 1000 even the Icon stayed well within spec. Thanks!
I'm reading this comment four months after it was written. Your statement is a lie! I'm one of those who asked for torque wrench testing on your Torque Test Channel.
Well at least he did not try to say hand position changes the tools out put like most do.. Short video showing the truth ua-cam.com/video/mk95F0hHS3U/v-deo.htmlsi=vdS4hI08-O6Tjshk
Just bought the snap on model. Seeing as I work at a exotic dealership, I didn’t want anybody questioning my tools. But that Icon would have definitely been worth getting. Might pick one up for home. Great video man
You're situation is how Snap On stays in business. I'd take almost any manufacturer over them. They make stuff that works as well as any, but it's 10x the cost.
In my opinion especially according to this video the icon is by far the best out of all of them because it is giving literally the exact same precision and torque and looks just as pretty as the other two in fact basically identical to the snap-on and has a better head 90 tooth anddd the price is literally pennies in comparison to both of the other two and it's a lifetime warranty. Unbelievable and awesome at the same time! Great video
I'm VERY surprised that Icon has a better tooth count in the head AND produces, what seems like in your testing, BETTER grouped results all around, more or less. Very impressive test and I look forward to you testing digital torque wrenches, if you ever do! I also LOVE that CDI tester! Btw, you just earned another subscriber!
Yep I was shocked, just goes to show you don't have to spend $400 for a quality torque wrench. The tester is expensive, but yeah its sweet, it has a special setting just for digital torque wrenches. Tomorrows video will be dremel tools and then the following week will be professional digital torque wrenches. The new ICON vs Snap on. Thanks!
Thanks dude! I'm actively shopping ICON, PI, CDI, and Snap On for the split beam...with the current HF coupon the ICON is down to $104.99. I think I know where I'm going tomorrow morning.
I've been eying a 1/2" split beam for a while now. Finally jumped on the wagon yesterday when HF had 40% off all Icon wrenches & ratchets. For $84 OTD, I'm very happy and grateful. Can't beat that lifetime warranty too!
Really want to thank you for spending some big money in order to bring is some valuable and money saving information. I ended up buying the Tekton 32 tooth Split Beam torque wrench for $140 and also has a lifetime warranty 40-250 ft lb. & claims to have a + or - 2.5% but also is a 10° flex head angle which the Icon is 15° & a 90 tooth ratchet. Tekton also has a lifetime warranty on their torque wrenches. I personally go for the lower tooth count on Torque wrenches for 1/2 & 3/8”. I will say that the Olsa Digital Torque wrench seems like one hell of a deal especially with their lifetime warranty. Thank you once again for this video! Keep up the great work!
No problem! If the accuracy is correct it’s probably a good deal, knowing Tekton it’s probably correct. But hopefully next month I will test the Tekton split beam!
I've used the Tekton warranty before. It's nice just snapping a picture and having one come in the mail. To be fair, SK has done the same thing for me before and not required me to send a tool back when I had an issue.
Glad i found this video, may need to pick up an icon. My dads got an old craftsman torque wrench thats probably never been returned to zero before putting back, who knows how accurate it is. Peace of mind would go a long way with a new one
There’s another guy testing these (well then icon) with a cheap Crapsman digital tester and he is saying it’s not calibrated correctly when you can see his table flex and obviously he isn’t using the quality of tester you are. Super obnoxious that people are listening to his bogus testing/results. Thanks for providing professional and accurate testing!
If it's the one I seen using a craftsman torque adapter in a vise it is hard to agree with the results. I know most people test torque wrenches with torque adapters because they are inexpensive compared to a proper test installment. Adapters have an accuracy anywhere from +-2-4% so that also has to be factored into the results. Compared to somthing that is designed to test torque wrenches, and has a accuracy of +-.5% No problem!
@@Tools-Tested You are spot on. That guy is giving bad information so I called him out and let others know about your professional presentation here. I’m all about data and I recently bought a ICON split beam. It’s been great, I’m super impressed by their lineup. And I own numerous different tool brands. I don’t believe it unnecessarily spending money on a tool truck offering when it’s not needed. Keep up the good work👍🏻
looks like ill pull the trigger on the icon myself. wish it was made in the U.S but the lifetime is hard to pass up and it matches my black red everything else!
Thank you for the detailed test. I bought the Icon a few weeks ago and was curious about the accuracy, as I have no way to test myself. I only work on my own cars, so it’ll only be used a few times a year, but I really wanted a quality tool. I’m pleased to see that it stacked up well against the more expensive options. It looks sharp in my toolbox too!
@@Tools-Tested I think he means, try 3 of the Icons, test 3 new Icons + the used one, show deltas between them, then give away the 3 Icons or something. I don't think anyone wants you to shell out the money for 3 snapons. lol
Thanks for this very involved test. I was hoping to see a wider gap between the American wrenches than the Icon. That just goes to show how great these Icon tools have become. Keep crushing these videos bud, cheers!
Awesome work. Thanks so much for the dedication to these videos I am so surprised you do not have more of a following. I am sure that will change with time! This is a blossoming channel in the making
I think it would be better to say that the Icon is less expensive compared to the others instead of "cheaper." It sure appears from your testing and several other tool review channels I've seen on various Icon tools; they are high quality tools. Now we all know that Harbor Freight sells some inexpensive tools that really are cheap, meaning very low quality. I've really been watching the tools sold by Harbor Freight the past few years they are really increasing the number of high-quality tools they offer. While these higher quality tools are more expensive than their older less expensive and lower quality "cheap" made tools, they are far from the cost of Snap On or the other tool truck brands. Great video, you sure put the extra effort and expense into this video, you just earned another subscriber.
Thanks! Yeah the Icon line seems to be very good quality. Im sure its hurting Snap on, Mac and Matco. Hopefully they continue adding tools. Really wish they made wrench's below 8mm and a 3/8 split beam or 3/8 digital. Thanks for the Sub!!
I've used tons of snap on split beams from years ago and today, rebuilt, and it doesn't matter if it's accurate or not, I value a longer tool, overall I am more confident in my tool if it's longer and more comfortable to use. Try using the short snap on to do 150ft lbs on an 8 lug truck.
@@Tools-Tested i keep these in my car, so i appreciate them being short. i keep a pipe that i use as an extension when i need more torque. it's not an ideal solution but it's the only way it would fit in the toolbox
Fantastic video looking at these torque wrenches. Not much of a pattern to the results either. I would say the Icon and Precision look to have less deviation across the setting, which I would personally see as better behaviour.
Interesting as I can see the fluctuations change with the your change in speed, consistency of your movement. Slow steady seems more consistent. Effects more then I thought
I have the SO split beam unit and it's served me well. But, these days more and move vehicles require a angle percentage finish besides the standard torque spec. I have the Icon unit and it's much easier to use than my Gearwrench unit. If you test the angle digital torque wrenches, I think you'll be surprised how much easier it is to use the Icon unit vs the Gearwrench.
Was on the fence of pulling the trigger with the Icon but will pick it up this weekend for mainly my car. I’ll be installing my motor mounts as it’s first test. 🤞🏽
I refuse to pay tool pimp prices for most stuff. No way I'm paying for snap-off torque wrenches when the warranty is only honored when or if the pimp shows up. Precision Instruments has always done me well. After seeing this the Ikon seemed pretty dang impressive!
So you’re not a professional, cool. Professionals buying pro-level tools are buying the service- free calibrations, replacement when damaged, etc. ‘you get what you pay for’
Used Precision Instruments torque wrenches at Discount Tire. Even with all the abuse we put them through, they remained accurate. I remeber having the teeth break inside of two or three in the eight months i worked there but they still held true to torque.
@@Tools-Tested I have a snapon, it's very similar to the PI, although I don't suppose you can change all that much on an already fantastic design. And I love that I can leave it set to a torque and not worry about it going out of calibration unlike other types
While my Snap On is being rebuilt, thinking about getting the Icon. Now I know to go ahead and get it. (Yes my Snap On is paid off, just took forever lol)
Fine tooth rachets just don't last very good for me. They have there place. But have a habit of using in high torque situations when I should go get a bigger toothed one for strength. Thumbs up on this one👍
I have a 24" Snap-On ratchet with the 36 tooth head. Proto 18" ratchet with 24 teeth. I have abused the living hell out of both in a HD truck shop and in my own shop, and never broken it. The gap is narrowing, but low tooth count has it's place. It's tough to beat for strength. You shouldn't be using a torque wrench for installing fasteners anyway; it's a finishing tool.
Just bought the Icon 1/2 inch Split Beam Torque Wrench. Couldn't pass up that 20% off coupon. Gonna use it for tire rotations on my car. Should pay for itself in a few uses.
This is definitely an expensive test, thank you for doing it nonetheless. Taiwan is less of a deal breaker for me as China would be, and frankly, i'm not too upset about the idea of money going that country. They are in fact a sovereign nation, despite China's efforts to overtake them and claim their sovereignty doesn't exist. So some US dollars going into that country to help support them sounds like not a bad idea to me. I do love US stuff though for sure, gotta support our homeland and jobs for our local communities.
No problem a few subscribers were curious, and that got me wondering. I agree, definitely try and stay away from anything made in China. Hopefully Taiwan can stay its own country. I like to see US made but in this case it’s 2-3X more for the same accuracy.
@@Tools-Tested Since you have the tester, you might want to consider testing some other brands. I was checking some other videos and saw some folks testing Proto and SK torque wrenches, both American made. I'm strongly considering getting an SK torque wrench after seeing the test. It was Project Farm that did the test. Some of the tools my grandfather handed down to me are Proto and SK, so they've been around a hot minute.
@@musician445 I have lots of Proto and SK tools in my Snap-On tool box. (got it cheap) I'm a huge fan of US made industrial brands. Great tools without the tool truck markup, and I have rarely used the warranties, but at least with SK, they absolutely honor them and send me a new tool, no matter how old it is.
I'm with you brother. China is a deal breaker to me these days unless there's literally no other option. They aren't our friends, and if you care at all about the environment, supporting fair wages, worker rights, etc. you're a hypocrite for buying their junk. I spend a lot of time and hard earned money researching and supporting American made brands. Taiwan is definitely not bad stuff in the more affordable category. I have a few Taiwan made tools, and all are much better quality than the Chinese options. It's not that you can't find nice stuff made in China, but you have to pay them a whole lot more to build it nice. If you're gonna pay more, you may as well support the US, Canada, Germany, etc. and Taiwan for the budget stuff. I won't pay higher prices for shitty product. Especially looking at you Craftsman...
@@ChevyConQueso Agreed sir, i do what i can to research and find better quality stuff that isn't made with slave labor. It doesn't mean it won't stop happening, and it doesn't even make me a "better person", but i'd like to do what i can. Additionally, i want tools that last and won't give up on me when i'm in the middle of a project.
Huge point in it's favor. It's the all around bang-for-the-buck wrench in my opinion, and I'm about to buy 2 of them. I would rather support my countrymen and get a quality product at the same time, as it's not much extra for something I'll have for decades. That said, Icon is pretty good quality. For budget stuff I tend to point folks at Tekton, and they have a split beam now too. Curious how comparable it is to the Icon or if it's potentially made in the same facility. There are a lot of quality Taiwanese tools these days, and for a starting mechanic on a budget, they're hard to beat.
Really? Is it being used in a high volume aircraft shop? Just about the most absurd point I’ve heard all week. Close to the “only buy American” bs crap. Not all American products are good. Again good luck using a torque wrench 1,000 times in your life let alone 60,000…. The Taiwanese make some very high quality tools wether you accept the facts or not.
Yes - as tools slowly go out of calibration you won’t always notice it by feel. Cycles can add up quick…one tire rotation job can put 40 clicks on easy. PI does not go cheap and continually tests and fine-tunes their products to be top-notch for their customers. IMO the copies function well and look shiny but do not last as long.
Thanks!, Yes I have the digital icon and have been waiting on the Snap-on equivalent for about a month now... the backorder just keeps getting pushed back. I'm probably going to unbox the icon this week and then we will do a more in depth test when I get the Snap On. Probably in a few months I will compare Gear wrench, Kobalt, Olsa etc etc.
@@Tools-Tested It did and I subscribed after watching a couple more. No nonsense content that performs real-world testing to evaluate tools is a rare find.
It's been good, I cant complain. I have retested it multiple time over the past year and its held accuracy. Yeah I tested a 3/8 precision which was low right out of the box brand new. Also Icon now has a 3/8 version so it makes for a nice set.
Superb video, though I'm not in the US and can't find ICON here. PI is sold at a price higher than Stahlwille, which looks to be a more refined product. I'm confident that these split beam TWs are all more than enough solid for home use.
Thanks!, yeah I can imagine seeing the PI is made in the USA. Just looked up the Stahlwille, interesting design. Yeah I think the Icon is the best value for DIY and even Pro’s by the results.
Just so you know, you have to make sure your hand is pulling on the torque wrench in the exact same spot of the handle every single time or the results will be off... It also will change when you use both hands for leverage instead of one!
Torking independent suspension components after doing alignments and replacing parts on cars like Teslas or BMWs would really help to have that 90 tooth head. I think I’m going to have to get some new torque wrenches.
@@Tools-TestedI need to get a 1/2 drive torque wrench asap and I need it got work at the shop I work at. We have a Matco guy but I don’t wanna spend 400 dollars on a torque wrench. Will the icon be good for work?
@@davidblankenship2686 I have always used a split beam torque wrench for lug nuts. I know using toque sticks is common but I just don’t trust them lol…
@@Tools-Tested Thanks for the reply, great channel! I have the CDI 2503-f-DTC. I’m using it to check 10 torque wrenches. Surprisingly the Powerbuilt deflecting beam is on top with the Olsa and Precision instruments split beams close behind. Will post video next week. I did post a review of the Powerbuilt. Check it out! Thanks!
I would be confident in either one, but if you don’t mind spending a little more I would go with the Precision because of it being made in USA. Also precision was making them for snap on until snap on bought CDI.
Dang, and I was worried about overspending on the $50 husky 50-250 ft lbs needed for the ls crank bolt. These are in a higher league and I don’t use them for my profession so my uses are different. I wish I was man enough to overspend and get a digital torque wrench
The digital ones are nice but really expensive. I plan on testing some, I haven’t owned one. But this video shows you don’t need to spend 4x the money for the same accuracy.
Overspending? Higher league? Are you serious? Two years ago I purchased Sturtevant Richmont DTC-75 electronic torque wrench for the 1000 US Dollars. Four years ago I purchased two Jetco Superduty REVO electronic torque wrenches, a smaller one 25 - 250 Inch Pounds (2.08 Foot Pounds - 20.8 Foot Pounds) and a bigger torque wrench 15 - 150 Foot Pounds for 500 US Dollars, each. Back in the late 1990s, I purchased three torque wrenches micrometre clicker types made by Proto. The little one is good for 40 - 200 Inch Pounds (3.3 - 16.6 Foot Pounds), the next one is good for 16.6 - 83.3 Foot Pounds and a big one is good for 50 - 250 Foot Pounds. I paid for each one roughly between 200 - 400 Canadian Dollars. It was a lot of money for me back then but I don't regret it. Good stuff like Proto stuff was made for life if you take care of it. I'm no mechanic and I never made one penny with my tools but I saved thousands of dollars working on my cars.
@@MrCROBosanceros Same here. Buying quality tools actually saves time and money for long term. If one buys cheap one at beginning, it might end up spending more later. I just ordered the same Snap-On torque wrench today, as I found my Proto J6125F Dial Torque Wrench is not very easy to use. I enjoyed repairing my cars, it's not just saving money, but it's a passion - using some fine tools working on well designed/built cars from BMW or Volvo, and bring the car condition to its original operating condition as it was new is fun to me.
Dang it someone just recently listed the 1/2 certain of the Armstrong torque tested(probably made by cdi as well) for $900 on eBay, would have saved you a grand but what can you do... What are you going to do with the tester now that you've already made the video?
Ya know this is a good test. I bet those numbers would be better if you pulled instead of pushing. Think of a truck pulling something what is being used? Torque, that's how I remember
Yeah I have been thinking about that. I need to find a old lathe or heavy duty table then I could attach a hand crank to keep the force consistent much like the tool holder on a lathe.
But fr tho you should do a video of the difference between pushing and pulling tho. That does matter because I have seen the difference when I was in college. At some points it was a 5 to 8 lb difference. Might not matter to much when it comes to a half inch torque wrench but it might when it comes to inch lbs
@@robertbrisk9382 it's much easier to push on a torque wrench.. Especially when you're doing something up to 1000ftlbs trust me your back will thank you
Nice repetition testing, but I'm wondering: who is the toolmaker equivalent of Toyota/Honda? I mean, which brand is tops in terms of long-term quality and reliability, but still affordable? I've been wondering about getting a Japanese torque wrench. For certain parts, I really don't want the torque setting to unexpectedly go wrong.
Thanks! I would say the best bet would be precision instruments if your worried about longevity. They came up with the split beam design and Snap-on still sells them with there name on it in the older design. It’s been the go to in shops for years. Now most techs have digital ones but it’s hard to say how long they last. Personally I would stay away from the coil spring style torque wrench’s. (Round handles)
@@Tools-Tested Micrometer wrenches are fine and an old standby, but the cheap ones can lose calibration pretty quick if the torque block moves out of alignment, or you loosen the spring to the point that there's no tension on it at all, which can let things move. You wanna return them to the lowest setting, not loosen them up. Design is super important here and all are definitely not equal. I use Sturtevant Richmonts for my lower torque click type units. The flat tube units are the way to go.
@@ChevyConQueso Exactly! The problem is that 99 % of the people (including UA-camrs) don't have a clue what is Sturtevant Richmont. If Snap-on torque wrenches are "Rolex" than Sturtevant Richmont is Vacheron Constantin. Yes, flat tube design is important like on my old Proto micrometre type torque wrenches.
I haven't yet, trying to work up the courage to drop another almost 2K (MSRP for 3K) on another tester. The one I have is only good for 25-250ft-lbs I could get away with mid to the high range on most 3/8 but not the lower end. I hope to have all the testers I need to do 1/4-3/4 by the end of this year.
This will really get the Snap-on fan boys fired up lol. They all see the high price tag so it has to be the best in the world. This just proved that you don't have to spend the big money to get something decent.
Dude, they don’t even care about that. They’re proud to blow all their money and get into debt for snap on, even if they just watched a video that shows Icon would give them the same results for $400 less. It’s all about image for them. They’re sheep. Dude just told them straight up, it costs a fraction of the price of snap on, it has a lifetime warranty and if it break or something is wrong, you just walk into the store and get a new one for free. They still don’t care. Guess they need those bragging right to get them through their day. 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Dude, they don’t even care about that. They’re proud to blow all their money and get into debt for snap on, even if they just watched a video that shows Icon would give them the same results for $400 less. It’s all about image for them. They’re sheep. Dude just told them straight up, it costs a fraction of the price of snap on, it has a lifetime warranty and if it break or something is wrong, you just walk into the store and get a new one for free. They still don’t care. Guess they need those bragging right to get them through their day. 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
From my testing the icon is within the 4% accuracy rating for the full range 50-250. For higher accuracy you might look at the 3/8 split beam tekton, that would give you 20-100 @ 2.5% accuracy. I hope to test the Tekton next month
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You seriously cycled these things 1,000 times each? Throw this man a subscribe guys! I've found the same sort of thing. People ask us to test torque wrenches, but out of the box they are often super close regardless of type and brand. And among actual know brands, even after use, among similar types they are also quite close. It's not as night and day as some other tool types or like it may have been back in the day. I'm going to forward people to this video when they ask!
Sadly yes lol, got 250 cycles in on the first one and was like this was a bad idea lol 😂 but turned the music up and grabbed a beer.
Yeah it’s surprising how accurate they are after 1000 even the Icon stayed well within spec.
Thanks!
I'm reading this comment four months after it was written. Your statement is a lie! I'm one of those who asked for torque wrench testing on your Torque Test Channel.
10,000 cycles at 250 lb-ft next and retest, please. Just joshing you. Great video and channel! Thanks for all you and TTC do!
@@mikeconnolly4296 I’d buy him his beer for the next 9,000 cycles 😂😂
Well at least he did not try to say hand position changes the tools out put like most do.. Short video showing the truth ua-cam.com/video/mk95F0hHS3U/v-deo.htmlsi=vdS4hI08-O6Tjshk
Thanks! John you deserve more. This just shows how You Tube plays favorites by not recommending you more often.
I appreciate the support!! Yeah hopefully one day YT will recommend my channel more. Thanks!
Just bought the snap on model. Seeing as I work at a exotic dealership, I didn’t want anybody questioning my tools. But that Icon would have definitely been worth getting. Might pick one up for home. Great video man
Understandable seeing you're working at a high end dealer. For the price I don't think you can beat it, then you can leave the SO at work.
Thanks!
You're situation is how Snap On stays in business. I'd take almost any manufacturer over them. They make stuff that works as well as any, but it's 10x the cost.
In my opinion especially according to this video the icon is by far the best out of all of them because it is giving literally the exact same precision and torque and looks just as pretty as the other two in fact basically identical to the snap-on and has a better head 90 tooth anddd the price is literally pennies in comparison to both of the other two and it's a lifetime warranty. Unbelievable and awesome at the same time! Great video
Yep good value for the $
I'm VERY surprised that Icon has a better tooth count in the head AND produces, what seems like in your testing, BETTER grouped results all around, more or less. Very impressive test and I look forward to you testing digital torque wrenches, if you ever do! I also LOVE that CDI tester! Btw, you just earned another subscriber!
Yep I was shocked, just goes to show you don't have to spend $400 for a quality torque wrench.
The tester is expensive, but yeah its sweet, it has a special setting just for digital torque wrenches.
Tomorrows video will be dremel tools and then the following week will be professional digital torque wrenches. The new ICON vs Snap on.
Thanks!
Thanks dude! I'm actively shopping ICON, PI, CDI, and Snap On for the split beam...with the current HF coupon the ICON is down to $104.99. I think I know where I'm going tomorrow morning.
No Problem! glad you found it useful. Nice, that's a great price for the ICON!
I've been eying a 1/2" split beam for a while now. Finally jumped on the wagon yesterday when HF had 40% off all Icon wrenches & ratchets. For $84 OTD, I'm very happy and grateful. Can't beat that lifetime warranty too!
This guy deserves more views and subs than he has. Let's back this man
Thanks for the support!
Thank you for the video. helped me pick up an ICON for DIY vehicle projects.
No problem! Glad it helped!
ICON FOR THE WIN !
Yep hope we see a 3/8!
Really want to thank you for spending some big money in order to bring is some valuable and money saving information. I ended up buying the Tekton 32 tooth Split Beam torque wrench for $140 and also has a lifetime warranty 40-250 ft lb. & claims to have a + or - 2.5% but also is a 10° flex head angle which the Icon is 15° & a 90 tooth ratchet. Tekton also has a lifetime warranty on their torque wrenches. I personally go for the lower tooth count on Torque wrenches for 1/2 & 3/8”. I will say that the Olsa Digital Torque wrench seems like one hell of a deal especially with their lifetime warranty. Thank you once again for this video! Keep up the great work!
No problem! If the accuracy is correct it’s probably a good deal, knowing Tekton it’s probably correct. But hopefully next month I will test the Tekton split beam!
@@Tools-Tested is the Tekton split beam torque wrench review coming soon?
@@AlejandroMartinez-qb6jl video should be up the first half of this week just got it yesterday
I've used the Tekton warranty before. It's nice just snapping a picture and having one come in the mail. To be fair, SK has done the same thing for me before and not required me to send a tool back when I had an issue.
Glad i found this video, may need to pick up an icon. My dads got an old craftsman torque wrench thats probably never been returned to zero before putting back, who knows how accurate it is. Peace of mind would go a long way with a new one
Yeah you really cant beat the Icon for the $, glad to hear this video helped.
That's some serious commitment in your testing - appreciate it for sure!
Thanks!
Exactly the review I was looking for! Thanks
No problem! Glad it helped!
ok, 2nd good video in a row, that leads to a Sub! Thanks.
ICON Digital just ordered.
Thanks! It’s definitely worth the money.
There’s another guy testing these (well then icon) with a cheap Crapsman digital tester and he is saying it’s not calibrated correctly when you can see his table flex and obviously he isn’t using the quality of tester you are. Super obnoxious that people are listening to his bogus testing/results. Thanks for providing professional and accurate testing!
If it's the one I seen using a craftsman torque adapter in a vise it is hard to agree with the results. I know most people test torque wrenches with torque adapters because they are inexpensive compared to a proper test installment. Adapters have an accuracy anywhere from +-2-4% so that also has to be factored into the results. Compared to somthing that is designed to test torque wrenches, and has a accuracy of +-.5%
No problem!
@@Tools-Tested You are spot on. That guy is giving bad information so I called him out and let others know about your professional presentation here. I’m all about data and I recently bought a ICON split beam. It’s been great, I’m super impressed by their lineup. And I own numerous different tool brands. I don’t believe it unnecessarily spending money on a tool truck offering when it’s not needed. Keep up the good work👍🏻
Thanks. I was on the fence about the icon.
No problem! Yep it surprised me.
I appreciate this review!!!! Icon for the win!
Glad you found it helpful!
looks like ill pull the trigger on the icon myself. wish it was made in the U.S but the lifetime is hard to pass up and it matches my black red everything else!
Nice 👍, yeah that’s really the only drawback but it’s better then China
Awesome video! Really great information!
Thanks!
Awesome. Was just getting ready to buy the Precision wrench. Went and bought the 1/2 and 3/8 versions from Harbor Freight for same money.
Nice! Yeah can’t beat them for the $.
Thank you for the detailed test. I bought the Icon a few weeks ago and was curious about the accuracy, as I have no way to test myself. I only work on my own cars, so it’ll only be used a few times a year, but I really wanted a quality tool. I’m pleased to see that it stacked up well against the more expensive options. It looks sharp in my toolbox too!
No problem! Nice 👍, definitely a nice wrench with just as good accuracy.
It is a nice tool to own how do you like it so far??
Nicely done!👍
Thanks!
Wow, more detailed than this couldn’t be. This video is great!!!!!
Glad you liked it!
I would be interested in seeing 3 of the same wrenches just to see how different you get with calibration
Wish I could but thats a lot of $
@@Tools-Tested I think he means, try 3 of the Icons, test 3 new Icons + the used one, show deltas between them, then give away the 3 Icons or something. I don't think anyone wants you to shell out the money for 3 snapons. lol
@@giant81256 yeah that’s possible, either way still $$$$. I do hope to test the new snap SB at some point though.
Thanks for this very involved test. I was hoping to see a wider gap between the American wrenches than the Icon. That just goes to show how great these Icon tools have become. Keep crushing these videos bud, cheers!
No problem! Yep I am surprised how good the ICON did.
Awesome work. Thanks so much for the dedication to these videos I am so surprised you do not have more of a following. I am sure that will change with time! This is a blossoming channel in the making
Thank you very much! Yeah that's what others have said, hopefully it grows soon.
I think it would be better to say that the Icon is less expensive compared to the others instead of "cheaper." It sure appears from your testing and several other tool review channels I've seen on various Icon tools; they are high quality tools. Now we all know that Harbor Freight sells some inexpensive tools that really are cheap, meaning very low quality. I've really been watching the tools sold by Harbor Freight the past few years they are really increasing the number of high-quality tools they offer. While these higher quality tools are more expensive than their older less expensive and lower quality "cheap" made tools, they are far from the cost of Snap On or the other tool truck brands. Great video, you sure put the extra effort and expense into this video, you just earned another subscriber.
Thanks! Yeah the Icon line seems to be very good quality. Im sure its hurting Snap on, Mac and Matco. Hopefully they continue adding tools. Really wish they made wrench's below 8mm and a 3/8 split beam or 3/8 digital.
Thanks for the Sub!!
Great job on the video, Thank you! I'll be picking my ICON up on the first with a 25% 4th of July discount for inside track members ;)
Hey man what are you doing to the front of that John Deere starting @7:20!? Hahaha
Great video!
Lol voiding the warranty…….
Thanks!
You're producing some great content and information - thanks!
Thanks! No problem!
I've used tons of snap on split beams from years ago and today, rebuilt, and it doesn't matter if it's accurate or not, I value a longer tool, overall I am more confident in my tool if it's longer and more comfortable to use. Try using the short snap on to do 150ft lbs on an 8 lug truck.
Yep I really wish manufactures would make the wrenches longer, It would surely make using it a lot easier!
@@Tools-Tested i keep these in my car, so i appreciate them being short. i keep a pipe that i use as an extension when i need more torque. it's not an ideal solution but it's the only way it would fit in the toolbox
@@solomonshvyou’ll under torque using a cheat rod to extend engineered length.
Excellent testing my friend, so happy to have found your channel! :)
Thank you very much!
Fantastic video looking at these torque wrenches. Not much of a pattern to the results either. I would say the Icon and Precision look to have less deviation across the setting, which I would personally see as better behaviour.
Thanks!, Yeah I agree the numbers are really close.
Interesting as I can see the fluctuations change with the your change in speed, consistency of your movement. Slow steady seems more consistent. Effects more then I thought
Yep consistency is a big deal.
I have the SO split beam unit and it's served me well. But, these days more and move vehicles require a angle percentage finish besides the standard torque spec. I have the Icon unit and it's much easier to use than my Gearwrench unit. If you test the angle digital torque wrenches, I think you'll be surprised how much easier it is to use the Icon unit vs the Gearwrench.
Yep I tested the digital Icon and found it a lot more user friendly vs the Gearwrench.
Was on the fence of pulling the trigger with the Icon but will pick it up this weekend for mainly my car. I’ll be installing my motor mounts as it’s first test. 🤞🏽
Nice, can’t go wrong. That’s the one I ended up keeping. The icon split beam is my go to torque wrench.
I refuse to pay tool pimp prices for most stuff. No way I'm paying for snap-off torque wrenches when the warranty is only honored when or if the pimp shows up. Precision Instruments has always done me well. After seeing this the Ikon seemed pretty dang impressive!
Yep, precision is us made so it just goes to show how much margin snap on is making.
So you’re not a professional, cool. Professionals buying pro-level tools are buying the service- free calibrations, replacement when damaged, etc. ‘you get what you pay for’
Awesome video, just picked up the Icon. Feels like a solid instrument.
Thanks! Good choice! Hoping we see 3/8
Very cool thanks for fine details!
No problem!
this....guy is ....GOOD 🔧🔧🔧....YOU GOT A NEW SUBSCRIBER 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼.....this weekend im getting my new ICON....
Nice it’s a good torque wrench, thanks for the sub!
I'd love to see you test a real budget option. Like a $35 torque wrench
I did 1/2 budget ua-cam.com/video/O-47BM01peA/v-deo.html the results weren't good.
Man that precision instrument on the dyno looked awesome
If it does the job and can be recalibrated later on then icon is my choice
Used Precision Instruments torque wrenches at Discount Tire. Even with all the abuse we put them through, they remained accurate. I remeber having the teeth break inside of two or three in the eight months i worked there but they still held true to torque.
Yeah they are solid torque wrenches, snap on used to rebrand and sell them before they bought CDI.
@@Tools-Tested I have a snapon, it's very similar to the PI, although I don't suppose you can change all that much on an already fantastic design. And I love that I can leave it set to a torque and not worry about it going out of calibration unlike other types
@@lemonadegaming8865 yep, it’s great you can set it and leave it, I also find split beams quicker in adjustment as well.
Good video I just bought an Icon 3/8 drive from harbor freight for $106.00
Nice! Thanks!
Thanks this helped me make the choice- great review with science. Sub’d.
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for the sub!
Great comparison!
Thanks!
While my Snap On is being rebuilt, thinking about getting the Icon. Now I know to go ahead and get it. (Yes my Snap On is paid off, just took forever lol)
Fine tooth rachets just don't last very good for me. They have there place. But have a habit of using in high torque situations when I should go get a bigger toothed one for strength. Thumbs up on this one👍
Yeah they work great in tight places, but like you said if you really torque on them they don’t last as long compared to a lower tooth count.
Thanks!
This is what I tell my wife so I can buy more ratchets.
Lol well played sir!
I have a 24" Snap-On ratchet with the 36 tooth head. Proto 18" ratchet with 24 teeth. I have abused the living hell out of both in a HD truck shop and in my own shop, and never broken it. The gap is narrowing, but low tooth count has it's place. It's tough to beat for strength. You shouldn't be using a torque wrench for installing fasteners anyway; it's a finishing tool.
@hellsfavoritesaltyberserke4724and it has a lifetime warranty.
This Icon torque wrench for sale $90 right now 12/13/24 at HF. I probably buy it for DIY to replace my Tekon
That’s a good deal!
Just bought the Icon 1/2 inch Split Beam Torque Wrench. Couldn't pass up that 20% off coupon. Gonna use it for tire rotations on my car. Should pay for itself in a few uses.
How much was it with the coupon?
@@turbobuick33 $111.99
@carlosavila1155 Nice! yeah its an awesome TW for the $$$.
$112ish + tax
This is definitely an expensive test, thank you for doing it nonetheless. Taiwan is less of a deal breaker for me as China would be, and frankly, i'm not too upset about the idea of money going that country. They are in fact a sovereign nation, despite China's efforts to overtake them and claim their sovereignty doesn't exist. So some US dollars going into that country to help support them sounds like not a bad idea to me. I do love US stuff though for sure, gotta support our homeland and jobs for our local communities.
No problem a few subscribers were curious, and that got me wondering.
I agree, definitely try and stay away from anything made in China. Hopefully Taiwan can stay its own country.
I like to see US made but in this case it’s 2-3X more for the same accuracy.
@@Tools-Tested Since you have the tester, you might want to consider testing some other brands. I was checking some other videos and saw some folks testing Proto and SK torque wrenches, both American made. I'm strongly considering getting an SK torque wrench after seeing the test. It was Project Farm that did the test. Some of the tools my grandfather handed down to me are Proto and SK, so they've been around a hot minute.
@@musician445 I have lots of Proto and SK tools in my Snap-On tool box. (got it cheap) I'm a huge fan of US made industrial brands. Great tools without the tool truck markup, and I have rarely used the warranties, but at least with SK, they absolutely honor them and send me a new tool, no matter how old it is.
I'm with you brother. China is a deal breaker to me these days unless there's literally no other option. They aren't our friends, and if you care at all about the environment, supporting fair wages, worker rights, etc. you're a hypocrite for buying their junk. I spend a lot of time and hard earned money researching and supporting American made brands. Taiwan is definitely not bad stuff in the more affordable category. I have a few Taiwan made tools, and all are much better quality than the Chinese options. It's not that you can't find nice stuff made in China, but you have to pay them a whole lot more to build it nice. If you're gonna pay more, you may as well support the US, Canada, Germany, etc. and Taiwan for the budget stuff. I won't pay higher prices for shitty product. Especially looking at you Craftsman...
@@ChevyConQueso Agreed sir, i do what i can to research and find better quality stuff that isn't made with slave labor. It doesn't mean it won't stop happening, and it doesn't even make me a "better person", but i'd like to do what i can. Additionally, i want tools that last and won't give up on me when i'm in the middle of a project.
One thing to mention is precision instruments can cycle 60,000 times or more before needing calibration I don’t think icon or Snap On can claim that
That's a very valid point, I will have to see what the manual says for Icon and Snap-On
Huge point in it's favor. It's the all around bang-for-the-buck wrench in my opinion, and I'm about to buy 2 of them. I would rather support my countrymen and get a quality product at the same time, as it's not much extra for something I'll have for decades. That said, Icon is pretty good quality. For budget stuff I tend to point folks at Tekton, and they have a split beam now too. Curious how comparable it is to the Icon or if it's potentially made in the same facility. There are a lot of quality Taiwanese tools these days, and for a starting mechanic on a budget, they're hard to beat.
Really? Is it being used in a high volume aircraft shop? Just about the most absurd point I’ve heard all week. Close to the “only buy American” bs crap. Not all American products are good. Again good luck using a torque wrench 1,000 times in your life let alone 60,000…. The Taiwanese make some very high quality tools wether you accept the facts or not.
Yes - as tools slowly go out of calibration you won’t always notice it by feel. Cycles can add up quick…one tire rotation job can put 40 clicks on easy. PI does not go cheap and continually tests and fine-tunes their products to be top-notch for their customers. IMO the copies function well and look shiny but do not last as long.
@@larsonmk1 Your “opinion”. Means zero 👌🏻
Nice tools!
Great test
Glad you like it!
I just picked up the icon one today and then this video pops up in my suggestions
It's a nice split beam for the $.
Excellent review
Thanks!
Thanks a millions +++. The Icon of course.
No problem! glad you found it useful!
Tekton and olsa tools also have a split beam torque wrench.
So torn between the Icon SB or the Quinn digital adapter.
I would go with the SB, its faster and easier to use IMO.
Your video convinced me to buy the icon. Thank you.
Any way you can test the icon digital torque wrench and the snap-on and others?
Thanks!, Yes I have the digital icon and have been waiting on the Snap-on equivalent for about a month now... the backorder just keeps getting pushed back. I'm probably going to unbox the icon this week and then we will do a more in depth test when I get the Snap On.
Probably in a few months I will compare Gear wrench, Kobalt, Olsa etc etc.
Earned my sub with 1000 clicks. That’s 900 more than you would have needed for me though. I’m easy like that.
Lol, Thanks for the sub!
I believe with these style torque wrenches you don’t need to store them at 0 or their lowest setting for them to stay calibrated correct ?
Correct, you can store split beams at your desired toque without damaging the wrench.
Have a question : Which would you prefer the Quinn digital torque wrench or Icon Split Beam Torque Wrench?
IMO I prefer split beam, it’s faster and easier to adjust and you don’t have to deal with batteries.
@@Tools-Tested thanks man!!!
90 tooth, lifetime warranty and accurate. You made the decision easy for a home workshop.
Glad this video helped!
@@Tools-Tested It did and I subscribed after watching a couple more.
No nonsense content that performs real-world testing to evaluate tools is a rare find.
@@yorkiepit Thanks for the sub! Yeah I try and keep it straight to the point and fair.
How’s the Icon wrench holding up now? I got a precision instruments split beam wrench and it reads 10 ftlbs low straight out of the box…
It's been good, I cant complain. I have retested it multiple time over the past year and its held accuracy.
Yeah I tested a 3/8 precision which was low right out of the box brand new.
Also Icon now has a 3/8 version so it makes for a nice set.
Superb video, though I'm not in the US and can't find ICON here. PI is sold at a price higher than Stahlwille, which looks to be a more refined product. I'm confident that these split beam TWs are all more than enough solid for home use.
Thanks!, yeah I can imagine seeing the PI is made in the USA. Just looked up the Stahlwille, interesting design. Yeah I think the Icon is the best value for DIY and even Pro’s by the results.
Just so you know, you have to make sure your hand is pulling on the torque wrench in the exact same spot of the handle every single time or the results will be off... It also will change when you use both hands for leverage instead of one!
On the snap on the phone in one year on the torquing mechanism it's Lifetime on the head
Digging the Atari 2600 soundtrack courtesy of the Snap-On torque gauge
Torking independent suspension components after doing alignments and replacing parts on cars like Teslas or BMWs would really help to have that 90 tooth head. I think I’m going to have to get some new torque wrenches.
Yeah I like the 90 tooth head, Snap on just released an updated version which is 80. Seems most manufactures are moving in that direction.
Is icon or Tekton split beam torque wrench better? Which one is more advantageous to get
Really depends on which you can get a better price on in my book, also Tekton offers a 3/8 version.
@@Tools-TestedI need to get a 1/2 drive torque wrench asap and I need it got work at the shop I work at. We have a Matco guy but I don’t wanna spend 400 dollars on a torque wrench. Will the icon be good for work?
I have a question about torquing lug nuts is it better to lift or to push when torquing lug nuts
It would be better to lift instead of push. But I wouldn't worry about it unless you are using a digital torque wrench.
I'm using a split beam
Also do you prefer torque wrench or torque stick
@@davidblankenship2686 I have always used a split beam torque wrench for lug nuts. I know using toque sticks is common but I just don’t trust them lol…
Agreed
Nice video! What did you have the CDI DTC set on (peak, 1st peak or trace?)
Thanks! for the click style, it is set in 1st peak.
@@Tools-Tested Thanks for the reply, great channel! I have the CDI 2503-f-DTC. I’m using it to check 10 torque wrenches. Surprisingly the Powerbuilt deflecting beam is on top with the Olsa and Precision instruments split beams close behind. Will post video next week. I did post a review of the Powerbuilt. Check it out! Thanks!
@@johnnylinoleum Thanks! Seen the powerbuilt, definitely a interesting looking wrench.
I will check the video out!
Thanks for all of your detailed tests! Would you go with the Precision Instruments or the Tekton for doing head studs torqued to 150ft lbs?
I would be confident in either one, but if you don’t mind spending a little more I would go with the Precision because of it being made in USA. Also precision was making them for snap on until snap on bought CDI.
Dang, and I was worried about overspending on the $50 husky 50-250 ft lbs needed for the ls crank bolt. These are in a higher league and I don’t use them for my profession so my uses are different. I wish I was man enough to overspend and get a digital torque wrench
The digital ones are nice but really expensive. I plan on testing some, I haven’t owned one. But this video shows you don’t need to spend 4x the money for the same accuracy.
Overspending? Higher league? Are you serious? Two years ago I purchased Sturtevant Richmont DTC-75 electronic torque wrench for the 1000 US Dollars.
Four years ago I purchased two Jetco Superduty REVO electronic torque wrenches, a smaller one
25 - 250 Inch Pounds (2.08 Foot Pounds - 20.8 Foot Pounds) and a bigger torque wrench 15 - 150 Foot Pounds for 500 US Dollars, each.
Back in the late 1990s, I purchased three torque wrenches micrometre clicker types made by Proto. The little one is good for 40 - 200 Inch Pounds (3.3 - 16.6 Foot Pounds), the next one is good for 16.6 - 83.3 Foot Pounds and a big one is good for 50 - 250 Foot Pounds. I paid for each one roughly between 200 - 400 Canadian Dollars. It was a lot of money for me back then but I don't regret it. Good stuff like Proto stuff was made for life if you take care of it.
I'm no mechanic and I never made one penny with my tools but I saved thousands of dollars working on my cars.
@@MrCROBosanceros I was born with two Gunertight elbows 😝
@@MrCROBosanceros Same here. Buying quality tools actually saves time and money for long term. If one buys cheap one at beginning, it might end up spending more later. I just ordered the same Snap-On torque wrench today, as I found my Proto J6125F Dial Torque Wrench is not very easy to use. I enjoyed repairing my cars, it's not just saving money, but it's a passion - using some fine tools working on well designed/built cars from BMW or Volvo, and bring the car condition to its original operating condition as it was new is fun to me.
Dang it someone just recently listed the 1/2 certain of the Armstrong torque tested(probably made by cdi as well) for $900 on eBay, would have saved you a grand but what can you do... What are you going to do with the tester now that you've already made the video?
Don’t worry I didn’t pay msrp for it lol, it was 1300 new.
But I plan to use it in future videos
Ya know this is a good test. I bet those numbers would be better if you pulled instead of pushing. Think of a truck pulling something what is being used? Torque, that's how I remember
Maybe that should be your next video
Yeah I have been thinking about that. I need to find a old lathe or heavy duty table then I could attach a hand crank to keep the force consistent much like the tool holder on a lathe.
That would be smart
But fr tho you should do a video of the difference between pushing and pulling tho. That does matter because I have seen the difference when I was in college. At some points it was a 5 to 8 lb difference. Might not matter to much when it comes to a half inch torque wrench but it might when it comes to inch lbs
@@robertbrisk9382 it's much easier to push on a torque wrench.. Especially when you're doing something up to 1000ftlbs trust me your back will thank you
If only they had an Icon 1/4” in/lb torque wrench.
dang this guy really did 3,000 tests. Going to harbor freight now haha
Yes sir, yeah u really can’t beat the icon for the price.
Nice repetition testing, but I'm wondering: who is the toolmaker equivalent of Toyota/Honda? I mean, which brand is tops in terms of long-term quality and reliability, but still affordable? I've been wondering about getting a Japanese torque wrench. For certain parts, I really don't want the torque setting to unexpectedly go wrong.
Thanks! I would say the best bet would be precision instruments if your worried about longevity. They came up with the split beam design and Snap-on still sells them with there name on it in the older design. It’s been the go to in shops for years. Now most techs have digital ones but it’s hard to say how long they last.
Personally I would stay away from the coil spring style torque wrench’s. (Round handles)
@@Tools-Tested Micrometer wrenches are fine and an old standby, but the cheap ones can lose calibration pretty quick if the torque block moves out of alignment, or you loosen the spring to the point that there's no tension on it at all, which can let things move. You wanna return them to the lowest setting, not loosen them up. Design is super important here and all are definitely not equal. I use Sturtevant Richmonts for my lower torque click type units. The flat tube units are the way to go.
@@ChevyConQueso Exactly! The problem is that 99 % of the people (including UA-camrs) don't have a clue what is Sturtevant Richmont. If Snap-on torque wrenches are "Rolex" than Sturtevant Richmont is Vacheron Constantin. Yes, flat tube design is important like on my old Proto micrometre type torque wrenches.
I do more lb in vs lb ft. Do you have a test on these? I haven’t seen one.
I haven't yet, trying to work up the courage to drop another almost 2K (MSRP for 3K) on another tester. The one I have is only good for 25-250ft-lbs
I could get away with mid to the high range on most 3/8 but not the lower end.
I hope to have all the testers I need to do 1/4-3/4 by the end of this year.
You convinced me, I am going to harbor freight!
Yeah its a quality wrench for the money.
Any plans to test the Tekton 1/2 Split Beam?
Not at the moment, maybe in a few months I could.
But they do claim better accuracy. Knowing Tekton it’s probably a quality wrench.
I just purchased the icon a few days ago on sale for $106 and seems like I got a great deal thanks for the video you got my sub 👍
Nice!, Yeah I think its the best value out there for a split beam, now they just need to make it also in 3/8!
Thanks for the sub!
EXCELLENT work my friend!!!!
VERY WELL DONE!!!!!
Now "Subbed" BTW.
Thanks!
Good comparison...
Thanks!
This will really get the Snap-on fan boys fired up lol. They all see the high price tag so it has to be the best in the world. This just proved that you don't have to spend the big money to get something decent.
Yep exactly lol, don’t always have to spend big money for quality.
Dude, they don’t even care about that. They’re proud to blow all their money and get into debt for snap on, even if they just watched a video that shows Icon would give them the same results for $400 less. It’s all about image for them. They’re sheep. Dude just told them straight up, it costs a fraction of the price of snap on, it has a lifetime warranty and if it break or something is wrong, you just walk into the store and get a new one for free. They still don’t care. Guess they need those bragging right to get them through their day. 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Dude, they don’t even care about that. They’re proud to blow all their money and get into debt for snap on, even if they just watched a video that shows Icon would give them the same results for $400 less. It’s all about image for them. They’re sheep. Dude just told them straight up, it costs a fraction of the price of snap on, it has a lifetime warranty and if it break or something is wrong, you just walk into the store and get a new one for free. They still don’t care. Guess they need those bragging right to get them through their day. 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@Omardottcom because they are insecure in their manhood, little peewee lol
well presented
Thanks!
Icon for the win
I don't get why people want a 90 tooth for a torque wrench but ok
ICON 100%
Yep can’t beat the value
Here after watching this video at automotive class
Bang for the buck wins in this video
Yep its been a good torque wrench.
How accurate would you say the icon is at 50-150lbs ??? 50lb for injector bolts and 100lb for jake brakes ???
From my testing the icon is within the 4% accuracy rating for the full range 50-250.
For higher accuracy you might look at the 3/8 split beam tekton, that would give you 20-100 @ 2.5% accuracy.
I hope to test the Tekton next month
@@Tools-Tested well I done did I got me one today
All are very close 🤔 I guess I may actually like the icon more 😳 a bit more the teeth and the price is much better
Problem with the Icon is that it's not giving American's jobs like the PI and Snap-on is.
I agree, but most cant justify the money for a PI or Snap-on. It's sad but it's the truth these day because of poor policy making and corporate greed.
Precision instruments equally as good and made in the USA. That’s where my dollars are going.
I love to see a good Snap-On L
All those companies should refund you for these equipment especially the $2K tester.
Yeah I wish, my tax lady questions why I keep throwing money at this channel year after year lol.
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